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dfdfdfdhi all01:03
dfdfdfdi need help please01:04
dfdfdfdcan somone help me please01:06
dfdfdfddose anyone know about the the software called UNETBOOTING01:07
redtape|renegadeMorning ... sun's up .. moon gone away .. gotta have a system !04:35
redtape|renegadeOT | Damn ! Missed A Macbook Air for £172 incl delivery off an Aucktion site .  http://r.ebay.com/POIAD4  | and it was 13 inch .. (phooey!)  | I'm counting on this one to get me out of No-Ubuntu-Laptop-Hell ::: http://r.ebay.com/xOx20e ::: Mostly 'cos it's got orange though.04:58
* redtape|renegade rediscovers the Mighty Boosh at 6am ..04:59
redtape|renegadeOT | All-Time Classic M.B.sh  phrase ... " You've gone wrong !" |  http://youtu.be/KxNeQ4JhSBY?t=11m19s05:07
redtape|renegadeI want this website ::: http://www.voice.tel/05:27
redtape|renegadeSod it ! :: I'm registering :: www.­ubuntu.­tel ::  .. probably have the friggin' PLC by 14.04 .. i.e. next April ~05:30
redtape|renegadeHas anyone got any good RSS links for me to have a reason for  putting 'Opera' Browser on my netbook .. must be a Linux RSS page somewhere ?05:32
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knightwisemorning06:40
dwatkinsmornin07:02
diploMorning all07:17
AlanBellmorning07:21
AlanBellone egg laid today \o/ http://hencam.libertus.co.uk/07:21
MooDoomorning all07:47
brobostigongood morning everyone,08:11
MooDoomorning08:12
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:13
christelone egg! you've nearly got enough for an omelette!08:13
christel(morning)08:13
brobostigonmorning miss christel08:13
czajkowski21 eggs here if anyone wants some08:15
brobostigonallergies.08:16
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christelczajkowski: see that's more like it! you could make a whole omelette and some cakes!08:16
christel;)08:16
czajkowskiindeed08:16
christelmmmcake.08:16
MooDooyum08:17
czajkowskiI made a Mahooosive omlette recently in order to use up a lot08:17
czajkowskithen some pancakes08:17
czajkowskithen gave more away08:17
christel:D08:17
czajkowskiand still had some08:17
christelAlanBell: i think your chickens have escaped, i am unable to locate them!08:18
* czajkowski has let her 3 crazy hens out into the garden to roam around for the day 08:22
czajkowskielse they whinge08:22
MooDooyou need a hen cam like alan :)08:23
brobostigonsomeone at the quiz at my local last night, said i exude love for my gf, this is surprising, as i didnt know you could exude a feeling.08:24
AlanBellchristel: yeah, I am going to cut a bigger window later so the camera can see into the run properly08:29
czajkowskiMooDoo: we did :)08:31
czajkowskiwe had the cam first :)08:31
christelAlanBell: :D08:32
brobostigonthe world can be confusing.08:32
czajkowskibrobostigon: the world is simple, people make it confusing.08:32
brobostigonczajkowski: the world obays the rules of physics, but yes i agree, people make it confusing.08:35
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:41
MooDoomorning08:42
bigcalmI'm in shock that it is Friday08:42
bigcalmThis is what happens when one has Monday and Tuesday as holiday08:42
bigcalmCan I buy extra week days from somewhere?08:43
brobostigonmorning bigcalm08:44
MooDoobigcalm: alas no08:45
bigcalmHo hum08:53
bigcalmOn the plus side, as it is Saturday tomorrow, I get to have a much needed haircut08:56
bigcalmOn the down side, I'm going to a florist's this evening to look at flowers for our wedding09:00
bigcalmTypo on wedding as weeding just then :)09:00
dwatkinsA Freudian slip?09:07
MooDoojust wait till you get the wedding ring on, IT BURNS ;) lol09:08
bigcalm:D09:10
bigcalmI wants it now09:11
diploI only wore my wedding ring for 3 weeks :)09:11
directhexi feel weird without mine on09:11
directhexbut if it's hot and i can't take it off, i FREAK OUT09:11
diploI'm a lefty, and it never felt right on it, when I had the engagement ring that was fine :)09:12
bigcalmNo engagement ring for me09:12
dwatkinsI'd be concerned about my hands expanding for whatever reason - you can have rings made bigger, mind.09:13
JamesTaitGood morning all you lovely people, happy Friday and happy Doughnut Day! :-D09:22
bigcalmDoughnut Day?09:23
JamesTaitIndeed.09:24
bigcalmI wonder if I can use that excuse for getting a Krispy Kreme doughnut from Tesco09:26
JamesTaitbigcalm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Doughnut_Day It's on the internet, it must be true.09:26
bigcalmGoodness me!09:27
bigcalmIt must be true indeed09:27
bigcalmI doubt that Hayley would like me to call her a doughnut dolly09:29
bigcalmThough she is my tea fairy today :D09:29
JamesTaitHayley is your servant girl? ;)09:30
christelbigcalm: krispy kreme saddens me09:31
christelthey dont seem to do the ones that are filled with "just" kreme anymore09:31
christeland they were my favourite :(09:31
bigcalmAwwwww09:31
JamesTaitI don't intentionally make my wife a servant girl, but I don't complain when she does it herself.  I like to think I'm quite appreciative, in fact.09:31
bigcalmJamesTait: whenever she is at home, she's kind enough to bring me mugs of tea when she also fancies a brew (which is always)09:32
JamesTaitWhich is nice.09:32
JamesTaitThe way it should be.09:32
bigcalmIt does have the side effect of me not getting many brakes from the keyboard09:32
JamesTaitThis is true.09:33
JamesTaitBut then nature kicks in to resolve that.09:33
bigcalmHeh09:34
christeli clearly need a wife09:39
christelto bring me cups of coffee09:39
brobostigonyummy, coffee :)09:39
brobostigoni am training my gf, in making good coffee, with real coffee in my perculator, :)09:40
christelExcellent! when you finish training her can i have her?09:40
brobostigonno.09:40
brobostigonshe prefers tea, so i make tea, happy all round.09:41
christelboo :(09:46
diplotea FTW!09:46
diploDirty dirty coffee!09:46
christeli dont like tea :(09:47
christelwell, i quite like a spot of hogsback T.E.A09:47
bigcalmHeh09:47
brobostigonchristel: she all mine, get your own, :)09:47
christelhrmph!09:48
davmor2the only teas I like are nettle and peppermint (for tummy upsets) and liquorice hmmmmmmm09:49
Seeker`chocolate chip tea is goooooooooooooooooooooooood09:52
Seeker`http://www.adagio.uk.com/flavors/chocolate_chip.html09:53
christelSeeker`: now you're just being weird!09:53
