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tim-tamsanyone here?00:32
ahoneybuntim-tams: yes?00:32
tim-tamsI'm in desperate need of help with Broadcom drivers, I've been trying for WEEKS to get my wifi working...00:33
tim-tamsI've followed every single tutorial online and nothing works00:33
tim-tamsso I figured I should talk to someone personally00:33
ahoneybunrun the command lspci00:33
tim-tams0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)00:34
tim-tams?00:35
ahoneybunlooking00:35
tim-tamsok thanks00:36
ahoneybuntim-tams: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer00:37
tim-tamsI believe I've already done this, but I'll just go with it so I can tell you exactly what happens00:37
tim-tamsit told me to use the lpphy version, so I'm installing that00:38
tim-tamsrebooting, I'll be back00:39
ahoneybunok00:39
ahoneybunoh00:39
ahoneybunI see that00:39
ahoneybunlp-phy00:39
FloodBotK1ahoneybun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:39
tim-tamsyes00:39
tim-tamsit just installed, do I need to reboot?00:39
ahoneybunreboot then see if it works with this command sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl00:40
tim-tamsok00:40
ahoneybunI'll be here00:40
tim-tamsno dice00:44
tim-tamsifconfig still doesn't show wlan00:44
InfesterAny recommendations for things to try doing on ubuntu?00:45
tim-tamsahoneybun00:45
ahoneybunInfester: what? task?>00:47
ahoneybuntasks?00:47
ahoneybuntim-tams: yes00:47
InfesterCuring boredom00:47
ahoneybunoh00:47
ahoneybunsudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl00:47
tim-tamsi founf b43 in a blacklist file from bcmwl, I'm trying to uninstall that and remove blacklist00:48
tim-tamsI tried that command and nothing happened00:48
ahoneybunno output?00:48
tim-tamsnothing at all00:49
tim-tamsfrom that command00:49
ahoneybunoh00:49
ahoneybunsudo modprobe wl00:49
ahoneybun?00:49
tim-tamssame thing, no output at all00:50
tim-tamswould a blacklist make that happen? because I think I got rid of the blacklist and I can reboot and try again00:50
ahoneybunyea always reboot after you try something to know it that fixed it00:51
ahoneybunwelll for this00:51
tim-tamswould it be bad to delete all my blacklists in /etc/modprobe.d?00:57
tim-tamsbecause i found blacklists for wl and some for b43 and i think basically all the drivers I tried are blocking each other00:58
tim-tamsahoneybun, thoughts?00:59
ahoneybunmaybe not sure00:59
ahoneybunweird that it would do that00:59
tim-tamswhat command do I use in the terminal to delete a file?01:00
tim-tamsI have an idea01:00
ahoneybunhttp://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/84601:01
ahoneybuntry this first01:01
tim-tamsahoneybun, still nothing...01:14
ahoneybunoh01:15
tim-tamsall I have is eth0 and lo01:15
ahoneybunoh01:15
ahoneybunifconfig?01:15
tim-tamsI deleted the blacklists that were blocking b43 and wl, and the only driver I have installed right now is b43 lpphy, but still no wifi01:16
tim-tamseth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:ae:1b:d4:3e01:16
tim-tams          inet addr:192.168.1.6  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.001:16
tim-tams          inet6 addr: fe80::223:aeff:fe1b:d43e/64 Scope:Link01:16
tim-tams          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:101:16
tim-tams          RX packets:89 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:001:16
FloodBotK1tim-tams: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:16
tim-tams          TX packets:147 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:001:16
tim-tamsthoughts?01:17
ahoneybunhttp://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/84601:17
ahoneybunsorry01:18
ahoneybunhttp://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1711201:18
tim-tamsI did that01:18
tim-tamsoh01:18
tim-tamsoh01:18
tim-tamsdaniel@daniel-Inspiron-1545:~$ sudo echo options b43 pio=1 qos=0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf01:21
tim-tamsbash: /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf: Permission denied01:21
tim-tamsdenied? why?01:22
ahoneybuncd -a /etc/modprobe.d01:23
ahoneybunno01:23
ahoneybunls -a01:23
tim-tamsthen what?01:23
ahoneybunit will list the permission for that folder01:24
ahoneybunthe files in it01:24
tim-tamsit listed quite a bit01:24
ahoneybunwait01:24
