[04:18] <redtape|renegade> Allo ..
[04:20] <redtape|renegade> Sorry for those that felt like running away yesterday .. http://bit.ly/11rWyfP | To day ... I'll shut up for once & just check the logs at the E.O.D.
[04:20] <redtape|renegade> leaves
[09:09] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:21] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[09:56] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[10:01] <SuperEngineer> boo!
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> \o
[10:09] <SuperEngineer> o/ MartijnVdS
[10:13] <SuperEngineer> damn! 2nd time today Compiz crashed [both times when dash is open & tying the same thing!]
[10:13] <SuperEngineer> bbs - gonna try a reboot
[10:31] <SuperEngineer> hmmm... & now I can't make Compiz crash even replicating the same way it crashed twice earlier - me confused
[10:31] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: it learned
[10:31] <Laney> it's just a genetic algorithm now
[10:31] <MartijnVdS> next thing you know it'll be smarter than you
[10:31] <Laney> seeded with the old compiz
[10:32] <MartijnVdS> popey: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02xcvhw CATS!
[10:32] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: I think it's lurking... and learning... and plotting... and planning it's next move
[10:33]  * SuperEngineer is not paranoid :D
[10:33] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: good thing the NSA is keeping a close eye on it
[10:33] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: :D
[10:33] <SuperEngineer> #Prism
[10:34] <SuperEngineer> that'll confuse 'em
[10:34] <MartijnVdS> watchlist.add('SuperEngineer')
[10:34] <SuperEngineer> just seen a headline pre-release from tomorrow's Guardian: "Compiz found to plant by NSA
[10:35] <SuperEngineer> *to be
[10:35] <MartijnVdS> +"
[10:35] <MartijnVdS> can't just leave your quotes unclosed
[10:35] <MartijnVdS> that confuses the algorithms
[10:35] <SuperEngineer> ;)  ""
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> anyway.. cats, thursday, BBC2
[10:45] <Laney> "Canonical participating in PRISM program through shopping lens"
[10:45] <MartijnVdS> Laney: Unity "lenses", PRISM
[10:45] <MartijnVdS> Laney: I see a link there
[10:46] <SuperEngineer> Laney: for 1 sec I thought that read "Canonical participating in PRISM program through snooping lens"
[10:46] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: the letters are, like, right next to each other! Easy typo to make
[10:46] <Laney> dun dun DUN
[10:48] <SuperEngineer> NSA & GQHQ watching me... me watching British Touring Car Champions.  I win.
[10:49] <MartijnVdS> SuperEngineer: F1 tonight!
[10:49] <SuperEngineer> MartijnVdS: TV already set to switch at right time
[11:05] <SuperEngineer> question: having recently had the chance [a.k.a. been forced to] prove my baackup/restore regime
[11:05] <SuperEngineer> ...is there anything I am missing by backing upo a) whole of /home & b) whole of /etc ?
[11:06] <SuperEngineer> should I be including something I have not thought of?
[11:59] <Myrtti> HP Proliant microserver is on sale on ebuyer
[12:05] <czajkows1i> Myrtti: oh?
[12:05] <czajkows1i> Myrtti: got a link handy I know someone was looking for on yesterday
[12:06] <Myrtti> http://www.ebuyer.com/430446-proliant-microserver-turion-2-2-2gb-250gb-nhpl-sata-lff-in-704941-421 apparently there is an email saying it would be 99 after cashback instead of 109.99
[12:07] <czajkows1i> Myrtti: cheers
[13:08] <dsample> popey, how's your hp microserver doing? I'm thinking of getting one that's on offer on ebuyer
[13:18]  * penguin42 knows a lot of people who like them
[13:18] <penguin42> dsample: Be careful of one thing; if you try to unplug the SATA/SAS cable for the main board don't force it
[13:19] <penguin42> a friend managed to remove the connector from the board
[13:20] <dsample> nice
[13:47] <dsample> What's the power usage on these microservers? It says there's a 150W PSU, but wondering what it's like when it's idling
[14:18] <mungbean_> depends how many disks u got in there spinning away
[15:10] <bigcalm> Afternoon peeps :)
[15:10] <MartijnVdS> \o
[15:11] <SuperEngineer> 'noony bigcalm
[15:12] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[15:13] <bigcalm> What's happening kids?
[15:13] <MartijnVdS> Lazy sunday afternoon things ;)
[15:14] <SuperEngineer> beer, bath, best chillout music playing [whilst watching BTCC with sound off] ;)
[15:15] <SuperEngineer> ...and sun is at last shining through clouds
[15:21] <mungbean_> SuperEngineer: backup ur packages list
[15:25] <SuperEngineer> mungbean_: cheers
[15:29] <SuperEngineer> mungbean_:  thought... would it still work as I routinely do an apt clean up?