christel:P09:53
Seeker`christel: 'now'? :P09:53
christel;)09:53
davmor2Seeker`: I think christel just missed a more out of that sentence to be honest09:55
Seeker`nah, nothing particularly weird about chocolate chip tea09:56
czajkowskigrim09:56
MooDoochristel: you really are nuts09:57
christelMooDoo: because i dont drink chcoolate chip tea? :o09:57
MooDoochristel: hell no just in general09:58
MooDoo;)09:58
davmor2MooDoo: I think you'll find that czajkowski is nuttier09:58
MooDoodavmor2: yeah but i like czajkowski ;)09:58
czajkowskivanilla tea !09:58
MooDoodeep fried marsbars o/ ftw09:59
christeldavmor2: this is very true, compared to czajkowski i am very non-nutty!09:59
MooDoochristel: but we love you too :)09:59
* czajkowski tickles christel hello darling 10:00
davmor2MooDoo: you know you're in a public channel saying you like czajkowski right this wasn't a private chat ;) /me hugs czajkowski cus he knows how much she likes it10:01
MooDoodavmor2: I don't care, the whole world can know czajkowski and christel ROCK ;)10:02
christelczajkowski: HELLO PRETTYCAKES <310:03
davmor2MooDoo: shhhhhh they're not meant to know they ROCK!!!!  now how are they gonna get their heads through doorways ;)10:05
MooDoolol10:07
davmor2Happy unofficial Turing day everyone.......I wonder if we can makes this roll so much that we get another bank holiday.....make it so government !!!!!10:08
bigcalmGood luck with that10:16
dwatkinsMake it sew10:23
Laneyjames naughtie sounds like he's about to throw up10:32
Laneyintroducing the queen10:32
czajkowskiLaney: why is he introducing the queue10:38
czajkowskialso who is he ?10:38
Laneyon radio 4 atm10:38
Laneyshe was opening their new building10:39
dwatkinsI'd be nervous interoducing any member of the royal family.10:39
dwatkinsWas she actually being interviewed as well?10:39
Laneyhaha, don't be silly10:39
Laneyshe just gave a little speech10:39
dwatkinsyeah, I didn't think she allowed for cross-examination10:40
Laneybah11:05
Laneyjust dropped my full cup of tea made with the last drops of milk11:06
dwatkins:(11:06
MooDoopah11:06
dwatkinsdon't cry11:06
* dwatkins runs11:06
MooDooclumsy oaf ;)11:06
* awilkins drinks tea with no milk since student houses never had any - habit has persisted since uni11:23
awilkinsMilkless tea tastes more like tea anyway11:23
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dwatkinsI upgraded from Oneric to Precise yesterday, and discovered that resolvconf exists and had to learn about it before I could get internets.12:23
diploheh, got it working then dwatkins12:23
* MooDoo is using LTS on his laptop :D12:24
dwatkinsPerhaps I should just set my server to use DHCP and give it a static IP on the router via its MAC address, though.12:24
redtape|renegadeOT | I was wondering if any of the 'over-sized' shoppers here .. that use 'Jacamo' have been happy with the UK Firm, or if anyone knows any only *3XL* clothes stores online ? (i.e. I am asking : ... Where do **You** buy fat clothes ??)12:24
dwatkinsyeah, diplo - the install would do a bunch of stuff then sit at a "do you want to change your SQL passwd?" and other such things, but completed eventually, everything except squid seems ok.12:24
dwatkinsWhat is the current LTS? Is there a rule to which versions are considered long-term?12:24
MooDoodwatkins: 12.04.1 isn't it12:25
dwatkinsfor reference, this is what I probably need to do to resolvconf at very least: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf12:25
dwatkinsMooDoo: yeah, this was my first minimum stop-gap version12:25
diploah yes I had that as well dwatkins, why the upgrade took so long :)12:25
MooDooredtape|renegade: do you have any big and tall shops in your area?  and it's called "big and tall" lol12:25
redtape|renegadeMooDoo I already know that .. who doesn't. .. And No there aren't at all .. it was purposefully meant to be for ***ON-LINE*** anyone know anything else ? (usefull)..12:27
MooDoooh sorry12:28
redtape|renegadeheaven sake , I'm resorting to football shirts for Bromley that just happen to be 3XL for @uck sake .. I'm getting to think its a conspiracy if 'can't.'12:29
redtape|renegade** of 'can't' .. soz12:33
dwatkinsI only know of Long Tall Sally, which I assume doesn't help you, redtape|renegade - they're listed here, though, http://www.tallclub.co.uk/?page_id=3012:35
redtape|renegadeopening .. be prob.ly have .. QUESTION : Even peeking for under my dope hat .. Am I the only fat bloke in the chatroom ?12:37
dwatkinsdepends on your definition12:38
dwatkinsI have lost about 15% of my body weight since starting this keto diet.12:39
dwatkinsI'm still heavier than I want to be, but it's made a huge difference.12:39
diploI was quite heavy till my wife left me, but also fairly tall12:45
diploLost about 4-5 stone now12:45
redtape|renegadedwatkins: definition (?) .. I guess this is the industry's standard :: http://bit.ly/Fatbloke12:46
dwatkinsthanks for the slightly NSFW picture, redtape|renegade ;)12:47
dwatkinsI was referring to the definition of "over weight" or possibly "obesce", I don't know either, though.12:47
redtape|renegade.. that's OK .. It's my stockbroker anyway .. he cheers for the home team anyway, I know that .. so no bad vibes'   .12:48
* daftykins sips at a caramel Latte13:06
daftykinswell well, it's warm today13:06
redtape|renegadedaftykins: your a life saver for my boredom .. How's *your* island today ?13:07
daftykinsnot too bad thanks! albeit the usual crowd of fools clothes-lining the highstreet so you can't get past ;)13:07
daftykinsand yours?13:08
redtape|renegadeTT's gone ballistic again ..13:08
daftykinsooh is it race time already?13:08
dwatkinsis Mir any different from X11 from the user's perspective, or are all the changes under the hood?13:09
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awilkinsDoes Mir fix composite texture tearing on dual screens / nvidia hardware (is the thing I mostly care about)13:11
daftykinsAzelphur: are ye alive?13:11
redtape|renegadeWhy would you summon an X-boxer ?13:14
daftykinsa what? :)13:14
redtape|renegadexbox.er13:14
daftykinsi hear he has setup source dedicated servers before13:14
daftykinsi must pick his brains13:14
redtape|renegadeahh .. you know who to hastle .. I see .. well done.13:15
daftykins;)13:15
daftykinsredtape|renegade: soo... you not got a place of work to be?13:15
