[01:03] <dfdfdfd> hi all
[01:04] <dfdfdfd> i need help please
[01:06] <dfdfdfd> can somone help me please
[01:07] <dfdfdfd> dose anyone know about the the software called UNETBOOTING
[04:35] <redtape|renegade> Morning ... sun's up .. moon gone away .. gotta have a system !
[04:58] <redtape|renegade> OT | Damn ! Missed A Macbook Air for £172 incl delivery off an Aucktion site .  http://r.ebay.com/POIAD4  | and it was 13 inch .. (phooey!)  | I'm counting on this one to get me out of No-Ubuntu-Laptop-Hell ::: http://r.ebay.com/xOx20e ::: Mostly 'cos it's got orange though.
[04:59]  * redtape|renegade rediscovers the Mighty Boosh at 6am ..
[05:07] <redtape|renegade> OT | All-Time Classic M.B.sh  phrase ... " You've gone wrong !" |  http://youtu.be/KxNeQ4JhSBY?t=11m19s
[05:27] <redtape|renegade> I want this website ::: http://www.voice.tel/
[05:30] <redtape|renegade> Sod it ! :: I'm registering :: www.­ubuntu.­tel ::  .. probably have the friggin' PLC by 14.04 .. i.e. next April ~
[05:32] <redtape|renegade> Has anyone got any good RSS links for me to have a reason for  putting 'Opera' Browser on my netbook .. must be a Linux RSS page somewhere ?
[06:40] <knightwise> morning
[07:02] <dwatkins> mornin
[07:17] <diplo> Morning all
[07:21] <AlanBell> morning
[07:21] <AlanBell> one egg laid today \o/ http://hencam.libertus.co.uk/
[07:47] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:11] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:12] <MooDoo> morning
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[08:13] <christel> one egg! you've nearly got enough for an omelette!
[08:13] <christel> (morning)
[08:13] <brobostigon> morning miss christel
[08:15] <czajkowski> 21 eggs here if anyone wants some
[08:16] <brobostigon> allergies.
[08:16] <christel> czajkowski: see that's more like it! you could make a whole omelette and some cakes!
[08:16] <christel> ;)
[08:16] <czajkowski> indeed
[08:16] <christel> mmmcake.
[08:17] <MooDoo> yum
[08:17] <czajkowski> I made a Mahooosive omlette recently in order to use up a lot
[08:17] <czajkowski> then some pancakes
[08:17] <czajkowski> then gave more away
[08:17] <christel> :D
[08:17] <czajkowski> and still had some
[08:18] <christel> AlanBell: i think your chickens have escaped, i am unable to locate them!
[08:22]  * czajkowski has let her 3 crazy hens out into the garden to roam around for the day 
[08:22] <czajkowski> else they whinge
[08:23] <MooDoo> you need a hen cam like alan :)
[08:24] <brobostigon> someone at the quiz at my local last night, said i exude love for my gf, this is surprising, as i didnt know you could exude a feeling.
[08:29] <AlanBell> christel: yeah, I am going to cut a bigger window later so the camera can see into the run properly
[08:31] <czajkowski> MooDoo: we did :)
[08:31] <czajkowski> we had the cam first :)
[08:32] <christel> AlanBell: :D
[08:32] <brobostigon> the world can be confusing.
[08:32] <czajkowski> brobostigon: the world is simple, people make it confusing.
[08:35] <brobostigon> czajkowski: the world obays the rules of physics, but yes i agree, people make it confusing.
[08:41] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:42] <MooDoo> morning
[08:42] <bigcalm> I'm in shock that it is Friday
[08:42] <bigcalm> This is what happens when one has Monday and Tuesday as holiday
[08:43] <bigcalm> Can I buy extra week days from somewhere?
[08:44] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[08:45] <MooDoo> bigcalm: alas no
[08:53] <bigcalm> Ho hum
[08:56] <bigcalm> On the plus side, as it is Saturday tomorrow, I get to have a much needed haircut
[09:00] <bigcalm> On the down side, I'm going to a florist's this evening to look at flowers for our wedding
[09:00] <bigcalm> Typo on wedding as weeding just then :)
[09:07] <dwatkins> A Freudian slip?
[09:08] <MooDoo> just wait till you get the wedding ring on, IT BURNS ;) lol
[09:10] <bigcalm> :D
[09:11] <bigcalm> I wants it now
[09:11] <diplo> I only wore my wedding ring for 3 weeks :)
[09:11] <directhex> i feel weird without mine on
[09:11] <directhex> but if it's hot and i can't take it off, i FREAK OUT
[09:12] <diplo> I'm a lefty, and it never felt right on it, when I had the engagement ring that was fine :)
[09:12] <bigcalm> No engagement ring for me
[09:13] <dwatkins> I'd be concerned about my hands expanding for whatever reason - you can have rings made bigger, mind.
[09:22] <JamesTait> Good morning all you lovely people, happy Friday and happy Doughnut Day! :-D
[09:23] <bigcalm> Doughnut Day?
[09:24] <JamesTait> Indeed.
[09:26] <bigcalm> I wonder if I can use that excuse for getting a Krispy Kreme doughnut from Tesco
[09:26] <JamesTait> bigcalm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Doughnut_Day It's on the internet, it must be true.
[09:27] <bigcalm> Goodness me!
[09:27] <bigcalm> It must be true indeed
[09:29] <bigcalm> I doubt that Hayley would like me to call her a doughnut dolly
[09:29] <bigcalm> Though she is my tea fairy today :D
[09:30] <JamesTait> Hayley is your servant girl? ;)
[09:31] <christel> bigcalm: krispy kreme saddens me
[09:31] <christel> they dont seem to do the ones that are filled with "just" kreme anymore
[09:31] <christel> and they were my favourite :(
[09:31] <bigcalm> Awwwww
[09:31] <JamesTait> I don't intentionally make my wife a servant girl, but I don't complain when she does it herself.  I like to think I'm quite appreciative, in fact.
[09:32] <bigcalm> JamesTait: whenever she is at home, she's kind enough to bring me mugs of tea when she also fancies a brew (which is always)
[09:32] <JamesTait> Which is nice.
[09:32] <JamesTait> The way it should be.
[09:32] <bigcalm> It does have the side effect of me not getting many brakes from the keyboard
[09:33] <JamesTait> This is true.
[09:33] <JamesTait> But then nature kicks in to resolve that.
[09:34] <bigcalm> Heh
[09:39] <christel> i clearly need a wife
[09:39] <christel> to bring me cups of coffee
[09:39] <brobostigon> yummy, coffee :)
[09:40] <brobostigon> i am training my gf, in making good coffee, with real coffee in my perculator, :)
[09:40] <christel> Excellent! when you finish training her can i have her?
[09:40] <brobostigon> no.
[09:41] <brobostigon> she prefers tea, so i make tea, happy all round.
[09:46] <christel> boo :(
[09:46] <diplo> tea FTW!
[09:46] <diplo> Dirty dirty coffee!
[09:47] <christel> i dont like tea :(
[09:47] <christel> well, i quite like a spot of hogsback T.E.A
[09:47] <bigcalm> Heh
[09:47] <brobostigon> christel: she all mine, get your own, :)
[09:48] <christel> hrmph!