[15:30] <SuperEngineer> just the list would be fine tho
[15:33] <mungbean_> theres a way to save in  a way to actually reinstall them all
[15:34] <SuperEngineer> oooo
[15:37] <jacobw> Afternooning, Ubunteros
[15:46] <mungbean_> howdy
[15:56] <SuperEngineer> mungbean_: thanks a mil - just sorted that out as well
[15:57] <mungbean_> can u remind me how?
[15:57] <mungbean_> :P
[16:00] <SuperEngineer> mungbean_: list created by: dpkg --get-selections > installed-packages  & using dselect
[16:00] <SuperEngineer> :p
[16:01] <SuperEngineer> e.g. sudo dpkg --set-selections < installed-packages  to retrieve
[16:02] <SuperEngineer> [I even put the instructions in # lines in the list file]  ;)
[16:03] <SuperEngineer> I assume that be what ye had mind melad [keel haul him boson!]
[16:04] <mungbean_> that works, but i think theres another way so that dependencies are retrieved to
[16:04] <SuperEngineer> hmmm
[16:04] <SuperEngineer> not found that method
[16:05] <mungbean_> exercise fot the reader::P was mentioned on uupc once
[16:06] <mungbean_> trying to find snippets of time to work on my latest plane but child rearing is in the way http://i.imgur.com/SXmm9ld.jpg
[16:26] <penguin42> hmm the docs for the Damage extension seem a bit grim
[16:27] <daftykins> Damage extension?
[16:27] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh it's a way of asking the X server to tell you about changes to areas of a window that need redrawing and not just your window
[16:28] <daftykins> ah
[16:28] <penguin42> daftykins: Things like vnc and the like can monitor for changes to the screen with it
[16:28] <daftykins> sounds like dirty regions in xbmc
[16:29] <penguin42> xbmc?
[16:30] <daftykins> media centre software, just a term they use
[16:30] <SuperEngineer> F1 race coverage on Beeb 1 in 45mins
[16:30] <penguin42> daftykins: Ah, yeh I think it's pretty consistent
[16:32] <penguin42> hmm ok, that seems to be working
[16:35] <SuperEngineer> bbs - switching to 3G - BT just went on a go slow
[16:35] <penguin42> slower than 3G?
[16:35] <daftykins> hehe
[16:37] <SuperEngineer> penguin42: yup! I'm on the limit of reception from the BT kit ['borrow' my conxnx' from owner in return for fixing er resident's pooter probs]
[16:37] <daftykins> ouch
[16:39] <SuperEngineer> ..alll it takes is 1 of ownersa family to park themselves in nearby room... connxn nearly dies
[16:39] <daftykins> not considered running a closer WAP?
[16:39] <penguin42> oh I see wifi
[16:40] <SuperEngineer> ..but it's free & good much of the time [=cheap]  ;)
[16:41] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: I already pay £16 for a 3G dongle with best deal ever found [took some "suggestions from me to get it from "3"]
[16:42] <SuperEngineer> ... I get 15GB/month allowance  - jealous now?
[16:43] <penguin42> what speed do you get out of it?
[16:43] <SuperEngineer> so I now get a travelling 3G & backup for when someone blocks the conxn
[16:43] <daftykins> i'll never be jealous of a high-latency low-throughput connection :)
[16:44] <penguin42> it's better than a pidgeon
[16:44] <SuperEngineer> the 3G?... aprox 200mb
[16:44] <SuperEngineer> most toimes 3oo
[16:44] <penguin42> liveable I guess
[16:44] <SuperEngineer> #*times
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> yup
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> & free
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> ...broadband normally.. then 3g as backup
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> & to prove a point [ouch] one of family just pulled in for overnight stay.. BT temp disconnect!
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> me go down now - me switch to £G ready for F1
[16:47] <penguin42> you need a wifi repeater at a convenient point
[16:47] <SuperEngineer> bbs
[16:48] <daftykins> heh
[16:48] <daftykins> what curious english
[16:49] <daftykins> i turned off the router functions of an old Netgear router for a friend, crimped a cat5e cable to and from his main router to turn it into a WAP
[16:49] <daftykins> he messaged today saying that downloading openoffice was capped at 100KB/sec download 0o
[16:49] <daftykins> sounded a bit suspect
[16:50] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: did that fix it?
