[06:41] <Vivekananda> hi everyone e got lubuntu  12.04 lts and have gecko-media player. I cannot play xvid videos on firefox and it asks me to download plugin. What do I do
[13:43] <okabi> The other day after doing a software update a dialog box appeared ascking me if I wanted to upgrade to Lubuntu 13.04
[13:44] <okabi> How much free space would I need for an upgrade?
[14:06] <phillw> okabi: I've never been asked that before!... having a dig around, it is safest to allow for the size of the ISO as it needs to download all the new stuff before it can start replacing the old stuff with them.
[14:08] <okabi> Oh shoot then.
[14:09] <okabi> I've only got so much space, and don't know how much I can clear out...
[14:09] <okabi> Running from a usb drive lol
[14:13] <phillw> yes, the guy who asked was running from a removable device.
[14:15] <okabi> Lmao.
[14:15] <okabi> Hey now, it's an 8 gig.
[14:16] <phillw> how much room do you have on / ?
[14:17] <okabi> 137 mbs after the update I just did.
[14:17] <okabi> Before I had 470 mb.
[14:17] <phillw> okabi: running
[14:17] <phillw> sudo apt-get clean
[14:17] <phillw> will clear out all the stored archives in your cache, that should increase the free space by a fair margin.
[14:18] <okabi> I'm aware.
[14:18] <okabi> But thank you anyway. It'll be useful to anyone readding who doesn't know.
[14:18] <phillw> also remove all the old kernels.
[14:18] <okabi> OH yes, I've been wondering about those
[14:19] <phillw> they are disk eating monsters!
[14:19] <okabi> I suspected... how do I remove them?
[14:20] <phillw> okabi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[14:21] <okabi> Thanks phillw
[16:59] <Yorvyk> phillw: this is your 1 hour notice of the manual meeting
[17:01] <Yorvyk> Not sure where this meeting is though :/
[17:06] <phillw> Yorvyk: should be in #ubuntu-meeting
[20:33] <ospi3> hello:) how do i backup all emails as simple text files (one email one file)?
[21:48] <hutch_> Hello
[21:49] <holstein> o/
[21:49] <hutch_> \O
[21:51] <hutch_> I've installed Lubuntu as I want to see if it will speed up things on my laptop. So far so good but why is XChat not pre-installed?
[21:52] <Unit193> Nope, but easy to install.
[21:53] <holstein> xchat is not installed by default because its not a default appication included with lubuntu
[21:53] <holstein> !infor xchat
[21:53] <holstein> !info xchat
[21:54] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xchat or install from any package manager you choose
[21:55] <Unit193> hutch_: Space issues, trying to cut back.  Figure the people that want it can pretty easily install.
[21:55] <hutch_> Pity as there are no obvious support apps for noobs. Though I know it has to leave out lots of things to stay lightweight
[21:56] <Unit193> pidgin technically can handle irc, so that's mainly why.
[21:56] <hutch_> Not thinking of myself I've been windows free for 5yrs
[21:56] <hutch_> And love LXDE/Lubuntu
[21:57] <hutch_> Does lubuntu have its own forum btw?
[21:57] <holstein> hutch_: lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. so the forums work for it as well.. and there are specific sections
[21:58] <hutch_> np
[21:58] <Unit193> Either a section or tag, don't remember which is used.
[21:58] <Stephen_Noob> When I run aplay -l it doesn't show my USB sound card (PCM2902)
[21:58] <Stephen_Noob> Been trying to configure it but too noob.
[21:58] <hutch_> irc via pidgin was always a pain for me
[21:59] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: it doesnt have to be supported... did you check the matrix? what is it?
[21:59] <Stephen_Noob> I'm not sure what you mean by matrix, but if I run lsusb it lists it.
[21:59] <Stephen_Noob> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 08bb:2902 Texas Instruments Japan PCM2902 Audio Codec
[22:00] <holstein> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[22:00] <Stephen_Noob> *rtfm'n*
[22:00] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: a few suggestions
[22:00] <Unit193> Ah, I was going to say try it with pulse as it seems to support some more odd ones.
