[00:11] <Quix86> xubuntu keeps trying to update zsnes, I don't want it to because the latest version doesn't work on 13.04
[00:11] <Quix86> how do I keep it from trying to update it? These notifications are annoying
[00:12] <Belial`> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-prevent-a-package-from-being-updated-in-ubuntu.html
[00:12] <Unit193> Quix86: Is there a bug reported about it not working?
[00:13] <Unit193> !pinning
[00:13] <Quix86> yeah there's one somewhere
[00:13] <Quix86> cba to look it back up I just want it to not update
[00:14] <Unit193> Sure, good enough for me.
[01:21] <configx> Hey all. Just installed 13.04 and I'm loving it. One minor thing though...how why does bluetooth icon show twice? See what I mean --> http://i.imgur.com/84LUnUO.png
[01:23] <configx> Looks like the black one is in the notification area and the light one is in the indicator plugin?
[01:34] <configx> Nevermind, I figured it out. One was the Blueman applet (light) and the other was the Bluetooth applet (dark). I disabled the bluetooth one.
[02:31] <dunpeal> Hi. I just installed 13.04 on a desktop, but it won't boot.
[02:31] <dunpeal> /dev/sdg1   *        2048    31256575    15627264    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[02:32] <dunpeal> Apparently, "/dev/sdg1" is the boot partition.
[02:32] <dunpeal> Not sure what that even is (it's a new desktop)
[05:32] <xubuntu582> Why doesn't linux ask for my password to login when I start the computer?
[05:32] <Unit193> Because you set it not to when you installed?
[05:33] <xubuntu582> I just changed it so that it is forced to ask for it.
[05:34] <xubuntu582> Looking at it now it says: "Password: Asked on login"
[05:39] <xubuntu582> Nobody knows?
[05:39] <cfhowlett> xubuntu582, did you reboot?
[05:40] <xubuntu582> Yes I've tried restarting, shutting down, and logging out and shutting down. Same result
[05:40] <Unit193> Should edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[05:42] <oxez> Hello. I installed 13.04 (x86-64) on a laptop, installation went smooth, except it didn't install any boot loader, and so Windows' is loading up instead of grub. Is there a way to run the grub-install script on the livecd so I don't have to go through the install process all over again? (I assume that under normal conditions, the GRUB setup detects windows partition automatically?) thanks
[05:42] <xubuntu582> [SeatDefaults] autologin-user=user autologin-user-timeout=0 autologin-session=lightdm-autologin greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter user-session=xubuntu
[05:44] <Unit193> oxez: Yep, by using chroot you can install it just fine.
[05:45] <Unit193> oxez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[05:45] <oxez> Unit193: Yea I know I can chroot and do it myself, I should rephrase my question: Is there a script that xubuntu runs to setup grub all automagically that I cxan execute?
[05:45] <oxez> Ah, maybe I'll find something in that page, thank you
[05:46] <Unit193> Sure.
[05:52] <Os_Maleus> hi all!
[05:53] <Os_Maleus> does somebody know how to split a multilayer tiff-file into single picture files (tiff, jpeg or jpg)?
[05:53] <Noob2174> wow....chances of getting a question answered here are good?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !details|Noob2174,
[05:55] <Noob2174> Very "Simple" I want to be able to type in Chinese in my computer, other computer have a fast toggle between languages...is this something I have to set, or is there a default that I have to click on?
[05:55] <Os_Maleus> correction of my question: does somebody know how to split a multilayer tiff-file into single picture files (tiff, jpeg or jpg) *on the command line*?
[05:55] <Noob2174> SOrry...Xubunu 13.04
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Noob2174, you probably have to install the language pack ... BUT have you consider ubuntukylin?  distro specially designed for the Chinese user ...
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Noob2174, official canonical/ubuntu product, fully supported
[05:57] <Noob2174> cfhowlett I'm an american user...just started learning chinese (& ubunutu) ;) just want ot be able to keep up my srudies on the Xubunut machine
[05:57] <Noob2174> (sorry, spelling)_
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Noob2174, ah.  ok.  i think language packs are in the software center
[05:59] <Noob2174> sweet...I'll go check them out! Thanks for your help! Many good vibes being sent your way! cfhowlett!
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Noob2174, have fun, be safe
[05:59] <Os_Maleus> Noob2174: Keyboard Layouts Plugin is a plug-in for the taskbar, which shows You the activated language output of Your keyboard.
