[05:47] Good morning all [05:53] morning [06:45] good morning [06:51] why on earth does anyone want to ddos freenode? [07:09] hi magespawn and others [07:09] looks like the fly's server went to sleep yesterday [07:13] haai [07:15] howdy Kilos Vince-0 [07:16] hi Vince-0 [07:39] morning peeps [07:40] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:00] Vince-0, did anyone offer to get ubuntustudio for that ray guy? [08:10] Morning [08:10] hi mazal [08:23] hiya maiatoday [08:23] hows our girl? [08:24] hey Kilos, fine thanks [08:25] you? [08:25] bearing up under the flu ty [08:25] when do them monday classes thing of yours end [08:25] ? [08:26] QA , is jy verdwaal [08:26] mazal: *blink* [08:26] Don't you blink at me !! [08:27] QA, greet [08:27] Greetings you few active peeps and all the lurkers!! [08:30] brb restart [08:30] k [08:33] Kilos, ya there are a couple of guys volunteering on the list [08:33] ty Vince-0 i dunno how come he didnt mail our list [08:34] maybe its google stopping it again [08:34] grrr [08:34] Durban locals [08:34] cool ty [08:34] whats your list addy? [08:35] its a Google group list [08:35] ah [08:35] https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/dbnlug [08:35] thats too much for me [08:35] tied to dbnlug@gmail.com [08:35] but I'm not sure that you can Email that address and it will go to the list [08:36] ill stay on our list [08:36] aw [08:36] get the important ubuntu mails [08:36] lol dont that group eat data? [08:37] na, once your subscribed it will just deliver Emails [08:37] i dont use a browser much [08:37] oh ok will look at it [08:37] I don't really use the page unless I'm editing notes in html [08:38] hmm... [08:39] how can one sign in if not registered first [08:39] where is the register button [08:40] ow, it's been a while [08:41] have a gmail account?? [08:41] ya [08:41] even got g+ a while back [08:44] ray_ found us from the dlug website irc chat, not even sure if he knows about ubuntu-za as a seperate entity [08:44] i gave him the info from the topic here so dunno why he didnt get to our mail [08:45] wow it even knew my password for gmail [08:46] maybe does not understand the difference or had already signed up to the lug, not serious either way [08:47] Durban LUG wins! I promote Linux Mint over Ubuntu for noobs [08:47] eeek [08:48] *jokes [08:48] lol [08:48] but seriously [08:48] hmm... pending approval [08:49] ah, we used that to hide people's mail addresses from public viewing [08:49] ah [08:50] so how long it pends? [08:50] hehe [08:50] till Vince-0 lets you in [08:51] ow, I don't think I'm even the admin [08:52] oh i thought you would be [08:53] well then until an admin lets you in [08:53] i did the contact the owner route [08:53] I can pull some strings [08:54] Error while trying to send message [08:54] I should be admin - always wanted to move the list into a self hosted [08:54] something dont work [08:54] aarg [08:54] lol [08:56] I know people [08:57] good tell them fix it [08:57] pull their strings [09:04] should be approved [09:05] darned spam prevention [09:05] does it think im a spammer [09:05] grrr [09:07] yay ty Vince-0 just got the mail [09:07] ha! it thinks everyone is a bot unless proven innocent [09:07] hehe [09:28] maaz, coffee on [09:28] * Maaz puts the kettle on [09:29] maaz big [09:29] mazal: Sorry... [09:29] maaz large [09:29] In a beer mug just for you mazal [09:30] maaz go to roc they also want coffee [09:30] barrydk: What? [09:31] hi barrydk [09:32] Coffee's ready for mazal! [09:37] Maaz dankie [09:37] Groot plesier mazal my vriend [10:01] seems like the internet is a bit better today [10:35] Hi Kilos [11:26] is it my imagination is is 12.04 getting faster after each upgrade? === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [11:54] hey magespawn have you noticed? apt-get upgrade does lotsa stuff except for [11:54] linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae [11:54] aptitude upgrade does that as well === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:59] hmm... reboot needed [11:59] wbb [12:20] hi kilos [12:21] hi Ray did you win yet [12:21] hope all is well ... just checking if anyone managed to find someone in durbs by the sea who has ububtu dvd's ... normal and studio [12:21] nah mate ... havent heard anything [12:21] yes there were 2 replies to your request [12:21] on the google groups mail [12:21] oh .. how do i see that [12:22] oh my [12:22] ok .. lemme try get there [12:22] i just joined there today [12:22] Vince-0: point ray to the right place please [12:22] im on kde now so got