=== chriadam_ is now known as chriadam [00:22] hello guys [00:22] is ubuntu for mako finished? [00:23] <[|HuGO|]> when the operating system will be ready? [00:34] when it's ready [00:49] hi everyone; a recent changelog mentions preliminary GPRS working, but I couldn't figure out how to activate it, since there's nothing on the UI; should I manually install and run something like wvdial? === achiang` is now known as achiang [00:57] solstag: you have to use the terminal to activate it currently, the UI isn't there yet [00:57] http://theravingrick.blogspot.ro/2013/06/dog-fooding-success-sort-of.html [00:57] rickspencer3, nice! [01:08] mhall119: Hm right, I was imagining that would be the case, but can nmcli alone be used to configure a new connection? I couldn't figure out how. [01:17] solstag: I think so, but I don't have a phone [01:17] rickspencer3 got it working somehow [01:17] wuh? huh? [01:17] solstag, I just followed rsalveti's instructions [01:18] solstag is trying to get 3g working [01:18] mhall119, yeah, I got the back scroll [01:18] don't know what to say, the instructions "just worked" for me [01:19] rickspencer3: hey, cool, but where are those instructions? [01:19] oh [01:19] well, let me get those for you [01:20] give me a moment to track them down [01:20] =D [01:21] solstag, https://plus.google.com/100264483712374857174/posts/3o1tjYo9Ghx [01:21] there is a GUI coming, but for now, it's pretty old school === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [01:24] rickspencer3: awesome, thanks, this makes sense it's probably gonna work, I'll just take the time to update the image first ;) thanks guys! (mhall119) [01:26] solstag, bon chance, and have fun :) [01:26] it's way easier to use the phone if the terminal is installed [01:26] merci [01:26] I think it may be in today's image by default [01:26] yeah I was just thinking that haha [01:26] it seems to be by the changelog [01:26] nice [01:27] solstag, after you get cellular data working, you may want to set up facebook and twitter integration: [01:27] http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-social-phone.html [01:27] rickspencer3: yeah, terminal landed by default starting in image 152 [01:28] oops, dinner time [01:29] night all [01:32] hi [01:32] anyone herre === _salem is now known as salem_ [03:17] I can't install Ubuntu Touch Image to my Nexus 4. No response after "< waiting for device >" is shown in command line. [03:17] Anybody help me? [03:20] usb debugging on? [03:20] installed yer adb drivers? [03:20] etc. [03:22] Flashing recovery to /home/lipi/Downloads/phablet-flash/153/raring-preinstalled-recovery-armel+mako.img < waiting for device > [03:23] try using sudo [03:23] I have already used this command 'sudo phablet-flash -d mako -b'. [03:24] Lipi: The first question would be “does "adb shell"” connect to the device? [03:25] Absolutely. So my phone is in bootloader state now. [03:26] But, In bootloader state, 'adb devices' command cannot see my phone. [03:28] Lipi: sudo adb kill-server; sudo adb start-server [03:28] then try adb devices again === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [03:29] Lipi, in bootloader state the command is fastboot devices [03:30] Oh, got it. Thanks. [03:30] Let me check 'fastboot devices'. [03:36] Oh, Downloading is working now... Thanks mhall119, snwh, Namidairo, snwh, RAOF. [03:42] I broke a new Nexus 10 like this, but I can't get pass the login screen [03:51] pretty hard to brick a nexus device === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === salem_ is now known as _salem [06:31] good morning === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|ofp === mmrazik|ofp is now known as mmrazik === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [09:19] is something badly bad with touch-preview images on the Nexus 7 currently? Most applications don't launch (just get a white screen) and the OSK doesn't come up either... [09:23] Laney, which one did you download ? [09:23] (from where) [09:24] I just phablet-flashed to 154 [09:26] hm [09:26] i wonder if sergio broke the raring builds, better roll back to the last milestone then [09:27] there is a monthly-05 one [09:27] ogra: alright, I'll try that [09:27] 12.4MB/s... ♥ cdimage [09:27] wow, if i remove the fstab and issue a reboot, the system shuts down [09:28] as soon as i put the fstab back it reboots as requested [09:28] intresting behavior [09:33] Hello everyone! I'm trying to merge changes made by popey to the trunk branch in the launchpad... how can I do it? Do I need to merge locally and then commit the changes to trunk? [09:35] do you have permission