[05:59] <Noob2174> Ahhh....that would be really useful too
[06:00] <Noob2174> [nods to Os_Maleus]
[06:00] <Os_Maleus> I have configured the settings for shortcuts over scripts to change between the keyboard layout.
[06:01] <Noob2174> ah...
[06:01] <Noob2174> I'll look into that as well
[06:03] <Noob2174> Thanks Open Source Gods!
[06:04] <Os_Maleus> no one there with experiences in splitting a multilayer tiff-file into single picture files (tiff, jpeg or jpg) on the command line?
[06:04] <oxez> So after install grub with boot-repair, I'm stuck at the splash screen on the first boot. Surely this is not normal behavior..?
[06:05] <oxez> Pressing up-arrow, and it tried to load  "Bonjour remote printer browsing daemon", nothing else after that
[06:12] <dunpeal> Hi. How do I rename a panel?
[06:12] <dunpeal> e.g. I have a "Panel 2", I'd like to rename it to "Panel 1
[12:49] <silicon> hello. Would anyone be adept in reading bootcharts to reduce boot times ?
[13:05] <Mortvert> Oh hello.
[13:05] <Mortvert> I'm getting 'no route to host' on local network for whatever reason
[14:20] <juan_> hi all, i cant use skype in xubuntu 12. this works only 4 me?
[16:38] <pii3> hi
[16:39] <pii3> i have xubuntu installed
[16:39] <pii3> and ihave all my drivers mounted and i have their icon on my desktop!
[16:39] <pii3> How can i hide theme from desktop?
[16:56] <aiena> Is anyone successfully using gnash with xubuntu 12.04?
[17:05] <Aiena1> I am sortoff irritated with flash atm
[17:05] <Aiena1> brb reboot
[17:29] <b3rz3rk3r> hey guys, im getting tearing on the proprietary nvidia drivers. does anyone know how to fix it?
[17:30] <Belial`> the native compositor doesn't do opengl.
[17:30] <Belial`> the only way to get rid of the tearing is to use something like compton.
[17:31] <b3rz3rk3r> Belial`, only thing that is coming up for that is on arch
[17:32] <b3rz3rk3r> could you give me a howto link?
[17:32] <Belial`> which version of xubuntu?
[17:32] <Belial`> 12.04, 12.10, or 13.04?
[17:32] <xubuntu522> 13.04
[17:33] <xubuntu522> HOW MASTERIZZE ISO FILE IS OVER 700MB?
[17:33] <Belial`> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468
[17:33] <b3rz3rk3r> 13.04 Belial`
[17:33] <Belial`> follow that.
[17:33] <b3rz3rk3r> ty
[17:33] <xubuntu522> OK TANKS
[17:33] <pii3> Hi agian
[17:34] <pii3> i sortcut to all my partitions and drives on my xubuntu desktop how can i hide them ?
[17:35] <elfy> settings manager - desktop - icons - select from default icons
[17:37] <pii3> elfy, i have Home, Trash and File system but i can just hide xubuntu file system i have other partition and disk on my computer
[17:38] <Belial`> pii3, what happens when you uncheck removeable drives?
[17:38] <elfy> then select removable devices then
[17:51] <b3rz3rk3r> Belial`, Compton works fantastic! No more tearing! :D
[17:52] <b3rz3rk3r> Belial`, thanks for the help, so happy!
[18:00] <pii3> ahh cool works
[18:00] <pii3> what is the different of desktop and alternate ?
[18:10] <Belial`> b3rz3rk3r, np
[18:37] <Janeks991> good day
[18:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there any way (in !Studio btw) to disable the touch pad while typing in XFCE settings?
[18:57] <xubuntu363> Hi all. I need some help please.... My Desktop is now showing the contents of my home folder. Don't know how that happened but would love to revert to my original Desktop folder. Any ideas? Thx
[19:39] <b3rz3rk3r> I've installed openvpn but I'm only seeing PPTP under VPN options in the network manager. How do I fix this?
[19:44] <flux242> b3rz3rk3r: are you missing openvpn plugin for the networkmanager?
[19:44] <koegs> b3rz3rk3r: install network-manager-openvpn
[19:45] <b3rz3rk3r> yup that was the problem, thanks guys!
