[06:36] <murthy> hello everyone
[07:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:12] <manenbu> hi
[07:13] <lordievader> Hey manenbu, how are you?
[08:18] <nascentmind> Hi. I want to improve my fonts in kubuntu. The present font which I am using has a lot of washed away look at the edges. How can I fix this.
[08:19] <nascentmind> I want a consistent thick font.
[08:34] <murthy> nascentmind: have to tweaked the anti-aliasing settings?
[08:35] <nascentmind> murthy, done.
[08:35] <nascentmind> murthy, the fonts are thin.
[08:35] <murthy> nascentmind: you mean you tried already?
[08:35] <nascentmind> its not thick and crisp at the edges.
[08:35] <nascentmind> yes
[08:35] <nascentmind> its already enabled.
[08:35] <lordievader> nascentmind: I think I have the same problem on my desktop, haven't found the fix yet :(
[08:36] <nascentmind> since the font is thin i can see patches of background color in between the fonts.
[08:36] <murthy> nascentmind: whats the font that you are using?
[08:36] <murthy> :D
[08:36] <nascentmind> From inconsolata to monospace same problem.
[08:37] <nascentmind> because of the patches the white foreground does not appear bright..
[08:37] <murthy> nascentmind: can you give me your anti-aliasing settings ?
[08:37] <nascentmind> anti alias settings are enabled.
[08:38] <murthy> nascentmind: i mean the values you see when you press the configure button
[08:39] <nascentmind> I have disabled exclude range.
[08:39] <nascentmind> I use sub pixel rendering hinting style full RGB.
[08:39] <murthy> mine is exclude range is disabled, sub-pixel rendering is enabled and it is set to rgb and hinting is set to slight
[08:40] <murthy> I am using ubuntu font
[08:42] <murthy> lordievader: Is there a possiblity that graphics card setting can override the anti-aliasing settings of the apps, I think I have seen something like this for geforce
[08:42] <lordievader> murthy: Might be yes. Where can I find these anti-aliasing settings?
[08:43] <murthy> lordievader: you mean the graphic card's?
[08:43] <nascentmind> murthy, did it make a difference? Mine doesn't
[08:43] <murthy> nascentmind: do you restart the application when ever you make a change to see the change?
[08:44] <lordievader> murthy: Oh well never mind, in the nvidia x config you can override application settings.
[08:44] <lordievader> nascentmind: Do you use an nVidia card?
[08:44] <murthy> lRIGHT
[08:44] <murthy> OOPS
[08:44] <murthy> lordievader: right
[08:44] <nascentmind> yes
[08:44] <lordievader> nascentmind: With the closed source driver?
[08:44] <nascentmind> lordievader, I have a intel card.
[08:45] <murthy> nascentmind: can you change the subpixel rendering to slight and try to re-login and see if it works?
[08:45] <lordievader> Oh I thought you mean: yes, I have an nvidia card.
[08:46] <murthy> me too, nvidia
[08:46] <lordievader> murthy: Ah that subpixel rendering was the one I was looking for.
[08:46] <nascentmind> My amd card screwed up recently. and with it too I have the same problem.
[08:46] <murthy> mine is set to rgb with slight hinting
[08:47] <nascentmind> does this effect gtk rendering too? I use a lot of gtk apps.
[08:47] <murthy> nascentmind: ya, chromium will look screwed
[08:50] <lordievader> Nice murthy, that subpixel thing seems to fix it for me :)
[08:54] <murthy> lordievader: nice :)
[10:16] <RTracer> I need some help
[10:17] <RTracer> I've tried searching the net already so put your lmgtfy.com tabs away
[10:18] <murthy> RTracer: hi, may i try?
[10:18] <RTracer> So whats going on is after a recent update LightDM will not work
[10:19] <RTracer> When I try Alt+F1 and starting it manually, it throws some GLib errors and..
[10:19] <RTracer> I forgot what its called
[10:19] <RTracer> But it core dumbs
[10:19] <RTracer> dumps*
[10:20] <RTracer> segmentation error
[10:20] <RTracer> Thats it
[10:20] <murthy> RTracer: does it work for a guest user?