to push to that branch ? else push to your own branch, go to the launchpad UI for it and propose it for merging [09:37] ogra, sorry i missed your message... I have the permission the project is mine: https://launchpad.net/minesweeper-touch [09:38] well, then commit locally and do a bzr push to the branch [09:39] Ok... Now i try... [09:42] ah yes, monthly seems to be better === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:45] ogra, It gives me an error message... Starting from the I branch the trunk from the launchpad (just to be sure its correct) i merge the branch on my local copy (bzr branch and so on) but when i commit the changes (again locally) it tells me bzr: ERROR: Selected-file commit of merges is not supported yet: files Alan Pope 2013-05-31 add packaging, debian, minesweeper.desktop, minesweeper.png [09:45] how do you try to commit ? [09:47] I use the commit command in QtCreator as always done, is it correct? [09:48] hmm, should be [09:49] better wait for someone from the sdk team though, i never used it [09:49] i made a try... Using bzr status it tells me: pending merge tips: (use -v to see all merge revisions) Alan Pope 2013-05-31 add packaging [09:50] Ok... Thank you anyway... I will try this -v option to see how it works and I will wait... [09:58] ogra, Done!... it was only necessary a --pull in the merge command!... [09:58] ah, cool [10:30] any idea when the ubuntu will be available in europe? [10:30] any idea when the ubuntu phone will be available in europe? === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:47] sigh, i dont get it [11:47] starting ofono manually gets it working fine [11:47] starting it automatically doesnt [11:47] ogra: morning [11:47] morning === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [11:55] hmm on saucy adb shell now goes directly to chroot? how do I pass on normal android commands now? [11:59] Mirv, which saucy image is that ? [12:00] (where did you get it from) [12:00] ogra: old one, dist-upgraded [12:00] ah, you might not want to do that [12:01] out of general curiosity: "why?", but yes I should probably try a fresher rootfs [12:01] that will get you the flipped container [12:01] but only half of it [12:02] serguiens is already working on an unflipped image that phablet-flash will install, until the flipped image is ready [12:02] ok :) and I guess I need to go the manual route for updating since phablet-flash doesn't recognize the device since the adb commands don't work.. [12:02] I mean, getprop etc [12:02] yeah [12:02] does the rest work ? [12:02] if so: [12:03] ogra: ubuntu side "works", lost GUI though, but I can ssh in [12:03] ah, well, i doubt you will get it working easily [12:03] better re-flash with the last raring milestone [12:06] I'd want to test saucy precisely, but is it currently slightly harder than it was two-three weeks ago? [12:07] Mirv, we are flipping the container model (meaning we rework the whole plumbing layer) [12:07] in the archive ... [12:07] serguiens works on an unflipped image that just has updated packages [12:07] as interim [12:07] ok, then I better wait before I ask others to test new packages on saucy devices as well ;) [12:09] good information anyway, thanks, waiting for sergiusens' temporary solution to arrive [12:09] i'm just regenerating a flipped image ... many things already work there :) [12:09] no network, no calls and no sound yet though [12:10] it was quite fine for testing GUI with a network forwarded over USB [12:10] nice that flipped works as well [12:11] is there a blog post already explaining the whole flipping thing to the masses? :) [12:11] not yet [12:11] i'll write one once the image is actually a bit more usable [12:11] yeah, maybe best after it can be shown that it works [12:11] right [12:12] i.e. waiting on a fix from ricmm ... to not get a white screen if you start apps [12:12] and NM [12:12] once these two are there i'll blog :) [12:16] will that new ubuntu-mobile support those hundreds of thouthands apps on the market ? [12:16] or with it you got better alternative, FOSS software ? [12:16] all those GTK and QT driven programms will work in it ? [12:18] no [12:19] ubuntu touch currently only supports QML, C++ and HTML5 apps [12:19] no Gtk, no X11 based apps [12:21] (and no android apps for now) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === greyback is now known as greyback|food [12:56] <[SLB]> if i'm not mistaken, in the manual installation, the website talks about 2 steps, [12:56] <[SLB]> first step deploys an armel- image [12:57] <[SLB]> and second step deploys the phablet-armhf image [12:57] <[SLB]> in