[09:49] <davmor2> the only teas I like are nettle and peppermint (for tummy upsets) and liquorice hmmmmmmm
[09:52] <Seeker`> chocolate chip tea is goooooooooooooooooooooooood
[09:53] <Seeker`> http://www.adagio.uk.com/flavors/chocolate_chip.html
[09:53] <christel> Seeker`: now you're just being weird!
[09:53] <christel> :P
[09:53] <Seeker`> christel: 'now'? :P
[09:53] <christel> ;)
[09:55] <davmor2> Seeker`: I think christel just missed a more out of that sentence to be honest
[09:56] <Seeker`> nah, nothing particularly weird about chocolate chip tea
[09:56] <czajkowski> grim
[09:57] <MooDoo> christel: you really are nuts
[09:57] <christel> MooDoo: because i dont drink chcoolate chip tea? :o
[09:58] <MooDoo> christel: hell no just in general
[09:58] <MooDoo> ;)
[09:58] <davmor2> MooDoo: I think you'll find that czajkowski is nuttier
[09:58] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah but i like czajkowski ;)
[09:58] <czajkowski> vanilla tea !
[09:59] <MooDoo> deep fried marsbars o/ ftw
[09:59] <christel> davmor2: this is very true, compared to czajkowski i am very non-nutty!
[09:59] <MooDoo> christel: but we love you too :)
[10:00]  * czajkowski tickles christel hello darling 
[10:01] <davmor2> MooDoo: you know you're in a public channel saying you like czajkowski right this wasn't a private chat ;) /me hugs czajkowski cus he knows how much she likes it
[10:02] <MooDoo> davmor2: I don't care, the whole world can know czajkowski and christel ROCK ;)
[10:03] <christel> czajkowski: HELLO PRETTYCAKES <3
[10:05] <davmor2> MooDoo: shhhhhh they're not meant to know they ROCK!!!!  now how are they gonna get their heads through doorways ;)
[10:07] <MooDoo> lol
[10:08] <davmor2> Happy unofficial Turing day everyone.......I wonder if we can makes this roll so much that we get another bank holiday.....make it so government !!!!!
[10:16] <bigcalm> Good luck with that
[10:23] <dwatkins> Make it sew
[10:32] <Laney> james naughtie sounds like he's about to throw up
[10:32] <Laney> introducing the queen
[10:38] <czajkowski> Laney: why is he introducing the queue
[10:38] <czajkowski> also who is he ?
[10:38] <Laney> on radio 4 atm
[10:39] <Laney> she was opening their new building
[10:39] <dwatkins> I'd be nervous interoducing any member of the royal family.
[10:39] <dwatkins> Was she actually being interviewed as well?
[10:39] <Laney> haha, don't be silly
[10:39] <Laney> she just gave a little speech
[10:40] <dwatkins> yeah, I didn't think she allowed for cross-examination
[11:05] <Laney> bah
[11:06] <Laney> just dropped my full cup of tea made with the last drops of milk
[11:06] <dwatkins> :(
[11:06] <MooDoo> pah
[11:06] <dwatkins> don't cry
[11:06]  * dwatkins runs
[11:06] <MooDoo> clumsy oaf ;)
[11:23]  * awilkins drinks tea with no milk since student houses never had any - habit has persisted since uni
[11:23] <awilkins> Milkless tea tastes more like tea anyway
[12:23] <dwatkins> I upgraded from Oneric to Precise yesterday, and discovered that resolvconf exists and had to learn about it before I could get internets.
[12:23] <diplo> heh, got it working then dwatkins
[12:24]  * MooDoo is using LTS on his laptop :D
[12:24] <dwatkins> Perhaps I should just set my server to use DHCP and give it a static IP on the router via its MAC address, though.
[12:24] <redtape|renegade> OT | I was wondering if any of the 'over-sized' shoppers here .. that use 'Jacamo' have been happy with the UK Firm, or if anyone knows any only *3XL* clothes stores online ? (i.e. I am asking : ... Where do **You** buy fat clothes ??)
[12:24] <dwatkins> yeah, diplo - the install would do a bunch of stuff then sit at a "do you want to change your SQL passwd?" and other such things, but completed eventually, everything except squid seems ok.
[12:24] <dwatkins> What is the current LTS? Is there a rule to which versions are considered long-term?
[12:25] <MooDoo> dwatkins: 12.04.1 isn't it
[12:25] <dwatkins> for reference, this is what I probably need to do to resolvconf at very least: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf
[12:25] <dwatkins> MooDoo: yeah, this was my first minimum stop-gap version
[12:25] <diplo> ah yes I had that as well dwatkins, why the upgrade took so long :)
[12:25] <MooDoo> redtape|renegade: do you have any big and tall shops in your area?  and it's called "big and tall" lol
[12:27] <redtape|renegade> MooDoo I already know that .. who doesn't. .. And No there aren't at all .. it was purposefully meant to be for ***ON-LINE*** anyone know anything else ? (usefull)..
[12:28] <MooDoo> oh sorry
[12:29] <redtape|renegade> heaven sake , I'm resorting to football shirts for Bromley that just happen to be 3XL for @uck sake .. I'm getting to think its a conspiracy if 'can't.'
[12:33] <redtape|renegade> ** of 'can't' .. soz
[12:35] <dwatkins> I only know of Long Tall Sally, which I assume doesn't help you, redtape|renegade - they're listed here, though, http://www.tallclub.co.uk/?page_id=30
[12:37] <redtape|renegade> opening .. be prob.ly have .. QUESTION : Even peeking for under my dope hat .. Am I the only fat bloke in the chatroom ?
[12:38] <dwatkins> depends on your definition
[12:39] <dwatkins> I have lost about 15% of my body weight since starting this keto diet.
[12:39] <dwatkins> I'm still heavier than I want to be, but it's made a huge difference.
[12:45] <diplo> I was quite heavy till my wife left me, but also fairly tall
[12:45] <diplo> Lost about 4-5 stone now
[12:46] <redtape|renegade> dwatkins: definition (?) .. I guess this is the industry's standard :: http://bit.ly/Fatbloke
[12:47] <dwatkins> thanks for the slightly NSFW picture, redtape|renegade ;)
[12:47] <dwatkins> I was referring to the definition of "over weight" or possibly "obesce", I don't know either, though.
[12:48] <redtape|renegade> .. that's OK .. It's my stockbroker anyway .. he cheers for the home team anyway, I know that .. so no bad vibes'   .
[13:06]  * daftykins sips at a caramel Latte
[13:06] <daftykins> well well, it's warm today
[13:07] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: your a life saver for my boredom .. How's *your* island today ?
[13:07] <daftykins> not too bad thanks! albeit the usual crowd of fools clothes-lining the highstreet so you can't get past ;)
[13:08] <daftykins> and yours?
[13:08] <redtape|renegade> TT's gone ballistic again ..
[13:08] <daftykins> ooh is it race time already?
[13:09] <dwatkins> is Mir any different from X11 from the user's perspective, or are all the changes under the hood?
[13:11] <awilkins> Does Mir fix composite texture tearing on dual screens / nvidia hardware (is the thing I mostly care about)
[13:11] <daftykins> Azelphur: are ye alive?
