[00:00] <elisa87> I am not installing ubuntu I want to create a disk image which has all the /mnt folders like /bin / lib /lib64 /opt / ... what not so I can natively compiler my benchmarks using gcc inside the chroot
[00:01] <Jordan_U> elisa87: Then it sounds like it doesn't need to be bootable.
[00:01] <elisa87> histo:  sudo debootstrap lucid /mnt/installer (what should I use instead of  lucid? )
[00:01] <histo> elisa87: what version of ubuntu do you want to "test" with
[00:02] <elisa87> but when I create it like that it doesn't have any of those folders when I chroot except lost&found ... histo Jordan_U
[00:02] <histo> elisa87: it will
[00:02] <elisa87> uname -a
[00:02] <elisa87> Linux mona 3.2.0-43-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 15 03:33:33 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:02] <elisa87> histo my version is 12.04
[00:03] <elisa87> so what should I put instead of lucid?
[00:03] <HypothesisFrog> hi. Bit of a newby question. I want to set up my bouncer so it launches automatical after bootup. But of course, I don't want it to have root privileges. How do I do that?
[00:03] <histo> elisa87: precise
[00:04] <histo> elisa87: what sort of benchmark testing are you going to be doing?
[00:04] <johan`> Hey guys, I've been getting a lot of requests about allowing remote desktop viewing of my laptop lately from random IPs and from some website called http://www.nodosud.com.ar/ and I'm feeling pretty nervous, do you think I could have a virus or something? I don't install any weird stuff on this laptop or anything though...
[00:04] <johan`> Of course I've denied the requests
[00:04] <histo> johan`: because you have an open port that is common. Try running an ssh server and watch the failed hack attempts mount up.
[00:05] <histo> johan`: what are you using for remote desktop?
[00:05] <elisa87> histo openmp version of these https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~skadron/wiki/rodinia/index.php/Main_Page benchmarks so basically I will need gcc 4.2 +
[00:05] <johan`> histo: I dunno, whatever comes with Ubuntu
[00:06] <histo> elisa87: any reason you are doing this ina  chroot vs. on your install?
[00:06] <histo> johan`: vnc so probably port 5900 is open.
[00:06] <elisa87> because simulator boots the Linux kernel from the .iso it doesn't accept the benchmarks which are compiled with my system so I have to compile them natively histo
[00:07] <emona> i
[00:08] <elisa87> how long usually debootstrap thing take ? histo
[00:08] <johan`> histo: But ok, yeah. I should close them from my router right? And only my router, it's not like the laptop itself is relevant in this situation?
[00:08] <histo> johan`: do you ever remote connect to it from offsite?
[00:09] <johan`> histo: Nope, I've opened a few ports on my router though.
[00:10] <johan`> histo: (which I'll obviously close now)
[00:13] <elisa87> histo: I am not getting this? what's wrong? Jordan_U
[00:13] <histo> elisa87: few minutes to download packages.  Another option for you maybe to use linux containers
[00:13] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5746796/ histo: I am not getting this? what's wrong? Jordan_U
[00:14] <johan`> histo:  Anyway, thank you for calming me down :)
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: You have to run [ sudo mount --bind ] on a couple of those... I'll tell you what they are in just a sec
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: OK, run [ sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/mount_x86/dev ; sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/mount_x86/proc ; sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/mount_x86/sys ]
[00:17] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5746805/ SonikkuAmerica
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: Then try chrooting in.
[00:17] <elisa87> mount: mount point /mnt/mount_x86/dev does not exist
[00:17] <elisa87> mount: mount point /mnt/mount_x86/dev does not exist SonikkuAmerica
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: Got it... one sec.\
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: Are you doing this from your Live image?
[00:19] <jeremiah_> histo,  K, so i burned grml to a disk, and it got stuck at loading grml file... Any ideas?
[00:19] <elisa87> histo ... I made a mistake in binding the dev and now everything just got damaged http://paste.ubuntu.com/5746811/ SonikkuAmerica How can I unbind something which was mistakenly bounded?
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: If you do that, just umount the drive and remount it.
[00:20] <thiebaude> Does anyone have a link to how to install ati radeon hd 4250 graphics drivers in Ubuntu 13.04?
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: Then try rebinding.
[00:22] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5746819/ SonikkuAmerica
[00:23] <g_byers> So, would anyone have a solution to waking ubuntu when lid is opened?
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: Rebooting should fix that problem...
[00:23] <elisa87> why rebooting fixes the problem? SonikkuAmerica
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> elisa87: It'll clear the mounts (because they aren't set to autofs)
[00:26] <jeremiah_> histo,  K, so i burned grml to a disk, and it got stuck at loading grml file... Any ideas?
[00:27] <iceroot> g_byers: power button
[00:27] <Sazpaimon> does ZFS make sense on ubuntu desktop?
[00:27] <iceroot> Sazpaimon: no
[00:28] <kostkon_> Sazpaimon, ext4 is good enough
[00:28] <g_byers> iceroot that is not a solution...
[00:28] <iceroot> Sazpaimon: its still not 100% supported by the kernel
[00:28] <g_byers> on windows 8, when you open it, it resumes
[00:28] <thiebaude> any suggestions on how to install radeon hd 4250 graphic drivers in ubuntu 13.04?
[00:28] <iceroot> g_byers: the same here on my ubuntu 13.04
[00:28] <iceroot> !amd | thiebaude
[00:28] <iceroot> !ati | thiebaude
[00:28] <thiebaude> iceroot, thansk
[00:29] <thiebaude> thanks
[00:29] <g_byers> iceroot knows when the lid is closed, so why not when opened :P
[00:29] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: Either one works :)
[00:31] <Siecje> I have a hp pavilion dv2000 and the wireless works but the wired doesn't
[00:33] <Siecje> I just installed ubuntu 12.04
[00:37] <nick67856> Hi all. I've got a lovely new mouse, called a "DXT Ergonomic Mouse" ( http://www.cityergonomics.com/ ). It's great but the scroll wheel doesn't work.
[00:37] <nick67856> evtest gives output like:
[00:37] <nick67856> type 2 (EV_REL), code 2 (REL_Z), value 1
[00:37] <nick67856> or
[00:37] <nick67856> type 2 (EV_REL), code 2 (REL_Z), value -1
[00:37] <nick67856> any ideas what I need to do to get this working? I'm using the last Ubuntu LTS release (12.04).
[00:38] <duckx0r> I have a postfix mail server on Ubuntu, but I just realized I am sending mail to dovecot instead of procmail. Can anyone tell me what the mailbox_command should be for procmail?
[00:42] <atidoomed> hey, anyone has experience in installing ubuntu on a hp laptop with switchable graphic cards?
[00:45] <Sazpaimon> on an EFI system, why doesn't /boot reside on the EFI system partition?
[00:53] <wwu_> tell floodBot hi
[00:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> hullo. I should like to try something. I have the followind devices on my network: Current pc (dell inspiron one 2205), my samba server (mutt from hell), and my officejet 8600. My current config has the pc&server connected via an ethernet cable, pc to the wifi ap, and printer to same ip. I have a linksys BEFW11S4, which I should like to use to link the above three devices hard-wired. anyone with experience in this area/good link?
[00:55] <th4tcat> my ubuntu 13.04 is not recognizing my disc drive or any of my usb ports - what caused this and how can i fix it? it all happened one day when i removed and reinserted a usb pen drive
[00:56] <duckx0r> ntzrmtthihu777, you could probably just use DHCP on all devices, couldn't you?
[00:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> duckx0r: you tell me, I'm pretty n00bish dealing with this stuff.
[00:57] <wwu_> can someone can include my name in a msg ? just want to test notification
[00:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> wwu_: does this help?
[00:57] <duckx0r> ntzrmtthihu777, actually you might want to use static DHCP. so depending on the device's MAC address it will get the same IP all the time
[00:57] <wwu_> thank you it works well :)
[00:58] <wwu_> ntzrmtthihu777, thank you :)
[00:58] <Siecje> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a hp pavilion dv2000 laptop and the wireless network is working but the wired network is not
[00:58] <duckx0r> ntzrmtthihu777, i'm not sure how you do that with your linksys, but it's probably in the manual
[00:59] <til4k> ive got hp dv6985se Siecje hehe
[00:59] <til4k> was yours refurbed
[00:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> duckx0r: heh, second had for $3, no manual :P
[00:59] <duckx0r> ntzrmtthihu777, google it. i'm sure it's online
[00:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> duckx0r: have been and continue to do so as we speak, just thought I'd poll the collective knowledge of #ubuntu
[01:00] <Siecje> til4k: not sure, bought it off a friend. Any ideas how to get the wired adapter working?
[01:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Siecje: lspci -nn is a good place to start. gives nice google search clues :D
[01:00] <til4k> Siecje: can you plug it directly into a cable modem
[01:00] <sgarbesi> I have SSH keys setup between 2 servers and if SSH to either of those servers using their external IPs SSH works fine, I am not prompted for a password. But when I try to connect to either of them via their internal IP addresses, it prompts me for a password. I tried adding the identity to the config file but it seems that isn't working either. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:01] <Fenb> are there any good WMs?
[01:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> sgarbesi: what do you mean internal vs external? I've got ssh setup between my pc and server, and this sparks my curiosity.
[01:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Fenb: xfwm is good :P
[01:02] <Siecje> til4k: it is my modem has ports and I plugged it in
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: i3wm, stumpwm, xfwm, openbox, fluxbox and xbmc are for trying
[01:02] <sgarbesi> i have 3 web servers that are in an internal network together, they each have ip addresses of 192.168.x.x. if i'm on 1 web server i can ssh to the other using 68.33.33.33 no problem, but when i try to ssh via 192.168.x.x, i get prompted for the password
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | Fenb, but really
[01:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> SonikkuAmerica: hey man, aint seen you in a bit :P
[01:03] <sgarbesi> external being -- the world can access it, internal being -- only anyone inside the network can access
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ntzrmtthihu777: Yeah - ltns
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> I've been around though
[01:03] <sgarbesi> I'm been googling and tinkering with this thing for an hour, i can't figure out what's wrong :(
[01:04] <your_dad> anyone is able to connect to SIP using Empathy ?
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> sgarbesi: 192.168.x.x designate Cisco internal IPs...
[01:05] <sgarbesi> Sonikku their already designated...
[01:05] <Siecje> ntzrmtthihu777: should I do that when the ethernet cable is plugged in
[01:05] <sgarbesi> i can ping and communicate with the servers without a problem
[01:05] <sgarbesi> its the SSH keys that won't work without prompting me for a password
[01:05] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: i have heard about fluxbox openbox, but i just want a replacer for x interface ;)
[01:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Siecje: shouldn't matter.
[01:05] <your_dad> Works fine using pidgin but I would like to make it work using empathy
[01:05] <sgarbesi> i SSH into box 1… from box 1 i attempt to ssh to box 2 via the 192.x.x.x, prompts for password
[01:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Have you tried Wayland?
[01:06] <sgarbesi> if from Box #1 i ssh to Box #2 using Box #2's external IP address, it works fine, no password prompt
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> sgarbesi: But from Box #2 to Box #1 is the problem.
[01:06] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: Nope
[01:06] <sgarbesi> it might be I'm not sure?
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Wait... whaddaya mean my "X interface"?
[01:06] <sgarbesi> the IPs are already designated
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: *by
[01:07] <sgarbesi> X being a variable of #'s
[01:07] <jeremiah_> Anyone know much about grml?
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> sgarbesi: Right.
[01:07] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: then you dont really have any WM or DE.. you know then you start with startx? :P
[01:07] <your_dad> has anyone managed to make SIP work with empathy ?
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Oh... so you're looking for a replacement for the X window system...
[01:07] <sgarbesi> Box #1: ssh 192.168.x.x (box 2s internal network ip), password prompt
[01:07] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: yea
[01:08] <sgarbesi> Box #1: ssh 68.33.x.x (box 2s external ip), works
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: It might surprise you to know you're ahead of the game... GNOME, KDE, and e17 are expected to be ported to Wayland... we're not sure about the other DEs yet.
[01:08] <energizer> What's the difference between separating bash commands with && vs with ;
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Or Weston.
[01:08] <jeremiah_> Anyone know how to clone a hdd without using liveCD?
[01:09] <sgarbesi> anyone have any ideas?
[01:10] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: i could live with x window system but, i got no border and i dont like they way you resize and remove windows :P
[01:10] <Fenb> it*
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> energizcer: && is "logical AND"; i.e. if something happens that causes cmd1 (for [ cmd1 && cmd2 ]) to return != 0, cmd2 will not execute. A ; , however, means if cmd1 returns != 0, cmd2 will execute itself anyway.
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> energizer: ^
[01:10] <jeremiah_> Anyone know much about cloning hdds?
[01:11] <energizer> SonikkuAmerica: i get it. thanks.
[01:11] <sgarbesi> http://superuser.com/questions/519503/ssh-rsa-key-works-with-external-ip-not-internal-ip
[01:11] <sgarbesi> same exact problem as this guy
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> clone
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> !clone
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> jeremiah_, You can clone in a number of ways state what you want for best help.
[01:13] <your_dad> Has anyone managed to get SIP to work with empathy ?
[01:13] <jeremiah_> I want to copy my Ubuntu os with everything on it to another hdd
[01:13] <jeremiah_> the partition
[01:13] <Sazpaimon> on an EFI system, why doesn't /boot reside on the EFI system partition? Is it a space issue?
[01:13] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, look into dd
[01:13] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, I did.. And i ran into issues while trying to use it.
[01:13] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, issues?
[01:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Oops, XFCE died on me...
[01:14] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  errors
[01:14] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: haha :o
[01:14] <Nach0z> ruh roh
[01:14] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, more specifically
[01:14] <jeremiah_> well, i'll run through the steps, and tell you what errors i get, k? I did it a few days ago, i can't remember
[01:15] <nick67856> can anyone help me with the mouse wheel not working on my new mouse or suggest a better channel?
[01:15] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, well is the hard drive corrupted or something?
[01:15] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: is it useful now to use Wayland or Weston
[01:15] <jeremiah_> duck Not that i know of...
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Speaking of which, it might be ported to Wayland if it embraces GTK+ 3 entirely. Also, LXDE's possible Qt port may make it Wayland-compatible too. So far, though, only GNOME, KDE and e17 have definite plans to incorpate Wayland- or Weston-compatible stuff.
[01:16] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  First error: dd: opening `/dev/sda': Permission denied
[01:16] <jeremiah_> command used: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=32M
[01:16] <jeremiah_> those are my hdds.
[01:16] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, you need to be root to do that
[01:17] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, do sudo {{your command}}
[01:17] <jeremiah_> k
[01:17] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, make sure the hard drive is not mounted too
[01:17] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Is it ok if i did sudo su then i did the command?
[01:18] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, yeah, as long as you have root access
[01:18] <jeremiah_> k
[01:18] <jeremiah_> now it just shows a cursor in terminal. is that what it is suppose to do?
[01:21] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  It says i have to unmount it manually.
[01:21]  * kiyoura is away: Auto-away after 2 mins idle (gone at 9th Jun, 01:21:20)
[01:22] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, that's what i told you. unmount it first
[01:22] <Siecje>  ntzrmtthihu777 this is what I get when I do lspci -nn https://dpaste.de/W42L0/
[01:22] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, type "mount | grep sda"
[01:22] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Turns out, it is dev/sdc So how do i unmount manually??
[01:22] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, umount
[01:22] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: i dont really replacement for X only its GUI. but thx for showing me about Wayland. im just tired of DE that comes with additional applications.
[01:23] <atom_> Top cli apps?
[01:23] <jeremiah_> So, whats the command for unmounting /dev/sdc? Your last command didnt work
[01:23] <your_dad> has anyone made SIP protocol work with Empathy ?
[01:23] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  So, whats the command for unmounting /dev/sdc? Your last command didnt work
[01:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: Oh! Well state your real problem then! :) In that case... that kind of defeats the purpose of having a desktop environment.
[01:24] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: is it better with WM in my purpose?
[01:24] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, you can't mount /dev/sdc, you mount a partition on /dev/sdc. try "mount | grep sdc" to see what is mounted
[01:25] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, Brought up nothing. And gparted wont let me format it
[01:25] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, /dev/sdc is basically like saying the entire hard drive. you mount partitions on the hard drive, not the hard drive itself
[01:25] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, ah, you might have it mounted using the UUID
[01:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: DEs and WMs usually go hand in hand: GNOME with Mutter, Unity with Metacity, MATE with Metacity, KDE with KWin, XFCE with Xfwm, LXDE with Openbox, etc...
[01:25] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  It has one partition, and i want to get rid of it.
[01:26] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, do you know where it's mounted?
[01:26] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  not exactly...
[01:26] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, one sec
[01:26] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Other than its on hdd /dev/sdc
[01:26] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, try "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid | grep sdc"
[01:26] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, Partition being /dev/sdc2
[01:27] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, ah, well you can just "umount /dev/sdc2"
[01:27] <duckx0r> probably
[01:27] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  says it isnt mounted
[01:27] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, haha. uhm. did that command I just gave you output anything?
[01:28] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, anything besides sdc2 that is
[01:28] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, umount: /dev/sdc2 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[01:28] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, no, the ls command
[01:28] <Fenb> SonikkuAmerica: but is it possible to just get the core of the DE or WM rather than the additional applications? its so hard to choose then you have so much to choose from. do you think it would conflict if i try out all that wm and de, just for finding the right one :D
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Fenb: You can actually do that in Ubuntu with MATE
[01:29] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jun  8 20:24 e04b8749-6bf7-4ef4-ae9f-c9d7cbaf3b18 -> ../../sdc2
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !MATE
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Dangit
[01:30] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, i'm confused. it says it's mounted, but then when you try to unmount it it says it's not?
[01:30] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Yea.
[01:30] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, does gparted show it as being mounted somewhere?
[01:30] <Siecje> ok this is what I get from "sudo lshw -C network" https://dpaste.de/zMOwu/
[01:31] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, When i try to unmount it via gparted, it says it can't, and must be unmounted manually.
[01:31] <jeremiah_> dThe partition could not be unmounted from the following mount points:
[01:31] <jeremiah_> Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mount points. You are advised to unmount them manually.uckx0r,
[01:32] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, is anything from /dev/sdc in your /etc/fstab file?
[01:33] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  i dont understand
[01:33] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, i mean, maybe just reboot the computer. of course, if it's in /etc/fstab it will just re-mount it
[01:34] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  So just reboot?
[01:34] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, look in your /etc/fstab first
[01:35] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  WHich is where?
[01:35] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, do you see anything referencing /dev/sdc2 or that above UUID (e04b8749-6bf7-4ef4-ae9f-c9d7cbaf3b18) ?
[01:35] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, type: cat /etc/fstab
[01:36] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, /etc/fstab is the location of that file
[01:36] <hackson> helo everyone!
[01:36] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Hang on, i have to reboot. my internet wont load pages, but wont drop chat lol
[01:37] <hackson> anybody like lubuntu?
[01:39] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Alright, Back. Do what now?
[01:40] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, it might just work. try it now
[01:40] <Siecje> ntzrmtthihu777: this is what I get from "sudo lshw -C network" https://dpaste.de/zMOwu/ any suggestions what to try next?
[01:41] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Same error
[01:42] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, do you see anything in your /etc/fstab referencing /dev/sdc2 or that above UUID (e04b8749-6bf7-4ef4-ae9f-c9d7cbaf3b18) ?
[01:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> Serano_: ethernet cable, right? doesn't show up at all in nm-tool?
[01:42] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  I know some about partitions, and files and whatnot, but not that much
[01:43] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  The output of the cat command you gave is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5746957/
[01:44] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, ok, yeah, you're probably gonna screw up your system :P
[01:44] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  lol...
[01:44] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, /dev/sdc2 is mounted at /
[01:44] <beethoven2> is there an open source alternative to the google spam filter that isn't a pain to set up?
[01:45] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Isnt that like my filesystem?
[01:45] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, yes
[01:45] <beethoven2> (if I run my own mail server)
[01:45] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, that's the root of the file system
[01:45] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  That isnt good, is it...
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> beethoven2: 10minutemail is pretty nice. oh, for a server. idk
[01:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> jeremiah_: you can think of / as C:\ on windows
[01:45] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, well, for one it's impossible to unmount it unless you're using a live cd
[01:45] <jeremiah_> ntzrmtthihu777,  Havent used windows for two years :P
[01:46] <messa4> hello
[01:46] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  So it all goes down to liveCD...
[01:46] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, and probably whatever you're using to chat with me and all other files are stored there too
[01:46] <c00lh3r3tic> ah, my kinda people! Linux people!1
[01:46] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  But how??? It is a separate hdd, and i can remove it when i want!
[01:47] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, it's not a separate HDD
[01:47] <messa4> quick question: what is name of tool that allows me to send various signals to process? (like sending SIGKILL with "kill") ?
[01:47] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, ?
[01:47] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, I would imagine you're getting mixed up at which hard drive is which
[01:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: killall whatever does the trick for me :P
[01:47] <rypervenche> c00lh3r3tic: That's what we are^^
[01:48] <messa4> ntzrmtthihu777: how? killall only sends SIGKILL
[01:48] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  In gparted, this partition says it is on a different hdd, and it is a different size. so how>??
[01:48] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, different than what?
[01:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: what exactly are you attempting to do, then?
[01:48] <rypervenche> messa4: killall sends a SIGTERM. You can change it using -9 for a SIGKILL. Run "man 7 signal" to learn all of the numbers.
[01:49] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  I can see this partition is on a separate hdd
[01:49] <messa4> ntzrmtthihu777: i want to send other signals then SIGKILL. there is such tool in every linux i just forgot utility name
[01:49] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  SO how is it in my root?
[01:49] <messa4> rypervenche: i know that
[01:49] <rypervenche> messa4: So you can send any signal using killall, kill, pkill, etc.
[01:49] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  WHen i can remove it anytime i want, and still have ubuntu working?
[01:49] <messa4> rypervenche: what is the name of utility thall allows me to send OTher signals ? (like for example SIGPROF or SIGXCPU (24) etc )
[01:50] <Ben64> messa4: kill
[01:50] <rypervenche> messa4: killall -24
[01:50] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, because that's not the hard drive you are removing, you're removing the other one
[01:50] <rypervenche> messa4: or kill, or pkill, depending on exactly what you want to do.
[01:50] <rypervenche> messa4: Just put a dash in front of the number and it will send that signal.
[01:51] <messa4> rypervenche: THank you! :)
[01:51] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  wait wha??? I have an external, and that is what i am trying to unmount.
[01:51] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  And it doesnt have my os on it.
[01:51] <bonhoeffer> i really screwed up -- think i wrote random data to the first 5 mb of my boot disk
[01:51] <bonhoeffer> now ubuntu won't boot -- any options?
[01:51] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, your external isn't /dev/sdc then
[01:51] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, it's something else
[01:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: have a live cd/usb?
[01:51] <messa4> bonhoeffer: there are some utilities (gpart i think NOT the gtk one) - that would help u to recover MBR from backup sectors
[01:52] <bonhoeffer> ntzrmtthihu777: making one now
[01:52] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  But it has to be! I can tell via size difference of hdds
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: boot-repair should trick the doo
[01:52] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, remove your external HDD and refresh the devices in gparted then
[01:52] <bonhoeffer> ntzrmtthihu777: is that a live cd?
[01:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !grub | bonhoeffer
[01:52] <messa4> bonhoeffer: what you need to do is "restore the mbr" (just find proper tool for it. afik gpart cant do it).
[01:52] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  I copied my partition once, and i think i failed at it (It wont boot) so it is a replica of it, but a broken one
[01:53] <bonhoeffer> a distro or an ap i can run on the distro
[01:53] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  And it dissapears.
[01:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: its a grub-repair ubuntu package. you can install it (temporarily of course) on the live cd/usb and run it to fix your grub/mbr etc
[01:53] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[01:53] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, /dev/sdc disappeared?
[01:54] <jeremiah_> yes
[01:54] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  I can boot from liveCD, but it will take ten or so minutes...
[01:54] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, no need
[01:55] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Alright, so it disappears when i remove it. now what>
[01:55] <jeremiah_> ?
[01:55] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, i don't know how /dev/sdc2 has that UUID and your /etc/fstab says that that's the partition for your root filesystem
[01:55] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, what is the output of: mount | grep "on / "
[01:56] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:56] <bonhoeffer> ok, i've downloaded 13.04 desktop iso on a windows box -- best way to turn a usb stick into a live boot
[01:56] <bonhoeffer> unetbootin the best way?
[01:57] <TKing> hi please someone help me -- am running ubuntu how do i launch gparted
[01:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> TKing: likely you will have to install it first, its not default (it is, however, on the live cd)
[01:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: unetbootin worked for me well enough.
[01:58] <your_dad> TKing: sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dad! get off irc, you're drunk!
[01:58] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, i'm not sure man. it's weird that it says it's mounted, but you can't unmount it
[01:58] <bonhoeffer> is that different than pen drive linux
[01:59] <TKing> i have live usb with ubuntu 13.04 is gparted inside? if so how do I run it in GUI am trying ubuntu and need to do EFI partion please should i do?
[01:59] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  LiveCD?
[01:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: not a clue, sir. I've always used usb-creator-gtk linux side and unetbootin windows side.
[01:59] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, might be a good idea, just make sure you get the right partitions or you could overwrite the wrong one
[02:00] <TKing> your_dad i think its installed but how do i run it
[02:00] <jeremiah_> duckx0r,  yea lol
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> TKing: search the dash for it (assuming unity)
[02:00] <Vitamin-D> what's the lastest version of ubuntu distro that is made available?
[02:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Vitamin-D: 13.04
[02:00] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, good luck
[02:00] <jeremiah_> duckx0r, so like, see you in 15 minutes? 100% Fact i will need help for some odd reason.
[02:01] <duckx0r> jeremiah_, install xchat on the livecd
[02:01] <jeremiah_> k
[02:04] <bonhoeffer> what should i format my usb drive to make a live cd?
[02:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: unetbootin handles all of that.
[02:05] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . . my 4gb usb disk is coming up as only 8mb in windows
[02:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> bonhoeffer: perhaps its a format windows does not understand.
[02:06] <bonhoeffer> can't i clear it all
[02:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> do you have any available linux system that works?
[02:06] <bonhoeffer> no
[02:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> if all else fails you could just burn a livecd, that will work 100%.
[02:08] <bonhoeffer> no cd drive or any blank cd's available
[02:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> :/ well that sucks.
[02:08] <bonhoeffer> in windows disk manager -- will format fat32
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> bonhoeffer, Clean the trash in the usb or format it fat32
[02:09] <tones> format fat 32, then install Multisystem from the repository
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> tones, multisystem runs in linux not MS.
[02:10] <tones> ok thought you were in linux
[02:10] <tones> then pendrivelinux
[02:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, nope. thats his issue here :P
[02:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> scragged his grub, likely.
[02:12] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r, k back
[02:13] <tolland> somewhere between kernel 3.2 and 3.8, something is no longer supported on my nc6400, it hangs just after the selection of the kernel version in boot menu
[02:13] <tolland> or I can boot in recovery mode, or
[02:13] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Unmounted it, and got rid of it. Now what?
[02:13] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, got rid of what?
[02:13] <Jeremiah_> the old partition on the hdd i am cloning my partition onto
[02:13] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, try doing the dd command now
[02:13] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r, ^
[02:14] <owlie> hi.. i can't get X11 Forwarding working through PuTTY on ubuntu 12.04
[02:14] <owlie> all enabled in ssh/sshd config, xeyes returns "Can't open display:"
[02:14] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  So, i take it as it wont show progress.
[02:15] <TKing> guys am trying to create a EFI partioion
[02:15] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  How do i know when it finishes?
[02:16] <owlie> is that because my DISPLAY variable isn't correctly set?  localhost0:0 is what i have set in putty for X11 Forwarding
[02:16] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, guess not. i can't remember whether it showed progress or not. i haven't used it in a while
[02:16] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, it should just go to the next line when it's finished
[02:16] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r, k.
[02:16] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, how big is the drive?
[02:16] <Jeremiah_> The partition i am copying is 25 gb
[02:17] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, shouldn't take too long then.
[02:17] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  With swap, 30 gb
[02:17] <owlie> no ideas?  help would be real appreciated :)
[02:17] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  one last question. I copied it like this once, and i got the grub gnu version screen with grub> input
[02:17] <TKing> guys am trying to create a EFI partition, i typed "gdisk -l /dev/sda" in terminal - output said Found valid MBR and GPT which do you want 1. mbr, 2 gpt. enter choice please how do i get EFI?
[02:18] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  What was the issue? How do i get around it?
[02:18] <bonhoeffer> what the heck is usb-fdd (floppy disk drive)?
[02:18] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, you said you were copying the whole drive though, not just one partition
[02:18] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  That is the whole drive :)
[02:18] <bonhoeffer> seems to me like usb is just usb -- i don't get the distinction between fdd. and hdd. with usb drives
[02:19] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  Whole drive is 30gb
[02:19] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  So, how do i fix the grub version screen?
[02:19] <bonhoeffer> yeah -- it just hangs on loading operating system
[02:19] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r, If it pops up again
[02:19] <owlie> would this be the wrong channel for help with something like X11 forwarding on ubuntu
[02:20] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, i would imagine the reason you got the "grub>" prompt is because the UUID of the partition changed. you need to re-run I think it's "update-grub"
[02:20] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, look up grub repair on your live cd
[02:20] <bonhoeffer> it looks like the usb drive is never getting queried
[02:20] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, i mean on google, using your live cd
[02:20] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  So, if i get it again, just run update-grub
[02:21] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, yeah, or just do it now
[02:21] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  This was AFTER i repaired the grub the first time
[02:21] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, oh, then i don't know
[02:21] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  First time i got an error about the grub. So i updated grub, then i got the grub> prompt
[02:23] <duckx0r> Jeremiah_, hmm not sure. i wouldn't want to give you the wrong advice
[02:23] <Jeremiah_> duckx0r,  mk...
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> Jeremiah_, I keep a copy of supergrub at hand to boot in when needed, its easier to fix grub from the intall.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> install*
[02:24] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  What is that?
[02:24] <animush> hey guys i have a problem with my ubuntu 12.04 install
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> Jeremiah_, This will explain. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[02:24] <animush> yesterday i started doing an update (370 updates to install)
[02:25] <animush> it got stuck on configuring grub-pc and hasn't progressed
[02:25] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  Kthnx
[02:25] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee, I'll look into it
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> Jeremiah_, Cool, it is a helpful tool at times.
[02:26] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  Might as well get it. So, if my grub has issues, i just pop the disk in?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Jeremiah_, Generally yes, however the grub files in ubuntu need to be in good shape, it basically bypasses the mbr.
[02:27] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  Meaning...?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> Jeremiah_, It works by searching for grub files. For example I have 3 OS on my computer and if I boot supergrub it will find all 3 and I can choose which to boot.
[02:28] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  Ah...
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> 3 linux setups that is.
[02:29] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  so would it be useful in my case? I have one linux, and plan on windows...
[02:30] <mymusise> when i install monodevelop ,it say :"Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
[02:30] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[02:30] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
[02:30] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
[02:30] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'"
[02:30] <FloodBot1> mymusise: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> Jeremiah_, It is an easy boot when its broken, rather then having to use a live cd to reload the mbr or purge and reload grub...etc, nothing is perfect though so answers that sat always works have variables and outliers.
[02:30] <mymusise> what happen?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> say*
[02:31] <Jeremiah_> wilee-nilee,  k...
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> tiny ISO though about 3 MB
[02:31] <animush> this update has just hung twice, never had this problem with updates before
[02:32] <daemeon> Hey all. How do I go about finding inspecting a document in ubuntu? What I mean is, if I created a file on computer A, how would I look at identifying information about the file on computer B (ubuntu)?
[02:32] <mymusise> how to deal the problem :
 Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
 Unknown m
[02:33] <mymusise> when i install something
[02:33] <jrib> mymusise: give full input and output in pastebin
[02:33] <Jeremiah_> Anyone know the command to see if dd hdd cloning tool is finished? I can find it on the web
[02:33] <jrib> Jeremiah_: dd returns you to a prompt when it finishes
[02:34] <Jeremiah_> jrib,  so is it normal if it takes over a half hour to copy a 30gb hdd?
[02:34] <owlie> hi, can i get some info about why i can't get X11 Forwarding to work from PuTTY?
[02:34] <jrib> Jeremiah_: probably depends on your options and hardware I guess
[02:35] <owlie> it's just an "Error: Can't open display" when i run anything like xeyes
[02:35] <jrib> owlie: are you running X?
[02:35] <Jeremiah_> jrib,  kinda slow, no?
[02:35] <owlie> i'm connecting from windows.  what do you mean running x?
[02:35] <jrib> owlie: you need to be running an x server on windows if you want to use X11 forwarding
[02:36] <owlie> i am
[02:36] <jrib> owlie: which one?
[02:36] <owlie> xming
[02:36] <mymusise> when i install monodevelop ,it say:
[02:36] <mymusise>  do I go about finding inspecting a document in ubuntu? What I mean is, if I created a file on computer A, how would I look at identifying information about the file on computer B (ubuntu)?
[02:36] <jrib> owlie: did you enable it on the server?
[02:36] <mymusise> /usr/bin/update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
[02:36] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
[02:36] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
[02:36] <mymusise> Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
[02:37] <FloodBot1> mymusise: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:37] <owlie> jrib: yes, ssh_config and sshd_config both have all X11 forwarding options set to 'yes'
[02:37] <jrib> owlie: don't know then, never used windows for X11 forwarding
[02:38] <jrib> owlie: make sure you restarted sshd after changing options in its config
[02:38] <owlie> jrib: alright.  could it be i have my display variable set incorrectly?
[02:39] <jrib> owlie: what is it set to?
[02:39] <bonhoeffer> finally got a live boot from usb -- !
[02:39] <owlie> localhost:0:0 is what I have in putty for x11 forwarding to
[02:39] <jrib> owlie: try just "localhost:0"
[02:40] <daemeon> Hey all. How do I go about finding inspecting a document in ubuntu? What I mean is, if I created a file on computer A, how would I look at identifying information about the file on computer B (ubuntu)?
[02:40] <owlie> jrib: ok.  serverside and clientside?
[02:40] <jrib> owlie: where will you set it serverside?
[02:41] <owlie> through 'set DISPLAY=:0"
[02:41] <jrib> owlie: in...?
[02:42] <boxer> Hey guys. I'm trying to install the latest Ubuntu to a laptop currently running Windows 7. At the boot menu, the laptop won't let me install Ubuntu. When I choose the option, it just refreshes the USB Boot menu
[02:42] <boxer> any tips?
[02:42] <jrib> owlie: anyway, no I don't think you need to set DISPLAY server-side
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> boxer, The booted cd/usb of ubuntu just loops back the first gui with the try or install options?
[02:44] <boxer> wilee-nilee: Yeah, that's correct
[02:44] <owlie> jrib: hmm ok.  what's the default value for DISPLAY though
[02:44] <boxer> wilee-nilee: In fact, any option other than "test memory" and "boot from 1st hard disk" loop back
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> boxer, How did you load the cd/usb and have you done a md5sunm check?
[02:44] <jrib> owlie: set it to "localhost:0" in putty
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> md5sum*
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> ! md5sum | boxer
[02:45] <boxer> wilee-nilee: I used live USB install, and yes, I did do the md5sunm check
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> boxer, Something seems to be wrong with the loading of the usb, there are a bunch of different loaders some for windows, osx, and linux, I would try another.
[02:46] <boxer> wilee-nilee:  Sounds good, I'll try unetbootin
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> That one is popular seems to work often, the only drawback is it boots straight in, without that first gui, I think it can be brought up I don't know how though.
[02:48] <boxer> Right now it's not recognizing my USB drive anyways. Do you know any other loaders off the top of your head?
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> boxer, What is the OS you are doing this in?
[02:49] <boxer> Running off a Windows 7 machine
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> boxer, This is a computer that will boot a usb correct?
[02:49] <boxer> Both the one burning the image and the target computer are running windows 7
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> boxer, If you are getting to that gui on the usb it is be seen.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> being*
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> I would try unetbootin
[02:50] <boxer> right. I'm wondering if there might be some security restrictions
[02:51] <boxer> it IS a company laptop, but they gave me the go-ahead to put Ubuntu on it
[02:52] <vicsar> echo
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> boxer, You might talk with their IT if this continues, to check on security, however I would have thought they would have mentioned this.
[02:52] <boxer> Ditto. I'll check out some other loaders to see if that helps
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> boxer, Windows 8 comes in uefi, I wonder if this W7 is as well.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[02:57] <dunpeal> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu on a desktop, but it won't boot. `sudo fdisk -l` doesn't show the partition where I installed Ubuntu as a Boot partition. Fix?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> dunpeal, Ubuntu does not need a boot flag, check out the bootrepair tool, it has a bootinfo summary you can run before a repair to post if you like.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> !bootrepair
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> ! bootrepair
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> dunpeal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:00] <dunpeal> wilee-nilee, thanks, installing now.
[03:02] <dunpeal> wilee-nilee, it detected "EFI"
[03:19] <rodd> hi, anyone running ubuntu on the new thinkpad x1?
[03:20] <dimend> hello everyone
[03:20] <duckx0r> hi dimend
[03:20]  * dunpeal is so tired
[03:21] <dimend> is someone available for some suggestions?
[03:21] <dunpeal> anyone willing to help me decypher boot-repair output?
[03:21] <TKing> hi guys what does EFI mean in ubuntu?
[03:21] <duckx0r> dimend, don't ask to ask. just ask.
[03:23] <dimend> well, I've been thinking on switching os to ubuntu, but I really dislike unity and I wish I could go for a GNOME 2.x
[03:23] <dimend> I don't know so much about it, but I think a valuable alternative (if I could call it so) it is with a desktop service called MATE
[03:24] <dimend> does someone of you guys know more about it?
[03:25] <rodd> dimend linuxmint got some alternative (one is a gnome fork), give it a try
[03:25] <rodd> cinnamon is great
[03:26] <main> join #849494
[03:26] <dimend> I've also seen one called snowlinux linux
[03:26] <dimend> any advice?
[03:27] <rodd> id go with mint
[03:27] <TKing> hi guys what does EFI mean in ubuntu?