tim-tamsok01:25
ahoneybuntheir is a command for listing permissions01:25
ahoneybunthere01:26
tim-tamsI'm confused01:26
ahoneybunthe file has a different permission mayb01:26
ahoneybune01:26
ahoneybunI wonder if you should use the su command01:26
tim-tamswhat file?01:26
ahoneybunto be root01:26
ahoneybunlocal.conf is a file01:26
tim-tamsit won't authenticate me01:27
ahoneybunoh01:27
tim-tamswhich is wierd, because my password works when I use sudo01:27
ahoneybunsudo is a command to use root power01:28
tim-tamsright01:28
ahoneybunsu is to become root01:28
tim-tamsisn't that what I want?01:28
tim-tamswhy does one work but not the other?01:29
ahoneybundifferent permissions (I think)01:29
tim-tamshmm01:29
tim-tamsso what do I do?01:29
tim-tamsthis is so darn annoying, I've been working on it for ages01:32
ahoneybunlooking01:33
tim-tamsthanks01:33
ahoneybunhttp://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/21801:35
ahoneybundo not add the lines debian testing01:36
LudlowHello anyone alive?01:38
tim-tamsit won't let me su, how do I get the right password for that?01:38
Ludlowanyone know where the default kde icons are located ?01:39
ahoneybuntim-tams: not sure tbh01:40
tim-tamsok01:40
ahoneybunLudlow: where it is in the Kubuntu install?01:40
Ludlowyes01:41
LudlowI'm trying to find the default icon for the file menu but cant find it01:41
tim-tamsit said something like this: bad luck, the kernel headers were not found and you did not list any alternates01:42
tim-tamsI couldn't copy paste it01:42
ahoneybunoh01:42
ahoneybunLudlow: /usr/share/icons/default.kde4/01:45
Ludlowahoneybun: thanks01:47
ahoneybunnp01:47
ahoneybunhttp://www.1earthadventures.com/2012/06/21/techie-stuff/ubuntu-12-04-and-bcm4312-lp-phy-not-connecting-to-wireless/01:52
smittieHello.02:05
smittieLooking for Krita help.02:05
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smittieQuestion.02:19
smittieProbably a simple one.02:19
danielwhat the actual fuck02:22
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Guest6200my wifi is finally working, I love life02:22
ahoneybunsmittie: sorry02:27
ahoneybunsmittie: ask :)02:27
smittieI have a System76 desktop with an i7 Core cpu.02:28
smittie8 gigs of mem02:28
smittieShould I be installing i386 or AMD64?02:28
smittieFor my purposes, stability is more important than speed.02:28
ahoneybununame -a02:29
ahoneybunrun that then give me the outpit02:29
ahoneybunoutput02:29
smittie 3.5.0-32-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:23:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:29
ahoneybunAMD6402:29
smittieI have been installing the AMD64 but, I'm running into problem with Krita 2.6.02:30
ahoneybunwhat kinda02:30
ahoneybunkind?02:30
smittieI'm probably seeing bug 310310.02:31
ubottubug 310310 in Bazaar Hg Plugin "'HgRepository' object has no attribute '_fallback_repositories'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31031002:31
smittieHum, KDE 310310.02:31
ubottuKDE bug 310310 in general "Crash when autosaving" [Crash,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31031002:31
lorddeltadamn why is kde riddled with all these crashes =/02:31
smittieOther than Krita, the system runs quite stable.02:32
smittieI'm an Apple Fan Boy converting to Kubuntu... Maybe.02:32
smittieLordDelta: Right?02:32
lorddeltawell I was experiencing bunches, but it has to do with my apt being outdated02:32
smittieI use Kubuntu 13.04 at work with no problems.02:33
lorddeltaI'm hoping once it is all up to date it will be smooth sailing...02:33
lorddeltaIts still better than what unity had to offer IMHO02:33
lorddeltaAt least it crashes but it does it in a modular way02:34
smittieUnity sucks.02:34
smittieI used Ubuntu up until 11.04.02:34
lorddelta12.1002:35
smittieSwitched to KDE and have been pretty happy since.02:35
lorddeltaThen I became a KDE convert02:35
smittieI really like KDE.02:35
smittieIf I have to switch distros to find a stable base for KDE, I'll do that.02:35
lorddeltaWell I'm not sure how you'll take this but have you heard of Windows Red?02:36
smittieI haven't done Windows in years.02:36
lorddeltaBasically (if you haven't) its what some CNET guys came up with as their proposed solution to the Windows 8 fiasco...02:36
lorddeltaAnd someone in the KDE team was all like "hey, that's what KDE does!"02:37
