| Noskcaj | can someone take a look at bug 1177115 and bug 1177116 | 08:08 |
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| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1177115 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "New partition table confirmation is broken" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177115 | 08:08 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1177116 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "maximise button does nothing in Ubiquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177116 | 08:08 |
| Teduardo | Any chance that we'll get a new install kernel for 12.04 anytime soon which will support I217-V and I217-LM | 15:50 |
| Teduardo | ? | 15:50 |
| Teduardo | shows up as Intel Corporation Device 153a in 12.04 | 15:50 |
| Teduardo | it appears to work OK in 12.10 and 13.04 | 15:51 |
| Teduardo | Sorry, I mean netboot support | 15:53 |
| cjwatson | Do you know which kernel module supports it in 12.04? | 15:54 |
| Teduardo | looks like this is the already being discussed on it | 15:54 |
| Teduardo | http://markmail.org/message/3hvneffw3e5cy56a#query:+page:1+mid:3hvneffw3e5cy56a+state:results | 15:54 |
| Teduardo | just wondering if it will ever make it's way down into a netboot, got loads of laptops coming in without cds lol | 15:55 |
| Teduardo | heck yeah usb stick installs | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | have you tried the precise-updates netboot images? | 15:55 |
| Teduardo | this is the exact one that i just tried | 15:56 |
| Teduardo | wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | Try .../images/quantal-netboot/ instead | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | That's the backported 12.10 stack | 15:57 |
| Teduardo | that will install 12.04.2? | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | Yes | 15:57 |
| Teduardo | weird. | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | With a 12.10ish kernel | 15:57 |
| Teduardo | ahhhh | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | It's described in the link from the post you linked to above ... | 15:57 |
| Teduardo | is there any plan to kind of make the normal method function in the future? | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | Nope | 15:57 |
| Teduardo | anytime i've gone off of the beaten path it's been somewhat of a disaster; more so with debian but also sometimes with ubuntu | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | The quantal-netboot (and later raring-netboot etc.) images are fully supported | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | The 12.04ish netboot images are deliberately being preserved for people for whom the hardware enablement stacks break | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | But the quantal-netboot images correspond to what's shipped on 12.04.2 CD images | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | So a different answer: those are the normal method now :) | 15:59 |
| Teduardo | so it will install the quantal kernel or it will use the quantal kernel only to install the normal bits? | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | The former | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | Well, the version of the 3.5 kernel backported from quantal to precise | 16:00 |
| Teduardo | and there is really no down side of using a completely different kernel train in 12.04? | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | You'd have to ask #ubuntu-kernel about that ... I just deliver the bits | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | But if there's a downside, you're sharing it with everyone who installed 12.04.2 from scratch | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | Again, this is the kernel 12.04.2 ships with by default | 16:01 |
| Teduardo | so why couldnt we simply update the kernel/initrd on 12.04.2 netboot to you know have the right intel driver? just only works in 3.0.5? | 16:01 |
| Teduardo | err 3.5 i mean | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | 16:58 <cjwatson> The 12.04ish netboot images are deliberately being preserved for people for whom the hardware enablement stacks break | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | I could have chosen to rename netboot -> old-netboot or something instead, but I preferred new semantics => new name | 16:02 |
| Teduardo | ok and final question any chance you can give me the full path of the 12.04.2 netboot installer which has the newer kernel? | 16:02 |
| Teduardo | i couldn't find it given the breadcrumbs | 16:02 |
| Teduardo | sorry, i know i'm the worst | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/quantal-netboot/ | 16:03 |
| Teduardo | well the good news for you guys is that debian 7 doesnt work at all with haswell's nics, so that's fun =) | 16:04 |
| Teduardo | good work at least making an effort | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | well, I don't view us as being in competition with Debian; I'm a Debian developer too | 16:05 |
| Teduardo | ah... well.. alrighty i'll leave that one alone then =) | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | Their kernel guys are pretty dynamic so it wouldn't surprise me if a point release sorts that out | 16:05 |
| Teduardo | in 18 month | 16:06 |
| Teduardo | s | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | No, point release, not release. | 16:06 |
| Teduardo | no, i know; they almost never update their install images either | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | Not true. Point releases are much more frequent. | 16:06 |
| Teduardo | well then i'll check and see if deb7 has a new installer then =) | 16:08 |
| Teduardo | thanks! | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | It won't have yet, but wheezy only just released so the first point release is still in preparation. | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | Just saying that "almost never" is pretty astonishingly unfair. | 16:09 |
| Teduardo | Ahh, there was a 12 month lull between the 12th generation Dell server release and being able to install Debian 6 on an H710 | 16:09 |
| Teduardo | but i guess that doesn't mean almost never | 16:10 |
| Teduardo | and the broadcom nic silliness is a lot of fun too still | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | They did seven point releases over the lifetime of squeeze: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/errata | 16:10 |
| Teduardo | but yeah whatever it's free | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | Looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705959 is the bug to track | 16:17 |
| ubot2` | Debian bug 705959 in linux "Intel i210/i217 Ethernet adapters (igb drivers)" [Wishlist,Open] | 16:17 |
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| Teduardo | cool. | 17:20 |
| p3t3rk | For some reason, precise doesn't honor package pinnings during installation. Is there a way to specify in the preseed the installation of _only_ stable packages? | 20:21 |
| xnox | p3t3rk: what do you mean by stable packages? | 20:31 |
| xnox | p3t3rk: and during installation (using ubiquity or server/alternate installer) apt is not used, so pinnings are not honored. | 20:32 |
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