| kbmonkey | morning | 05:10 |
|---|---|---|
| nuvolari | o/ mornings | 05:51 |
| barrydk | Good morning | 05:54 |
| kbmonkey | o\ morning | 05:56 |
| Kilos | morning all | 06:33 |
| Kilos | ouch Squirm- | 06:33 |
| mazal | More oom Kilos | 06:46 |
| Kilos | môre mazal | 06:47 |
| Kilos | en barrydk | 06:47 |
| Squirm- | according to my thermometer though, it only went down to 1 | 07:01 |
| Kilos | eina | 07:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 07:11 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | happy Friday :) | 07:12 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:12 |
| Kilos | you dont work weekends seems like | 07:12 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nope, not usually | 07:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and tomorrow is my birfday, woop woop!! | 07:13 |
| Kilos | oh my goodness | 07:13 |
| Kilos | will you be online here? | 07:13 |
| Kilos | you older than me , mine is only on the 23rd | 07:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i thought you're like .... 110 or something? | 07:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-p | 07:15 |
| Kilos | rofl | 07:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | won't be here, no | 07:15 |
| Kilos | ya 63 coming up. you close enough | 07:15 |
| Kilos | then i wish you a wonderful happy day lad | 07:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | going to spend the night at a lodge courtesy of friends who run the place | 07:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | dankie oom! :-) | 07:16 |
| Kilos | hmm... you speak the taal too\ | 07:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah, i my mom is afrikaans | 07:19 |
| Kilos | cool | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | and my wife | 07:19 |
| Kilos | cooler | 07:19 |
| Kilos | they very cheeky though | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | this is true | 07:20 |
| Kilos | thats why cantide is going to korea | 07:21 |
| Kilos | i wonder how superfly is getting on | 07:23 |
| Kilos | his server and all are down | 07:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | too busy enjoying the great outdoors to care, if facebook pics are any indication | 07:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:27 |
| Kilos | good he needs a break | 07:27 |
| nuvolari | mornings oom Kilos | 07:46 |
| nuvolari | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:46 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari hoe gaan dit seun | 07:47 |
| nuvolari | dit gaan goed dankie oom, en self? | 07:49 |
| Kilos | ok dankie net koud | 07:53 |
| Kilos | is jy gesond weer? | 07:53 |
| nuvolari | amper oom | 07:54 |
| nuvolari | ek sou sê 95$ | 07:54 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:54 |
| nuvolari | er, % | 07:54 |
| Kilos | ek het gedink daai lug ouens het jou gesteel van ons | 07:55 |
| n8wulf | Hi all | 08:09 |
| Kilos | aw | 08:13 |
| N8Wulf__ | how are you guys keeping | 08:36 |
| Kilos | hi N8Wulf__ good ty and you | 08:36 |
| Kilos | you been a stranger here hey | 08:37 |
| N8Wulf__ | I went to experiment, but found out that life outside ubuntu is VERY DAAAARK | 08:37 |
| Kilos | haha | 08:37 |
| Kilos | what did you try? | 08:37 |
| N8Wulf__ | i tried Porteus (a slax spin) looks and works nice, but it's a frugal install onto hdd | 08:38 |
| N8Wulf__ | that sux within a week for a day2day user | 08:39 |
| N8Wulf__ | then I had a look at ARCH.. | 08:39 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:39 |
| N8Wulf__ | eish! | 08:39 |
| Kilos | yeah ubuntu takes some beating hey | 08:40 |
| N8Wulf__ | tried some spin which makes it easier to install etc... Massive headache to install anything. Dependency HELL!!!! | 08:40 |
| Kilos | no package manager? | 08:40 |
| Kilos | or aptitude | 08:40 |
| N8Wulf__ | does have one, but still limited packages, and even within, it cant resolve all dependencies. | 08:41 |
| Kilos | ouch | 08:41 |
| N8Wulf__ | i've never seen a situation where you try to install eg Skype, it DLs the App, then stops and says some dependencies not met | 08:42 |