[10:20] <RTracer> How do you login as a guest in terminal?
[10:21] <RTracer> just Guest in the username?
[10:21] <murthy> RTracer: so you can't even see the greeter :(
[10:21] <RTracer> Nope
[10:21] <murthy> RTracer: I need you to paste a file, can you do that?
[10:22] <RTracer> I dont think so, how will I upload the file?
[10:22] <murthy> RTracer: use paste.kde.org
[10:22] <RTracer> I'm on my laptop right now, isnt there a terminal based web browser or something
[10:23] <RTracer> ?
[10:23] <RTracer> Hm
[10:23] <Artakha> links
[10:23] <RTracer> Lynx
[10:23] <Artakha> links is newer iirc
[10:23] <Artakha> could be wrong tho
[10:24] <murthy> RTracer: I need to see this file "/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log"
[10:24] <RTracer> Alright
[10:25] <RTracer> I'll see if I can grab it
[10:25] <murthy> RTracer: you need to use sudo to access this "/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log"
[10:27] <murthy> RTracer: Also I need to see this file "/var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log"
[10:31] <RTracer> I cant even figure out how to submit the file to paste.kde.org
[10:32] <murthy> RTracer: use a pen drive to get the file to the other system
[10:33] <murthy> RTracer: I guess you are familiar with mounting a drive?
[10:35] <RTracer> Yeah
[10:35] <RTracer> Just need to format it because
[10:36] <RTracer> I dd'd an ISO to it, so its not reconized as a proper drive
[10:47] <RTracer> Sorry its taking a while, Windows cant reconize a
[10:47] <RTracer> USB drive after i've formatted it in Linux
[10:49] <murthy> RTracer: that happends
[10:49] <murthy> RTracer: *happens
[10:51] <RTracer> Yeah, its fucked
[10:51] <RTracer> Well, i'll log into Kubuntu on my laptop, grab the files and come back
[10:51] <RTracer> brb
[10:59] <RTracer> Alright
[10:59] <RTracer> Who was it that was helping me?
[10:59] <RTracer> Here's the first link: http://paste.kde.org/762206/
[11:00] <RTracer> Second link: http://paste.kde.org/762212/
[11:00] <murthy> checking
[11:04] <Artakha> [+66489.44s] DEBUG: Got signal 15 from process 1
[11:04] <Artakha> x crash maybe?
[11:04] <murthy> pssible
[11:04] <murthy> *possible
[11:05] <RTracer> Well, incase it helps, I have an ATI graphics card
[11:05] <murthy> RTracer: have you tried after deleting the .Xauthority file in home dir?
[11:05] <RTracer> Nope
[11:05] <murthy> try that
[11:05] <RTracer> Alright, brb
[11:05] <murthy> sudo killall lightdm
[11:06] <murthy> rm -rf  .Xauthority
[11:06] <murthy> sudo lightdm
[11:08] <armos> hello )))))))))))))))))))
[11:09] <murthy> armos: hi
[11:14] <RTracer> murthy: still doesnt work
[11:15] <murthy> RTracer: can you try reinstalling your graphics driver?
[11:16] <RTracer> I already tried that
[11:16] <RTracer> Both through apt and via the .run file provided by AMD
[11:17] <murthy> RTracer: can you give me one last file?