diplodaftykins: I used to host some, been a few years now though13:15
redtape|renegadeI'm really trying to get a Macbook Air .. Place of work ..13:15
redtape|renegade??13:16
dwatkinsis that a question or a statement?13:16
* redtape|renegade excuses himswelf while he nearly pukes in his moyuth .. (PLace of Work) .. (does it exiist ??)13:16
daftykinsdiplo: it seems to have all gone pretty confusing, not that i've ever tried before. basically i was helping this guy to try and set up one to host goldeneye source or this mod 'the hidden'13:17
dwatkinsyour mouth might not exist?13:17
redtape|renegadedwatkins: I was toalking about daftykins 's bold assumption that I might wish to be subjugated by a boss .. he know's me not well, ahem.13:18
daftykinsredtape|renegade: self employed by some variety then? :)13:18
daftykinsbrb13:19
* redtape|renegade 's main source is bitcoin and cfd's. .. usu. the MIB .. cough.13:19
diploWasn't overly problematic to set one up from memory, as I say it's been a couple of years since I hosted one13:19
daftykinsso you're a dirty benefit thief? :D13:19
redtape|renegadeno . I live off my interest ..13:20
redtape|renegadeI own a trust company.13:20
redtape|renegadebrb..13:20
diploJust looking at a site on install, seems fairly similar13:21
redtape|renegadedaftykins: Perhaps yur right, I get guilty sometimes .. only thing I've paid is V.A.T. in 10 years to the Guvn'er.13:27
redtape|renegadebut my accountant says it's a good tax strategy.. anyway.13:27
redtape|renegadeI just keep seeing Red Tape about paying people .. and react against it ..13:28
redtape|renegadeProb.ly why I'm a renegade against redtape, dunno ?13:29
* redtape|renegade is wondering why Mr Pope-ster hasn't said Allo , today | Is he still on a Canal Boat on the Panama canal ?13:38
daftykinsdiplo: i was trying the hldsupdatetool thing, which downloads a 'steam' script/program which you run, but that got nowhere because it tries to connect to IPs and keeps timing out13:41
diploGot the ports open it needs etc ?13:42
daftykinsdiplo: as a client downloader surely it doesn't need any13:43
diploYou run ./steam yeah and that's where it fails ?13:43
daftykinsyep13:43
daftykinsstrace on it shows it just sits there and keeps timing out hitting some hardcoded IPs13:44
diploSo you run ./steam -command update -game hl2mp ?13:44
daftykinswell apparently even ./steam on its' own should update itself then spit out a command list, but yeah even extra stuff sits and does nothing13:44
diploI could try running one, not a firewall issue at all ?13:45
daftykinsno firewall on this guy's ubuntu server box13:45
daftykinsi could try and DMZ his server IP to see if that'll change anything13:45
diploMaybe worth a try ?13:46
diploCould run it on a server here to try if you get no where13:47
daftykinsi could try it on my VPS too - see if it is restricted by being behind a home router in this guy's case13:48
daftykinsas a VM did the same for me, but again behind a router13:48
diploI can't see it being the cause but maybe13:48
daftykinsyeah i figured it was a client downloader13:48
daftykinsok just configured his server to be the DMZ endpoint13:49
daftykinsno change on the program13:49
daftykinsi was wondering whether 'SteamCMD' had replaced SRCDS13:49
diploI did just read about that13:50
daftykinsthat one did install and run, though from there i had no idea which 'game' app to install to be able to run these game mods this guy wants to use13:50
diplohl2mp I think for golden eye13:51
daftykinsyarr13:51
daftykinsi managed to get it to download that13:51
daftykinsi figure this srcds one must just be deprecated13:51
daftykinsstrace'ing it shows:13:51
daftykinsconnect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27038), sin_addr=inet_addr("69.28.153.82")}, 1613:51
daftykinsit has a few more hardcoded IPs which all time out eventually13:52
diploIf you read the top of the page of hlds it explained that it will provide an out of date server and to use steamcmd if it does13:52
diploJust read it myself :)13:52
daftykinswhich page is that?13:53
diplohldsupdate tool page13:54
redtape|renegadedwatkinS :  Thanks for the heads'up on that big&tall-club webpage .. just bought these :: http://www.bigdudeclothing.co.uk/rockford-kingsize-dirty-denim-jeans/ ::13:55
diploBecause they are now using steampipe which is their Content strea stuff13:55
* redtape|renegade comes over alll funny & puts on a Ringo Star voice/accent and saying .. "gear!"13:55
* redtape|renegade facepalms.13:55
daftykinsdiplo: doh, never read that page13:55
daftykinsor that line rather13:55
diploheh me either to after i went to another page13:56
daftykinsah well i got steamCMD going and hl2mp down - so just have to work out how to run one of the mods13:57
daftykinsthere appear to be no modern guides for the other mod this guy wanted to run13:57
diploOn that developer pages/wiki it explained how to load a mod I'm sure I saw13:58
diploSo something like srcfs -console -game gesoruce -ip <> -port <> -maxplayers # +map <name>14:00
diplosrcds*14:00
redtape|renegadedaftykins: I have a question later about : How do I *correctly* load Quake 2 maps (yes on Quake 2) .. 'cos so far I've failed...14:02
daftykinsvia the game console?14:02
daftykins'map mapname' surely14:02
redtape|renegadenope14:02
redtape|renegadeI have tried that .. but no luck ..14:02
redtape|renegade..14:02
redtape|renegadeit does say ..14:02
daftykinswhat does it do?14:02
redtape|renegadeThis will load on next map opening .. but doesn't...14:03
redtape|renegadeand yes the maps are in the right directory location ..14:03
daftykinsthere might have been some server commands required14:04
redtape|renegadefor a solo map ?14:04
daftykinsyeah14:04
redtape|renegadeoh right .. ok14:04
daftykinstechnically when you're playing single player it's running a local game server14:04
redtape|renegadeprrey do tell..14:04
redtape|renegadeoh ok14:04
daftykinshttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/archived/Game-Server-HOWTO/quake2.html14:05
daftykinsgoogle tells all14:05
redtape|renegadeopening..14:05
redtape|renegadecrumbs .. I just usu. use the winblows box for Quake 2 ..14:06
daftykinshmm that's mostly multiplayer14:06
* redtape|renegade has yet to find a proper editor on linux for maps .. but perhaps that's my problem ?14:07