[03:27] <dimend> mint it's a whole OS per se
[03:28] <Ari-Yang> Extensible Firmware Interface?
[03:28] <Ari-Yang> !EFI
[03:28] <rodd> dimend google "install cinnamon/mate on ubuntu"
[03:28] <kostkon_> dimend: if you want an os backed by a company go with ubuntu with e.g. mate otherwise go with mint
[03:29] <dimend> and more.. what's the difference between linuxe distros if at the "skins" (if I could call them so) are equal?
[03:29] <dimend> I mean what's the change between ubuntu and debian for instance?
[03:30] <rodd> dimend are you a windows or mac user
[03:30] <dimend> windows
[03:30] <Ari-Yang> dimend, I recommend you google that question
[03:30] <Ari-Yang> you'll get loads of pages/threads that have answers
[03:30] <cfhowlett> dimend, perhaps a good discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:30] <qin> dimend: small differences, like big mac and royal with cheese...
[03:31] <dimend> mhm.. understand I thought was as "easy" topic that could at least been responded in a nutshell
[03:31] <dimend> mhm.. I understand..
[03:32] <qin> dimend: main differences between distros are: used kernes, inatalling/updating system, interface, default applications, configs.
[03:33] <dimend> all right
[03:33] <qin> and logos
[03:33] <dimend> lol
[03:33] <dimend> what a kernel is?
[03:33] <dimend> is it some sort of language that's machine-OS compatable?
[03:34] <qin> kernel is linux, but you really would want to hook up on wiki for a while
[03:34] <cfhowlett> dimend, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=kernel
[03:35] <sporkboy> okay... so my hard drive got full and I got a bunch of errors. freed up some space and everything was fine... except firefox can't find any servers. tor browser (which /is/ firefox) is fine. purge and reinstall didn't help
[03:35] <dimend> what makes you people choose for ubuntu instead of others OS
[03:35] <dimend> and why ubuntu seems to be so popular among other distros?
[03:35] <cfhowlett> !off-topic|dimend let's keep this channel clear for actual support, yes?
[03:36] <canaima172423> hola
[03:36] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, how did you free space?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> canaima172423, greetings
[03:36] <sendaljepit> !karnel
[03:36] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, deleted the files I'd been downloading to the wrong partition on accident.
[03:37] <dimend> ok!
[03:37] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, hmm.  doesn't explain the server issue.  Anyway... clear space with sudo apt-get autoremove and sudo apt-get clean
[03:37] <kostkon_> sporkboy: start with a fresh ffox profile maybe?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, then run terminal and ping www.google.com
[03:38] <SuperLag> Is there any way to delete something you sent to paste.ubuntu.com?
[03:38] <sporkboy> I did sudo apt-get purge firefox; rm -rf ~/.mozilla; rm -rf .cache/mozilla; sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:38] <Chuibo> Brand new to linux trying to partition my drives have an ssd and hdd. confused at mount points in the installation any help would be much appreciated.
[03:38] <kostkon_> SuperLag: no
[03:38] <SuperLag> lovely *headslap*
[03:39] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, well that should pretty much clear it.  ping nonetheless ... DNS issue?
[03:39] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, and I think it's not my overall connection, since I'm on irc, and tor browser is loading pages.
[03:39] <kostkon_> SuperLag: just don't share thevurl with anyone
[03:39] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, I can connect in my terminal, or apt-get wouldn't have worked.
[03:39] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, could tor be redirecting then?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, apt-get clean doesn't need internet.  those 2 commands clear out old .debs from local machine
[03:40] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, firefox isn't set to go through the proxf
[03:40] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, but apt-get update and apt-get install do.
[03:41] <Chuibo> do i need a mount point for / /home /home /tmp /usr/ /var /srv/opt /usr/local or do i just need a root and maybe put the home on the ssd to save ssd life?
[03:41] <Chuibo> i mean hdd sorry
[03:41] <sporkboy> oddly, I can't ping anything.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, ah, well now ...
[03:41] <sporkboy> that is weird.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, I'd suspect your DNS got nabbed somewhere ...
[03:42] <sporkboy> wtf? I just apt-get installed it, and now apt won't connect.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, you
[03:43] <cfhowlett> you'll hate this but turn off tor and do your stuff
[03:43] <greenhornlinux> quick question about recent updates. I have three computers running 12.04. I use the keyboard shortcuts pretty heavily, windows + number key to jump to my applications. I have recently discovered that if an application gets closed either by a mouse click or alt+f4 my keyboard shortcuts stop responding. Windows + number key or ctrl + alt + arrow key to jump to a different workspace. I can get the keyboard shortcuts to respon
[03:43] <greenhornlinux> d by hitting alt to activate the hud or windows key to bring up the dash. After this, things seem to work normal until I close an application. This happens on all three of my systems. Anyone else have this issue? I am wondering if it was a recent update.
[03:43] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, but it was working before. gonna see if that does the trick, but it was working before.
[03:43] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, fingers crossed.
[03:45] <sporkboy> stopping tor didn't change anything.
[03:47] <cfhowlett> sporkboy, as you can't google! I'd say see your DNS settings.  Sadly, I don't know enough to be more specific.  Ask in channel and provide details
[03:47] <sporkboy> cfhowlett, I'm using 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and can't nslookup google! wth?
[03:48] <sporkboy> but I can open my gmail in tor browser.
[03:51] <Campfire> hi guys
[03:51] <Campfire> and gals
[03:52] <Campfire> can we go over security holes in ubuntu
[03:52] <Campfire> and little term code
[03:53] <IdleOne> Campfire: better to report bugs and security holes on launchpad.net. This is a support channel and not meant for bug reporting, you might try #ubuntu-bugs.
[03:53] <Campfire> i,m a newb asking a guru to to walk me threw some comon commands
[03:53] <IdleOne> Ask a specific question and someone will try to help if they can.
[03:54] <Campfire> ok ty
[03:54] <Campfire> whats the first thing you do to secure your ubuntu instal
[03:54] <cfhowlett> Campfire, a regular desktop user has limited use of such.  once you start doing servers and such, you might want to revisit the issue.  ubuntu is pretty dern secure by default
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Campfire, secure from what?
[03:55] <Campfire> ok
[03:55] <klync> folks, i'm upgrading a laptop running maverick now. after I dist-upgrade, do I keep pointing at the archive and go to natty first? or, how do I get to current?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> ! eol | klync
[03:55] <klync> thx wilee-nilee !
[03:55] <cfhowlett> Campfire, personally, I'd recommend you create a daily use account for ... daily use.  use your administrative account only for system admin type stuff
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> klync, You would be better instaling your final goal fresh, and backing up what you want.
[03:56] <Campfire> ok so don,t run as admin will sudo still work
[03:56] <cfhowlett> klync, torrent the iso you want (12.04 LTS recomended), make a usb/cdrom and clean install.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Campfire, sudo will work within the admin account not the daily, normal desktop user account.
[03:57] <klync>  i just might, wilee-nilee, cfhowlett ... thanks
[03:57] <Campfire> oh i see
[03:58] <Omega11> ubuntu is a peace of shit
[03:58] <Omega11> and u can take your tearms of service annd shove them up your fucking ass
[03:58] <Omega11> lol
[03:58] <cfhowlett> !ops|Omega11,
[03:58] <Campfire> runing as admin will that make it easy for a hacker to get in , i figured if you where in sudo no one esle could be in it
[03:59] <cfhowlett> Campfire, you do NOT want to "run in sudo".  run as an unprivileged user for daily use.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !sudo|Campfire,
[03:59] <Campfire> i see
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> Campfire, Does admin mean root to you or a standard install account?
[04:00] <Campfire> ok i,m learning
[04:00] <Campfire> ty
[04:01] <Campfire> ok whats it called when you make a image of your system in ubuntu so if all fails
[04:01] <Campfire> your bake up
[04:01] <cfhowlett> Campfire, image ... see the dd command
[04:01] <Campfire> !image
[04:02] <kostkon_> !cloning
[04:02] <kostkon_> nah
[04:02] <vicsar> .
[04:03] <cfhowlett> kostkon, better than my suggestion ... thanks
[04:03] <Campfire> nice
[04:04] <Campfire> i here alot of people while surfing are running sandbox type vm,s
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> Campfire, Not in linux sandbox wont run.
[04:05] <Campfire> vertual box i mean
[04:05] <Campfire> bear with spelling
[04:05] <cfhowlett> Campfire, virtualbox ... mostly used for testing
[04:07] <Campfire> hmm wonder what to use as a vm online sesion in ubuntu so can,t mess up your main distro
[04:07] <cfhowlett> Campfire, what's your main distro?
[04:08] <Campfire> ubuntu
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Campfire, then why do you need a vm?
[04:08] <Senjai> Does anyone know the command/keybinding to move across desktops?
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Campfire, meaning what are you hoping to achieve with a vm?
[04:08] <Ladon> I'm new to Ubuntu and looking for a certain functionality.. anybody mind helping me?
[04:09] <Senjai> !ask | Ladon
[04:09] <kostkon_> Senjai: ctrl+alt+left-right arrows?
[04:09] <Senjai> kostkon_: No luck, I guess they are different in KDE
[04:09] <Campfire> run in a vm atmosphere so if catching a virus when you shut the vm down the virus hack is gone is what i,m interested in
[04:09] <Senjai> kostkon_: Thought they'd be the same.
[04:09] <kostkon_> Senjai: oh
[04:09] <Ladon> I currently run a windows server and want to switch to ubuntu.. the only functionality that I haven't been able to replace is comicrack on windows will sync with my tablet/keep track of my libraries. Are there any programs for ubuntu to sort/organize comics and sync them with a tablet?
[04:10] <cfhowlett> Campfire, have some fun ... google "linux + virus" to see how many hits you get ...
[04:10] <cfhowlett> Ladon, yes there are. see the software center for "comics"  or consider loading them in google play or kindle app
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Comic books? ;)
[04:11] <Ladon> yeah but will any of those allow me to read them via SAMBA (or Ubuntu equivalent) without copying all of them over to the SD card?
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Campfire, I appreciate what you're attempting but I think you're overthinking things.  linux viruses are RARE.
[04:11] <Campfire> this hands on typing is how i learn the the best sort of co dependent learning more motivation live to remember
[04:12] <cfhowlett> Ladon, kindle app synchs across platforms so yes
[04:12] <Campfire> ok ty
[04:14] <juniour> hi guys how can i increase or decrease my screen brightness via fn keys shortcut
[04:14] <jaypro> is there another program that runs tcl files besides tclsh?
[04:14] <cfhowlett> juniour, depends on your machine ... no universal key coding
[04:14] <cfhowlett> juniour, for instance, on mine, it's F4 F5
[04:15] <jaypro> juniour yeah mine is fn + F5 or F6
[04:15] <juniour> cfhowlett i have fn key shortcut for brightness but it dosent works, but for sounds it works
[04:15] <Campfire> cf what do you recommend for learning linux inside out like a good web site
[04:16] <qin> !tab | Campfire cfhowlett likes it
[04:16] <cfhowlett> Campfire, "linux from scratch"
[04:17] <jaypro> is there another program that runs tcl files besides tclsh?
[04:17] <juniour> jaypro yes its fn+f5 for decrease and fn+f6 for increase
[04:18] <Dr_willis> jaypro,  perhaps ask in #TCL if it exists..   ive not used tcl in years.
[04:18] <jaypro> thats good, juniour
[04:18] <jaypro> oh thanks Dr_willis... had no idea there was a channel for that
[04:18] <Dr_willis> !alis
[04:19] <Campfire> ubottu ty i booked marked the site
[04:21] <Campfire> cf are you running through a bot on irc i thought you were founders and ops on here
[04:21] <libpenguin> I can't connect and disconnect lan and wifi connections from network drop down menu bar...also i cannot open edit conditions from it and Vpn sub-menus are also not showing up....although i can connect and disconnect from system settings network....same issues with bluetooth ( it all started while I was trying to pair my mobile with laptop - suddenly it hung and all this problem started)....btw all the lan and wifi connections are w
[04:22] <aladdin> ls
[04:22] <Dr_willis> file not found
[04:22] <Dr_willis> ;)
[04:23] <soy_el_pulpo> hi Dr_willis
[04:23] <juniour> jaypro yes its fn+f5 for decrease and fn+f6 for increase
[04:23] <cfhowlett> Campfire, hardly.  like you, I'm merely a desktop user with SLIGHTLY more experience.  I don't code, so this is how I support Ubuntu and learn in the process.
[04:23] <juniour> jaypro and mute shortcutworks but brightness dosen't work
[04:23] <juniour> any help
[04:23] <juniour> ??
[04:24] <Campfire> oh your text is in red for me must be your using my nick before your text i,m learning ty
[04:24] <Dr_willis> !tab
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !alis
[04:25] <Campfire> nice
[04:25] <soy_el_pulpo> !prayer
[04:25] <Campfire> repitition helps to remember
[04:26] <soy_el_pulpo> Amen!
[04:26] <Dr_willis> wash, rinse, repeate.
[04:26] <tones> Dr_willis, what are some of your favorite long term use  linux/computer books?
[04:27] <Campfire> ha
[04:27] <Dr_willis> I buy (or used to) whatever i could find in the bargin bins at the various bookstores on topics i was interested in, rexx, perl, awk, sed, using vi, regular expressions and so forth.
[04:28] <greenhornlinux> I use keyboard shortcuts pretty heavily. Running 12.04. When using unity and I close an application, either mouse click or keyboard (alt+f4), the rest of my keyboard shortcuts stop working. Example, crt+alt+arrow. I can "fix" this by hitting alt to activating the hud, or hitting the super key to activate dash. After this, things return to normal. Anyone else run into this issue? This happens on both of my laptops running 12
[04:28] <greenhornlinux> .04.
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Most of the time it was the Oreially books.. i found the 'one book covers everything' type books rather useless after reading 1 or 2 ofthem.. they were all too general
[04:28] <cfhowlett> I've found the "... for dummies" highly appropriate for my use.  Wait ...
[04:28] <Dr_willis> anything with 'for dummines, or idiots' in the title = avoid
[04:29] <guideX> cfhowlett: I really perfer the sams 21 days books
[04:29] <Dr_willis> they often dont even fully cover the basics.
[04:29] <Campfire> yeah i down loaded alot of oreillys stuff
[04:29] <guideX> like c++ in 21 days :D
[04:29] <guideX> one of my favorite books
[04:30] <Dr_willis> only codeing i need to do - i can do in perl, or python, or rexx  ;)
[04:31] <Campfire> i got that one somewhere  dr.w
[04:31] <guideX> rexx eh?
[04:31] <libpenguin> I can't connect and disconnect lan and wifi connections from network drop down menu bar...also i cannot open edit conditions from it and Vpn sub-menus are also not showing up....although i can connect and disconnect from system settings network....same issues with bluetooth ( it all started while I was trying to pair my mobile with laptop - suddenly it hung and all this problem started)....btw all the lan and wifi connections are w
[04:31] <guideX> I thought I was the only rexx coder left on earth
[04:32] <Dr_willis> Used my amiga for years.. i can still do rexx for a lot of things. ;)
[04:32] <Dr_willis> I miss the rexx 'ports' in  my old amiga apps.
[04:32] <guideX> I keep getting work for rexx for a bank which needs to support their os/2 junk
[04:33] <Campfire> still on win 95
[04:33] <Campfire> ?
[04:33] <Campfire> server 95
[04:34] <guideX> hmm os/2 is something different
[04:34] <Dr_willis> radically differnt. ;)
[04:34] <Campfire> oh my bad
[04:34] <Dr_willis> predates windows 95 by some time i recall.
[04:34] <guideX> os/2 actually has an windows 3.1 shell inside of it
[04:34] <Campfire> dod they run dod on that
[04:35] <Campfire> -d
[04:35] <Campfire> banks run dod i,m guessing
[04:35] <ClientAlive> what is the best way to align partitions across multiple disks? Is there a way to do it that doesn't involve creating partitions on the other disks just as spacers? My problem is, I'll have a raid array but not everything on this systeam can be in a raid array (the uefi system partition for instance). I still want the partitions in the raid array to lign up on the physical platters across all disks though.
[04:35] <guideX> hmm the one i'm dealing with doesn't
[04:36] <guideX> they run like ibm as400 stuff, but this is for their atm software.. it runs some rexx code
[04:36] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, might aslo ask in #ubuntuserver ...
[04:36] <ClientAlive> ok
[04:38] <Recku> hi :)
[04:38] <Campfire> seems like more advanced widows systems make more default vulnerbilities = job security
[04:38] <cfhowlett> Recku, greetings
[04:39] <Recku> I want to ask you about sharing files between connected computers in hotspot (adhoc) network
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Campfire, as in most OS's, the greatest risk factor lies between the keyboard and the display ....
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !details|Recku,
[04:40] <Campfire> yeah firmware can be a prob too
[04:41] <Campfire> ssd technolegy geting better
[04:42] <SangeetKhatri> Hey guys i have a problem my laptop brightness is stuck at low and there is no way to change it after the boot.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> how many ways have you tried to change it?
[04:43] <SangeetKhatri> I have encountered the same problem under many linux OS. What might cause this problem
[04:43] <SangeetKhatri> By using the brightness keys
[04:43] <SangeetKhatri> and going in to the settings
[04:43] <Recku> network is made from ubuntu 10.04 which is broadcasting redirected signal from usb 4g modem to wlan and then to all laptops as there is connection between wlan cards I suppose there would be a easy way to share files using samba but I can't see those files from other computers
[04:43] <Dr_willis> bios/firmware/apci/ quirks in how themakers do the task.
[04:43] <SangeetKhatri> nothing worked apparently
[04:43] <SangeetKhatri> what?? I didn't get it?
[04:43] <Dr_willis> checked askubuntu.com and the forums for issues with that exact make of laptop?
[04:44] <Recku> what I should configure further... I suggest the reason is ad hoc type of broadcasting should I try with infrastructure
[04:44] <Dr_willis> Recku,  see if the 2 pcs can ping each others ip.. and if so. try ssh/scp - that would be the easiest way to transfer files.
[04:45] <Campfire> this is intertaining i have a brightness prob to that i learned to live with till i learn
[04:45] <SangeetKhatri> I have googled it a lot for past few days i got nothing that worked for me so i thought that anyone on the forums must have the solution as i can contact people in realtime
[04:46] <SangeetKhatri> I tried a lot many things but they are not doing anything to reset the brightness.
[04:46] <Clinteger> hi guys and gals
[04:47] <Clinteger> actually, nevermind.
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> SangeetKhatri, Have you confirmed the display works in other OS besides linux?
[04:48] <Clinteger> actually, I was wondering if anyone knows how ubuntu boots on efi macs
[04:48] <cfhowlett> !mac|Clinteger,
[04:48] <libpenguin> 12.10 - I can't connect and disconnect lan and wifi connections from drop down menu bar...also i cannot open edit conditions from it and Vpn sub-menus are also not showing up...although i can connect and disconnect from system settings network....same issues with bluetooth ( it all started while I was trying to pair my mobile with laptop, suddenly it hung and all this problem started)...btw all the lan and wifi connections are work
[04:48] <SangeetKhatri> i haven't confirmed because there is now way i can? I mean i don't have money to buy Windows. Hence i just have a lot many Linux distros iso
[04:49] <Dr_willis> SangeetKhatri,  what ubuntu release are you useing?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> SangeetKhatri, in other words could it be a hardware item in screen setup a dual bulb with one out maybe?
[04:49] <Dr_willis> SangeetKhatri,  the only issue is you cant change brightness?
[04:49] <Clinteger> well cfhowlett my mac isn't in the list. and I would like to install without keeping an os x partition around
[04:49] <Dr_willis> or is it totally blank/black?
[04:49] <Clinteger> and for that matter: ubuntu installs and boots just fine, but I want to know how it does that so I can use the same method to install debian :x
[04:50] <cfhowlett> Clinteger, OK.  sorry, but I have no mac experience.
[04:50] <libpenguin> anyone ?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> Clinteger, There is a #debian channel
[04:50] <SangeetKhatri> I am using Linux Lite which is based on Ubuntu 12.04 , but apparently every Ubuntu distro i have used in the past say "Linux Mint 14" and "Lubuntu 13.04" have at some time showed some similar problems.
[04:50] <Clinteger> wilee-nilee indeed, but if ubuntu does it correctly, why not find out how it's done?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> SangeetKhatri,  id test out the actual ubuntu 13.04 not any unsupported (by this channel) spinoffs.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> SangeetKhatri,  and check askubuntu.com for your exact make/model laptop and see if its been mentioned there.
[04:51] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i'm trying to reinstall grub using the following command: sudo grub-install /dev/sda....but i get the following error: This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!., /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> Clinteger, This channel only helps with ubuntu, ask if you like but ts just not supported is all.
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> it's*
[04:51] <libpenguin> Dr_willis: ?? solution to my lan and wifi problem ??
[04:51] <SangeetKhatri> but this problem also existed when i used "Lubuntu 13.04" Now that is the distro officially supported by Ubuntu, isnt it?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> SangeetKhatri,  the support tools for luubntu may not be as tested.
[04:52] <SangeetKhatri> and i just switched over the linux lite 2 days ago
[04:52] <Dr_willis> and askubuntu.com and other sites will be focuesed on ubuntu
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Ive never heard of  linux lite.. and its not supported here..
[04:52] <SangeetKhatri> Okay guys, thank you for your time i appreciate it. Bye :D
[04:52] <Dr_willis> SangeetKhatri,  its VERY likely that some kernel update/fix may make your system just 'work' but its hard to tell
[04:52] <Campfire> i wonderif the firmware in lappy and the ubuntu conflicting
[04:53] <Campfire> if even possiple
[04:53] <Recku> It seems it can't as the default configuration for hotspot didn't work I make a strict ipv4 config so I can broadcast... the configuration is: on 1-st computer (which broadcasts) Address: 192.168.13.1; mask: 255.255.255.0; on the second (which receives) and any other connected to the network device I configure as follow: address:192.168.13.101; mask: same as above; gateway: 192.168.13.1. and from 2-nd computer I tried to access 1-st with address 192.168.13.1 bu
[04:53] <Recku> t ping didn't made am I doing something wrong?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Recku,  sounds like the 2 are not networked.. or have wrong/bad ip #'s
[04:54] <Recku> I have connection from second computer but can't access the first computer (now I'm typing from second one)
[04:54] <Campfire> my monitor talks to my pc when i adjust from buttons on monitor maybe thats how mine got messed up
[04:55] <Campfire> what do you call drivers for ubuntu
[04:55] <Dr_willis> drivers are normally kernel modules for specific hardware
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> drivers?
[04:55] <Dr_willis> the kernel loads the module as needed
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> !drivers
[04:56] <libpenguin> 12.10 - I can't connect and disconnect lan and wifi connections from drop down menu bar...also i cannot open edit conditions from it and Vpn sub-menus are also not showing up...although i can connect and disconnect from system settings network....same issues with bluetooth ( it all started while I was trying to pair my mobile with laptop, suddenly it hung and all this problem started)...btw all the lan and wifi connections are work
[04:56] <Recku> urh my mistake I've tried with 192.168.13.2 seems I lied sorry
[04:56] <Dr_willis> then theres the other support 'software; that lets you use the actual drvivices
[04:56] <mst3kfan> hitha
[04:56] <Campfire> can you get a kernal tree that tells conflics then kind of like device manager for windows
[04:56] <mst3kfan> got a question
[04:56] <Recku> well I've ping can I use the default ssh manager in nautilus with gui
[04:57] <mst3kfan> ubuntu was giving me an internal error re. vlc-nox
[04:57] <mst3kfan> version 2.0.6
[04:57] <Dr_willis> test with the ssh cli client.. to see if its aworking
[04:57] <mst3kfan> anyone know why or how that's caused?
[04:58] <mst3kfan> ?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> mst3kfan, vlc is a media player
[04:59] <mst3kfan> yeah i know
[04:59] <mst3kfan> it used to give me ubuntu internal errors for some reason
[04:59] <mst3kfan> im using xubuntu
[04:59] <mst3kfan> 13.04
[05:00] <mst3kfan> also had a problem related to line 57 of my sources list file
[05:00] <mst3kfan> but that's resolved now. seems to have stopped with the errors
[05:00] <mst3kfan> wonder if the sources.list file had somethin to do with vlc-nox causing xubuntu errors
[05:00] <SangeetKhatri> Hey guys i am back again, this time booted the computer with a Lubuntu Live CD, and it is showing the similar brightness problem. What could the problem be since it is also giving the similar behavior with "Other OS"
[05:01] <Dr_willis> whats the exact 'brightness problem' ?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> just the fn keys not working? or slider?  I recall there being some cli/command ways to also adjust it.
[05:01] <SangeetKhatri> The problem is that my laptop is booting with "Lowest Possible Brightness" and when booted up completely there is no way of changing it.
[05:02] <Campfire> ty dr willis and cfhow and rest are you helping same time everyday , just asking so i can take a bit of your help in bit by bit
[05:02] <SangeetKhatri> The function keys are showing the the brightness is being changed but infact it is not.
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Campfire, no worries.  have fun, be safe
[05:02] <SangeetKhatri> and i am stuck with the lowest brightness which is pain to for the eyes
[05:03] <Dr_willis> and the exact make laptop is?
[05:03] <SangeetKhatri> Acer Aspire 5738
[05:03] <libpenguin> SangeetKhatri: looks like hardware problem....get it checked
[05:05] <SangeetKhatri> well, let me completely describe the problem. For the most of the times the brightness is fine but sometimes i don't know what happens that the brightness randomly goes down on say "a new laptop boot on a new morning" and then after everytime i boot i am stuck with the same brightness
[05:05] <Br3d> hey I need to really get unity-shopping outta my system. :S I've even purged unity shopping lense but I can't disable amazon ads from popping up without disabling all online content.
[05:05] <SangeetKhatri> i cannot find any settings in my BIOS related to brrightness
[05:05] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/151736/cannot-adjust-brightness-on-acer-aspire-5332
[05:06] <SangeetKhatri> and even in the BIOS the brightness is stuck to minimum
[05:06] <Dr_willis> seems to have a 'fix'
[05:06] <SangeetKhatri> did i mention that i am also having dimmed brightness even in the BIOS which is not a part of the Operating System.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> it may be several models have similer issues
[05:06] <Br3d> dear canonical, why would we even want to search amazon products, everytime we search for something... :S
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Br3d,  turn it off then.. and rant elsewhere.
[05:07] <Br3d> Dr_willis, I can't. that's what this rant is about.
[05:07] <Dr_willis> !adlens
[05:07] <Dr_willis> yes you can.
[05:07] <Br3d> I want to keep my youtube lense enabled. but remove amazon ads.
[05:07] <Recku> when I try 'ssh radkos@192.168.13.1' it stays inactive nothing happen
[05:08] <Recku> and then connection timed out... should I make some changes to host machine which I'm trying access to
[05:08] <Br3d> this is an honesty cry... not a rant... I've been using ubuntu since 5.04 probably... this is a heartbreak, to realize that my system almost feels hijacked at this point by amazon. :S
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Recku,  you did install the ssh server on both machines?
[05:08] <Recku> yes
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Recku,   Just checking. ;)
[05:10] <libpenguin> Ubuntu 12.10 - I cannot connect and disconnect lan and wifi connections from drop down menu bar...also i cannot open Edit Connections and Vpn sub-menus are also not showing up...although i can connect and disconnect from system settings network....same issues with bluetooth ( it all started while I was trying to pair my mobile with laptop, suddenly it hung and all this problem started)...btw all the lan and wifi connections are wor
[05:10] <Br3d> Dr_willis, I've removed purged unity-lens-shopping and the musicstore too.
[05:10] <Br3d> I still get ads.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> I belive you need to log out/back in after doing that.. I dont disable them.. so never really noticed
[05:11] <Br3d> if i turn on allow online content... from settings. which I would like to allow to use other unity lenses.
[05:11] <Br3d> I've tried.
[05:11] <Br3d> logged in logged out. nothing.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> I belive askubuntu.com and the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites also mention how to tweak the lense
[05:11] <Recku> Hm 'ping 192.168.13.1' outputs positive result but 'ssh radkos@192.168.13.1' timed out what am I doing wrong
[05:12] <Recku> response from first command is about 1.4 ms
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Recku,  you do have a radkos user ON the server? same username on bothmachines?
[05:13] <Recku> no its different
[05:13] <Recku> I have radkos on server it's active right now
[05:13] <Dr_willis> you are using the user name that exists on the server? the server you are sshing to may have some log entries in the /var/log/auth* log file or the sshd* log files about what its seeing
[05:14] <Dr_willis> also you can do 'ssh -vvv foo@ip.num.be.r   to see verbose info about what its doing
[05:14] <Recku> on second machine user is loni (my girlfrined name) :D
[05:14] <Dr_willis> -vvv = most verbose output i think
[05:14] <Recku> ok I'll give a try
[05:15] <elisa87> somebody please help me ! I faced initramfs  busybox ubuntu error when booting! And don't know what to do ! I am using a liveCD right now
[05:16] <aum> hi - ubuntu 13 liveCD can't bring up the desktop when running on an HP d530 slimline PC - any suggestions for solving?
[05:16] <juniour> hi i have hd partations its not showing but if, i will do mount it will show
[05:16] <juniour> ???
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> aum, A detailed description of "can't bring up the desktop" would help.
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> what s the path there?
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> is*]
[05:18] <aum> wilee-nilee: compiz crashes unexpectedly, and then all i see is a screen full of the colourful background - no panels or widgets
[05:19] <aum> wilee-nilee: i have linux mint running ok on this box, but would prefer ubuntu with untiy
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> aum, Have you tried a nomodeset boot and if working run a update/upgrade and check for graphic drivers maybe. Is the cd good have you md5summed checked it?
[05:19] <elisa87> fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs-3g for /dev/sda1  (what should I do ?)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  if its a NTFS partition/filesystem.. checkit from windows
[05:20] <aum> wilee-nilee: cd is good - but how do i do a nomodeset boot?
[05:20] <elisa87> Dr_willis: what do you mean?
[05:20] <elisa87> Dr_willis: also fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs-3g for /dev/sda1
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> ! nomodeset | aum
[05:20] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  its checking a NTFS partion from what i can read.. 'ntfs-3g' is whats used to read NTFS filesystems in linux
[05:20] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  its saying it has an error of some kind. so its VERY likely the filesystem is damaged
[05:20] <elisa87> So what's wrong and I should do ? Dr_willis
[05:21] <aum> wilee-nilee: how do i enable this when booting off the liveCD? it doesn't show the GRUB menu
[05:21] <Dr_willis> so use windows to check the NTFS filesystem in question would be what i would do.
[05:21] <aum> wilee-nilee: ignore that - it's on that page you linked :)
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> aum, That link has a boot from cd info portion slightly down the post
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:22] <elisa87> You mean I should boot into my windows 7? Which program I should use? I am not familiar with Win7 programs ? How should I check NTFS? Dr_willis
[05:22] <TheUsD> Is there a good free "photoshop" program for Ubuntu?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  the #windows channel will help you use windows.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> windows might even notice/check it automatically
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> elisa87, Not sure what is up for the w7, but f you have a recovery or install dsc/usb or can bet to the desktop you set up a chkdsk.
[05:23] <elisa87> I am using Ubuntu! This problem has happened to my Ubuntu boot...Are you kidding? Dr_willis
[05:24] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  if the NTFS (the windows filesystem) is Badly damaged. you will want to use the WINDOWS tools to check the WINDOWS filesystem
[05:24] <TheUsD> elisa87: what win7 issue are you having?
[05:24] <elisa87> ah I don';t know ...I never used it till today
[05:24] <cfhowlett> elisa87, time to ask in #windows then
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Linux/Ubuntu will Not want to  access your WINDOWS NTFS damaged partion - because it MIGHT damage it MORE.
[05:25] <TheUsD> elisa87:  <----------- Windows/PC tech here, explain your issue(s)
[05:25] <vicsar> .
[05:25] <elisa87> TheUsD: are you a win tech?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> TheUsD, take it to PM please
[05:25] <TheUsD> elisa87: yes
[05:26] <TheUsD> Is there a good free "photoshop" program for Ubuntu?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> there seems to be some OLD bug  where the fsck.ntfs-3g command does not exist   you could also double check that..  mentioned here --->  http://freshtutorial.com/forum/getting-%93fsck-error-2-while-executing-fsck-ntfs-dev-sdb1%94-error-while-checking-disk-operation-fsck-command-linux-15.html
[05:26] <aum> TheUsD: gimp
[05:26] <cfhowlett> TheUsD, one problem at a time?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !find  fsck.ntfs-3g
[05:27] <TheUsD> cfhowlett: I have no other issue.
[05:27] <vicsar> TheUsD The GIMP rocks I use it almost daily
[05:28] <Dr_willis> !find  fsck.ntfs
[05:28] <Recku> in /var/log/auth.log there is only about cron session info
[05:28] <TheUsD> vicsar: aum: thank you, will check it out.
[05:28] <Ben64> !find ntfsfix
[05:28] <Ben64> there is no fsck for it
[05:28] <Recku> I tried to connect from server to second machine and find output Connection refused
[05:29] <Recku> the ping is made
[05:29] <Recku> it seems something about configuration on second machine should be changed
[05:30] <Ben64> Recku: whats going on?
[05:31] <Recku> well I'm trying to share files between computers in adhoc hotspot network
[05:31] <Recku> but it seems configuring infrastructure network from broadcasting machine will be easier
[05:32] <Recku> :D
[05:32] <Ben64> or use a router...
[05:33] <Recku> I don't have one on that place where I'm temporary living and I like the hardest way :D It's good to learn something new
[05:33] <Recku> and on the other hand with infrastructure I can access the network from android devices
[05:34] <juniour> how plz help how can i ger partations filesystem type
[05:34] <juniour> ???
[05:34] <ineedhelp_> i have a android device im trying to mount by doing  mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9/system
[05:34] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l    or sudo blkid   perhaps juliustemp
[05:34] <Ben64> juniour: ger?
[05:34] <juniour> get
[05:34] <ineedhelp_> but i get mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:34] <juniour> how plz help how can i get partations filesystem type
[05:34] <Dr_willis> oops juniour  ^^
[05:35] <Ben64> ineedhelp_: you should try #android
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ineedhelp_,  old android devices where mounted via the usb stuff. newer ones use that MTP method.. which can be a pain on the older ubutnu releases
[05:35] <juniour> Dr_Willis that at last column its sytem that is same as filesyatem type
[05:35] <juniour> Dr_Willis as i have to add the partation to fstab
[05:35] <Dr_willis> juniour,  im not on a linux box to look at the output. so no idea.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i tend to know what fs my partions are. ;)
[05:36] <ineedhelp_> Ben64: thank you Dr_willis thank you
[05:36] <Dr_willis> ext2/3/4 vfat/ntfs
[05:36] <ineedhelp_> join /android
[05:36] <ineedhelp_> oops
[05:36] <juniour> Dr_Willis ype i need how can i find what typeis it??
[05:37] <Dr_willis> juniour,  fdisk, or blkid command should show you
[05:38] <Dr_willis> juniour,  or try 'auto'
[05:38] <juniour> humm
[05:38] <elisa87> does anyone know what's the fix to this busybox initramfs ? here's the screenshot http://postimg.org/image/wqcqcyqvh/8d29e6e5/
[05:38] <juniour> yep blkid
[05:38] <juniour> did
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !mount
[05:39] <Recku> juniour, fdisk also shows you but in column ID
[05:41] <elisa87> Dr_willis:  (what should I do ? ) sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt---> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[05:43] <Recku> do you already tried to mount it with nautilus or some partition edition program is opened
[05:43] <Recku> if nautilus hangs with mounting it you may kill nautilus
[05:43] <Dr_willis> the ntfs-3g command may be able to unmount it.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> see what 'mount' says about the device/mountpoint
[05:44] <Dr_willis> its ntfs issue night it seems ;)
[05:46] <Dr_willis> sudo umount /dev/sda1      should unmountit.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-manual/
[05:49] <elisa87> can you please look at this and tell me what I should do for busybox error and initramfs prompt http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747307/
[05:49] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  tried seeing if the 'boot-repair' tool can get grub going again?
[05:50] <elisa87> Dr_willis: I tried it but id didn't help! When I rebooted it was the same busybox prompt :|
[05:51] <elisa87> Dr_willis: sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1-->Refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sda1.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  like it said you dont try to 'fix' a fileystem thats mounted read/write/ either unmount it. or remount it read only.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> if you just had wndows scan/fix that filesystem.  it shouldent be having that error.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> unless you are not shutting down windows.. but are hibernate/suspending windws instead..  dont do it that way
[05:54] <elisa87> Dr_willis: I tried this and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747339/ it worked fine should I now mount the /dev/sda1 to /mnt again?
[05:55] <vicsarssssssssss> ñ
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ntfsfix dosebnt really 'do' any fixing..  it sets a flag on the ntfs that notifies windows  to then verify the FS. I think
[05:56] <Dr_willis> ntfsfix is a utility that fixes some common NTFS problems. ntfsfix is NOT a Linux version of chkdsk. It only repairs some fundamental NTFS inconsistencies, resets the NTFS journal file and schedules an NTFS consistency check for the first boot into Windows.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/8/ntfsfix
[05:56] <Dr_willis> so it seems it fixes some  'common' problems. but does not do a full scan.
[05:56] <mst3kfan> got another question re xubuntu
[05:56] <mst3kfan> every so often i no longer am able to connect to the internet
[05:56] <mst3kfan> checking the wireless network list
[05:57] <mst3kfan> shows the first part of my network SSID followed by a mess of garbage characters
[05:57] <mst3kfan> i have to click on my proper ssid to reconnect
[05:58] <mst3kfan> is this a problem with hardware or device
[05:58] <mst3kfan> *software
[05:58] <mst3kfan> that is, drivers
[05:58] <mst3kfan> i have two netgear wn111v2 usb wifi
[05:58] <Dr_willis> wonder if it could be some interfearance with other wireless devices/channels
[05:59] <mst3kfan> i have only the one wifi capable computer powered on atm
[05:59] <mst3kfan> the one i am using now which also has the problem
[05:59] <mst3kfan> and only the one gateway for internet
[06:00] <mst3kfan> it does this even when there are no other computers in the house
[06:00] <mst3kfan> that are turned on
[06:02] <Dr_willis> how many other ssids do you see from the neighbors?