[11:18] <RTracer> Sure
[11:18] <murthy> RTracer: this file ".xsession-errors" in the home directory
[11:18] <RTracer> Alright, brb
[11:25] <RTracer> Rekonq is unstable as shit in Kubuntu 12.10
[11:26] <RTracer> murthy:  http://paste.kde.org/762224/
[11:26] <murthy> RTracer: run this command in the system that has the issue and tell me what it gives "grep "user-session=" /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[11:27] <murthy> the command is "grep "user-session=" /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf"
[11:27] <murthy> wait
[11:27] <murthy> grep "user-session=" /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[11:27] <murthy> RTracer: the above is the command
[11:28] <murthy> i am checking the file that you gave me now
[11:28] <RTracer> user-session=kde-plasma
[11:30] <RTracer> I reckon, in 100 years, our medical reseach and cures will allow us to live until 250
[11:31] <RTracer> Although, coming to think about it, all the dumbasses in the world will keep life expentancy down a bit
[11:31] <RTracer> Woops, I tend to wonder about with my thoughts, sorry
[11:31] <RTracer> brb
[11:39] <murthy> bbl
[11:40] <RTracer> murthy: how's it going?
[11:40] <RTracer> oh
[11:40] <RTracer> :c
[11:40] <RTracer> ok
[12:36] <birds> ..
[13:29] <tux_> hola
[13:29] <tux_> hola
[13:29] <tux_> hello
[13:29] <lordievader> Hey tux_
[13:29] <tux_> how are you?
[13:30] <lordievader> tux_: Doing good, how about you?
[13:30] <tux_> fine
[13:30] <tux_> where are you from?
[13:31] <lordievader> tux_: Hang around long enough and you'll find out ;)
[13:31] <tux_> hi
[13:31] <murthy> RTracer: are you there?
[13:32] <RTracer> Yeah
[13:32] <murthy> RTracer: have you solved the problem?
[13:32] <RTracer> Nah, I gave up
[13:32] <murthy> RTracer: what to try?
[13:32] <RTracer> I thought I did
[13:32] <murthy> RTracer: *want to try?
[13:33] <murthy> agian?
[13:33] <RTracer> Sure
[13:33] <RTracer> Found anything interesting in the last link I sent you>
[13:33] <RTracer> ?
[13:33] <murthy> RTracer: run the following command and try
[13:34] <murthy> RTracer: sudo dpkg --reconfigure lightdm
[13:34] <RTracer> I tried thata already
[13:34] <RTracer> Didnt work
[13:34] <RTracer> Oh wait
[13:35] <RTracer> Should it work if .Xathority is deleted?
[13:37] <murthy> RTracer: you didn't already try that?
[13:40] <RTracer> No
[13:40] <RTracer> I did delete .Xathorirt
[13:40] <RTracer> Xathority
[13:40] <RTracer> But that didnt work
[13:42] <RTracer> Now it says something about Plymouth
[13:43] <murthy> RTracer: so did you try the command that i gave you now?
[13:43] <RTracer> Yeah
[13:44] <RTracer> Plymouth command failed
[13:44] <RTracer> and Disconnected from Plymouth
[13:44] <RTracer> murthy ^
[13:45] <RTracer> Oh and everytime I run "start lightdm" it doesnt start the first time
[13:46] <murthy> RTracer: what is error that you see in the terminal?
[13:46] <RTracer> none
[13:47] <RTracer> Should I just launch it using "lightdm"
[13:47] <murthy> sudo lightdm
[13:47] <RTracer> Oh I see
[13:48] <RTracer> Those GLib errors again
[13:48] <murthy> tell me
[13:49] <RTracer> GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2720: You forgot to call g_type_init()
[13:50] <RTracer> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion 'result != 0' failed
[13:51] <murthy> RTracer: can you try to login with kdm?
[13:51] <RTracer> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_object_new: assertion 'G_TYPE_IS_OBJECT (object_type)' failed
[13:51] <RTracer> I'll have to get it
[13:51] <RTracer> I tried gdm and that didnt work
[13:51] <RTracer> I'll try kdm
[13:52] <RTracer> btw, that's all the errors
[13:52] <RTracer> aha! KDM works!
[13:53] <RTracer> Wow, I'm acturally at my desktop
[13:53] <RTracer> Thanks murthy
[13:53] <murthy> RTracer: :)
[13:53] <murthy> RTracer: yw
[13:53] <RTracer> I notice there's a game I like to play that doesnt work with a GTK+ theme
[13:53] <RTracer> Maybe the same sorta thing is going on
[13:54] <RTracer> Becuase I get simular errors when I try to launch that game with a GTK+ theme
[13:57] <murthy> RTracer: if you still want to try? we can
[13:57] <RTracer> Why would LightDM do that murthy?
