[19:35] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:54] <ajmitch_> morning
[20:51] <hads> morning
[21:47] <mwhudson> hads: say, do you have any of those android tv set top box type things?
[23:23] <hads> mwhudson: Not here sorry. I have looked at them, waiting on XBMC to be more stable on Android.
[23:24] <mwhudson> hads: ok thanks
[23:24] <mwhudson> hads: mostly interested in skype tbh
[23:24] <mwhudson> there are expensive shiny things that probably work well and super cheap dodgy looking chinese things that might be better judging by the specs, but no real way of knowing
[23:27] <G> mwhudson: talking about those HDMI Android 'usb-stick' like things?
[23:30] <mwhudson> G: basically i want a cheaper version of http://shop.skype.com/intl/en-nz/skype-for-tv/tv-compatible-webcams/tely-hd/
[23:30] <mwhudson> and ideally a newer android than froyo...
[23:31] <G> mwhudson: ahhh right, I was thinking you might be talking about something like SmartVu, but that appears to be stuck on Android 4.0
[23:31] <mwhudson> 4.0 seems better than 2.2 :) but i want the webcam and mic too
[23:32] <G> yeah, wonder what Android is like with external webcams
[23:32] <ibeardslee> problem with most/all of those devices is that you probably won't get a supplier provided update to the Android version.
[23:33] <G> ibeardslee: exactly, which is why it's a pity that SmartVu appears to be following that tradition, considering that it's a Kiwi thing (afaiu)
[23:37] <G> mwhudson: the word on Stackoverflow seems to be that Android has no APIs that apps can use to access a UVC camera, (although Android can set them up etc) - you'd need to basically write a heap of stuff to interact with it  (based on what I'm reading anyway)
[23:37] <mwhudson> yeah, so screw that
[23:37] <mwhudson> i just want our parents to be able to see our daughter :)
[23:52] <hads> Buy a fancy TV with it built in? :)