daftykinsto make a quake map?14:07
redtape|renegadeAye.14:07
daftykinshmm no idea about that14:07
daftykinsonly time i ever tried mapping i ran what got renamed 'Hammer' for Half-Life 114:08
daftykins"map filename" definitely seems to be all you need to run14:08
daftykinstry including the file extension?14:08
daftykinsa good test was always the loading screen demos14:08
daftykinsmap demo1.dm214:08
redtape|renegadeyeah, I like the engine (HL).. but I'm still stuck in 2001 for FPS's ... I'll try that command .. hangon ..14:09
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redtape|renegadedaftykins: Got it sorted now , thanks man .. Here's a screen of the diehard map.. ::::: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/2013-06-07_1535_quake_2_F1_key.png :::::14:39
daftykins^_^14:39
daftykinsthat's old school14:39
daftykinswow the weapon model looks bad14:39
redtape|renegadei just like the basics .. i.e. they All die...14:40
dwatkinsI much prefer Quake 1 for various reasons - especially as there's fuhquake for online playing.14:40
SuperMattQuake 2 was always my favourite14:41
redtape|renegadeI know , I am with you on that one , or at least I used to be .. I just found in game **smooth edge*** animations 'in game-play' fascinating .. still do ..14:41
redtape|renegadeSuperMatt .. U a Quaker 2 too ?14:42
DJonesAh, thats a good days work, replacement server built and running smoothly14:44
daftykinsDJones: only one? ;)14:45
redtape|renegadeDJones: There is no spoon ...14:46
DJonesdaftykins: Yes thankfully14:46
diplodaftykins: Get it working in the end with the mod ?14:46
daftykinsdiplo: ah well i spotted the hl2mp had down'd ~/source/ which has the files in, including srcds_linux and srcds_run script but both error, so i need to go and read about how to do it properly but i've not done that yet :D moved onto other fun things14:48
diploheh14:50
daftykinsamazed that nobody has a working guide online14:50
daftykinswell actually i might not have searched for that with the steamCMD14:50
daftykinsso nm, shall give that a whirl later perhaps14:50
dogmatic69where can I access wine files (eg: C:/...14:53
daftykinsas in where does it store them?14:54
daftykins~/.wine/... probably14:54
dogmatic69daftykins: that is the one, thanks.14:54
daftykinsnp14:55
bigcalmI keep seeing "Postal 2" in my game list on Steam but read it as "Portal 2". Every time I am disappointed14:56
daftykinsaww14:59
daftykinsdo you not have it?14:59
daftykinsactually it appears i no longer do either15:00
dwatkinsI thought only Portal [1] was ported to Linux.15:01
redtape|renegadePostal is also a brilliant franchise.15:03
bigcalmPortal has been ported, Portal 2 has not15:04
* redtape|renegade wonders if someone like Ryan Gordon should be contacted about this ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Gordon15:05
redtape|renegadeor perhaps these guys ? http://www.liflg.org/15:07
dwatkinsI noted earlier that Serious Sam 3 has been ported to Linux, also - see the latest Humble Bundle15:08
diploafaik he's helped out with some stuff already for quite a few game studios15:08
diplodwatkins: yeah Ive got it at home15:08
diploPlays quite well15:08
redtape|renegadeyeah, I talk to him on G+ , but he's a bit tricky to get along with ..15:08
redtape|renegadebit reclusive and well, he's nintendo-er & all i got my kicks off was a sega game gear .. so it's prickly at times..15:10
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redtape|renegadehas anyone seen that Omnio -whootsit yet ? http://kck.st/11UpnXa15:12
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redtape|renegadeApparently, the local pub landlord has bought one .. oh dear .15:13
* redtape|renegade imagine's 60 years olds, heavily intoxicated playing some version of dad's army after closing .. perhaps there will be 'pub platoons' crikey !15:15
redtape|renegade( no-one jumping on that thread ?)15:20
daftykinsforums make me sad15:22
redtape|renegademm . some do .. depends if it's phpBB or not .. (XDA-developers being the exception)15:23
daftykinsi just feel my life is slipping away when trying to use them15:23
daftykinssoooo slow15:23
redtape|renegadeI wouldn't mind , but the font text size changes all of my posts on some forums dependig on the month .. very annoying ..15:24
redtape|renegade.. try .. so .. hard .. to .. post .. in .. a articulate .. manner .. ( usu. flatline in the end).15:25
daftykinsugh gotta pay my parish fees15:37
daftykinsbut i'm 7 minutes too late for the office and the deadline was today15:37
daftykins...oops15:37
redtape|renegadesurely you can attach a nice bottle of plonk in the pdf-cheque can't you ? Seems to work here ..15:38
daftykinshaha15:39
daftykinsthey're stuffed if they think they're getting anything like that out of me15:40
daftykins£200/yr just for owning a house is a joke already15:40
redtape|renegadeparishes  .. Crickey, they'll be regulating treens next ..15:40
daftykinsi just paid them 9k for buying it =|15:40
redtape|renegadeMy mum's got one up on the local parish ..15:41
daftykins:o15:42
redtape|renegadeShe talked to the local vicar .. (76y.o.a  nearly deaf) .. and asked if she could be buried in the local parish Kirk ..15:42
redtape|renegadestrictly it's against 'Cannon law' to sell plots ..15:42
daftykins0o15:43
redtape|renegadehowever .. because she has a receipt ' now framed on the wall' .. with a tax code .. they cant stop her ..15:43
daftykinshah15:43
redtape|renegadeWe keep having a laugh .. and saying ..15:43
daftykinsi wouldn't want to waste the islands surface area with a plot personally15:43
redtape|renegademaybe we should sub-let the plot and give titles like they do in Scottish backwaters to dukes etc .. As it's on religious grounds .. she's thinking of selling titles like 'fairey god mothers of patrick' etc ..15:45
redtape|renegadedaftykins: That's the whole point .. after 999 years they get recycled .. but she has a receipt so they cannot !15:46
daftykinsD:15:46
redtape|renegadeI'm trying to convince her to set up a wifi so everyone can have a proper network when grieving ..15:47
redtape|renegade.. get this .. we are calling it TPB .. the perpituity broadband ..15:48
redtape|renegadeand technically they cant close it down .. because we'll always have cannon law on her side ..15:48
Seeker`I have no idea what you are talking about15:48