lorddeltaNot sure how much that says though...02:37
lorddelta:P02:37
lorddeltaWindows 8 hasn't been popular after all.02:37
smittieKDE's got my attention, at least for a little while.02:38
lorddeltaHey, at least we have devs that are less likely (laws of probability) to go crazy and make everything "easier for the user".02:38
smittieNeed to see some stability where Krita is concerned.02:38
lorddeltaAnd they aren't forking themselves sidways from Sunday with 5 different variants...02:39
smittieahoneybun: Thank you.02:39
smittieI'm out.02:39
lorddelta*waves*02:39
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ahoneybunlorddelta: I like Unity and GNOME Shell a lot03:00
ahoneybunGNOME Shell more so with 3.8 out03:00
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murthyhello everyone07:11
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ik_Bore da cyfeillion ¡¡10:23
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demonoid_mehow can i attach my old desktop with icons and folders10:54
demonoid_mei mean i have folder Desktop and i wanna used this folder with all things10:55
demonoid_meor i need activity witch can move icons and select multiple ...10:55
demonoid_medesktop icons10:55
demonoid_mebut when i choose desktop icons activity there have't icons10:56
demonoid_me:(10:56
dcorbinzIt appears that 12.04 does not support my network chips.  Other than install 13, any suggestoins?11:00
dcorbinzAre there any 12.x installs with newer kernels?11:01
hateball!kernel11:02
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)11:02
BluesKajHey all11:05
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dcorbinz!Mainline kernel11:36
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dcorbinzhateball, it's not that I want to bulid the kernel myself.  It's just that I want network access :)11:37
hateball!mainline11:37
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds11:37
hateballdcorbinz: I was looking for the trigger for the Kernel PPA11:38
PhantomHelixarg, why wont parallels tools install in kubuntu 13.10 nightly?11:38
jiri__ahoj11:58
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fitHi there, will KDE 4.11 be available for Kubuntu 12.0412:05
tsimpsonfit: try asking in #kubuntu-devel12:06
TSKMornin'13:14
baltolkienI have a problem with nepomuk with Kubuntu 13.0414:18
lordievaderGood afternoon.14:18
Darkwingbaltolkien: What issue?14:19
baltolkienAnyone can help me?14:19
Darkwinglordievader: o/14:19
baltolkienSimply... doesn'y work...14:19
baltolkienI explani it14:19
baltolkienexplain it.14:19
baltolkienA few weeks ago14:19
baltolkienI can search, use timeline (wonderful tool), etc.14:20
baltolkienBut, one day... It stop  working14:20
baltolkienI try to activate and reactivate it in System Settings but doesn' work14:21
baltolkienI wait to update to KDE 4.10.3 anf 4,10.414:21
baltolkienAnd doesn't work14:21
lordievaderHey Darkwing, how are you?14:21
baltolkienAny suggestion?14:21
Darkwingbaltolkien: Give me a moment and let me see what I can do.14:22
Darkwinglordievader: Not bad.14:22
lordievaderDarkwing: Good to hear :)14:22
baltolkienok14:22
Darkwingbaltolkien: If I understand, nepomuk is no longer showing stuff in say, KRunner?14:27
DarkwingOr, is it erroring?14:27
baltolkienNo, nepomuk appears14:28
baltolkienTHe config util14:28
baltolkienAnd the cleaner tool appears14:28
baltolkienI can stop/start with the gui14:28
baltolkienBut it seems that nothing happens with nepomuk14:29
Darkwinghmmz...14:29
baltolkien(Sorry, if my english is not good)14:29
Darkwingbaltolkien: It's ok. :) I just wanted to make sure I fully understood.14:29
DarkwingSo, while the options are checked, File Indexing is not running...14:29
baltolkienTrue14:30
DarkwingI see that on my system now. (Just upgraded to 4.10.4 about 30 minutes ago.14:30
baltolkienIn details appear14:30
baltolkiensorry14:30
Darkwingbaltolkien: like this? http://imm.io/18Sl414:34
baltolkienNo...14:34
baltolkienSorry14:35
baltolkienYes, like this14:35
baltolkienIn details14:35
Darkwingbaltolkien: does this sound familiar? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31884114:37
ubottuKDE bug 318841 in general "nepomuk does not work on Kubuntu 13.04" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]14:37
baltolkienI don't know it...14:38
baltolkienSo, I'm a user... can i solve it?14:39