| N8Wulf__ | then I try to install the dependencies | 08:42 |
| N8Wulf__ | which stops with notice that ather dependencies are not met | 08:43 |
| N8Wulf__ | vicious circle | 08:43 |
| Kilos | oh gdebi does that sometimes in ubuntu | 08:43 |
| N8Wulf__ | i even tried different package managers, but to get that installed also meant other dependencies issues | 08:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:44 |
| N8Wulf__ | but ubuntu still gives least issues. It's loverly inside tha warm embrace of Uncle Mark | 08:44 |
| Kilos | yeah | 08:45 |
| N8Wulf__ | got a fun News bit this week. A friend of mine moved to Cpt about 9 yrs back, just before he did, I installed Dual boot windows and PinguyOS for him... he finally did a re-install this week | 08:46 |
| Kilos | wow | 08:46 |
| N8Wulf__ | Linux lasted him a full 9 years, Win crashed Looong time ago, he just didn't bother until now | 08:46 |
| Kilos | i battled to keep windows going for more than a month | 08:47 |
| Kilos | ah i see | 08:47 |
| N8Wulf__ | just gonna reboot quick, I'm doing the Install and Update bit | 08:47 |
| Kilos | ok | 08:47 |
| N8Wulf__ | btw... I figured out my reason for treason | 08:49 |
| Kilos | lol tell me | 08:49 |
| Kilos | are you installing 13.04 now | 08:50 |
| Kilos | is that reason for treason a game | 08:50 |
| N8Wulf__ | (blush) ... I needed a proper KDE4 setup to tickle my need for flash and wow, instead of just looking at kubuntu, I got sidelined after using Bodhi with E17 until last week | 08:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:51 |
| Kilos | smile was also on bodhi but came to ubuntu as well | 08:51 |
| N8Wulf__ | not a game no, but maybe I should coin the phrase, then maybe someday someone will wanna buy the Rights of me | 08:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:52 |
| N8Wulf__ | did u try recent bodhi as well? | 08:52 |
| Kilos | not me no, im a buntu fan | 08:52 |
| N8Wulf__ | afk quickly | 08:52 |
| Kilos | just tried xubuntu and crunchbang | 08:53 |
| Kilos | now i use ubuntu kubuntu both in 12.04 and maverick on another drive | 08:55 |
| Kilos | 12.04 is very stable | 08:55 |
| N8Wulf_ | small irro now | 09:22 |
| N8Wulf_ | I did register and identify my Nick on the Nickserver, but now my nick shows here with the extra _ | 09:23 |
| N8Wulf | Ha! I am no _ anymore | 09:25 |
| N8Wulf | Maja Faja | 09:25 |
| N8Wulf | any of you guys have a look at the WPS office suite? | 09:26 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:27 |
| Kilos | very quiet here the last month or so N8Wulf | 09:29 |
| Kilos | fly on holiday and the pro moved to new premisies so major work in his lap | 09:30 |
| N8Wulf | sal ek 'n Skinderstorie begin? | 09:30 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:30 |
| Kilos | van wie? | 09:30 |
| N8Wulf | Samsung.. | 09:30 |
| N8Wulf | I seems like they are set to loose a foothold on the Android market | 09:31 |
| N8Wulf | have you seen the HTC and Sony Xperia phones | 09:31 |
| Kilos | na i just got my pc | 09:31 |
| Kilos | dont worry about fones | 09:32 |
| N8Wulf | not hanging and crashing like Samsung does | 09:32 |
| N8Wulf | lol... no Cellphone then? | 09:32 |
| Kilos | im sure the fly dont have probs with his | 09:32 |
| Kilos | ya an old nokia 2730 | 09:32 |
| Kilos | used for checking and getting data for the 3g modem | 09:33 |
| N8Wulf | old school telnet fan then... ;-) | 09:33 |
| Kilos | i seen bb's and touch screen things but too much for me | 09:33 |
| Kilos | for me they arent worth the cost, saving for a fast pc rather | 09:34 |
| N8Wulf | k... tell quick | 09:36 |
| N8Wulf | are you using a proxy cache? | 09:36 |
| Kilos | what? | 09:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:36 |
| N8Wulf | I installed polipo | 09:36 |
| Kilos | i dont use proxy for anything i think | 09:36 |
| N8Wulf | should give it a try, installs easy and it builds a cache of your surfing | 09:38 |
| N8Wulf | makes a difference on browsing speed as well as data usage | 09:39 |
| Kilos | lol i dont surf much. because of the data use | 09:39 |
| Kilos | is it in the repos | 09:39 |
| N8Wulf | jip | 09:40 |
| Kilos | ok lemme look | 09:40 |