[16:51] <daftykins> ah nah this speed thing is a new 'issue' over this WAP i put in
[16:51] <popey> dsample: still running fine. had one have a psu fail, current one is running well 24x7
[16:52] <daftykins> his bedroom is surrounded by granite so he needed something separate to the houses' main router to get a signal
[16:52] <popey> it's my backup machine, doing rsnapshots of everything every 6 hours, it struggles to keep up with the amount of io i am demanding
[16:52] <daftykins> the speed issue seems really weird though
[16:52] <popey> but thats to be expected it's an old celeron-class cpu at 1.3ghz
[16:53] <popey> i upped to 8GB RAM, I am told it may be able to take 16GB, but not sure, as mine is an old N36L, the references I have seen talk about the N40L
[16:53] <popey> I expect the newer N54L?? may be faster, but dunno by how much, might be worth finding someone to run geekbench on it, and I'll run it on mine to compare
[16:57] <jacobw> daftykins: Can you grab a file from the main router's network at >100Kbit/s?
[16:58]  * popey hugs his ac100 and knowing the in-laws wifi password by heart
[16:58] <daftykins> jacobw: that was my first query to my friend, but he's got a crazy samsung ultraportable that requires a micro-ethernet jack converter cable in addition to him not having any other wired devices to confirm throughput
[17:00] <jacobw> All IP devices should ship with iperf to make this kind of thing easy.
[17:01] <daftykins> hehe
[17:01] <SuperEngineer> 15 mins to F1 time folks
[17:01] <Laney> zzzzzzz
[17:02] <popey> well, 60 mins ☻
[17:02] <daftykins> 'vroom' there you go, whole experience wrapped up into one word
[17:03] <SuperEngineer> popey: yup, but some [me] luv the preamble coverage as well :)
[17:03] <popey> meh, f1 hasn't been exciting for many years
[17:03] <jacobw> Not since Schumacher broke his legs?
[17:03] <SuperEngineer> popey: you ever been at an F1 race?
[17:04] <popey> nope
[17:04] <SuperEngineer> an experience indeed
[17:05] <popey> i can imagine
[17:05] <popey> seeing cars whizz by
[17:05] <popey> and not being able to actually see the race
[17:05] <daftykins> on big screens 'cause you're in the safe part, far away from the track
[17:05] <daftykins> ;D
[17:05] <jacobw> I think there's more to atmosphere that that :)
[17:05] <SuperEngineer> [especially if you win a competition and get VIP to British race - including the helicopter ride in & out!]
[17:05] <popey> i have relatives who go every year
[17:05] <popey> i'm sure its great fun for some
[17:06] <SuperEngineer> ah, let me know if fancy some company - though they have to provide the entrance fee ;)
[17:06] <daftykins> i just about cope with the excitement of occasionally seeing the hill climb event on bank holidays over here
[17:07] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: I'm also ucky on that one - Prestury Hill climb not far from me
[17:08]  * SuperEngineer counts his blessings
[17:10] <SuperEngineer> [on my planet, we don't use petrol - so I find vrooom races more exciting than perhaps I should]
[17:10] <daftykins> i see
[17:10] <SuperEngineer> [that last should confuse the NSA]
[17:10] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[17:10] <daftykins> i wouldn't use that talk too often, the channel already has its' quota of nutters :>
[17:11] <daftykins> *cough* redtape
[17:11]  * SuperEngineer is proud to be counted amongst the brave few]
[17:11] <SuperEngineer> ...nutters of course
[17:12] <SuperEngineer> daftykins: +1
[17:12] <daftykins> ^_^
[17:12] <SuperEngineer> but please - don't put me in the list as redt...
[17:13] <SuperEngineer> the 1 you mention is on my ignore list - in the various names used
[17:14] <daftykins> hahaha
[17:14]  * SuperEngineer is proud to be a nutter - but that doesn't mean he's proud to be an annoyance
[17:17] <SuperEngineer> F1 time folks - & yes the preamble is also fun for me as well ;)
[17:33] <dsample> popey, thanks. I ordered it (N54L) earlier, should arrive on Thursday.
[17:33] <popey> cool
[17:34] <popey> be interested to know what the performance diff is
[17:34] <dsample> it's an AMD dual-core 2.2GHz, so not amazingly fast, but should be good enough for serving media and doing backups, etc.
[17:35] <dsample> I might set it up as a VM box so I can use it for multiple things, but I don't want to bog it down too much
[17:36] <daftykins> those systems are so popular, but aren't they pretty limited on SATA ports / actual 3.5" HDD mounting room?
[17:36] <popey> gosh, thats quite a difference from my 1.3GHz
[17:37] <popey> daftykins: yes, it's got 4 bays, plus optical bay internally so "only" 5 bays internal
[17:37] <popey> i have all occupied, plus an external 8-way device so i have 13 disks in mine
[17:37] <daftykins> some kinda backplane?