[20:10] <Aiena> Is there a way to set an alarm/timer to beep in 30 minutes for linux from terminal or do I need an app if so can someone suggest a good one
[20:11] <Sysi> sleep 1800 [vlc|mplayer|aplay] /path/to/file
[20:12] <Aiena> there no system beep?
[20:12] <Aiena> cnat i call sleep 1800 beep(freq)
[20:12] <David-A> Aiena: in terminal:  sleep 30m && printf "\a"  (if motherboard speaker is enabled)
[20:12] <xubuntu376> salve a tutti. ho un problema con skype. esso non si avvia, ma crash. Ho un pc vecchio.
[20:13] <xubuntu376>  Hello everyone. I have a problem with skype. it does not start, but crash. I have an old pc.
[20:13] <xubuntu376> please help me
[20:14] <Sysi> Aiena: it seems there is a »beep« command
[20:15] <Aiena> there was a beep in windows
[20:15] <Aiena> I used to have fun messing with it
[20:15] <David-A> Aiena: if you have sox installed you can use the "play" command and synthesise sounds, e.g. ''play -q -n synth 3 pluck''
[20:16] <Aiena> cool sox seems lightweight
[20:17] <flux242> (sleep 30m; dd if=/dev/urandom | aplay) &
[20:19] <David-A> flux242: will that ever stop playing? (could be a bit annoying)
[20:20] <flux242> killall aplay
[20:20] <Aiena> David-A: flux solution is awesome annoying and easy to rememeber
[20:21] <Sysi> or don't use & just hit ctrl C
[20:21] <Aiena> hmm ctrl c works well to stop it
[20:21] <Aiena> benefits of terminal
[20:22] <Aiena> IU wonder if the noise is bad for the ears though flux242 is white noise generated too?
[20:22] <Aiena> and can i replace /dev/urandom with path to a file?
[20:22] <Aiena> and have it loop over
[20:23] <David-A> Aiena: I assume you will read the man page of play to find out different synth sounds and how to customize freq, duration, fadeout, and such
[20:23] <Sysi> you need to use some player unless you want to hear the raw bytes
[20:23] <Aiena> Thanks
[20:24] <xubuntu376> can you help me
[20:24] <Sysi> piping a file directly to aplay could sound interesting
[20:24] <cesarflores>  vvvvvvvvvvvvv
[20:25] <flux242> check this out http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/tagged/1195/aplay
[20:26] <David-A> Aiena: to play wav and mp3 and things like that, you could use "play", or "vlc" or "mplayer" as suggested above, or "mpg123"
[20:26] <Aiena> play is very powerful
[20:26] <Aiena> David-A: I need your help though
[20:27] <David-A> Aiena: to loop an mp3 forever in mplayer, use ''-loop 0'' option
[20:27] <Aiena> play -n synth sin plays a long even beep which is good enough for this purpose but is there a way to make the beep choppy like an alarm?
[20:27] <Aiena> not sure how that is done
[20:30] <Aiena> is it possible to break up a synth sound the manualjust gives suggested uses but is not very clear
[20:33] <nest34> ls -a
[20:34] <xubuntu376>  Hello everyone. I have a problem with skype. it does not start, but crash. I have an old pc.
[20:34] <David-A> Aiena: try ''play -q -n synth 3 sine 200-400'' then change "200-400" to "400-200", change "3" to "1", and change "sine" to "sawtooth"
[20:35] <Aiena> hmm all play one contiguous sound
[20:36] <Aiena> i want to break up the sound at say one second and have play loop that one second synthesized output with a 1 second delay
[20:36] <Aiena> the manual is very vast
[20:36] <Aiena> *have "play" loop...
[20:37] <Aiena> any suggestions David-A
[20:38] <Aiena> it is like " play -n synth sin (freq)"  for 1 second then 1 second delay then  "play-n synth sin (freq)" again for 1 second in a loop
[20:38] <David-A> Aiena: something like this?   for i in 1 2 3 4; do play -q -n synth 0.8 sine 400-800; sleep 1; done
[20:39] <Aiena> great
[20:39] <Aiena> thanks
[20:40] <David-A> Aiena: change sleep 1 to sleep 0.8, it sounds better
[20:40] <Aiena> oh great so the 0.8 is the time period for the beep great
[20:40] <Aiena> and sleep 1 is the delay
[20:40] <Aiena> awesome
[20:40] <Aiena> and can the for loop be written as for i in 1..4 ?