[13:14] <redtape|renegade> Why would you summon an X-boxer ?
[13:14] <daftykins> a what? :)
[13:14] <redtape|renegade> xbox.er
[13:14] <daftykins> i hear he has setup source dedicated servers before
[13:14] <daftykins> i must pick his brains
[13:15] <redtape|renegade> ahh .. you know who to hastle .. I see .. well done.
[13:15] <daftykins> ;)
[13:15] <daftykins> redtape|renegade: soo... you not got a place of work to be?
[13:15] <diplo> daftykins: I used to host some, been a few years now though
[13:15] <redtape|renegade> I'm really trying to get a Macbook Air .. Place of work ..
[13:16] <redtape|renegade> ??
[13:16] <dwatkins> is that a question or a statement?
[13:16]  * redtape|renegade excuses himswelf while he nearly pukes in his moyuth .. (PLace of Work) .. (does it exiist ??)
[13:17] <daftykins> diplo: it seems to have all gone pretty confusing, not that i've ever tried before. basically i was helping this guy to try and set up one to host goldeneye source or this mod 'the hidden'
[13:17] <dwatkins> your mouth might not exist?
[13:18] <redtape|renegade> dwatkins: I was toalking about daftykins 's bold assumption that I might wish to be subjugated by a boss .. he know's me not well, ahem.
[13:18] <daftykins> redtape|renegade: self employed by some variety then? :)
[13:19] <daftykins> brb
[13:19]  * redtape|renegade 's main source is bitcoin and cfd's.  .. usu. the MIB .. cough.
[13:19] <diplo> Wasn't overly problematic to set one up from memory, as I say it's been a couple of years since I hosted one
[13:19] <daftykins> so you're a dirty benefit thief? :D
[13:20] <redtape|renegade> no . I live off my interest ..
[13:20] <redtape|renegade> I own a trust company.
[13:20] <redtape|renegade> brb..
[13:21] <diplo> Just looking at a site on install, seems fairly similar
[13:27] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: Perhaps yur right, I get guilty sometimes .. only thing I've paid is V.A.T. in 10 years to the Guvn'er.
[13:27] <redtape|renegade> but my accountant says it's a good tax strategy.. anyway.
[13:28] <redtape|renegade> I just keep seeing Red Tape about paying people .. and react against it ..
[13:29] <redtape|renegade> Prob.ly why I'm a renegade against redtape, dunno ?
[13:38]  * redtape|renegade is wondering why Mr Pope-ster hasn't said Allo , today | Is he still on a Canal Boat on the Panama canal ?
[13:41] <daftykins> diplo: i was trying the hldsupdatetool thing, which downloads a 'steam' script/program which you run, but that got nowhere because it tries to connect to IPs and keeps timing out
[13:42] <diplo> Got the ports open it needs etc ?
[13:43] <daftykins> diplo: as a client downloader surely it doesn't need any
[13:43] <diplo> You run ./steam yeah and that's where it fails ?
[13:43] <daftykins> yep
[13:44] <daftykins> strace on it shows it just sits there and keeps timing out hitting some hardcoded IPs
[13:44] <diplo> So you run ./steam -command update -game hl2mp ?
[13:44] <daftykins> well apparently even ./steam on its' own should update itself then spit out a command list, but yeah even extra stuff sits and does nothing
[13:45] <diplo> I could try running one, not a firewall issue at all ?
[13:45] <daftykins> no firewall on this guy's ubuntu server box
[13:45] <daftykins> i could try and DMZ his server IP to see if that'll change anything
[13:46] <diplo> Maybe worth a try ?
[13:47] <diplo> Could run it on a server here to try if you get no where
[13:48] <daftykins> i could try it on my VPS too - see if it is restricted by being behind a home router in this guy's case
[13:48] <daftykins> as a VM did the same for me, but again behind a router
[13:48] <diplo> I can't see it being the cause but maybe
[13:48] <daftykins> yeah i figured it was a client downloader
[13:49] <daftykins> ok just configured his server to be the DMZ endpoint
[13:49] <daftykins> no change on the program
[13:49] <daftykins> i was wondering whether 'SteamCMD' had replaced SRCDS
[13:50] <diplo> I did just read about that
[13:50] <daftykins> that one did install and run, though from there i had no idea which 'game' app to install to be able to run these game mods this guy wants to use
[13:51] <diplo> hl2mp I think for golden eye
[13:51] <daftykins> yarr
[13:51] <daftykins> i managed to get it to download that
[13:51] <daftykins> i figure this srcds one must just be deprecated
[13:51] <daftykins> strace'ing it shows:
[13:51] <daftykins> connect(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27038), sin_addr=inet_addr("69.28.153.82")}, 16
[13:52] <daftykins> it has a few more hardcoded IPs which all time out eventually
[13:52] <diplo> If you read the top of the page of hlds it explained that it will provide an out of date server and to use steamcmd if it does
[13:52] <diplo> Just read it myself :)
[13:53] <daftykins> which page is that?
[13:54] <diplo> hldsupdate tool page
[13:55] <redtape|renegade> dwatkinS :  Thanks for the heads'up on that big&tall-club webpage .. just bought these :: http://www.bigdudeclothing.co.uk/rockford-kingsize-dirty-denim-jeans/ ::
[13:55] <diplo> Because they are now using steampipe which is their Content strea stuff
[13:55]  * redtape|renegade comes over alll funny & puts  on a Ringo Star voice/accent  and saying .. "gear!"
[13:55]  * redtape|renegade facepalms.
[13:55] <daftykins> diplo: doh, never read that page
[13:55] <daftykins> or that line rather
[13:56] <diplo> heh me either to after i went to another page
[13:57] <daftykins> ah well i got steamCMD going and hl2mp down - so just have to work out how to run one of the mods
[13:57] <daftykins> there appear to be no modern guides for the other mod this guy wanted to run
[13:58] <diplo> On that developer pages/wiki it explained how to load a mod I'm sure I saw
[14:00] <diplo> So something like srcfs -console -game gesoruce -ip <> -port <> -maxplayers # +map <name>
[14:00] <diplo> srcds*
[14:02] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: I have a question later about : How do I *correctly* load Quake 2 maps (yes on Quake 2) .. 'cos so far I've failed...
[14:02] <daftykins> via the game console?
[14:02] <daftykins> 'map mapname' surely
[14:02] <redtape|renegade> nope
[14:02] <redtape|renegade> I have tried that .. but no luck ..
[14:02] <redtape|renegade> ..
[14:02] <redtape|renegade> it does say ..
[14:02] <daftykins> what does it do?
[14:03] <redtape|renegade> This will load on next map opening .. but doesn't...
[14:03] <redtape|renegade> and yes the maps are in the right directory location ..
[14:04] <daftykins> there might have been some server commands required
[14:04] <redtape|renegade> for a solo map ?
[14:04] <daftykins> yeah
[14:04] <redtape|renegade> oh right .. ok
[14:04] <daftykins> technically when you're playing single player it's running a local game server
[14:04] <redtape|renegade> prrey do tell..