[17:37] <dsample> daftykins, they can hold 4 drives, but I already have another SATA 4-disk box to extend it with
[17:38] <daftykins> i've just got a personal file server in a Coolermaster Stacker case
[17:38] <dsample> from looking at the back it has an eSATA connection
[17:38] <daftykins> current RAID 5 volume is only 6 disk
[17:38] <daftykins> and is practically full :(
[17:38] <daftykins> 277GB free
[17:39] <popey> it has one esata connection but it can only address one device
[17:39] <popey> (on mine, dunno about your model dsample)
[17:39] <dsample> huh, what do you mean can only address one device?
[17:39] <dsample> you mean it's serial IO?
[17:39] <daftykins> one device per channel as per SATA rules
[17:39] <popey> so i added a pci-express dual e-sata card (which came with the 8-way external array) which supports port multiplexed e-sata
[17:40] <dsample> ah ok. Well my Belkin box should could as one device
[17:40] <popey> it can't do pm
[17:41] <daftykins> i'd probably just get a nice Synology/QNAP device these days
[17:41] <daftykins> although i like having a full OS on a file server, i run VMs and other services with mine
[17:41] <popey> yeah, i wanted something i could run various linux stuff on
[17:41] <popey> yeah, i am using lxc to create lots of separate containers for apps
[17:42] <popey> really enjoying using btrfs on it too
[17:42] <daftykins> do you have to mess around making a lot of paths available with lxc, sort of like how chroot environments act?
[17:42] <dsample> I thought about a dedicated NAS box a while ago, but I want more functionality like DLNA video
[17:42] <popey> no
[17:43] <dsample> plus it will probably form the hub of a home automation system/monitoring system if we can get around to setting it up properly
[17:43] <popey> yeah, i lobbed a dnla server on it to serve up "content" and threw my music collection at it
[17:43] <popey> yeah, mine is running http://popey.com/house
[17:44] <popey> i put the toaster on at 18:26 and 18:30 as you can see from that graph ㋛
[17:44] <daftykins> XD
[17:44] <daftykins> crikey your home temp is over 20 pretty consistently
[17:45] <daftykins> heating not on surely?
[17:45] <popey> it's in the room with the boiler, fridge, and server & array
[17:45] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh I remember commenting on that last time he showed that
[17:45] <popey> so it's not accurate
[17:45] <daftykins> hehe
[17:46] <daftykins> i'd definitely be interesting in wiring up my boiler to the network for remote control
[17:46] <daftykins> currently i have to open the back door, step outside and open a second outside door and manually turn my heating off and on
[17:46] <daftykins> not used it in months now though \o/
[17:47] <shauno> I'd love to hook me furnace up to the network, but I haven't quite decided how to do it cleanly, since I'm renting
[17:48] <daftykins> ah-har
[17:51] <dsample> You should have a look at Cubism graphs, you could put all of your graphs on a fraction of the screen space
[18:19] <dwatkins> I've been considering settup up an Adruino as a central heating controller
[18:20] <daftykins> if you kept the design open that'd be neat
[18:21] <dwatkins> yeah, I'd happily publish specs - I want to make a controller with an LCD, possibly also network control, although that's not absolutely necessary.
[18:21] <dwatkins> I imagine this page would be useful: http://www.jellard.co.uk/2009/11/home-easy-central-heating-control-hack/
[18:23] <daftykins> neat
[18:23] <dwatkins> I essentially need to control a single relay, assuming the thermostat is already set at my preferred value.
[18:24] <dwatkins> #include <standard.mains.electricity.warning.txt>
[18:58] <diplo_> Evening all
[19:01] <jacobw> Hello diplo_
[19:15] <^aDaM> Man this Ubuntu 13.04 feels so smooth!
[19:15] <^aDaM> Love the menus, and how easy it is to use! and if you want to use a Terminal or anything more techy then you can still do so! :-)
[19:15] <^aDaM> Thanks for such a great distro #ubuntu-uk
[19:16] <^aDaM> <-- Happy user.
[19:17] <popey> hah ☻
[19:17] <popey> good to hear!
[19:17] <^aDaM> ;)
[19:17] <^aDaM> Well it had to come from someone.
[19:17] <^aDaM> Im open about it :D
[19:17] <^aDaM> It is OpenSource!
[19:17] <^aDaM> :P
[19:18] <^aDaM> Currently installed Steam love how easy it is no Wine needed.
[19:19] <popey> yeah, i have loads of games in steam now
[19:20] <daftykins> has anyone run one of the Steam free-over-the-weeekend type games long enough to see if it boots you out come the deadline?
[19:20] <daftykins> -e
[19:20] <^aDaM> popey, well I have a fair few not many I have someone on my Steam called Liem now he has 776 Games last time I checked and hes just got a few new ones recently lol.
[19:21] <^aDaM> daftykins, yeah I tryed that Heros one.. something heros ;/
[19:21] <^aDaM> On windows that never booted when I clicked it lol.