| N8Wulf | just do apt-get install polipo | 09:40 |
| N8Wulf | then set your system proxy settings to use 127.0.0.1 and port 8123 as default proxy | 09:41 |
| Kilos | what does that do? | 09:42 |
| N8Wulf | it will save website content like Pics etc on your hdd, next time you open the same website your Browser will first check to see if a copy exists on your HDD before downloading from the web | 09:44 |
| N8Wulf | makes your browsing lots faster if you tend to make use of the same websites | 09:44 |
| N8Wulf | and also saves a lot of data from reDownloading everytime | 09:45 |
| Kilos | oh | 09:45 |
| Kilos | data saving is good | 09:45 |
| N8Wulf | for sure.. and I hate having to wait for a site to reopen after i opened it this morning | 09:47 |
| N8Wulf | this makes it instant | 09:47 |
| Kilos | sounds good | 09:47 |
| Kilos | them settings i find in settings? | 09:47 |
| Kilos | or must i start polipo to do it | 09:48 |
| Kilos | got it i think | 09:52 |
| Kilos | N8Wulf, that isnt gonna affect any thing else is it | 09:52 |
| Kilos | like xchat mail and pidgin | 09:52 |
| Kilos | so its safe to tick apply system wide | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ? | 09:56 |
| N8Wulf | jip | 09:56 |
| Kilos | cool | 09:56 |
| N8Wulf | it only effects cashing of web content for browsers | 09:56 |
| Kilos | ah lekker ty | 09:56 |
| N8Wulf | do you use more than one PC? | 09:56 |
| Kilos | at the moment i have win7 going on the other one | 09:57 |
| N8Wulf | if so you can set the others to use that one PC's cache, making them faster as well and not reCaching again | 09:57 |
| Kilos | connected by direct eth cable | 09:57 |
| Kilos | are you on kubuntu now? | 09:58 |
| N8Wulf | jip | 09:58 |
| N8Wulf | 13.04 | 09:58 |
| N8Wulf | is pretty I say | 09:58 |
| Kilos | support is only 9 months now | 09:58 |
| Kilos | been some changes | 09:59 |
| N8Wulf | I saw... is fine though. Only thing i did see in the Dark that I liked was the idea of a Rolling Update system, whish it was possible somewhere on one of the *buntu spins | 10:01 |
| Kilos | i think 12.04 is the last 5 years lts support version | 10:01 |
| N8Wulf | after installing polipo, check if it's running by opening in your web browser the address... 127.0.0.1:8123 | 10:01 |
| N8Wulf | polipo is about 200kb in size fyi | 10:02 |
| Kilos | oh ya i see the manual there | 10:02 |
| N8Wulf | just gonna run outside quickly... brb | 10:03 |
| Kilos | k | 10:03 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 10:24 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 10:24 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| N8Wulf | Mr Kilos | 10:55 |
| Kilos | yo | 10:56 |
| N8Wulf | did you come right with that polipo? | 10:56 |
| N8Wulf | easy setup hey | 10:56 |
| Kilos | yes ty it seems to be working | 10:56 |
| Kilos | yeah | 10:56 |
| N8Wulf | only thing I couldn't figure out yet is how to keep the cache static when I reboot my PC. Meaning, if you reboot that PC, the saved Cache is gone, ti starts all over again. kinda sucks for use on a Laptop | 10:57 |
| N8Wulf | *it | 10:57 |
| Kilos | does it save to a tmp file | 10:58 |
| Kilos | cant you make it save in a permanent file | 10:58 |
| Kilos | maybe some auto copy of temp on shutdown | 10:59 |
| Kilos | or pipe it somewhere | 10:59 |
| Kilos | lol have you read the whole manual. its massive | 11:01 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| N8Wulf | no, not enough pictures | 11:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:04 |
| N8Wulf | i fall asleep if there's no pictures | 11:05 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:05 |
| mazal | I be too lazy to read manuals | 11:06 |
| mazal | Always struggle tot Piet kom before I read it | 11:06 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 11:06 |
| charl | good afternoon | 11:09 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:09 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 11:09 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 11:09 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 11:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 11:09 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto | 11:09 |