[13:57] <RTracer> any ideas?
[13:58] <murthy> RTracer: two things you could try
[13:58] <RTracer> I guess it'd be nice to play in a GTK theme
[13:58] <murthy> RTracer: 1. do a disk check
[13:58] <murthy> RTracer: 2. check for broken packages
[13:58] <RTracer> I like KDM, it warns me if i'm logged in via TTY
[13:59] <RTracer> if I reboot or shutdown
[13:59] <RTracer> Alright, i'll try those, thanks
[14:00] <DarthFrog> Hi folks.  I've got a head-scratcher with easy tag.  Maybe it's just me. :-)  Anyway, when I launch easytag (from the command line), nothing happens: no feedback, no new line and no program launch.  Nuttin'.  Any ideas?
[14:01] <murthy> DarthFrog: try to see if you get something when you run "strace easytag"
[14:01] <DarthFrog> murthy:  Did that.  Nothing that makes sense to me.
[14:01] <RTracer> How do I do a disk check btw>
[14:01] <RTracer> ?
[14:02] <murthy> RTracer: sudo touch ./forcefsck
[14:02] <DarthFrog> murthy:  it seems to sit in a polling state.
[14:02] <murthy> RTracer: after that restart the system, the disk check will be done during boot
[14:02] <RTracer> Thanks
[14:03] <RTracer> Wait up, which directory is forcefsck in?
[14:03] <murthy> DarthFrog: is the debug enabled for easytag?
[14:03] <murthy> RTracer: root
[14:04] <murthy> oops
[14:04] <murthy> RTracer: sorry
[14:04] <RTracer> Which root
[14:04] <murthy> RTracer: sudo touch /forcefsck
[14:04] <murthy> RTracer: thats the correct one
[14:04] <RTracer> Oh I see, thanks
[14:05] <DarthFrog> murthy:  how would I do that?
[14:05] <murthy> DarthFrog: run debugdialog
[14:05] <murthy> DarthFrog: wait
[14:06] <murthy> DarthFrog: its kdebugdialog
[14:07] <murthy> DarthFrog: untick disable all debug output in that dialog and see if the one for easytag is checked
[14:10] <tux_> fgh
[14:10] <tux_> df
[14:10] <tux_> df
[14:10] <tux_> ghghg
[14:10] <FloodBotK1> tux_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:11] <DarthFrog> murthy:  easytag isn't a KDE programme.  But there is kid3 and that's working.  I'll use it instead.  Thanks.
[14:12] <murthy> DarthFrog: I have used it since it was available for windows , its a good one
[14:12] <tux_> i know
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:23] <fractaline> hi
[15:06] <przemek> hello mates , how to create dos iso more then 2.88mb? i need update the bios which have 8mb
[15:07] <przemek> k3b? any ideas? :)
[17:10] <bodom> Hi there. How can i disbale guest account in KDM?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> bodom, system settings>login screen>generaltab, uncheck "allow guest login ", apply
[17:13] <bodom> BluesKaj: isn't System Settings -> login screen to configure LightDM?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> well, I thought kdm would be the same
[17:15] <bodom> BluesKaj: ok, i'm gonna try anyway, thank you
[17:15] <BluesKaj> why are you using kdm ,are you on an older release?
[17:46] <bodom> is there any special reason why kubuntu-desktop depends on lightdm?
[17:53] <OerHeks> both ubuntu and kubuntu use lightdm nowadays
[18:03] <bodom> OerHeks: yep, but this way one can't uninstall lightdm without uninstalling also kubuntu-desktop
[18:04] <tsimpson> so?
[18:07] <bodom> so, what if i want to use kdm?