[19:21] <daftykins> Company of?
[19:21] <^aDaM> Well I have to say that Steam looks so much better GFX wise!
[19:21] <^aDaM> yes daftykins
[19:21] <^aDaM> You have problems?
[19:21] <^aDaM> I did.
[19:21] <^aDaM> An that was on Windows!
[19:21] <daftykins> i've never touched it
[19:21] <^aDaM> Ah :)
[19:22] <^aDaM> I tried Saints Row was good.
[19:22] <^aDaM> Removed now :)
[19:22] <daftykins> well, Steam is truly cross-platform, it gives every OS user hassle
[19:22] <^aDaM> Ouch..
[19:22] <^aDaM> 08 here.
[19:22] <daftykins> yeah see i'm wondering what happens if i play it up until 9pm when it ends
[19:22] <^aDaM> add me rtype2122
[19:22] <^aDaM> hhaa yeah :)
[19:22] <daftykins> 08?
[19:23] <^aDaM> 2008?
[19:23] <^aDaM> the year you unlocked steam :o
[19:23] <^aDaM> member since :)
[19:24] <^aDaM> mmm daftykins  I have Doom 3 BFG an other games like Quake 1 etc... there not on my Steam?
[19:24] <^aDaM> is that due to the fact they do not work on Ubuntu lol
[19:24] <daftykins> oh i see, well i remember fiddling with Half-Life related stuff since the days of having to get the frequent huge patches over 56k
[19:24] <^aDaM> ah yes Linux Games Installed damnn :o
[19:25] <daftykins> and when Steam first got released, so whenever that was :)
[19:25] <^aDaM> lol daftykins  :o
[19:25] <^aDaM> late 90s ?
[19:25] <daftykins> ^aDaM: yeah the whole catalogue hasn't been converted yet
[19:25] <^aDaM> 1999 or 2000 surly.
[19:25] <daftykins> yep
[19:25] <daftykins> 'ported' rather, so not all games will be available
[19:25] <^aDaM> ah cool, so it will one day then
[19:25] <^aDaM> ah ok ok I need to install Doom 3 and Quake 4
[19:25] <daftykins> well maybe, for things as old as Quake there are ways on Linux anyway
[19:26] <^aDaM> yeah I thought so
[19:26] <^aDaM> I remember CS something on here helping me.
[19:26] <^aDaM> I forgot his name he was awesome guy!
[19:26] <^aDaM> used to access my PC lol but I trusted him...
[19:26] <popey> its highly unlikely old games will be ported
[19:26] <^aDaM> on Steam they will surly :o
[19:26] <popey> there's not enough revenue to be generated to cover the cost of porting
[19:26] <^aDaM> popey, ah ok ok.
[19:27] <^aDaM> popey, how would I go about installing Doom 3?
[19:27] <popey> no idea
[19:27] <popey> i have it on dvd here
[19:27] <^aDaM> I presume it's same method with Quake 4.
[19:27] <^aDaM> oh nice yeah same :)
[19:27] <daftykins> sometimes ID host installer scripts that you feed the game disc, then they do what's necessary
[19:27] <^aDaM> I would need to patch it also mmm
[19:27] <daftykins> or sometimes the tools are on the disc
[19:27] <^aDaM> daftykins, ah ok ok.
[19:27] <^aDaM> I remember installing it via Terminal once...
[19:28] <^aDaM> making paths etc..
[19:30] <daftykins> ja
[19:31] <^aDaM> jeje
[19:31] <^aDaM> daftykins, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/Quake4
[19:31] <^aDaM> Coffee an I will work on it :)
[19:32] <^aDaM> Doom 3 is the same engine surly the install method will be the same just need to find a Linux Full 1.31 Doom 3 Patch ;)
[19:36] <mungbean_> wow this is creepy http://i.imgur.com/CCFcutl.jpg
[19:37] <^aDaM> mungbean, omg!
[19:37] <^aDaM> Photo you have taken??
[19:37] <^aDaM> GIMP Edited :P
[19:37] <^aDaM> \o/
[19:44] <mungbean> not me
[19:44] <mungbean> http://i.imgur.com/igXgb9k.jpg
[19:44] <mungbean> allegedly not edited
[19:44] <mungbean> other view
[19:46] <popey> silly human brains seeing patterns in everything
[19:47] <diplo> I didn't see anything ?
[19:47] <diplo> :P
[19:47] <mungbean> was onbreddit
[19:48] <^aDaM> LoL
[19:50] <daftykins> is that like reddit but for breeding dogs?
