[00:10] <David-A> mikubuntu: if it is connected via sata or pata maybe. I dont know about laptops.
[00:19] <mikubuntu> David-A: how can i install or enable a force close with the terminal?
[00:20] <mikubuntu> David-A: for some reason i can't close startup disk creator
[00:22] <David-A> mikubuntu: pkill  (do you know about kill? pkill takes a program name instead of a process id)
[00:23] <mikubuntu> David-A: can you elaborate -- yes i remember using killall sometime a long time ago -- but there was a little 'forceclose' app that i used more recently where you just put the cursor in the top bar of the offending program and clicked to forececlose
[00:24] <mikubuntu> *forceclose
[00:36] <David-A> mikubuntu: come back, it is xkill
[01:06] <mikubuntu> ok, there is definitely something going on here -- xubuntu 12.04 is supposed to be NON-PAE, so WHY am i getting a message in bootloading that pae is not present on the CPU? i just reloaded the stick with x-12.04 (twice) and problem persisting.
[01:06] <Unit193> What application are you using to create the bootable flash?
[01:08] <mikubuntu> been using startup disk creator
[01:08] <Unit193> Try DD, I suspect that application is doing something wrong.
[01:08] <mikubuntu> i think so too
[01:08] <mikubuntu> lol
[01:14] <mikubuntu> Unit193: and xfburn and brasero apparently don't want to write to stick -- only option showing for them is the cd drive .... arrrrrrrghhhhh
[01:15] <mikubuntu> oh, i'm just seeing you said use DD, but i'm not familiar with it
[01:16] <Unit193> Like http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device
[01:21] <mikubuntu> Unit193: i don't think that will work for me -- i can't really follow it
[01:22] <mikubuntu> i thought gparted automagically formatted ntfs to stick?
[01:42] <mikubuntu> Unit193: tried once AGAIN burning to the stick -- wish me luck
[01:54] <mikubuntu> thats it, i quit, i'm moving on -- for today anyways -- been trying to get this install done since about 4pm and its almost 10 now. my eyes and my brain are starting to fail me. thx for all the help, prolly be back tomorrow.
[02:09] <xubuntu737> hello guys i'm new to lunix and i have a question
[02:09] <xubuntu737> anybody here plz
[02:09] <xubuntu737> ?
[02:11] <xubuntu737> hello
[02:11] <ur0pl> ersio/part
[02:12] <xubuntu737> what do they mean by you are eligible to security updates for three years as opposed to the not-too-shabby-either eighteen months that you get with the normal releases.?
[02:12] <xubuntu737> that means i will not have security update after 18 months ?
[02:14] <Unit193> You can upgrade to the new version.
[02:15] <xubuntu737> ok thanks because that really worried me
[02:15] <xubuntu737> if i don't get the update why bother installing it you know .
[02:23] <xubuntu737> new here guys need more information i didn't see in the site
[02:24] <xubuntu737> anyone wants to help and answer my questions
[02:24] <xubuntu737> ?
[02:26] <vorsorken> just ask your questions and people will jump in if they know the answers
[02:27] <xubuntu737> ok
[02:28] <xubuntu737> when you upgrade do you lose your files ...etc or you keep everything ?
[02:29] <xubuntu737> installing the new releases to keep getting security update coming in
[02:29] <xubuntu737> right ?
[02:35] <vorsorken> your files should remain intact after upgrade but back up everything you don't want to lose just in case
[02:43] <xubuntu737> thanks man sorry for my late reply this damn windows freezes all the time
[02:45] <xubuntu737> i'm new so plz forgive me for my stupid questions
[02:47] <xubuntu737> which the fastest and stable destro ; xubuntu,lubuntu,puppy,mint... ? that's what i'm trying to choose to install in my old computer
[04:23] <shankstaBytes> can i remove the bottom panel in xubuntu?
[04:24] <holstein> shankstaBytes: i would personally experiment either in a new "test" user account, or in the guest account, or from a live CD
[04:24] <Unit193> Ctrl+right click remove.