| charl | how's it going | 11:09 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | ok ty, some better today | 11:09 |
| charl | glad to hear! | 11:10 |
| charl | i was in utrecht yesterday | 11:10 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:10 |
| Kilos | ah whats there? | 11:10 |
| Kilos | i been in our utrecht | 11:10 |
| Kilos | northern natal | 11:10 |
| charl | big city with lots of stuff, shops, "grachten", etc | 11:11 |
| charl | amazing churches | 11:11 |
| charl | architecture etc | 11:11 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:11 |
| charl | no idea never been to utrecht in natal | 11:11 |
| Kilos | tiny place | 11:11 |
| charl | no that's very different, utrecht nl is huge | 11:11 |
| charl | http://imgur.com/a/blrtS/all | 11:11 |
| charl | all the photos i took yesterday, just uploaded them | 11:12 |
| charl | there are also some photos of this : http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winkel_van_Sinkel | 11:12 |
| charl | was a lot of fun | 11:13 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! | 11:13 |
| Kilos | Maaz, dankie | 11:13 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier Kilos my vriend | 11:13 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 11:13 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 11:13 |
| charl | took a few photos of this too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Martin%27s_Cathedral,_Utrecht | 11:18 |
| charl | the dutch article is better though http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_van_Utrecht | 11:19 |
| Kilos | some nice old buidings hey | 11:20 |
| Kilos | not all glass and steel | 11:20 |
| charl | yup | 11:22 |
| charl | i can't even begin to think how much work it was to construct though | 11:23 |
| charl | it was _massive_ | 11:23 |
| Kilos | thats all they had back then was time | 11:23 |
| charl | and amazingly detailed | 11:23 |
| Kilos | yeah | 11:23 |
| charl | lol | 11:23 |
| N8Wulf | ek het maar my eie koffie gaan ingooi | 11:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:27 |
| mazal | Maaz, hoekom kry ons nie ? | 11:27 |
| Maaz | mazal: What? | 11:27 |
| mazal | Maaz what do you mean what ? | 11:27 |
| Maaz | mazal: I'm afraid I have no idea | 11:27 |
| Kilos | julle slaap | 11:27 |
| mazal | Maaz, what what ? | 11:27 |
| Maaz | mazal: What? | 11:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 11:27 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 11:27 | |
| mazal | Maaz, you making fun of me ? | 11:27 |
| Maaz | mazal: Sorry... | 11:27 |
| N8Wulf | yeah, fell asleep with that polipo userguide | 11:28 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:28 |
| N8Wulf | had to spike my cafe with some Bioplus quickly | 11:28 |
| Kilos | charl, look at polipo | 11:28 |
| N8Wulf | but eish... Apple Flav Bioplus dont do coffee good | 11:28 |
| Kilos | how do you make it save the cache on rebooting | 11:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:29 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 11:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 11:31 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 11:31 |
| N8Wulf | polipo.. it seems like you have to manually go to status and then press the Write out in-memory cache to get it to save before reboot etc | 11:33 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:34 |
| Kilos | hard work that | 11:34 |
| N8Wulf | I'll keep searching though... is still easier and friendlier on Sys resources than Squid | 11:36 |
| N8Wulf | ref: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11881 | 11:38 |
| N8Wulf | I'm jsut gonna use these DNS servers instead, which tested as ZA's fastest DNS servers: | 11:38 |
| N8Wulf | 196.14.239.2 ; 196.2.45.101 ; 196.41.0.11 | 11:39 |
| N8Wulf | in that order Fasest to slowest of the 3 | 11:39 |
| Kilos | i didnt install that pdnsd | 11:40 |
| Kilos | more configuring | 11:42 |
| N8Wulf | I'm gonna try that as part of the mix... I've tested Polipo for about a week now | 11:43 |