[20:41] <Aiena> 1 to 4 works
[20:41] <Aiena> :)
[20:42] <David-A> Aiena: bash has a syntax {1..4} that will be expanded to 1 2 3 4, but dont use that for thousands of iterations
[20:42] <Aiena> Ok
[20:42] <Aiena> it doesnt work here for some reason
[20:42] <Aiena> however specifying "for i in 1 to 4"
[20:42] <Aiena> does work
[20:42] <Aiena> sp will stick with that
[20:43] <Aiena> *so
[20:43] <David-A> Aiena: to see what really is happening, try:   for i in 1 to 4; do echo "i = $i"; done
[20:44] <David-A> Aiena: you see, "for i in 1 to 4", does *not* work, not as you expected
[20:46] <Aiena> your write
[20:46] <Aiena> hmm
[20:46] <Aiena> thanks for pointing it out
[20:48] <David-A> Aiena: does this work for you?   for i in {1..4}; do echo "i = $i"; done
[20:48] <Aiena> yes
[20:49] <Aiena> I missed the parentheses
[20:51] <David-A> Aiena: note that the {1..4} syntax only works in bash, not in sh
[20:52] <Aiena> David-A: "sleep 2s && for i in {1..4}; do play -n synth 0.1 sin;sleep 0.1; done"
[20:52] <Aiena> I never knew you could execute a for loop directly from terminal linux is so cool :)
[20:52] <Aiena> thanks
[20:53] <Aiena> ok David-A I am relatively new to linux so still need to learn lots I am not comfortable with sh yet
[20:53] <Aiena> I think the normal terminal is a bash terminal
[20:55] <David-A> Aiena: what the shell in the terminal is, is determined by user settings in /etc/passwd, but in most systems it is bash by default
[20:56] <Aiena> Ok I need to buy a linux book and study it so far I know the basics and what you have taught me !! THanks a lot David-A
[20:57] <David-A> Aiena: "buy a book"? 2013? do you have access to the internet?
[20:57] <Aiena> sox is very good I can jsut syth the sound rather than having to specify a path to a file with vlc etc all the time and its more efficient :)
[20:57] <Aiena> David-A: E books are still bad for heavy reading
[20:58] <Aiena> I still resort to books because of the scroll back scroll forward issue with e books !
[20:58] <Aiena> But FBreader is ok
[20:58] <Aiena> so I can manage ebooks with that
[20:58] <Aiena> but its not so great
[20:58] <David-A> Aiena: not books, not e-books, just web sites with guides, examples, courses, all for free
[20:59] <Aiena> Hmm IRC is great. You've been a lot more help. Searching on google didnt give me the right answer
[20:59] <Aiena> searching for a timer on linux pointed me to a cpu timer event :P
[20:59] <Aiena> I had never heard of sox before I am going to experiment a lot more with it now :)
[21:00] <Aiena> THanks a lot :)
[21:21] <David-A> Aiena: what some more fun? generate graphical plots from numerical data?
[21:42] <xubuntu975> hi! I just want to ask about how long can laptop work from batary?
[21:43] <holstein> xubuntu975: depends on the hardware.. the battery.. the hardware driver support.. what you are doing on the machine, and what is turned on or off, such as wifi/bluetooth
[21:43] <holstein> xubuntu975: i get 6+ hours on my EEEpc, and less than an hour on an older acer
[21:44] <xubuntu975> is it longer then in windows?
[21:44] <holstein> xubuntu975: depends on hardware support
[21:45] <holstein> xubuntu975: for me? i have no idea, since i have not used windows on either of those machine.. but, typically, the hardware is designed to run, and intended to run windows.. thuse with optimized drivers that do power management better than linux can, without similar attention from a vendor
[21:47] <Aiena> David-A: Indeed
[21:47] <Aiena> WOuld love to
[21:49] <xubuntu975> holstein: i see.  i just asked becouse in institute some times should work a lot, and in win my laptop works longer, then kubuntu
[21:49] <David-A> Aiena: can you install "ploticus" from the repos?