[22:00] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: try a live CD with pulse audio.. something like xubuntu (assuming you dont want to install pulse)
[22:00] <holstein> Unit193: :)
[22:01] <holstein> pavucontrol is a nice and handy tool to use with pulse
[22:01] <hutch_> Does fb/xmpp on pidgin still not allow video? as I configured my webcam but no video displayed
[22:01] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: I'm running lubuntu on a MK802+ Allwinner A10, a CD drive is not an option :P
[22:01] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: if you can, disable or remove all other sound cards/devices.. either in the bios or just physically remove them
[22:01] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: ?
[22:01] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Also, I installed pulse but I was getting the impression it somehow ran ontop of alsa.
[22:01] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: you can boot *something* on there.. USB
[22:02] <Unit193> hutch_: I'm pretty sure it does audio, and video technically should work I think, but don't know for sure that it does.
[22:02] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: thats what the alsa support *is* relevant...
[22:02] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: It's an embedded ARM computer, the size of... a gum pack. I can't unplug them. Not sure how to disable them :(
[22:02] <hutch_> Unit193, maybe right just need to talk to fb contact with vid I guess
[22:03] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: these are "suggestions".. ignore them if you want, or if they are not relevant to your case.. its just simple ways of discovering support for sound cards
[22:03] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: what would i do? take the USB audio device to a more "normal" x86 machine that meets some of the suggested requirements above.. test.. learn.. return to ARM
[22:03] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Yea, I'm on board just want to explain my situation. I did try disabling the built in stuff through alsa-base.conf
[22:04] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: the way i see it, you are troubleshooting quite a few key things at once.. ARM, audio in linux, mulitple sound cards... try thinning these out.. go to another machine
[22:05] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: I'm afraid the only things I have at my disposal are two Apple laptops, neither have a CD drive and I cannot boot linux due to EFI blocking
[22:05] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: i routinely dig machines that are appropriate for this out of the trash
[22:06] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Aye, I recognize they're easy to come by. Realistically I think I just need to tell alsa to load the driver for the PCM2902 but I'm not really sure how to do that.
[22:06] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: im sure, if you need/want, you can work a test case up.. if not, i would return the device ASAP. and get something with known linux support
[22:06] <Stephen_Noob> Specifically, I'm not sure what the driver name is.
[22:06] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Where's your sense of adventure??
[22:07] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: im actually an audio guy.. so i pick and choose my adventures with it.
[22:08] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Alright, so I anticipate you're familiar with alsa_conf. Let me refer to that matrix again really fast. I guess mine might be under "TI" or "Texas Instruments"
[22:08] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: what i would do is go to hardware that i *know* works.. x86 hardware.. and have only one audio device
[22:09] <holstein> otherwise, i have not use ARM, and for all you and i know, usb could be not working
[22:09] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Nah the USB is working, I installed it on another arm system without a problem but this new one is smaller :3
[22:09] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Does this shed some light on the situation for either of us? http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Behringer
[22:10] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: That's my USB card...
[22:10] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: my friend uses one of those
[22:10] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: it works "out of the box".. thats what im saying.. you have to many unknowns going on
[22:10] <holstein> its plug and play.. he is _guitarman_ in #opensourcemusicians
[22:11] <holstein> it should show in aplay -l ... but you have a different ARM kernel, and all kinds of other differences
[22:11] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: Darn, I guess I'll have to try to find a MK802 channel.
[22:11] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: why? they didnt make the audio device
[22:12] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: I'm pretty sure there's some modules not included in this specific flavor of lubuntu, they may be familiar with this.
[22:12] <holstein> Stephen_Noob: they might not be able to be use in the ARM kernel
[22:12] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: You should have saw me getting the WiFi to work... talk about a learning experience for my first time with Linux :)
[22:12] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: There are instructions, but they skip important elements / steps that a Noob wouldn't recognize.
[22:39] <Stephen_Noob> holsteni: Says the kernel was built without SND_USB_AUDIO drivers *reading*
[22:40] <Stephen_Noob> holstein: ^
[22:43] <Unit193> Module or built-in?  Module loaded?