[04:25] <shankstaBytes> it wont let me remove panel 1
[04:25] <shankstaBytes> should i just use open box?
[04:25] <shankstaBytes> i dont know much about different DEs
[04:25] <shankstaBytes> i usually just use unity or gnome
[04:25] <holstein> shankstaBytes: what are the errors?.. do you want to remove the panel or use openbox?
[04:26] <shankstaBytes> i want the path of least resistance
[04:26] <holstein> shankstaBytes: learning new things can take time.. what do you want to do?
[04:27] <shankstaBytes> i guess i just dont have much time but all i know is i can't remove the bottom panel on xfce
[04:28] <holstein> shankstaBytes: sure..have you tried Unit193 's suggestion? what is the error?
[04:28] <Unit193> You can't hit the minus sign?  Then something is amiss, in permissions or otherwise.
[04:28] <shankstaBytes> nope it is grayed out
[04:28] <shankstaBytes> disabled
[04:28] <shankstaBytes> i removed the top panel no problem
[04:28] <holstein> i dont think you can get rid of all panels that way
[04:29] <holstein> shankstaBytes: i would just use openbox.. or kill the xfce panel application..
[04:29] <shankstaBytes> ya xubuntu uses lightdm so i can easily switch back to xfce if openbox sucks right
[04:30] <holstein> shankstaBytes: well.. nothing "sucks".. it'll just be soemthing that doesnt "fit your needs"
[04:30] <shankstaBytes> ya thats what i mean
[04:30] <holstein> shankstaBytes: openbox has no panels by default..
[04:30] <Madoka_Miku> Has anybody else had problem with *buntu messing up the profiles in firefox so that it makes it inaccessible. I get the message "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.", followed by a I/O error.
[04:31] <holstein> Madoka_Miku: i havent use FF long term in a while, but i would try as another user.. sounds like a permissions issue maybe?
[04:32] <Madoka_Miku> I tried setting the entire .mozilla directory to user, but it still says the same thing. I'm pretty sure that it is a permissions issue, because sudo firefox works just fine.
[04:32] <Unit193> Madoka_Miku: I've not hit that.
[04:33] <holstein> Madoka_Miku: you shouldnt have to "set" anything anyways special...
[04:33] <holstein> Madoka_Miku: running FF as root is not a good idea
[04:33] <Madoka_Miku> I would run it as user if I could.
[04:33] <Unit193> Indeed not, and that there could mess up the permissions. :P
[04:34] <holstein> yup.. thats the only time i ever saw a message like that
[04:34] <Madoka_Miku> Deleting .mozilla doesn't fix anything.
[04:34] <holstein> Madoka_Miku: i would try as a new user..
[04:34] <Unit193> Tried a chown -R on it?
[04:34] <Madoka_Miku> Not yet.
[04:35] <Madoka_Miku> Still pretty new to this, so could you help me a little on the specific command?
[04:35] <Madoka_Miku> I would appreciate it so much.
[04:36] <holstein> !chown
[04:36] <holstein> i usually make a new user, and if things are fine in the new user account i know its not the application, or the operating system.. its the user account
[04:37] <Unit193> sudo chown $(id -u):$(id -g) .mozilla/ -R
[04:37] <Unit193> And trying in a new user of course is a sound idea.
[04:38] <Madoka_Miku> That command gave no output.
[04:38] <Unit193> It wouldn't, reading up on it is a good idea.
[04:38] <Madoka_Miku> I'm still reading the article that ubottu gave me.
[04:40] <Madoka_Miku> And Firefox still gives me the same error. So I guess that I will make a new profile then. Thank you for your help, all of you.
[04:42] <holstein> Madoka_Miku: how about as a new user?
[04:42] <Unit193> He's trying it now.