[19:51] <mungbean> typing 1 handed as uual
[19:51] <^aDaM> mmm I have made the mkdir daftykins  for quake4
[19:51] <^aDaM> its in home/user/quake4/q4base
[19:51] <^aDaM> Now I am trying this "cp -v <Quake4 disk mount point>/Setup/Data/q4base/*.pk4 <install path>/quake4/q4base"
[19:52] <^aDaM> I did mount and I get "/dev/sr0 on /media/god/QUAKE4"
[19:52] <penguin42> I've been playing with X on a Nook; it's an interesting way of learning why old school window managers based on small controls on the edges of windows don't work on touchscreens
[19:52] <^aDaM> I am confused I am trying to get contents to install , but its not working :/
[19:57] <mungbean> http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance
[20:00] <mungbean> saw ubuntu on click yesterday
[20:00] <mungbean> it was accidental, they tend to avoid real tech :)
[20:02] <^aDaM> Anyone know how I copy all files from my Quake 4 disc to dir?
[20:02] <^aDaM> Im confused :(
[20:02] <daftykins> ^aDaM: browse manually into /media/god/QUAKE4/Setup/Data/q4base
[20:02] <daftykins> and 'cp *.pk4 ~/quake4/q4base/'
[20:03] <daftykins> assuming you created that home path
[20:04] <^aDaM> daftykins, how do you know my user is god ? :P
[20:04] <^aDaM> lol
[20:04] <^aDaM> ohh I typed it duh me!
[20:04] <daftykins> because you typed it ;)
[20:05] <^aDaM> lol
[20:05] <mungbean> NSA told him
[20:07] <^aDaM> So copy all files into the folder daftykins ? then try  'cp *.pk4 ~/quake4/q4base/'
[20:08] <daftykins> that command is to copy the files :)
[20:09] <^aDaM> dam
[20:09] <^aDaM> I just dragged them into quake4/q4base :o
[20:09] <daftykins> that'll work
[20:09] <^aDaM> in my /home/folder :D
[20:09] <^aDaM> ah good :D
[20:09] <^aDaM> then run the game ? :/
[20:09] <daftykins> not quite
[20:10] <daftykins> were you following a guide before?
[20:10] <^aDaM> how does the terminal know where its looking for the game when doing './quake4'
[20:10] <daftykins> ah yeah *opens link*
[20:10] <^aDaM> yeah that one :)
[20:10] <daftykins> ./ is always the current path
[20:10] <daftykins> . = folder you're in
[20:10] <^aDaM> Ah right I see
[20:11] <daftykins> ^aDaM: so you downloaded the linux binary at the top of the ubuntu guide?
[20:12] <^aDaM> daftykins, Yeah :D
[20:12] <^aDaM> I have that saved.
[20:12] <daftykins> and it's in ~ ?
[20:13] <daftykins> are all those .pk4 files in ~/quake4/q4base/ ?
[20:13] <^aDaM> That's in desktop :)
[20:13] <^aDaM> and not as yet still copying daftykins :)
[20:13] <daftykins> so ~/Desktop/quake4/q4base/ ?
[20:14] <daftykins> you'd just need to move the ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake4/linux/quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run download into /quake4/
[20:14] <^aDaM> quake4 is saved to /home/god/quake4
[20:14] <^aDaM> ah ok daftykins  :)
[20:14] <daftykins> right click on it, go to properties, make it executable
[20:15] <^aDaM> Just copy?
[20:15] <^aDaM> ah nice.
[20:15] <daftykins> or with the terminal it's "chmod +x quake4-linux-1.4.2.x86.run" as the guide says
[20:15] <^aDaM> Ah yes :)
[20:16] <^aDaM> Thats kinda cool .
[20:16] <^aDaM> I have forgot all this since the first releases of Ubuntu daftykins I used to be so good on here.
[20:16] <^aDaM> Been a while, you meet a women have babys an thats it :D
[20:16] <daftykins> ^_^
[20:16] <^aDaM> Bye bye linuxxx
[20:16] <^aDaM> :p
[20:17] <^aDaM> Bye car..
[20:17] <^aDaM> pride an joy :(
[20:17] <daftykins> cars are mere tools ;)
[20:17] <^aDaM> aye lol
[20:17] <daftykins> clearly a statement that doesn't apply to computers... *whistle*
[20:17] <^aDaM> I had a V6 4motion Bora.
[20:17] <^aDaM> :/
[20:17] <^aDaM> was 2.8
[20:17] <^aDaM> :D
[20:17] <^aDaM> hahah yeah "Electric"
[20:17] <^aDaM> bahh!
[20:20] <^aDaM> daftykins, I have all *pk4's in /home/god/quake4/q4base then I have that quake3-linux.1.4.2.x86.run download in to /quake4/
[20:20] <^aDaM> How do I run quake4? './quake4' ?
[20:21] <daftykins> you need to run that .run file first
[20:21] <^aDaM> Ah yes.