daftykinsSeeker`: safer that way15:49
redtape|renegadeloopy .. but quite possible..15:49
Seeker`having a receipt for something that can't be sold doesn't mean you own it.15:49
redtape|renegadeSeeker : As the dude says .. yur obviosly not a golfer .. so shut it, mate .. she does .. forever.15:50
Seeker`excuse me?15:50
daftykinsSeeker`: island law tends to be a tad different, so it's not worth entering into15:50
redtape|renegadeOT | I'll just put on my tea .. and try to get remotely on topic .. before CH4 news comes on ...15:51
Seeker`daftykins: it was the "so shut it, mate" which I was questioning. Seems a bit rude.15:51
daftykinsSeeker`: yeah, don't take it personally. i believe it's called humour15:52
^aDaMAm I right in doing this? I have downloaded 13.04 of Ubuntu just now then downloaded UNetbootin and pointed it to the .ISO > E (USB Pen Drive).16:28
^aDaMNow the files are copying!16:28
brobostigonyou might want to add some persistance aswell.16:28
^aDaMbrobostigon ouchh, ive already started copying them.16:29
^aDaMHow much persistance do I need to add?16:29
brobostigonyou can kill it, and you should be able to restart it fine.16:29
^aDaMmmm16:29
brobostigonhowever much you will want in more perminant sotorage on it.16:29
^aDaMShell I redo :/16:30
brobostigonit shouldnt do any harm,16:30
^aDaMmmm well I have reformatted the Pen Drive.16:30
^aDaMhow much shell I add to this what values brobostigon :)16:31
^aDaMMB even :)16:31
brobostigon^aDaM: as i said, depends on how big the usb drive is, and how much you will want in more perminant storage, i cant tell you, on ly you will know.16:31
^aDaMahh I see !16:32
^aDaMits 7GB16:32
brobostigonok.16:32
^aDaM250mb ? to be safe :D16:33
brobostigonok, the image is just under 1gb isnt it? so you will then have 5.75gb of space doing zilch.16:34
daftykinspersistence is only if you're going to run from that drive permanently16:35
daftykinsis that what you're after?16:35
brobostigonquite.16:35
daftykinsif it's just to install, then there's no reason really16:35
brobostigonagreed.16:35
* daftykins steps off brobostigon's toes and goes to make a drink :)16:35
^aDaMok :) thxx16:39
brobostigondaftykins: coffee sounds good, :)16:39
^aDaM2 sugers daftykins ta ;)16:39
* ^aDaM is currently eating a Magnum ...16:40
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redtape|renegade^aDaM: Careful .. those things 'll bloww yer head off .. but the Question is ..16:43
redtape|renegadeDo You Feel Lucky Pnk ?16:43
awilkinsbrobostigon, the LiveCD format is FAT32, so you can keep other files on it16:43
awilkinsbrobostigon, I used to partition them, but there are caveats to that16:43
^aDaMLOL16:43
awilkinsYou have to put the FAT32 "file exchange" partition first or Windows can't see it16:44
brobostigonawilkins: yes, i knew, but to make it easier for ^aDaM , unetbootin has it built in to create that persistence.16:44
^aDaMcan I boot and install it on a hdd that i have formatted? also I would want to dual boot.16:45
brobostigonthat live media can do an install, yes.16:45
awilkinsYup, one of the features of a Live install is installing onto others16:45
^aDaMahh nice16:45
^aDaMSo if I disconnect this hdd? with windows.16:45
^aDaMan connect formatted one an do install16:45
^aDaMthen once installed an updated16:46
^aDaMconnect them both backup will it ask what os to boot ?16:46
awilkinsYou'd have to update the grub menu16:46
^aDaMmmm16:46
brobostigonwhen the installer installs grub, and it only sees the ubuntu partition, that will set it self to boot off that.16:46
awilkinsIf the Windows volume isn't connected when you install, it won't know about it16:47
^aDaMahh ok ok16:47
^aDaMso how would I dual boot with 2 hdd's16:47
^aDaMI want to add my second one16:47
brobostigontell your bios to boot off the one with grub, and then if you installed and it saw your windows disk, grub will be able to boot between both.16:48
awilkinsConnect both, install ubuntu, put Grub on the boot drive that's configured in your BIOS, it will pick up the WIndows volume and list it in Grub16:48
awilkinsIt even gives you a longer grub menu timeout if you have 2 or more OSs16:48
^aDaM:D awilkins an brobostigon thanks :)16:49
brobostigon:)16:49
^aDaMSo shell I do it the way brobostigon said? to save anything be messed up on my Windows disk?16:49
awilkinsCaveats : if you have full disk encryption on Windows, that may break it16:49
^aDaMyes!16:49
awilkinsBackups always a good idea16:49
^aDaMawilkins hahahahaha16:50
^aDaMI have programmes16:50
brobostigoncertainly, always play safe.16:50
^aDaMtoo many16:50
awilkinsBackups are a good idea even if you're NOT dual booting things16:50
^aDaMim risky16:50
dwatkinsyes, backups16:50
dwatkins^aDaM: if the disk fails tomorrow, will you miss its contents?16:50
^aDaM:16:50
awilkinsYeah, the downside is a few extra quidbucks in hardware16:50
awilkinsThe upside is not going ooooohhhh... dear16:50
dwatkinswhat awilkins said16:51
^aDaMlol16:51
^aDaMgoing for fresh install on single hdd16:51
awilkinsWindows in particular is a real PITA to reinstall things on just because so many things have DRM16:51
^aDaMan will connect my sata's when needed ;)16:51
awilkinsGames ... with activation limits16:52
dwatkinscan you deactivate them, awilkins?16:52
awilkinsdwatkins, Some of them16:52
awilkinsBut not after they went "poof" because you nuked your windows install accidentally16:52
^aDaMthat sucks16:52
awilkinsThis is why I like Steam and similar16:53
^aDaMI have Steam :)16:53
dwatkinsawilkins: indeed, at least in some cases you can request additional activations16:53
^aDaMawilkins add mee what games you play?16:53
awilkinsThey might be DRM but they are DRM that provides some useful features16:53
awilkinsPlanetside 2 a lot ATM16:53
dwatkinsalso, Steam has sales16:53
^aDaMNice :)16:53
^aDaMBB16:53
^aDaMtime me yall16:53
^aDaM175316:53
dwatkinsBB?16:53
^aDaMbe back16:54
^aDaMoff to install16:54
^aDaM1754.. need to dig hddd out yet16:54
dwatkinsgz16:54
dwatkins;)16:54
awilkinsRight, time to wend my wicked way home16:55
* daftykins brings in the coffees16:55
* dwatkins issues chmod 666 awilkins 16:55
awilkinsThere really should be more cheerleaders on the motorway "Yeah, keep up the spirit, the traffic jam will be over soon, wooooh!"16:55
dwatkinsawilkins: got Waze?16:55