[21:49] <Aiena> I'll check !! Just building a package
[21:50] <Aiena> yes David-A
[21:50] <Aiena> I thik so I'll learn linux way faster with tiny exercises like these :)
[21:51] <Aiena> David-A:  Installed
[21:52] <Aiena> ploticus
[21:52] <holstein> xubuntu975: in the future, consider purchasing hardware that is designed and intended to run linux instead of windows (assuming you want to run linux instead of windows, primarily).. something like system76 for example
[21:54] <Aiena> holstein: where do you get good configurations for CG which are completely linux compatible?
[21:54] <holstein> Aiena: CG?
[21:54] <Aiena> computer graphics
[21:54] <Aiena> Say for 3D
[21:55] <David-A> Aiena: are you using a graphical environment? (that is, the terminal is just a window in a windowing system, a desktop system)
[21:55] <Aiena> I am using a graphical environment but I prefer the termi al for most of the core work
[21:55] <xubuntu975> holstein: thanks for advice. i`l be smarte in feature)
[21:55] <Aiena> David-A:  I use xubuntu it leaves a lot of ram for CG etc.
[21:55] <holstein> xubuntu975: my EEEpc was not that way.. i juse bought intel, and had done my research
[21:56] <Aiena> with the xfce desktop
[21:56] <David-A> Aiena: to see boring data in a terminal:  for i in {2001..2010}; do echo $i $RANDOM; done
[21:56] <holstein> Aiena: im not sure about the question.. you mean, 3d hardware? for gaming?
[21:57] <Aiena> hmm yes specifications will be very similar for gaming both need good cpu's and gpu's and truckloads of RAM
[21:57] <Aiena> holstein: Animation
[21:57] <Aiena> like 3d movies (finding nemo) but yes I intend to get a good gpu as well as a good cpu
[21:58] <holstein> Aiena: blender is the tool we have that i know folks do 3d in... i mean, i use other 3d capable applications, such as sweethome3d, but it depends on your needs
[21:58] <Aiena> I use blender a lot (blender.org)
[21:58] <Aiena> holstein: said it at the same time
[21:58] <Aiena> :)
[21:58] <holstein> things like openshot use blender as well, for some 3d effects
[21:58] <Aiena> yeah I need that kind of pc
[21:59] <holstein> Aiena: are you asking about a machine made to run linux that will do 3d graphics?
[21:59] <Aiena> exactly
[21:59] <Aiena> Imean vendors who sell a 100% compatible machine
[21:59] <holstein> Aiena: i would look at system76, and at least get an idea of what is available.. you might find cheaper.. but you likely wont find better
[21:59] <Aiena> thanks
[22:00] <Aiena> holstein: does system 76 sell nvidia gtx 580 cards the 690 cards are good for gaming but not gpu rendering
[22:01] <Aiena> hmm doesnt seem so
[22:04] <Aiena> I could buy that seperate thanks holstein
[22:04] <holstein> Aiena: i would call/email them.. they will be able to provide you information on what you would need... if you want to discuss, we go to #xubuntu-offtopic.. thanks :)
[22:12] <Aiena> David-A: lol
[22:16] <David-A> Aiena: lol? the boring data?
[22:19] <David-A> Aiena: my thinking was repeating the for loop but pipe its output to ploticus. do you know about up-arrow to repeat a previous command?
[22:20] <Aiena> yes
[22:25] <David-A> Aiena: so after the for loop that generates data, append:   | ploticus -prefab vbars data=- x=1 y=2
[22:25] <Aiena> ok
[22:27] <Aiena> David-A: the random function is generating out of bounds data which ploticus cant handle
[22:31] <David-A> Aiena: my ploticus handles it, version 2.41-Mar2009
[22:31] <Aiena> David-A: can you give the full command maybe I am doing something wrong
[22:32] <David-A> Aiena:  for i in {2001..2010}; do echo $i $RANDOM; done | ploticus -prefab vbars data=- x=1 y=2
[22:34] <Aiena> ah works now
[22:34] <Aiena> forgot a tiny element
[22:35] <David-A> Aiena: try again and change "vbars" to "lines" in the command
[22:37] <Aiena> neat
[22:37] <Aiena> David-A: got to sleep good night
[22:37] <Aiena> will have loads of fun later
[22:37] <Aiena> Was a pleasure talking to you
[22:38] <Aiena> take care
[22:38] <Aiena> :)
[22:38] <David-A> Aiena: no, this is as fun as it gets
[22:38] <Aiena> hehe
[22:38] <Aiena> ok ciao
[23:07] <photon> hi. which gcc version is in xubuntu 12.04?