[14:04] <redtape|renegade> oh ok
[14:05] <daftykins> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/archived/Game-Server-HOWTO/quake2.html
[14:05] <daftykins> google tells all
[14:05] <redtape|renegade> opening..
[14:06] <redtape|renegade> crumbs .. I just usu. use the winblows box for Quake 2 ..
[14:06] <daftykins> hmm that's mostly multiplayer
[14:07]  * redtape|renegade has yet to find a proper editor on linux for maps .. but perhaps that's my problem ?
[14:07] <daftykins> to make a quake map?
[14:07] <redtape|renegade> Aye.
[14:07] <daftykins> hmm no idea about that
[14:08] <daftykins> only time i ever tried mapping i ran what got renamed 'Hammer' for Half-Life 1
[14:08] <daftykins> "map filename" definitely seems to be all you need to run
[14:08] <daftykins> try including the file extension?
[14:08] <daftykins> a good test was always the loading screen demos
[14:08] <daftykins> map demo1.dm2
[14:09] <redtape|renegade> yeah, I like the engine (HL).. but I'm still stuck in 2001 for FPS's ... I'll try that command .. hangon ..
[14:39] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: Got it sorted now , thanks man .. Here's a screen of the diehard map.. ::::: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/2013-06-07_1535_quake_2_F1_key.png :::::
[14:39] <daftykins> ^_^
[14:39] <daftykins> that's old school
[14:39] <daftykins> wow the weapon model looks bad
[14:40] <redtape|renegade> i just like the basics .. i.e. they All die...
[14:40] <dwatkins> I much prefer Quake 1 for various reasons - especially as there's fuhquake for online playing.
[14:41] <SuperMatt> Quake 2 was always my favourite
[14:41] <redtape|renegade> I know , I am with you on that one , or at least I used to be .. I just found in game **smooth edge*** animations 'in game-play' fascinating .. still do ..
[14:42] <redtape|renegade> SuperMatt .. U a Quaker 2 too ?
[14:44] <DJones> Ah, thats a good days work, replacement server built and running smoothly
[14:45] <daftykins> DJones: only one? ;)
[14:46] <redtape|renegade> DJones: There is no spoon ...
[14:46] <DJones> daftykins: Yes thankfully
[14:46] <diplo> daftykins: Get it working in the end with the mod ?
[14:48] <daftykins> diplo: ah well i spotted the hl2mp had down'd ~/source/ which has the files in, including srcds_linux and srcds_run script but both error, so i need to go and read about how to do it properly but i've not done that yet :D moved onto other fun things
[14:50] <diplo> heh
[14:50] <daftykins> amazed that nobody has a working guide online
[14:50] <daftykins> well actually i might not have searched for that with the steamCMD
[14:50] <daftykins> so nm, shall give that a whirl later perhaps
[14:53] <dogmatic69> where can I access wine files (eg: C:/...
[14:54] <daftykins> as in where does it store them?
[14:54] <daftykins> ~/.wine/... probably
[14:54] <dogmatic69> daftykins: that is the one, thanks.
[14:55] <daftykins> np
[14:56] <bigcalm> I keep seeing "Postal 2" in my game list on Steam but read it as "Portal 2". Every time I am disappointed
[14:59] <daftykins> aww
[14:59] <daftykins> do you not have it?
[15:00] <daftykins> actually it appears i no longer do either
[15:01] <dwatkins> I thought only Portal [1] was ported to Linux.
[15:03] <redtape|renegade> Postal is also a brilliant franchise.
[15:04] <bigcalm> Portal has been ported, Portal 2 has not
[15:05]  * redtape|renegade wonders if someone like Ryan Gordon should be contacted about this ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Gordon
[15:07] <redtape|renegade> or perhaps these guys ? http://www.liflg.org/
[15:08] <dwatkins> I noted earlier that Serious Sam 3 has been ported to Linux, also - see the latest Humble Bundle
[15:08] <diplo> afaik he's helped out with some stuff already for quite a few game studios
[15:08] <diplo> dwatkins: yeah Ive got it at home
[15:08] <diplo> Plays quite well
[15:08] <redtape|renegade> yeah, I talk to him on G+ , but he's a bit tricky to get along with ..
[15:10] <redtape|renegade> bit reclusive and well, he's nintendo-er & all i got my kicks off was a sega game gear .. so it's prickly at times..
[15:12] <redtape|renegade> has anyone seen that Omnio -whootsit yet ? http://kck.st/11UpnXa
[15:13] <redtape|renegade> Apparently, the local pub landlord has bought one .. oh dear .
[15:15]  * redtape|renegade imagine's 60 years olds, heavily intoxicated playing some version of dad's army after closing .. perhaps there will be 'pub platoons' crikey !
[15:20] <redtape|renegade> ( no-one jumping on that thread ?)
[15:22] <daftykins> forums make me sad
[15:23] <redtape|renegade> mm . some do .. depends if it's phpBB or not .. (XDA-developers being the exception)
[15:23] <daftykins> i just feel my life is slipping away when trying to use them
[15:23] <daftykins> soooo slow
[15:24] <redtape|renegade> I wouldn't mind , but the font text size changes all of my posts on some forums dependig on the month .. very annoying ..
[15:25] <redtape|renegade> .. try .. so .. hard .. to .. post .. in .. a articulate .. manner .. ( usu. flatline in the end).
[15:37] <daftykins> ugh gotta pay my parish fees
[15:37] <daftykins> but i'm 7 minutes too late for the office and the deadline was today
[15:37] <daftykins> ...oops
[15:38] <redtape|renegade> surely you can attach a nice bottle of plonk in the pdf-cheque can't you ? Seems to work here ..
[15:39] <daftykins> haha
[15:40] <daftykins> they're stuffed if they think they're getting anything like that out of me
[15:40] <daftykins> £200/yr just for owning a house is a joke already
[15:40] <redtape|renegade> parishes  .. Crickey, they'll be regulating treens next ..
[15:40] <daftykins> i just paid them 9k for buying it =|
[15:41] <redtape|renegade> My mum's got one up on the local parish ..
[15:42] <daftykins> :o
[15:42] <redtape|renegade> She talked to the local vicar .. (76y.o.a  nearly deaf) .. and asked if she could be buried in the local parish Kirk ..
[15:42] <redtape|renegade> strictly it's against 'Cannon law' to sell plots ..
[15:43] <daftykins> 0o
[15:43] <redtape|renegade> however .. because she has a receipt ' now framed on the wall' .. with a tax code .. they cant stop her ..
[15:43] <daftykins> hah
[15:43] <redtape|renegade> We keep having a laugh .. and saying ..
[15:43] <daftykins> i wouldn't want to waste the islands surface area with a plot personally
[15:45] <redtape|renegade> maybe we should sub-let the plot and give titles like they do in Scottish backwaters to dukes etc .. As it's on religious grounds .. she's thinking of selling titles like 'fairey god mothers of patrick' etc ..
[15:46] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: That's the whole point .. after 999 years they get recycled .. but she has a receipt so they cannot !
[15:46] <daftykins> D:
[15:47] <redtape|renegade> I'm trying to convince her to set up a wifi so everyone can have a proper network when grieving ..
[15:48] <redtape|renegade> .. get this .. we are calling it TPB .. the perpituity broadband ..