no history [12:23] thanks .. much appreciated [12:23] can you get to william [12:23] he gave his addy [12:26] google groups mail ? [12:26] looks like he found it mazal [12:26] But I didn't :-P [12:26] What's that ? [12:26] you gotta join [12:27] its a group of linux users [12:27] and now me [12:28] its the dbn lug guys mazal [12:28] i found it lol .. now im learning how to reply ... [12:29] cool [12:29] ahh got it [12:29] took me a while there too [12:31] o ok [12:32] they have hangouts on g+ [12:32] for peeps with no caps [12:33] ok .. now i just gotta hook up with William [12:33] im learning [12:34] thanks hey Kilos, thats great [12:35] cool Ray then once installed you most likely will need some guiding [12:35] so you install xchat and set freenode to come here [12:36] ok cool .. im making notes ...lol [12:37] do you know how to use the command line? [12:37] hey guys i am trying to follow the directions here http://book.schooltool.org/editing-this-book.html#building-an-html-version [12:37] but when i get to the make html command i get the following [12:38] mkdir -p build/html build/doctrees [12:38] sphinx-build -b html -d build/doctrees source build/html [12:38] make: sphinx-build: Command not found [12:38] make: *** [html] Error 127 [12:38] eeek [12:38] at this point im just going to take it as it comes Kilos ...lol [12:39] cool, we are here most of the time [12:39] not sure what to expect .. but yeah ... cmd line i have seen before ... shouldnt be too hard with all the help thats available [12:39] im truly impressed [12:39] bill Gates should be very worried [12:39] once you into it you will wonder why you didnt change years ago [12:40] yeah .. our solutions developer in Perth (Captivate On Hold) .. sweears by it and actually turned me on to it [12:40] well they even said they wanna make a linux version of winsucks [12:41] i have found some google stuff, busy reading now [12:42] lol .. pay a gazillion rand for a windows system ... and support sucks eggs [12:42] lol [12:43] you have a fast pc hey Ray ? [12:43] well ... kinda [12:43] otherwise it might be better getting the 12.04 release [12:43] oh i see [12:43] lotsa eye candy in new ones [12:44] william said as well the 12.04 gets 5 years support [12:44] celeron 2.4Ghz [12:44] 2 megs ram [12:45] yeah .. i think ill go 12.04 then mate [12:45] he normally keeps all the iso's [12:45] coool .. will studio run on my pc ya think? [12:46] yip the 12.04 will [12:46] ubuntu studio? [12:46] yep [12:47] it should do [12:47] i have a m-audio device for recording voiceovers [12:47] excellent [12:47] Bye all [12:47] the main differences between the various buntu's is the desktop and the programs that come as default installs [12:48] found the solution to my problem, i did not have python-sphinx installed [12:48] ok .. i just need to install and see so i can get a reference [12:49] at the moment i just know windows (like all the other sheep) [12:49] you use win7 on that pc Ray ? [12:50] you have found the right channel [12:50] xp mate ... didnt have the need to upgrade ... its stable and does what i need it to [12:50] we do lotsa weening here [12:50] im mjust think of the resource use [12:50] ie .. zoho crm ... zoho mail ... recording [12:51] a pc that can handle 7 goes well with ubuntu [12:51] ubuntu is also growing all the time to meet what peeps want [12:52] and young ones like eye candy [12:52] hmmm .. does quickbooks run in ubuntu as well? [12:52] what is quickbooks [12:53] whats the score with compatibility of other programs? [12:53] no it does not, but there are plenty of alternatives [12:53] bookkeeping prog [12:53] http://community.intuit.com/posts/ubuntu-users-can-now-use-quickbooks-online-edition [12:53] you can run some windows programs under wine, or you can install a virtual machine and run windows in that [12:54] there must be a linux alternative [12:54] which i can just google i assume? [12:54] 2g is a bit slow for virtual magespawn [12:54] first ask here ray? [12:55] someone might be doing similar work [12:55] sometimes gooles links mislead one some [12:56] ill try it on the spare PC i am going to install ubuntu on .. and then if it works ill slowly change everyone else over to ubuntu .. [12:56] http://askubuntu.com/questions/234498/whats-a-recommended-alternative-to-quickbooks-pro [12:56] yep ,, definitely will kilos [12:56] cool [12:58] actually when you see william tell him what you got and he will guide you [12:59] k .. will do [13:04] lol you gonna end up like me wanting a faster pc [13:11] heey! Ya William is going to hook