* brobostigon thanks daftykins :)16:55
dwatkins"It looks like you're in a traffic jam..."16:56
daftykinsawilkins: or less cars, one or the other ;)16:56
awilkinsYeah, half-lane cars would be good16:56
dwatkinsit's almost clippy-like, but with actul functionality16:56
awilkinsI like the Lit  Motors C1 for looks16:56
awilkinsAnd the recent news about Lithium-Sulphur batteries raised my optimism level tremendously today16:56
dwatkinsooh16:57
awilkinsA Lit C-1 with auto-drive and battery pack half the mass and more than twice the range (double energy density, half the mass) would be fabbo16:57
dwatkinswe might not run out of Lithium if we replace petrol cars with ones with batteries?16:57
awilkinsIt's all recyclable though16:57
dwatkinsyeah, although the leccy needs to be generated from solar, wind etc. of course16:57
awilkinsAnd if the batteries have 4x the energy density, you don't need as much lithium16:58
awilkinsThe trinity of solutions to human problems ; energy generation, energy storage, molecular manufacturing16:58
awilkinsA 4x more energy dense battery pack is a great leap towards the future - batteries suck, but a lot less today16:59
awilkinsElectric cars are kind of marginal right now, a battery pack half the mass and twice the range will pitch them over the edge of practical16:59
Seeker`I think it is charging time instead of capacity that kills them though17:00
awilkinsLeccy cars plugged into a smart grid will give the wind farms somewhere to shove spare charge17:00
awilkinsSeeker`, Charge time is only a factor if your range isn't good enough17:00
awilkinsSeeker`, If you have a battery that can reliably do 120 miles on one charge, I'm fine and my commute is larger than most in the UK17:01
Seeker`there will always be a journey you can do that exceeds the range of the car17:01
naderpuz17:01
awilkinsSeeker`, Yes, but that's also true of liquid fuels17:01
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Seeker`awilkins: it doesn't take a couple of hours to fill a petrol tank17:01
awilkinsSeeker`, But you're also getting into the kind of range where human endurance is a factor17:01
awilkinsSeeker`, It takes me about 5 hours to drive 250 miles in UK road conditions17:02
dwatkinsalso, charge time isn't a factor if you can physically swap-out the battery like Renault are doing17:02
awilkinsAt that point, I'd welcome sitting down for an hour or so to recharge MY batteries17:02
dwatkinsthe only major downside compared to petrol/diesel cars is that an almost empty battery weighs as much as a full one, then.17:02
awilkinsAnd I believe the commercial driving laws mandate this kind of pause17:02
Seeker`that means that it might suit your driving habits17:03
Seeker`it doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a workable solution for everyone17:03
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awilkinsSeeker`, Claiming a solution isn't viable because it only meets the driving habits of 90% of the population doesn't cut it17:03
daftykinspeople must adapt!17:04
awilkinsMotorbikes don't meet my requirements because I promised my mom I woudln't drive one until she was dead17:04
dwatkinsI factor in a 15 minute break every 200 miles at bare minimum when driving long distance, 30 minutes would be fine.17:04
awilkinsDoes that mean that motorbikes have no place in the vehicle market?17:04
Seeker`awilkins: I never said that electric cars weren't viable because I promised my mum i wouldn't drive one17:05
awilkinsSeeker`, Yeah, but you're making out like they aren't viable because some people will dislike their charge time or range17:06
awilkinsBoth equally as personal as my promises to mom17:06
Seeker`just that I think there needs to be an improvement in charging time before they can truely be considered a replacement for petrol/diesel engines17:06
dwatkinsas I said, an alternative to charging time is to physically swap-out the battery17:07
awilkinsBut they're not an equal replacement for liquid fuel engine cars on any other score either17:07
dwatkinsin commercial vehicles, trucks and so on, this would probably be quite useful17:07
awilkinsAcceleration : much better . Maintenance cost : much better . Range replenishment : much worse.17:07
awilkinsCity driving efficiency : much better . Motorway driving efficiency ; a bit better17:08
dwatkinsunless you also allow for 'car trains' with linked navigation systems17:08
awilkinsComfort : arguably worse (because aircon / heater consumes energy they don't have to spare)17:09
dwatkinsbut that's possible for any type of fuel17:09
dwatkinsI worked out the other day that it would cost £6.50 to charge a Tesla from my home, but that I don't have a 70 Amp plug capable of doing so.17:10
awilkins£6.50 for what, 250 miles, is pretty awesome17:10
awilkinsAmortize the savings on petrol and splash out on a supercharger :-)17:11
dwatkinsyeah, compared even to my diesel turbo Peugeot 306, that's about a fifth the cost, or better17:11
dwatkinsdo I need 1.21 Gigawatts for that? ;)17:11
awilkinsI'm running about £13 for 100 miles17:11
awilkinsPetrol, compact car17:11
awilkinsThe car park costs me half as much again17:11
dwatkinscosts me about £60 to full my car, I get about 500 miles out of that17:12
awilkinsSimilar for a diesel Fabia17:12
awilkinsGetting about 430 miles out of £47 of "posh" petrol in my CitiGo17:12
dwatkinsmy parking is about £170 a year for the possibility of a space somewhere near my flat on the side of the road17:13
Seeker`I have several friends that live on the south coast that have family they visit up north. It takes 5 hours driving with about 30 mins of breaks on the whole journey. If you have to spend a couple of hours sitting there doing nothing mid-journey, thats 7 hours instead of 517:13
awilkins(in my xp posh petrol gives better mileage in small cars, enough to justify it's cost)17:13
dwatkins...and then there's the MOT and yearly repairs, insurance etc.17:13
dwatkinsSeeker`: I assume that's the north of England - I live in Edinburgh, and it takes me about 8 hours to drive to Berkshire ;)17:14
Seeker`dwatkins: yeah17:14
awilkinsSeeker`, Well, they would want to weigh up whether saving loadsamoney on their fuel the rest of the year is worth the odd extra 2 hours on an occasional journey17:14
dwatkinsif I had to drive from the north of Scotland to the middle of England, that would probably take most of the daylight hours of a day17:14