the images repository though i see more than 2 kind of images per device, plus generic images [12:58] <[SLB]> armel-, boot-armel+, phablet-armhf, recovery-armel- and system-armel- [12:59] <[SLB]> are the other images optional beyond the 2 steps described above? === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [13:06] bfiller: hey === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:06] bfiller: i cant find monthly agile plan of high level goals in your apps doc [13:06] from oakland [13:06] maybe we can randomly spread the apps across the month from june to september? :) [13:07] maybe there are intermediate steps for each app? like a "feature complete release" === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === Zic is now known as Guest97647 === mesq_ is now known as mesq === jhodapp_ is now known as jhodapp [13:18] good news/bad news from the saucy migration front? [13:20] asac, ofono runs if i start it manually [13:21] but i seem to have either upstart or dbus issues with auto starting [13:21] still debugging [13:21] ogra: everything else is great? [13:21] no [13:21] lol [13:21] we still need NM, pulse and the platform api fixed [13:21] you gave me the impression that thats the case :) [13:22] ok, but everyting being worked on? or is there anything not covered at all? [13:23] Kaleo, hey, what's the best channel to ask about qt question and about ubuntu-sdk questions? === schwann is now known as gusch [13:27] asac, well, the pulse merge i'm not sure about ... cyphermox works on NM, i'm looking into ofono and ricmm has a fix for the platform api but i'm not sure we can upload it since it might break the unflipped images [13:28] having two incompatible images is a huge pain in the butt [13:28] especially if it comes to packages that are in both and need completely different patching [13:28] its a challenge [13:28] :) [13:28] good challenge [13:29] it means to add two hackish patches now and having a lot of extra work later to clean up that mess [13:29] instead of doing it right right now [13:29] but thats how that concept works .. [13:29] yes [13:29] thats the idea [13:29] such a waste [13:30] i thougth i explained the overall cost assessment [13:30] and that its a net win [13:30] :) === sil2100__ is now known as sil2100 [13:30] especially in the light that what we do now for flipped might totally not work anymore after steve and stephane moved everything to their wird partitioning ideas [13:30] so we have to do everyhthing three times in the end [13:31] in three different ways [13:31] sounds good [13:31] :P [13:31] its a bit painful [13:31] because... it was not thought of before [13:31] i understand your idea ... i just dont think we'll be done by oct this way [13:32] maybe. but then it doesnt help if you are done, but the rest of our army of engineers isnt on saucy :) [13:32] heh === greyback|food is now known as greyback [13:33] well, currently our "army" is split into three parts ... one part working still on raring fixes, one part working on unflipped saucy and one on flipped ... and the work of the latter might have to be re-done completely from scratch due to the re-partitioning plans [13:34] the majority of people works on saucy [13:34] thats not the issue anymore [13:34] i slowly suspect that the flipped image is ready before the unflipped though [13:37] * ogra shakes his fist at upstart [13:37] Do what i want, damend !! === mardy_ is now known as mardy [13:52] Saviq, these are the warnings/errors I get from run_on_device http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5738800 [13:56] MacSlow, yeah, that means that for some reason dbus didn't start [13:56] MacSlow, and dies all the time, too [13:57] MacSlow, feels like a something-got-broken-on-the-device issue [13:57] MacSlow, did you try flashing recently? [13:57] Saviq, I tried that two days ago, but it always failed... didn't bother much and kept on working on the backend-integration === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [13:58] Saviq, since it boots normally still, I assumed nothing got broken [13:59] MacSlow, do you have branches for me? [13:59] MacSlow, let's just make sure you're not fighting with something that's not your issue [13:59] Saviq, yeah... the one from the email yesterday... [13:59] <[SLB]> how many images do i need to get from this link for manual installation? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ the guide talks about 2 steps, considering only raring-preinstalled-armel+.zip and raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip [13:59] Saviq, lp:~macslow/unity/phablet-integrate-notification-backend [14:00] MacSlow, yup, gimme a moment [14:00] Saviq, sure... thanks [14:01] Calendar team meeting starting in #ubuntu-touch-meeting [14:03] Saviq, btw.. the problem I've here with flashing to the latest image is that the device_flashdaily script just opens up a new terminal-window briefly and that's closed within a second again... can't make out any error/warning being printed in that window [14:03] not sure what's wrong there [14:03] MacSlow, device_flashdaily? [14:04] Saviq, that's the script which is called by QtCreator [14:04] MacSlow, phablet-flash is the command to use [14:04] MacSlow, it might be out of sync [14:04] MacSlow, I just got into a meeting, your branch will have to wait [14:04] Saviq, ok [14:05] Saviq, I'll look into this flashing-issue [14:08] rsalveti, hey there... you got an idea what to look into if "phablet-flash" reports "Latest build detection not supported... bailing" [14:08] rsalveti, should I just manually state which build I want to have installed? [14:09] MacSlow, you're on raring still? [14:09] MacSlow, ppa:phablet-team/tools [14:10] Saviq, yes... wanted to wait with updating to saucy until I've the backend-integration sorted out/merged [14:10] MacSlow, get the PPA [14:10] MacSlow, it's got updated phablet-* scripts [14:10] stgraber, hey, so after you made bash work with adbd ... couldnt you also make it use more than 80x24 ? [14:12] :) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:22] awe_, why is the group id set to android_input? curious [14:23] the group handling will be reworked completely [14:24] ogra: had to keep it at least vaguely painful ;) [14:25] stgraber, heh, i cant remember when i typed "reset" that often in the past [14:25] ogra, so by the time I know it wont matter [14:27] pmcgowan, yeah, it might be gone in favour of a shim that just mimics the groups for executing processes [14:27] there is a bug open for that which i cant find atm [14:27] GRRR [14:28] * ogra shakes his fist against upstart for the tenth time today [14:28] it *never* does what i think it does [14:29] and reboots are sooooo slow [14:29] we should just call "sync, umount, poweroff" instead of doing a full shutdown [14:31] * ogra wants a "start on what-i-think" upstart bridge ! [14:34] pmcgowan, otp === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:40] ogra: that dbus thing you found with powerd is causing problems, so thanks for finding it [14:40] ogra: having it the old way was cauing problems i mean [14:40] yeah [14:41] you might also want: [14:41] stop on runlevel [06] [14:41] to kill it on shutdown [14:42] kalikiana: u1db-qt packages are still failing to build, even on a PPA with physical ARM hardware [14:45] how did you get a PPA that only builds on physical arm hardware? [14:47] mhall119, same segfault in qmlplugindump? [14:47] Hi guys [14:47] renato__: ping [14:48] Since I have a question regarding address-book-service [14:48] kalikiana: looks like it [14:50] mhall119, I wonder is this the only package where that happens? [14:50] anything with a c++ plugin must be running qmlplugindump === salem_ is now known as _salem [14:53] Saviq, I think it works... been calling and texting myself on the Nexus... the new notifications show up [14:54] MacSlow, awesome! [14:54] Saviq, just no idea why the all the python-examples still dont't work ("gtk+ missing defined displays") [14:55] not sure === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:57] bfiller: hi [14:59] sil2100: hi [14:59] kalikiana: it's the only package in that PPA currently failing at all: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa/+packages [15:00] bfiller: I know it's probably more of a question to renato__, but I wanted to talk about the naming of the address-book-service project [15:01] bfiller: since there's lp:address-book-service, but the source package name inside is called galera-contact-service [15:01] sil2100: sure, what's the issue? [15:01] bfiller: I think we need to decide on one of those and rename the other [15:01] bfiller: it's just the 'source package name' so it doesn't matter to other applications [15:02] But generally the branch and lp-project name should be the same as the source package name [15:02] bfiller: what do you think? Which name fits better? [15:02] mhall119, that is not the qmlplugindump segfault, though. this is docs and that'S why x86 also fails. this should work again once the fixed ui-toolkit-doc is there - it's already fixed in trunk [15:02] sil2100: makes sense, think we should use address-book-service for both [15:02] renato__: ^^^ [15:05] mhall119, I talked about it with fginther