[18:09] <BluesKaj> bodom,  have you seen this ? ..it might give some clues
[18:09] <BluesKaj> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74353/virtual-terminal-switching-with-a-multiseat-setup-and-lightdm
[18:13] <bodom> BluesKaj: i think i don't understand how it can be helpful
[18:13] <BluesKaj> bodom, ok nm then
[18:14] <BluesKaj> you obviously want to stick with kdm
[18:15] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: you can use kdm if you want
[18:15] <tsimpson> there's no reason you can't have both installed
[18:16] <tsimpson> oops, bodom not BluesKaj
[18:16] <BluesKaj> I have no need to use kdm , I use a single monitor
[18:16] <tsimpson> echo `which kdm`|sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[18:16] <tsimpson> ^ will select KDM as the default display manager
[18:17] <bodom> tsimpson: Yes, i have kdm installed and it's already set up as default VM, but i would like to uninstall lightdm without breaking kubuntu
[18:29] <tsimpson> bodom: so just remove it and kubuntu-desktop, it shouldn't remove anything else by default
[18:30] <bodom> yep, but i'll no longer get new kubuntu software
[18:31] <tsimpson> sure you do, just no packages that are added to the default seed
[18:32] <tsimpson> which is mostly not a problem, until you want to upgrade to the next kubuntu version
[18:58] <Key-Real> iHi, is it possible to use shared folders of Oracle VM VM VirtualBox under kubuntu?
[19:21] <Walex> Key-Real: probably, but is may be simpler to just use NFS for that.
[19:32] <|kira> I use sshfs
[20:17] <puff> In the old kubuntu terminal I could use ctrl pgup/pgdwn to move between tabs.  In Konsole that doesn't seem to work.
[20:19] <|kira> I think you can change the binds for that
[20:21] <puff> Ah, found shift-right and shift-left do that.
[20:21] <puff> Thanks.
[20:22] <puff> I gotta say, part of why I switched to kubuntu was not just Unity's slowness, but the gratuitous rearranging of the GUI.  I'm not really happy to see the same nonsense happening with kubuntu's GUI.
[20:22] <|kira> You can change kde a lot more than unity/gnome3
[20:23] <puff> Yeah, but I don't want to :-).
[20:23] <|kira> I use KDE and XFCE, XFCE is a lot like gnome3 and kde is a lot better than it was
[20:23] <puff> I want it to just stay the same, so I can get work done instead of frittering away the hours fiddling with the GUI, just to get it back to the way it used to be.
[20:23] <|kira> Mate is a dead end project, and Cinnamon is buggy
[20:24] <puff> Hm, I think I was using XFCE before, maybe that's my mistake.  I thought xfce was the default kubuntu UI?
[20:24] <puff> How do I check?
[20:24] <|kira> xubuntu is xfce... kubuntu kde, gnome-ubuntu is gnome 3... ubuntu is unity...
[20:25] <puff> Ah... okay, maybe that's where I messed up.
[20:25] <|kira> lubuntu is lxde which is really small but too far
[20:25] <|kira> kde and xfce are the best offical ubuntus.... cinnamon is really nice but there's no cinnabuntu
[20:26] <puff> I seem to have set my kde wallet password somewhere along the way, but now I can't remember it.  This install is only a few days old, how do I reset it?
[20:26] <|kira> I should make cinnabuntu...
[20:26] <puff> What's cinnamon?
[20:26] <|kira> cinnamon is gnome 3 made to be more 2-like, Linux Mint uses it an there's an ubuntu ppa
[20:27] <puff> Ah...
[20:27] <|kira> it's buggy still
[20:27] <puff> I have a lot to do... I just instaleld a 256GB MSATA SSD (which is listing as 238GB, sigh).  I need to revise/reconfigure/reinstall everything.
[20:28] <puff> I want to set up multiple boot partitions. Sadly this includes windows (I haven't booted windows on my personal laptop in 6+ years).
[20:28] <|kira> well linux installs are tiny compared to windows, you could jsut get every livecd and try them all
[20:28] <puff> But I need to support some stuff that means I may need  to occasionally boot into windows.
