[08:08] <Noskcaj> can someone take a look at bug 1177115 and bug 1177116
[08:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1177115 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "New partition table confirmation is broken" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177115
[08:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1177116 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "maximise button does nothing in Ubiquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177116
[15:50] <Teduardo> Any chance that we'll get a new install kernel for 12.04 anytime soon which will support I217-V and I217-LM
[15:50] <Teduardo> ?
[15:50] <Teduardo> shows up as Intel Corporation Device 153a in 12.04
[15:51] <Teduardo> it appears to work OK in 12.10 and 13.04
[15:53] <Teduardo> Sorry, I mean netboot support
[15:54] <cjwatson> Do you know which kernel module supports it in 12.04?
[15:54] <Teduardo> looks like this is the already being discussed on it
[15:54] <Teduardo> http://markmail.org/message/3hvneffw3e5cy56a#query:+page:1+mid:3hvneffw3e5cy56a+state:results
[15:55] <Teduardo> just wondering if it will ever make it's way down into a netboot, got loads of laptops coming in without cds lol
[15:55] <Teduardo> heck yeah usb stick installs
[15:55] <cjwatson> have you tried the precise-updates netboot images?
[15:56] <Teduardo> this is the exact one that i just tried
[15:56] <Teduardo> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz
[15:56] <cjwatson> Try .../images/quantal-netboot/ instead
[15:57] <cjwatson> That's the backported 12.10 stack
[15:57] <Teduardo> that will install 12.04.2?
[15:57] <cjwatson> Yes
[15:57] <Teduardo> weird.
[15:57] <cjwatson> With a 12.10ish kernel
[15:57] <Teduardo> ahhhh
[15:57] <cjwatson> It's described in the link from the post you linked to above ...
[15:57] <Teduardo> is there any plan to kind of make the normal method function in the future?
[15:57] <cjwatson> Nope
[15:58] <Teduardo> anytime i've gone off of the beaten path it's been somewhat of a disaster; more so with debian but also sometimes with ubuntu
[15:58] <cjwatson> The quantal-netboot (and later raring-netboot etc.) images are fully supported
[15:58] <cjwatson> The 12.04ish netboot images are deliberately being preserved for people for whom the hardware enablement stacks break
[15:58] <cjwatson> But the quantal-netboot images correspond to what's shipped on 12.04.2 CD images
[15:59] <cjwatson> So a different answer: those are the normal method now :)
[16:00] <Teduardo> so it will install the quantal kernel or it will use the quantal kernel only to install the normal bits?
[16:00] <cjwatson> The former
[16:00] <cjwatson> Well, the version of the 3.5 kernel backported from quantal to precise
[16:00] <Teduardo> and there is really no down side of using a completely different kernel train in 12.04?
[16:00] <cjwatson> You'd have to ask #ubuntu-kernel about that ... I just deliver the bits
[16:01] <cjwatson> But if there's a downside, you're sharing it with everyone who installed 12.04.2 from scratch
[16:01] <cjwatson> Again, this is the kernel 12.04.2 ships with by default
[16:01] <Teduardo> so why couldnt we simply update the kernel/initrd on 12.04.2 netboot to you know have the right intel driver? just only works in 3.0.5?
[16:01] <Teduardo> err 3.5 i mean
[16:01] <cjwatson> 16:58 <cjwatson> The 12.04ish netboot images are deliberately being preserved for people for whom the hardware enablement stacks break
[16:02] <cjwatson> I could have chosen to rename netboot -> old-netboot or something instead, but I preferred new semantics => new name
[16:02] <Teduardo> ok and final question any chance you can give me the full path of the 12.04.2 netboot installer which has the newer kernel?
[16:02] <Teduardo> i couldn't find it given the breadcrumbs
[16:03] <Teduardo> sorry, i know i'm the worst
[16:03] <cjwatson> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/quantal-netboot/
[16:04] <Teduardo> well the good news for you guys is that debian 7 doesnt work at all with haswell's nics, so that's fun =)
[16:04] <Teduardo> good work at least making an effort
[16:05] <cjwatson> well, I don't view us as being in competition with Debian; I'm a Debian developer too
[16:05] <Teduardo> ah... well.. alrighty i'll leave that one alone then =)
[16:05] <cjwatson> Their kernel guys are pretty dynamic so it wouldn't surprise me if a point release sorts that out
[16:06] <Teduardo> in 18 month
[16:06] <Teduardo> s
[16:06] <cjwatson> No, point release, not release.
[16:06] <Teduardo> no, i know; they almost never update their install images either
[16:06] <cjwatson> Not true.  Point releases are much more frequent.
[16:08] <Teduardo> well then i'll check and see if deb7 has a new installer then =)
[16:08] <Teduardo> thanks!
[16:09] <cjwatson> It won't have yet, but wheezy only just released so the first point release is still in preparation.
[16:09] <cjwatson> Just saying that "almost never" is pretty astonishingly unfair.
[16:09] <Teduardo> Ahh, there was a 12 month lull between the 12th generation Dell server release and being able to install Debian 6 on an H710
[16:10] <Teduardo> but i guess that doesn't mean almost never
[16:10] <Teduardo> and the broadcom nic silliness is a lot of fun too still
[16:10] <cjwatson> They did seven point releases over the lifetime of squeeze: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/errata
[16:10] <Teduardo> but yeah whatever it's free
[16:17] <cjwatson> Looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705959 is the bug to track
[16:17] <ubot2`> Debian bug 705959 in linux "Intel i210/i217 Ethernet adapters (igb drivers)" [Wishlist,Open]
[17:20] <Teduardo> cool.
[20:21] <p3t3rk> For some reason, precise doesn't honor package pinnings during installation.  Is there a way to specify in the preseed the installation of _only_ stable packages?
[20:31] <xnox> p3t3rk: what do you mean by stable packages?
[20:32] <xnox> p3t3rk: and during installation (using ubiquity or server/alternate installer) apt is not used, so pinnings are not honored.