see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1187006 [15:05] Launchpad bug 1187006 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "No HTML in ubuntu-ui-toolkit-doc" [Undecided,New] [15:06] is there a known issue with apt on build 154? [15:07] mhall119, 0.1.46daily13.05.31ubuntu.unity.nextbzr527raring0 is behind r533 which has the fix [15:08] im trying to install openssh on a newly flashed nexus4 and all i get is http://slexy.org/view/s21JDhUWb5 [15:27] FunkyPenguin, looks like you aren't on the network [15:28] slangasek, init: Error while reading from descriptor: Bad file descriptor [15:29] slangasek, thats the line that got me suspicious ... and in the detailed log it actually prints the "cannot open /proc/self/fd/9" line before each job when doing a detailed log [15:29] i wonder if our kernel is missing anything here [15:30] SIGNALFD is set though ... [15:30] i dont know of any other kernel option upstart needs [15:36] pmcgowan: there are all sorts of permission issues with the android stuff [15:37] so we had to add the phablet user into a bunch of android specific groups [15:37] we're planning on cleaning that up soon [15:37] kenvandine: ah, that could be it. is there wpa2 enterprise support for wifi? [15:37] rsalvetithanks was mainlu just curious [15:37] seb128: 15:23 < seb128> Kaleo, hey, what's the best channel to ask about qt question and about ubuntu-sdk questions? [15:37] seb128: #ubuntu-app-dev [15:38] Kaleo, thanks [15:38] seb128: #ubuntu-app-devel [15:38] sorry [15:38] Kaleo, I'm alon... thanks [15:38] Saviq, sadly a bit blurry... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQMIf1cOyHc [15:39] FunkyPenguin, no idea :) [15:39] ricmm rsalveti: nitpick in the platform-api: android/include/private/application/ui/clipboard.h is not listed as GPL (should it be LGPL?) [15:40] <[SLB]> i have installed the 2 zip files with twrp on my nexus 4, but after the boot process it just stays black. cleared cache and dalvik already. any other thing i should do? [15:40] hmm, wireless connection seems to be a bit on the "flakey" side [15:41] didrocks: hm, should be lgpl [15:41] rsalveti: mind changing that? [15:41] rsalveti: not a blocker, continuing looking at it for pre-MIRing [15:42] (not a blocker as long as it's going to be fixed ;)) [15:42] didrocks: let me change [15:43] slangasek, yeah, it would be an additional rules file that has a list of devices at the top and just "goto_end" for all of them [15:43] i dont really like the idea of diversions :) [15:44] but i guess it will do as interim [15:44] ogra: as I said, the 'goto_end' only works within a *single* udev rules file [15:44] it doesn't let you skip rules from a *different* udev rules file, which is where we have the problem curretnly [15:44] oh, indeed [15:44] hmm [15:46] udev should just grow an upstartish .override mechanism :P [15:48] didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/platform-api/fixing_clipboard_h_license/+merge/167795 [15:48] ricmm: mind reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~ricmm/platform-api/refactor-headers-new-cleanup/+merge/165467 ? [15:48] rsalveti: approved [15:49] ricmm: sorry, wrong link [15:49] ricmm: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/android-audiosystem/enabling-build-i386/+merge/167671 [15:49] didrocks: thanks [15:49] yw ;) [15:52] Hey any idea where I can get some info on instalation of ubuntu on tablets other than nexus. well i have a digix sophix 8 i have baked some roms on phones but im kinda new at this. [15:52] there is a porting guide, see the channel topic [15:52] and there is the devices wikipage ... [15:53] !devices | kingivvi [15:53] kingivvi: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [15:53] oh nice thanks for the info [15:53] ogra: so, I can have lxc-android-config divert both firmware.rules and persistent_v4l.rules right now, and that fixes mako immediately; or I can spend some time hacking to understand why *upstart* is breaking with udevtrigger in a wedged state, which will take me another day or two to sort out, but then we don't have to disable persistent_v4l.rules unnecessarily. What do you think we should do here? [15:54] i got the thing to learn python 3 on android has no real solutions i found so far for that. [15:54] slangasek, go for it [15:54] (teh diversion) [15:54] i think the upstart issue is actually serious [15:55] yes, I'll look at that either way [15:55] the question was just whether we care about an expedient fix for mako [15:56] e do, but not right now i'd say [15:56] *we [15:56] eh, but you just told me to go for it ;) [15:56] well, i read fix as "proper fix" [15:56] ah