Ray up [13:17] GnuCash seems to be the go to program, but i have never used it [13:17] there is also a windows version so you can try it first [13:17] quickbooks is quite specialised ... from what i read ... there isnt much on Linux with all the same functionality .. especially copyover of existing records [13:17] i see theres an online version of quickbooks though [13:17] ooooh online books ... not cool or what? [13:18] yip Vince-0 billy loses another one [13:18] yay [13:18] how is linux for viruses, phishing , hackers an all that nasty stuff? [13:18] no virii [13:18] normally safe from all the stuff that kills windows [13:18] ok cool .. does ubuntu come with inbuilt measures? [13:18] yip [13:18] or not neccessary? [13:18] the guys only use clamav antivirus on servers [13:18] to scan what goes through that will affect windows users [13:20] Kilos, billy? [13:20] bill gates [13:20] hehe [13:20] ah lol, [13:21] billy boy === Trixar_zb is now known as Trixar_za [13:21] i get so lekker when peeps get weaned off there [13:21] hi Trixar_za [13:22] windows truly sucks .. the other day some dude called me from pakistan to tell me i had a windows virus and needed to log onto some site so he could fix it ... yeh right ... though i dont yet ... i told him im on ubuntu and he put the phone down [13:22] Hey Kilos [13:24] lol [13:25] there are lots of those phishing calls [13:26] yip skelms all [13:26] cybercrime pays they say [13:27] he didnt expect me to say ubuntu ... threw him a bit [13:27] i saw on the lunchtime news that microsoft is gonna work with the FBI to fight cybercrime [13:28] what .. to steal our data and keep tabs on us ? ...lol [13:28] big brother .. [13:28] lol [13:28] yo Zarw [13:29] i offered one of my clients our solution on Linux (raspberry Pi) ... he said no he doesnt trust Linux ..??? [13:29] thats because of billy [13:30] they said a while back that linux allows virii in [13:30] he's brainwashed the poor bugger [13:30] meantime its other way around [13:31] it was all scare tactics so he dont lose so many customers [13:31] probably just ignorant he is .. thats why i need to learn this stuff .. normally its all done out of our main office in Perth [13:31] were pushing out raspberry Pi's now as standard ... so i gotta know what im talking about [13:31] get then to go too #ubuntu-au [13:32] on irc [13:32] theres lotsa ubuntu okes there [13:32] yep .. my man Lawrence is into it over there === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [13:33] and poked me in the ribs with a sharp stick to get it done [13:33] and here i am [13:33] so Ray when are you seeing william? [13:33] oh he got you here to us [13:33] Ray what is it that you sell? [13:33] clever man [13:34] dunno .. waiting for williams reply as to how to contact him [13:34] we do dynamic audio for telephone on hold, in store comms and in hotel rooms ... check out www.captivateglobal.com [13:34] maybe Vince-0 can help you [13:34] only technology of its kind in the world [13:35] we insert 10 second news / weather and other dynamic content inbetween company promo's ... the content changes every day automatically [13:36] instore radio? [13:36] only platform in the world that interfaces with VOIP [13:36] that too [13:36] on hold for phones is the big seller [13:36] SA companies struggle to "get it" tho [13:37] and you run it on the pi? [13:37] sometimes takes years to convince them [13:38] yep mage ... either to a linear audio output ... or as a download script .. and copyover the a-law file in the MOH directory [13:38] some voip vendors in SA bundle our service with their systems [13:39] biggest prob with the Pi is people steal the memcards [13:39] but we cut them flush and tape off the slot now ...lol [13:39] glue them in [13:39] cant .. they tend to go faulty if its dodgy mem .. then we cant change them [13:40] ahh i see [13:40] only problem we ever have with the Pi is dodgy memory [13:41] we left one running on the dash in the sun to try break it ...got so hot we couldnt pick it up .. and it just carried on going [13:42] nifty lil things [13:42] indeed [13:42] can you network boot them? [13:42] they auto boot if you lose power .. so a reboot is as simple as unplugging .. and replugging [13:42] plus .. corporates dont like us having access .. so we show them how to change the password [13:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_booting [13:44] not sure what linux flavor my man lawrence runs on them tho ... i just plug em into my router ... he configures them .. and i post them off [13:44] im good at poting