[06:02] <mst3kfan> three
[06:03] <mst3kfan> all are secured
[06:03] <Dr_willis> i got like 30 here. ;)  I had to change my homes default channel to ones that were not overused.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> but ive never seen the SSID get currupted
[06:04] <mst3kfan> ok
[06:06] <monkey> can anyone please tell me how can i delete terminal history permanently? i used history -c but as i close and restart the terminal, ts there again.
[06:08] <vicsar> j
[06:08] <Dr_willis> close all the terminals  and only leave one open monkey  perhaps? any still open will resave the history
[06:08] <Dr_willis> i also recall there being a .history file
[06:09] <Dr_willis> and a way to set where no history ever saved. but ive not ever wanted that. I just recall others in  here doing it befor
[06:17] <chaotix> in ubuntu 13.0
[06:18] <Governador> on?
[06:18] <Governador> i have problem in my ubuntu
[06:19] <Governador> no update system
[06:19] <chaotix> in ubuntu 13.04, has anyone here been able to add their facebook account to online accounts?  i tried the fix here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/295722/cant-connect-facebook-to-online-accounts-in-13-04   and i tried changing the default browser to chromium, firefox, midouri, and epiphany, and still couldnt get it to work
[06:19] <Governador> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747353/
[06:19] <Governador> :(
[06:19] <Governador> no update
[06:20] <Dr_willis> Err http://archive.canonical.com raring Release.gpg
[06:20] <Dr_willis>   Não foi possível conectar em 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Conexão recusada)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> You got some sort of local proxy setup?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> 'connection refused'
[06:21] <Governador> i have equals problem
[06:21] <Governador>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747353/
[06:21] <Ben64> smplayer is much slower at skipping through a video than mplayer, anything i can do to remedy this?
[06:21] <chaotix> no matter what i do, i still get "SECURITY WARNING: Please treat the URL above as you would your password and do not share it with anyone.", but facebook is still not added to online accounts
[06:22] <Dr_willis> I recall smplayer having a lot of settings for things Ben64  could be the time its set to skip ahead is differnt then the mplayer default
[06:22] <Ben64> bah, this is why i prefer command line
[06:22] <Dr_willis> I even recall setting smplayer once ages  ago with some sort of 'macro'  i made. to skip forward 2:30   to skip the anime intro ;P
[06:22] <Governador> my ubuntu no update
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Governador,  your sources.list/ppa listing.. seems  very confused to me.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> since i only read englsh.. imjust guessing what the error says,,,
[06:23] <Dr_willis> W: Falhou ao buscar http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Não foi possível ligar a 127.0.0.1:8080:
[06:24] <Dr_willis> but it looks like its connecting to some Local proxy
[06:24] <Governador> I update, but it is happening several errors. Up to install some program from the terminal gives error
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Governador,   every source/ppa  on your system seems to be failing to connect to 127.0.0.1    so it looks like like you altered your sources.list and other files. and donthave the proxy set right
[06:25] <Dr_willis> theres a way to make the error messages show up in english i belive.. but i cant recall how.
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> here is a source generator to compare if needed  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[06:26] <Governador> never changed anything
[06:26] <Dr_willis> LC_ALL=C    commandtorun-in-english
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Governador,  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list perhaps?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> its defaintaly looks non-standard from the error messages
[06:29] <Governador> DR_willis
[06:29] <Governador> http://pastebin.com/G2Zskf9r
[06:35] <Dr_willis> so translate this to english? it definatly seems to be mentioning some sort of proxy
[06:35] <Dr_willis> W: Falhou ao buscar http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Não foi possível conectar em 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Conexão recusada)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1). - Connect (111: Connection refused)
[06:37] <Governador> Know how I can fix this?
[06:37] <SecretFire> can someone help me mount my phone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747411/
[06:38] <Dr_willis> no idea.  looks to me like you have it set to use some sort of local proxy,  but i could be wrong
[06:38] <Governador> :;
[06:38] <Governador> :/
[06:38] <SecretFire> its an mtp device
[06:38] <theadmin> SecretFire: Is of Android?
[06:38] <SecretFire> yea
[06:39] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1409732.html
[06:39] <SecretFire> i have had it working before
[06:39] <SecretFire> on 12.10
[06:39] <SecretFire> all of a sudden this error
[06:39] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, There is a ppa for an android mount.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> seems to mentionhow the browser proxy settings can affect apt.. some how
[06:39] <SecretFire> hmm
[06:39] <theadmin> SecretFire: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[06:39] <accc> mornin'
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Governador,  so see  the url i just gave.. it seems to show a fix.
[06:39] <theadmin> SecretFire: There are other tools too
[06:40] <SecretFire> im gona check it out
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Im so used to using AIRDROID on my android devices.. :) i dont even want to use MTP/usb cables..
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[06:41] <pippo2> !list
[06:41] <SecretFire> thank you
[06:42] <Dr_willis> be interesting to see if Canocal does anything with their Ubuntu OS and Ubuntu phone OS - to  make them more 'seamless' in doing things..
[06:42] <Dr_willis> would be nifty if i could have my ubuntu phone forward SMS or other info straight to my desktop automatically ;)
[06:42] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Try Airdroid, close enough, lets you send/receive SMS from your browser
[06:43] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  ive been using airdroid for months now. ;)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> be nice to have  Ubuntu actually  do somthing 'more' to  make it stand out.
[06:43] <sarge1221> Quick question but where does ubuntu store the .ttf files at? I am trying to make vlc video player show japanese characters instead of boxes.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> They just dont seem to be having any 'nifty, impressive' features  :P
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I have run the desktop and touch on a nexus 7, needs some work as developments.
[06:43] <drecute> Hi
[06:44] <Dr_willis> sarge1221,  your user can put them in the /home/yourusername/.fonts directory i belive
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !fonts
[06:44] <SecretFire> have you guys heard of the tianhe-2?
[06:44] <theadmin> sarge1221: /usr/share/fonts/truetype, but you can also put them in  ~/.fonts. There's also a bunch of Japanese fonts in the repositories.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  yea. i got a Nexus7 - i just cant justify the time to put Ubuntu on it  - the N7 android stuff does most all i need.
[06:44] <drecute> I'm trying to do an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 but the upgrade got stuck at Configuring libpopt0
[06:44] <theadmin> sarge1221: However, I think Ubuntu comes with Japanese fonts preinstalled. Are you certain it's not an encoding problem with the subtitle file?
[06:44] <sud0_su_sandwich> !fact
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I have grown to really like android as far a an easy backup and lots of apps platform.
[06:45] <theadmin> sarge1221: Has to be UTF-8, or configure your player for appropriate encoding
[06:45] <sarge1221> theadmin, I already installed them. According to the web I need ot either set the local to japanese or I am wondering if i stick the japanese fonts in the fonts folder for vlc if it will stop showing blocks.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  yea. I even have some 'desktop' android devices here.
[06:46] <theadmin> sarge1221: For instance, I often have Russian subtitles in cp1251, but my player reads UTF8 so I do "iconv -f cp1251 -t utf8 -o mysubtitle_fixed.srt mysubtitle.srt"
[06:47] <wilee-nilee> hehe, I have run it partitioned on my laptop as well.
[06:47] <sarge1221> theadmin, oh it isn't sutitles but it is the fiels themselves that have japanese characters in them. they don't show when i use vlc though. :(
[06:47] <sarge1221> the names of them
[06:48] <drecute> I'm trying to do an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 but the upgrade got stuck at Configuring libpopt0
[06:55] <vipzrx> hello
[06:56] <Unwanted_Ghost13> Aaa
[06:56] <vipzrx> when I installed ckermit  ,it issue the warning :penSSL libraries do not match required version:
[06:57] <roniesol> ola pessoal
[06:57] <roniesol> alguem pode me ajudar?
[06:57] <roniesol> so novo por aqui
[06:57] <roniesol> não entedo ainda a interface do programa
[06:59] <Dr_willis> !es
[06:59] <theadmin> sarge1221: Oh... That has to do with Qt, probably.
[06:59] <theadmin> sarge1221: The easiest fix would be to install kde-l10n-ja
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> drecute, Looking on the web I saw one error with conflicts with libpopt0-dev. When I look in my synapse and libpopt0's dependencies I sit it marked as a conflict, not sure of a fix though.
[06:59] <theadmin> sarge1221: May be a bit excessive but will do the thing
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> see*
[07:00] <sarge1221> theadmin, Nice. ironically I just got done purging kde completely out of my ubuntu. ><'
[07:00] <theadmin> sarge1221: VLC is a KDE player :P
[07:00] <drecute> wilee-nilee: I killed the process
[07:00] <drecute> and the upgrade resumed
[07:00] <roniesol> ok vou a procura
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> drecute, Cool. ;)
[07:01] <sarge1221> theadmin, Yeah i was reinstalling apps.
[07:01] <drecute> wilee-nilee: Now I guess I have to reconfigure it once the upgrade finishes
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> drecute, maybe so yeah.
[07:03] <vipzrx>  /df
[07:03] <sarge1221> theadmin, says it is already the newest version
[07:03] <vipzrx> Unknown command.
[07:04] <theadmin> sarge1221: ...durr. Hm. Open Language Support in the Control Centre and see if it complains about "incomplete language support", and if it does tell it to fix it
[07:05] <moondoggy> Does anyone know of a simple way to send & receive encrypted messages with maybe gmail and firefox, or something else that's easily available?
[07:05] <theadmin> moondoggy: See http://webpg.org/
[07:05] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:05] <Dr_willis> PGP perhaps moondoggy
[07:06] <moondoggy> nice, theadmin .  Thanks.
[07:08] <Jeeves_Moss> how can I DD a VMWare server so I can load it on physical hardware?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> I thought there were vdi tools to do that sort of stuff Jeeves_Moss
[07:09] <theadmin> brrf. Where is the firefox.desktop file? I changed the Icon in /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop but the change isn't showing up
[07:09] <roniesol> alguem pode me informar se existe algum canal em portugues, já procurei e não encontro
[07:09] <theadmin> !pt | roniesol
[07:09] <Dr_willis> or use somting like clonezilla in the image.
[07:09] <SecretFire> rhythmbox keeps crashing I get Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:10] <Dr_willis> theadmin,  there may be some icon cache thats its still using perhaps?
[07:10] <theadmin> Dr_willis: Ah there we go, took a while...
[07:10] <Dr_willis> Caches are cachy! ;)
[07:10] <roniesol> alguem poderia me informar um canal em portugues, ja procurei e não encontro
[07:10] <theadmin> roniesol: /join #ubuntu-br
[07:11] <arjuna123> hi guys
[07:11] <roniesol> ok friends
[07:11] <arjuna123> how to run gsettings in chroot??
[07:12] <arjuna123> how to run gsettings in chroot??
[07:12] <arjuna123> how to run gsettings in chroot??
[07:12] <arjuna123> how to run gsettings in chroot??
[07:12] <arjuna123> how to run gsettings in chroot??
[07:12] <FloodBot1> arjuna123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <sarge1221> theadmin, I opened it up and got a message saying it wasn't fully installed.
[07:12] <theadmin> sarge1221: Well, there's a button called "Install" or "Fix" or something
[07:12] <theadmin> sarge1221: Click it
[07:12] <sarge1221> theadmin, probably where i took out kde before though.
[07:12] <sarge1221> theadmin yeah it seems to be working fine now.
[07:13] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:14] <theadmin> sarge1221: Well, tada.
[07:14] <sarge1221> theadmin, no i mean i installed the packs.
[07:14] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone have experience with fail2ban?  I'm getting this error when trying to restart it or send any other command to its init.d script,  "/etc/init.d/fail2ban: unrecognized service"
[07:14] <theadmin> sarge1221: Ah. Well restart VLC and see if it's sane now
[07:14] <sarge1221> theadmin, It might help to mention i'm using a custom vlc skin also. :(
[07:14] <Dr_willis> ShapeShifter499,  whats the exact command you are uysing to restart it?
[07:14] <theadmin> sarge1221: ...eh, I have no idea whether skins can affect something like that.
[07:15] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, sudo service fail2ban restart
[07:15] <Dr_willis> ShapeShifter499,  hmm.. i seem to recall that working for me in the past.
[07:15] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, also "sudo service /etc/init.d/fail2ban restart"
[07:15] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, it worked once
[07:15] <sarge1221> theadmin, before I applied it the blocks still showed though so i wouldn't think it was the problem.
[07:15] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, now it's failing everytime after, even after a reboot
[07:16] <theadmin> sarge1221: Well, okay then. Again, restart VLC and see if it works now
[07:16] <Dr_willis> ShapeShifter499,  weird.  perhaps its logs give a reason why.
[07:16] <sarge1221> theadmin, still showing blocks for filenames.
[07:17] <theadmin> sarge1221: Damn. I never had any problems like that but I'm out of guesses
[07:17] <sarge1221> theadmin, not sure if this is related but i'm on gnome 2 and not unity.
[07:17] <roniesol> encontrei
[07:17] <theadmin> sarge1221: ...Gnome2? There's no such thing anymore, what Ubuntu version are you running?
[07:17] <sarge1221> theadmin, 12.04. i switched to classic mode.
[07:18] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, not sure what to make of it but here it's log http://pastebin.com/CuJNyE2R
[07:18] <theadmin> sarge1221: Err, "classic mode" isn't Gnome2. It's GNOME 3 but with a different look.
[07:18] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, there was an error setting iptables commands
[07:18] <sarge1221> theadmin, ok thanks for correcting me.
[07:19] <sarge1221> theadmin, hmm thats weird i wonder why i couldn't get gnome 3.0 skins to install before then i jsut seem to have a lot of issues with the gui.
[07:19] <Governador> root@vinicius-VPCSE15FB:/etc# chmod 777 resolv.conf
[07:19] <Governador> chmod: alterando permissões de “resolv.conf”: Operação não permitida
[07:19] <Governador> O.o
[07:19] <Governador> i am root
[07:19] <sarge1221> theadmin, shell installs.
[07:20] <theadmin> Governador: You're not supposed to do that... And you're not supposed to use the root account for that matter.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Governador,  why are you even trying to do that?
[07:21] <Governador> I'm trying to change a file, but it will not.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> Governador,  yes.. but WHY are you trying to change that file?
[07:23] <sarge1221> theadmin, Not sure if these problems are related but I seem to have this weird thing with mp4 files not showing thumbnail previews in some windows. Also i can't install shell themes since the area selector thing is greyed out where you are supposed to install them in advanced configuration.
[07:23] <Skellington> Governador, do you need some help in Portuguese? 'Cause I also don't get why change permissions of resolv.conf file.
[07:24] <moondoggy> theadmin, I installed it in Firefox for Ubuntu, but I don't know how to send anything.  Is there a button?
[07:24] <OpenStage7597> what are you trying to send?
[07:24] <Governador> fala portugues?
[07:24] <bazhang> !pt | Governador
[07:25] <Governador> Ninguem responde lá
[07:25] <Skellington> Yes, I do speak Portuguese. But in here we need to speak in Portuguese. ;)
[07:25] <Skellington> Oops.
[07:25] <Skellington> Here we need to speak English only.
[07:25] <Governador> okay
[07:25] <ShapeShifter499> Dr_willis, I'm still pretty noobish at linux, any ideas why fail2ban is not working for me?
[07:26] <ShapeShifter499> :/
[07:27] <ShapeShifter499> weird the restart command is working now
[07:27] <ShapeShifter499> wtf?
[07:27] <theadmin> moondoggy: You need to install the gnupg2 package for it to work, after that go to Tools -> WebPG -> Key Manager and generate an encryption key
[07:27] <theadmin> moondoggy: Then in the options enable integration
[07:29] <moondoggy> Ok, generating...
[07:29] <moondoggy> I didn't know it was in the Tools menu!
[07:31] <moondoggy> theadmin, Ok, now I don't see "integration" in the options for webpg.
[07:35] <moondoggy> Ok, looks like netsplit.
[07:35] <moondoggy> I'll be back later.
[07:38] <Campfire> whats this
[07:39] <Campfire> can i get a radio check ruber ducky
[07:39] <bazhang> !ot | Campfire
[07:40] <Campfire> is now known as Fire
[07:42] <Campfire> how do you let a trusted op remotly fix your ubuntu distro
[07:43] <IdleOne> you don't, you state your problem and you wait for someone to help you do it.
[07:43] <Campfire> ok
[07:44] <Campfire> let me find what distro i have
[07:44] <Campfire> j sec
[07:44] <lazors> Campfire: Open a terminal. "lsb_release -a"
[07:46] <Campfire> ty lazors
[07:46] <Campfire> ok ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[07:49] <auronandace> Campfire: if that is a desktop install then it is no longer supported
[07:50] <Campfire> ok i,m  on ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS i have a error msg ---the panel encountered a problem while loading OAIID:Gnome Brightness Applet
[07:50] <auronandace> Campfire: desktop support has ended for 10.04, use something supported (12.04)
[07:51] <Campfire> this  happens after i sign in and
[07:52] <Campfire> well anyways i,m on a slow pc and i love 10.4 what to do
[07:52] <auronandace> Campfire: if you keep 10.04 we can't support you
[07:52] <auronandace> !lubuntu | Campfire
[07:55] <Campfire> i,m not going to push the issue 10.4 is not supported but can i apt get and reinstall the brightness applet i messed up or deleated or turned off
[07:55] <histo> auronandace: 10.04 isn't eol
[07:56] <auronandace> histo: for the desktop it is
[07:56] <histo> true forgot they were doing that sillyness
[07:57] <Campfire> this might be a great way to learn term
[07:57] <drecute> Is ubuntu 12.04.2 using kernel 3.5.0 for real?
[07:57] <Campfire> for me and fix things i mess up in the future on newer ubuntu distros
[07:57] <histo> !info linux-image-generic precise | drecute
[07:58] <drecute> histo: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.5.0-23.35
[07:59] <histo> drecute: the quantal kernel was backported if you install 12.04.2 from DVD I believe you will be using quantal
[07:59] <histo> drecute: one.
[08:00] <drecute> histo: so if i did a upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04.2 what kernel version is installed?
[08:00] <histo> drecute: on 12.04.3 they will all get the quantal kernel
[08:00] <histo> drecute: you will probably get the -lts-quantal package
[08:01] <drecute> histo: I don't think
[08:01] <drecute> histo: I'm currently seeing this in the upgrade: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-45-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-45-generic
[08:01] <histo> drecute: Is there an issue with 3.5 that you don't want it?
[08:01] <lazors> !info linux-image precise
[08:02] <histo> !info linux-image-lts-quantal precise | lazors
[08:02] <histo> !info linux-image-generic-lts-quantal precise | lazors
[08:02] <histo> drecute: it's optional
[08:02] <wfpkhc> Good evening..
[08:02] <histo> drecute: so if you don't download the DVD you should have the older kernel.  Either way right now you can switch back and forth
[08:03] <drecute> histo: cool
[08:03] <wfpkhc> if i have a piece of hardware that is certified - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200804-264/
[08:03] <code46_static> wfpkhc: its bright and early here in Ghana.. lol
[08:03] <wfpkhc> do i install that version of ubuntu?
[08:04] <Campfire> anyone know if i up grade to lubuntu from 10.4 lucid the packages are adaptable
[08:04] <wfpkhc> Here in Australia it is evening...
[08:04] <drecute> histo: Just a quick one please
[08:04] <drecute> histo: seems my upgrade is stuck at: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-45-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-45-generic
[08:04] <wfpkhc> if i have a piece of hardware that is certified - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200804-264/  do i install that version of ubuntu? or can i just install the latest  LTS 13?
[08:04] <drecute> histo: it doesn't look appropriate for me to kill it. is it?
[08:05] <histo> drecute: how many old kernels do you have installed?
[08:05] <Campfire> i need to do back ups if i,m going to change to lubuntu
[08:05] <histo> drecute: it's trying to update grub to reflect the new kernel right now.
[08:05] <Campfire> not worth spending hours redoing everthing
[08:06] <Campfire> i,ll what till you guys get sorted
[08:06] <histo> Campfire: what do you want to do?
[08:06] <histo> !upgrade | Campfire
[08:06] <drecute> histo: how do I check that? In menu.lst I only have 2.6.38.6
[08:06] <histo> drecute: I wouldn't kill it. Unless it's truely hung
[08:07] <drecute> histo: it's a custom kernel from emperorlinux
[08:07] <histo> drecute: I can't remember if it would make the switch to grub2....
[08:07] <histo> drecute: wth is emperorlinux?
[08:07] <wfpkhc> ....should i restate the question?
[08:07] <drecute> histo: prebuilt linux laptops
[08:08] <Campfire> well being 10.4 lucid is not supported in this chat and lucid is if i,m correct  i want to back up my packages and files bookmarks and speedials
[08:09] <histo> wfpkhc: 13.04 is not lts
[08:09] <wfpkhc> that is not what i asked..
[08:09] <histo> wfpkhc: Yes it was
[08:09] <wfpkhc> 18:04] <wfpkhc> if i have a piece of hardware that is certified - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200804-264/  do i install that version of ubuntu? or can i just install the latest  LTS 13?
[08:09] <drecute> histo: it's been trying to execute that script for more than 20mins now
[08:09] <wfpkhc> is what i said
[08:09] <Campfire> instal lubuntu and add the code and be back up fast
[08:09] <histo> wfpkhc: there is no LTS 13
[08:10] <wfpkhc> i will rephrase the question then grammar nazi
[08:10] <histo> drecute: You are kind of hosed.
[08:10] <histo> wfpkhc: You can install whatever you want
[08:10] <wfpkhc> 18:04]if i have a piece of hardware that is certified - http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/200804-264/  do i install that version of ubuntu? or can i just install the latest  LTS 12?
[08:10] <histo> wfpkhc: Is it going to be server or what are you planning on doing with it?
[08:11] <wfpkhc> server
[08:11] <histo> wfpkhc: I would install the current LTS version 12.04
[08:11] <wfpkhc> even if its not certified?
[08:11] <drecute> histo: Any way out?
[08:11] <wfpkhc> with the hardware?
[08:11] <histo> drecute: I'd try canceling it I guess what other option do you have. Then I'd be backing up my ~ incase you are going to have to reinstall
[08:11] <Campfire> i,m seeing hosed and not supported there is always a way
[08:12] <Campfire> this is linux
[08:12] <histo> wfpkhc: I would ask canonical if you are that concerned about it being certified
[08:12] <histo> Campfire: What?
[08:13] <plv> in Ubuntu 11.04 PDF file with embedded audio is not playing.  For my system (64bit Linux with AMD processor) which pdf readers support embedded audio?
[08:13] <Campfire> any ops here from old school i could wait for
[08:13] <histo> Campfire: What do you want to do?  Is there a reason you won't upgrade?
[08:13] <Campfire> my bad there are no ops
[08:13] <histo> !eol | Campfire
[08:13] <histo> !eol | plv
[08:14] <Campfire> i have a slow pc 10.4 has ran best on this
[08:14] <histo> Why is every eol person in here tonight
[08:14] <histo> Campfire: Your system will be fine on 12.04
[08:14] <histo> Campfire: but it's up to you. Either way if they stopped support for the desktop stuff. I don't doubt it's probably out of the repos for 10.04
[08:15] <Campfire> can i make 12.4 look like 10.4
[08:15] <histo> Campfire: you can run mate   if you want the old "gnome looks"
[08:15] <histo> !notunity | Campfire
[08:16] <Campfire> i tryed the latest and spent a lot of time getting it less gui remember i,m on a slow pc
[08:17] <histo> Campfire: then try lxde, xfce, or mate even running another desktop is your choice.
[08:17] <Campfire> ty for last text starting to make sence
[08:18] <histo> Campfire: lubuntu, xubuntu   are just ubuntu+lxde or xfce  respectively
[08:18] <Campfire> do some kernals run better on different brands of cpuz and sockets
[08:19] <histo> Campfire: not that you will notice
[08:19] <plv> ubottu: if I upgrade to 12.04.2 will it be supported in that?
[08:20] <histo> also you would probably have to describe "runs better"
[08:20] <dade> i have installed ubuntu alongside win7 but it doesn´t run ubuntu it only loads win7 as usual, what should i do?
[08:20] <Campfire> i think i,m on 512 ram
[08:20] <histo> plv: 12.04 is supported for 5 years.
[08:20] <Campfire> whats the term comand to show pc specs
[08:20] <histo> !grub | dade
[08:20] <histo> Campfire: lshw
[08:20] <Campfire> ty
[08:21] <Flynsarmy> is the best way to shut a machine down from the termal to use 'sudo shutdown -h now'? I ask because I've been getting corruptions on my drives which have been repaired on boot according to dmesg and wondering if it's the way i shut down that's causing it
[08:21] <dade> ok i will try that, thnx
[08:22] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: yes thas way is fine. what filesystem you are using? are these network-shares?
[08:22] <plv> histo: yes i Noticed, but i have problem with embedded audio with 11.04
[08:23] <histo> plv: what does that have to do with current releases of ubuntu?
[08:24] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: or maybe you mounted them with some special sync options in /etc/fstab?
[08:24] <Flynsarmy> iceroot: EXT-4. dmesg will occasionally say EXT4-fs (sdk1): recovery complete and sometimes drives won't mount on boot - two in particular. when attempting to mount them I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdi1 missing codepage or helper program, or other error. i fix with fsck and it mounts fine again for a few boots
[08:24] <wfpkhc> histro even if the website does not certify it?
[08:25] <Flynsarmy> iceroot: it could just be a bad drive but smartctl —health is returning fine and that wouldn't explain why a bunch of drives are showing that recovery message every now and then
[08:25] <histo> wfpkhc: Why are you so hung up on if it's certified or not?
[08:25] <uvala> URGENT HELP PLEASE!
[08:25] <wfpkhc> because im learning linux and im new
[08:25] <wfpkhc> and im trying to understand it
[08:25] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: i dont see a reason why a shutdown should "kill" the filesystem on a normal ext4 system
[08:25] <plv> Histo: ubottu told EOL, actually i won't find specific softwares for AMD processor on 64 bit Linux to install Acrobat reader in current version of Ubuntu.
[08:25] <wfpkhc> people keep saying "only use certified hardware"
[08:25] <histo> wfpkhc: Is this going to be a production machine?
[08:26] <wfpkhc> maybe
[08:26] <uvala> I lost my password to my website, and the reset password doesnt come. is there a way to see any clipboard where I can see my password (because I'd copy-pasted it earlier in the same session)
[08:26] <histo> plv: What?
[08:26] <Flynsarmy> iceroot: me neither. however one of the first lines of the fsck said "drive_name was not cleanly unmounted, check forced."
[08:26] <iceroot> plv: why not using another pdf viewer? for installing software on eol releases you have to change the names in /etc/apt/sources.list  old-releases.ubuntu.com or something like that, exaclty name can be found in the link from ubottu which is coming next
[08:26] <iceroot> !eol | plv
[08:27] <elisa87> Hi, I am receiving http://askubuntu.com/questions/159829/what-to-do-if-disk-utility-shows-bad-sectors-pending-in-smart?rq=1 error so I believe buying a new hard drive will fix the problem , right? but I don't know which hard drive should I buy for hp pavilion dv3 ..any guide?
[08:27] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: do you have any warning during the shutdown itself in syslog?
[08:27] <plv> if i install  acrobat reader in 11.04 Ubuntu, does it support embedded audio?
[08:27] <histo> wfpkhc: Well you want to stick with LTS... I have no idea why if it was listed as certified with 10.04 why it would not be listed as such with 12.04. You would have to contact canonical on that one if you are that concerned about it. That being said you should have no problems running 12.04.
[08:27] <uvala> can you help please? is there a clipboard somewhere to see formerly copy-pasted things?
[08:27] <wfpkhc> histo, understood: thank you...
[08:27] <iceroot> plv: i hope pdf-format is not supporting audio but i guess adobe reader will do such silly things
[08:27] <histo> plv: you can't install anything from the repos in 11.04
[08:28] <lazors> plv: The issue is not related to PDF at all. The issue is that your computer's OS is outdated. Upgrade. You might get newer PDF reader version. Also, try and use native pdf reader instead of relaying on Adobe. :)
[08:28] <iceroot> uvala: glipper for example, which can be found in the repositories
[08:28] <iceroot> uvala: using ubuntu software center
[08:28] <wfpkhc> Now - on another machine - that is custom built (no brand name) - is there anything I should know about - before installing?
[08:28] <uvala> iceroot, if I install it now, can I see the copied items before installation?
[08:28] <histo> wfpkhc: is it a efi based machine?
[08:29] <histo> wfpkhc: EFI vs BIOS
[08:29] <wfpkhc> EFI
[08:29] <wfpkhc> EUFI
[08:29] <histo> wfpkhc: Then you need to use 64bit version of ubuntu when installing to get UEFI to work.
[08:29] <histo> !uefi | wfpkhc
[08:30] <wfpkhc> anything else? (i know the difference between 64 and 32)
[08:30] <uvala> iceroot, cant install it, it says requiring installation of unauthorized packs, and asks OK or repair. nothing happens when either is chosen
[08:31] <iceroot> uvala: yes
[08:31] <plv> lazors: yes i will do upgrade for 12.4,02.
[08:31] <iceroot> uvala: could you please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install glipper"
[08:32] <Campfire> ok i got 10.4 runing 1 gig ram 333 mhz p3 ide hdd i wonder how to make faster just with bios and distro
[08:32] <histo> wfpkhc: No not really it's pretty straight forward to install on any computer.  Now if you want to install linux on a toaster then that gets tricky
[08:32] <histo> wfpkhc: you can always boot any of the DVDs/USB installers and test if all your hardware works. They are all live disks
[08:33] <plv> thanks to all : ubottu, histo, iceroot, and lazors.
[08:33] <Campfire> true
[08:33] <histo> Campfire: remove desktop
[08:33] <Campfire> ty
[08:33] <wfpkhc> understood
[08:33] <Flynsarmy> iceroot: hmm. not sure. the /var/log/syslog file is quite long.  nothing is jumping out at me though. just the occasional kernel: [   23.680318] EXT4-fs (sdi1): no journal found
[08:33] <histo> Campfire: No run a smaller desktop environment like xfce or lxde
[08:34] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: did you disable journal for your ext4 system?
[08:34] <Campfire> i,m hearing you
[08:34] <Flynsarmy> iceroot: nah. i think it disappears after i fsck to repair. i've turned it back on once before
[08:34] <iceroot> Flynsarmy: normally people do something "silly" like that when on a ssd
[08:34] <uvala> iceroot, I get no output with the first two, only the terminal line this time starts with >
[08:35] <uvala> and with the terminal starting with >, I cannot sudo
[08:35] <Campfire> yeah there is a bit to know for install on a old ide  drive
[08:35] <iceroot> uvala: you dont get any output when using   cat /etc/issue ?
[08:35] <histo> !lowmemory | Campfire
[08:35] <Campfire> ty
[08:36] <Campfire> i,ll check that out
[08:36] <Campfire> that might go into the format process of ext3 or 4
[08:36] <wfpkhc> if i install ubuntu 12.4 LTS and upgrade - will that upgrade me to 12.10?
[08:37] <iceroot> wfpkhc: yes
[08:37] <wfpkhc> thank you
[08:37] <lazors> Campfire: Openbox probably would be suitable for you. So minimal. No panel. Simple and lightweight (iirc). :)
[08:37] <iceroot> wfpkhc: but not with "sudo apt-get upgrade" if thats what you mean
[08:37] <wfpkhc> no i meant just from the gui
[08:38] <iceroot> wfpkhc: yes, that will bring you to 12.10 (when you disable the option  only upgrade to next lts release) then you will be on 12.10
[08:38] <m0ee> hi
[08:38] <wfpkhc> is it better then to just install 12.10?
[08:38] <wfpkhc> if you are doing a clean install?
[08:38] <oooaaaoooo> Hi guys, how do i execute a bash command onto all files in a directory? Im trying to convert all *.jpg to *.pdf
[08:39] <m0ee> tap on it's back then ask it nicely to change for you >:D
[08:39] <iceroot> wfpkhc: for a clean install you should use directly the version you want
[08:39] <wfpkhc> k thanks
[08:39] <iceroot> wfpkhc: i would recommend 12.04 or 13.04
[08:39] <wfpkhc> but isnt 13.10 a non lts?
[08:39] <Campfire> if you op out of google will it make your browsing faster on ubuntu
[08:39] <iceroot> wfpkhc: 12.04 if you want long term support, 13.04 if you want the latest software
[08:40] <iceroot> wfpkhc: the next lts will be 14.04, the latest lts is 12.04
[08:40] <wfpkhc> so 12.04 for long term support is better - for practicing on
[08:40] <Campfire> i have a need to learn about speeding up ubuntu distros
[08:40] <m0ee> ulimit your procs
[08:40] <m0ee> anyone with experince in patching and compilicing custom kernels?
[08:41] <iceroot> !kernel | m0ee
[08:41] <m0ee> i've been customizing and debugging grsecurity kernel for a month now :(
[08:41] <wfpkhc> ok thank you for your input
[08:42] <histo> Campfire: check out midori web browser
[08:43] <Campfire> ty for your guys info i have enough to study now
[08:43] <histo> oooaaaoooo: why don't you use the rename command
[08:43] <histo> oooaaaoooo: rename
[08:43] <Campfire> what do you like about midori
[08:43] <histo> oooaaaoooo: rename 's/\.jpg/\.pdf/' /some/directory/*
[08:43] <Campfire> the best i mean
[08:44] <histo> Campfire: it's lightweight
[08:45] <Campfire> what search ingine do do you use with it or works best
[08:45] <histo> Campfire: duckduckgo
[08:46] <Campfire> so you like that
[08:46] <histo> yes
[08:46] <Campfire> i can,t stand the seo of google these days
[08:48] <Campfire> i basicly want results when i search on s engine not advertisments
[08:49] <histo> Campfire: https://duckduckgo.com/about
[08:49] <histo> Campfire: and read this http://donttrack.us/
[08:49] <Campfire> oh i checked it out a while back
[08:50] <Campfire> the track thing has to slow down your mobo exp
[08:51] <Campfire> anyone here good whith xchat here
[08:51] <Campfire> and ubuntu
[08:52] <Campfire> i want to make a doc out of my logs
[08:53] <Campfire> just saying good info to sort threw and save the key stuff
[08:56] <Campfire> i was trying to convert some windows users to linux by using that package that makes ubuntu look like xp a while back and did not have time has anyone used that
[08:56] <uvala> iceroot, sorry I was trying to tackle the original problem..no I didn't get any output..but the former problem is solved now, thankfully!
[08:57] <lazors> Campfire: Terrible idea.
[08:57] <lazors> Campfire: You're *making* things worse for them -- and then you're telling them that's linux!
[08:58] <Campfire> cool if we could do it like win 7
[08:59] <Campfire> i know but this is like teaching a old dog new tricks
[09:02] <Campfire> most people that are used to windows starting out will be into a linux pc unless it looks like well
[09:05] <iceroot> Campfire: just tell them "look how win8 is looking" and now decide if you want to learn win8 or GNU/Linux
[09:06] <iceroot> Campfire: there will come the point when people have to use win8 interface, then you can also switch to GNU/Linux
[09:06] <iceroot> Campfire: but its off topic here, we normally do only technical support here
[09:08] <digitalirony_> whats going on
[09:09] <mst3kfan> it's pretty much dead here
[09:11] <Campfire> getting facebook itunes email download folders for new linux users or pc users that are used to windows 7  will be a challenge
[09:11] <Campfire> to make it user friendly
[09:12] <iceroot> !ot | Campfire
[09:12] <Campfire> ok bake to topic
[09:12] <Campfire> or back
[09:13] <Campfire> ice when you did that did you use tab to fill in my name
[09:14] <Campfire> your helping me relearn irc commands pluss well
[09:16] <Campfire> your nick is hard to tab
[09:16] <Campfire> ice
[09:16] <Campfire> ok back to ubuntu
[09:17] <Campfire> ok ubuntu server
[09:17] <Campfire> is ubuntu server like being your own web host
[09:18] <Campfire> say on static ip you could remot into anywhere on earth
[09:19] <Campfire> say host a web site and modify
[09:20] <Campfire> sorry i,m going offtopic again changing room now
[09:20] <Campfire> ty for all your guys help agian
[09:21] <nbubuntu> anyone know aobut openoffice spreadsheet ? how do I display my column A-E only and row 1-14 ? how to hide other row and column ?
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> nbubuntu  #openoffice
[09:23] <diverdude> how do i enable mod_proxy_fcgi on apache on ubuntu?
[09:24] <nbubuntu> MonkeyDust : no one inside at all
[09:24] <bazhang> its #openoffice.org
[09:25] <nbubuntu> bazhang : oh ,  thanks :) how are you lately ?
[09:28] <diverdude> how do i enable mod_proxy_fcgi on apache on ubuntu?
[09:29] <rigo88> hi if i install ubuntu 12.10 server minimal to a usb stick it would be damn slow right?
[09:30] <Kai_p_IE> just a heads up Campfire is about to spam the chan
[09:31] <diverdude> anyone?
[09:31] <vlad_starkov> Question: before `apt-get upgrade mysql-server` should I manually shutdown mysqld?
[09:31] <diverdude> vlad_starkov, no
[09:31] <diverdude> vlad_starkov, not necessary
[09:31] <vlad_starkov> diverdude: the apt app will do it automatically for me?
[09:31] <diverdude> vlad_starkov, indeed
[09:31] <handuel> vlad_starkov: mysqld will be loaded into memory to run, so it doesn't matter if the files get changed
[09:32] <handuel> vlad_starkov: and apt manages services for you anyway
[09:32] <vlad_starkov> diverdude: ok then
[09:32] <vlad_starkov> handuel: thanks!
[09:32] <vlad_starkov> diverdude: thanks!
[09:32] <diverdude> vlad_starkov, yw
[09:35] <diverdude> is libapache2-mod-fastcgi the same as mod_proxy_fcgi ?
[09:39] <diverdude> is libapache2-mod-fastcgi the same as mod_proxy_fcgi ??
[09:39] <sanjay> i have windows 8 system after installing ubuntu 13.04  as dual os. but after installation  in ubuntu 13.04   i cant access other  3 hard disk.. ppls help me
[09:39] <yezhuei> 有人在线么
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:47] <elisa87> http://askubuntu.com/questions/137904/stuck-at-busybox-v1-18-4-ubuntu-11-18-4-2ubuntu2-built-in-shell-ash-enter-h any idea?
