[00:04] still didn't get the desktop loaded in VB by the way, i guess i'll be installing a cli tomorrow on another partition when i find some time [00:19] The gnome menu file is broken in the same way as the xfce menu file :P [00:21] but fixing the file while letting us do menu layout still doesn't fix the no submenu problem [00:43] zequence: my opinion is that it is not worth adding our menu to the gnomeshell menu extension. [00:44] At least not till it gets fixed. [04:09] OvenWerks: Gnome might not be worth the trouble, but if you like, have a look at cinnamon [04:09] There was news about Cinnamon going to drop Gnome3 dependency all together and become a full standalone desktop system, so it'll probably change in the future some [04:10] Just looking at the web page, The version of the menuin ubuntu gnome seems a ways behind. [04:11] I tried to install cinnamon, but was unable to login to the de even with the intel graphics chip [04:11] Seems like my patch may have caused a regression. bug #1188881 [04:11] bug 1188881 in jackd2 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/jackd:8:__udivdi3:Jack::JackFrameTimer::ResetFrameTime:Jack::JackEngineControl::NotifyXRun:Jack::JackEngine::NotifyXRun:Jack::JackDriver::NotifyXRun" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1188881 [04:12] It may be because I tried to install it on the same machine as ubuntu gnome and there was a lib conflict [04:12] Well, I don't think there should be any lib conflict because of it. Dependencies are the same [04:13] ..as before. The patch only adds a few lines of code here and there to the pre-existing package [04:14] Someone says your chnage and the problem do not seem connected [04:14] One needs to be accepted to Ubuntu's error tracker in order to see the whole story [04:15] That guy Langasek believes it might be compiler related [04:16] should be easy to test [15:57] DarkEra: What's the story behind your nickname anyway? [15:57] Sounds like a great old death metal band [15:57] or the name of one [15:57] Makes me nostalgic almost [15:59] nothing special, when i joined in on the dutch ubuntu forums and irc back in 2007/2008 i just came up with it and used it since then [16:07] NickG: I did a few small changes to the website yesterday, I think it was. Added some links to the side panel http://ubuntustudio.org/ [16:08] good stuff [16:08] I haven't looked at it enough yet to know what is new there lol [16:09] I think what we should focus on with the website is really just make it as accessible as possible [16:09] I got a day planned with my wife today but tomorrow I'm going to go in through ftp and download the wp-content and make a new installation on my server and put it in there [16:09] I like accessibility [16:09] What we run into eventually is accessibility < clutter [16:10] I've seen a lot of websites, and a lot of them are just... heavy [16:10] I like the layout, its all logical too [16:10] One thing that I might like to change is how the text is displayed [16:10] font/color? [16:11] Size does never need to be particularly small, unless we're talking about footnotes [16:11] Some of the text is hard to see, it's a bit too grey [16:11] Or not enough black [16:11] I notice that when I click the links on the right hand side (facebook profile, G+, etc) it opens in the same tab, taking people away from the site. we should add target="_blank" to each link to make it open in a new tab [16:11] That's a good thing to do, yeah [16:13] personally, black on white is VERY contrasting, usually a dark grey over lighter grey or white ends up looking more polished [16:13] any text in specific you're referring to? [16:13] As long as it's easy to read [16:13] I just want the text to be instantly readable [16:14] I find it is already [16:14] Really? I feel there are a few things that could be improved [16:14] where exactly? [16:15] Are you saying you can't think of anything that could make the text look better? [16:16] I did notice when I go to the articles page, the date/category font is extremely light [16:16] considering it's on a white background [16:16] I also think the text size is a bit small [16:16] this may depend a bit on browser, screen, etc [16:17] it could for sure [16:17] but, overall, I think it's too small [16:17] It looks about 11 or 12 px [16:17] The synopsis of the news on the first page could be improved as well [16:17] Right now, it doesn't include line breaks [16:17] Yeah [16:17] I notice that flaw in wordpress [16:18] And it would be nice if it also included a thumbnail of either artwork or a video [16:18] the php script telling it how/where to display content can be changed to include line breaks [16:18] for each article? [16:18] Sure [16:18] do-able for sure [16:19] We only show 4 posts at the front page right now [16:19] I've set the amount so that the vertical size works [16:19] We don't need to show more than 5 posts anyway [16:20] Another thing... this might be crazy but it seems like it's using a generic font. What about using the ubuntu type-font for the content? or one similar? [16:20] yah [16:20] I'm up for anything, so if you think it'll look nice, try it [16:20] users can access all of the articles, so it makes sense to have 4 or 5 latest posts on front page [16:21] And the text in the main banner area is definitely small [16:21] it should draw more attention because it is the first thing people see, so it needs to capture their attention [16:21] you mean "ubuntu studio"? [16:21] no [16:21] where it has the "Welcome to ubuntu studio" [16:22] "Ubuntu Studio is a free and open operating system for creative people. [16:22] We provide the full range of multimedia content creation applications for each of our workflows: audio, graphics, video, photography and publishing." could be a bit bigger [16:22] Ok, in the program they are called fron tabs [16:22] ok [16:22] front tabs [16:22] Good stuff. tonight I'll make an installation and play around with these things [16:23] I gotta run to get groceries now, though [16:23] No hurry. We don't really need to make any changes until 14.04, so you have lots of time to play around with it [16:23] ok [16:23] I'll be on later [16:23] See you later [16:23] have a good day [16:23] I'll be away, btw [16:23] You too [16:23] ok [19:19] Server crashed :P moved PS and Drive to older machine... works.. sort of [19:19] I have eth0 and eth2 instead of 0 and 1 [19:21] It seems the os has remembered the internel eth1 if from the other mb.