[06:26] <uangbesar> hello. im running lubuntu after i closed my lid and opened it back up all my panel items were to the left instead of the traditional bottom right corner
[06:27] <bazhang> try #lubuntu uangbesar
[06:27] <uangbesar> sorry didnt know there was a lubuntu channel
[06:28] <bazhang> they would know the best about that, I'd imagine
[06:28] <uangbesar> thought it was very similar
[06:29] <bazhang> lxde/openbox  and xfce4?
[06:29] <nukke> they're rather different window manageres
[06:29] <bazhang> yeah, not so much
[06:29] <uangbesar> xubuntu is one step below lubuntu or vise versa?
[06:30] <bazhang> none are below or above
[06:30] <uangbesar> as far as using a netbook
[06:37] <xubuntu460> Hi all, just a quick question: why do I get the new release message when I log in (ssh) ? It weird...: Welcome to Ubuntu 13.04 (GNU/Linux 3.8.0-23-generic i686)   * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/  0 packages can be updated. 0 updates are security updates.  New release '13.04' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[06:37] <xubuntu460> "Welcome to Ubuntu 13.04" versus "New release '13.04'" ???
[07:07] <luk___> hi
[07:08] <luk___> having the laptop with EFI partition ... which partition I should point (in the installer) as a target for boot loader installation?
[07:11] <luk___> I've tried /dev/sda and /dev/sda2 (efi partition) and in both cases installation shows warning that in case of my partition table format (I use GPT) a separate partition for bootloader is required
[07:11] <luk___> do you have any experience with that?
[08:11] <luk___> hmm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1025555
[08:35] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[11:37] <Guest5243> hello everyone
[11:37] <Guest5243> pls give me link to openbox irc
[11:37] <TheSheep> !hi | Guest5243
[11:40] <Guest5243> skype has problems in openbox, as it doesn't seem to give needed framework titles with close, minimise and other buttons
[11:42] <TheSheep> Guest5243: I see you found the channel already
[11:42] <Guest5243> 2 people?
[11:42] <TheSheep> Guest5243: well, skype is not an open source program, so there is very little that can be done
[11:43] <Guest5243> but why does other de manages to fit skype in window
[11:43] <TheSheep> maybe there will be some hints on the troubleshooting wiki page
[11:43] <TheSheep> !skype | Guest5243
[11:43] <TheSheep> Guest5243: probably they have some kind of workarounds for it
[12:00] <Guest5243> I guess skype doesnt give window decorations itself, but openbox clearly ignores that
[12:00] <Guest5243> I like xfce, but I find openbox better as kiosk design
[12:01] <Guest5243> none of noob users can change panels, settings or anything, with pushing remove button
[12:01] <Guest5243> or such things
[12:02] <constantin_mike> hello
[12:02] <constantin_mike> i'm trying to remove, with sed, some text from some files
[12:02] <constantin_mike> i'm doing this
[12:02] <constantin_mike> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/<script(\s+)type=\"text/javascript\"(\s+)src="http://sodiummetal.com(.*).php"></script>//g'
[12:02] <constantin_mike> but i get this error
[12:02] <constantin_mike> sed: -e expression #1, char 55: unknown option to `s'
[12:03] <constantin_mike> what would the problem be?
[12:05] <TheSheep> constantin_mike: unescaped slashes
[12:06] <TheSheep> constantin_mike: use some other character, like ;
[12:06] <TheSheep> 's;<script(\s+)type=\"text/javascript\"(\s+)src="http://sodiummetal.com(.*).php"></script>;;g'
[12:07] <constantin_mike> so replacing / with ; will make it work?