[20:21] <^aDaM> Double click?
[20:21] <daftykins> so if you have a terminal open inside that folder
[20:21] <daftykins> and you've made it executable, either with chmod +x or the graphical properties method
[20:21] <daftykins> run it with "./blah.run"
[20:22] <daftykins> and it should do stuff(TM)
[20:22] <^aDaM> :D ok!
[20:22] <^aDaM> here goes..
[20:22] <^aDaM> Whats '*' ? is that like global :
[20:22] <^aDaM> :/
[20:23] <daftykins> hmm? when did an asterisk show up?
[20:23] <daftykins> oh in the copy command? asterisk is a wildcard meaning <anything> yeah
[20:23] <^aDaM> No such file dir in console when I do that :/
[20:24] <^aDaM> mmmm odd.
[20:24] <daftykins> type 'pwd'
[20:24] <^aDaM> :o
[20:24] <daftykins> does it tell you you're in /home/god/quake4/ ?
[20:24] <^aDaM> says im in /home/god/
[20:24] <daftykins> ok 'cd quake4'
[20:24] <daftykins> then "./quake3-linux.1.4.2.x86.run"
[20:24] <^aDaM> nope :((
[20:24] <^aDaM> damn.
[20:24] <daftykins> oops
[20:24] <^aDaM> haha quake4
[20:24] <^aDaM> :p
[20:25] <daftykins> i copied from your line before XD
[20:25] <^aDaM> lol
[20:25] <daftykins> i didn't even notice :D
[20:25] <^aDaM> :D
[20:25] <^aDaM> haha
[20:25] <^aDaM> This is weird how its not running :/
[20:25] <^aDaM> thats the Cd?
[20:25] <daftykins> what did it do this time?
[20:25] <daftykins> change directory
[20:26] <^aDaM> yeah need it to be home/god/quake4/
[20:26] <daftykins> you should be in ~/quake4 now, which is /home/god/quake4/
[20:26] <daftykins> ~ = /home/<current-user>/
[20:26] <^aDaM> yeah im in
[20:26] <^aDaM> but when I do that run :(
[20:26] <daftykins> if you type "./q" then hit tab does it resolve the full file name?
[20:26] <^aDaM> ahh works
[20:27] <^aDaM> with out *
[20:27] <^aDaM> Quake 4 TM
[20:27] <^aDaM> yeha baby
[20:33] <^aDaM> It's asking me for dir :/
[20:33] <^aDaM> when I install this patch
[20:34] <^aDaM> daftykins, Please enter the installation path [/usr/local/games/quake4]
[20:34] <^aDaM> Mmm I im confused I feel like a right noob.
[20:34] <^aDaM> [1] - note that if you have the DVD release, all the files are in
[20:34] <^aDaM> the same directory. Otherwise they are spread out on each CDs.
[20:34] <^aDaM> For the DVD edition, the files are in Setup/Data/q4base
[20:34] <^aDaM> [2] - http://www.libsdl.org/
[20:34] <^aDaM> Please enter the installation path [/usr/local/games/quake4]
[20:35] <daftykins> type in /home/god/quake4/
[20:35] <^aDaM> Ok now I get
[20:35] <^aDaM> Please enter the path in which to create the symbolic links [/usr/local/bin]
[20:36] <daftykins> yep hit enter
[20:36] <^aDaM> No write permission to /usr/local/bin
[20:36] <^aDaM> Please enter the installation path [/home/god/quake4/]
[20:36] <^aDaM> blink blink :o
[20:36] <daftykins> ah naturally
[20:36] <daftykins> hit enter again to accept that one
[20:37] <daftykins> then just put /home/god/quake4/ again
[20:37] <^aDaM> Please enter the path in which to create the symbolic links [/usr/local/bin] /home/god/quake4/
[20:37] <^aDaM> Binary path must be different than the install path.
[20:37] <^aDaM> The binary path must be an existing directory.
[20:37] <^aDaM> Please enter the installation path [/home/god/quake4/]
[20:38] <daftykins> ugh
[20:38] <daftykins> enter again on install
[20:38] <^aDaM> lol
[20:38] <daftykins> /home/god/ instead :>
[20:38] <daftykins> that should shut it up
[20:38] <^aDaM> muaha neat man :D
[20:39] <^aDaM> Installation complete.
[20:39] <^aDaM> Would you like to start now? [Y/n] y
[20:39] <^aDaM> sh: 1: /home/god//quake4: Permission denied
[20:39] <^aDaM> god@crashoverride-desktop:~/quake4$
[20:39] <^aDaM> mmm ughh
[20:39] <daftykins> chmod +x quake4
[20:39] <daftykins> ./quake4
[20:39] <daftykins> ?
