[01:24] <globeking> new 1304 install wont boot.  not writing grub to disk.  is this known issuse
[05:43] <jenkel> Can anyone help with a win 8 dualboot? I'm confused about grub.
[05:43] <zequence> jenkel: you installed Ubuntu Studio next to Win8?
[05:49] <jenkel> zequence: yep ubuntu installed.Only win 8 boots. Used Easy BCD to update bootloader and have the option to choose ubuntu but get an error saying can't find neogrub0.mbr
[05:51] <zequence> jenkel: I've never heard of easy BCD, and when it comes to dual booting Ubuntu Studio with Windows, it's the same for all Ubuntu flavors
[05:51] <zequence> so, you might find more answers somehwere more Ubuntu releated
[05:51] <zequence> like #ubuntu, or check http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:51] <jenkel> thanks
[05:59] <Unit193> Yeah, the guide he may have been looking for was !uefi.
[06:30] <green_> any developers here
[06:32] <green_> any developers online
[13:39] <NickG> Hey
[13:40] <cfhowlett> NickG, ho
[13:40] <NickG> I was reading about contributing to Ubuntu Studio and I am fully supportive of this OS and I want to contribute, I program in PHP5 and MySQL and design HTML and CSS would there be something I could do?
[13:41] <NickG> see http://hillcanproductions.com its my company and I made the site
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !contribute
[13:42] <NickG> ?
[13:42] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: ubottu was disconnected by services. Sorry.
[13:43] <SonikkuAmerica> I think it's ubuntustudio.org/contribute
[13:43] <SonikkuAmerica> I think it's * http://ubuntustudio.org/contribute
[13:43] <cfhowlett> http://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/
[13:43] <NickG> Yah but they direct me here
[13:43] <NickG> so it seems kind of a circular process lol
[13:44] <cfhowlett> NickG, well the developer channel (rarely used it seems) is #ubuntustudio-devel.  But if you see the wiki, you'll find contract info for the team leads.
[13:44] <SonikkuAmerica> No, it says to join #ubuntustudio-devel
[13:44] <NickG> Oh ok, I will look there, thank you!  :)
[13:47] <cfhowlett> NickG, also see the ubuntustudio and ubuntu art forums
[13:47] <NickG> Yes, I will do that.  thank you.  For now a shower.  Have a great day!
[14:06] <zequence> my connection is so bad, so I never know if what I wrote actually was sent anywhere
[14:07] <holstein> zequence: :/
[14:08] <zequence> holstein: are you doing the theatre gigs now?
[14:08] <holstein> im doing *a* theater gig now ;)
[14:09] <holstein> not sure how much of it i'll get, or can take
[14:09] <holstein> its not a bad scenario, and im glad to have the work.. but the repetitive nature is not something im totally comfortable with on a long term basis
[14:09] <zequence> I can empathize with that
[14:10] <zequence> could be worse though
[14:10] <zequence> could be minimalism
[14:10] <zequence> like 3 notes for 2h straights
[14:10] <holstein> hehe .. theres one like that, in the start of act 2
[14:11] <holstein> just F quaternotes for like 3 minutes or so..
[14:12] <SonikkuAmerica> That's gotta be dull and boring...
[14:12] <holstein> it can be.. its a good group though
[14:13] <holstein> http://www.flatrockplayhouse.org/project/evita/ is what im doing now.. then lemis
[14:15] <zequence> pretty big show then
[14:15] <holstein> well, the "orchestra" is a bit of a cheat
[14:15] <holstein> like 8 of us trying to emulate a large group
[14:16] <zequence> yeah, it looks very much like what we were doing, the couple of times I was involved in musicals
[14:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Even on Broadway they're trying to curb that kind of thing...
[14:17] <holstein> im surprised theres a market for it around here.. and im not sure there actually is.. i heard they were in $$ trouble this past season
[14:35] <NickG> zequence, you're a team lead for Ubuntu studio right?
[14:35] <NickG> I had emailed Scott Lavender (?) about joining on the website team, but then on his blog I notice he had left Ubuntu Studio
[14:36] <DarkEra> doh
[14:36] <NickG> zequence is having internet troubles
[14:37] <DarkEra> NickG, yes he has and he's the lead of ubuntu studio :)
[14:37] <DarkEra> also freenode is still stuggling with the ddos attacks it seems
[14:38] <NickG> Oh the entire Ubuntu Studio?
[14:38] <NickG> oh we got ddos'd?
[14:38] <holstein> NickG: you should /join #ubuntustudio
[14:38] <holstein> NickG: you should /join #ubuntustudio-devel
[14:38] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: ?!
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: Oh
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> I was about to say...
[14:39] <DarkEra> NickG, according to the global message yesterday yes
[14:39] <NickG> ok good stuff
[14:39] <holstein> NickG: did you /join the mailing lists?
[14:39] <holstein> NickG: also, the #xubuntu-devel channel is relevant
[14:40] <NickG> Yeah I just joined.  Navigating around trying to contribute is proving to be a confusing task lol.  They told me to join the irc, then look at the wiki and join mailing lists
[14:40] <holstein> NickG: it is
[14:40] <NickG> lol
[14:40] <NickG> I will email kaj
[14:40] <zequence> How is it confusing?