| Kilos | Maaz, tell kbmonkey http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=11881 | 11:43 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Got it, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode | 11:43 |
| Kilos | maybe thats what is needed | 11:44 |
| mazal | What is polipo ? | 11:44 |
| Kilos | ive installed it but stopped by the window it pops up | 11:45 |
| Kilos | its in the repos mazal | 11:45 |
| Kilos | data saving tool | 11:45 |
| mazal | Ah ok | 11:45 |
| Kilos | and internet speed up if you go to same sites often | 11:45 |
| N8Wulf | Kilos: I usually add the above DNS servers to my Network config instead of using my ISP DHCP provided settings... you will notice a improvement in general browsing speed as well | 11:48 |
| Kilos | i dunno how to do that | 11:49 |
| N8Wulf | Mazal: It's a website cache, saving you time, saving you moey, putting you on the Net faster | 11:49 |
| Kilos | 8ta does what it like here | 11:49 |
| N8Wulf | all ISPs do, but you can change on your PC network settings that just the IP must be DHCP, DNS you hardcode then | 11:50 |
| Kilos | in network manager? | 11:54 |
| Kilos | i dont see where to change that | 11:54 |
| Kilos | im bang to fiddle in case i lose connection completely | 11:55 |
| N8Wulf | Kilos | 12:29 |
| N8Wulf | sorry, I got side tracked | 12:29 |
| Kilos | np | 12:29 |
| N8Wulf | your network settings on your PC... where you set your IP settings | 12:30 |
| Kilos | ya same as yours in network manager | 12:30 |
| Kilos | on kde its that icon bottom right i think | 12:30 |
| N8Wulf | network manager or wicd | 12:31 |
| N8Wulf | thats correct yes on mine | 12:31 |
| N8Wulf | have you got your DNS changed to the above server IPs? | 12:31 |
| Kilos | all that ip stuff you do on eth | 12:32 |
| Kilos | mobile dont give them options i think | 12:32 |
| magespawn | afternoon all | 12:34 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 12:34 |
| charl | Kilos: polipo... looks interesting | 12:34 |
| charl | this one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polipo | 12:34 |
| charl | i think i have heard of it before but never used it | 12:34 |
| Kilos | ya if it can speed up open links and save data thats kiff | 12:35 |
| charl | what were you planning on using it for exactly? | 12:35 |
| N8Wulf | hi magespawn | 12:35 |
| charl | i'm not a huge fan of proxy servers myself... | 12:36 |
| N8Wulf | no specific use, I mentioned it to Kilos by the way | 12:36 |
| N8Wulf | it's for localhost caching | 12:36 |
| Kilos | saving data by not downloading everything from a site the second or more times | 12:36 |
| charl | i see, but your browser also uses a cache right? | 12:36 |
| N8Wulf | save a bit on data and speed up browsing generally | 12:36 |
| charl | if it's only for your own use | 12:36 |
| charl | hmmm, because of stale caches | 12:37 |
| charl | *be cafeful | 12:37 |
| N8Wulf | browser cache is only relevant if you press the Back button mostly | 12:37 |
| N8Wulf | polipo is a system wide cache | 12:37 |
| charl | 10 years ago i could understand it but these days i don't see the point honestly | 12:37 |
| N8Wulf | so if you browse for FF, then Chrome, then opera, all will benefit from the global cache | 12:38 |
| N8Wulf | mobile data | 12:38 |
| charl | yeah but most users don't just switch between browsers that much | 12:38 |
| charl | usually you use certain browsers consistently for certain purposes | 12:38 |
| N8Wulf | expensive... and I hate waiting for a website to open after i just opened it this morning | 12:38 |
| charl | if you are on mobile and you have a very strict monthly data limit i can understand it but most people are not on the road the whole time | 12:39 |
| charl | and you often use wifi at cafe's or on the train | 12:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:39 |
| N8Wulf | ... true... there is a definite gain in Load time of websites though | 12:39 |
| N8Wulf | gain meaning faster | 12:40 |
| Kilos | if it was no good it wouldnt be in ubuntu repos | 12:40 |
| N8Wulf | not all of us are on LTE sadly... and Telkom still limits speed to "Up to 4Mb" etc | 12:40 |
| charl | Kilos: i'm not talking as much about the implementation... more about the principle | 12:40 |