[12:07] <TheSheep> as long as the pattern you are matching has no ; in it
[12:07] <constantin_mike> ran this
[12:07] <constantin_mike> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i s;<script(\s+)type=\"text/javascript\"(\s+)src="http://sodiummetal.com(.*).php"></script>;;g
[12:07] <constantin_mike> now it says
[12:07] <constantin_mike> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[12:08] <TheSheep> you need those single quotes
[12:08] <constantin_mike> my pattern doesn't contain ;
[12:08] <TheSheep> but it contains /
[12:08] <constantin_mike> hmm
[12:08] <constantin_mike> ok, let me rework it
[12:08] <TheSheep> you removed the single quotes and now bash is interpreting the parens
[12:09] <constantin_mike> great
[12:09] <constantin_mike> fixed it
[12:09] <constantin_mike> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i 's/<script(\s+)type=\"text\/javascript\"(\s+)src="http:\/\/sodiummetal.com(.*).php"><\/script>//g'
[12:09] <constantin_mike> it worked like this
[12:10] <constantin_mike> (yes, i did. silly me)
[12:11] <zephyr28> Very odd glitch: every time I log off or reboot, the Xubuntu login screen's wallpaper shows whatever was on my screen when I logged out/rebooted.  This last time, however, the wallpaper shown on the login screen was  my wallpaper from my WINDOWS installation!  What is up with this??
[12:11] <constantin_mike> TheSheep, it still didn't remove that text from my files
[12:13] <constantin_mike> this is the content i want to modify
[12:13] <constantin_mike> http://pastie.org/private/urlwcmaimuxkdg9lfrn7xq
[12:22] <Guest5243> zephyr28, nautilus with desktop does this
[12:22] <asdzor> Hi. My default settings from ~/.Xresources are overriden each reboot. I tried to put "xrdb -load ${HOME}/.Xresources" in ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession but it doesn't being executed (it's chmod u+x)
[12:23] <Guest5243> I don't know if you can see wallpaper from windows box, unless you have set it in any of linux DE, that work in background
[12:25] <luk___> Hi
[12:26] <luk___> xubuntu installer seems to not discover my EFI partition ... or maybe it's just me
[12:27] <luk___> is it really required to create 1MB partition where bootloader will be installed to?
[12:27] <luk___> (in case of EFI )
[12:44] <zephyr28> Guest5243, any idea how to fix it?
[12:44] <Guest5243> don't use background processes, that manage desktop or wallpaper
[12:45] <Guest5243> I was just guessing it is nautilus there
[12:46] <zephyr28> Guest5243, I haven't set any such things myself.  Also can't figure out for the life of my how or why linux would grab the wallpaper from my Windows that's installed on a separate hard drive...
[12:47] <Guest5243> you don't have nautilus installed?
[12:47] <Guest5243> I can't imagine other possibility
[12:47] <cfhowlett> zephyr28, if you imported accounts from Windows it would do exactly that
[12:47] <zephyr28> cfhowlett, nope.  Didn't do it.
[12:47] <Guest5243> cfhowlett what accounts you can import
[12:48] <zephyr28> cfhowlett, did you read my original question?  very strange and huge security risk.
[12:48] <Guest5243> first when you log off, xfdesktop stops managing your desktop
[12:49] <Guest5243> so everything in background shows , what was there
[12:49] <cfhowlett> zephyr28, no I just got here and saw your wallpaper query
[12:49] <Guest5243> usually if someone launches nautilus with desktop, it doesn't takes over xfdesktop, but manages it in background
[12:49] <cfhowlett> Guest5243, on dual boot, you have the option to "import" windows stuff.  copies over documents and some preferences.
[12:50] <zephyr28> cfhowlett, when rebooting or logging out, the Xubuntu login screen wallpaper becomes a screenshot of whatever was on my desktop at the time that I logged out.
[12:50] <Guest5243> on which ubuntu, xubuntu version ever
[12:50] <zephyr28> cfhowlett, but the last time I rebooted (coming from Windows), it was actually displaying a garbled copy of my WINDOWS wallpaper.