[14:40] <holstein> NickG: it takes a certain amount of resources to have avenues like that in place
[14:41] <zequence> You join the mail list and/or the IRC channel, and present yourself
[14:41] <zequence> NickG: I'm Kaj
[14:41] <NickG> I'm not sure how they all tie in to each other.
[14:41] <holstein> the list is active with different folks
[14:41] <holstein> NickG: they dont have to tie in at all
[14:41] <holstein> NickG: folks use irc.. folks use the list.. most of the *devel happens in IRC though
[14:42] <NickG> oh, so like covering all bases then
[14:42] <holstein> NickG: its more like this.. if you dont like *any* of the avenues, you are free, and encouraged to open a new one
[14:42] <holstein> NickG: then, there will be an additional avenue to maintain
[14:42] <NickG> Regardless, I joined the mailing list
[14:43] <zequence> the mail list is a absolute must
[14:43] <holstein> yup.. hard facts come down the list
[14:43] <zequence> any announcements will be made there, and all devs subscribe to it, so they will read all the mail there
[14:43] <NickG> Oh, no I just didn't know why the ubuntustudio.org/contribute told me to go three avenues, I didn't realize it was an either-or type of thing thats all, confusion resolved I guess
[14:44] <zequence> some of the discussion happens there, but not all
[14:44] <zequence> most of the talk is on the IRC channel
[14:44] <NickG> Ok, I joined it :)
[14:45] <zequence> I think this kind of sums it up "Just get into touch with us, and we’ll go from there."
[14:45] <NickG> Is there anything related to website work that needs doing?  I'm a PHP programmer and designing in HTML and CSS/photoshop/gimp for 10 years
[14:46] <NickG> yah I missed that line, I was reading too fast lol
[21:32] <NickG> I cant seem to log into this channel and ubuntu studios developers irc...
[21:33] <OvenWerks> NickG: You're here?
[21:34] <NickG> yes but not in the developers room
[21:34] <DarkEra> NickG, #ubuntustudio-devel
[21:34] <NickG> I thought it was #ubuntustudio-devel
[21:34] <DarkEra> yep
[21:34] <NickG> Yeh, see, do I need to do it in a new tab maybe?  Earlier I was in three chats on this one tab
[21:34] <NickG> New to IRC
[21:35] <DarkEra> if you get in try to add it to your favorites
[21:35] <NickG> I should have done that, lol.
[21:35] <DarkEra> is it xchat you use?
[21:36] <NickG> Nope
[21:36] <NickG> umm.
[21:36] <NickG> Chrome
[21:36] <NickG> Should I use a client?
[21:36] <holstein> theres not really a "should".. you should use what you want, and what works
[21:37] <holstein> i use irssi in screen.. .xchat is a good GUI one
[21:37] <NickG> If its like email, I prefer to go to gmail.com instead of using outlook or thunderbird.  Idunno why, Lemme look at xchat
[21:38] <DarkEra> if it's the webbased chat you use you could expect some more trouble. Not always but it could happen
[21:38] <holstein> i dont use email clients either.. but i use irssi in screen so i can run it on a server, persistently, and reconnect where ever i am
[21:39] <NickG> Im BACK
[21:39] <DarkEra> yay! \o/
[21:39] <NickG> I like Xchat better, I recall trying to use it long ago and it wouldn't connect so I stopped trying lol
[21:40] <holstein> *you couldnt connect with it
[21:40] <NickG> It was a while ago, months
[21:40] <NickG> I'm not sure why, but it wouldn't connect to a chat I was trying to join
[21:40] <holstein> when i started using irssi, i went with weechat instead at first, since it auto connected to freenode.. then, i learned how to make irssi connect
[21:41] <NickG> I'm not sure what irssi is
[21:41] <holstein> !info irssi
[21:42] <NickG> Oh nice
[21:42] <NickG> is ubottu a bot?
[21:42] <NickG> that response to commands beginning with !?
[21:43] <holstein> NickG: right..
[21:43] <holstein> !help
[21:43] <holstein> !proaudio
[21:43] <NickG> !info ubuntu
[21:43] <NickG> ?
[21:43] <NickG> ahhh for package
[21:43] <holstein> !info xchat
[21:43] <NickG> !info compiz
[21:43] <NickG> neat
[21:43] <NickG> I like bots
[21:44] <holstein> NickG: its also a little more relaxed in this channel, but tthe official ubuntu channels, you want to mind the topic
[21:45] <NickG> I see
[21:45] <holstein> NickG: we wouldnt be playing around with the bot in #xubuntu, for example
[21:45] <NickG> Thanks for the heads up
[21:45] <holstein> and, this is an offical, and logged channel.. but we relaxed the "rules" a bit
[21:45] <NickG> ahh ok.
[21:46] <Unit193> You can also PM the bot too, all the commands work the same in it.
[21:48] <NickG> Oh, what are some commands I should know about IRC to not appear.... you know...
[21:48]  * holstein is where you type "/me does something"
[21:49] <NickG> ok
[21:49] <holstein>  /topic
[21:49] <NickG> afk
[21:49] <holstein>  /names ..for me, since i dont have a names list...
[23:25] <NickG> It's not too busy in here, eh