| N8Wulf | (thumbs up) at Kilos | 12:40 |
| charl | i would rather invest time into finding a good browser plugin or tweaking the browser cache settings | 12:41 |
| Kilos | charl, you forget about us mobile peeps here in the homeland | 12:41 |
| magespawn | is it lighter than squid? | 12:41 |
| charl | Kilos: ??? | 12:41 |
| N8Wulf | yeah... jsut a general..."have you seen this? maybe you could use it" suggestion | 12:41 |
| N8Wulf | much liter | 12:41 |
| N8Wulf | and no config needed | 12:41 |
| Kilos | us okes on 3g here in za | 12:42 |
| N8Wulf | download is about 200kb | 12:42 |
| magespawn | hhhmm might try it at the school then | 12:42 |
| charl | we have 3g in europe too, it's also very expensive and traffic is limited to a couple of hundred megabytes of a few gigabytes per month | 12:42 |
| charl | a couple of large companies like vodafone and t-mobile have monopoly | 12:43 |
| Kilos | how many of those you know there use 3g charl | 12:43 |
| magespawn | charl: i pay about R159 rand for 500mb on prepaid | 12:43 |
| Kilos | smile says it is too expensive so he stays ofline when away from home | 12:43 |
| Kilos | oh and psy as well | 12:44 |
| charl | Kilos: a lot of people have smartphones so i would say a good deal, but those are mostly contract users | 12:44 |
| charl | prepaid in NL (not sure of other EU countries) is super expensive | 12:44 |
| N8Wulf | you guys must seriously look into Cell C... even prepaid is best | 12:44 |
| Kilos | magespawn, thats heavy | 12:45 |
| Kilos | i get 2+1 for that | 12:45 |
| N8Wulf | I buy R300 airtime, get 900minutes CellC to CellC, 300 minutes to other networks, and I get 900Mb | 12:45 |
| charl | Kilos: i agree with smile though, i am the same, if i can't get wifi i don't bother | 12:45 |
| magespawn | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/79725-r329month-for-40mbps-icasa.html | 12:45 |
| Kilos | N8Wulf, dont you get 8ta there | 12:45 |
| Kilos | telkom bobile | 12:46 |
| N8Wulf | 8ta is here as well... what can you tell me? | 12:47 |
| Kilos | R149 gets you 2g normal time and 1g after 11pm till 5am | 12:47 |
| Kilos | so 3 gigs data for R149 | 12:48 |
| charl | magespawn: that's about 25 euro per month for 40mbit, that's not bad even for european terms | 12:48 |
| N8Wulf | Kilos: prepaid? | 12:48 |
| charl | that is *if* it is consistent quality bandwidth with low ping | 12:49 |
| magespawn | that is not here yet charl, that is what icasa says we should be paying | 12:49 |
| Kilos | whats prepaid | 12:50 |
| charl | makes sense | 12:50 |
| Kilos | pay as you go kinda | 12:50 |
| charl | would be in line with international norms so it sounds right | 12:50 |
| charl | although, 40mbps is still slow for a landline connection | 12:50 |
| charl | ok for a beginner package | 12:50 |
| mazal | Ja we are paying over R400 for only 4mbs right now | 12:53 |
| mazal | Without data | 12:53 |
| mazal | Then the data must still be added | 12:53 |
| Kilos | eeek | 12:53 |
| mazal | And without line rental , that must still be added too | 12:53 |
| Kilos | ouch | 12:53 |
| N8Wulf | Kilos: what you mean eeek? | 12:54 |
| Kilos | but thats for the whole place | 12:54 |
| mazal | That's for landlines in SA | 12:54 |
| Kilos | N8Wulf, i spend R149 every 2 months | 12:54 |
| N8Wulf | where you from Kilos? | 12:54 |
| Kilos | im in pta | 12:54 |
| charl | yeah that's ridiculous | 12:55 |
| charl | but i get a sense that prepaid is much better in .za than in .eu | 12:55 |
| charl | problem is with contract you have to typically sign yourself in for 2 years | 12:55 |
| charl | i have "commitment problems" lol\ | 12:55 |
| N8Wulf | charl: same here | 12:55 |
| N8Wulf | contract comment | 12:56 |
| Kilos | N8Wulf, the 2+1 isnt contract | 12:56 |
| mazal | Bye all , enjoy the weekend | 12:56 |
| Kilos | lekker for 3g modem use | 12:56 |
| Kilos | cheers mazal | 12:56 |
| charl | ciao magespawn | 12:56 |
| charl | sorry i meant mazal | 12:56 |
| charl | tab problem again | 12:57 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:57 |
| magespawn | no worries | 12:58 |