[15:48] <redtape|renegade> and technically they cant close it down .. because we'll always have cannon law on her side ..
[15:48] <Seeker`> I have no idea what you are talking about
[15:49] <daftykins> Seeker`: safer that way
[15:49] <redtape|renegade> loopy .. but quite possible..
[15:49] <Seeker`> having a receipt for something that can't be sold doesn't mean you own it.
[15:50] <redtape|renegade> Seeker : As the dude says .. yur obviosly not a golfer .. so shut it, mate .. she does .. forever.
[15:50] <Seeker`> excuse me?
[15:50] <daftykins> Seeker`: island law tends to be a tad different, so it's not worth entering into
[15:51] <redtape|renegade> OT | I'll just put on my tea .. and try to get remotely on topic .. before CH4 news comes on ...
[15:51] <Seeker`> daftykins: it was the "so shut it, mate" which I was questioning. Seems a bit rude.
[15:52] <daftykins> Seeker`: yeah, don't take it personally. i believe it's called humour
[16:28] <^aDaM> Am I right in doing this? I have downloaded 13.04 of Ubuntu just now then downloaded UNetbootin and pointed it to the .ISO > E (USB Pen Drive).
[16:28] <^aDaM> Now the files are copying!
[16:28] <brobostigon> you might want to add some persistance aswell.
[16:29] <^aDaM> brobostigon ouchh, ive already started copying them.
[16:29] <^aDaM> How much persistance do I need to add?
[16:29] <brobostigon> you can kill it, and you should be able to restart it fine.
[16:29] <^aDaM> mmm
[16:29] <brobostigon> however much you will want in more perminant sotorage on it.
[16:30] <^aDaM> Shell I redo :/
[16:30] <brobostigon> it shouldnt do any harm,
[16:30] <^aDaM> mmm well I have reformatted the Pen Drive.
[16:31] <^aDaM> how much shell I add to this what values brobostigon :)
[16:31] <^aDaM> MB even :)
[16:31] <brobostigon> ^aDaM: as i said, depends on how big the usb drive is, and how much you will want in more perminant storage, i cant tell you, on ly you will know.
[16:32] <^aDaM> ahh I see !
[16:32] <^aDaM> its 7GB
[16:32] <brobostigon> ok.
[16:33] <^aDaM> 250mb ? to be safe :D
[16:34] <brobostigon> ok, the image is just under 1gb isnt it? so you will then have 5.75gb of space doing zilch.
[16:35] <daftykins> persistence is only if you're going to run from that drive permanently
[16:35] <daftykins> is that what you're after?
[16:35] <brobostigon> quite.
[16:35] <daftykins> if it's just to install, then there's no reason really
[16:35] <brobostigon> agreed.
[16:35]  * daftykins steps off brobostigon's toes and goes to make a drink :)
[16:39] <^aDaM> ok :) thxx
[16:39] <brobostigon> daftykins: coffee sounds good, :)
[16:39] <^aDaM> 2 sugers daftykins ta ;)
[16:40]  * ^aDaM is currently eating a Magnum ...
[16:43] <redtape|renegade> ^aDaM: Careful .. those things 'll bloww yer head off .. but the Question is ..
[16:43] <redtape|renegade> Do You Feel Lucky Pnk ?
[16:43] <awilkins> brobostigon, the LiveCD format is FAT32, so you can keep other files on it
[16:43] <awilkins> brobostigon, I used to partition them, but there are caveats to that
[16:43] <^aDaM> LOL
[16:44] <awilkins> You have to put the FAT32 "file exchange" partition first or Windows can't see it
[16:44] <brobostigon> awilkins: yes, i knew, but to make it easier for ^aDaM , unetbootin has it built in to create that persistence.
[16:45] <^aDaM> can I boot and install it on a hdd that i have formatted? also I would want to dual boot.
[16:45] <brobostigon> that live media can do an install, yes.
[16:45] <awilkins> Yup, one of the features of a Live install is installing onto others
[16:45] <^aDaM> ahh nice
[16:45] <^aDaM> So if I disconnect this hdd? with windows.
[16:45] <^aDaM> an connect formatted one an do install
[16:46] <^aDaM> then once installed an updated
[16:46] <^aDaM> connect them both backup will it ask what os to boot ?
[16:46] <awilkins> You'd have to update the grub menu
[16:46] <^aDaM> mmm
[16:46] <brobostigon> when the installer installs grub, and it only sees the ubuntu partition, that will set it self to boot off that.
[16:47] <awilkins> If the Windows volume isn't connected when you install, it won't know about it
[16:47] <^aDaM> ahh ok ok
[16:47] <^aDaM> so how would I dual boot with 2 hdd's
[16:47] <^aDaM> I want to add my second one
[16:48] <brobostigon> tell your bios to boot off the one with grub, and then if you installed and it saw your windows disk, grub will be able to boot between both.
[16:48] <awilkins> Connect both, install ubuntu, put Grub on the boot drive that's configured in your BIOS, it will pick up the WIndows volume and list it in Grub
[16:48] <awilkins> It even gives you a longer grub menu timeout if you have 2 or more OSs
[16:49] <^aDaM> :D awilkins an brobostigon thanks :)
[16:49] <brobostigon> :)
[16:49] <^aDaM> So shell I do it the way brobostigon said? to save anything be messed up on my Windows disk?
[16:49] <awilkins> Caveats : if you have full disk encryption on Windows, that may break it
[16:49] <^aDaM> yes!
[16:49] <awilkins> Backups always a good idea
[16:50] <^aDaM> awilkins hahahahaha
[16:50] <^aDaM> I have programmes
[16:50] <brobostigon> certainly, always play safe.
[16:50] <^aDaM> too many
[16:50] <awilkins> Backups are a good idea even if you're NOT dual booting things
[16:50] <^aDaM> im risky
[16:50] <dwatkins> yes, backups
[16:50] <dwatkins> ^aDaM: if the disk fails tomorrow, will you miss its contents?
[16:50] <^aDaM> :
[16:50] <awilkins> Yeah, the downside is a few extra quidbucks in hardware
[16:50] <awilkins> The upside is not going ooooohhhh... dear
[16:51] <dwatkins> what awilkins said
[16:51] <^aDaM> lol
[16:51] <^aDaM> going for fresh install on single hdd
[16:51] <awilkins> Windows in particular is a real PITA to reinstall things on just because so many things have DRM
[16:51] <^aDaM> an will connect my sata's when needed ;)
[16:52] <awilkins> Games ... with activation limits
[16:52] <dwatkins> can you deactivate them, awilkins?
[16:52] <awilkins> dwatkins, Some of them
[16:52] <awilkins> But not after they went "poof" because you nuked your windows install accidentally
[16:52] <^aDaM> that sucks
[16:53] <awilkins> This is why I like Steam and similar
[16:53] <^aDaM> I have Steam :)
[16:53] <dwatkins> awilkins: indeed, at least in some cases you can request additional activations
[16:53] <^aDaM> awilkins add mee what games you play?