awilkinsOr hiring a range extender17:14
awilkinsTrailer hitch + small diesel genny17:14
awilkinsOr just hiring a diesel car for a few days17:15
awilkinsAnyhow, time to hit the road and burn some dirty, dirty, fuel17:15
Seeker`a small diesel car for a few days is probably getting on for a couple of hundred £, without taking in to account fuel17:15
Seeker`which wipes out a lot of your daily commute savings17:15
dwatkinsyou can hire city cars here for a few hours cheaply17:16
awilkinsSeeker`, I do 300-500 miles a week, that's £40-50 of fuel ; so even halving that, I'd have to be visiting my parents (250 miles away down south) every month to offset the savings17:17
awilkinsI don't visit them every month (I'm a terrible son, obvs.)17:17
daftykinswell, once you've finally escaped, why return? ;)17:17
daftykinsexcept for free feeds \o/17:18
daftykinsor because they're on the way back from very far away cycle rides \o/17:18
dwatkinsI managed to somehow persuade my parents that they should come and see me instead.17:18
awilkinsMine are too busy, flippin Rotary Club17:19
dwatkinsIt's my ghoddaughter and friends down south that expect me to visit regularly.17:19
daftykinshaha clubs.17:19
Seeker`I do about 45 miles a week. I probably spend £60/month on fuel. If I had to spend £200 to visit my family in scotland for a week, thats > 3.5 months fuel saving gone17:21
daftykinssurely you'd leave the car at home and train it like a good citizen?17:22
Seeker`no17:22
daftykinswhy ever not D:17:22
Seeker`I prefer to travel by car17:22
brobostigonwow, two minecraft pe updates in two days.17:22
daftykinsenvironment takes another for the team17:23
dwatkinsI take the train when visiting one place, but if I'm travelling around whilst viditing various people, it's much cheaper and easier to drive myself than take trains.17:23
dwatkinsconvenience, I know17:23
Seeker`as soon as more than 1 person is travelling it becomes vastly cheaper to drive17:24
dwatkinsI wish trains were cheaper and you didn't have to book so far in advance.17:25
daftykinsi never booked17:26
daftykinsused to hop along the south coast all the time to visit other Guernsey mates at different Unis17:26
dwatkinsit's vastly more expensive to travel Edinburgh to London if you don't book well in advance17:26
dwatkins£120 vs £50, iirc17:26
daftykinsmmm, figures17:27
Seeker`it cost me £60 to get to/from poole last weekend17:27
Seeker`via train, booking in advance17:27
Seeker`it is about £25 in petrol each way17:27
Seeker`3.5 hours via train, 2 via car17:29
daftykinstraffic is getting pretty insane over here17:29
daftykinsall the one-person-per-car types driving from the north along the east coast into town, to work their finance jobs17:29
daftykinsthe queue goes the length of the island ;x17:29
daftykinsthat's what irks me17:29
dwatkinsI'm about to start cycling to/from work again, which will be nice.17:31
redtape|renegadedaftykins: redtape .. is just finishing his jam scone .. however I love irk .. must look into patenting the term 'irkle' sometime (priceless) .. Here's wats happening on the course (update) http://t.co/TaO8HyKgmc17:31
daftykinsthat's not really how patents work thankfully ;)17:32
Seeker`patent a word?!17:32
redtape|renegadesoz, meant website to register ..17:32
daftykinsredtape|renegade: this right over your front/back wall?17:32
redtape|renegadeno .. just a tweet that I scoured the barrel for ..17:33
daftykinsah17:33
redtape|renegadenote to self .. must release the source in future ... https://twitter.com/Lozzerlou/status/34303369439674368017:34
daftykinsbet she put 'em off17:35
dwatkinsalways use the source, Luke17:35
daftykinsheh, mates just got his new gaming PC back to his place in England17:36
daftykinsdespite some surprise rain at Gatwick apparently17:36
dwatkinshe took a PC on a plane?17:37
daftykinsyep17:39
daftykinsnice quick VAT dodge ;)17:39
redtape|renegadecomputers on aircraft .. that'll never catch on ..17:39
daftykinsXD17:39
dwatkinsI vaguely remember hearing most planes run some kind of UNIX, can't remember any details.17:40
redtape|renegadelinux on space craft .. that's a silly notion too ;)17:40
dwatkinshehe17:40
daftykinshttp://www.samsung.com/uk/ssdcashback/17:41
daftykinsgotta get me this at some point17:41
daftykinsa whole £15 cashback! :D17:41
dwatkinswhy don't they just lower the price?17:42
daftykinswell it's a benefit for non-lazy people isn't it17:42
daftykinsthe idea is they incentive-ise (however you spell that) but you've gotta perform some legwork to get it17:42
daftykinsso the idea is most people will mess it up / forget17:42
daftykinsso they tempt you but may not necessarily lose out on all17:43
redtape|renegadeOT | Whenever will they learn the mean on the golden Rule of 'cashbacks' ?? [ Give a Raspberry Pi alternative instead !! ] obvious really .. you can give to 'the kid' ..17:43
dwatkinsI've discovered recently that buzzwords just hide the true meaning of things.17:43
dwatkins"persuade" is a much better word than "incentivise", and isn't made up, either ;)17:44
dwatkinsthere's also "bribe"...17:44
daftykinsall words are made-up17:44
dwatkinsindeed they are17:44
daftykinsthat one's in the dictionary however17:45
* dwatkins rends daftykins with his burbletruncheon see if he doesn't17:45
dwatkinsmy point exactly :)17:45
daftykinsi have no idea what that was about17:45
dwatkinsoh frettled gruntbuggily...17:45
dwatkinsIt's from the Vogon poetry in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.17:46
daftykinswell i sense the prior topic is no longer under debate17:46
daftykinsso i shall go and add hot water to my drain cleaner17:46
dwatkinshave you left it the required 20 minutes?17:46
redtape|renegadefound a great word recently in a literary pub ..17:49
redtape|renegadeBloke said ..17:49
redtape|renegadeLook if you don't agree with me you can pick yur **defenistration** .. classic XD  from the 1700's .. arguement over, matey ..17:50
dwatkinsyus, antiwindoment17:50
redtape|renegadeslight error .. it's from the 1400's appatrently .. must do bettr there ..17:51
dwatkinsthe days of window tax17:53
* redtape|renegade wonders if that's a good blog for anti-windows hacks .. | ' facepalm ' [ stay on topic redtape. Plz ]17:53
dwatkinsthere's a topic?17:53