| charl | magespawn: regarding your earlier comment, 12 euro per month for 500 mb prepaid is about the same as you would pay with https://simpel.nl/ | 13:00 |
| charl | that isn't so bad for mobile but it's a 2-year commitment :) | 13:01 |
| charl | again, me and my commitment issues :P | 13:01 |
| charl | ok i'm off | 13:11 |
| charl | have a good weekend all! | 13:11 |
| Kilos | you too | 13:11 |
| Kilos | grrr | 13:11 |
| N8Wulf | Kilos: had a chance to look at WPS (Kingsoft) office? | 13:18 |
| Kilos | you did? | 13:18 |
| N8Wulf | jip | 13:18 |
| Kilos | and ? | 13:19 |
| N8Wulf | nice GUI upgrade from Libre, if one wishes a MS Office 2012 could be OSS for linux | 13:19 |
| Kilos | lol i dont use any office stuff | 13:20 |
| Kilos | even removed them from my launcher | 13:20 |
| N8Wulf | supports docx etc format better than Libre, and looks & works just like MS 2012 | 13:20 |
| Kilos | some files open with it though | 13:20 |
| N8Wulf | ouch | 13:20 |
| N8Wulf | ok | 13:20 |
| Kilos | office stuff is for clever peeps | 13:21 |
| N8Wulf | lol... or those that still have to either work for their money, or have to type a reply to the lawyers now and then | 13:23 |
| N8Wulf | guilty and guilty | 13:24 |
| N8Wulf | http://www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://mosayanvala.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/screenshot-from-2013-03-04-133815.png&imgrefurl=http://mosayanvala.wordpress.com/tag/linux-2/&h=900&w=1600&sz=746&tbnid=RcDCJoVjXateLM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=111&zoom=1&usg=__-d3_CpYnBTxLa-RcyIWkHk2mjYg=&docid=4k80YjgbYTWOAM&sa=X&ei=Xd6xUeKgArOf7AbrxIHICA&ved=0CFoQ9QEwBw&dur=565 | 13:24 |
| N8Wulf | FYI | 13:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:24 |
| N8Wulf | well, anyways, so far so good, my Kubuntu install and Customise went without a hitch (predictably) | 13:25 |
| N8Wulf | I need to go get the PS3 Dance stars going for my kids | 13:25 |
| Kilos | you can shorten links with maaz hey | 13:25 |
| N8Wulf | anybody here use Mind Mapping software? | 13:26 |
| Kilos | ok | 13:26 |
| N8Wulf | maaz? | 13:26 |
| Kilos | ya the bot | 13:26 |
| Kilos | you pm it then type in shorten and the link | 13:26 |
| Kilos | watch | 13:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, shorten http://www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://mosayanvala.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/screenshot-from-2013-03-04-133815.png&imgrefurl=http://mosayanvala.wordpress.com/tag/linux-2/&h=900&w=1600&sz=746&tbnid=RcDCJoVjXateLM:&tbnh=62&tbnw=111&zoom=1&usg=__-d3_CpYnBTxLa-RcyIWkHk2mjYg=&docid=4k80YjgbYTWOAM&sa=X&ei=Xd6xUeKgArOf7AbrxIHICA&ved=0CFoQ9QEwBw&dur=565 | 13:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: That reduces to: http://is.gd/nGC1tx | 13:27 |
| N8Wulf | http://goo.gl/VkoFC | 13:27 |
| N8Wulf | or right click in Chrome and select Shorten .... lol | 13:27 |
| Kilos | how did you do it | 13:27 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:27 |
| Kilos | that is a massive link | 13:28 |
| N8Wulf | when last did you see MS office? | 13:28 |
| Kilos | shortens well though | 13:28 |
| Kilos | whew years back | 13:28 |
| Kilos | 2007 i think | 13:29 |
| N8Wulf | so seeing that screenshot... looks familiar dont you think? | 13:29 |
| Kilos | yeah | 13:29 |
| N8Wulf | much cheaper though | 13:29 |
| Kilos | libre office is free | 13:30 |
| N8Wulf | bbl | 13:30 |
| Kilos | k | 13:30 |
| N8Wulf | that one too | 13:30 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:30 |
| N8Wulf | for any intrested parties: It's originally in Chinese, to get it, install it and change it to English: | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | 1. First of course we must download WPS office for ubuntu / debian from here (http://community.wps.cn/download/){http://goo.gl/U9mzN } and double click to install it. | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | 2. Open the application to make sure it works well on our ubuntu's laptop/pc (just what i did ) | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | 3. Close the application | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | 4. Open terminal (ctrl + alt + t) | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | 5. Type: | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | Code: | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | cd /opt/kingsoft/wps-office/office6/2052 | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | 6 Type: | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | Code: | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | sudo rm qt.qm wps.qm wpp.qm et.qm | 13:34 |