[16:53] <awilkins> They might be DRM but they are DRM that provides some useful features
[16:53] <awilkins> Planetside 2 a lot ATM
[16:53] <dwatkins> also, Steam has sales
[16:53] <^aDaM> Nice :)
[16:53] <^aDaM> BB
[16:53] <^aDaM> time me yall
[16:53] <^aDaM> 1753
[16:53] <dwatkins> BB?
[16:54] <^aDaM> be back
[16:54] <^aDaM> off to install
[16:54] <^aDaM> 1754.. need to dig hddd out yet
[16:54] <dwatkins> gz
[16:54] <dwatkins> ;)
[16:55] <awilkins> Right, time to wend my wicked way home
[16:55]  * daftykins brings in the coffees
[16:55]  * dwatkins issues chmod 666 awilkins 
[16:55] <awilkins> There really should be more cheerleaders on the motorway "Yeah, keep up the spirit, the traffic jam will be over soon, wooooh!"
[16:55] <dwatkins> awilkins: got Waze?
[16:55]  * brobostigon thanks daftykins :)
[16:56] <dwatkins> "It looks like you're in a traffic jam..."
[16:56] <daftykins> awilkins: or less cars, one or the other ;)
[16:56] <awilkins> Yeah, half-lane cars would be good
[16:56] <dwatkins> it's almost clippy-like, but with actul functionality
[16:56] <awilkins> I like the Lit  Motors C1 for looks
[16:56] <awilkins> And the recent news about Lithium-Sulphur batteries raised my optimism level tremendously today
[16:57] <dwatkins> ooh
[16:57] <awilkins> A Lit C-1 with auto-drive and battery pack half the mass and more than twice the range (double energy density, half the mass) would be fabbo
[16:57] <dwatkins> we might not run out of Lithium if we replace petrol cars with ones with batteries?
[16:57] <awilkins> It's all recyclable though
[16:57] <dwatkins> yeah, although the leccy needs to be generated from solar, wind etc. of course
[16:58] <awilkins> And if the batteries have 4x the energy density, you don't need as much lithium
[16:58] <awilkins> The trinity of solutions to human problems ; energy generation, energy storage, molecular manufacturing
[16:59] <awilkins> A 4x more energy dense battery pack is a great leap towards the future - batteries suck, but a lot less today
[16:59] <awilkins> Electric cars are kind of marginal right now, a battery pack half the mass and twice the range will pitch them over the edge of practical
[17:00] <Seeker`> I think it is charging time instead of capacity that kills them though
[17:00] <awilkins> Leccy cars plugged into a smart grid will give the wind farms somewhere to shove spare charge
[17:00] <awilkins> Seeker`, Charge time is only a factor if your range isn't good enough
[17:01] <awilkins> Seeker`, If you have a battery that can reliably do 120 miles on one charge, I'm fine and my commute is larger than most in the UK
[17:01] <Seeker`> there will always be a journey you can do that exceeds the range of the car
[17:01] <naderp> uz
[17:01] <awilkins> Seeker`, Yes, but that's also true of liquid fuels
[17:01] <Seeker`> awilkins: it doesn't take a couple of hours to fill a petrol tank
[17:01] <awilkins> Seeker`, But you're also getting into the kind of range where human endurance is a factor
[17:02] <awilkins> Seeker`, It takes me about 5 hours to drive 250 miles in UK road conditions
[17:02] <dwatkins> also, charge time isn't a factor if you can physically swap-out the battery like Renault are doing
[17:02] <awilkins> At that point, I'd welcome sitting down for an hour or so to recharge MY batteries
[17:02] <dwatkins> the only major downside compared to petrol/diesel cars is that an almost empty battery weighs as much as a full one, then.
[17:02] <awilkins> And I believe the commercial driving laws mandate this kind of pause
[17:03] <Seeker`> that means that it might suit your driving habits
[17:03] <Seeker`> it doesn't mean it suddenly becomes a workable solution for everyone
[17:03] <awilkins> Seeker`, Claiming a solution isn't viable because it only meets the driving habits of 90% of the population doesn't cut it
[17:04] <daftykins> people must adapt!
[17:04] <awilkins> Motorbikes don't meet my requirements because I promised my mom I woudln't drive one until she was dead
[17:04] <dwatkins> I factor in a 15 minute break every 200 miles at bare minimum when driving long distance, 30 minutes would be fine.
[17:04] <awilkins> Does that mean that motorbikes have no place in the vehicle market?
[17:05] <Seeker`> awilkins: I never said that electric cars weren't viable because I promised my mum i wouldn't drive one
[17:06] <awilkins> Seeker`, Yeah, but you're making out like they aren't viable because some people will dislike their charge time or range
[17:06] <awilkins> Both equally as personal as my promises to mom
[17:06] <Seeker`> just that I think there needs to be an improvement in charging time before they can truely be considered a replacement for petrol/diesel engines
[17:07] <dwatkins> as I said, an alternative to charging time is to physically swap-out the battery
[17:07] <awilkins> But they're not an equal replacement for liquid fuel engine cars on any other score either
[17:07] <dwatkins> in commercial vehicles, trucks and so on, this would probably be quite useful
[17:07] <awilkins> Acceleration : much better . Maintenance cost : much better . Range replenishment : much worse.
[17:08] <awilkins> City driving efficiency : much better . Motorway driving efficiency ; a bit better
[17:08] <dwatkins> unless you also allow for 'car trains' with linked navigation systems
[17:09] <awilkins> Comfort : arguably worse (because aircon / heater consumes energy they don't have to spare)
[17:09] <dwatkins> but that's possible for any type of fuel
[17:10] <dwatkins> I worked out the other day that it would cost £6.50 to charge a Tesla from my home, but that I don't have a 70 Amp plug capable of doing so.
[17:10] <awilkins> £6.50 for what, 250 miles, is pretty awesome
[17:11] <awilkins> Amortize the savings on petrol and splash out on a supercharger :-)
[17:11] <dwatkins> yeah, compared even to my diesel turbo Peugeot 306, that's about a fifth the cost, or better
[17:11] <dwatkins> do I need 1.21 Gigawatts for that? ;)
[17:11] <awilkins> I'm running about £13 for 100 miles
[17:11] <awilkins> Petrol, compact car
[17:11] <awilkins> The car park costs me half as much again
[17:12] <dwatkins> costs me about £60 to full my car, I get about 500 miles out of that
[17:12] <awilkins> Similar for a diesel Fabia
[17:12] <awilkins> Getting about 430 miles out of £47 of "posh" petrol in my CitiGo
[17:13] <dwatkins> my parking is about £170 a year for the possibility of a space somewhere near my flat on the side of the road
[17:13] <Seeker`> I have several friends that live on the south coast that have family they visit up north. It takes 5 hours driving with about 30 mins of breaks on the whole journey. If you have to spend a couple of hours sitting there doing nothing mid-journey, thats 7 hours instead of 5
[17:13] <awilkins> (in my xp posh petrol gives better mileage in small cars, enough to justify it's cost)
[17:13] <dwatkins> ...and then there's the MOT and yearly repairs, insurance etc.
