[08:08] can someone take a look at bug 1177115 and bug 1177116 [08:08] Launchpad bug 1177115 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "New partition table confirmation is broken" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177115 [08:08] Launchpad bug 1177116 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "maximise button does nothing in Ubiquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1177116 [15:50] Any chance that we'll get a new install kernel for 12.04 anytime soon which will support I217-V and I217-LM [15:50] ? [15:50] shows up as Intel Corporation Device 153a in 12.04 [15:51] it appears to work OK in 12.10 and 13.04 [15:53] Sorry, I mean netboot support [15:54] Do you know which kernel module supports it in 12.04? [15:54] looks like this is the already being discussed on it [15:54] http://markmail.org/message/3hvneffw3e5cy56a#query:+page:1+mid:3hvneffw3e5cy56a+state:results [15:55] just wondering if it will ever make it's way down into a netboot, got loads of laptops coming in without cds lol [15:55] heck yeah usb stick installs [15:55] have you tried the precise-updates netboot images? [15:56] this is the exact one that i just tried [15:56] wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/netboot.tar.gz [15:56] Try .../images/quantal-netboot/ instead [15:57] That's the backported 12.10 stack [15:57] that will install 12.04.2? [15:57] Yes [15:57] weird. [15:57] With a 12.10ish kernel [15:57] ahhhh [15:57] It's described in the link from the post you linked to above ... [15:57] is there any plan to kind of make the normal method function in the future? [15:57] Nope [15:58] anytime i've gone off of the beaten path it's been somewhat of a disaster; more so with debian but also sometimes with ubuntu [15:58] The quantal-netboot (and later raring-netboot etc.) images are fully supported [15:58] The 12.04ish netboot images are deliberately being preserved for people for whom the hardware enablement stacks break [15:58] But the quantal-netboot images correspond to what's shipped on 12.04.2 CD images [15:59] So a different answer: those are the normal method now :) [16:00] so it will install the quantal kernel or it will use the quantal kernel only to install the normal bits? [16:00] The former [16:00] Well, the version of the 3.5 kernel backported from quantal to precise [16:00] and there is really no down side of using a completely different kernel train in 12.04? [16:00] You'd have to ask #ubuntu-kernel about that ... I just deliver the bits [16:01] But if there's a downside, you're sharing it with everyone who installed 12.04.2 from scratch [16:01] Again, this is the kernel 12.04.2 ships with by default [16:01] so why couldnt we simply update the kernel/initrd on 12.04.2 netboot to you know have the right intel driver? just only works in 3.0.5? [16:01] err 3.5 i mean [16:01] 16:58 The 12.04ish netboot images are deliberately being preserved for people for whom the hardware enablement stacks break [16:02] I could have chosen to rename netboot -> old-netboot or something instead, but I preferred new semantics => new name [16:02] ok and final question any chance you can give me the full path of the 12.04.2 netboot installer which has the newer kernel? [16:02] i couldn't find it given the breadcrumbs [16:03] sorry, i know i'm the worst [16:03] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/quantal-netboot/ [16:04] well the good news for you guys is that debian 7 doesnt work at all with haswell's nics, so that's fun =) [16:04] good work at least making an effort [16:05] well, I don't view us as being in competition with Debian; I'm a Debian developer too [16:05] ah... well.. alrighty i'll leave that one alone then =) [16:05] Their kernel guys are pretty dynamic so it wouldn't surprise me if a point release sorts that out [16:06] in 18 month [16:06] s [16:06] No, point release, not release. [16:06] no, i know; they almost never update their install images either [16:06] Not true. Point releases are much more frequent. [16:08] well then i'll check and see if deb7 has a new installer then =) [16:08] thanks! [16:09] It won't have yet, but wheezy only just released so the first point release is still in preparation. [16:09] Just saying that "almost never" is pretty astonishingly unfair. [16:09] Ahh, there was a 12 month lull between the 12th generation Dell server release and being able to install Debian 6 on an H710 [16:10] but i guess that doesn't mean almost never [16:10] and the broadcom nic silliness is a lot of fun too still [16:10] They did seven point releases over the lifetime of squeeze: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/errata [16:10] but yeah whatever it's free [16:17] Looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705959 is the bug to track [16:17] Debian bug 705959 in linux "Intel i210/i217 Ethernet adapters (igb drivers)" [Wishlist,Open] === plars is now known as plars-afk === plars-afk is now known as plars [17:20] cool. [20:21] For some reason, precise doesn't honor package pinnings during installation. Is there a way to specify in the preseed the installation of _only_ stable packages? [20:31] p3t3rk: what do you mean by stable packages? [20:32] p3t3rk: and during installation (using ubiquity or server/alternate installer) apt is not used, so pinnings are not honored.