no, I said "expedient fix" [15:56] i dont conside a diversion proper :) [15:57] that's the opposite of a proper fix ;) [15:57] oh, k [15:57] yes, add the diversion now so we have a quick fix [15:57] so it seems nemo-keyboard isn't installed by default (at least in touch-preview) but it should be [15:57] otherwise you get no OSK ... pretty bad [15:57] getting mako and grouper to work is essential to get the rest of the team to work with the flipped images [15:58] i have an idea about grouper but need to test that later tonight [15:59] (not all plymouth upstart jobs are set to manual, i suspect a remaining one still tries to start plymouth , tegra is always behaving bad with that) [16:01] rsalveti: ok, the code looks good, for NEW and main for platform-api in its current state [16:02] rsalveti: one more than nitpick: debian/copyright as a pattern of android/hybris/test_* [16:02] it doesn't match android/hybris/test.cpp :p [16:02] nitpicker :P [16:02] ogra: seb128 found that one TBH, I didn't :p [16:03] clearly a release blocker :p [16:03] definitely ! [16:03] calling me picky? [16:03] seb128: never ever! [16:03] better than calling you nitty :) [16:04] ahah [16:04] what else would you expect from germans? [16:04] yeah :) [16:04] crazy people ... these germans [16:06] so how are the default packages for the raring images installed? it doesn't appear to be the germinate metapackage === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === kdub_ is now known as kdub [16:15] I love the weather app on the phone much kudos to whoever wrote it [16:20] ogra, rsalveti: I am doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Flashing_the_device but having dependency issues. I heard one of you may be able to help :) [16:21] phablet-tools : Depends: python-configobj but it is not installable [16:21] Depends: python-requests but it is not installable [16:22] android-tools-adb and android-tools-fastboot went through fine [16:23] silbs, what release is that ? raring or saucy [16:23] ogra: actually, I am still quantal. Is that the issue? [16:24] did you enable the PPA ? [16:24] ogra: yes, w/ add-apt-repository [16:24] oh, indeed you did, quantal needs it for phablet-tools [16:24] hmm [16:26] hey are updates happening yet for touch or is it still on the same version as originally released [16:26] ? [16:26] Orii, there are daily buids [16:26] *builds [16:27] phablet-flash automatically gets you the latest [16:27] oh sweet :) [16:28] silbs: let me check, but we might not have the latest for quantal [16:28] how are things coming along? i mean i love android.....but ubuntu touch is just epic [16:28] silbs, hmm, i see no reason why python-configobj wouldnt be found [16:28] it is in the normal archive [16:29] hm, it's indeed published for quantal here [16:29] same goes for python-requests [16:29] both should even be in main [16:29] let me try to install it in a chroot [16:29] thats very weird [16:30] silbs, you didnt by chance play with your software-sources and disabled main ? :) [16:31] ogra: silbs: hm, installed just fine in a clean quantal chroot + ppa [16:31] ogra: I can safely say that I haven't disabled main ;) [16:31] rsalveti: that's weird [16:31] yeah [16:31] rsalveti: reviewing [16:33] silbs, is there any proxy in line between you and the archive ? [16:33] brb [16:33] ogra: shouldn't be. I'm in London office, on our own wired network [16:33] both are pretty standard packages and there doesnt seem to be any versioned dependency [16:33] everything else is up to date as well [16:34] so there is technically no reason you shouldnt be able to install them [16:35] must be something about my system. I have installed test kernels in the past, but am now on the latest released one. But maybe something during that period got messed up [16:35] rsalveti: did you write these atomic funcs? [16:37] i cant find any updates for either of these packages, they must be the standard ones that were recent at release time [16:38] so yeah, smells a bit like there is something wonky with your sources.list (or sources.list.d files) [16:39] silbs, does an apt-get update on cmdline show any issues ? [16:40] ogra: nope [16:40] vrey strange [16:40] *very too [16:40] ogra, rsalveti: I've got to move on to something else now - will try again later or tomorrow. Thanks for help anyway [16:41] let me know how it goes ... [16:42] rsalveti, what did you mean by 'now we need to implement support for mir' in hybris (sorry to jump channels) [16:43] ogra: rsalveti: could she be having a conflict with someone else installed that is preventing those packages from being installable/ [16:43]