[09:52] <sgo11> hi, what is the best screencast program in ubuntu nowadays? I used to using eidete, but it's not installable anymore. thanks.
[09:54] <lazors> sgo11: gtk-recordmydesktop, maybe?
[09:54] <lazors> (or recordmydesktop if you don't need gtk)
[09:55] <sgo11> lazors, I haven't used that program for a long time. is that still under active development? thanks.
[09:59] <sgo11> I found two screencast programs under active development. vokoscreen and kazam.
[10:01] <jeevanus> hai, in my system hibernate and suspend is not working, how to correct it?
[10:02] <lazors> sgo11: I'm a bit slow right now...
[10:02] <lazors> !best | sgo11
[10:02] <lazors> :)
[10:03] <ddda> i would like to install server applications on ubuntu desktop, how do i do that?
[10:03] <leonvv> Is there anyway to get the battery status programmatically ?
[10:05] <sgo11> ddda, just sudo apt-get install <your package>
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> ddda  what do you mean by server applications?
[10:06] <lazors> leonvv: "acpi -V" -- Try that?
[10:06] <ddda> ok i found what i was looking for. (lamp)
[10:06] <lazors> !lamp | ddda
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> ddda  try tasksel
[10:06] <ironfoot495> Hello how do you start-up mysql and apache2 at boot?
[10:07] <ddda> thanks guys
[10:07] <wfpkhc> Hello all - i am back - on my ubuntu machine
[10:07] <yezhuei> what
[10:07] <ironfoot495> on ubuntu 10.04?
[10:08] <wfpkhc> me?
[10:08] <leonvv> lazors: Thanks, will try it
[10:09] <s_faraday1> Hi
[10:09] <lazors> Hi.
[10:09] <wfpkhc> is there any documentation for how to run windows programs on ununtu?
[10:10] <lazors> wfpkhc: What programs?
[10:10] <s_faraday1> I installed gnome 3 and gnome shell by this commands,
[10:10] <wfpkhc> adobe creative suite 5
[10:10] <s_faraday1> ubuntu 13.04
[10:10] <s_faraday1> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[10:10] <s_faraday1> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[10:10] <s_faraday1> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[10:10] <s_faraday1> sudo apt-get update
[10:10] <s_faraday1> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:10] <FloodBot1> s_faraday1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <s_faraday1> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-default-settings
[10:10] <lazors> !appdb | wfpkhc
[10:11] <wfpkhc> thank you
[10:11] <sgo11> lazors, FYI, I just tried kazam. It's very good. I will use it for now.
[10:11] <s_faraday1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747849/
[10:11] <lazors> wfpkhc: You better check that list first. I don't think it's supported. (Too heavy/fat/whatever) but that's a random guess. Check the list first. Also, see !wine (if it's supported).
[10:12] <wfpkhc> :(
[10:12] <wfpkhc> im a web developer - AND MUST HAVE adobe photoshop :(
[10:12] <lazors> wfpkhc: We have gimp. :D
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  ubuntu comes with gnome3, what are you tryig to do?
[10:12] <wfpkhc> .....ferrari - or vdub? is that your point?
[10:13] <wfpkhc> (sorry that was slighly rude - my apologies)
[10:13] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust: changing my desktop
[10:13] <s_faraday1> but when restart laptop, no keyboard or mouse key dosen't work
[10:13] <lazors> wfpkhc: None taken. I was looking up on vdub, never heard of it. :)
[10:13] <s_faraday1> at gnome login screen
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  changing your desktop? you mean the desktop environment?
[10:14] <wfpkhc> vdub = http://www.speedace.info/speedace_images/VW_bus_t1_v_split_screen_wagen.jpg
[10:14] <ironfoot495> Hi lazors: How do I get mysql and Apache2 to start at Boot?
[10:14] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust: yes,changing unity
[10:16] <lazors> ironfoot495: I don't know. I thought apache2 do starts at boot. Not sure about mysql.
[10:16] <ironfoot495> I can't seem to find session options on ubuntu 10.04?
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  change the looks of unity, or use something else?
[10:17] <Ruh> Hello everyone, how are you all?
[10:17] <wfpkhc> can i ask about wine here?
[10:17] <lazors> ironfoot495: 10.04 Desktop or Server?
[10:17] <ironfoot495> Server
[10:17] <ironfoot495> with xubuntu.
[10:18] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust: I wanna use this: http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/
[10:18] <wfpkhc> can i ask about wine here?
[10:18] <lazors> ironfoot495: Desktop is !eol for 10.04, just letting you know.
[10:18] <Ruh> wfpkhc: What would you like to know about Wine?
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  simply type      sudo apt-get install gnome-shell       then logout, change, login
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  first remove the ppa
[10:20] <wfpkhc> Ruh,  on the home page stable is marked as 1.4.1 and development is 1.6 but on the download the install is marked as 1.5 - which one do i use???
[10:20] <ironfoot495> lazors: Well thanks had to try.
[10:20] <s_faraday1> monkeDus: i have a problem now
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  yes, this is the support channel
[10:20] <lazors> ironfoot495: You might want #httpd for your questions.
[10:21] <_dreamer> Hello, I am installing a webserver with apache mysql and php. I ran into some trouble while trying to connect to my mysql server (from a local machine that's not the server). I get the Can't connect to [local] MySQL server error and I do not understand how to fix it even after reading this, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/can-not-connect-to-server.html. Can anyone help me?
[10:21] <wfpkhc> ?
[10:21] <Ruh> wfpkhc: I would just go for Stable 1.4.1, you are more than likely going to have more availible support with it and an easier time.
[10:21] <lazors> wfpkhc: New to linux (right)?
[10:21] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust: any key doesn't work in login screen since i run that command
[10:21] <_dreamer> I have followed the ubuntu server security guide and there might be a problem with the mysql server being blocked by one of the recommended security applications
[10:21] <wfpkhc> sudo apt-get install wine1.5 - so for that command i would use sudo apt-get install wine1.4.1  ?
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  what command?
[10:22] <ironfoot495> ok I'll try it.
[10:22] <evelyette_> beneter, phaedra hi, okay the ubuntu 12.04 installs fine on some other system, so CD has burned fine onto the system ...  this brings me to the previous question: why when booting I get "kernel panic not syncing vfs wn-block" ? hmm ... so it must be hardware or the bios ?
[10:22] <Ruh> You can do that or you can install the package and open it in the software center.
[10:22] <wfpkhc> sadly - yes i am - but i have been using it on and off for 12 years - but just starting to really get into it now - to replace windows 8
[10:22] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5747849/
[10:22] <Ruh> Download the package rather*
[10:23] <NickS> test
[10:23] <wfpkhc> i wish to learn the command line and not be dependant on a gui - thus why im not trying to use apt package
[10:23] <Ruh> I cannot stand Windows 8. They should have just used the Windows 8 system with a nice, simple Windows XP interface.
[10:23] <lazors> wfpkhc: First, aptitude search wine -- and see what turns up -- then you "sudo aptitude install <that-package>"
[10:23] <wfpkhc> test received nicks
[10:23] <Ruh> sudo apt-get install wine
[10:23] <wfpkhc> ruh thank you
[10:23] <wfpkhc> i will try that
[10:23] <Ruh> :)
[10:23] <lazors> !apt | wfpkhc
[10:24] <Ruh> Rather sudo apt-get install wine1.4.1, I believe.
[10:24] <lazors> wfpkhc: If you want the manual, see !manual. :)
[10:24] <wfpkhc> that does not tell me which package it will install
[10:24] <Ruh> sudo apt-get install wine1.4.1
[10:24] <wfpkhc>  <[10:24] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  that's why you have to remove the ppa
[10:24] <wfpkhc> thank you
[10:24] <Ruh> That should be the stable release.
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> s_faraday1  can you do ctrl-alt F1 ?
[10:25] <wfpkhc> lazors,  and ruh thank you to both
[10:25] <wfpkhc> i will try that now
[10:25] <Ruh> You're welcome sir, that's what the open source community is about.
[10:25] <Ruh> Partially..
[10:26] <wfpkhc> sudo apt-get install wine1.4.1   - did not work
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !info wine
[10:26] <wfpkhc> E: Unable to locate package wine1.5.1
[10:26] <wfpkhc> E: Unable to locate package wine1.5.1
[10:26] <_dreamer> Hello, I am installing a webserver with apache mysql and php. I ran into some trouble while trying to connect to my mysql server (from a local machine that's not the server). I get the Can't connect to [local] MySQL server error and I do not understand how to fix it even after reading this, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/can-not-connect-to-server.html. Can anyone help me?
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> _dreamer  #ubuntu-server
[10:27] <Ruh> Perhaps you should try wine-1.4.1
[10:27] <lazors> wfpkhc: Try "sudo aptitude update" -- Not sure if you need it. New installation and all.
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> or wine1.4
[10:27] <sarge1221> Just wondering but could someone explain how to setup apparmor? I'm mostly interesting in if it could be used for added security protocols on wine applications. Thanks to anyone willing to explain it briefly. :)
[10:27] <Ruh> Or 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa4
[10:27] <wfpkhc> i have already done that lazors
[10:27] <somsip> _dreamer: check the bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf allows external connections
[10:27] <wfpkhc> the instructions that i am using sir's is - http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu right at the bottom of the page
[10:27] <_dreamer> thxc
[10:28] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust: yes, i did it
[10:28] <Ruh> # sudo apt-get install wine1.3
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !purge-ppa | s_faraday1
[10:29] <Ruh> Wine sounds depressins. I am suprised so many people are alcoholics.
[10:29] <Ruh> Depressing* *sighs*
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Ruh  it's because windows is depressing
[10:29] <wfpkhc> yes that wanted to work
[10:29] <wfpkhc> sudo apt-get install wine1.4 worked as well
[10:30] <Ruh> Cooleo. I am on Windows right now, only as I'm using dreamweaver and I cannot be bothered installing Wine.
[10:30] <Ruh> Noice. :D
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> dreamweaver is the only windows program i miss in linux
[10:30] <Aussie_matt> hi all, is anyone familiar with mdadm and imsm or isw?
[10:30] <Ruh> Same. I wish adobe would release their applications for Linux.
[10:31] <wfpkhc> well played - im going to see if i can get photoshop to work because that is what is stopping me from moving to linux - i was able to migrate to nginx as my webserver and postgre as my database - im just stuck on photoshop(and games)
[10:32] <sarge1221> MonkeyDust, I got that working before well cs4 in wine. :)
[10:32] <s_faraday1> MonkeyDust:
[10:32] <s_faraday1> i will test it and back again
[10:32] <s_faraday1> thanks
[10:32] <Ruh> I see, so you're a graphics artist/website developer I assume?
[10:32] <sarge1221> Ruh, I have done some web design yes.
[10:32] <wfpkhc> i handle both front end and backend development
[10:32] <lazors> wfpkhc: Lot of people run dualboot (or different hard drives/machines). Also, consoles. :X
[10:32] <Ruh> Noice.
[10:33] <Ruh> I run dual-boot on all my systems.
[10:33] <wfpkhc> ARG no - never dual boot - for that i have special hardware - no need to dual boot it just causes problems
[10:33] <Ruh> Except my netbooks, they have Ubuntu 10.04 installed.
[10:33] <Ruh> I have never had any problems dual booting my system, what problems have you had?
[10:34]  * gordonjcp has never run into problem with dual-boot either
[10:34] <gordonjcp> OSX and Ubuntu co-exist quite happily
[10:34] <wfpkhc> http://2.imimg.com/data2/NJ/ID/MY-4082698785/p1080824-500x500.jpg  - better then dual boot!
[10:34] <Ruh> There's some open-source alternatives to dreamweaver too. Sadly they do not compare to it. They just don't have that live view in which is usefull for checking up.
[10:35] <gordonjcp> dreamweaver sucks
[10:35] <Ruh> I have trio-booted without problems too. Ubuntu 10.04, Windows 7 and Backtrack 5 R3.
[10:35] <gordonjcp> haven't tried Windows
[10:35] <Ruh> WHAT DID YOU SAY!? HOW DARE YOU!
[10:35] <Ruh> : <
[10:35] <wfpkhc> Ruh - there is not a small enough print with the worlds largest toilet roll that i could write out all the problems i have had with linux (including dual booting)
[10:35] <sarge1221> gordonjcp, Have to agree soem nice alternatives on linux distros especially kde builds.
[10:35] <gordonjcp> wfpkhc: you must be doing something wrong, then...
[10:36] <Ruh> Indeed.
[10:36] <wfpkhc> i hate dreamweaver that is such a crap application - if you want a real editor - learn the language and become a programmer not a application reliant nub - use notepad++
[10:36] <wfpkhc> thats what i use on linux anyway
[10:36] <gordonjcp> when I get handed stuff in dreamweaver I take a screenshot of the finished rendered page, scrap all the HTML, and start again from scratch
[10:36] <Ruh> I generally just use gedit.
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  you're a geek :p
[10:36] <gordonjcp> yeah, gedit here too
[10:37] <Ruh> I like to use dreamweaver for live view.
[10:37] <sarge1221> wfpkhc, how i learned it starting out was on windows notepad. xD
[10:37] <Ruh> I can checkup without switching to my browser.
[10:37] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: I could untangle the dreamweaveryness but it's quicker *and therefore costs less* just to go from scratch
[10:38] <gordonjcp> I should really put my own website up
[10:38] <millk788> any plan to drop the unity ?
[10:38] <wfpkhc> my experience with linux goes back to 1998 - and i have tinkered with it - and have been happy with keeping windows up until now - windows 7 is the last of the good operating system - windows 8 is a disaster - and if im going to learn new operating system im going to learn linux - now ive had very little problems with ubuntu - and have not tried dualboot in this version of linux
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> millk788  install someting else, logout, change, login
[10:38] <wfpkhc> but i must make sure before i migrate that i can support myself :D
[10:38] <Ruh> :)
[10:38] <gordonjcp> wfpkhc: there's not a lot to go wrong
[10:38] <wfpkhc> ^------------?
[10:39] <gordonjcp> wfpkhc: what kind of things are you doing with your computer?
[10:39] <sarge1221> wfpkhc, I completely agree windows 8 slave boot is the worse thing ever developed by microsoft in there entire career.
[10:39] <wfpkhc> try wifi on puppy - that was a disaster
[10:39] <g0th> hi
[10:39] <g0th> how do I go back when using aspell?
[10:39] <gordonjcp> wfpkhc: that's drifting very much towards #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:39] <g0th> or undo
[10:39] <g0th> is there a nice gui for using aspell
[10:39] <millk788> i got gnome 3.8 but it has problem
[10:39] <Ruh> There isn't much to go wrong, no. I suppose it just depends on your experiences and knowledge of linux operating systems.
[10:40] <wfpkhc> lol you think that was the worse thing? lets start with "ribbon" in word - then move on top "select no extension" in file explorer - then move onto "remove start button" - these guys are destroying themselves  lol
[10:40] <wfpkhc> sorry gordonjcp
[10:40] <wfpkhc> ill keep it on topic now
[10:40] <Ruh> I heard they're adding the start button in windows blue upda.. *get kicked for off topic* NUUUUUUUU
[10:40] <drecute> I ran an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04.2
[10:41] <drecute> I ran an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04.2. Along the way, some packages failed and I have identified them
[10:41] <wfpkhc> well i have just installed wine - im going to see what i can do with it - thanks heaps again guys
[10:41] <Ruh> You're welcome, sir-mc-sir. XD
[10:42] <sarge1221> anyways, anyone played with apparmor before? Just like to learn it from someone who has played with it before. Like to examine seeing what customizations are available mostly like to make wine installations more stricter with it.
[10:42] <drecute> they are memtest82+, grub-pc, zz-update-grub, friendly-recovery
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> !apparmor | sarge1221
[10:43] <drecute> I tried to run partial recovery, but the packages are still failing. So I'm thinking of doing a kernel upgrade, then rerunning the partial upgrade
[10:43] <histo> drecute: How are you upgrading?
[10:43] <histo> drecute: are you doing sudo do-release-upgrade  ??
[10:43] <Ruh> I must go, my people need me! Adios everyone. :D
[10:43] <drecute> histo: I'm using update-manager
[10:43] <sarge1221> MonkeyDust, I requested a walk through not a link to a source I already have saved in my reference notes. ><'
[10:44] <histo> drecute: ahh...
[10:44] <drecute> histo: I'm on ubuntu desktop
[10:45] <histo> sarge1221: You want someone over irc to walk you through setting it up etc.. for your specific application and needs....
[10:45] <histo> sarge1221: you may be waiting awhile to find the right person to do that.
[10:45] <drecute> histo: what would you suggest?
[10:46] <histo> drecute: Why are the packages failing?
[10:47] <drecute> histo: while installing, they get stuck for a long period of time. So i kill them
[10:47] <mamed> after fresh installation of ubuntu and restricted extras i still cannot watch youtube videos
[10:47] <ufk> hello
[10:47] <histo> mamed: which browser? and is flash installed?
[10:48] <ufk> if i run crontab -e as root, everything i execute there will be executed as root permissions right ?
[10:48] <mamed> firefox. and flash from ubuntu repositories
[10:48] <histo> ufk: right
[10:48] <histo> mamed: go to about:plugins
[10:48] <mamed> you mean addons histo right?
[10:49] <histo> mamed: no in the url bar type about:plugins   and make sure flash is being seen
[10:49] <mamed> shockwave flash
[10:49] <mamed> i see it
[10:50] <mamed> histo, i see shochwave flash . is it ok?
[10:50] <sarge1221> lets start with why i get this> sudo aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox > sudo: aa-enforce: command not found.
[10:50] <Ycarene> I'm trying to install libstk but it wants me to remove some applications that I'd rather not lose.
[10:50] <histo> mamed: yeah what issue are you having with youtube?
[10:51] <mamed> histo, "an error occured . please try again later".
[10:52] <drecute> histo: If I do a kernel upgrade, what's the implication? Do you think the failing packages will now install successfully?
[10:53] <drecute> histo: My current kernel version is 2.6.39.3
[10:54] <mamed> drecute, if you have a toruble with broken packages you must ruhn  apt-get -f install
[10:54] <mamed> also update your packages so that broken packages will be corrected
[10:55] <drecute> mamed: I'm doing an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04.2. So along the way, some packages failed. This is the root of my problem
[10:56] <drecute> mamed: It is a known bug in ubuntu 12.04.2 about memtest86+
[10:56] <mamed> hmm
[10:56] <drecute> mamed: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1162968
[10:56] <mamed> drecute, it is better to make a upgrade from a cd image
[10:56] <drecute> mamed: same goes for grub-pc
[10:56] <mamed> download the cd image and burn it and make a fresh installation it is better
[10:57] <mamed> of course before doing it backup your data
[10:59] <drecute> ahgrr!
[11:06] <jhonny> hi, i have a rtl8188CE wifi adapter and it have aleatory disconnections. I've tested Ubuntu 12.10, Mageia 3, Fedora 18 and opensuse 12.3 which gives me more stability than the others, but still disconnects from time to time
[11:06] <jhonny> is that a bug or something?
[11:08] <wfpkhc> is there anyway for me to see applications?
[11:08] <wfpkhc> without searching?
[11:10] <wfpkhc> ?
[11:10] <wfpkhc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLRLWEfdFqY   what this guy is doing at 4 minutes 50 seconds
[11:10] <gordonjcp> wfpkhc: bring up the Unity dashboard, click the second icon on the left at the bottom and click on "Installed"
[11:11] <tux9th> hiya guys, quick question. Do you think it's normal that X + compiz use 700mb ram?
[11:11] <tux9th> i'm on 13.04
[11:11] <OerHeks> wfpkhc, play with the white icons at the bottom of the dash
[11:11] <wfpkhc> thats irritating
[11:11] <wfpkhc> thank you for advice sir's
[11:11] <kristenbb> How can I install gnome15 on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[11:13] <OerHeks> kristenbb, gnome 15 ?
[11:13] <wfpkhc> is there anyway to see what items are related to a particularly installed application?
[11:13] <kristenbb> OerHeks: yes. http://www.gnome15.org/
[11:13] <wfpkhc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLRLWEfdFqY  at 4 minutes 55 seconds
[11:14] <abdel> hello
[11:14] <abdel> is there any software i can install in ubuntu that i can use to view private pictures in facebook or badoo
[11:14] <Rootbrian> wfpkhc: If you install gdebi, you can. I don't know why ubuntu removed it and synaptic package manager.
[11:15] <wfpkhc> :(
[11:15] <wfpkhc> anyway without installing additional things?
[11:15] <Rootbrian> abdel: no. Privacy settings cannot be changed that way.
[11:15] <wfpkhc> just on default installation?
[11:15] <Rootbrian> wfpkhc: nope, you've got to get both those installed first I believe.
[11:16] <wfpkhc> :( bugger - thank you for that sir
[11:16] <abdel> how do u change it then rootbrian, because with photopuket it woked on windows
[11:16] <abdel> but i dont know which one to use in ubuntu
[11:16] <OerHeks> kristenbb, ah, that is why i did not know gnome 15, it is a 3th party something.  the give install instructions with a PPA >>  ppa:tanktarta/gnome15
[11:16] <Rootbrian> abdel: it relates to facebook's own privacy settings that no piece of software has any control or influence over.
[11:17] <OerHeks> kristenbb, ubuntu has G15 tools too
[11:17] <kristenbb> OerHeks: yes, but it doesn't work with ubuntu 13.04, hence my question.
[11:17] <kristenbb> OerHeks: really ? Where?
[11:18] <abdel> hmmmm, well i was able to hack facebook and badoo pictures via photofucket but i guess ubuntu is not techy yet.......
[11:19] <Rootbrian> abdel: you would just have to add somebody on facebook to get at their pictures I guess.
[11:19] <Rootbrian> abdel: perhaps it's been patched since then? Facebook does have it's facedesk's sometimes.
[11:20] <OerHeks> !info libg15-dev
[11:20] <abdel> dont worry rootbrian, i wanted to change to ubuntu but since it doesn't have this technology i will contiue with my windows 8
[11:21] <Rootbrian> abdel: I suggest dualbooting that and ubuntu. That's what I do anyways with winXP.
[11:21] <Rootbrian> abdel: You can use ubuntu instead and have windows 8 running within virtualbox too, if you prefer.
[11:21] <om26er> he signed out btw :p
[11:22] <Rootbrian> signed out already? Damn. Lol
[11:22] <kristenbb> OerHeks: well in any case I've used gnome15 with 12.04, and I liked it. I'd like to use it with 13.04 now. How to do that ?
[11:23] <wfpkhc> does anyone here use photoshop and gimp?
[11:24] <wfpkhc> i guess not
[11:24] <wfpkhc> thanks anyway im off
[11:25] <Rootbrian> bummer. I use gimp.
[11:28] <OerHeks> kristenbb, i see the wiki is outdated > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Logitech_G15 not sure how you can install those tools
[11:29] <kristenbb> OerHeks: is it possible to download the sources and build it ?
[11:29] <histo> wow waited a whole 32 seconds for an answer
[11:30] <BluesKaj_> Howdy all
[11:31] <Ellixt> hey
[11:35] <s_faraday> MonkeyDust: hi again
[11:35] <s_faraday> MonkeyDust: thanks for helping
[11:37] <s_faraday> MonkeyDust: i removed ppa but my desktop doesn't look like gnome 3 yet
[11:39] <histo> !notunity | s_faraday
[11:41] <kristenbb> Can someone please help me with building a software from source ?
[11:43] <brontosaurusrex> kristenbb, which one?
[11:43] <kristenbb> brontosaurusrex: gnome15
[11:44] <Muelli> O_o what would that be..?
[11:44] <Muelli> anyway, what's the problem, kristenbb
[11:44] <kristenbb> http://www.gnome15.org/
[11:44] <kristenbb> well the problem is that I'm not an expert on this, and the documentation seems outdated, so I don't know what to do.
[11:44] <Muelli> kristenbb: ./configure && make && make install.
[11:44] <kristenbb> there is no configure file
[11:44] <Muelli> then autogen.sh
[11:45] <kristenbb> there isnt such a file either
[11:46] <brontosaurusrex> why do you need to build it? there seems to be an ubuntu version
[11:46] <kristenbb> not for 13.04
[11:47] <brontosaurusrex> and this is not working http://www.gnome15.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=34
[11:47] <brontosaurusrex> ?
[11:47] <Muelli> ah, kristenbb. try autoreconf.
[11:47] <kristenbb> that's what I did
[11:47] <JohnRain> I installed ubuntu through wubi to E:\drive through windows, which is in my C:\ drive. However I didnt get any boot option for Ubuntu, is it installed or not?
[11:47] <kristenbb> up to the ./configure, since there is no such file
[11:48] <kristenbb> muelli there is no autoreconf file either
[11:48] <brontosaurusrex> kristenbb, hold on ..
[11:48] <Muelli> kristenbb: I konw. Execute it
[11:48] <Muelli> kristenbb: or download the release http://www.gnome15.org/downloads/Gnome15/Required/gnome15-0.9.2.tar.gz
[11:49] <kristenbb> Muelli: ok this release contains a configure file, but if I run it,  I get "configure: error: You must also provide the location of your distributions udev rules using --enable-udev=path-to-rules-directory"
[11:49] <reisi> hi there! is anywhere any documentation on what do apparmor audit messages in dmesg actually mean?
[11:50] <Muelli> kristenbb: yeah, there you go.
[11:50] <rushboy> hello I have the following error when configuring a software : http://pastebin.com/wZWTv9KU . Any help on how to solve this in ubuntu ?
[11:50] <minimec> kristenbb: I have an old Logitech z10 here, and thx to you I stumbled on that gnome15,org thing. According to the forum, the packages are outdated. A user named 'russo79' has put together an updated repository for 13.04... I am downloading and installing now for my Logitech z10... ;) http://www.russo79.com/gnome15/download/ubuntu
[11:50] <minimec> kristenbb: Forum thread here... http://gnome15.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=4&id=862&Itemid=7#30168
[11:51] <kristenbb> minimec: I'm sorry I don't understand the content of the thread.
[11:51] <reisi> rushboy: it looks like you need to find whatever package provides "matio"; the error message you see is most likely wrong; the case is really that no MATIO_CFLAGS were returned by pkg-config
[11:52] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: Either way, I would recommend running the Wubi uninstaller and installing Ubuntu in a normal dual boot configuration.
[11:52] <Muelli> rushboy: try to install libmatio-dev
[11:52] <minimec> kristenbb: The forum post is just for information... The other link is more interesting... ;) http://www.russo79.com/gnome15/download/ubuntu
[11:53] <kristenbb> minimec: well how do I know this person is trustworthy ? Since I'm close, I'd rather use the build from sources instead...
[11:53] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: Wubi, now no longer included in new Ubuntu releases, was poorly maintained and had known issues with installing to a partition other than "C:" (and if you are willing to create a new partition, you might as well do a normal install anyway).
[11:53] <histo> rushboy: what package are you trying to install?
[11:53] <minimec> kristenbb: That's ok, if you want to do it that way.
[11:53] <histo> Jordan_U: I though wubi installed a disk image on C
[11:54] <reisi> rushboy: try installing libmatio-dev
[11:54] <reisi> Muelli: sorry, didn't see you already answered it :)
[11:54] <kristenbb> minimec: so what to do if ./configure doesn't work ?
[11:54] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  alright, but the problem is my D: E: F: drives are all shown as a single drive if I try to install it elsewhere than windows
[11:55] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  and I dont want to lose my stuff i those drives, so I am not sure how to do it in a safe way, if I cant install it through windowsd
[11:55] <JohnRain> they're in raid 0
[11:55] <Jordan_U> histo: My comment was specifically about installations to partitions *other than* "C:". (Though Wubi was/is generally poorly maintained and I don't recommend it)
[11:55] <minimec> kristenbb: Install the needed dependencies... ;) You might need the -dev header packages of some dependencies.
[11:56] <reisi> JohnRain: if you have drives in raid0, you better have very up to date backups anyway
[11:56] <kristenbb> minimec: this is all gibberish to me. What am I to do exactly ? The error message is "configure: error: You must also provide the location of your distributions udev rules using --enable-udev=path-to-rules-directory"
[11:57] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: Are these really separate drives or just separate partitions? What do you mean by "my D: E: F: drives are all shown as a single drive"? Where do you see this and what exactly are you seeing?
[11:57] <Muelli> kristenbb: yeah, provide that path!
[11:57] <kristenbb> Muelli: what path ? I don't understand the error message.
[11:58] <reisi> kristenbb: what ever project's ./configure you are trying to run, it requires a patch to udev rules (in my current os, those are /etc/udev/rules.d, yours may be in different path)
[11:58] <Muelli> kristenbb: the error message is clear. You have to call ./configure --enable-udev=path-to-rules-directory. I.e. --enable-udev=/etc/udev/rules.d/ or so
[11:58] <reisi> kristenbb: a patch/a path (typo)
[11:58] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  I have 2 drives in 4 partitions as raid 0. I have an ubuntu usb-stick I tried for use to install, the installation can only recognize C: drive where my windows is, and the rest d: e: f: as one bit partition
[11:58] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: building stuff from source isn't really recommended, if there's a packaged version available
[11:59] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  but if I install it through windows, it recognizes E: drive
[11:59] <minimec> kristenbb: I am sorry. I cannor guide you through that process, if compiling from source is 'gibberish' to you. Basicallly you have to check the dependencies for the software on gnome15.org. Then you need to install the -dev packages for the mentioned software from the ubuntu repository. Normally the error message of ./configure will indicate the missing dependency...
[11:59] <kristenbb> ok so I did ./configure --enable-udev=/etc/udev/rules.d/, now the error message is: configure: error: Requires Python Virtkey Library
[12:00] <rushboy> histo, scilab
[12:00] <Muelli> kristenbb: yep. and so it goes on. Try to find that piece of software, install it, try to configure again. Rinse and repeat.
[12:00] <reisi> kristenbb: if you don't know what udev is, just try googling it. afair it's an infrastucture component for deciding how to react to plugged-in devices (or any devices not found at boot time)
[12:00] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  and I had ubuntu 12.10 before in my e: drive, until its' boot got messed up, and I formated my computer, but I am unable to reinstall it to e:drive, or I have installed it there, but it doesnt show up in boot menu, hence I am unsure if its properly installed
[12:00] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: Please post a screenshot of what you're seeing and pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[12:01] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: Forget Wubi entirely.
[12:01] <histo> rushboy: sudo apt-get install scilab
[12:01] <cfhowlett> JohnRain, wubi is dead ... let it go
[12:01] <kristenbb> I think I understand. So how can I install the Python Virtkey Library ?
[12:01] <rushboy> histo, no i am building from source
[12:02] <rushboy> ./configure gave me that error
[12:02] <reisi> kristenbb: just as you would install anything else on your system; apt-get; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[12:02] <histo> rushboy: sudo apt-get build-dep scilab
[12:02] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  I just did how they told me to install ubuntu through usb-stick
[12:02] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  in ubuntu.com website
[12:02] <kristenbb> reisi: but I mean how to know the package that contains this software?
[12:03] <reisi> kristenbb: i'd first try: apt-cache search virtkey
[12:03] <reisi> kristenbb: or search in your package manager application (if you prefer one)
[12:03] <rushboy> histo, i did that already
[12:03] <kristenbb> There are two, python3-virtkey and python-virtkey, which one do you recommand ?
[12:04] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: Please boot from an Ubunt LiveUSB and create screenshots of what you're seeing in the installer, and also open a terminal, run "sudo parted -l" and post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (and post a link to it here).
[12:04] <histo> rushboy: No idea then ask the scilab people what package you need to fix the configure error
[12:04] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | JohnRain
[12:04] <reisi> kristenbb: well select the one which requires the least amount of dependencies (it's pretty much always a good rule of thumb unless you have some clue which it should be)
[12:04] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  okay brb it's going to take awhile
[12:05] <kristenbb> reisi: ok, how can I know the number of dependencies of a given package?
[12:05] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: I will probably be gone then, but others can likely help you.
[12:05] <minimec> kristenbb: You might have two python versions installed 2.7 and 3.3. You can install both of them...
[12:06] <reisi> kristenbb: i use apt from the command line, so i'll just test it with sudo apt-get install -s <package>
[12:06] <JohnRain> Jordan_U:  well jordan it doesnt recognize other OS, but it lets me install ubuntu to a partition, either sd3 which is c: or sd4 which is everything else
[12:07] <reisi> kristenbb: simulating an install with apt-get will find calculate all the dependencies this package install would require
[12:07] <kristenbb> minimec: I tried python --version, and it returned 2.7. Should I then install python-virtkey ?
[12:07] <minimec> kristenbb: I guess so.
[12:08] <reisi> in at least the current ubuntus, python --version will always be < 3; that's why there are python3 packages which install "python3" executable, which will always --version > 3
[12:08] <rushboy> histo, installing libmatio-dev worked :-)
[12:08] <rushboy> reisi, thanks for the suggestion :-)
[12:08] <kristenbb> reisi: well that's weird, I tried the command you mentioned (sudo apt-get install -s python3-virtkey) but it says it's already installed. Why would ./configure say otherwise ?
[12:08] <Muelli> rushboy: you're welcome
[12:08] <minimec> kristenbb: Try pyth<TAB> once in a terminal. I have both version installed...
[12:08] <Jordan_U> JohnRain: sd3 and sd4 aren't valid device names, and even if it were sda3 and sda4 I would be worried since you said you are using RAID0, presumably fakeRAID, in which case the devices you want would be /dev/mapper/ devices.
[12:09] <kristenbb> minimec: right, I have a few as well.
[12:09] <Muelli> kristenbb: because 'python -c "import virtkey"' failed.
[12:09] <kristenbb> Muelli: what does this mean ?
[12:09] <reisi> kristenbb: that tells us that the application you are installing will only use python 2.x packages (as in packages that start with "python-")
[12:09] <kristenbb> ok so I need to install the other one afterall
[12:10] <Muelli> kristenbb: that means that python cannot import the virtkey library.
[12:10] <kristenbb> thanks
[12:10] <kristenbb> now to the next error: configure: error: Requires PyUSB, python bindings for libusb
[12:10] <Muelli> FWIW: You can run sh -x configure to get more insight into what's going on.
[12:10] <reisi> kristenbb: try solving this one yourself first
[12:11] <kristenbb> reisi: I tried apt-cache search libusb but there are quite  a lot of results, I have no idea which one to pick
[12:11] <reisi> kristenbb: my first instict would be to filter python results like: "apt-cache search libusb | grep python"
[12:12] <kristenbb> reisi: ok only 2 left
[12:12] <reisi> kristenbb: but that does not leave any good candidates, then, i would google "python bindings for libusb"
[12:12] <Muelli> kristenbb: it's really better to get support from the gnome15 community. so that they will know that they have to improve their documentation. Bonus points if you write up what your problems and solutions are so that other can benefit from that later.
[12:12] <kristenbb> python-ftdi and python-usbtc08
[12:12] <reisi> kristenbb: those two left sound wrong to me, but Muelli has a good point there as well
[12:13] <kristenbb> Muelli: I tried getting help from the gnome15 community but got no answer, that's why I came here to get help from you to install it
[12:13] <kristenbb> so maybe libusb++-0.1-4c2 ?
[12:14] <kristenbb> that's the first one recommended that starts with libusb.
[12:14] <reisi> kristenbb: to plus signs hints it's a c++ library
[12:14] <reisi> kristenbb: to/two/
[12:14] <kristenbb> what does that mean?
[12:14] <Muelli> kristenbb: that's annoying :-\ But this isn't a good place either. You see, in the future no one will ever benefit from the knowledge exchanged here.
[12:14] <kristenbb> I will
[12:14] <reisi> kristenbb: you want a python library, not a c++ library (python and c++ are both languages, and have different library requirements, so to speak)
[12:15] <kristenbb> reisi: but you just said that none of them with python seemed good candidates
[12:16] <reisi> kristenbb: then i told you i'd next use google with the phrase
[12:16] <MonkeyDu1t> unity in chroot != good idea
[12:16] <kristenbb> when asked with geek stuff, google almostt answers in geek terms, so it's hard to understand any of it.
[12:16] <reisi> kristenbb: though you might be able to solve this if you learn how to better search with apt-cache; i've never needed to go further than simple keyword search and a grep i already demonstrated; take your pick
[12:17] <citric> Is there a way I can install ubuntu from within windows? I don't want to use a VM I actually want ubuntu on this harddrive I just dont want to reboot to install it :P
[12:18] <kristenbb> I just want to be able to use my keyboard with linux, I'm trying really hard to follow up but I'm a bit lots
[12:18] <reisi> kristenbb: look at the search results for the exact phrase i gave you as an example, especially the top 3
[12:18] <kristenbb> look at all the commands you have to input to just get a keyboard to work, it's pretty incredible
[12:19] <samgabbay> does anyone know how to generate a full list of installed packadges to a text file?
[12:19] <kristenbb> I came here for help, not to be redirected to google
[12:19] <reisi> kristenbb: i've got no idea what kind of keyboard you are trying to use, but i've never encountered one that required python libraries and compiling a project
[12:19] <histo> !clone | samgabbay
[12:19] <kristenbb> reisi: well g15 series
[12:19] <MonkeyDu1t> samgabbay  dpkg -l > list
[12:20] <samgabbay> were is the test file @monkey
[12:20] <histo> MonkeyDu1t: that doesn't work as it will get removed but configured packages still
[12:20] <reisi> kristenbb: well i was trying to teach you the generic way to solve your problems, you know the "give a man a fish vs. teach man how to fish" thing?
[12:20] <citric> SO I am going to assume you can't do a full install from within windows eh?
[12:20] <Muelli> kristenbb: I understand your frustration. But we are not here to hold your hands. Redirecting to google is a bit rude but in this case I deem it appropriate. Your questions are very basic, you see. So you have to find out how to find out stuff yourself.
[12:20] <samgabbay> wereee is the text file
[12:21] <kristenbb> right, really basic, like knowing about python and apt-get and all this stuff. Everyone in this earth knows how to do that.
[12:21] <Muelli> citric: if wubi is not supported anymore, then you could try to run a cygwin like environment and debootstrap an ubuntu from there. But I doubt that that will work.