[17:14] <dwatkins> Seeker`: I assume that's the north of England - I live in Edinburgh, and it takes me about 8 hours to drive to Berkshire ;)
[17:14] <Seeker`> dwatkins: yeah
[17:14] <awilkins> Seeker`, Well, they would want to weigh up whether saving loadsamoney on their fuel the rest of the year is worth the odd extra 2 hours on an occasional journey
[17:14] <dwatkins> if I had to drive from the north of Scotland to the middle of England, that would probably take most of the daylight hours of a day
[17:14] <awilkins> Or hiring a range extender
[17:14] <awilkins> Trailer hitch + small diesel genny
[17:15] <awilkins> Or just hiring a diesel car for a few days
[17:15] <awilkins> Anyhow, time to hit the road and burn some dirty, dirty, fuel
[17:15] <Seeker`> a small diesel car for a few days is probably getting on for a couple of hundred £, without taking in to account fuel
[17:15] <Seeker`> which wipes out a lot of your daily commute savings
[17:16] <dwatkins> you can hire city cars here for a few hours cheaply
[17:17] <awilkins> Seeker`, I do 300-500 miles a week, that's £40-50 of fuel ; so even halving that, I'd have to be visiting my parents (250 miles away down south) every month to offset the savings
[17:17] <awilkins> I don't visit them every month (I'm a terrible son, obvs.)
[17:17] <daftykins> well, once you've finally escaped, why return? ;)
[17:18] <daftykins> except for free feeds \o/
[17:18] <daftykins> or because they're on the way back from very far away cycle rides \o/
[17:18] <dwatkins> I managed to somehow persuade my parents that they should come and see me instead.
[17:19] <awilkins> Mine are too busy, flippin Rotary Club
[17:19] <dwatkins> It's my ghoddaughter and friends down south that expect me to visit regularly.
[17:19] <daftykins> haha clubs.
[17:21] <Seeker`> I do about 45 miles a week. I probably spend £60/month on fuel. If I had to spend £200 to visit my family in scotland for a week, thats > 3.5 months fuel saving gone
[17:22] <daftykins> surely you'd leave the car at home and train it like a good citizen?
[17:22] <Seeker`> no
[17:22] <daftykins> why ever not D:
[17:22] <Seeker`> I prefer to travel by car
[17:22] <brobostigon> wow, two minecraft pe updates in two days.
[17:23] <daftykins> environment takes another for the team
[17:23] <dwatkins> I take the train when visiting one place, but if I'm travelling around whilst viditing various people, it's much cheaper and easier to drive myself than take trains.
[17:23] <dwatkins> convenience, I know
[17:24] <Seeker`> as soon as more than 1 person is travelling it becomes vastly cheaper to drive
[17:25] <dwatkins> I wish trains were cheaper and you didn't have to book so far in advance.
[17:26] <daftykins> i never booked
[17:26] <daftykins> used to hop along the south coast all the time to visit other Guernsey mates at different Unis
[17:26] <dwatkins> it's vastly more expensive to travel Edinburgh to London if you don't book well in advance
[17:26] <dwatkins> £120 vs £50, iirc
[17:27] <daftykins> mmm, figures
[17:27] <Seeker`> it cost me £60 to get to/from poole last weekend
[17:27] <Seeker`> via train, booking in advance
[17:27] <Seeker`> it is about £25 in petrol each way
[17:29] <Seeker`> 3.5 hours via train, 2 via car
[17:29] <daftykins> traffic is getting pretty insane over here
[17:29] <daftykins> all the one-person-per-car types driving from the north along the east coast into town, to work their finance jobs
[17:29] <daftykins> the queue goes the length of the island ;x
[17:29] <daftykins> that's what irks me
[17:31] <dwatkins> I'm about to start cycling to/from work again, which will be nice.
[17:31] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: redtape .. is just finishing his jam scone .. however I love irk .. must look into patenting the term 'irkle' sometime (priceless) .. Here's wats happening on the course (update) http://t.co/TaO8HyKgmc
[17:32] <daftykins> that's not really how patents work thankfully ;)
[17:32] <Seeker`> patent a word?!
[17:32] <redtape|renegade> soz, meant website to register ..
[17:32] <daftykins> redtape|renegade: this right over your front/back wall?
[17:33] <redtape|renegade> no .. just a tweet that I scoured the barrel for ..
[17:33] <daftykins> ah
[17:34] <redtape|renegade> note to self .. must release the source in future ... https://twitter.com/Lozzerlou/status/343033694396743680
[17:35] <daftykins> bet she put 'em off
[17:35] <dwatkins> always use the source, Luke
[17:36] <daftykins> heh, mates just got his new gaming PC back to his place in England
[17:36] <daftykins> despite some surprise rain at Gatwick apparently
[17:37] <dwatkins> he took a PC on a plane?
[17:39] <daftykins> yep
[17:39] <daftykins> nice quick VAT dodge ;)
[17:39] <redtape|renegade> computers on aircraft .. that'll never catch on ..
[17:39] <daftykins> XD
[17:40] <dwatkins> I vaguely remember hearing most planes run some kind of UNIX, can't remember any details.
[17:40] <redtape|renegade> linux on space craft .. that's a silly notion too ;)
[17:40] <dwatkins> hehe
[17:41] <daftykins> http://www.samsung.com/uk/ssdcashback/
[17:41] <daftykins> gotta get me this at some point
[17:41] <daftykins> a whole £15 cashback! :D
[17:42] <dwatkins> why don't they just lower the price?
[17:42] <daftykins> well it's a benefit for non-lazy people isn't it
[17:42] <daftykins> the idea is they incentive-ise (however you spell that) but you've gotta perform some legwork to get it
[17:42] <daftykins> so the idea is most people will mess it up / forget
[17:43] <daftykins> so they tempt you but may not necessarily lose out on all
[17:43] <redtape|renegade> OT | Whenever will they learn the mean on the golden Rule of 'cashbacks' ?? [ Give a Raspberry Pi alternative instead !! ] obvious really .. you can give to 'the kid' ..
[17:43] <dwatkins> I've discovered recently that buzzwords just hide the true meaning of things.
[17:44] <dwatkins> "persuade" is a much better word than "incentivise", and isn't made up, either ;)
[17:44] <dwatkins> there's also "bribe"...
[17:44] <daftykins> all words are made-up
[17:44] <dwatkins> indeed they are
[17:45] <daftykins> that one's in the dictionary however
[17:45]  * dwatkins rends daftykins with his burbletruncheon see if he doesn't
[17:45] <dwatkins> my point exactly :)
[17:45] <daftykins> i have no idea what that was about
[17:45] <dwatkins> oh frettled gruntbuggily...
[17:46] <dwatkins> It's from the Vogon poetry in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
[17:46] <daftykins> well i sense the prior topic is no longer under debate
[17:46] <daftykins> so i shall go and add hot water to my drain cleaner
[17:46] <dwatkins> have you left it the required 20 minutes?
[17:49] <redtape|renegade> found a great word recently in a literary pub ..
[17:49] <redtape|renegade> Bloke said ..
[17:50] <redtape|renegade> Look if you don't agree with me you can pick yur **defenistration** .. classic XD  from the 1700's .. arguement over, matey ..
[17:50] <dwatkins> yus, antiwindoment
[17:51] <redtape|renegade> slight error .. it's from the 1400's appatrently .. must do bettr there ..