[20:44] <daftykins> i'm gonna go with - yes
[20:52] <^aDaM> ouch!
[20:52] <^aDaM> I dont think ubuntu 13.04 likes the default res of quake4 lol daftykins :o and its all in Spannish I better learn it quick lol.
[20:53] <daftykins> lmao
[20:53]  * ^aDaM goes in to Quake4Config.cfg
[20:53] <^aDaM> Need to change the res the same as my desktop here.
[20:53] <^aDaM> and do seta sys_langauge "english"
[20:54] <daftykins> don't typo language!
[20:55] <^aDaM> lol sorry :D
[20:55] <^aDaM> Well I never went to school daftykins I am dyslesic or what ever ya call it lol.
[20:55] <^aDaM> Seriously!
[20:56] <^aDaM> Well I found that there is a autoexec.cfg daftykins  in quake4/q4base/lol/rofl its just one command that says: seta sys_lang "spanish"
[20:56] <^aDaM> I have removed all other lang.pk4's and kept english :D
[20:58] <daftykins> hmm that might work
[21:00] <^aDaM> mmm now its all in srg_0x9x9x0x code :/
[21:00] <^aDaM> the menu lool now ive really broke it :P also my screen res is huge right now I dont know how to reset it :o
[21:02] <brobostigon> blackadder2 bbc2 :)
[21:02] <^aDaM> hey brobostigon
[21:02] <^aDaM> :)
[21:02] <brobostigon> evening ^aDaM
[21:03] <^aDaM> I must restart again lol
[21:11] <^aDaM> mmm weird, I fixed the lang but now when I open it and I have no mouse pointer :/
[21:11] <^aDaM> and I can't use the menus at all I have to open ingame console an type quit :o
[21:11] <^aDaM> and my res is huge!
[21:12] <^aDaM> Would this be due to graphics drivers? would I need to install them :/ I know in the older versions of Ubuntu you had to install them but I did updates on installation when I installed Ubuntu 13.04
[21:12] <daftykins> you most likely want the proprietary driver for your card, if you have a proper graphics card yeah
[21:13] <^aDaM> daftykins, yeah it's a 8800GT nvidia.
[21:13] <daftykins> ah old school
[21:13] <^aDaM> ehehe everyone says that!
[21:14] <^aDaM> I am going for a new rig soon :)
[21:14] <daftykins> the PC i have had one of those when i put it together back in Christmas 2007 :>
[21:14] <^aDaM> Thinking windows 8 and buntu :D dual boot on new rig.
[21:14] <daftykins> although it died a few years ago so i upgraded
[21:14] <^aDaM> ouch sorry to hear that
[21:14] <daftykins> did you install ubuntu 13.04 ?
[21:14] <^aDaM> I got mine for my birthday in 2007
[21:14] <^aDaM> an still going :)
[21:14] <^aDaM> yes I did install 13.04
[21:15] <daftykins> so if you click that dash icon on the top left of the sidebar
[21:15] <daftykins> then type 'additional drivers' and run it
[21:16] <daftykins> hopefully that will offer you the nvidia driver download
[21:16] <^aDaM> ah Ubuntu software Centre.
[21:17] <daftykins> yip last tab in there i think
[21:18] <^aDaM> My icons are different lol
[21:18] <^aDaM> Irish back-to-front :o
[21:19] <^aDaM> If I was to install Doom 3 daftykins would it be the same method ?
[21:20] <daftykins> probably similar, i'm sure there will be a guide online too
[21:21] <^aDaM> Yeah Im sure I seen one once but I can't find it lol
[21:21] <^aDaM> I found the Linux patch of 1.3
[21:21] <^aDaM> http://www.the-emz.com/download/
[21:21] <^aDaM> My fav D3 Modders :p
[21:23] <^aDaM> The thing is with Doom 3 there is 3 Discs :o
[21:24] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[21:25] <daftykins> ^aDaM: yep that's gonna be a fun copying task
[21:25] <daftykins> bigcalm: hi o/
[21:26] <^aDaM> lol yeah it's a big game :o
[21:26] <^aDaM> \o/ bigcalm
[21:26]  * ^aDaM starts to copy... 
[21:30] <popey> pip pip bigcalm
[21:30] <bigcalm> And a tally ho
[21:31] <bigcalm> Digging got a little dull didn't it?
[21:31] <directhex> man, the wifi on this laptop sucks. no wonder we had trouble with civ5 multiplayer
[21:32] <popey> ☻
[21:37] <^aDaM> :D
[21:38] <^aDaM> mmm I want to copy file fro cd1 doom3 an I am following this currently.. I know its old but I using the new methods...
[21:38] <^aDaM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894519
[22:46] <bigcalm> Why oh why can't I stop working outside of office hours?