[12:21] <MonkeyDu1t> samgabbay  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5748169/
[12:21] <Ben64> citric: you have to reboot to use it, why not reboot to install it?
[12:22] <citric> Ben64, cause im having a good IRC conversation and don't want to reboot yet.. lol :P
[12:22] <Muelli> citric: you could probably download an image with an installed ubuntu and bytecopy it right on your harddrive.
[12:22] <merrill> there is also the use virtual machine as a option
[12:23] <Ben64> citric: you can still irc from the livecd as it installs... i think
[12:23] <gordonjcp> you can
[12:23] <gordonjcp> citric: just ssh to your server where you run irssi in tmux ;-)
[12:23] <brontosaurusrex> kristenbb, the bzr seems incomplete, so i'am out of ideas, ask on their forums
[12:23] <citric> Ben64, that is true, didn't think about that :D
[12:24] <kristenbb> brontosaurusrex: I did but received no answer.
[12:24] <kristenbb> brontosaurusrex: but I was able to retrieve a working source code, I'm trying to get it to work now.
[12:24] <merrill> what is the issue kristenbb ?
[12:24] <kristenbb> brontosaurusrex: I'm stuck at the ./configure part, where it asks for a file named libusb
[12:25] <kristenbb> merrill: right now, the issue is getting ./configure to work without errors
[12:25] <kristenbb> merrill: the last error message is configure: error: Requires PyUSB, python bindings for libusb
[12:25] <merrill> do you have synaptic installed
[12:25] <Muelli> kristenbb: When I google for "ubuntu libusb python" it returns a myriad of good looking results. Have you tried searching for that?
[12:25] <yeats> kristenbb: every time it stops because of a missing dependency you have to install the missing dependency, then run ./configure again
[12:26] <Znoosey> apt-get install libusb-dev <-- have you tried that kristenbb?
[12:26] <Znoosey> sometimes libusb on its own wont work
[12:26] <kristenbb> Znoosey: no, I didn't know which package to install
[12:26] <Znoosey> try that one :)
[12:27] <kristenbb> no I still get the same error
[12:27] <kristenbb> how to uninstall it ?
[12:27] <Znoosey> remove instead of install
[12:27] <brontosaurusrex> also apt-get install python-usb
[12:27] <merrill> kristenbb, what application are you attempting to load?
[12:27] <kristenbb> merrill: gnome15
[12:28] <yeats> kristenbb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyusb - note that ppas are technically not supported here
[12:28] <merrill> kristenbb, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:28] <kristenbb> 13.04
[12:28] <merrill> kristenbb, is it updated
[12:28] <yeats> kristenbb: 'sudo apt-get install python-usb'
[12:29]  * yeats found it with 'apt-cache search pyusb'
[12:29] <kristenbb> yeats: yes it works, thank you
[12:29] <b1n4ry> Hi, How  to check what kernel driver is in use for your wireless card?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !wireless
[12:29] <yeats> b1n4ry: 'lsmod' shows all the loaded modules
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> b1n4ry  start from the beginning, what goes wrong
[12:30] <b1n4ry> i tried lspci which lists it
[12:30] <Muelli> b1n4ry: it's bit of a hack, I use lsmod and check for either ath, iwl or realtek or the like.
[12:30] <kristenbb> yeats: now the error is configure: error: Requires RSVG for Python. Should I install python-rsvg ?
[12:30] <reisi> b1n4ry: i'd throw in 'dmesg|grep wlan'
[12:30] <yeats> kristenbb: I would probably do that, yes
[12:30] <b1n4ry> but modinfo gives me that the module does not exist
[12:31] <reisi> kristenbb: on a side note, it sounds really crazy that you'd need gnome15 for a *keyboard*; have you validated that this is really the case?
[12:31] <kristenbb> reisi: well the keyboard and the features that come with it.
[12:32] <kristenbb> reisi: I'm typing with it, so it works as is, but the advanced features don't.
[12:32] <reisi> kristenbb: and why do you think that gnome15 is going to help you with those?
[12:32] <kristenbb> reisi: I've used it before with 12.04
[12:33] <kristenbb> reisi: but it doesn't work with 13.04 anymore
[12:33] <merrill> kristenbb, what is the keyboard you are using?
[12:33] <kristenbb> merrill: logitech g19
[12:33] <reisi> kristenbb: aah yes, i mistook gnome15 for gnome at version 1.5 or something like that; it's really some applet for your keyboard
[12:34] <kristenbb> reisi: yep
[12:34] <kristenbb> yeats: ok, now I get configure: error: Requires Python uinput and libsuinput. Should I install libsuinput-dev?
[12:34] <b1n4ry> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5748193/
[12:35] <b1n4ry> I get this
[12:35] <reisi> kristenbb: honestly no idea, i've never heard of such libraries/programs/packages
[12:36] <Ben64> !broadcom | b1n4ry
[12:36] <reisi> looking at the forum of gnome15 it's overrun by spammers, project has died?
[12:36] <YashpalJadeja> How can I bring back the "Not Enough Disk Space" Error Message. I accidently made the tick mark to not to show it, but now I want to enable it...
[12:37] <reisi> i wonder what kind of crazy application would allow that kind of error message to be hidden in the future
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> YashpalJadeja  try to create a file or folder
[12:37] <azar> Does anyone know, how kernel crypto api support asynchronous algorithm such as RSA?
[12:38] <YashpalJadeja> I can create a file or a folder
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> YashpalJadeja  0 space left, or just not enough?
[12:39] <ispirto> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9yLBhGY7
[12:39] <ispirto> what language is this
[12:39] <YashpalJadeja> not enough space
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> YashpalJadeja  look for a very large file and copy it a few times, until you get the error message
[12:40] <yeats> kristenbb: 'sudo apt-get install python-uinput libsuinput-dev'
[12:41] <reisi> azar: RSA is not asynchronous, it has nothing to do with time (synchronization); perhaps you might find the answers in kernel docs?
[12:41] <reisi> azar: RSA is asymmetric vs. symmetric AES for example
[12:42] <YashpalJadeja> MonkeyDust: ok
[12:42] <azar> reisi: Yes , You are right. I mean Asymmetric
[12:42] <reisi> azar: i found crypto docs at https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/Documentation/crypto
[12:44] <reisi> azar: i
[12:45] <reisi> azar: i've got no further knowledge on the kernel crypto api (not throwing links at you to be a dick) :)
[12:46] <pii3> hi
[12:46] <azar> reisi: Thx for your technical help ;)
[12:46] <reisi> azar: np :)
[12:48] <pii3> can i use ubuntu 13 repo on ubuntu 10?
[12:49] <reisi> pii3: no
[12:49] <nedbat> In the past, i've edited ~/.fonts.conf, but I just installed raring, and there is no file like that.  Has it moved?  Or was I supposed to create it somehow?
[12:49] <pii3> what if i change the kernel ?
[12:50] <cfhowlett> pii3, expect breakages.  why not upgrade?
[12:50] <reisi> pii3: i'm not quite sure what you are trying to do/fix?
[12:50] <pii3> i cannot work with gnome 3 unity and fallback
[12:50] <silicon> hello. Would anyone be adept in reading bootcharts to reduce boot times ?
[12:51] <auronandace> pii3: then use something else: xfce, lxde, kde, enlightenment
[12:51] <cfhowlett> pii3, so install lxde or xfce4 or any of a dozen other desktop environments ...
[12:51] <Walex> nedbat: there is no default for '~/.fonts.conf'
[12:51] <kristenbb> yeats: sudo apt-get install python-uinput libsuinput-dev returns ' python-uinput : Depends: libudev0 (>= 147) but it is not installable
[12:51] <kristenbb> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[12:52] <reisi> pii3: while you are at it, i'd backup everything and do a fresh install of the latest; once you are finished trying out different desktops, do another fresh install (if you for example select kde, try kubuntu) and then get your data back from backups
[12:52] <Walex> nedbat: it is a purely per-account file. Some KDE/GNOME/... settings programs create one for you.
[12:53] <reisi> kristenbb: sounds bad; could you pastebin the whole apt-get command + output?
[12:53] <nedbat> Walex: hmm, my notes say to edit it and add a line, i wonder how I got the file in the first place?  I use gnome
[12:53] <reisi> kristenbb: "pastebin it" as in to use paste.ubuntu.com as is stated in the topic
[12:53] <downinit> im sorry if this is a "newbie" question but is there a program to sync my iphone as well as put music on it. Im currently using 13.04 raring ringtail
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> downinit  try rhythmbox
[12:54] <kristenbb> reisi: yes I know about it but thanks for the info.
[12:54] <auronandace> !iphone | downinit
[12:54] <kristenbb> reisi: here it is: http://pastebin.com/xKBgQUuY
[12:54] <downinit> thank you very much!
[12:55] <reisi> kristenbb: pastebin plain "sudo apt-get install" output as well
[12:55] <pii3> gnome t
[12:55] <pii3> gnome 2 was cool with 2bar on top and functional taskbar at buttom
[12:55] <kristenbb> reisi: how do you mean ? Just apt-get install without anything after 'install ' ?
[12:56] <auronandace> pii3: xfce can be set like that too
[12:56] <reisi> kristenbb: yes; install without any package arguments attempts to finish any unfinished business
[12:56] <kristenbb> reisi: http://pastebin.com/6p08SDhP
[12:57] <silicon> Would anyone know anything about bootcharts
[12:57] <reisi> kristenbb: thats odd.. the above some hinted you to use ppa's, did you add ppa repositories?
[12:57] <kristenbb> reisi: no
[12:57] <nedbat> in gnome, how do I create a ~/.fonts.conf properly?
[12:58] <reisi> silicon: i've never used them, but i think at least phoronix runs often articles about boot speeds and i have seen some charts up there; perhaps you find more information there?
[12:59] <pii3> you mean i install xubuntu ?
[12:59] <brainwash> kristenbb: libudev0 got replaced by libudev1 starting with 13.04, you will have to download libudev0 manually
[12:59] <pii3> and config it like gnome 2??
[12:59] <auronandace> pii3: why not?
[12:59] <RobertFaptop> hey
[12:59] <kristenbb> brainwash: what does that mean ? Where can I download it from ?
[12:59] <silicon> reisi: Thanks. I'll check that out. I have a 70 - 90 second boot time and would like to reduce it!
[12:59] <RobertFaptop> do you people know what a fucking stable release channel means?
[13:00] <pii3> yeah no problem i dont like better to say that i hate unity i prefer to do anything else
[13:00] <pii3> i tried kde but too many bugs and not stable
[13:00] <reisi> silicon: i hear they have at least active forums, if there's no usable article
[13:00] <RobertFaptop> it means not having my network and whole computer fuck up each time i update flash
[13:00] <RobertFaptop> canonical suck my dick \m/ ill see you in hell
[13:00] <chaosmos> pii3: try http://mate-desktop.org/
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !ops|RobertFaptop,
[13:01] <auronandace> chaosmos: not supported here
[13:01] <chaosmos> ok, sorry
[13:01] <RobertFaptop> i swear ubuntu is a plot by microsoft to give open source a bad name
[13:01] <histo> silicon: what is taking so long during boot? use bootchart and find out
[13:01] <RobertFaptop> holy fuck
[13:01] <reisi> pii3: please note that your 10.04 installation is *very* old, every desktop environment has gone leaps forward in the latest distribution
[13:01] <histo> !language | RobertFaptop
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> histo  ignore the kid
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !ops|RobertFaptop, profanity
[13:02] <silicon> histo: I've tried taking a look at the chart.... but I'm not sure how to read it....
[13:02] <histo> silicon: can you paste it to imgbin or something so we can look
[13:02] <pii3> reisi: yes i know i dont have problem with upgrading i have problem with Unity
[13:02] <pii3> anyone here using MATE?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> silicon  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[13:03] <auronandace> pii3: mate is not supported here
[13:03] <silicon> histo: ok
[13:03] <silicon> monkeydust: thanks
[13:03] <silicon> histo: sorry, how does one do that?
[13:04] <brainwash> kristenbb: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libudev0 that's the quantal deb
[13:04] <auronandace> !screenshot | silicon
[13:04] <reisi> brainwash: kristenbb: i'm not sure if it's correct to install an older version of such core library across distributions
[13:05] <auronandace> brainwash: if you are suggesting he use a quantal package on raring then that isn't supported
[13:05] <kristenbb> reisi: so what am I to do ?
[13:06] <reisi> kristenbb: well.. for me it seems like the gnome15 project is dead (look at their forums, full of spam), and their dependencies (not their code) have not been kept up to date with 13.04
[13:06] <reisi> kristenbb: i'd wait around, perhaps the devs of gnome15 realize this and will fix it, release packages etc
[13:06] <kristenbb> reisi: but it worked for 12.04, so it should work with 13.04 too...
[13:07] <auronandace> kristenbb: things change over time (like that dependency you are having trouble with)
[13:07] <reisi> kristenbb: actually there's no logic in that (works in 12.04, should work in 13.04); when the major version upgrades, there's usually something the devs need to fix, given the high speed of progress in the community
[13:07] <kristenbb> it makes no sense not to be retrocompatible
[13:08] <silicon> histo: I think this should work...http://imagebin.org/260799
[13:08] <brainwash> kristenbb: people who did dist-upgrade during beta will have both libs, only fresh installations of Raring are missing the older lib
[13:08] <fendur> using 12.04lts, can't get compiz to start. I checked /usr/share/gnome-sessions/sessions/ config files. the "ubuntu" file is set for compiz, but it seems to fail back to "ubuntu-2d" which calls metacity. I can't figure out why it's failing to start.
[13:08] <fendur> Any ideaS?
[13:08] <brainwash> kristenbb: so it might work
[13:08] <silicon> tell ubottu: http://imagebin.org/260799
[13:09] <kristenbb> brainwash: I installed it from a live cd.
[13:09] <Walex> fendur: usually it is that you don't have accelerated 3D enabled
[13:09] <binyam> hello
[13:09] <fendur> Walex: I believe I do, though. I can play an openGL game (openarena)
[13:09] <fendur> Walex: and opengl is enabled in the compiz config.
[13:10] <binyam> can anyone tell me where i get proxy servers??? my isp keeps filtering me!!
[13:10] <auronandace> !ot | binyam
[13:11] <binyam> thanks
[13:11] <reisi> silicon: can't see anything strange right away, but it really shouldn't be taking that long on your hardware
[13:12] <reisi> i wonder what's check-new-releases doing there that much
[13:12] <silicon> reisi: I agree. I've tried different things suggested in the ubuntu forums befor, but it didn't really help
[13:12] <brainwash> kristenbb: you will have to decide, if you want to install it manually, it might break something, but it actually shouldn't
[13:12] <Walex> fendur: perhaps you don't have some specific 3D accel feature.
[13:12] <reisi> silicon: what kind of disk setup you've got there?
[13:13] <Walex> fendur: anyhow, look at the Xorg server logs and at the session log in your home dir
[13:13] <fendur> Walex: can you advise how to compare what I have to what I need?
[13:13] <fendur> Walex: ok thanks.
[13:13] <kristenbb> brainwash: is it just required for the installation process ? Like, I can remove it afterwards ?
[13:13] <Walex> fendur: no, I don't use GNOME. More of a Kubuntu user.
[13:13] <Walex> fendur: also I disable all the fancy GUI effects...
[13:13] <silicon> reisi: I'm rather new to computer things... what does that mean ?
[13:13] <fendur> Walex: kubuntu can't use compiz?
[13:14] <reisi> silicon: is your computer a laptop or a workstation?
[13:14] <Walex> fendur: I use KDE...
[13:14] <brainwash> kristenbb: the package your are trying to install depends on libudev0, so you won't be able to remove it afterwards
[13:14] <silicon> reisi: it's a 2007 macbook
[13:14] <Walex> fendur: KDE can use 'compiz' as a window manager, but it has its own default.
[13:14] <fendur> Walex: I suppose I didn't know compiz was gnome specific
[13:14] <fendur> Walex: anyway. thanks.
[13:15] <Walex> fendur: IIRC GNOME 3 does special stuff that is not quite the same as 'compiz', but again, not familiar.
[13:15] <reisi> silicon: i think all the hardware in such old macbook should be very supported; with this little information, i'd check if the hard disk was about to fail
[13:15] <problematic_guy> upon login to an admin account today, I got the message "Stopping anac(h)ronistic cron" "Stopping save kernel messages" "Starting anac(h)ristic cron"
[13:15] <problematic_guy> then with two line breaks
[13:15] <problematic_guy> "Stopping anac(h)rostic cron"
[13:15] <problematic_guy> any idea what the problem is?
[13:15] <problematic_guy> it return to login screen after that
[13:15] <kristenbb> brainwash: you mean it's the software that requires it, rather than the building process ?
[13:15] <silicon> reisi: In other words maybe the laptop will just die soon?
[13:15] <problematic_guy> This was on 12.04 x64.
[13:15] <reisi> problematic_guy: i wonder if you had some updates installed?
[13:16] <problematic_guy> no, but does anyone know how to disable startx via terminal in a guest acct?
[13:16] <reisi> silicon: well, if it were my laptop i'd investigate that out, sadly it's nothing trivial or easy to do
[13:16] <problematic_guy> (the guest acct is working perfectly fine at the moment)
[13:17] <reisi> silicon: given the age and the life expectancy of laptop hard disks, i'd start taking backups often
[13:17] <problematic_guy> (yesterday, I typed 'startx' into terminal, and, well...)
[13:17] <silicon> silicon: Well, thanks for the advice.... I mean it seems to run well the rest of the time....
[13:17] <brainwash> kristenbb: to not harm your system try to install it using a live cd or a 2nd (test) installation of ubuntu
[13:18] <kristenbb> brainwash: that's getting a bit too complicated just to get a keyboard working...
[13:18] <problematic_guy> argh, I'm going to reboot and see if that could fix it-
[13:19] <reisi> kristenbb: too bad the gnome15 project has not (at least yet) added support for 13.04, they might, eventually
[13:19] <brainwash> kristenbb: then contact the maintainer of the project
[13:19] <kristenbb> brainwash: I tried that.
[13:20] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: looking at the pages for the gnome15 project, it all looks a bit like it's unmaintained - the forum is spammy and it looks like the code hasn't been updated in a while
[13:20] <reisi> kristenbb: however if you really want to make the most of your keyboard, you can always fix it yourself but that might take a lot of learning i'm afraid
[13:20] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: looks like you have a new project
[13:20] <gordonjcp> kristenbb: get it working yourself.  Congratulations, you're now an open-source developer ;-)
[13:22] <algerino> hi
[13:22] <Janeks991> hi everyone
[13:22] <reisi> silicon: if you want to pursue checking if your disk is about to die, smartctl is an utility to read self diagnostic data off the disk (they are rather "intelligent" or self monitoring nowdays)
[13:23] <reisi> silicon: the net is full of user guides and articles and whatnot, but i'd first backup everything important on the laptop
[13:23] <difficult_person> Ok, now - does anyone know what startx's process name is
[13:23] <difficult_person> ?
[13:23] <algerino> d4rk0wl hi
[13:23] <silicon> reisi: I'll look into that smartctl.
[13:24] <reisi> difficult_person: afaik startx is a bash script (or at least has been before), so it should show up on any process listing
[13:24] <difficult_person> uh, is it safe to kill sh?
[13:24] <gordonjcp> wait wait what?
[13:24] <gordonjcp> why are you using startx?
[13:25] <reisi> difficult_person: though in the modern distributions i think it's very rare that anyone would start X like using that script
[13:25] <difficult_person> 'cause I followed some stupid instructions :<
[13:25] <DrFoo> ps -ef | grep startx
[13:25] <DrFoo> (for linux)
[13:25] <difficult_person> Specifically, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Supportstorm/sandbox
[13:25] <difficult_person> hm
[13:25] <gordonjcp> startx is dead
[13:25] <gordonjcp> we don't do it that way any more, not for about ten years
[13:25] <zeroxia> The shell script "startx" calls `xinit' ultimately.
[13:25] <gordonjcp> yup
[13:25] <difficult_person> "117       2720  2664  0 09:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto startx"
[13:26] <gordonjcp> you ought to be able to run something like xinit -e xterm
[13:26] <reisi> difficult_person: startx will not persist over a reboot, if you were wondering that
[13:26] <difficult_person> Weird.
[13:26] <difficult_person> I still can't login to my admin acct.
[13:27] <DrFoo> How do i do a rewrite then a proxy-pass with nginx?
[13:27] <difficult_person> Lemme reboot (again), and I'll see
[13:32] <dakotawulfy> can some one help me not sure what i am doing wrong cant get the shared dir to work on a computer works fin from other one using samba
[13:33] <compdoc> you cant access a samba share form on epc, but you can from another?
[13:33] <Sangeet> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and i like it but the problem is that i have by mistrake just mounted the "/" and i have not mounted the "/home" "/tmp" and "swap" . So since i have already installed the whole Operating System is there any way to mount the points.
[13:33] <Sangeet> There is around 250GB Unmounted free space
[13:34] <dakotawulfy> compdoc well i was trying to run the dir with vlc  has songs in it
[13:34] <dakotawulfy> says permission denied
[13:34] <dakotawulfy> compdoc i can pull up the dir in nautilus
[13:35] <Sangeet> Anyone knows how to change mount points after the Ubuntu Installation
[13:35] <compdoc> dont know anything about vlc. can it provide credentials?
[13:35] <dakotawulfy> compdoc works from the other computer fine
[13:35] <paskotyy> hi i want te setup some settings of the terminal of my ubuntu server (which is only terminal) where can i find the settings?
[13:36] <dakotawulfy> compdoc the other way  so think i have something wrong
[13:37] <compdoc> dakotawulfy, the PC that doesnt connect, what is the username that is logged in? does that user exist on the samba PC?
[13:38] <zykotick9> paskotyy: what settings are you looking for?
[13:38] <chipotle> hi, i want to set up a dlna compatible file server. should i use ubuntu or freeNAS?
[13:38] <chipotle> the latter seems rather limited, but it has zfs...
[13:38] <dakotawulfy> compdoc: no it connects  i pulled it up in nautilus had to have password for that to work   right
[13:39] <dakotawulfy> compdoc then when i try to open it up with vlc it does not work
[13:39] <compdoc> for me, its easier to create a user with the same name and password on the PC connecting, and on the PC sharig
[13:41] <dakotawulfy> compdoc well I have 4 computers with different users
[13:42] <dakotawulfy> compdoc:I got it working on the other computer  works fine not sure why the other on does not work
[13:44] <difficult_person> I've just used Ctrl-Alt-F1 to login into my main admin account, but returning to -F7, I still can't log in - still giving me the starting/stopping anarc(h)ostidsfdsgdsgdfg thing...any help?
[13:45] <Guest14779> Hi, I have a big issue. Every time I start torrent when downloading Ubuntu, the HTTP protocol is completly denied while the download process is continue. The Internet connection is still on all the time. What the heck is this?
[13:45]  * difficult_person pokes
[13:45] <Guest14779> I am using latest Ubuntu with updates.
[13:46] <difficult_person> just set auto-logon
[13:50] <phoenix> hi all
[13:50] <Guest40339> это русский канал?
[13:50] <DJones> !ru | Guest40339
[13:52] <oblivian> Is there a way to start VNC server and allow for connections from console?
[13:52] <nedbat> in gnome, how do I create a ~/.fonts.conf properly?
[13:55] <reisi> nedbat: still no ideas? how did you get an error on that in the first place?
[13:56] <stillcantlogin> still encountering the same problems and becoming increasing frustrated. Also, note that I'm doing hard restarts.
[13:56] <nedbat> reisi: I have no error.  I have notes about how I have configured ubuntu in the past, and it says, "edit ~/.fonts.conf, and add a line blah blah..."  Maybe my notes are crap... :)
[13:57] <Guest14779> Hi, I have a big issue. Every time I start torrent when downloading Ubuntu, the HTTP protocol is completly denied while the download process is continue. The Internet connection is still on all the time. What the heck is this?
[13:57] <reisi> stillcantlogin: i don't think that restarts help, you are not using windows you know? :)
[13:57] <stillcantlogin> :(
[13:58] <citric> ok, just installed ubuntu 13.04 on my system, I am trying to dual boot windows 8, for some reason I don't get a GRUB option when starting it boots right into ubuntu, how can I fix this?
[13:58] <reisi> nedbat: well fonts.conf include things like font hinting and antialising settings, i don't think that the step you are reffering is needed any more; you can find font configuration in ubuntu/kubuntu/*ubuntu settings
[13:58] <OerHeks> stillcantlogin, what happens when you try ? return to login again ?
[13:58] <nedbat> reisi: this is so that it will find fonts from my guest OS, I'm using virtualbox.
[13:59] <reisi> nedbat: then asking on "how to use host fonts in guest os (virtualbox)" might be better
[14:00] <nedbat> reisi: you are right.  But it isn't a virtualbox issue.  I have an ubuntu file path to the fonts, I just need to get the font config set up to use them.  How can I amend the font config to use a pile of fonts I have in the file system?
[14:01] <reisi> nedbat: thats even better question, hopefully someone will now help you
[14:01] <ridders24> Hi, can anyone tell me about sg_io ioctl
[14:02] <reisi> nedbat: i've never done anything related to what you describe, but please note that fonts.conf has a manual page ('man fonts.conf' in shell) that might help you before someone has time to answer
[14:02] <TKing> please i how do i remove ubuntu? due ot UEFI settings i cant seem to go to BIOS and i want to remove it and install windows
[14:03] <reisi> ridders24: it'd be easier if you asked what you want to know, or else googling "sg_io ioctl" or "sg_io syscall" might get you the information you need
[14:03] <cfhowlett> TKing, install windows, format the drive.  ubuntu no more ....
[14:03] <ufk> why does apache sometimes returns error code created 201 ?
[14:04] <reisi> ufk: 201 is not an error code, it's a successful status code (codes between 200 (inclusive) and 300 (exclusive) are considered successful)
[14:04] <reisi> ufk: it means that a resource was created (what ever you were most likely POST:ing to the server or your application running on that server)
[14:04] <ridders24> reisi: im doing research into hardware write blocker validation, and its been suggested, using sg_io ioctl to send read / write commands to a drive to test the validation, however im not sure how to use sg_io ioctl
[14:05] <skuft> testing
[14:05] <ufk> why sometimes 201... it's confusing.. i can't understand what it means.. and my requests fail..
[14:05] <ufk> i googled.. i stackoverflowed.. and i still can't resolved the issue
[14:06] <reisi> ridders24: ok i've heard of hardware write blockers; they should block (or drop) any disk write commands on physical level? i guess the hint you received was for issuing raw commands to the device and see if they change anything
[14:06] <ridders24> reisi: correct
[14:07] <reisi> ufk: perhaps the program that fails on 201 request is the problem? sending out 201 responses is most likely correct (in the spirit of http 1.1 rfc)
[14:07] <ridders24> reisi: the current method does not identify which of the commands the blocker might be missing, hence the recommendation for sg_io ioctl
[14:08] <reisi> ridders24: ioctl is the kernel api to issue commands to devices; i cannot help you more than to refer the man page: ioctl
[14:08] <ufk> why 201 ? after reading the RFC i still can't understand what it means
[14:09] <reisi> ridders24: if you dont want to dive deep into c coding (which i assume you are not familiar with) there might be python binding or something similar allowing you to implement validation in python
[14:10] <paskotyy> how to scroll the output in a terminal? when i use the up down arrows it shows the last commands
[14:10] <ufk> is there a way to force apache not to send 201 ?
[14:10] <reisi> ufk: 201 Created follows a POST/PUT request that is basically asking create or update this resource (described by the uri); apache is most likely being told by an application running on it to send a 201 response
[14:11] <reisi> ufk: what application are you running on your apache (assuming httpd server)?
[14:11] <ufk> yeah
[14:11] <ufk> php server
[14:11] <ridders24> reisi: ok thanks for the help
[14:12] <reisi> ufk: and what php application you have running on the "php server" (which is just apache asking php to produce the response)?
[14:12] <ufk> i'm just producing and xml and displaying it in the body
[14:12] <citric> So I have no Grub or anything to select windows 8 or ubuntu, how do I go about fixing this issue?
[14:12] <luigi_> ciao a tutti
[14:12] <souliaq> When I select "only delete packages which are no longer available" in GUI Synaptic, this apply also for "apt-get" command?
[14:12] <TKing> cfhowlett am trying to do the format but cant boot to cd i have done bios and changed boot order
[14:12] <reisi> ufk: i think that you have a bug in your php code; please see #php for php support
[14:13] <ufk> ok.... so it's not something in apache..
[14:13] <ufk> something in my php code is generating a header of 201 ?
[14:13] <reisi> ufk: most definetly not
[14:13] <reisi> ufk: yes
[14:13] <ufk> omg!
[14:15] <ufk> you've been most helpful!!
[14:15] <Arctic_Stray> \leave
[14:15] <reisi> ufk: np
[14:21] <TKing> PLEASE how can i format my drive.. ubuntu is not letting me boot from cd or usb i want to remove it and its let letting me boot to BIOS
[14:21] <bitnumus> hi can someone tell me if this codec is installed from restricted?    x-msvideo
[14:23] <BluesKaj> bitnumus, don't see it any repos
[14:23] <BluesKaj> in
[14:23] <Janus4> TKing: what exactly is your problem?
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there a way to switch Ubuntu !flavors using a !live image, but without destroying my /home folder? (I want to install it onto the same partition.) I've heard of a way to do it; I just forgot what is was.
[14:23] <CalimeroTeknik> Janus4, it's that he thinks ubuntu disables the bios
[14:24] <Janus4> alright :)
[14:24] <bity> hello
[14:24] <bity> can someone help me with some basic iptables
[14:26] <zykotick9> bity: i'd try using alis to find an iptables channel, if i where you.  see "/msg ubottu alis" for details how it works.  good luck.
[14:26] <TKing> Janus4, i have ubuntu on my pc using UEFI configuration in bios and also removed all OS to have it installed an now i can not boot to bios i want to remove UBUNTU
[14:26] <Guest14779> Hi, I have a big issue. Every time I start torrent when downloading Ubuntu, the HTTP protocol is completly denied while the download process is continue. The Internet connection is still on all the time. What the heck is this?
[14:27] <CalimeroTeknik> bity, look at tutorials or people doing almost what you want (since you say "basic")
[14:27] <CalimeroTeknik> hint: search engines
[14:27] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica, do you mean install a different OS to / ? without changing anything on /home , if so yes , just don't format the /.home partition and use the /home mountpoint when installing
[14:27] <bity> i've tried but im not sure whats its call
[14:27] <bity> i have 2 nic's
[14:27] <bitnumus> BluesKaj, whats it from ?
[14:27] <garrick_> fuck you\]
[14:27] <bitnumus> VLC player is just scrambled
[14:27] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: assuming /home is on a separate partition...
[14:27] <bity> eth0 / eth1 , i want to port forward over eth0->eth1 but to a specific ip on eth1's network
[14:28] <TKing> Janus4, but also when ubuntu loads i can see System setup, from there i can access the Bios, when i get to bios i changed boot  order to cd first and when it reboots it doesnt boot from cd and bios reset back to how i haven't set it
[14:28] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: But /home has to be on a separate partition for that to work...?
[14:28] <bity> is that bridging
[14:28] <BluesKaj> it doesn't appear in any repos , bitnumus
[14:28] <bitnumus> so i cant play it period ?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica, yes
[14:28] <chipotle> hi, i want to set up a dlna compatible file server. should i use ubuntu or freeNAS?
[14:28] <chipotle> the latter seems rather limited, but it has zfs...
[14:29] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: I was afraid of that. Oh well. I was thinking of using the "Reinstall" option on a Live image of a different flavor of Ubuntu...
[14:29] <garrick_> yo chipotle
[14:30] <chipotle> sup garrick_ ?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica, well when you do make / and /home as separate partitions
[14:30] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: OK
[14:31] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica, it makes things a lot easier when testing different OSs
[14:32] <garrick_> anyone play sift heads
[14:32] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: Has point, will travel.
[14:33] <Jordan_U> SonikkuAmerica: BluesKaj: Ubuntu's installer allows re-installing preserving /home/, even when /home/ isn't on a separate partition.
[14:33] <chipotle> garrick_: sorry i got dc'ed
[14:33] <chipotle> what's up?
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Jordan_U: I thought so.
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Jordan_U: It also tries to "preserve apps wherever possible," right?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, how so ?
[14:34] <garrick_> not much
[14:35] <Jordan_U> SonikkuAmerica: No. It does nothing to preserve applications, you have to re-install any apps (though if their preferences are in /home/ then they will of course still be there when you re-install them).
[14:35] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj: What do you mean by "how so"?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, of course I've never seen that since I always use separate partitions for / and /home , since i use manual partitioning
[14:36] <Snake2k> SonikkuAmerica, /home doesn't usually keep your apps.. /home folder has your stuff.. like your configurations and settings etc..
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Jordan_U: OK. So if, say, I wanted to replace Ubuntu with Xubuntu, it would, e.g., replace Nautilus with Thunar, gedit with Leafpad, etc.
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Snake2k: Right.
[14:36] <Jordan_U> SonikkuAmerica: Correct.
[14:36] <TKing> Janus4 yes,delete ubuntu and install windows 7
[14:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Jordan_U: OK. Much clearer now. Thanks!
[14:39] <garrick_> B)
[14:39] <jpequod> what's up guy
[14:39] <garrick_> fuck you to
[14:39]  * BluesKaj still thinks using separate / and /home partitions is a cleaner method for future changes
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hey watch the laguage , garrick_
[14:41] <jpequod> lol
[14:42] <garrick_>  you all are mother fuckers
[14:43] <BluesKaj> very productive
[14:44] <TKing> Janus4 its windows 7
[14:44] <garrick_> im sorry
[14:45] <TKing> Janus4 original
[14:45] <Walex> BluesKaj: I like to do that too. Also because I backup by copying linearly entire partitions.
[14:46] <TKing> Janus4 it doesnt say anything its just boots to windows
[14:46] <TKing> sorry to ubuntu
[14:46] <garrick_> i'm back
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Walex, yeah In used ddo to copy /home to another drive , then installed kubuntu to / on it
[14:47] <BluesKaj> er dd
[14:47] <Walex> BluesKaj: indeed great minds think alike :-)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Walex, let's not go any further with that thought :)
[14:48] <TKing> Janus4 this is what i see in my BIOS https://www.dropbox.com/s/ll4tcggob1tbu6i/6.jpg boot setup, i think if i can remove ubuntu listed there it whould work
[14:49] <TKing> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ll4tcggob1tbu6i/6.jpg how can i remove ubuntu from here and cos resetting to default BIOS didn't fix it
[14:50] <BluesKaj> !efi | TKing
[14:50] <garrick_> tkking want to talk
[14:51] <mojtaba> Hi, Is ubuntu 13.10 released?
[14:52] <kirankumar> sir, it is possible any package through we can install and use a .exe or .dll  file in ubuntu
[14:52] <DJones> mojtaba: October 2013
[14:52] <TKing> BluesKaj, i want to remove Ubuntu not install it, because i remove windows 8 and installed Ubuntu perfectly, but now i dont need it back till i restore pc to default as i bought it. Then i will reinstall ubuntu
[14:52] <mojtaba> DJones: Thanks
[14:52] <DJones> mojtaba: 13 is the year, 10 is the month
[14:54] <kirankumar> please info how to install a .exe  file in  ubuntu
[14:54] <DJones> !wine | kirankumar Although wine can be used to install a windows exe file, it may not be fully reliable,
[14:56] <RylaiC> !virtualizers
[14:57] <kirankumar> sir  DJones: I want to use Visual Studio 2010 for wen devloping .it reliable
[14:57] <DJones> kirankumar: I couldn't say, I don't use wine myself, you could check the winehq database in ubottu's info, or maybe better to join ##winehq and ask there
[14:59] <kirankumar> thanks DJones sir
[15:00] <kirankumar> please give response who have use wine  it reliable
[15:01] <paskotyy> hallo i am using ubuntu as a guest in a virtualbox and have problems scrolling the output in the terminal pageup and shift pageup does not work - what might be reason?
[15:04] <histo> paskotyy: wrong keyboard selection?
[15:07] <paskotyy> histo: what you mean ? what migth be wrong
[15:08] <Mitchell92> Hi all... having trouble staying connected to a specific router, notably a Comcat In-Home WiFi device... Using the RT2800PCI driver
[15:08] <histo> paskotyy: check /etc/default/keyboard
[15:08] <Mitchell92> This was not an issue a year ago.
[15:10] <niargh> What's the best way to know which software version you're about to install before you issue the apt-get install command?
[15:11] <paskotyy> histo: XKBMODEL="pc105" XKBLAYOUT="pl" XKBVARIANT="" XKBOPTIONS=""
[15:11] <bipul> I Need to know that, How can we perform Video streaming with VLC in between Server client. while we are using Ubuntu 12.04 as a server.
[15:12] <epsilonorion_> just reinstalled ubuntu on my laptop.  I have a ssd with windows and a second harddrive that I installed the root and home partiitions for ubuntu.  It is setup to boot from ssd.  Every boot I get "fsck from util-linux 2.20.1" on the root and home partitions, though each time it comes back clean
[15:12] <epsilonorion_> is there something I am doing wrong in the settings
[15:12] <epsilonorion_> It seems like home and root are not being unmounted correctly, but I am not sure how to fix it
[15:13] <histo> bipul: /join #videolan  or #vlc
[15:14] <gundas> Hi all. I have a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 and when ever I do a sudo apt-get update I get a "E: Sub-process returned an error code" - is there a way to fix this
[15:14] <gundas> ?
[15:14] <niargh> Is there something like an "apt-get inspect" command I can run to see what's going to be downloaded/installed?
[15:14] <epsilonorion_> any help would be appreciated.  It is slowing everything down on boot horribly
[15:15] <histo> epsilonorion_: do you have /forcefsck files present on the disk?
[15:15] <epsilonorion_> histo: nope.  Did an updatedb and locate to see, no luck
[15:15] <Mitchell92> Hi all... having trouble staying connected to a specific router, notably a Comcat In-Home WiFi device... Using the RT2800PCI driver... I didn't have this issue a long time ago... but it's become an issue now. I'm wondering if I should just buy a MicroUSB WiFi adapter or a Nano USB Adapter.