redtape|renegadeooBuntoo apparently ..17:54
redtape|renegadewithout popeyious .. the mice will play  ....         thou17:54
dwatkinsfirst hit for "ubuntu blog" in Google is http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/17:54
redtape|renegadeopening .. it's like a pokemon site, No ?17:55
daftykinsdwatkins: required 5 yes17:55
daftykinsalthough due to IRC it was more like 35...17:55
dwatkinsdaftykins: probably fine by now, then, yeah17:56
dwatkinswash it down well, obv.17:56
daftykinsfull kettle of warmed water17:57
daftykinsstill seems to smell =|17:57
redtape|renegadeUbuntu -Box .. ??  Come on OMGooBuntoo  .. you've gone wrong .. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/ubuntu-pc-case-mod17:57
dwatkinsdaftykins: with any luck, that's the biomatter dissolving in the pipes17:57
daftykinsah nah the smell was what was to begin with that i wanted rid of17:58
daftykins:>17:58
dwatkinsoh bah17:58
dwatkinsdid you take the bottom of the U-bend?17:58
dwatkins*off17:58
daftykinsnewp17:58
daftykinsthat'd be option 217:58
dwatkins(only do so above a bucket, of course)17:58
dwatkinsyeah, chances are something smelly is trapped in there17:58
daftykinsi just happened to have drain unblocker from doing the shower prior17:59
daftykinsthat was quite exotic >_<17:59
redtape|renegadethere . is and it costs £4 to replace [redtape has XPce] ..17:59
dwatkinsI ruined the chrome on my bath overflow with strong acid17:59
redtape|renegadeyou bathe in acid ? seems legit !18:00
daftykinsi'm really not fond of the ubuntu logo18:00
daftykinsdwatkins: whoops18:00
dwatkinsredtape|renegade: no, I was trying to clear out the drains due to bad smells18:00
redtape|renegadedaftykins: The secret about the logo .. is that it's a gif .. it's really an Uber fan ..18:00
redtape|renegadeit's just Mark tell everyone which way the axel moves ..18:01
redtape|renegade**tells ..18:01
daftykinswhat you're saying makes no sense to me :(18:02
redtape|renegadeI guess you had to see the youtube video sorry ..18:02
redtape|renegade(if you give it a lot of thought - and turn the circle into a turbine like fan- you'll get it ..)18:03
redtape|renegadeofcourse you cant see the 3d efect with a 2d logo .. so it's a secret .. but maybe I'm mad .. too much jam today ..18:04
daftykinsuh-ohs who let you have the jam?18:04
redtape|renegadeI got a taste for it of a lady called Joy ;)18:05
redtape|renegade**off18:05
daftykinsi'm heading off18:11
daftykinslater everyone o/18:11
daftykinsenjoy your weekend18:12
redtape|renegadelater .. stay away from jamious .. bye..18:12
daftykinsi'll try18:12
redtape|renegadeOT | Dunno who mentioned "buzzwordz" but here's a foretaste of Caturday .. https://plus.google.com/+BuzzFeed/posts/EmMPscHVqmz18:20
MartijnVdSEeee! Loads of new Unity in saucy :)18:43
AlanBellis that a good thing?18:43
MartijnVdSI hope so18:44
MartijnVdSdash is a bit slow in the current one18:44
AlanBellI am back on gnome shell at the moment18:45
AlanBelland I have been making this work http://hencam.libertus.co.uk/18:46
MartijnVdSAlanBell: still no hens in sight?18:46
MartijnVdSah! at the top of "Run"18:47
MartijnVdSComputerphile about Raspberry Pi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2HjuZBuo018:47
brobostigonactivity18:47
AlanBellyes18:47
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: hewwo!18:47
brobostigonevening MartijnVdS18:47
brobostigonnice work AlanBell18:48
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redtape|renegadeooo Ouch slippers would have made him Grandpa Ubuntu :: https://twitter.com/grifferz/status/342892800389574656/photo/1 | Nice one Alan.18:58
mungbeanwatching the ch5 d:day programme, pretty good19:48
redtape|renegadeYay .. I did my first Meme ... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Bug_1_solved_BUT_....png20:10
^aDaMTook me 5hours and still I did not get any where lol.21:01
bigcalmGood evening peeps :)23:00
bigcalmOh, good morning23:00
treb0rgood evening23:01
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redtape|renegadebigcalm.. Allo ..23:02
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redtape|renegade!flood23:03
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bigcalmKittie on keyboard23:03
redtape|renegadebigcalm: Had the same problem with them tutoring me on somersaults  https://plus.google.com/108807575261328575617/posts/EmMPscHVqmz23:04
* redtape|renegade tried and tries to do a double one .. but fails at the 'old dog new tricks' stage.23:05
redtape|renegadeoh crap .. I've got a stye in my eye .. or sommit stuck, like a bit of dirt .. .. Quick community .. what should I do23:07
redtape|renegade                                                                                                                           ^              ^       ???23:07
Seeker`not panic about it on IRC23:09
* redtape|renegade dies quietly but painfully i the corner ..23:09
Seeker`i'd be surprised if a bit of dirt in your eye kills you23:10
redtape|renegadestill a bit of life left to do some somber poetry while i die ..23:10
Seeker`blinking or washing it out would probably be your two options23:11
redtape|renegadeDEATH : The country from which no traveller returns ..  oh right thanks ..23:11
Seeker`and if it is a stye, let your immune system do its job without complaining you're dying :P23:12
redtape|renegade.. all ok now .. just been to hell & back .. ^_^23:14
chalcedonyglad you solved it23:43
redtape|renegadeCould'ave been worse .. thought I'd hear .. why dont you google it ? (with my eye in agony)  Anyway i did : & the vikings are useless on the matter .. http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/a/pb/Wallace-Cameron-emergency-eyewash-station/id=6381459/23:46
chalcedonyoh23:49
chalcedonyrinsing it with cold water being a not terrible solution - but first try pulling one lid over the other - use your eyelashes as a handle23:49
redtape|renegadeIt's Ok . it's gone now .. just came on all of a sudden . .. Willing to invest in a proper kit though .. http://bit.ly/15UrxFo23:51
redtape|renegadechalcedony: Have you seen Jono 's effort ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_8bGUdCd0  .. He calls his Wifi .. "Kensington Pub"  seems tweetable.23:57
chalcedonyredtape|renegade, that is cool!23:58

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