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OvenWerkszequence: downloaded ubuntu-gnome. Can't run the live ISO.02:12
OvenWerksSo I am missed :(02:12
OvenWerksmissed again.02:26
OvenWerkszequence: downloaded ubuntu-gnome. Can't run the live ISO.02:26
OvenWerksTyping from a VT02:26
OvenWerkswILL try up stairs on an intel video chip02:27
OvenWerksYa, works up here02:33
OvenWerksGa!, seems so disorganized02:36
OvenWerksI guess I still need an app menu :)02:39
OvenWerksAs happens, I just had to turn it on02:40
OvenWerksThe gnome menu seems to be buggy too, but I will have to try over riding it to be sure02:43
OvenWerksMy menu package seems to work in gnome shell too02:50
OvenWerksfixing bug...02:50
OvenWerksHmm, still there...02:54
OvenWerksI am not sure if that is because I am on the live ISO or if the menu file is not the one I am tweeking. It may be there is another. gnome shell is ok02:57
OvenWerksso long as the menu can be turned on. I have found the app search works well though, once I know what app I am looking for. 02:58
OvenWerksI am not used to the way workspaces are accessed either. ut maybe that is just another setting too.02:59
OvenWerksust figgered out workspaces.03:01
OvenWerksNice03:03
OvenWerksI could use gnome shell... as well as anthing else. (except unity, though I hear that is getting better)03:04
zequenceseems like I finally got my connection fixed03:06
OvenWerksKDE works best for my desktop though.03:07
zequenceI had to change the MAC adress on my router to be able to change my IP03:07
OvenWerksAh.03:07
zequenceI get so weird IP adresses each time I get a new one too03:07
zequencethey have nothing in common at all03:08
OvenWerksAnyway, I would guess our little menu would work with gnome classic too.03:08
OvenWerksI have a static03:08
OvenWerksscott.cbbs.org, aka www.ovenwerks.net03:09
OvenWerksIt means wecan have our own web mail set up03:09
OvenWerksNo adds03:09
OvenWerks(ads?)03:10
OvenWerksAnyway my wife would like her computer back :)03:13
zequenceUnity seems to be using their own set of categories, for application search03:20
zequencenot sure, but it seems that way03:20
zequencegnome-shell is not a problem for us anyway03:20
zequenceI was not able to load Gnome classic just now03:20
OvenWerkszequence: The desktop files (at least the ubuntu ones) have tags as well as categories.04:00
OvenWerksTake a look at the USC one for an example.04:21
cubHi zequence , I saw in the logs that you and NickG talked about Wordpress. I've been fiddling with sites based on Wordpress as well if I can be to any help09:51
zequencecub: How advanced would you say you are at php coding?10:08
cubNot much. I can make wordpress and phpbb look like I want them too, but I'm not a coder10:09
zequenceWell, let's see if Nick can be of some help first. He seems to be fairly advanced. Also, we always have knome, the Xubuntu lead, the author of the theme10:11
zequencecub: What do you usually use Ubuntu Studio for?10:11
cubYes, I was going to ask Nick about his issues with local set up with Apache. I run a couple of local development sites with nginx without any issues10:12
cubMy main reason was for audio recording. But I use it as my main laptop which means gimp work, web design, video editing, libre office and paying bills10:13
zequencecub: If you'd like to help, getting a closer look at our applications, and whether they are well configured and built is something none of us really have the time to do10:20
zequenceI posted a mail about that on the mail list10:20
zequenceaudio is a big workflow10:20
zequenceI suppose there's plenty of stuff in graphics and video too10:20
cubThe one about "Contributors needed to define our workflows"?10:21
zequenceYeah10:21
cubyeah, that's why I asked about the blueprints earlier. I'm trying to figure out what the workflows actually are10:22
cubI was also thinking about the youtube tutorials. Is there a graphic profile available for ubuntu studio, or should I ask the art work team directly?10:23
zequenceWhat do you mean by graphic profile?10:25
zequenceWe really only have one guy doing art right now10:25
zequencethat's our art lead, madeinkobaia10:25
cub:)10:25
zequenceI have a hand in everything, all though, not in producing art so much10:25
cubGraphic profile that states what logos to use, font, sizes, colors and so on.10:26
cubI suppose we should use a title page before all tutorials as well as an end page for credits and information on where to find more info10:27
cuband that they all look the same in terms of logo, colors and fonts10:27
zequenceThat's something we can do afterwards10:27
cubYup10:28
zequenceAfter a few tutorials have been made10:28
zequenceplus, we can re-edit them10:28
zequenceI think it's just up to anyone who wants to make a tutorial, to set the tone10:28
zequenceon artwork, best to talk with madeinkobaia10:28
cubI figure we might start out with a tutorial on how to make tutorials. :D10:28
cubwill do10:28
zequencesimple is best10:29
zequenceall we need is a intro page, and as you suggested, a outro page10:29
zequenceand subs10:30
zequencethe best place to start would be to create the actual tutorial first10:30
cubyes, but some guidelines and perhaps a template would be nice to have10:30
cubso we don't end up with Comic Sans…..10:30
zequencesure, but first we need a tutorial to work on10:31
zequencethe person who start working on it, will most likely be the person who decides the style10:32
zequencewith feedback from the community10:32
cubI'd better hurry up then10:32
zequencethere's a nice word that I picked up from some Debian text, describing the organization10:33
zequencedo-ocracy10:33
cubheh10:33
zequenceDoesn't mean everyone's free to do whatever they want, but as long as no one is having any problems with something, I think it's up to the person who does the work10:34
zequenceoften only one or two people will be even interested in a certain aspect of things10:35
zequencewhich makes the chain of decision making pretty simple10:35
cubsry, gotta focus on some work stuff10:35
cubIs the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/ discontinued?21:26
OvenWerksI haven't looked at it, but we have not had a meeting in a long time.21:26
OvenWerksLike maybe a year and a half or more.21:26
OvenWerksI'll be back in a while... gotta pick my son up.21:27
cublast meeting minutes on the page was from 2012 so it seems about right.21:29
zequenceThere aren't enough active devs in order for there to be a reason to have meetings21:41
zequencebesides, we know pretty well what we need to do21:41
cubAha, I21:46
cub'm just looking around reading different areas to get a grip on things21:47
OvenWerkszequence: the applications menu in gnome shell.. from shell extensions doesn't seem to understand submenus.23:43
OvenWerksI'm running ubuntu gnome. and have found that the gnome classic login doesn't work either23:44
OvenWerksThat may be as a result of a gnome 3 upgrade where gnome classic doesn't exist any more.23:45
NickGI'd reinstall gnome classic if possible.23:46
NickGI tried to install gnome, but it gave me this terrible gnome 3 :(23:46
NickGis mate a possibility?23:46
OvenWerksI am not sure what is up with mate or cinnamon23:49
OvenWerksMint is the iso to try it with23:49
OvenWerksI think one is based on forked gnome2 libs and the other gnome3 libs23:50
DarkEracinnamon will become a more or less independent DE in the near future afaik23:57

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