[15:15] <Mitchell92> Comcast, rather
[15:18] <histo> epsilonorion_: dumpe2fs -h /dev/diskname
[15:19] <epsilonorion_> histo: specific option you are looking for or you want a pastbin
[15:19] <epsilonorion_> the filesystem state shows clean
[15:19] <epsilonorion_> so did the boot.log when I checked it
[15:20] <histo> epsilonorion_: the mount count and check etc... just pastebin
[15:20] <epsilonorion_> np
[15:20] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: I wonder if your computer's clock is giving bogus dates in the future triggering an automatic fsck since the last one performed was "20 years ago". (the clock could subsequently be fixed by ntpd once you're connected to the internet). Usually at boot you get a message explaining why the fsck was performed though.
[15:21] <mnms_> guys i've installed 13.04 and i cannot change sound settings like subwoofer cause it is disabled
[15:21] <asharas> I all! Is there a way to reconfigure my server? I mean, having the same dialog boxes as the first install?
[15:21] <mnms_> it this driver probelm ?
[15:21] <histo> mnms_: select the proper output device
[15:21] <mnms_> histo: i have one, buil-in audio Speakers
[15:22] <epsilonorion_> histo: http://pastebin.com/ZBhr1mCs
[15:22] <histo> mnms_: the Mode: Analog Stero Output change that to Dolby or whatever
[15:22] <Jordan_U> asharas: Do you want to change package settings or install new packages?
[15:22] <asharas> package settings
[15:22] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: at least in boot.log, it is not giving me a reason for the fsck
[15:22] <mnms_> histo: Is there any gui for change this ?
[15:23] <asharas> I already tried dpkg-reconfigure -a but no dialogbox
[15:23] <histo> epsilonorion_: that should not be checked on next boot unless there is an error
[15:23] <mnms_> cause in output tab in sound settings i dont have option for chane mode
[15:23] <asharas> Jordan_U: package settings
[15:23] <Jordan_U> asharas: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" didn't give you any prompts at all?
[15:23] <epsilonorion_> histo: agreed, but every boot fsck runs
[15:24] <histo> mnms_: go to sound settings in the bottom right area of the window there is Mode: Whatever
[15:24] <histo> mnms_: just above "Test Sound"
[15:24] <histo> epsilonorion_: no idea what is going on then perhaps someone else can help.
[15:24] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: Try shutting down then booting from a liveCD and see if the filesystem is still marked clean.
[15:24] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: It is
[15:25] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: I found a few links online with suggestions, that was one
[15:25] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: Does your computer connect via ethernet or wireless?
[15:25] <asharas> No Jordan_U , not any prompt
[15:25] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: currently wireless, but it hasn't made a difference
[15:25] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: if wired
[15:25] <mnms_> histo: if I dont have it ?
[15:26] <histo> mnms_: are you running ubuntu or some derivative ?
[15:26] <mnms_> i have only test subwoofer fade and balance
[15:26] <mnms_> ubuntu 13.04
[15:26] <histo> mnms_: screenshot please
[15:26] <mnms_> myabe im blind !
[15:26] <mnms_> ok wait a momment
[15:26] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: Try checking what date your computer says it is with wireless not connected automatically at boot, or from a LiveCD. Is it literally every boot or are there some boots where it's not checked?
[15:27] <histo> mnms_: I just want to see what they changed... You are on the output tab right?
[15:27] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: the date is correct.  It has been with every boot that this has happened.  I used to have ubuntu installed on my ssd, but decided to move it to the hdd.  On the ssd never had this problem.
[15:27] <mnms_> histo: yes of course
[15:28] <histo> mnms_: do you have the proper sound card selected?
[15:29] <histo> mnms_: if you have digital selected on the left you will be unable to change to the surround options
[15:30] <mnms_> histo: oh imageshack.us is not free now ?
[15:30] <epsilonorion_> niargh: not sure if anyone ever answered you but the way I always use is apt-cache show <pkg-name>
[15:30] <epsilonorion_> niargh: it isn't pretty but it works
[15:30] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: Could you pastebin this boot.log?
[15:31] <mnms_> histo: http://postimg.org/image/wn1sspclb/
[15:32] <histo> mnms_: can you pastebin lspci -k
[15:32] <mnms_> histo: of course
[15:32] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/g6GF2i9Y
[15:33] <mnms_> histo:
[15:33] <histo> epsilonorion_: it's not checking your disks
[15:33] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: Ahh, you're just misunderstanding. fsck is always run at boot, but it does nothing if the filesystem is marked clean. There is no problem with that output.
[15:34] <becom33> can we make ubuntu login to look like http://www.gauthampdas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gnome3.8-login.png that
[15:34] <becom33> I have the default login of 12.04 version
[15:34] <claypool_> http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/06/07/microsofts-xbox-one-owning-your-video-games-is-so-1994/
[15:34] <epsilonorion_> histo: ??
[15:34] <mnms_> histo: I cant find there my sound device
[15:34] <histo> epsilonorion_: It's not running a complete fsck
[15:34] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: I knew that nothing was wrong with the device
[15:34] <claypool_> microsfot taking not owning your own software to a new level with xbox one
[15:34] <epsilonorion_> histo: Jordan_U, ah
[15:35] <epsilonorion_> Guest it is just going very slow
[15:35] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: That's why you'll notice that "fsck /dev/sdXY" when sdXY is clean will take an almost imeasurably small time, whereas "fsck -f /dev/sdXY" (to force a full check even though it was unmounted cleanly) will sometimes take hours.
[15:35] <mnms_> histo: http://pastebin.com/8J0CNtDu
[15:36] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: that is true.  I just thought the fsck was still taking a while, but I can agree with you there
[15:36] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: You can use bootchart to see what is taking up time / CPU cycles / disk usage at boot.
[15:36] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: so just excruciatingly slow on other things
[15:37] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: I will try that
[15:37] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: How long does it take to boot?
[15:37] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: Before everything is happy and good to go, over a minute
[15:37] <Jordan_U> !ot | claypool_
[15:37] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: sad that I call that slow, but now days
[15:37] <claypool_> you are right, sorry
[15:38] <Mitchell92> Can someone help me with a problem with the RT2800PCI driver while connecting to a Comcast In-Home Wifi Device? I keep getting disconnected.
[15:39] <histo> mnms_: does cat /proc/asound/cards   only show one card?
[15:40] <histo> mnms_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/211201/how-to-activate-subwoofer-in-inspiron-17r
[15:40] <asharas> I all! Is there a way to reconfigure my server? I mean, having the same dialog boxes as the first install?
[15:40] <asharas> Hi all! Is there a way to reconfigure my server? I mean, having the same dialog boxes as the first install?
[15:40] <histo> asharas: sudo tasksel
[15:40] <mnms_> histo: yes
[15:40] <histo> mnms_: check the link I posted
[15:40] <asharas> tasksel?
[15:40] <histo> asharas: yes try it
[15:41] <histo> Mitchell92: you can try an updated driver from realtek and see if it helps
[15:41] <epsilonorion_> actually, here is another question.  Does anyone have a good resource for splitting opt into a separate partition (or would they suggest it as an option).  I thought about installing root on the ssd and opt/home/etc on the hdd, but not sure if it is a good idea
[15:42] <histo> epsilonorion_: you can put /opt anywhere you want
[15:42] <histo> !fstab | epsilonorion_
[15:42] <Eagleman> Can i call another script from inside a script, for example, at the end of my script:  /scripts/backups/test ?
[15:42] <histo> Eagleman: yes
[15:42] <Mitchell92> histo: Can you guide me as to how to do that?
[15:43] <epsilonorion_> histo: that is what I thought.  Seemed like it, just haven't ever done that myself.  Opt is just where I install all my applications from source, so wasn't sure
[15:43] <epsilonorion_> if it is suggested
[15:43] <Mitchell92> histo: Do you have a moment to help me in a pvt chat?
[15:43] <epsilonorion_> histo: thought having root on the ssd would increase boot speed while having opt and home on the hdd would help save space
[15:43] <histo> Mitchell92: go to realtek's website and search their downloads for your card. Download the driver read their instructions and install. Blakclist the one you are currently using.
[15:43] <Mitchell92> How do I blacklist it again?
[15:43] <histo> Mitchell92: You may want to search askubuntu.com and perhaps someone else has a fix first
[15:43] <histo> !blacklist > Mitchell92
[15:44] <histo> epsilonorion_: it will
[15:44] <sidney_> \quit
[15:44] <histo> epsilonorion_: Also you can mount /tmp and some things in /var to tmpfs also you can mount your browser cache to tmpfs to reduce writes as well.
[15:45] <Mitchell92> histo: how do I find out what the module I'm using is specifically named?
[15:45] <epsilonorion_> histo: how much space would you say the minimum I should give root in this situation.  I can always give more if needed, just thought I would ask.
[15:45] <histo> Mitchell92: lspci -k
[15:45] <epsilonorion_> histo: thanks for the suggestion.  Will definitely do that
[15:45] <Mitchell92> thanks
[15:45] <histo> epsilonorion_: also there are options for certain filesystems to help with SSDs to reduce writes and speed over time. like discard,noatime  etc...
[15:46] <histo> Mitchell92: I would search askubuntu.com first
[15:46] <Mitchell92> ok... search what? just RT2800PCI?
[15:46] <epsilonorion_> Jordan_U: thanks for the help
[15:46] <epsilonorion_> histo: thanks for the help as well
[15:46] <Jordan_U> epsilonorion_: You're welcome.
[15:46] <epsilonorion_> now time to play
[15:46] <histo> Mitchell92: your card model would be a good start
[15:48] <mnms_> histo:  sudo alsa force-reload should reload my sound system without rebooting ?
[15:48] <Mitchell92> Histo: Talink RT5290
[15:48] <Mitchell92> sorry
[15:48] <Mitchell92> RT5390
[15:49] <histo> mnms_: If you say so
[15:49] <epsilonorion_> histo: actually, one last thing.  How much space is it agreed that should be the minumum for root to start
[15:50] <mnms_> histo: ehh.. nothing happened.. i still cannot control subwoofer
[15:51] <Mitchell92> histo: It is reported on askubuntu once or twice with no answer. I will look on the realtek website for a driver.
[15:52] <mnms_> i feel little frustration :)
[15:53] <brian234> Hi guys. How do  i mount samba shares over ssh from ubuntu to ubuntu computers?
[15:54] <histo> mnms_: I would make a new post on askubuntu if no one here knows or the forums
[15:54] <histo> !sound | mnms_ You can also check here
[15:54] <histo> brian234: Samba over ssh?
[15:54] <histo> brian234: why not just use sshfs
[15:57] <asharas> histo: didn't do what I wanted
[15:58] <asharas> I'm trying to reconfigure my network from the beginning, with the wizard because I don't know why my hostname isn't properly recognized on my network
[15:58] <brian234> histo: i was playing around with sshfs. But I want it to appear like i'm on the filesharing network, not just to get the files on that one computer. can sshfs do that?
[15:59] <Afggh> Hi all
[15:59] <Afggh> Can i ask fedora question here?
[16:00] <daftykins> no
[16:00] <DJones> Afggh: Fedora have their own irc channel
[16:00] <Afggh> There are very few people there...they dont reply
[16:00] <johnjohn101> that's why it's better to use ubuntu!!
[16:04] <Mitchell92> histo: I can't seem to get the rt5390-dkms package for 13.04
[16:06]  * bathroom slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[16:06]  * bathroom slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps 13WAAGT5J around a bit with a large trout
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps [0x1a] around a bit with a large trout
[16:07] <FloodBot1> bathroom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <DJones> bathroom: Stop that
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps [_-S1L3NC3-_] around a bit with a large trout
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps [_-S1L3NC3-_] around a bit with a large trout
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps [cannibalera] around a bit with a large trout
[16:07]  * bathroom slaps [muttox] around a bit with a large trout
[16:07] <FloodBot1> bathroom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <Afggh> Touchpad clicks are not working in fedora 18. Any idea why?
[16:09] <daniel1> Hi, i am searching a pdf reader where I can highlight things fast in multiple colors
[16:09] <Afggh> People at fedora arent replying.
[16:09] <DJones> Afggh: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, I'm afraid you'll have to be patient in the Fedora channel
[16:10] <daniel1> okular can highlight but it is a pita to mark things and then change the color
[16:10] <DJones> Afggh: You could try asking in ##linux which is a general linux channel
[16:10] <Afggh> DJoned i am waiting since hours in fedora.
[16:10] <Afggh> Djones
[16:11] <DJones> Afggh: We can't help with that, this channel policy is only support for the official releases of Ubuntu
[16:12] <Afggh> DJones can we talk in private? If you dont mind
[16:12] <DJones> Afggh: Sorry no, I don't use pm's
[16:12] <udhayaraj> hi , i cant able to open my software center can any one guid me
[16:12] <johnjohn101> afggh: i don't see you in #fedora.  are  you trolling?
[16:13] <Afggh> I am there
[16:13] <daniel1> udhayaraj: alt+ f2. name of your software center
[16:13] <Afggh> See i messaged there
[16:13] <udhayaraj> ubuntu soft cent only afggh
[16:14] <mnms_> histo: anyway, thanks !
[16:14] <Afggh> Johnjohn101 i dont see YOU there
[16:16] <daniel1> so no1 knows aboud pdf readers ?
[16:16] <udhayaraj> @afggh its showing command nt found only dude
[16:16] <jwtiyar> how can i remove completely firefox and reinstall fresh one in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[16:17] <daniel1> jwtiyar: sudo apt-get purge firefox
[16:17] <asharas> back again
[16:17] <jwtiyar> daniel1, will remove every thing including .mozilla folder in home directory?
[16:17] <Afggh> Do i need to do something else thre? I jst joined the channel.
[16:17] <daniel1> jwtiyar: it should
[16:18] <jwtiyar> daniel1, i used it before its not work , i will do again thxx .
[16:18] <daniel1> jwtiyar: whats actually your problem ?
[16:19] <daniel1> jwtiyar: most problems with ff are within the ff-profile
[16:19] <jwtiyar> daniel1,  my FF full of bugs like one week its just damaging while opening an page , so i want to remove every thing and install again
[16:20] <diverdude> is there a terminal program for browsing internet where form elements work? (elinks is not working)
[16:22] <daniel1> diverdude: not realy sure about forms but maybe u givve lynx a try ?
[16:23] <daniel1> I am searching a pdf reader where I can highlight things fast in multiple colors
[16:23] <jwtiyar> daniel1, didnt work , i removed when i installed again its just installed previous files no download from zero .
[16:25] <daftykins> jwtiyar: perhaps you should be trying a clean firefox user profile instead
[16:25] <daniel1> jwtiyar: yes it gets allways the same sinc it puls it from the repos
[16:25] <diverdude> daniel1, how do i enter new address in lynx?
[16:26] <daniel1> jwtiyar: purge should kill your settings but if not just delete the .mozilla folder
[16:26] <johnjohn101> is there anyway to refresh the unity desktop. I have a the outline where it looks like when you drag a window to the top, but it's not being removed.
[16:26] <daniel1> jwtiyar: If it still bug maybe you should consider to install ff from the firefox ppa
[16:27] <asharas> any help guys?
[16:27] <daniel1> diverdude: sry I just know that it exists but I never actually used it
[16:29] <diverdude> lynx is even worse than elinks :/
[16:29] <johnjohn101> unity --replace    thanks all
[16:30] <junk> Hello Ubuntu
[16:30] <williangliao> kvm: disable by bios
[16:30] <Ripper> >
[16:32] <daftykins> asharas: what's your issue?
[16:36] <simen> ,
[16:37] <Ripper> I'm new to Linux can someone point in the right direction ....
[16:38] <daftykins> Ripper: if you have something specific to ask, ask away
[16:38] <drecute> ok
[16:38] <drecute> I just upgrades to 12.04.2 successfully
[16:39] <drecute> now I need to go up to 12.10
[16:39] <RylaiC> !qemu
[16:39] <drecute> But ubuntu says there are no updates
[16:40] <drecute> I also did do-release-upgrade and it says "no new release found"
[16:40] <Ripper> I'm new to Ubuntu daftykins .. I need to know ..How to install it
[16:40] <asharas> daftykins: I cloned my server to a bigger hard drive and now when I do a nslookup on the name, I have a NXDOMAIN return
[16:40] <asharas> already changed my hostname, etc...
[16:41] <daftykins> Ripper: ok, what kind of computer are you going to install on? have you downloaded ubuntu yet?
[16:42] <zykotick9> drecute: an LTS will only, be default, upgrade to the next LTS.  there is some way to change this behaviour.  good luck.
[16:42] <Ripper> I have Ubuntu 2.30.2
[16:42] <lduros> if you add a line e.g.: `aprogram &` inside the .profile file, it should run at startup right?
[16:42] <Ripper> daftykins
[16:42] <daftykins> drecute: just run "sudo update-manager -d" i believe, in a terminal
[16:42] <asharas> any idea daftykins ?
[16:42] <daftykins> Ripper: that's a kernel version really, not a version of ubuntu.
[16:43] <daftykins> asharas: what are you typing exactly when you run nslookup? why are you even doing that?
[16:43] <marko-_-> hey guys. I have a dell E5330 and it works perfectly. I tried to make the fingerprint work and it does. I added the repo to the repositories and installed fingerprint-gui, i scanned my 10  fingers but when i want to test it, it says (run it 2 times for 1 finger) it says "Finger print NOT verified!"
[16:44] <Ripper> Oh!
[16:44] <asharas> daftykins: nslookup ashserv01 (which is the name). when dumping IP traffic I noticed the name was PartedMagic.domain.com instead of AshServ01.domain.com (happened after a clone to a new hard drive
[16:44] <asharas> )
[16:45] <drecute> thanks daftykins
[16:45] <daftykins> asharas: ah yeah, i saw you mention that yesterday. is the content of your /etc/hosts file correct? as well as the hostname?
[16:45] <drecute> I'll leave it as it is
[16:45] <daftykins> drecute: is it working?
[16:46] <asharas> yeah daftykins , I already tried a lot of things like reconfiguring my packages, changing hostname
[16:46] <drecute> daftykins: But does that mean that once Ubuntu releases a new LTS, I can upgrade from 12.04 to [the new LTS version] without upgrading to 12.10 first?
[16:46] <daftykins> asharas: also you know that it's not correct to name your computers with FQDNs if they're not fully routed from the internet?
[16:47] <daftykins> drecute: i've read that LTS releases can be skipped between yeah
[16:47] <asharas> I don't name them with FQDN, my router does it automatically
[16:48] <daftykins> asharas: other than you seeing something you didn't expect within a program, i don't really see any problem that you've had so far?
[16:48] <asharas> every computer on my local network appears as NAME.ISPDOMAIN.FR
[16:48] <drecute> daftykins: cool! I love Ubuntu!
[16:49] <asharas> well, if I try to ssh connect to my server without declaring its name in /etc/hosts, I can't reach it
[16:49] <asharas> well, if I try to ssh connect to my server without declaring its name in /etc/hosts, I can't reach it daftykins
[16:49] <asharas> it use to work properly daftykins , but the cloning operation changed something and I wanna know where ^^
[16:50] <daftykins> asharas: that's common. on my windows PCs i can't use a hostname to connect to my Linux VMs unless they're running SAMBA and advertise themselves on the LAN. IPs are necessary instead.
[16:51] <daftykins> asharas: what you've encountered is a fact, not a problem :)
[16:52] <drun2> Привет, посоны
[16:52] <drun2> есть тут русские?
[16:53] <asharas> as I said daftykins , it used to work correctly before
[16:53] <DJones> !ru | drun2
[16:53] <asharas> I wanna know why not anymore
[16:53] <daftykins> asharas: i'm thinking
[16:55] <daftykins> asharas: i have to admit, i don't see any reason to waste any time on that because you can just put the IPs in as you say and forget all about it
[16:55] <asharas> I'm a perfectionist, I wanna know why :)
[16:55] <asharas> important to me
[16:55] <daftykins> so what program did you clone this drive with?
[16:55] <asharas> I wanna know what changed, why the clone is not exactly the same as original
[16:56] <daftykins> maybe you should contact the maker
[16:56] <asharas> or, other possibility, it's my router that shits up
[16:56] <asharas> I'll try to reset it
[16:57] <Shoggoth> lvm isn't picking up a change in the size of a physical volume... how do I fix it?
[17:07] <drun2> I cant join in #ubuntu-ru
[17:09] <pfifo> Hi guys
[17:09] <daftykins> pfifo: hi
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> Shoggoth  60+ people in #lvm
[17:11] <pong> what  is the login and password on initial boot for Lubuntu 13.04?
[17:12] <daftykins> pong: 'ubuntu' as username and no password - maybe?
[17:12] <hilarie> Odd question, is there a way to bind rsync over ssh to a specific network interface?
[17:14] <hilarie> would it be after -e ssh in there? am I looking at the wrong man?
[17:14] <pfifo> hilarie, it looks like you need the --address switch
[17:14] <b3rz3rk3r> I'm getting screen tearing on nvidia 310 drivers. I've tried lots of guides to fix this and nothing has worked. Has anyone fixed tearing before?
[17:14] <pong> daftykins, I tried a bunch of combinations but nothing took
[17:15] <daftykins> hilarie: do you not trust the network you're backing up over?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> b3rz3rk3r, which ubuntu release ?
[17:15] <pong> linux, admin, password
[17:15] <b3rz3rk3r> BluesKaj, 13.04
[17:15] <daftykins> pong: there is no password, is what i'm trying to say
[17:15] <hilarie> daftykins its a backup over wan, and have 2 would like to use one for backup the other for things that matter for latency
[17:15] <BluesKaj> b3rz3rk3r, look in the software center for nvidia 313 driver
[17:15] <Grub_> I need some help with a grub error, trying to reinstall ubuntu
[17:16] <b3rz3rk3r> BluesKaj, I'll give that a go, cheers
[17:16] <daftykins> hilarie: two internet connections/WAN links? your answer doesn't really refer to needing encryption or not
[17:16] <demonio> hi all how can i set the program startup by terminal'?
[17:17] <hilarie> daftykins I don't need encryption really, would be nice, but the important part is it goes over eth1 instead of eth0
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> hilarie  don't change a winning team, or whatever the proverb is
[17:18] <daftykins> hilarie: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14955344/how-to-bind-rsync-to-a-specific-interface
[17:19] <hilarie> MonkeyDust it's not winning, I can't VoiP or anything during backups, and I want to be able to access both WANS via this computer
[17:19] <SecretFire> why do rhythmbox and banshee keep crashing on the account of a segmentation fault (core dumped) error? This wasn't happening before and now all of the sudden it effects both programs. Can someone help me fix this bug?
[17:19] <daftykins> hilarie: you can only ever have one default gateway. does your host *have* to be the one performing the backups? why not a slave PC or VM?
[17:19] <hilarie> daftykins the google is strong with you!
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> hilarie  i missed that part in your question
[17:20] <hilarie> daftykins was thinking about using an old netbook for that, I just might
[17:20] <garrettkajmowicz> Greetings! I just upgraded my server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS and the newly-installed kernels will not boot. Specifically, I get dumped to a busybox shell. If I boot a kernel from 10.04, everything comes up fine. The funny thing is that if I am in the busybody shell, the root volume isn't mounted, but "mount /dev/md0 /root" works just fine. Any thoughts?
[17:21] <hilarie> Thank you for your help Daftykins and Monkeydust
[17:21] <daftykins> hilarie: i seem to be on form with my syntax today ;)
[17:21] <daftykins> hilarie: np, good luck with it
[17:21] <Makkusu> Hey guys, I have Windows 8 installed on Disk 1 (UEFI) and I want to install Ubuntu 13.04 on disk 2. Anything special to do?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> garrettkajmowicz  maybe the people in #ubuntu-server know best
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> !uefi
[17:21] <Makkusu> I can choose disk 2 as a destination but do I need to create an EFI partition on disk 2? How do I get the boot menu?
[17:21] <daftykins> Makkusu: just boot in EFI mode, run the installer, select the right disk and go for it :)
[17:21] <Makkusu> Yeh, I looked at that
[17:22] <Makkusu> In the past, I've installed GRUB on the first (Windows) disk to get a choice
[17:22] <Makkusu> is it the same with EFI?
[17:22] <PunkRider> SecretFire: try running banshee from terminal , not from menus , it spits a lot of info , i think you can deduce the problem from there . if not , try dmesg , then strace banshee
[17:22] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, boot into your system anyway you can ant try running 'sudo update-initramfs -k all'
[17:22] <daftykins> Makkusu: yep it should take care of it auto
[17:23] <Makkusu> ok, I'll try. Thanks!
[17:24] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I've booted into the system and updated the initramfs for the most recent (12.04) kernel.
[17:24] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I don't want to wreck the initramfs which works currently.  :-)
[17:25] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, thats fine, you can use -k <insert your kernel version here>
[17:25] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, make sure it updates grub too, it should trigger automatically though
[17:26] <SecretFire> PunkRider: i tried that, thats where I saw the segmentation fault error
[17:26] <PunkRider> secretfire:  just a segfault , no message?
[17:27] <SecretFire> PunkRider : Im doing it with rhythmbox
[17:28] <PunkRider> secretfire: i see that banshee spits a lot more info in console than rhytmbox, maybe you could see from there what is the problem
[17:28] <SecretFire> Ill run both
[17:28] <b3rz3rk3r> BlueEagle, still tearing after upgrading to 313 drivers
[17:29] <b3rz3rk3r> BlueEagle, anything else I can try?
[17:30] <daftykins> b3rz3rk3r: visual issues with recent nvidia drivers? i heard going back 4 versions or so helped with that
[17:30] <SecretFire> PunkRider : banshee wont open
[17:30] <b3rz3rk3r> daftykins, lol, to whats that? 304?
[17:30] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: How would I know if grub has been updated? I do get a warning about "cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/md0 cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab". I've manually run grub-install /dev/md0 and that finds the backing devices and reports no error.
[17:30] <b3rz3rk3r> or previous?
[17:30] <PunkRider> secretfire: tell me some error message , maybe i have an ideea
[17:31] <daftykins> b3rz3rk3r: that far might do it :)
[17:31] <SecretFire> well I had to xkill banshee earlier because it had frozen
[17:31] <pfifo> SecretFire, if you want more debug info about segfaults run the target program under valgrind
[17:31] <daftykins> b3rz3rk3r: unless you're running a latest generation 7xx series i see no reason to keep on the bleeding edge of graphics drivers :)
[17:32] <SecretFire> rhythmbox seems to be doing ok
[17:32] <wjtaylor> what does an s in the execution permissions bit mean?
[17:32] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, is you /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab setup properly, update-initramfs uses those files to determine what to boot. Also are you using disk encryption?
[17:33] <daftykins> wjtaylor: example?
[17:33] <PunkRider> secretfire : try this in console : strace banshee 2>outuput.log and paste the output.log to me on a private irc window
[17:33] <b3rz3rk3r> daftykins, fair point I suppose. I'll try roll back to 304 then
[17:33] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I'll dig through fstab and see if there's anything iteresting in there. I am not using encryption. I am using RAID1 with 2 disks.
[17:34] <wjtaylor> daftykins:
[17:34] <wjtaylor> # ls /usr/local/bin -la
[17:34] <wjtaylor> total 32
[17:34] <wjtaylor> drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff  4096 Jun  9 13:21 .
[17:34] <wjtaylor> drwxrwsr-x 10 root staff  4096 Feb 12  2011 ..
[17:34] <FloodBot1> wjtaylor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <wjtaylor> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  24415 Jun  9 13:21 vboxtool
[17:35] <diverdude> how do i cat line 55 to 89 of a file?
[17:35] <SecretFire> PunkRider: I did strace banshee>2output.log and nothing happened
[17:35] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, softraid, fakeraid or realraid?
[17:35] <daftykins> wjtaylor: "s in the place where 'x' would normally go is called the set-UID or set-groupID flag."
[17:36] <PunkRider> secretfire : put a space between bannshee and >
[17:36] <PunkRider> secretfire : just copy this command
[17:36] <SecretFire> k
[17:36] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: ? In-kernel mirroring with md device. 2 physical disks.
[17:36] <PunkRider> secretfire : just copy this command : strace banshee 2>output.log
[17:36] <SecretFire> PunkRider : wow big output
[17:36] <PunkRider> yep
[17:37] <SecretFire> ok Ill pm you
[17:37] <PunkRider> look at the end
[17:37] <PunkRider> maybe you can figure it out, it's pretty obvious(sometimes)
[17:38] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: Looks like the warning I saw is related to the cryptsetup code (which I am not using) flaking out: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641662
[17:39] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, ok, you need to ensure update-initramfs knows howto setup your array during boot, if you can get rid of the warnning your getting the new kernels should work. Im not sure howto do the raid side of things, ive only dealt with the encryption side of this.
[17:40] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I can manually run grub and that works. The new initramfs is built correctly. Once booted, the array is assembled correctly, too. That's the funny thing. If I type "mount /dev/md0 /root" it works perfectly.
[17:40] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, pastebin your /etc/fstab please
[17:43] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: With bonus data! http://pastebin.com/KJRyBXkm
[17:44] <hds> hi there
[17:45] <Shoggoth> MonkeyDust: sorry... was afk... thanks I've sorted my problem but thanks for responding...
[17:45] <Guest221> trying to fix a friends box. ubuntu 12.04, lightdm as default window manager, doesnt start at boot, does however when i start it manually via console. any ideas where to look_?
[17:53] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, take a look at this, seems to be the fix you need, http://serverfault.com/questions/209379/what-tells-initramfs-or-the-ubuntu-server-boot-process-how-to-assemble-raid-arra
[17:53] <evandro> hi, does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a windows 8 machine? i have followed instructions from foruns but still wasn't able to do it =(
[17:54] <daftykins> evandro: what goes wrong?
[17:55] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I'm not getting any error about no root device. I don't need to type anything to assemble the md device - it's ready to go.
[17:56] <evandro> daftykins: it simply cannot boot from usb
[17:56] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I'm going to disconnect for a moment and reboot (severing network connection). I'm going to try and stop the framebuffer from being enabled and perhaps I'll see extra text which had been cleared before.
[17:56] <daftykins> evandro: is it a laptop? make/model? is this 13.04 on the flash drive?
[17:56] <evandro> no, 12.04
[17:56] <Slart> evandro: I don't think it's windows 8 that is being the problems.. it might be that the computer uses uefi instead of the regular bios
[17:57] <evandro> slart: i agree, but i cannot deal with this issue either
[17:57] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, then, perhaps its just jumping the gun, there is a way to make it wait for a few seconds before mounting disks, i think you just add 'waitusb' to the kernel line
[17:58] <Slart> evandro: perhaps this helps? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:59] <evandro> Slart: have tried, but no success
[17:59] <daftykins> evandro: i think 12.04.2 can boot in EFI mode - no?
[17:59] <daftykins> evandro: so... laptop? make + model?
[18:00] <evandro> daftykins: samsung core i3...pretty new...
[18:01] <evandro> daftykins: i have already disabled secureboot and quickstart
[18:02] <daftykins> evandro: i'd recommend updating to the latest BIOS for the system. samsung publish windows BIOS update .exe's
[18:02] <evandro> daftykins: ok, will try this
[18:02] <daftykins> evandro: also your flash drive definitely has 12.04.2 ?
[18:03] <evandro> daftykins: definitely yes
[18:03] <daftykins> cool
[18:04] <evandro> daftykins: it boots...and it gives the option to read flashdrive...but when i choose this option, it doesn't do anything
[18:05] <daftykins> evandro: are you picking the flash drive generic option, or UEFI option? should be one for each
[18:05] <daftykins> evandro: er swap 'generic' for 'legacy'
[18:06] <evandro> daftykins: do you mean when i download it?
[18:08] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: Rebooted, nothing interesting on the console by disabling the framebuf. I was booting the updated initramsfs. md0 still auto-assembles. I still get kicked to the busybox shell. Sadly, passing "debug" as a parameter doesn't get me much more. Any other suggestions?
[18:08] <daftykins> evandro: no, some laptops implementations of EFI display two boot entries per device, one for EFI mode and one for non-EFI
[18:08] <daftykins> where non-EFI = legacy
[18:09] <evandro> daftykins: ah sure, i pick the generic option. the uefi option simply goes straight to windows
[18:09] <daftykins> evandro: interesting. you're doing this from a cold boot also? you have to make the UEFI flash drive option work
[18:09] <chopix> hello
[18:09] <campo> hola sabeis donde buscar repositos para ubuntu
[18:09] <chopix> how to check if a upstart script is being loaded ?
[18:10] <jackw411> Hi guys: I've just managed to get my first win7 vm going on Ubuntu... How the hell do I transfer files to and from the VM from the Host?
[18:10] <jackw411> I've googled but not found a lot
[18:10] <evandro> daftykins: yes, from cold boot...the uefi option doesn't work...maybe should i try with ubuntu 13.04?
[18:10] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, add 'rootdelay=n' to your kernel line, try a value of 10 for n as a starting point.
[18:10] <daftykins> evandro: try the BIOS update first if you're comfortable with that, then a newer ubuntu
[18:10] <MartynKeigher> hey all..what a good quick cli command to get system info of a 12.04 server?
[18:11] <chopix> how to check if a upstart script is being loaded ? im trying to get faxgetty of hylafax getting respwaned
[18:11] <chopix> but im failing
[18:11] <evandro> daftykins: ok!
[18:11] <MartynKeigher> mainly focused on disk space used/free.
[18:11] <daftykins> MartynKeigher: sudo lshw > ~/info.txt
[18:11] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, that will make it pause for 10 seconds before trying to mount the device
[18:11] <OerHeks> MartynKeigher, lshw / lsusb / lspci / lscpu
[18:11] <MartynKeigher> thanks!
[18:14] <xebra> hi, is the time in Ubuntu synchronized at startup? In several years, I've never had to adjust it, so I thought it did something automatically. However, I just found out I don't have "ntp", so what does it actually do?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> jackw411  ask in #vbox
[18:16] <samgabbay> hi when i use skype i hear weired noises like it sounds kind of distorted
[18:16] <jackw411> MonkeyDust: it's fine, I solved it =]
[18:16] <Slart> xebra: it's been some time since I did a clean install.. but I seem to recall having to install the ntpclient manually.. although my memory might be hazy
[18:17] <samgabbay> when i use skype i hear distorted sounds
[18:17] <Slart> xebra: it wouldn't surprise me if ubuntu has some kind of lightweight time-keeping stuff installed from the start that doesn't do all the fancy stuff ntp does
[18:18] <DJones> xebra: If you look at Time & Date in system settings, there is an option to manually or automatically set the time
[18:18] <urbano1> hey guys, how to register?
[18:18] <urbano1> !register urbano1
[18:18] <DJones> !register | urbano1
[18:18] <urbano1> ty
[18:18] <daftykins> urbano1: say hello to nickserv
[18:19] <Slart> xebra: this page seems to imply that ntp isn't installed by default https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[18:19] <urbano1> i need to register in #python, how to?
[18:19] <kostkon> xebra, it connects to canonical's time server which in turn may connects to another time server and so on. the last server in the chain must be a server connected to an atomic clock
[18:19] <samgabbay> someone help me with skype i hear distorted sounds
[18:19] <DJones> xebra: Mine is set to automatically get the time from the internet, from memory, it runs a check at boot  up to set the time
[18:19] <daftykins> urbano1: go join #freenode and ask
[18:19] <urbano1> ty
[18:19] <daftykins> samgabbay: people only reply when they have an idea. nobody has so nobody has an idea.
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> !register | urbano1
[18:20] <Slart> xebra: ah.. that url I sent mentions that ubuntu comes with ntpdate installed by default and it sets the time when you boot up.. ntp does a bit more than that, it constantly updates the internal clock and makes all kinds of voodoo stuff to make your clock run accurately
[18:20] <AGX2> hello everyone, i need some help here i cant install ia32-libs on ubuntu 13.04 and i need it to run WPS office can someone help me out please
[18:20] <cristian_c> Hi
[18:21] <cristian_c> I've installed xbindkeys-config
[18:21] <jackw411> AGX2: look thru the missing dependancies its moaning about
[18:21] <daftykins> cristian_c: please ask on one line
[18:21] <jackw411> install each one before installing ia32-libs
[18:21] <cristian_c> If I try to get the key with GetKey, nothing is printed in the application. How can I check the right identification of my key?
[18:21] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[18:22] <AGX2> it says it depends on ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:22] <AGX2> can t even install it
[18:22] <Bossman> hi
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:22] <Bossman> how are u all
[18:22] <jackw411> AGX2: yeah i had the same thing
[18:22] <pfifo> cristian_c, try using 'xev' program
[18:23] <AGX2> and how did u passed it ?
[18:23] <cristian_c> pfifo, I've already tried xev
[18:23] <jackw411> i just looked at what ia32-libs-multi was missing and installed those, then did ia32-libs-multiarch
[18:23] <jackw411> theres a flag on sudo apt-get install you can pass that lets you chase up those dependencies if u wanna do it with 1 cmd, but i cba finding it for you
[18:23] <xebra> Slart, thanks. I guess it just uses ntpdate then. Earlier at boot, my network didn't work, so I noticed the time was wrong (and is still wrong even after rebooting). I find it weird though. If the time got so wrong in one night, do I have a problem with the mobo battery?
[18:24] <pfifo> cristian_c, and what happened?
[18:24] <AGX2> jackw411: its an endless list
[18:24] <aurorahacker> eai
[18:24] <jackw411> AGX2: pastebin it
[18:24] <AGX2> trying to install missing dependencies and have more missing depencies to install the dependencie for ia32
[18:25] <jackw411> AGX2: yeah
[18:25] <jackw411> pretty much same story
[18:25] <aurorahacker> quem tem
[18:25] <Slart> xebra: perhaps, try setting the clock manually, reboot and then see if the clock starts acting up
[18:25] <cristian_c> pfifo, a similar output:     keys:  0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0              0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[18:26] <Slart> xebra: but as long as you keep the computer connected to the internet keeping the clock accurate shouldn't be a problem
[18:26] <cristian_c> similar, not exact, pfifo
[18:26] <xebra> Slart, ok thank you. Need to go now, bye
[18:26] <AGX2> jackw411: thanks for the help
[18:27] <AGX2> :)
[18:27] <jackw411> no problem
[18:27] <PunkRider>  AGX2: try this shortcut: install (by force if you have to) your office? program and then sudo apt-get -f install . it should update all missing packages
[18:27] <jackw411> PunkRider: thats what i was talking about earlier^
[18:27] <jackw411> couldn'
[18:27] <PunkRider> oops sorry
[18:27] <pfifo> cristian_c, thats not really what I expect as output from xev, what key are you pressing?
