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DarkErastill didn't get the desktop loaded in VB by the way, i guess i'll be installing a cli tomorrow on another partition when i find some time00:04
OvenWerksThe gnome menu file is broken in the same way as the xfce menu file :P00:19
OvenWerksbut fixing the file while letting us do menu layout still doesn't fix the no submenu problem00:21
OvenWerkszequence: my opinion is that it is not worth adding our menu to the gnomeshell menu extension.00:43
OvenWerksAt least not till it gets fixed.00:44
zequenceOvenWerks: Gnome might not be worth the trouble, but if you like, have a look at cinnamon04:09
zequenceThere was news about Cinnamon going to drop Gnome3 dependency all together and become a full standalone desktop system, so it'll probably change in the future some04:09
OvenWerksJust looking at the web page, The version of the menuin ubuntu gnome seems a ways behind. 04:10
OvenWerksI tried to install cinnamon, but was unable to login to the de even with the intel graphics chip04:11
zequenceSeems like my patch may have caused a regression. bug #118888104:11
ubottubug 1188881 in jackd2 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/jackd:8:__udivdi3:Jack::JackFrameTimer::ResetFrameTime:Jack::JackEngineControl::NotifyXRun:Jack::JackEngine::NotifyXRun:Jack::JackDriver::NotifyXRun" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118888104:11
OvenWerksIt may be because I tried to install it on the same machine as ubuntu gnome and there was a lib conflict04:12
zequenceWell, I don't think there should be any lib conflict because of it. Dependencies are the same04:12
zequence..as before. The patch only adds a few lines of code here and there to the pre-existing package04:13
OvenWerksSomeone says your chnage and the problem do not seem connected04:14
zequenceOne needs to be accepted to Ubuntu's error tracker in order to see the whole story04:14
zequenceThat guy Langasek believes it might be compiler related04:15
OvenWerksshould be easy to test04:16
zequenceDarkEra: What's the story behind your nickname anyway?15:57
zequenceSounds like a great old death metal band15:57
zequenceor the name of one15:57
zequenceMakes me nostalgic almost15:57
DarkEranothing special, when i joined in on the dutch ubuntu forums and irc back in 2007/2008 i just came up with it and used it since then15:59
zequenceNickG: I did a few small changes to the website yesterday, I think it was. Added some links to the side panel http://ubuntustudio.org/16:07
NickGgood stuff16:08
NickGI haven't looked at it enough yet to know what is new there lol16:08
zequenceI think what we should focus on with the website is really just make it as accessible as possible16:09
NickGI got a day planned with my wife today but tomorrow I'm going to go in through ftp and download the wp-content and make a new installation on my server and put it in there16:09
NickGI like accessibility16:09
NickGWhat we run into eventually is accessibility < clutter16:09
NickGI've seen a lot of websites, and a lot of them are just... heavy16:10
NickGI like the layout, its all logical too16:10
zequenceOne thing that I might like to change is how the text is displayed16:10
NickGfont/color?16:10
zequenceSize does never need to be particularly small, unless we're talking about footnotes16:11
zequenceSome of the text is hard to see, it's a bit too grey16:11
zequenceOr not enough black16:11
NickGI notice that when I click the links on the right hand side (facebook profile, G+, etc) it opens in the same tab, taking people away from the site.  we should add target="_blank" to each link to make it open in a new tab16:11
zequenceThat's a good thing to do, yeah16:11
NickGpersonally, black on white is VERY contrasting, usually a dark grey over lighter grey or white ends up looking more polished16:13
NickGany text in specific you're referring to?16:13
zequenceAs long as it's easy to read16:13
zequenceI just want the text to be instantly readable16:13
NickGI find it is already16:14
zequenceReally? I feel there are a few things that could be improved16:14
NickGwhere exactly?16:14
zequenceAre you saying you can't think of anything that could make the text look better?16:15
NickGI did notice when I go to the articles page, the date/category font is extremely light16:16
NickGconsidering it's on a white background16:16
zequenceI also think the text size is a bit small16:16
zequencethis may depend a bit on browser, screen, etc16:16
NickGit could for sure16:17
zequencebut, overall, I think it's too small16:17
NickGIt looks about 11 or 12 px16:17
zequenceThe synopsis of the news on the first page could be improved as well16:17
zequenceRight now, it doesn't include line breaks16:17
NickGYeah16:17
NickGI notice that flaw in wordpress16:17
zequenceAnd it would be nice if it also included a thumbnail of either artwork or a video16:18
NickGthe php script telling it how/where to display content can be changed to include line breaks16:18
NickGfor each article?16:18
zequenceSure16:18
NickGdo-able for sure16:18
zequenceWe only show 4 posts at the front page right now16:19
zequenceI've set the amount so that the vertical size works16:19
zequenceWe don't need to show more than 5 posts anyway16:19
NickGAnother thing... this might be crazy but it seems like it's using a generic font.  What about using the ubuntu type-font for the content?  or one similar?16:20
NickGyah16:20
zequenceI'm up for anything, so if you think it'll look nice, try it16:20
NickGusers can access all of the articles, so it makes sense to have 4 or 5 latest posts on front page16:20
NickGAnd the text in the main banner area is definitely small16:21
NickGit should draw more attention because it is the first thing people see, so it needs to capture their attention16:21
zequenceyou mean "ubuntu studio"?16:21
NickGno16:21
NickGwhere it has the "Welcome to ubuntu studio" 16:21
NickG"Ubuntu Studio is a free and open operating system for creative people.16:22
NickGWe provide the full range of multimedia content creation applications for each of our workflows: audio, graphics, video, photography and publishing." could be a bit bigger16:22
zequenceOk, in the program they are called fron tabs16:22
NickGok16:22
zequencefront tabs16:22
NickGGood stuff.  tonight I'll make an installation and play around with these things16:22
NickGI gotta run to get groceries now, though16:23
zequenceNo hurry. We don't really need to make any changes until 14.04, so you have lots of time to play around with it16:23
NickGok16:23
NickGI'll be on later16:23
zequenceSee you later16:23
NickGhave a good day16:23
zequenceI'll be away, btw16:23
zequenceYou too16:23
NickGok16:23
OvenWerksServer crashed :P  moved PS and Drive to older machine... works.. sort of19:19
OvenWerksI have eth0 and eth2 instead of 0 and 119:19
OvenWerksIt seems the os has remembered the internel eth1 if from the other mb.19:21

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