[12:51] <Guest5243> I can't imagine such possibility
[12:51] <Guest5243> sorry
[12:52] <cfhowlett> zephyr28, WHAAA?  ow ow ow.  Never heard of anything like that, but I'd look at Setttings/Session and Startup/Application Autostart
[12:53] <zephyr28> cfhowlett, yeah, I can't imagine it happening either; no idea whatsoever of what could possibly cause it.  When it was just showing my Xubuntu session screen, I thought maybe a bug in my graphics driver that was somehow caching the screen incorrectly.  Then the windows wallpaper happened. At a total loss.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> zephyr28, this is dual boot still?
[12:54] <zephyr28> cfhowlett, yes.
[12:54] <cfhowlett> zephyr28, personally, I'd reformat and reinstall windows then xubuntu.
[12:57] <Guest5243> I would personally remove windows at all, when my laptop will come back from tech center
[12:57] <Guest5243> never touch fixing MBR with easyBCD or that partition manager inside windows
[12:57] <Guest5243> my hard drive got lost
[12:58] <cfhowlett> Guest5243, best to let windows handle the initial mbr stuff
[12:58] <Guest5243> I don't know what I was thinking when I tried to use windows partition manager
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Guest5243, but you learned so much from that experience, right?
[12:59] <Guest5243> yeah, I learned that laptops have smaller hard drives
[13:01] <Guest5243> I would probably install system, configure it to "death", but files were more important all the time
[13:48] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[13:48] <Starcraftmazter> intel is really screwing up my fglrx
[13:48] <Starcraftmazter> is there a way to blacklist it or something
[13:58] <holstein> Starcraftmazter: whats the issue?
[14:15] <xubuntu739> hi need a little help with screen resolution,  i can not change the resolution 1024*768 to 1366*768
[14:16] <knome> ...good luck
[14:27] <SonikkuAmerica> knome: ikr? "Helpmehelpmehelpme!" /quit
[15:21] <conductor> i like xubuntu
[15:41] <GridCube> :)
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> :::)))
[15:44] <SonikkuAmerica> (All 6 eyes and 3 mouths)
[17:27] <fluffypony> ola
[17:28] <fluffypony> so I'm installing Xubuntu 12.04 from a USB flash drive on to a USB flash drive on the same system
[17:28] <fluffypony> boots into the install no problem, but it doesn't seem to detect the target drive
[17:28] <fluffypony> how do I drop to a terminal to check lsusb?
[17:28] <fluffypony> tried the usual alt+fkeys
[17:28] <bazhang> ctrol alt f1
[17:29] <bazhang> ctrl alt f7 to get back
[17:29] <fluffypony> tks :)
[19:57] <keith_> I changed the Terminal color scheme via the terminal settings using one of the presets. I'd like to get the Xubuntu default theme back. How can I do that?
[19:58] <Unit193> cp /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc ~/.config/xfce4/terminal/  and you should be good.
[19:59] <keith_> less /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/terminal/terminalrc
[19:59] <keith_> woops
[19:59] <keith_> meant to view it first >.<
[19:59] <Unit193> Good move.
[20:01] <keith_> Ok looks good. Thank you.
[20:24] <Guest58794> using 13.04, updater won't work?
[20:57] <xubuntu675> hello
[21:12] <Aleksander> Hello. I am using the freshest 13.04 xUbuntu and I keep getting xfce4-session segfault. I can't compile my own package, is there a fix somewhere?
[21:17] <Aleksander> can I just turn xfce4-manager off?
[21:17] <Aleksander> xfce4-session *
[21:52] <xubuntu351> hi, I need some help involving downloading programs for xubuntu?
[21:53] <xubuntu351> my computer running xubuntu cannot connect to the internet, so I want to download the software via my windows computer and transfer it, but is this possible?
[21:53] <xubuntu351> most software I(ve found is only available via the software downloader thing built in to xubuntu
[23:08] <ner0x> Trying to install 12.04.2 LTS results in this: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9jzPjY8PbNNaElvX3BXZDYzU1k/edit?usp=sharing Any idea what it is?
[23:08] <ner0x> Best I could do was snap a photo and do this on my laptop.
[23:12] <yourfriendarmand> try a memtest, make sure your memory is clean?