[18:27] <jackw411> t remember it
[18:27] <PunkRider> didnt see it
[18:28] <PunkRider> my bad
[18:28] <cristian_c> pfifo, the sleep button
[18:30] <pfifo> cristian_c, hmm, maybe you missed the important part, heres the result I get from xev when i press sleep, http://fpaste.org/17577/13708026/
[18:32] <pfifo> crimsonmane, XF86Sleep would be what you need
[18:32] <cristian_c> pfifo, no, it's similar to this: KeymapNotify event, serial 41, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[18:32] <pfifo> crimsonmane, disregard that, sorry
[18:32] <cristian_c> pfifo, and keys: 0 0 0 0 blah blah blah
[18:33] <cristian_c> pfifo, I think it's that the problem
[18:33] <cristian_c> pfifo, it should print state 0x10, keycode 150 (keysym 0x1008ff2f, XF86Sleep), same_screen YES, but it doesn't
[18:34] <chuck_> ufw DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY is set in /etc/default/ufw.  The page on setting up IPv6, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6#ufw_and_Routing, says to set it as DROP and the wiki page about setting up MASQ, https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/firewall.html#ip-masquerading, says to set it to ACCEPT.  How can I set IPv4 to ACCEPT and IPv6 to DROP?
[18:34] <TLoFP> Hi all, I want to install ubuntu on an SD card, but have the bootloader live on the main hdd. Is this possible?
[18:35] <TLoFP> the main HDD also has windows on it. Will the ubuntu bootloader still find the windows partition even if I install Ubuntu on a different drive?
[18:35] <pfifo> cristian_c,  are you sure, xev dumps lots of crap your not intrested in, look for a KeyPress event and ignore the KeymapNotify event
[18:36] <daftykins> TLoFP: yeah should be fine
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, Is this sd card a plugin type or internal?
[18:36] <daftykins> TLoFP: just make sure you don't create a swap on the SD card
[18:36] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: No luck with rootdelay. I cranked it up to 30 and I was dropped to the busybox shell within 5 seconds of boot.
[18:36] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: plug in type
[18:36] <TLoFP> daftykins: can I get away without swap partition? 8 gig memory
[18:37] <daftykins> yes
[18:37] <cristian_c> pfifo, when I press this key, it doesn't appear any keypress event
[18:37] <cristian_c> :(
[18:37] <cristian_c> pfifo, but those strings
[18:37] <b1n4ry> Hi, is it not possible to configure hostapd in raring ringtail with broadcom BCM4313
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, May run a bit rough that way, slow in general. all your questions have yes and no answers depending on varibles.
[18:38] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, likely cause is the initramfs dosent use rootdelay, check and see if the kernel line for the old/working kernel has something similar.
[18:38] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: I see, performance shouldn't be an issue, will be doing mostly command line stuff
[18:38] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: Nope.
[18:39]  * TLoFP forgot to backup disk
[18:39] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: Other than the filenames the kernel lines are identical.
[18:39] <TLoFP> better make backup before experiementing : )
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> yes
[18:40] <A1Recon> How to rename all jpg files in a folder in this manner ... 1.jpg , 2.jpg , 3.jpg
[18:40] <pfifo> cristian_c, im not sure, perhaps the button is broken?
[18:41] <new_122101104101> how to diet our kernel?
[18:42] <cristian_c> pfifo, it worked with keytouch, I think
[18:42] <cristian_c> pfifo, it worked with windows
[18:42] <uskerine> hi, could someone kindly help me to find the equivalent in ubuntu 12.04 to /sbin/chkconfig and /sbin(service ---   http://pastebin.com/p6w00AJW
[18:42] <sambagirl> hi i am running ubuntu 13.04 with the gnome 3.8 including the ppa attributes thingy.  my question is whether there is anything associated with gnome that will allow me to have the minimize, full screen, exit prompts on windows and/or apps?
[18:42] <uskerine> thanks!
[18:42] <cristian_c> pfifo, I'l try some experiments
[18:43] <cristian_c> pfifo, that message in xev appeared with audio buttons too
[18:43] <cristian_c> pfifo, but audio buttons work
[18:44] <stevePage129> hey all, im having an issue with my UPS (Emerson Liebert Power Supply Unit). it works just fine in Windows. i am migrating to a new Ubuntu Server, and my issue is that after removing the stock battery application, and installing NUT along with its Graphics Application nut-monitor, it shows the correct power supply, and the service is able to connect using the Nut user, however, all the Values seem to be "off", some incorrect, some
[18:44] <stevePage129> http://askubuntu.com/questions/305701/my-emerson-liebert-ups-is-not-reporting-correctly-but-works-in-windows
[18:45] <hacktus0> I search a FREE VPN (virtual private network) FOR UBUNTU. can you help me ?
[18:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !vpn | hacktus0
[18:45] <sambagirl> when i unplug from ac i get this critical battery state. this is a brand new laptop and i know the battery is fully charged.
[18:45] <jeevanus> ubuntustudio 12.04 suspend not authorized, can some one help?
[18:45] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, this really looks like your problem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/218251/disks-not-ready-in-array-causes-mdadm-to-force-initramfs-shell
[18:46] <hacktus0> thank ubottu, verry much.
[18:46] <sambagirl> jeevanus probably cause you are in #ubuntu and not #ubuntustudio :D
[18:47] <dror> hi. i'm using 12.04, and would like to extract CD audio to ogg in 320kbps. using rhythmbox i'm unable to control the bitrate (the "settings" button is disabled). any solution for this?
[18:48] <Ellixt> use banshee
[18:48] <A1Recon> How to rename all jpg files in a folder in this manner ... 1.jpg , 2.jpg , 3.jpg , 4.jpg , .....
[18:48] <pfifo> cristian_c, maybe the sleep button isnt really a sleep button, perhaps its all taken care of in hardware or a software driver for windows.
[18:48] <rypervenche> A1Recon: It depends on what is in the folder right now. You might be able to use "rename", but I would just write a loop.
[18:49] <pfifo> A1Recon, there are a bunch of utils for that, take your pick http://askubuntu.com/questions/10607/what-mass-file-renaming-tools-are-available
[18:49] <A1Recon> rypervenche: just .jpg files are in the folder
[18:50] <A1Recon> pfifo: I will look into that but i am more interested in a command
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> A1Recon  ask in #bash
[18:51] <flux242> A1Recon: the command you're looking for is called - rename
[18:51] <cristian_c> pfifo, it's a moon icon
[18:51] <pfifo> A1 bash allow for this 'for file in /etc/*'
[18:52] <pfifo> A1Recon, see above
[18:52] <cristian_c> pfifo, I remember it executes the suspend function
[18:52] <pfifo> cristian_c, is this a laptops built in keyboard?
[18:52] <cristian_c> pfifo, I'll try some experiments
[18:52] <cristian_c> pfifo, no, it's an external keyboard
[18:53] <A1Recon> flux242: I know its rename but i dont know how to make it rename in a logical progression like 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg
[18:53] <rypervenche> A1Recon: x=1; for file in *.jpg; do mv ${file} ${x}.jpg; x=$[x+1]; done
[18:53] <flux242> A1Recon: doing it in a loop is also simple. Just use a counter inside of the for loop
[18:54] <flux242> A1Recon: google for bash arithmetics
[18:54] <samgabbay> Can someone help me instzll aritix it wont work when i put the commands that are on the site
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: which site?
[18:54] <PunkRider> A1Recon: x=1;for i in `ls *`;do mv $i $x.jpg ;x=$((x+1));done
[18:54] <A1Recon> rypervenche: Thanks!! How did u do that??
[18:55] <PunkRider> A1Recon: x=1;for i in `ls *`;do mv $i $x.jpg ;x=$((x+1));done
[18:55] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip, here http://www.atrinik.org/page/installing_atrinik_client
[18:55] <rypervenche> A1Recon: I typed it out :P
[18:55] <A1Recon> rypervenche: I mean what is that??
[18:55] <pfifo> cristian_c, It really looks like its not an actual keyboard key.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: what is the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/atrinik-packages.list
[18:56] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: I'll give that a shot.
[18:56] <rypervenche> A1Recon: It renames all files in your current directory to numbers.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: and what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:56] <pfifo> Hello ActionParsnip
[18:56] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  it gives medeb http://packages.atrinik.org raring/
[18:57] <samgabbay> and for the other if i put it sepreatly it just wont do anything
[18:57] <cristian_c> pfifo, i've didn't understand
[18:57] <armin> hi, when pressing the <alt> (meta) key in ubuntu unity, i get a menu in the top panel. can i disable this?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: the ppa doesnt support raring
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: hi
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> sagabbay: http://packages.atrinik.org
[18:58] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  is there anyway i can get it
[18:59] <pfifo> cristian_c, instead of sending XF86Sleep to the OS it seends some data that only the windows driver is equipped to handle, im not sure of this, but it seems to be working in this matter
[18:59] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  is there any way i can get it to work on raring
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: you could switch the source to squeeze by editting the source file, or change it to maverick. Id contact the devs directly
[18:59] <cristian_c> pfifo, ok
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: have you searched for a ppa?
[19:00] <cristian_c> pfifo, I don't know how to solve it
[19:00] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  what do you mean and ive only enterned whatever it said on the actual website
[19:00] <A1Recon> using the convert command to convert jpg files to pdf but it doesnot start from 1.jpg
[19:00] <fjodor> hi, i'd like to create my own kind of ubuntu/linux distro. i want to my private xbmc distro which automatically installs all my nintendo-roms
[19:00] <haiman> anyone know a distribution that is easy to install, is using sysv init scripts, and has a descent package manager or ports system?
[19:01] <fjodor> i am not sure if i want a live-system or a regular install which runs from usb
[19:01] <fjodor> i dont know which tool i should use
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> samgabbay  try here http://www.atrinik.org/index.php/board,11.0.html
[19:01] <samgabbay> one secodn
[19:02] <samgabbay> what do i do ?? 0.o
[19:02] <auronandace> haiman: ask in ##linux
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: yes but the source package doesnt support your release so you need to edit the file
[19:02] <samgabbay> MonkeyDust,  like what do i do
[19:02] <pfifo> cristian_c, well if it really is the way I explained, there is no fix aside from writing a kernel module for your keyboard.
[19:02] <haiman> auronandace: i cant send there
[19:02] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  what do i do ? how do i do that
[19:02] <haiman> it says @cant send@
[19:02] <rypervenche> A1Recon: use convert
[19:02] <rypervenche> A1Recon: It comes from imagemagick
[19:02] <auronandace> !register | haiman
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: https://launchpad.net/~atrinik-dev/+archive/ppa you may be able to find something if you contact that team
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> samgabbay  ask your question there, or maybe you find an answer there
[19:02] <cristian_c> pfifo, lol
[19:02] <rypervenche> A1Recon: convert 2.jpg 4.jpg output.pdf
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> samgabbay  it is not an ubuntu question
[19:03] <keith_> hey folks. running ubuntustudio and lost the ability to change the desktop via settings or from the desktop itself. Anyone know how to restore this?
[19:03] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip, do i add the ppa?
[19:03] <A1Recon> rypervenche: i used convert but the pdf has 1.jpg somewhere in the middle and 2.jpg somewhere else... Its going random
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> keith_  there's also #ubuntu-studio
[19:03] <sambagirl> i can't get a garbage can to appear anywhere in 13.04. i can't believe this is what everyone was waiting for…laugh. oh my god..
[19:03] <A1Recon> rypervenche: i am using convert *.jpg new.pdf
[19:03] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: Sadly, no luck. Same result. (Yes, I rebuilt the initramfs).
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: no,it doesnt support your release, you would have known that if you'd dropped the release dropdown.....
[19:04] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  soooooo i contact them??
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: run: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/atrinik-packages.list ,and edit the raring word to maverick
[19:04] <keith_> MoneyDust: will try there, thanks
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: yes, contact them. What does this app do anyway?
[19:05] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  its a fun game
[19:06] <rypervenche> A1Recon: I'll help you in a PM.
[19:07] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, im running out of ideas, might be easier to just install fresh with a freshly formatted array... In all honesty, if you really want to use raid for root, you should get an actual raid controller, then the array will just appear as a /dev/sdXY style drive.
[19:07] <pfifo> garrettkajmowicz, I need to got eat, afk
[19:08] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  i wrote the command down but what do i write in the text fiel
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> samfabbay: read what i wrote earlier.....
[19:09] <samgabbay> i catn im  on xchat
[19:09] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: The whole purpose of upgrading is to avoid re-installing. That's also why I'm sticking with the LTS releases as well.
[19:09] <samgabbay> wotn elt me]
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: change the word raring to maverick
[19:09] <samgabbay> kk
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: xchat will scroll back you know...
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: try the mouse
[19:10] <samgabbay> ok
[19:10] <garrettkajmowicz> pfifo: Any suggestions on where I might be able to go from here or who I should contact?
[19:10] <babyswizz> please how can I upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 vm to 13.04
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: raring is EOL before quantal, just so you know
[19:12] <samgabbay> wait a seccccc then i do what?
[19:12] <samgabbay> after i put marevik
[19:12] <IdleOne> make sure you didn't typo any of those edits you made
[19:12] <samgabbay> huh
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: save the new file and close gedit
[19:13] <samgabbay> what next
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: then run the commands on the page you posted
[19:13] <babyswizz> actionparsnip; I don't understand what you mean by EOL
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: is it not obvious? based on what has been said so far...think about it.....
[19:14] <samgabbay> sorryu im soo dumb
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: no longer supported
[19:14] <IdleOne> babyswizz: EOL is End of Life, means that 13.04 will reach the end of its support cycle before 12.10
[19:14] <seronis> babyswizz: EOL = end of life  (no longer supported)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: no, you just need to think a little. nothing you cannot do
[19:14] <IdleOne> babyswizz: that said you will be able to upgrade to 13.10 at that point.
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: the repo doesnt support your release so we changed the file to use one that it does support by editting that file.
[19:15] <chimeracoder> My speaker is working (speaker-test) but I can't play audio from any other program (chrome, etc.)
[19:15] <poee> hi, can i use nokia lumia 710 to connect to internet in ubuntu?
[19:15] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys!
[19:15] <chimeracoder> how do I fix that?
[19:15] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone here use Deluge as bit torrent client?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: now it is pointing to a folder that exists the guide will work. simple isnt it
[19:16] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip, one second
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> wiz_keed: many do
[19:16] <weliton_> eae
[19:16] <samgabbay> still gives me raring when i enter the command
[19:16] <weliton_> #
[19:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, would you or anyone else who uses it for that matter have any clue why the files from a downloading torrent might have the priority options grayed out?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: did you run sudo apt-get update
[19:17] <samgabbay> yep
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: after the file edit?
[19:18] <samgabbay> yea
[19:19] <richard> Hello@
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: in the output, did you see the word 'maverick'
[19:19] <samgabbay> yea i put that
[19:19] <samgabbay> in the text file
[19:19] <Stephen_Noob> I'm logged into a x11vnc server and I receive a terminal, how do I start gnome?
[19:20] <IdleOne> Stephen_Noob: sudo service lightdm start
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: what is the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/atrinik-packages.list
[19:21] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[19:21] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/atrinik-packages.list
[19:21] <samgabbay> ooops
[19:21] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip,  deb raring
[19:21] <samgabbay> deb http://packages.atrinik.org raring
[19:21] <Stephen_Noob> IdleOne: ightdm start/running, process 7759
[19:21] <IdleOne> Wiz_KeeD: probably want to try #deluge
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh they have a channel
[19:22] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you IdleOne !
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> samgabba: then you havent editted the file...
[19:22] <IdleOne> samgabbay: that shows it is using raring as the release version to use which is not supported. This means you didn't edit the sources.list properly
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: remeber "change raring to maverick" which I told you twice....
[19:23] <samgabbay> i did
[19:23] <samgabbay> fine il do it again whats the commad
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: then why does the file have raring in it
[19:23] <samgabbay> dont know
[19:23] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: get a paste of sources, edit it and have them copy the whole thing. will take you less time.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> samgabay: use the up cursor in the terminal
[19:23] <Stephen_Noob> IdleOne: I'm hoping to use gnome through terminal. Just not sure how to do that.
[19:23] <IdleOne> Stephen_Noob: me either
[19:24] <Stephen_Noob> IdleOne: Boo...
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> idleone: its one file with one lune :-)
[19:24] <Stephen_Noob> Anyone know how I can start gnome from terminal through x11vnc?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: wait, did you run ALL the commands from the website again after you editted the file?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: what is the reason for connecting to the remote system?
[19:25] <samgabbay> now i changed it
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: ok, run: sudo apt-get update
[19:26] <samgabbay> ok
[19:26] <stevePage129> would anybody mind checking out my Ubuntu 12.04 Server problem that i am having with my Emerson Liebert UPS -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/305701/my-emerson-liebert-ups-is-not-reporting-correctly-but-works-in-windows
[19:26] <stevePage129> thanks
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: then run: sudo apt-get install atrinik-client
[19:26] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParnsip: It's a headless install, I've been using SSH to set everything up.
[19:26] <samgabbay> now il run update
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: doesnt answer the question. Why do you need to connect via vnc? what are you doing on the remote system?
[19:28] <samgabbay> ActionParsnip, this is what i got after typing install and editing the file atrinik-client
[19:28] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: I think it would be easier for me to use a GUI... linux noob
[19:28] <samgabbay> oops
[19:28] <samgabbay> i got E: Unable to locate package atrinik-client
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> samgabbay: ok, what is the output when you cat the file?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> samgabbay  i guess, what you want is not possible
[19:29] <samgabbay> yea
[19:29] <samgabbay> it just wotn work
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: but what will you be doing on the remote system? there may be a sleeker solution for what you want to achieve. not everything going to a remote pc is cli based
[19:31] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: I'm not really having difficultly setting anything up, I guess I'm just more comfortable in a GUI environment. Background in windows and macos. Sort of experimenting with linux for the first time.
[19:31] <pfifo> i need that garret guy to come back, I do know who could try and help
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: eg transmission has a web ui which you can interface with ising transgui
[19:31] <armin> any way to completely disable mnemonics in ubuntu unity?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: again, not everythin is non-gui
[19:32] <Lyte101> Can anybody help retrieve missing LVM?
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> armin  system settings, privacy
[19:33] <pfifo> Lyte101, are you garret from before?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: you can manage files using sftp which you get with the ssh server you already have installed
[19:33] <armin> MonkeyDust: sure we talk about the same thing?
[19:33] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: Hmm... I guess I just want the learning experience? I don't have some concrete objective. I can work in SSH just fine just though it would be more "fun" to try the GUI side
[19:33] <Lyte101> pfifo, no I'm not
[19:34] <pfifo> Lyte101, ok disregard that then... also just ask, if someone knows well answer
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> armin  no, not clear what you mean by mnemonis, i thought you meant history
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: thats why I always ask. People are too quick to jump to vnc when lighter more efficient solutions exist
[19:35] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: Yea, like I said I can work in terminal I just want to see the perty GUI :) Is it a difficult step to set up gnome to run in VNC?
[19:35] <Lyte101> any know of a way to retrieve a missing lvm? (can't mount after server went down)
[19:35] <jeevanus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5749477/ - some one help with this error
[19:36] <jeevanus_> how to make "Authorized to suspend: False" to True?
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: never had to use it in Linux. The servers available mean its simply not needed for me. vnc is such an old unsecure protocol
[19:37] <pfifo> Lyte101, what kind of LVM, raid or encryption
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: if its for the sake of doing it then groovy but i suggest you look at sleeker solutions to what you want to achieve
[19:39] <th4tcat> my ubuntu 13.04 is not recognizing my disc drive or my usb ports. this all happened one day after i removed and reinserted a usb pen drive. i am still getting power to the usb ports since i still charge my phone through it. i have looked everywhere online and i cannot find any similar cases (both disc drive and usb not being recognized). i did find some vague information on how to remount the drives but i do not know which is
[19:39] <th4tcat> which and it just didnt seem to work right
[19:40] <Lyte101> pfifo, I only used the lvm create so not 100% sure but I'll say encryption
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, Have you used the usb devices as plug and pull or added them to fstab?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> th4tcat: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS before physically removing it?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> that to ^^^
[19:41] <th4tcat> I did not see the safe removal tool unfortunately
[19:41] <cazazo> hi guys
[19:41] <th4tcat> i tried adding them to fstab i think but i didnt know which is which and i couldnt figure it out
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> th4tcat: right click the storage icon in the Unity panel...
[19:42] <cazazo> my calendar on ubuntu classic is showing the next month's date...
[19:42] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: Orly @ vnc. Are there better solution to transmit a GUI environment remotely?
[19:42] <cazazo> any idea to fix jit...
[19:42] <pfifo> Lyte101, can you pastebin your /etc/crypttab file then please
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> th4tcat: is it ntfs based?
[19:42] <th4tcat> Yes
[19:42]  * th4tcat is looking for the unity panel
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: no idea. its terribly inefficient
[19:43] <we6jbo> Hi
[19:43] <cazazo> when I click on the calendar at the right top of the screen... it does show the july month instead of the present month...
[19:43] <th4tcat> oh nevermind i found it
[19:43] <th4tcat> lol
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> th4tcat: then i suggest you shove it in a Windows PC and chkdsk it. Then remove it safely and I bet it works. If you just pull the device then you arent letting the caches sync and you'll get issues
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> th4tcat  if all else fails, join #ubuntu
[19:44] <th4tcat> 0_o
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> th4tcat: thats why its the first thing I ask. People mistreat USB storage then wonder why they get issues
[19:44] <th4tcat> the pen drive still works on windows, but my ubuntu notebook doesnt see anything
[19:44] <cazazo> nvm
[19:45] <th4tcat> hold on
[19:45] <Lyte101> pfifo, alright I'll get that but actually that info is within my fstab.
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> th4tcat: check it and eject it the correct way (use the icon in the system tray) and I'll bet its fine
[19:45] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: omg got it working, command was "gnome-session" (go figure)
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, You can run the check drives from a right click on them in computer in windows
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> stephen_noob: sweet, what will you do on the desktop now?
[19:46] <th4tcat> wilee-nilee: ubuntu isnt recognizing *any* drives including my disc drive
[19:46] <Stephen_Noob> ActionParsnip: I will look in awe as I admire my nooby genius :)
[19:47] <th4tcat> im looking for the storage thing on the unity panel
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> th4cat: id start with the storage, make sure its ok. also check usb is enabled in bios
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, Right but as suggested a chkdsk or the tool check in the computer right click in windows will probably get you going.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> th4cat: is it showing in nautilus
[19:48] <pfifo> Lyte101, might as well pastebin fstab too
[19:49] <becom33> after login in from my ubuntu login page it takes about a minit to get the desktop envirment load . Im not sure why can some one help ?
[19:50] <becom33> it started after I reinstalled my nVIDIA VGA
[19:50] <Lyte101> pfifo, only have a fstab it turns out: http://pastebin.com/wR4C37Xr
[19:51] <djono> us there a good track pad utility for ubuntu this new trackpad is killing me
[19:51] <th4tcat> ActionParsnip: it does not show up in nautilus
[19:52] <th4tcat> so i guess my next guess is to check the bios and report back thank you
[19:52] <pfifo> Lyte101, what about /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[19:53] <Lyte101> pfifo, don't have a /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> djono, You might explain your problem.
[19:55] <djono> the touch pad on it doesnt allow me to use two fingers. example index to click and middle to move the cursor
[19:56] <pfifo> Lyte101, sorry but your using LVM in a manner that Im not experienced with. I cant help :(
[19:56] <becom33> after login in from my ubuntu login page it takes about a minit to get the desktop envirment load . Im not sure why can some one help ? it started after I reinstalled Nvidia VGA
[19:57] <djono> btw its an acus
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> djono, I see a two finger scroll it just is using both fingers at once.
[19:59] <djono> i can scroll vertically like a mouse middle button. previous laptop i was able to keep me index near the bottom left and use the middle to move the cursor.
[20:00] <th4tcat> unforunately i cannot see any usb drives or disc drives in my bios but i can never see them anyway because i am unable to enter the advanced stages of bios. it is on an hp pavilion dv5000
[20:01] <TheGrey>  o/ My wifi keeps dropping. I have a Atheros chipset. But when it goes off I get r8168: eth0: link down. Should i blacklist this mod?
[20:02] <Lyte101> pfifo, alright thanks anyway tho
[20:02] <th4tcat> when i run fsck it looks like only /dev/sda1 is mounted
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, Have you right clicked the usb's in computer in windows then tools and run a check on them?
[20:03] <emad> hello < how can i backup my installed packages on ubuntu 12.04
[20:03] <emad> ?
[20:03] <Sazpaimon_> is there a reason why grub doesn't install the kernel and initramfs files in the EFI system partition?
[20:03] <th4tcat> i dont have windows on this machine
[20:03] <Afggh> Hi
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> emad, you can make a install list with  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[20:04] <Afggh> Hi all
[20:04] <daftykins> Afggh: still not helping you with Fedora, sorry
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, YOu will have to fix this from windows period.
[20:05] <Afggh> What will happen if i install ubuntu over dual boot if Fedora and win7?
[20:05] <Afggh> Will it manage everything itself?
[20:05] <daftykins> Afggh: you might have to tell it to use the fedora partitions manually and format them for itself
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, That is a confusing question, can you be more exacting.
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Is it that you want to replce fedora and W7 with ubuntu or add another OS?
[20:07] <Afggh> Actually i had win7 installed and i installed fedora along with it. Now i want ubuntu along with them.
[20:07] <pfifo> Is there a reason why some dev packages do not install a pkg-config *.pc file even thought if I compile and install manually from source I DO get a *.pc file installed? Its almost like debain/ubuntu is trying to obsolete pkg-config with something that dosent exist yet.
[20:07] <daftykins> Afggh: you could boot into Windows and resize its' partition to make more room for Ubuntu, then install.
[20:08] <poee> what issues does ubuntu have with nvidia graphics cards?
[20:08] <trism> pfifo: do you have an example?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Easy of you have unallocated space and can add more partitions. There are partition limitations in certain circumstances.
[20:08] <Afggh> Daftykins so it will make it triple boot itself?
[20:08] <daftykins> Afggh: yep should be fine
[20:09] <pfifo> trism, no I dont, im way outdated, SDL used to do this... and a few others.
[20:09] <Afggh> Okies...thanks a lot
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Afggh  backup first, in case something goes wrong
[20:09] <Afggh> Yeah...i already lost all my data yesterday
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, If I were you I would take a screen shot of gparted and post it, we have not determined the partition types there already, rather important info.
[20:11] <Afggh> Wilee-nilee i had 4 partitions in windows . I shrinked one of them to get 20 GB free space for fedora.
[20:11] <Afggh> Now fedora did whatever it wanted to with that 20 GB
[20:12] <Afggh> Well but i will post the screenshot before playing with partitions.
[20:13] <Afggh> I dont want to lose my data again.
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Can you take a screen shot of gparted in fedora and post it?
[20:13] <Afggh> Everything is so complicated.
[20:14] <Afggh> Wilee-nilee i dont have gparted. Will disk management screenshot from windows work?
[20:15] <Afggh> I will have to download gparted.
[20:15] <pfifo> Afggh, cant you just yum gparted?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, No, it will not show all the partitions, gparted is in the fedora repos.
[20:16] <Afggh> Pfifo i dont have broadband. Cant download from laptop.
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Or just boot the ubuntu disc and use its gparted, however as suggested earlier if you need to resize windows you want to use its disk manager
[20:17] <Afggh> Gparted for windows works?
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Not sure if the gparted for windows works for what we need, probably. THe goal here is to see exactly what is there and the types of partitions.
[20:19] <Afggh> Ok..i have ubuntu 13 live usb. I can boot through it and use gparted.
[20:19] <pfifo> wilee-nilee, fedora should have 'fdisk -l'
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, True, personally I like a picture.
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> honestly from the description, it looks like a lot of resizing and adding the ubuntu to an extended if that was made by the fedora install
[20:22] <Afggh> Means its gonna be difficult?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, For me no, you I would not know.
[20:22] <zissou> i want to make changes to a root owned file. dont know how to do that
[20:22] <daftykins> zissou: is it a configuration file?
[20:22] <zissou> yep, for apache
[20:22] <Afggh> Ofcourse no for you.
[20:23] <daftykins> zissou: sudo <name of your preferred text editor> /path/to/file
[20:23] <zissou> daftykins, tnx
[20:23] <Afggh> I dont know how people remember ubuntu commands.
[20:24] <citric> I need assistance from someone with experience with Eclipse+PyDev+ubuntu please :/
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, In general it is fairly easy, with correct info though we can get you going and you can learn this and move on to other stuff, you got this far and it can seem harder than it s.
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> is*
[20:26] <armin> so why is there a dnsmasq running by default in a fresh ubuntu installation?
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> ! details | citric state the problem
[20:26] <aminosamigos> hello is it possible to get some ubuntu one support in this channel ?
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> ! ask | aminosamigos
[20:27] <citric> wilee-nilee, do you use eclipse with pydev on ubuntu ?
[20:27] <pfifo> Afggh, its all in the procedural memory, our fingers just press the right key sequences on the cli cause weve done it a million times
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> citric, The channel works with you stating your problem, not asking for help this way.
[20:28] <citric> no point in stating my problem if people arent in my environment
[20:28] <jrib> citric: assume "yes"
[20:28] <citric> so I will wait untill someone does use eclipse+pydev+ubuntu this way I don't clutter that chat for no reason.
[20:29] <daftykins> citric: finding a channel where people use eclipse might be more fruitful than asking dev questions in an OS channel
[20:29] <jrib> citric: you actually don't care if someone is using your environment, you just care about the answer to your question.  Just ask your question and then we can see if we can answer it. There's no clutter, just ask the question on one line
[20:29] <citric> daftykins, thanks for your input but #ecplise is dead atm :)
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> citric  and maybe we can point you to the right channel
[20:31] <th4tcat> i would like to add my disc drive to fstab but i am not sure what the device directory is. i have looked in /dev/disk and i have multiple entries containing the same model number
[20:32] <jrib> th4tcat: have you mounted it?
[20:32] <th4tcat> can i just mount the entire directory on fstab
[20:32] <pfifo> citric, there is likely someone in here that is experienced with that combo, after all there is 1600 users here
[20:32] <th4tcat> it did not mount automatically
[20:32] <jrib> th4tcat: so it's not mounted?  Or you mounted it?
[20:33] <th4tcat> not mounted and i would like to add it to fstab so that i can mount it manually
[20:33] <th4tcat> because earlier i was having a problem where my ubuntu does not mount anything at all
[20:33] <oracleofdreams> hello, I'm having problems restore emails in evolution from backup.
[20:33] <jrib> th4tcat: in general, you use fstab to set it up so that it mounts automatically.  You don't need to use fstab if you want to mount it yourself
[20:33] <citric> pfifo, if they did they would have said something if they were here, right?
[20:33] <aminosamigos> I just upgraded to 13.04 and i had my documents and ubuntu one folders both synced i just logged in to ubuntu one what should i do to make it download from the cloud the old my documents folder ?
[20:34] <th4tcat> good to know, but it would be nice to have it mount automatically - in that case how can i mount it manually? because i need to burn a cd asap
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, Adding to fstab is not a manual mount per-say
[20:34] <th4tcat> all i get is /dev/disk/lots of stuff
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> or make that more possible
[20:34] <jrib> th4tcat: what does burning a cd have to do with anything?
[20:34] <th4tcat> i cannot burn a cd if my disc drive is not mounted
[20:35] <th4tcat> cd drive
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, You need to run a check on those usb's in windows.
[20:35] <th4tcat> i know wilee-nilee but i do not have windows on this notebook at all
[20:35] <th4tcat> and the cd drive is not a usb drive
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> th4tcat, That is your problem, we can't fix your problem from linux, you are wasting your time doing it.
[20:36] <jrib> th4tcat: you don't mount your cd drive.... Do you have /dev/dvdrw?
[20:36] <pfifo> citric, Im 2/3 the way there, i might know, been using eclipse for android dev recently.
[20:36] <th4tcat> oh
[20:36] <th4tcat> no
[20:37] <citric> pfifo, thanks, but thats java :P
[20:37] <pfifo> citric, yes, but I know python much better than java
[20:37] <th4tcat> when i do try to mount something it refuses to do it because it cannot find it in fstab or elsewhere
[20:37] <jrib> th4tcat: what are you trying to mount?
[20:37] <citric> pfifo, so you are familiar with PyDev and ubuntu then?
[20:38] <jrib> citric: just ask your question...
[20:38] <citric> jrib, i just did, thanks though
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> citric  ask your question so we can tell where to go
[20:38] <th4tcat> i tried to mount my usb drives manually but it said not found in fstab
[20:38] <th4tcat> so thats why i was trying to add them in fstab
[20:39] <jrib> citric: no you didn't.  Because you're going to ask another one once someone says "yes".  Even though replying "yes" doesn't mean they can help you
[20:39] <th4tcat> but my most important priority is to make ubuntu recognize my cd drive because i need to burn a cd
[20:39] <citric> jrib, you are flooding the channel :P
[20:39] <SecretFire> an mtp device was crashing my rhythmbox!
[20:39] <pfifo> citric, I dont use eclipse for python, so no, not really an expert with pydev
[20:39] <jrib> citric: yes, in an attempt to help you get help
[20:39] <citric> jrib, im good, thanks.
[20:39] <pfifo> hence 2/3
[20:39] <th4tcat> stupid ubuntu i never saw anything that said "safely remove usb drive"
[20:40] <Random832> th4tcat: it's the eject button in the file manager
[20:40] <pfifo> th4tcat, theres an eject button on pcmanfm in lubuntu
[20:40] <th4tcat> i should just reformat with debian and use mate desktop
[20:41] <Random832> ⏏  is the universal symbol for eject
[20:41] <pfifo> th4tcat, can always tri-boot :)
[20:41] <th4tcat> dual boot sure
[20:41] <th4tcat> ubuntu is all that i am running
[20:42] <oracleofdreams> I'm very new to ubuntu, but I backed up my evolution emails and now I"m having a hard time trying to restore them back into evolution. I tried several workarounds in the forums, but they're not showing any emails or my mailbox folders.
[20:42] <oracleofdreams> the folders are not a factor, I just need the emails.
[20:43] <aminosamigos> I just upgraded to 13.04 and i had my documents and ubuntu one folders both synced i just logged in to ubuntu one what should i do to make the app download from the cloud the old my documents folder ?
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> citric  quote alis : "The place to discuss Ubuntu Python is with Debian/Ubuntu  Pythonistas in #debian-python on irc.oftc.net"
[20:49] <oracleofdreams> I tried to make a dummy account in evolution to pull back all my emails that were backed up, but that is not reading my back up emails at all.
[20:50] <oracleofdreams> all folders say that there were no files in the folders that showed up.
[20:51] <acovrig> I'm trying to record from my webcam to a file, and I am getting errors from ffmpeg and mplayer, but not VLC; from ffmpeg I get Cannot find a proper format for codec
[20:52] <acovrig> fswebcam says the pixel format is GRGB, how do I feed that into ffmpeg?
[20:53] <_nothing__> how to remove themes that we don't need?
[20:54] <_nothing__> example:i want just have one theme
[20:54] <_nothing__> only
[20:55] <pfifo> acovrig, ffmpeg and mplayer automatically use the right codec *IF* its installed... so you are likely missing the right codec
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> _nothing__  look in /usr/share/themes/ and in ~/.themes/
[20:56] <acovrig> pfifo, what codec do you think I need (I have video4linux2)
[20:56] <_nothing__> monkeydust thx
[20:57] <neogto> im having an issue with a pendrive
[20:57] <neogto> can anyone help me out
[20:58] <neogto> im having issues with installing ubuntu
[20:58] <neogto> >.,
[20:58] <neogto> i could use some help
[20:58] <acovrig> pfifo, I'm using 'ffmpeg -f v4l2 -r 25 -s 384x288 -c:v rawvideo -pix_fmt rgb24 -i /dev/video0 -vcodec libx264 out.mp4'
[20:58] <pfifo> acovrig, I think there is a codec pack in the multiverse, something like 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[20:58] <neogto> sooooo quite
[20:58] <neogto> >.<
[20:58] <neogto> i guess im not installing linux today
[20:59] <neogto> reminds me of the lack of chatting in yahoo lol
[20:59] <soy_el_p_> neogto: drop the bomb (problem/question) and somebody will help
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> neogto  ask your question
[21:00] <neogto> i have ubuntu 13.04 gnome on a pendrive
[21:00] <neogto> it boots
[21:00] <soy_el_p_> neogto: drop the bomb (problem/question) and somebody will help
[21:00] <acovrig> pfifo, do you know what codec specifically (I compiled ffmpeg myself to get fdk-aac and x264 support)
[21:00] <acovrig> when I run the above, I get [video4linux2,v4l2 @ 0x9e20f00] Cannot find a proper format for codec 'rawvideo' (id 14), pixel format 'rgb24' (id 2)
[21:00] <neogto> but gets session failed "gnome"
[21:00] <neogto> when it tryes to log in
[21:00] <neogto> when i run it from the drive
[21:00] <neogto> and i have to test it
[21:00] <pfifo> acovrig, no I dont, but for a webcam I suspect something very common like mpeg2
[21:00] <neogto> bfore i can install it
[21:01] <neogto> what do i do to fix it
[21:01] <pfifo> acovrig, that is raw uncompressed AVI (rawvideo rgb24)
[21:02] <pfifo> acovrig, which is built into ffmpeg, so your problem isnt a codec
[21:02] <acovrig> pfifo, 'ffmpeg -formats | grep mpeg' lists mpeg,mpeg{1,2}video,mpegts{,raw},mpegvideo
[21:02] <Afggh> Great...i am now struggling to send a file through Bluetooth. Fedora wontvlet me turn the visibility on.
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> neogto, Have you checked th md5sum on the ISO?