them off ...lol [13:44] i.e. boot them from an image accessed over a LAN instead of booting from a local disk/flash device [13:44] *posting [13:45] ahh i see [13:45] i will mention that to lawrence .. [13:45] seems possible but still needs an sdcard to start it up [13:46] imho ... we should be running these services straight off our rotation server ... but corporates dont like inbound access [13:46] fine if it "fetches" ... but having something pushed to it ... is dodgy in their eyes [13:46] how on earth do you get decent audio quality off a pi? [13:47] so we just do whatever makes them happy .. its their money [13:47] we use a-law wav files ... standard codecs on most phone systems [13:48] plus .. its just a dinky lil telephone speaker ... cant really get broadcast quality out of it anyways [13:49] though for windows it all runs on MP3 files [13:49] true you don't really need or expect much quality from a phone [13:50] downloads playlist ... playluist checks file changes ... downloads changed files in mp3 ... orders and encodes them to alaw .. writes it into a single loop .. and overwrites the file in the MOH directory [13:50] yeh its not the sydney opera [13:51] the magic though is in the studio software ... the PI is a small part of it [13:51] wbb. going to unity [13:51] just thanks kilos ..cya [13:53] k guys im off to do some work .. thanks for all your help [15:26] hello Kilos [15:27] ohi kbmonkey [15:27] I was afk last night, but got your ping [15:27] hows things [15:27] hmm... [15:27] i forget why now [15:27] when I am marked as 'away', and come back, it tells me who mentioned my name [15:27] ah [15:28] hows goeters that side? [15:28] not too bad ty [15:28] the wind is getting cold [15:28] i wonder what i wanted [15:28] dont moan we got ice in outside taps in the mornings [15:29] yowza! [15:29] do you have a time i said your name [15:29] did you download crunchbang inthe end? [15:29] 20:15 #ubuntu-za: < Kilos> hi kbmonkey [15:29] ya but same no 3g thing [15:29] grr [15:29] gave up [15:30] oh that was on the 4th, my bad [15:30] lol i think what happened is [15:31] lotsa netsplits etc yesterday and xchat shows peeps joining before they show away [15:31] maybe thats why i said hi [15:31] and crunchbang uses the x thing [15:31] yup [15:32] not lekker with all drives showing on desktop like that [15:32] even unity is better [15:32] hehe [15:33] it does not allow desktop icons like that [15:33] and the xthing dont have sound in xchat i need to use external stuff and modify /usr/share/sounds/ i think it was [15:33] ok then thats xubuntu [15:33] xthing? [15:33] suP! [15:33] oh xubuntu. [15:34] hi hi Vince-0 [15:34] yo Vince-0 [15:34] * kbmonkey is rocking the Otep [15:35] nice! [15:35] I have Heaven & Hell - Neverwhere [15:36] i even joined you okeys googlegroup thing kbmonkey [15:37] we have a google group? o_O [15:37] trying to get ubuntu for a noob [15:37] hang on, my brain has holes today [15:37] oh arent you with the lug okes [15:37] * Kilos hangs on [15:37] had a 2 hour interview today, it went well. I aced the one puzzle [15:37] another job? [15:38] ! I heard via the grapevine [15:38] the one question I remember was in a Die Hard movie, ha ha [15:39] what kinda interview is that [15:39] it tests solution finding [15:39] ah [15:40] Kilos, you have a 5 litre and 3 litre containers, you have to only use those two and get a total of 4 litres in the end [15:40] 2 in each [15:41] 4 in one [15:41] lol [15:41] I found two of the possible 3 ways [15:41] and sell the other one [15:41] hehe [15:41] yar, and make some action on the side [15:44] almost weekend again, Vince-0, yeeeah [15:44] yar! [15:47] although I have to go Joburg to see family [15:49] my sis went last weekend to see Chevelle play there [15:50] not much of a fan myself, but must be a good show either way [15:57] yeah some guys from work went -said it was epic [15:58] not as epic as Metallica! [15:58] agreed! [16:07] I've seen 'em twice in SA - blew my expectations both times [16:11] need more metal! Hopefully pull of a lil 3 fest tour in the EU next year this time [16:11] bbl [16:11] okay, ciao ciao Vince-0 [17:05] one thing about crunchbang kbmonkey speedy download [17:06] 808m in 45 mins [17:07] them torrents revved 8ta [17:14] :) [19:49] night all. sleep tight [20:25] evening [20:55] Maaz: tell Kilos that it's currently 2deg outside and it's only 11pm [20:55] Squirm-: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode === tumblewed is now known as tumbleweed [22:28] tumbleweed: is Atrum down for everyone, or just me?