[00:11] <rick_h__> I broke scrolling so I suck award of the day goes to http://breather.com/
[00:32] <snap-l> wolfger: I know JoDee is not thrilled with Feedly.
[01:12] <rick_h__> Blazeix: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Swapping_characters,_words_and_lines at the end might help a little as well but more magic there
[01:41] <rick_h__> http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/24/microsoft-debuts-new-sculpt-mice-with-windows-8-start-buttons
[01:41] <rick_h__> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/yo-dawg-we-heard-you-like-start-buttons-so-we-put-one-in-your-mouse/
[12:42] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:42] <rick_h__> ugh
[12:43] <snap-l> That rockin'?
[12:43] <snap-l> Or is that rickin'? :)
[12:43] <rick_h__> pretty much
[12:43] <rick_h__> rollin
[12:43] <snap-l> rickin', rockin' and rollin'
[12:43] <snap-l> ballin'
[12:44] <brousch> rick rollin?
[12:44] <rick_h__> pretty much, I've been rick rollin through my morning so far
[12:46] <snap-l> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9058804/tumblr_lhh5hrKgH81qccxpi.gif
[12:49] <brousch> We had a really cool talk last night about Pd
[12:49] <brousch> It's a sound synthesis programming language
[12:50] <brousch> Python bindings and runs on Android
[12:52] <snap-l> Interesting
[12:53] <snap-l>  http://obiwannabe.co.uk/html/sound-design/sound-design-all.html >
[12:53] <snap-l> ?
[12:53] <brousch> yeah
[12:53] <snap-l> Will check it out.
[12:54] <brousch> I wish i had recorded that talk
[12:54] <snap-l> Me too. :)
[12:55] <brousch> He doesn't use Python, so if I can get the Python part down, I might ask him to give the Pd talk again at a GRPUG meeting and then I'll cover the Python part
[12:57] <brousch> His digirattle app is simple and open source, and the AnthroSynth app shows a lot of what Pd can do (requires a fairly new Android tablet) https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=anthropomo
[13:05] <snap-l> brousch: Downloaded the Pitch Finder app. That might come in handy for me, being a drummer and all. ;)
[13:06] <snap-l> AnthroSynth isn't available for my phone, though
[13:13] <brousch1> snap-l: I needed to install python-pyaudio system wide and use a virtualenv with --system-site-packages to get libpd Python running on 12.04
[13:26] <snap-l> Sounds like the same shenanigans to get pygame working
[13:27] <snap-l> or numpy. ;)
[13:27] <rick_h__> or you'll need all the -dev packages to compile it in the venv
[13:29] <snap-l> If you can get fortran code to reliably compile in a venv, you're a better man than I. ;)
[13:30] <snap-l> John tried adding numpy and pandas to our list of default packages, and almost without fail I've commented it out. :)
[13:31] <snap-l> program note: That's also one of the reasons I went ballistic on Packt with their Instant PyGame booklet. It used numpy for generating 3 random number tuples for color picking.
[13:32] <snap-l> Which seemed excessive for a book that didn't even tell you how to install Pygame
[13:32] <snap-l> but I digress. :)
[13:33] <brousch1> Pygame fails in venv
[13:33] <brousch1> They need to get their act together!
[13:34] <snap-l> yeah, mostly because of libsdl dependencies
[13:37] <snap-l> related to CHC vim vs gvim discussion: one strike against gvim: can't use the status-bar of a window as an easy way to cut and paste the name of the file without triggering the window resize event.
[13:37] <snap-l> (yes, I'm lazy. ;) )
[13:39] <rick_h__> what are you copying/pasting the file name for?
[13:40] <snap-l> mysql -u root dbname < $some_sql
[13:40] <snap-l> again, lazy. :)
[15:16] <brousch1> The conclusion of MSSQL with Kivy on Android: "Thank you all for your help on this. I was finally able to convince my boss to get me a MySQL server and now the last link of the project has been realized. Thank you Thomas for your recipe."
[15:16]  * brousch1 facepalms
[15:21] <rick_h__> lol
[15:37] <jrwren_> new turbogears, wtf?
[15:37] <jrwren_> 'Removal of all dependencies on Pylons'
[15:37] <jrwren_> who is running TG now?
[15:38] <snap-l> Not mramm, last I checked
[15:38] <jrwren_> right
[15:38] <snap-l> don't recall the name at the moment
[15:38] <brousch1> Aren't there 2 turogears?
[15:40] <rick_h__> some people have carried it on
[15:40] <brousch1> Turbogears 1.x is still alove
[15:40] <brousch1> alive
[15:40] <rick_h__> there was a party that wanted to move on top of pyramid but others that just want what they have to work
[15:46] <jrwren_> makes good sense if you have production code out there running on it.
[15:46] <snap-l> Yeah, last I remembered 1.x was living on, 2.x was subject to being ported but I haven't kept up on progress
[15:47] <snap-l> But something tells me it would have likely resulted in 2.x living on in state, and tg++ becoming the pyramid ported version
[15:47] <jrwren_> i was just surprised to see a new release.
[15:47] <snap-l> but honestly Pyramid kinda sucked the wind from everyone's sails in the "build on top of pylons / pyramid" approach
[15:48] <rick_h__> I don't think there will be a pyramid ported TG any more
[15:48] <jcastro> ugh
[15:48] <jcastro> snap-l: new megadeth album is really kind of meh
[15:49] <snap-l> jcastro: Yeah, but you didn't like Th1rt33333333n either
[15:49] <jcastro> 13 grew on me a bit, and even then it's only like 2 songs
[15:49] <snap-l> aka M3g41337
[15:50] <snap-l> Funny enough someone dumped their Megadeth collection over at UHF a while ago
[15:50] <snap-l> I picked up United Abominations just to keep myself legal. :)
[15:50] <snap-l> I think I'll pick up The System Has Failed at some point, and call it a MegaDay.
[15:51] <snap-l> And that's only because I think Vinnie Colaiuta is the Bee's Knees.
[15:53] <snap-l> Starting to remind me of the Cryptic Writings / Risk / World Needs a Hero era where Megadeth felt stale
[15:54]  * snap-l would even put Youthanasia in there as well
[16:27] <jrwren_> python gets a C# 1.0 feature :p  http://lukasz.langa.pl/8/single-dispatch-generic-functions/
[16:51] <rick_h__> trollolol