[21:03] <pfifo> acovrig, try 'mplayer tv://0' and see if you get a feed
[21:03] <neogto> i have not
[21:03] <neogto> im a newb
[21:03] <neogto> lol
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> ! md5sum
[21:03] <acovrig> pfifo, ffmpeg -pix_fmts | grep -i rgb doesn't show grgb which v4l-ctl --list-formats-ext shows the pixel format to be
[21:03] <_nothing__> if we hungry can we put backery or some food from our monitor in ubuntu?
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> neogto  try not to press enter too often, so you can easily repeat your question
[21:04] <acovrig> pfifo, from mplayer: Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x47425247
[21:05] <_nothing__> how to compress size our system,?
[21:05] <acovrig> and v4l2: 2 frames successfully processed, 3 frames dropped.
[21:05] <Grmcrkrs> so, this is my very first time on an irc... anybody can tell me what to look for if my purpose is learning?
[21:06] <acovrig> pfifo, BTW: this is an *old* camera that came with a Windows Millennium Compaq system...
[21:06] <ManDay> Does launchpad have a "download archive from BZR" option?
[21:07] <tradater> Grmcrkrs:  google.com
[21:08] <tradater> Grmmcrks: what are you looking for?
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> Grmcrkrs  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[21:09] <Grmcrkrs> MonkeyDust: pretty much...
[21:09] <Grmcrkrs> yeah, trying to learn the ins and outs of Linux/Ubuntu
[21:11] <neogto> im doing the hash ceck like u said
[21:11] <neogto> and it matched
[21:11] <neogto> and i used the tool for formating the pendrive
[21:11] <zissou> how to add a quicklist shortcut?
[21:11] <neogto> that was suplied on ubuntu's website
[21:11] <neogto> but im cannot log into the live cd
[21:11] <neogto> i^
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> zissou  add what list and where?
[21:12] <zissou> i want to have run as root in the quicklist for nautilus
[21:12] <soy_el_pulpo> neogto: have you tried with a cd/DVD insteas of a usb drive?
[21:12] <neogto> it gives me session failed "gnome"
[21:12] <neogto> i dont have any
[21:12] <neogto> its jsut the gnome shell loading
[21:12] <tradater> Grmcrkrs : a little more specific would be helpfull
[21:12] <neogto> idk if its the case
[21:12] <soy_el_pulpo> neogto: have you tried with 12.04 LTS image?
[21:12] <neogto> i have nto should i try it?
[21:12] <neogto> i want one that works is all
[21:13] <neogto> i have to get into the desktop
[21:13] <neogto> so i can test the network driver
[21:13] <neogto> then i can go an install it
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> !info nautilus-scripts-manager | zissou
[21:13] <Grmcrkrs> tradater: right, well the thing is I don't know what I need to know. I'm currently learning my way around the system, like apt-get and how to change passwords etc.
[21:13] <neogto> once i know it will work
[21:13] <neogto> so 12.04 ubunutu?
[21:13] <neogto> and dont update?
[21:14] <soy_el_pulpo> 12.04 is fine
[21:14] <Grmcrkrs> tradater: Is this a place people come with their problems, or like a place to talk about cool stufff they found, or what just random stuff?
[21:14] <soy_el_pulpo> no updte, test your stuff
[21:14] <neogto> they have a 12.04 gnome right?
[21:14] <neogto> i cant run it as unity
[21:14] <neogto> my video would poop
[21:14] <soy_el_pulpo> neogto: why?
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Grmcrkrs: There's #ubuntu-offtopic , #kubuntu-offtopic , #xubuntu-offtopic , and #lubuntu-offtopic . #ubuntu- and #xubuntu-offtopic are the most common.
[21:15] <tradater> Grmcrkrs: every great journey starts with a single step
[21:15] <soy_el_pulpo> neogto: mae that is t reason wy you are getting te "gnome" error...
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> Grmcrkrs  the link i sent you explains a lot
[21:15] <b0n1> hey there! I am doing a "make" and i get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcrypto
[21:15] <tradater> Grmcrkrs: I don't know is my first time in these room either
[21:15] <b0n1> I have all libssl-dev libraries installed
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> tradater: See my above message to Grmcrkrs
[21:16] <Grmcrkrs> SonikkuAmerica: ok. I'll run that down. thanks
[21:16] <Grmcrkrs> tradater: thanks.
[21:16] <b0n1> when I search for libcrypto I get /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so this path. How can I add this .so file to the linker?
[21:17] <b0n1> do I have to add a line in the make file?
[21:17] <neogto> its an older laptop
[21:17] <neogto> im trying to drop it on it
[21:17] <neogto> so thgat it will run better
[21:18] <Grmcrkrs> SonikkuAmerica: ok, so when you say you sent me a link... I only see that MonkeyDust sent me a link... you and he are the same? or...
[21:18] <_nothing__> how to manualy remastering current our ubuntu version after we diet it?
[21:18] <tradater> Grmcrkrs: you can use the man function man function to get helpfull information: type man (command)
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Grmcrkrs: I didn't send you a link. MonkeyDust did.
[21:19] <Grmcrkrs> SonikkuAmerica: ok, sorry. I missunderstood
[21:20] <kubotsu> how to make Evolution display images in messages?
[21:21] <tradater> Grmcrkrs: man apt-get
[21:22] <spork> login and password for lubuntu 13.04 on intial boot?
[21:22] <kubotsu> spork: your user
[21:23] <mccartney> can someone recommend a good dvd burner ? i need to burn iso to dvd
[21:25] <daftykins> mccartney: what OS are you in now? most come with a tool.
[21:26] <mccartney> currently i am in ubuntu 13.04. it has brasero? but im afraid it wont burn correctly it only has 2 stars
[21:27] <TLoFP> i just agot the fatal error: grub install /dev/sda1 failed any idea what that means (occured during install)
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, What is sda1?
[21:29] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: that is my hdd
[21:29] <mccartney> daftykins: i purchased a copy of windows 7 for the wife online. was a download in iso. so i need to burn it correctly
[21:30] <daftykins> mccartney: sure, but what's the OS you're running right now?
[21:30] <mccartney> daftykins: i think its ubuntu 13.04 the newest one
[21:31] <daftykins> mccartney: just double clicking an ISO might well give a writing program straight off then
[21:32] <zykotick9> TLoFP: actually sda1 is your first partition... sda is the drive.
[21:32] <daftykins> mccartney: although if you have a flash drive that would be nicer
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, sda1 is a partition sda is the HD
[21:33] <mccartney> daftykins: it does , its <brasero>. it only has 2 stars, and i need the disk to be perfect. its a double layer dvd. im currently in service so dvd supplys are limited
[21:33] <TLoFP> zykotick9: wilee-nilee: sda1 is the partition which held the windows bootloader
[21:34] <daftykins> mccartney: 7 is only ~3.5GB so you don't need a dual layer disc to write it. also enable 'verify' if you can
[21:34] <TLoFP> I wanted to replace the windows bootloader with grub, allowing me to boot into Windows (which lives on sda2) or Ubuntu, which lives on SD card
[21:34] <billy_> whats the best channel to go to for help with some html scripting
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, Don't you have a uefi setup?
[21:35] <mccartney> daftykins: i know but its all my naighbor had. im active duty and theres not much for recourses here on base.
[21:36] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: don't knwo what that is
[21:36] <daftykins> mccartney: righty-o
[21:36] <tradater> billy_ :  try #html
[21:36] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: I can not boot from sd card
[21:37] <mccartney> daftykins: ill try the built in one i guess. thank you for the reply. first time ever in 6 years on xchat lol
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, I would like to see the bootinfo summary generated by the bootrepair app to see what is up.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> ! bootinfo
[21:38] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: I wouldn't know how to access that
[21:38] <TLoFP> I can't run the script if I can't boot into the OS, can I?
[21:38] <daftykins> mccartney: hehe, np - good luck
[21:39] <TLoFP> i can run it form a live boot, but would that help?
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, What you have described makes little sense, so without asking 100 question this script will show a lot of info that will get to the heart of the problem and what you actually understand.
[21:40] <billy_> thanks
[21:41] <billy_> join #html
[21:41] <isn0rt>   /
[21:41] <tradater> billy_   : /join #html
[21:42] <tradater> billy_  /join #html
[21:47] <mikodo> I am thinking of installing Windows 7 too, on a new  singular new HD, I am going to install. I am going to use a /mnt/DATA partition to sym-link to other distros. For Windows, should I have the DATA partition in NtFS? Would that be a problem for linux distros to read, and would it be hard to symlink the DATA to Windows? I know nothing of Windows. If not, does anyone have any guides pointing to this for windows?
[21:49] <billy_> hi can someone tell me how i can align the navbar to center on this http://pastebin.com/8ELmnpsw
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> TLoFP, Here is the bootrepair app it can be run from the live cd/usb, just run the bootinfo summary and post and save the url of the script. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  You described an error with loading grub to the sda1 windows boot partition, that is problematic along with your description as to why. However you said yesterday you wanted the ubuntu on the sd to run as a cli so I
[21:49] <wilee-nilee>  think your are more than able to do this.
[21:49] <daftykins> billy_: i think you clicked on the wrong channel, this is #ubuntu
[21:50] <Afggh> Help!! I messed up...deleted fedora partitions thinking i will be able to boot into windows recovery and now i am stuck.
[21:50] <Ben64> Afggh: try ##windows
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Do you have a windows recovery or install disc/usb
[21:50] <Guest64149> join #perl
[21:50] <Afggh> I have ubuntu live usb.
[21:51] <zissou> why does gnome terminal close when i click away? how to prevent this
[21:51] <afflicto> Hey all. I have a laptop with win 7 on it, the HDD has 2 partitions tho. One of them are empty. Can I install ubuntu on that or do I need to re-install windows as well?
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, JUst install the ubuntu in the place fedora was and you will have windows access through grub.
[21:51] <Afggh> I had recovery partition that came with my laptop but cant even getvinto it
[21:51] <Afggh> Ohk...thanks a lot. I will try
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, And make a recovery disc from windows when you get in.
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> that disc would be all you need right now to fix windows
[21:53] <kubotsu> to change message body image display behaviour: edit>preferences>mail preferences>html messages
[21:53] <kubotsu> evolution *
[21:53] <tonyr2k8> P0w3ru53r
[21:53] <kubotsu> then select 'always load images from the internet'
[21:54] <Afggh> I thought the recovery partition is for such situations.
[21:54] <Afggh> But it is not even coming into play
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, the recovery partition is usually a image of the purchased windows, the disc gets you access to it and the windows command line and repairs ...etc
[21:55] <Afggh> Hmm...but its useless if i cant boot into it.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, If you install ubuntu you wll be in with grub and can make the recovery disc. I had a acer that allowed me to boot the recovery for XP from grub as well.
[21:57] <Afggh> Ok should i select install ubuntu along windows and it will take care of partitions?
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, IF you had the disc you would just boot it to the command line and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr and windows would now boot.
[21:58] <Afggh> Hmm..but i dont have.
[21:59] <Afggh> I am goin with the first option. Install alongside windows
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Yeah, it should put it where fedora was. I'm just telling you what that recovery disc would do for you rather then having to reinstall a linux to get grub.
[21:59] <jnewt> I need help getting wifi working on my dell d620 laptop.  i've been following several forum questions, but when i try to install or remove the kernel module or do modprobe, the commands don't complete.  it says it may take awhile, but 10-15min and it's still running (can see via ps aux | grep )
[22:00] <Afggh> Ok...i will make a recovery disc after installing ubuntu.
[22:00] <jnewt> do i kill the processes that are running and try again or let them keep trying
[22:00] <histo> Afggh: I would make a recovery disk first incase something goes wrong
[22:00] <IdleOne> Afggh: recovery disc won't work if you can't make it after installing because you lost your windows install
[22:01] <histo> jnewt: what chipset is your wireless
[22:01] <b0n1> hey there! I am trying to install a programm that needs the crypto c library. It should be contained in the openssl lib , but I always get /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcrypto when I do "make"
[22:01] <histo> Afggh: Actually I should rephrase that. You should make a recovery disk before installing. I wouldn't even have windows installed period
[22:02] <freddofrog> so I've got a networking problem that I hope someone can help me with....
[22:02] <histo> !find lcrypto
[22:02] <b0n1> strangely the libcrypto.so file is not in my /usr/lib dir. It is in the /lib/i386-linux-gnu dir
[22:02] <histo> !ask | freddofrog
[22:02] <histo> !find libcrypto.so | b0n1
[22:02] <Afggh> Histo before installing fedora or ubuntu?
[22:02] <histo> !find libcrypt0.so | b0n1
[22:03] <b0n1> I already installed libssl-dev
[22:03] <histo> Afggh: Yes create a windows recovery disk first, if you value windows at all. Unless you have a factory recovery partition than there is no need. I don't use windows so I can't help you there.
[22:03] <Afggh> But i already messed up histo.
[22:03] <histo> b0n1: dpkg -S libcrypto.so
[22:04] <b0n1> I created a link from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so to the file in /lib/i386-linux-gnu, but doesnt work
[22:04] <histo> Afggh: ahh well then.. not much you can do
[22:04] <freddofrog> I've got two virtual machines connected together via a bridge... A <--br1--> B. A and B can both ping each other, B can connect to A (eg. ssh) but if I try and connect to B from A I get "no route to host" .. any suggestions?
[22:04] <mikodo> Will 2 platter drives in  a tower need more than 350 watt power supply. I have just the one drive now. I don't anything CPU intensive. Here is my machine only modifications to that is that I have 4 gib of RAM:http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=1
[22:04] <Afggh> Ok i am installing ubuntu now. Atleast my system will boot.
[22:05] <jnewt> histo: i've got the broadcom 1390 wlan mini card internal with the 4311 controller
[22:05] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: pastebin.com/LLt0RV68
[22:05] <sarge1221> when i run add-apt-repository it says "python-software-properties is already the newest version.
[22:05] <sarge1221> python-software-properties set to manually installed.
[22:05] <sarge1221>  How can I fix this problem?
[22:06] <histo> !broadcom | jnewt
[22:06] <b0n1> histo, a dpkg-S libcrypto.so told me that there is also a file libssl-dev: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so
[22:07] <b0n1> I linked it too doing ln -s /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8
[22:07] <histo> b0n1: I would create a link to that whereever you need it
[22:07] <b0n1> without success...
[22:07] <jnewt> histo: yes, that's one of the ones i tried to fallow.  the bcmwl-kernel source command never completes
[22:07] <histo> jnewt: what is the error when you install that package?
[22:08] <jnewt> histo: no error, it just says it's complete, then never kicks back to the prompt.  ps aux shows it's still running
[22:08] <jnewt> if i kill that process, then try the modprobe, no error, no message, just runs
[22:09] <Afggh> I got my windows back :) thanks
[22:09] <b0n1> histo any suggestions?
[22:09] <Afggh> Ubuntu looks more beautiful than fedora
[22:09] <histo> jnewt: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source    package ... then rmmod whatever driver you currently have loaded if you lspci -k  and sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source.  Or you can just use the GUI additional drivers dialog
[22:09] <b0n1> /usr/bin/ld: Inkompatible /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../libcrypto.so wird übersprungen bei der Suche nach -lcrypto
[22:10] <sarge1221> anyone know how to fix> "sudo: add-get-repository: command not found"  "sudo: apt-get-repository: command not found" tried installing >"python-software-properties is already the newest version" and "python-software-properties set to manually installed." Any help please? :(
[22:11] <trism> sarge1221: add-apt-repository
[22:11] <histo> sarge1221: yea it's add-apt-repository
[22:12] <trism> sarge1221: also in newer versions it is in a different package
[22:12] <mikodo> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=1
[22:12] <trism> sarge1221: software-properties-common
[22:14] <jnewt> histo: how long should that purge command take?
[22:15] <mikodo> I have to go. bye
[22:16] <sarge1221> Thanks guys i got handbrake installed finally. :)
[22:16] <JainAmber> Hello
[22:17] <JainAmber> What is the recommended way to change a user's password with password provided in plaintext on command line?
[22:17] <histo> jnewt: few seconds
[22:17] <jnewt> yeah, still running.  something's not right.
[22:17] <sarge1221> one last question if I may. Could someone direct me to a scripting tutorial. I would like to see if one could make a script to run rkhunter, root kit scanner, and clamav from terminal tabs by executing from a script.
[22:18] <histo> JainAmber: you'd have to pass the pass to the crypt stuff to /etc/passwd   Why would you want to do this?
[22:18] <JainAmber> histo, I need to do this to auto-change the password for postgres user in a Vagrant vm... not going to use this for production purpose.
[22:19] <histo> JainAmber: just passwd postgres
[22:21] <JainAmber> histo, with 'passwd postgres', user will need to type the password manually. I instead want to setup this up automatically. When vagrant sets up a vm, it runs a script automatically after VM boots up and I want to add a command to this script to change the password to a predefined string.
[22:21] <histo> JainAmber: you can use mkpasswd something to get the cyrpt frontend
[22:22] <histo> JainAmber: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/add-a-user-with-password-without-prompt-156676/
[22:22] <histo> JainAmber: something like usermod blah blah -p 'mkpasswd something'
[22:22] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: ran boot-repair, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5749903/
[22:23] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: now my computer does not boot from disk, only from live cd
[22:24] <TLoFP> wilee-nilee: the error is that 29f02103-2b47-42b0-9031-d276134b89b1 can not be found
[22:25] <JainAmber> Thanks histo!
[22:27] <aum> hi - just installed ubuntu 12.04LTS - cannot change wallpaper or enable launcher autohide - is there a workaround?
[22:30] <jnewt> so it's frozen doing that burge at update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-32-generic.  what should i do?
[22:31] <keke-lulz> aum: i, think, my good sir, you're using live-cd, so your settings does not save after reboot, so your wallpaper resets to default!
[22:32] <Dr_willis> :)  i recall ages ago disrtos that could write their changes back  to a cd+RW :)   Never did figure out how they did it..
[22:33] <elisa87> I followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-up-fails-drops-to-initramfs-prompt-12-04 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#A2nd_option_:_install_Boot-Repair_in_Ubuntu yet no success and I see busybox initramfs prompt when I reboot !!! I Linux is in /dev/sda5 and here's some more info  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5749948/
[22:33] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  been at this for 2 days now?
[22:34] <keke-lulz> Dr_willis: yeah-yeah, good ol'times, install linux to msdos fat, then look through tons of documentation to setup dial-up connection
[22:34] <Dr_willis> keke-lulz,  actually i think this one used some sort of open second session on the cd.. I cant even rember the disrto. :)   msdos fs trick. the  precursor to WUBI ;P
[22:34] <elisa87> Dr_willis: this is the second day! I performed fsck on /dev/sda5 it was successfully done after fixing all those problems but when I reboot I was dropped to initramfs prompt :| any idea?
[22:35] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  not really. i havent had to right with grub in ages.
[22:35] <Dr_willis> and what issues ive had - boot-repair always fixed
[22:35] <Dr_willis> I also tend to keep linux on its own second hard drive.
[22:36] <TKing> Please is anyone using Lenovo U410? i have screwed my new laptop while trying to install ubuntu? now i cant get any OS  to work. Cant install windows7/8 and ubuntu? please i need original BIOS setup i am begging
[22:37] <Dr_willis> TKing,  the windows restore dvd set dosent even work?
[22:37] <Dr_willis> What have you done to the bios?
[22:37] <Sazpaimon_> is there a reason why grub doesn't install the kernel and initramfs files in the EFI system partition?
[22:38] <Dr_willis> well ive seen  the kernel files and stuff take up several hunderd mb befor.   what would it gain by putting them there?
[22:39] <TKing> Dr_willis it doesn't come with it, i have formated all drives SSD - used for intel response intel  Response tech and my HDD
[22:39] <daftykins> elisa87: how many times have you run through the installer from the liveCD? just once, then tried to fix things afterwards?
[22:39] <Dr_willis> TKing,  err.. if it was a windows machine.. it should of had a windows tool tio make the dvd set as one of the first things.
[22:40] <rantic> Hey everyone, this might sound like a dumb question but I just bought a beginners NAS box and I'm trying to figure out if Ubuntu is mounting my share with NFS or SMB? I do it through the file manager and I'm not sure where that information would be?
[22:40] <daftykins> rantic: most likely you're using SMB
[22:40] <Dr_willis> rantic,  look at the address its using (ctrl-l)   and id guess its samba
[22:40] <Dr_willis> you normally dont have user moiunting NFS on the fly like you do with samba
[22:41] <Dr_willis> if the NAS supports SSH, you could use sshfs also :)
[22:41] <tom[]> does a standard server 12.04lts not have any log rotarion configured?
[22:41] <daftykins> if you hate having high throughput
[22:41] <daftykins> tom[]: doubt it
[22:41] <daftykins> actually, i've seen multiple log files so maybe on some
[22:41] <Dr_willis> tom[],  id imagine it has log rotate allready set as a cron job.
[22:42] <TKing> Dr_willis, but now i want to start all over because i backed up my files so I believe i can reinstall  windows 8 using dvd, drivers and make pc like it was before so i can reinstall ubuntu using uEFI method
[22:42] <rantic> daftykins, Dr_willis: Thanks, it is indeed SMB. The real question now is SMB vs NFS. :D
[22:42] <tom[]> i would hope so but i suspect there's nothing
[22:42] <Dr_willis> TKing,  how are you going to reinstall windows 8 if you dont have a DVD restore/reinstall disk>
[22:42] <aum> keke-lulz: i installed off the live cd, and rebooted from my hard disk, but cannot change wallpaper or set launcher autohide
[22:42] <daftykins> rantic: at this point i'd recommend the old adage 'if it ain't broke...'
[22:42] <Dr_willis> TKing,  the people in #windows will know more about reinstalling windows also.
[22:42] <Dr_willis> rantic,  does the NAS even support NFS...
[22:43] <daftykins> TKing: obtain yourself a windows 8 DVD next then.
[22:43] <rantic> Dr_willis: Yes it has a big list of protocols, and both NFS and SMB were enabled. I was trying to disable one to save some memory.
[22:43] <aum> even 'qiv -z' and 'xsetbg' won't change the wallpaper - it's like the wallpaper gets covered by some other window
[22:43] <Dr_willis> aum,  what desktop/winmdow manager are you using?
[22:44] <aum> Dr_willis: have tried both Unity and Unity 2D - same problem
[22:44] <TKing> daftykins Dr_willis i have windows cd
[22:44] <TKing> dvd
[22:44] <Dr_willis> aum,  why are you using those 2 tools and not the normal background/wallpaper change setting tool?
[22:44] <aum> Dr_willis: because the normal background/wallpaper change setting tool has no effect
[22:45] <Dr_willis> aum,  try making a new user, see if it works for them as a test
[22:45] <aum> Dr_willis: ok, bbiab
[22:46] <tom[]> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles#Log_Rotation says logrotate is the default utility, that "you may encounter" rotated, zipped logs but it's ot installed on my new server install
[22:46] <tom[]> very odd
[22:47] <mojtaba> Hi, I have connected another monitor to my laptop. How can I assign a workspace to that monitor?
[22:49] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I do that? Now all of my workspaces have been duplicated.
[22:50] <mojtaba> hello?
[22:50] <mojtaba> anybody there?
[22:51] <mrekko> yes
[22:55] <aum> tried as a different user, can set wallpaper and auto hide, but can't as my normal user
[22:58] <boairc> does the linux full disk encryption support Intel AES-NI hardware acceleration?
[22:58] <Afggh> Hi...my Bluetooth isnt working.
[22:58] <boairc> also, what is better TrueCrypt or default?
[22:58] <Afggh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/286834/bluetooth-not-working-in-ubuntu-13-04 will help?
[22:58] <mojtaba> aum: could you please explain more?
[22:58] <sere> why would the kernel and wine be held back from an upgrade?
[22:59] <EM15> How do I write for example an heart with ASCII? I mean alt + 3 (numpad)
[22:59] <aum> mojtaba: i just installed ubuntu 12.04LTS, kept my /home from an older linux mint, but everything else fresh. Can not set wallpaper or enable autohide of launcher. Created a different user - no problem
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> sere, Try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:59] <Afggh> There is a bluetooth option in settings but nothing happens from there.
[23:00] <Afggh> Hey wilee-nilee
[23:00] <sere> ty wilee-nilee
[23:00] <Afggh> I thought ubuntu has drivers preinstalled for everything.
[23:02] <Afggh> What does the message kvm: disabled by bios mean?
[23:03] <Afggh> It comes on startup on some black screen.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Not necessarily if generally available in the repos though unless it s for a fresh release hardware that has not been driver reversed
[23:04] <Afggh> What does that mean??
[23:04] <Afggh> I didnt get it.
[23:05] <kubotsu> !kvm
[23:06] <mojtaba> Does anybody know how can I assign a different workspace to the monitor which I have attached to my laptop? At the moment all the workspaces have been duplicated.
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Afggh, Not sure, I would check the sum of the disc, your description does not have context details.
[23:06] <Dr_willis> mojtaba, you can have extended workspaces across monitors
[23:07] <EM15> How do I insert @ with Alt + 64? Is there any complement to ASCII code?
[23:07] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: How can I set a workspace for a specific monitor instead of extending all workspaces?
[23:08] <Afggh> Wilee-nilee for what?
[23:08] <kubotsu> mojtaba: look in system settings>all settings>displays , uncheck the option 'mirror displays'
[23:10] <Afggh> While sending file through bluetooth it gives '' gdbus.error:openobex.error.failed:unable to request session''
[23:12] <citric> i installed ubuntu alongside of windows 8, although I do not have GRUB or any way to select OS, it just goes into ubuntu, how can i fix this?
[23:13] <benbloom> what is the best supported and currently recommended unification file system in ubuntu?
[23:14] <kubotsu> citric: there is hope if you can still see the windows partition
[23:14] <mojtaba> kubotsu: It is unchecked. But I want to assign a workspace to the monitor. and when moving between other workspaces in my laptop's display, the display in the monitor be there all the time.
[23:14] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  as far as i knwo.. you dont
[23:15] <mojtaba> :(
[23:15] <citric> kubotsu, i can still see the partition
[23:15] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  if you want a specific app always on the right side monitor.. make it always on top and 'sticky'
[23:15] <hydrox24> I've got issues with REALLY slow file transfew between partitions on my supposedly fast drive. One partition is smaller, ext4 and works fine, the other is quite large (it's a data partition) and ext3 formatted and I get transfer speeds of 18KB/s. It's ridiculous. How can I fix this/toubleshoot it?
[23:16] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Do you know how can I do that?
[23:16] <kubotsu> citric: then there are two possibilities, one: you need to reisntall windows MBR
[23:17] <citric> kubotsu, if i reinstall the MBR then I wont get ubuntu...
[23:17] <kubotsu> citric: two: you can try pressing ESC while booting see if you can get into grub
[23:18] <kubotsu> citric: however, reinstalling MBR and then reisntalling grub can be more work but its straight forward
[23:18] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  do what?
[23:18] <mojtaba> stick one application to one monitor.
[23:19] <Dr_willis> The default unity.compiz window manager does not do workspaces where the left/right side of an extended setup are differnt.. theya re ONE wide desktop
[23:19] <Dr_willis> you can use the  'always on top' and 'sticky' options in the windows settings to make one stay on the other side as i said earlier
[23:19] <Dr_willis> just watch out for windows that may popup UNDER the other app window
[23:19] <D-coy> o/
[23:19] <Dr_willis> i set up xbmc this way all the time
[23:20] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: suppose that I want to put chrome on. Is the option in the application menu?
[23:20] <Dr_willis> its in the windows setting menus.. right click around the title bar and look
[23:20] <deezed> Hey guys! Yesterday my graphical login screen stopped working, and now my login is only made by text. I have to do 'startx' to actually starts gui. I'm using here an Ubuntu 12.04 with kde 4 and the last thing I've updated was the java files...
[23:20] <Dr_willis> im not on ubuntu so cant spoon feed you exact GUI actions
[23:20] <deezed> do you know what can I do?
[23:20] <Toph2> in 12,04, how does backup work, I backup on schedule  onto a separate drive. It appears as though each backup creates its own file and doesn't erase the one from the time before,, my drive fills up
[23:20] <Dr_willis> sticky/always on top - has been a Linux (well X) feature for Decades.
[23:20] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Thank you very much
[23:21] <Dr_willis> sad that i have to use 3rd party tools to give windows the same feature. ;)
[23:21] <kubotsu> citric: option three: just reinstall grub or do sudo update-grub
[23:22] <Dr_willis> CCSM/Compiz has settings where you can auto set the sticky/ontop/positon of windows on creation also.
[23:22] <Dr_willis> i set my 'file copy' dialog to always be on top on the far left monitor
[23:22] <Pip> hellopat, anyone one on Dell XPS ?
[23:22] <SexyGirlG> dmmm
[23:22] <Dr_willis> Dell XPS - is a rather broad line of machines i think.
[23:23] <citric> it is
[23:23] <Pip> Lx502
[23:23] <citric> my dell xps laptop runs ubuntu
[23:23] <citric> l412z
[23:23] <Pip> Sandybridge i7 Quad-core
[23:23] <citric> mine is sandy bridge i5
[23:23] <Pip> The fan is crazily and weirdly rolling for no particular reason
[23:24] <citric> rolling? :/
[23:24] <Pip> Looks like the temperature sensor and fan control mechanism is dumb
[23:24] <Pip> spinning
[23:25] <Pip> You guys don't have such problem?
[23:25] <Pip> I use the stock kernel
[23:25] <kubotsu> Pip: schedule a dust cleanup
[23:25] <Pip> I don't think so
[23:25] <Dr_willis> some laptops have issues with fan control in some kernels/releases
[23:25] <Pip> It's a new and clean machine
[23:26] <kubotsu> then thats one less thing to worry about
[23:26] <Pip>  3.9.5-1
[23:26] <Dr_willis> due to various bugs.. Id check askubuntu.com and the forums for your EXACT make machine and see if others have the same issue and if they use any boot options
[23:26] <Sazpaimon_> How can I use gparted to move a partition that's of an unknown type?
[23:26] <Sazpaimon_> I just want to do a sector-by-sector move
[23:26] <Pip> I would say this is a universal issue for all Dell users
[23:27] <Pip> Sazpaimon_, delete it
[23:27] <Pip> Oh
[23:27] <Sazpaimon_> I'd rather not delete and re-create it if it can be avoided
[23:27] <Sazpaimon_> I just want to move it to the "right" of free space on the disk
[23:29] <deezed> Hey guys! Yesterday my graphical login screen stopped working, and now my login is only made by text. I have to do 'startx' to actually starts gui. I'm using here an Ubuntu 12.04 with kde 4 and the last thing I've updated was the java files...
[23:29] <Dr_willis> resize it to the right (grow it) then shrink it from the left. :) but that may take 2x as long.
[23:29] <Dr_willis> and if its  unknown.. that may not work
[23:29] <Dr_willis> what FS is it anyway?
[23:32] <hydrox24> deezed: look into turning off automatic login. if you're in ubuntu and not kubuntu, then your login manager would be ldm. Look at solutions for that.
[23:32] <deezed> hydrox24: no, my login manager is kdm, sure
[23:32] <Dr_willis> i was thinking lightdm was getting used by lubuntu these days.. but i may be wrong.
[23:33] <Dr_willis> sudo service kdm restart      to force kdm to restart perhaps?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> it may show some error messages if it has an issue
[23:33] <deezed> uhm, nice
[23:34] <deezed> Dr_willis: but should I do that now, or just when I reboot?
[23:34] <c|oneman> is there a difference between sudo su and typing sudo before each line?
[23:34] <Dr_willis> deezed,  it will force X to quit (or might) and restart the KDM service at any time
[23:34] <Dr_willis> c|oneman,  dont use 'sudo su'
[23:34] <Dr_willis> if you need a root shell use  'sudo -i'
[23:34] <zykotick9> c|oneman: don't use "sudo su" it leads to tears.  if you _must_, and you probably don't, use "sudo -i" instead.
[23:34] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[23:34] <c|oneman> so I should prepend sudo to every line?
[23:35] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:35] <deezed> Dr_willis: ok, thank you!!
[23:36] <c|oneman> is there an equivalent to typing sudo for each line
[23:37] <Sazpaimon_> Dr_willis, I can't resize it as gparted cannot recognize it (it's encrypted)
[23:37] <zykotick9> c|oneman: is this a script?  just run the script with sudo foo.sh perhaps?
[23:37] <c|oneman> no
[23:37] <Sazpaimon_> is the only way to decrypt the partition, move it, and then re-encrypt it?
[23:37] <c|oneman> this is me typing commands
[23:38] <zykotick9> c|oneman: you should probably just learn to put sudo before your commands that need root.  or, be bad, and run "sudo -i" to get a root prompt.
[23:38] <c|oneman> is there a difference other than soome bullshit "best practice" and "you will make a mistake"?
[23:39] <gordonjcp> c|oneman: best practice is to use sudo
[23:39] <Guest41628> Whats a good website for quickly uploading snapshots and sharing them via link?
[23:39] <gordonjcp> c|oneman: having a valid root login is obsolete, and has been so for about 20 years
[23:39] <alberto> hola
[23:40] <jrib> Guest41628: imgur
[23:40] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: ubuntu is 20 years old my friend...
[23:40] <c|oneman> I want to not have to type sudo more than once, and have 1:1 results as if I had.
[23:40] <gordonjcp> Guest41628: like screen grabs?  imgur, maybe?
[23:40] <zykotick9> s/is/isn't/
[23:40] <Guest41628> jrib,  Does it need an account?
[23:40] <jrib> Guest41628: nope
[23:40] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: first release of Ubuntu was 4.10
[23:40] <Guest41628> good
[23:40] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: in, uh, 2004 ;-)
[23:40] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: Ubuntu isn't even nine years old yet
[23:41] <c|oneman> when I sudo a command, does it run as me with elevated privileges, or as "root"
[23:41] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: sorry, perhaps you missed my correction there, i had meant "gordonjcp: ubuntu isn't 20 years old my friend..."
[23:41] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: yeah, and sudo is not unique to Ubuntu
[23:41] <Pip> c|oneman, depends on the sudo configuration file
[23:42] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: I can't remember which Unix I first used that had sudo, possibly SCO
[23:42] <zykotick9> gordonjcp: true, but i think ubuntu (and it's derives) are the only distro which "avoid" root account.
[23:42] <kubotsu> you're putting too much thought behind 'root' .. you need to read more wikis
[23:42] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: right
[23:42] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: but they should all avoid having a valid root account, realy
[23:42] <gordonjcp> *really
[23:42] <jeus> salam bache ha
[23:43] <gordonjcp> zykotick9: we got rid of a lot of horrible old cruft like a.out
[23:43] <gordonjcp> wny not root too?
[23:43] <jeus> hi .
[23:43] <jeremiah__> Alright, i am having an issue with dd/partition cloning.
[23:43] <gordonjcp> anyway, I'm off, nn all
[23:43] <jeus> i copy font ".ttf" into ~/.fonts .
[23:43] <jeus> then log out and login .
[23:44] <jeremiah__> So, after using dd, i got this in gparted http://imgur.com/BtSbfKB
[23:44] <jeus> but not show fonts in writer and other program
[23:44] <jeremiah__> IS that bad?
[23:45] <Techie-Micheal> Does anybody know anything about why 13.04 sets file ownership incorrectly on /var/log files? auth.log for example is empty and remains empty until I change ownership from messagebus:adm to syslog:adm. It's kinda important to have log files written to.
[23:45] <sere> jeus: sudo fc-cache -f -v .... will update the font cache so you dont have to restart
[23:45] <jeremiah__> So, anyone know much about partitions/dd?
[23:47] <jeus> sere, not work
[23:47] <jeremiah__> Nobody knows about partitions/dd/hdd cloning?
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> jeremiah__, Why are you using dd, is the HD its on going bad?
[23:48] <sere> jeus: not work? whats the error?
[23:48] <jeremiah__> No, i am upgrading my hdd.
[23:48] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  No, i am upgrading my hdd
[23:48] <jeus> sere, /home/jeus/.fontconfig: invalid cache file: 5c568772b6f555ec9101966aad8a986b-le32d4.cache-3
[23:48] <jeus> fc-cache: succeeded
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> jeremiah__, Do both HD's show in gparted?
[23:48] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  And i didn't want to loose all my work, and modifactions
[23:49] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee, yes. The issue is i get an error on the hdd i copied it onto in gparted
[23:49] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  See here: http://i.imgur.com/BtSbfKB.png
[23:49] <Techie-Micheal> This is a fresh install of 13.04. It also happens on upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04.
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> jeremiah__, You can copy and paste partitions between HD's on gparted. I am assuming the original is still there.
[23:49] <Ziber> On ubuntu 13.04, why does the screen go dim within just a few seconds if I'm not touching it?
[23:50] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  Yes, and i have tried that. Never seemed to work
[23:50] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  So, what does this error mean??
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> jeremiah__, No idea
[23:50] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  Erm, warning
[23:50] <sere> jeus: whats the font file name?
[23:50] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  Hmm...
[23:51] <jeus> sere, MitraUnicodeEdited.ttf
[23:51] <jeremiah__> wilee-nilee,  Well, lets all hope for the pest, and see if it boots. Is there anything i need to do after i clone partitions? Something about some sort of file i need to change or something?
[23:51] <jeremiah__> best*\
[23:53] <deezed> Dr_willis: hey, I just rebooted and ran sudo service kdm restart, and it has perfectly restarted. But when I rebooted again, the problem was still there. I think kdm is working, but isnt in automatic. Do you know how can I change it?
[23:53] <sere> jeus: check the output of that command and see what file is invalid..
[23:54] <jeus> sere, ok
[23:55] <jj123> I have a xorg.conf.d file which I don't believe is getting processed.  The Xorg.log says it's looking at the xorg.conf.d directory, but I don't see my settings applied.  If I put them into my xorg.conf file, they do get applied....any ideas?
[23:57] <niargh> On Precise - My laptop hibernates despite setting 'Do Nothing' when the lid is closed in the Power setting. Any suggestions?
[23:57] <zissou> how to find where are package's files installed?
[23:58] <Dr_willis> deezed,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm   be sure kdm is selected
[23:58] <sere> does rhythmbox still show album art in the bottom left?
[23:59] <neirpyc> Has support for intel cards gotten any better with 13.04?
[23:59] <jeus> sere, http://paste.ofcode.org/zt2RnuEPBX5APpcQSNGCSR , i can't know how find it