[20:28] <|kira> use kvm or xen or virtualbox
[20:28] <puff> Nah, I need at least three boots.
[20:29] <|kira> kvm supports 1024 machines and 2048 cores and 32TB of ram...
[20:29] <puff> My every day boot, probably kubuntu or xubuntu.  A boot for the latest bleeding-edge ubuntu so I can test it against my hardware (things *always* seem to break).  A centos boot for a particular project involving commercial software that is only available for centos.  And a windows boot.
[20:30] <|kira> My host os is kubuntu, have xubuntu in a vm and windows xp and 7 in a vm too...
[20:30] <puff> And most of them involve wacky graphics driver issues, so I can't run them under a virtual server.
[20:30] <|kira> cent is bad lol
[20:30] <puff> Yeah, but it's become something of a standard in the 3D graphics industry.
[20:31] <puff> Actually I think RHEL is the standard, but CentOS is the open source/free equivalent.
[20:31] <|kira> what software? blender works perfectly on every major distro
[20:31] <puff> (as far as the industry cares)
[20:31] <|kira> fedora is open redhat, cent is... related
[20:31] <|kira> cent is like 5 guys, fedora is 300....
[20:32] <|kira> mint is 3 guys, ubuntu is... 400?
[20:32] <|kira> ubuntu is pretty much a compilation os series, not much work done, debian is the true mothership distro
[20:32] <|kira> so much is debian based
[20:33] <|kira> Debian testing is more stable than most distros, stable is old, unstable breaks
[20:35] <ospi3> hello:) how do i backup all emails as simple text files (one email one file)?
[20:36] <ospi3> somebody help me please...
[20:36] <|kira> with what program?
[20:37] <ospi3> |kira: thank you... any email client. do you know one that does that?
[20:38] <ospi3> what i want is to have one (readable) text file for each email
[20:38] <|kira> most backup as xml, which can be broken apart
[20:38] <|kira> thundebird and such
[20:39] <ospi3> so one big xml file. and how do you break it apart into many little files (one per email)? will these then be readable in a simple text editor?
[20:40] <|kira> any simple programming language, go, python, read the xml, spit out the text as seperate files names however
[20:41] <ospi3> also how will these files be named? can you get for example the object of the email to be the name of the file?
[20:41] <|kira> can ame them however you want
[20:42] <ospi3> can a newbie (like me) do this easily? i dont know how to program
[20:42] <|kira> i'm about to make a program that does that
[20:42] <ospi3> super... thank you
[20:43] <|kira> i'll be developing it tonight, i have thunderbird emails i want to blow up to seperate files too
[20:43] <ospi3> i still dont understand why thunderbird does not give us this option...
[20:44] <|kira> i think there is a way, but nothing as simple as "here's backup dump mails as text fies"
[20:45] <ospi3> will you make it available to everybody?
[20:46] <ospi3> or just me? :)
[20:46] <|kira> open source project
[20:46] <ospi3> so where will i find it?
[20:46] <|kira> dunno, github probally
[20:47] <ospi3> so tell me what to do.... should i go look for it in github tomorrow?
[20:47] <|kira> i'm on irc every day, just bug me once in a while
[20:48] <ospi3> ok so i will come bug you tomorrow :) always in this channel (kubuntu)?
[20:48] <|kira> yup
[20:51] <BluesKaj_> really |kira , must be a lurker
[20:53] <|kira> i'm maximum lurker
[20:53] <|kira> i lurk 50 channels
[20:53] <ospi3> what is lurker?
[20:54] <|kira> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker very old word lol
[20:54] <ospi3>  a member of an online community who observes, but does not actively participate
[20:55] <ospi3> but you participate dont you?
[20:55] <|kira> when i have reason lol
[20:56] <ospi3> what time will be connected tomorrow?
[20:57] <|kira> 4-12pmest
[20:58] <puff> Hm.
[20:59] <puff> ospi3: Where is the email coming from?
[20:59] <puff> 5pm already, where did the day go?
