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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:43 |
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| MMlosh | Hello... trivial question: why am I seeing no packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/ ? Are they hidden, or just not built yet? | 09:48 |
| BluesKaj_ | Howdy all | 11:30 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj_ | hi penguin42 | 11:33 |
| BluesKaj_ | finally found a decent vpn client and tutorial for kde -linux | 11:34 |
| penguin42 | which VPN type? | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj_ | penguin42, L2TP/IPSec | 11:46 |
| penguin42 | yeuch | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj_ | and I don't subscribe to commercial VPN service | 11:47 |
| penguin42 | ipsec is always a pita - the more modern openssl based ones are so much easier | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj_ | well this is a special service for ppl behind gov't filtered networks , like china and iran http://www.vpngate.net/en/ | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj_ | based in japan , but there areservers all over the world | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj_ | a lot of them won't connect thru ipsec though | 11:51 |
| penguin42 | it does seem a bit of an odd choice; ipsec was popular 10 years ago - but it was always hard | 11:52 |
| BluesKaj_ | I see | 11:52 |
| penguin42 | openssl based stuff is just easy and works through anything | 11:52 |
| BluesKaj_ | ok what other names are openssl known as? | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj_ | I notice the servers might use a different name for the same service | 11:54 |
| penguin42 | sorry, I should say ssl based vpns (openssl being one implementation of ssl) | 11:54 |
| penguin42 | so openvpn is a common one | 11:54 |
| BluesKaj_ | openvpn wouldn't work for me | 11:54 |
| penguin42 | ah, pity | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj_ | wel ,maybe my settings were wrong but there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive tutorial for kde users | 12:01 |
| penguin42 | hmm yes I wonder is the KDE vpn stuff running on NM or wicd | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj_ | I've mostly lost touch with ubuntu-desktop and I'd sooner run W7 in a VB as a guest and run the vpn client from there , which i was doing until I found one written for ubuntu-desktops , but works in kde | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj_ | I don't use NM | 12:05 |
| penguin42 | ah, on the KDE network GUI there is a VPN section offering an Add button for pretty much every VPN I can think of | 12:06 |
| penguin42 | (except the commerical stuff I have to use at work) | 12:06 |
| BluesKaj_ | and can one configure NM to work with vpn , because I recall it was hard to configure | 12:10 |
| penguin42 | well isn't what the KDE and gnome GUIs are doing - the GUI looks nice enough for every type of VPN | 12:33 |
| BluesKaj_ | alternate installs are supposed to be available for 13.10? | 12:42 |
| alankila | IPsec wouldn't *have* to be such a PITA but in practice it always is | 13:07 |
| alankila | I guess enterprise happened to it and then everything became ridiculously complicated | 13:08 |
| alankila | I've been wondering if it would be possible to do ipsec while doing nothing of that key exchange stuff | 13:10 |
| alankila | just set up a fixed key, tell kernel about it with setkey, and forget everything else | 13:10 |
| alankila | sure it would *work*, but would it be secure? | 13:11 |
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| BluesKaj | alankila, interesting , I'm considering reinstalling NM , now that I've learned a few things about VPN | 13:34 |
| penguin42 | alankila: Well I think the idea is to rekey regularly so that you never get a chance to break it even with a lot of data transfer | 13:38 |
| alankila | penguin42: yes... but I am wondering what kind of things are revealed over time | 14:07 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 18:20 |
| FernandoMiguel | bRoas | 18:35 |
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| Daekdroom | !schedule | 23:41 |
| ubottu | Saucy Salamander (13.10) release milestones can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule | 23:41 |
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