| N8Wulf | Now, open the application again, and thank's God... the UI changes to english version | 13:34 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 13:46 |
| magespawn | everything just had a hissy and went off line here | 13:46 |
| Kilos | aw | 13:46 |
| Kilos | our internet really needs some work done to its | 13:47 |
| Kilos | it | 13:47 |
| magespawn | something went wrong somewhere for sure | 13:47 |
| Kilos | i hate the sms function. if they arent stealing your airtime its a sangoma thats thrown the bones and wants to tell you about it a R1 a day | 13:56 |
| Kilos | i dont even put airtime on my mtn anymore because it disappears over night | 13:57 |
| Kilos | grrr | 13:57 |
| Kilos | and that stupid sagem is locked to mtn | 13:58 |
| magespawn | is this on win Kilos? | 14:05 |
| Kilos | cellphone | 14:06 |
| Kilos | old kind | 14:06 |
| magespawn | oh right sagem cell, from glomail or one of those places | 14:07 |
| magespawn | there are ways to unlock phone | 14:08 |
| magespawn | s | 14:08 |
| Kilos | i dunno, boet gave it to me years ago | 14:08 |
| Kilos | and i cant find how to unlock it | 14:08 |
| Kilos | this particular model that is | 14:08 |
| Kilos | my 404x | 14:09 |
| magespawn | it is hoem time, later Kilos | 14:25 |
| magespawn | home even | 14:25 |
| Kilos | go safe | 14:25 |
| Kilos | oh my, look how min we are | 14:34 |
| Kilos | hi georgelappies | 14:34 |
| Kilos | and Georgl | 14:34 |
| Kilos | who_da_fly, you here? | 14:34 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos how are you? | 14:46 |
| Kilos | good ty and you | 14:47 |
| Kilos | wb SilverCode | 14:51 |
| === who_da_fly is now known as superfly | ||
| superfly | Hi Kilos | 16:29 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly hows by you? | 16:31 |
| superfly | Cool | 16:32 |
| Kilos | weve had bad internets | 16:32 |
| superfly | As in temperature | 16:32 |
| Kilos | you enjoying every minute | 16:32 |
| Kilos | cool is good. its freezing down in capetown i think | 16:32 |
| superfly | Oh. I don't have anything better than edge at the moment, and that's the best I've had for most of the holiday | 16:33 |
| Kilos | gonna snow in the mountains there tonight | 16:33 |
| Kilos | even your server is offline i think | 16:33 |
| superfly | No, otherwise I wouldn't be able to connect | 16:35 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 16:35 |
| Kilos | only mrs fly then | 16:35 |
| superfly | She hasn't actually logged in in ages | 16:37 |
| Kilos | ah ok. as long as you enjoying the break alls good | 16:38 |
| superfly | Yup | 16:39 |
| superfly | Which mountains? We're in the middle of nowhere at the coast in the Eastern Cape | 16:40 |
| Kilos | north of capetown | 16:40 |
| Kilos | looked like there by that cold place | 16:41 |
| Kilos | sutherland | 16:41 |
| Kilos | oh , you on your way back? | 16:52 |
| Kilos | there is a big cold front going over capetown now | 16:53 |
| Kilos | will watch the weatheragain at 19.25 | 16:53 |
| superfly | Well only be back in Cape Town on Sunday | 17:12 |
| Kilos | whew going into the cold. natal weather was good to you i hope | 17:12 |
| superfly | If by cold you mean, "had to wear a t-shirt" yes, it was cold | 17:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:14 |
| Kilos | i love natal | 17:14 |
| Kilos | sunday snow alone mountain ranges from left of PE all the way into natal | 17:29 |
| superfly | We'll be driving plettenberg bay to Muizenberg | 17:45 |
| Kilos | ok just go safe whichever way. and say hi mrsfly for me | 17:55 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:22 |
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