[20:59] <|kira> I think I'll call it "Thunderbird Backup Exploder"
[21:00] <puff> ospi3: Maildir is a standard mailbox format that puts the messages in individual files in a subdirectory.
[21:01] <|kira> I forgot about that... although i have all of these json emmail backups...
[21:02] <puff> Cool.
[21:03] <ospi3> could you make it that the name of the file comes out as 20130526 News from Alaska (YYYYMMDD EMAILOBJECT) ? (hopefully im not being rude in making these requests) :)
[21:03] <ospi3> the name sounds good...
[21:06] <|kira> I'll probably name the files like this: YY/MM/DD/HH/MM/SS/Title/from/to
[21:07] <ospi3> ok
[21:07] <|kira> know of the Go programming language?
[21:08] <ospi3> i know of "go" as in "I go to work" :)
[21:08] <|kira> I'll be making it with that http://golang.org/ you can apt-get golang
[21:09] <ospi3> can you make it so user-friendly that even my grandmother will be able to use it?
[21:10] <|kira> you can "go make" it into a simple binary people can run
[21:12] <puff> |kira: How is go for quickie scriptnig stuff?
[21:12] <|kira> go is a full blown programing language, but it's even easier than most scripting languages
[21:12] <puff> |kira: I've been curious about,  haven't managed to make time to try it out.  Hell, I've barely made time to try out more practical languages that have long been on my to-do list, like python and ruby.
[21:12] <puff> |kira: Really?
[21:12] <|kira> you can elarn go pretty quick
[21:12] <|kira> http://tour.golang.org/#1
[21:13] <ospi3> ok kira .... glad i bumped on you.... be back tomorrow then ... good night (for me time) :)
[21:13] <|kira> kate in kde support go syntax
[21:14] <|kira> and golang is a standard package you and apt-get
[21:15] <puff> Neat tour.
[21:19] <madconqueror> Niklaus Wirth had dinner in the same restaurant tonight as me. I think. At least, there was a lonely man with a beard and a lonely man with a dog on that terrace. You could have just told me Kubuntu is only mimicking dual monitor support. It would have been okay. Now I choose a different distro.
[21:20] <|kira> I'm using multimonitor... you can have separate desktops or 1 big one made of multiple monitors... just depends on how your screens are set
[21:20] <ospi3> why not have four digits for the year (YYYY)? it will work better for the century turns dont you think?
[21:21] <puff> I've jsut *barely* gotten my external video working (dang nvidia).
[21:21] <|kira> amdcccle or nvidia's... something, lets you set that, intel has a thing too
[21:21] <|kira> nvidia on a laptop?
[21:21] <puff> But what I *really* want is to use multiple monitors when docked, and when I undock, have each monitor be a workspace.
[21:21] <puff> Yea,h thinkpad t52p with nvidia.
[21:22] <puff> Turns out there are some really annoying aspects to nvidia on the thinkpad t520 - the external video port is just dead if you don't use nvidia mode.
[21:22] <|kira> If you use nvidia for laptops... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
[21:22] <puff> |kira: Yeah, I think of that scene often.
[21:23] <|kira> Funny how ATi was bad on Linux, but AMD really improved things
[21:26] <puff> This was a good read: http://tech.t9i.in/2013/01/why-program-in-go/
[21:26] <puff> Yeah, re: ATI.
[21:27] <|kira> ATi's divers are slow, a bit buggy... but I haven't really had any big problems... steam games all work, blender, other linux games, lots of wine games
[21:27] <ospi3> |kira: do you read me? did i do something wrong? is it for go? didn't mean to be unpolite or anything.....
[21:28] <|kira> oh, missed your comment, uhh, i'll probably have several file name options, it's easy changing
[21:29] <ospi3> ok... good... night :)
[21:55] <|kira> I have to much crap open I need a double bar tray, good thing there's sutohide...
[23:58] <|kira> ospi3: Hmm... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/ found plugin to handle my emails... suddenly lost urge to so it myself...
[23:59] <|kira> hmm, he's gone, oh well