[17:53] <dwatkins> the days of window tax
[17:53]  * redtape|renegade wonders if that's a good blog for anti-windows hacks ..  | ' facepalm ' [ stay on topic redtape. Plz ]
[17:53] <dwatkins> there's a topic?
[17:54] <redtape|renegade> ooBuntoo apparently ..
[17:54] <redtape|renegade> without popeyious .. the mice will play  ....         thou
[17:54] <dwatkins> first hit for "ubuntu blog" in Google is http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[17:55] <redtape|renegade> opening .. it's like a pokemon site, No ?
[17:55] <daftykins> dwatkins: required 5 yes
[17:55] <daftykins> although due to IRC it was more like 35...
[17:56] <dwatkins> daftykins: probably fine by now, then, yeah
[17:56] <dwatkins> wash it down well, obv.
[17:57] <daftykins> full kettle of warmed water
[17:57] <daftykins> still seems to smell =|
[17:57] <redtape|renegade> Ubuntu -Box .. ??  Come on OMGooBuntoo  .. you've gone wrong .. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/ubuntu-pc-case-mod
[17:57] <dwatkins> daftykins: with any luck, that's the biomatter dissolving in the pipes
[17:58] <daftykins> ah nah the smell was what was to begin with that i wanted rid of
[17:58] <daftykins> :>
[17:58] <dwatkins> oh bah
[17:58] <dwatkins> did you take the bottom of the U-bend?
[17:58] <dwatkins> *off
[17:58] <daftykins> newp
[17:58] <daftykins> that'd be option 2
[17:58] <dwatkins> (only do so above a bucket, of course)
[17:58] <dwatkins> yeah, chances are something smelly is trapped in there
[17:59] <daftykins> i just happened to have drain unblocker from doing the shower prior
[17:59] <daftykins> that was quite exotic >_<
[17:59] <redtape|renegade> there . is and it costs £4 to replace [redtape has XPce] ..
[17:59] <dwatkins> I ruined the chrome on my bath overflow with strong acid
[18:00] <redtape|renegade> you bathe in acid ? seems legit !
[18:00] <daftykins> i'm really not fond of the ubuntu logo
[18:00] <daftykins> dwatkins: whoops
[18:00] <dwatkins> redtape|renegade: no, I was trying to clear out the drains due to bad smells
[18:00] <redtape|renegade> daftykins: The secret about the logo .. is that it's a gif .. it's really an Uber fan ..
[18:01] <redtape|renegade> it's just Mark tell everyone which way the axel moves ..
[18:01] <redtape|renegade> **tells ..
[18:02] <daftykins> what you're saying makes no sense to me :(
[18:02] <redtape|renegade> I guess you had to see the youtube video sorry ..
[18:03] <redtape|renegade> (if you give it a lot of thought - and turn the circle into a turbine like fan- you'll get it ..)
[18:04] <redtape|renegade> ofcourse you cant see the 3d efect with a 2d logo .. so it's a secret .. but maybe I'm mad .. too much jam today ..
[18:04] <daftykins> uh-ohs who let you have the jam?
[18:05] <redtape|renegade> I got a taste for it of a lady called Joy ;)
[18:05] <redtape|renegade> **off
[18:11] <daftykins> i'm heading off
[18:11] <daftykins> later everyone o/
[18:12] <daftykins> enjoy your weekend
[18:12] <redtape|renegade> later .. stay away from jamious .. bye..
[18:12] <daftykins> i'll try
[18:20] <redtape|renegade> OT | Dunno who mentioned "buzzwordz" but here's a foretaste of Caturday .. https://plus.google.com/+BuzzFeed/posts/EmMPscHVqmz
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> Eeee! Loads of new Unity in saucy :)
[18:43] <AlanBell> is that a good thing?
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> I hope so
[18:44] <MartijnVdS> dash is a bit slow in the current one
[18:45] <AlanBell> I am back on gnome shell at the moment
[18:46] <AlanBell> and I have been making this work http://hencam.libertus.co.uk/
[18:46] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: still no hens in sight?
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> ah! at the top of "Run"
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> Computerphile about Raspberry Pi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2HjuZBuo0
[18:47] <brobostigon> activity
[18:47] <AlanBell> yes
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: hewwo!
[18:47] <brobostigon> evening MartijnVdS
[18:48] <brobostigon> nice work AlanBell
[18:58] <redtape|renegade> ooo Ouch slippers would have made him Grandpa Ubuntu :: https://twitter.com/grifferz/status/342892800389574656/photo/1 | Nice one Alan.
[19:48] <mungbean> watching the ch5 d:day programme, pretty good
[20:10] <redtape|renegade> Yay .. I did my first Meme ... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55128914/Lubuntu%20docs/Bug_1_solved_BUT_....png
[21:01] <^aDaM> Took me 5hours and still I did not get any where lol.
[23:00] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[23:00] <bigcalm> Oh, good morning
[23:01] <treb0r> good evening
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[23:02] <redtape|renegade> bigcalm.. Allo ..
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[23:03] <redtape|renegade> !flood
[23:03] <bigcalm> GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGTRGFdc
[23:03] <bigcalm> Kittie on keyboard
[23:04] <redtape|renegade> bigcalm: Had the same problem with them tutoring me on somersaults  https://plus.google.com/108807575261328575617/posts/EmMPscHVqmz
[23:05]  * redtape|renegade tried and tries to do a double one .. but fails at the 'old dog new tricks' stage.
[23:07] <redtape|renegade> oh crap .. I've got a stye in my eye .. or sommit stuck, like a bit of dirt .. .. Quick community .. what should I do
[23:07] <redtape|renegade>                                                                                                                            ^              ^       ???
[23:09] <Seeker`> not panic about it on IRC
[23:09]  * redtape|renegade dies quietly but painfully i the corner ..
[23:10] <Seeker`> i'd be surprised if a bit of dirt in your eye kills you
[23:10] <redtape|renegade> still a bit of life left to do some somber poetry while i die ..
[23:11] <Seeker`> blinking or washing it out would probably be your two options
[23:11] <redtape|renegade> DEATH : The country from which no traveller returns ..  oh right thanks ..
[23:12] <Seeker`> and if it is a stye, let your immune system do its job without complaining you're dying :P
[23:14] <redtape|renegade> .. all ok now .. just been to hell & back .. ^_^
[23:43] <chalcedony> glad you solved it
[23:46] <redtape|renegade> Could'ave been worse .. thought I'd hear .. why dont you google it ? (with my eye in agony)  Anyway i did : & the vikings are useless on the matter .. http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/a/pb/Wallace-Cameron-emergency-eyewash-station/id=6381459/
[23:49] <chalcedony> oh
[23:49] <chalcedony> rinsing it with cold water being a not terrible solution - but first try pulling one lid over the other - use your eyelashes as a handle
[23:51] <redtape|renegade> It's Ok . it's gone now .. just came on all of a sudden . .. Willing to invest in a proper kit though .. http://bit.ly/15UrxFo
[23:57] <redtape|renegade> chalcedony: Have you seen Jono 's effort ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV_8bGUdCd0  .. He calls his Wifi .. "Kensington Pub"  seems tweetable.
[23:58] <chalcedony> redtape|renegade, that is cool!