DarkwingI'm still trying to find a reason.14:39
Darkwingfile a bug report at bugs.kde.org and paste the bug number in here.14:39
baltolkienSo, I must wait, don't?14:39
SouLHello14:48
SouLI uninstalled Nvidia drivers and now I have no graphic enviroment14:49
SouLIt starts with the tty1 now and startx doesn't work14:49
SouLI had noveau before14:49
SouLWhat I could do?14:50
lordievaderSouL: Ok, great that you still have access to tty1.14:50
SouLI'm a little lost14:50
lordievaderSouL: Login and run: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau14:50
SouLlordievader: Yes, on tty7 I can see how some services start, but not the graphics14:50
lordievaderThis will probably install the nouveau driver again.14:50
SouLok14:50
SouLI'm going to that pc, wait please! haha14:51
lordievaderSouL: Hope this is a secondary pc.14:52
omarhi14:53
omarheloo all14:54
lordievaderHey omar, how are you?14:54
omari'm fine thnks14:54
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omari wont a good Kde rolling distro plz!14:57
lordievaderomar: I don't think Kubuntu will be a rolling release anytime soon.14:57
DarkwingIt will not be a rolling release but, with the ppa you can get the latest and greatest.14:58
omaroh!! ok it's good idea i hope!14:59
SouLlordievader: It says "0 to install, 0 to remove,.." etc :(14:59
Darkwingomar: here is for the ppa :D http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.415:00
omarDarkwing: thank you very match!15:01
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SouLIt's hard to search info about that on the internet when you don't have any xorg.conf and other things15:03
lordievaderSouL: Did the nouveau thing work? Got D/Ced15:03
arminhi, my X locking screen crashes when i type one character of my password, reproducably. anyone else with that problem?15:03
SouLlordievader: Nope :/15:04
SouL[16:59] <SouL> lordievader: It says "0 to install, 0 to remove,.." etc :(15:04
lordievaderSouL: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo jockey-text --list"?15:05
lordievader!paste15:05
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:05
SouLlordievader: I'll try to get the url then. Hang on please :D15:06
SouLlordievader: It's in Catalan but it says that I'm not using it where "No s'està utilitzant"15:11
SouLhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5751951/15:11
lordievaderHmm I was afraid of jockey only showing closed source drivers...15:11
lordievaderSouL: You also have the 'nouveau-firmware' package installed on your system?15:12
SouLlet me check it15:12
SouLlordievader: the result of aptitude search → http://paste.ubuntu.com/5751969/15:14
lordievaderThe I infront means that it is installed I take it?15:15
SouLYes15:15
lordievaderHmm.. I'm afraid I know too little about Nouveau to give you any good advice. You might try the closed source driver to get things working again.15:19
ahoneybunlordievader: howdy15:20
lordievaderHey ahoneybun, you caught me in a bad time. I'll be right back.15:21
ahoneybunk15:21
SouLOhh15:22
SouLSomeone knows what can I do?15:22
lordievaderahoneybun: Back ;)15:30
ahoneybunlordievader: wb15:31
lordievaderahoneybun: How are you?15:31
ahoneybunlordievader: fine15:32
ahoneybunyou15:33
ahoneybun?15:33
lordievaderDoing good too, I think I finaly found the cause why my server kept crashing.15:34
ahoneybunoh goo15:42
ahoneybund15:42
alix_when i start my computer, 1.1GB/2GB is used; right now, after opening chromium, it's 1.4GB/2GB; what can i do to reduce that? i'm on kubuntu 13.10 on kde 4.10.3; kde desktop effects are disabled15:54
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geniialix_: Perhaps try opening it with the --purge-memory-button     as described here: http://www.kabatology.com/03/17/free-up-memory-in-google-chrome-and-chromium-with-purge-memory-feature-linux/      also there is an addon called The Great Suspender which allows you to suspend what's going on in separate tabs ( so for instance a flash animation won't be continuously running, etc) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-16:03
geniisuspender/klbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg?hl=en16:03
alix_genii: thanks good idea16:04
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Sorulordievader: I resolved it at least :) I'm on Quassel now :D16:28
lordievaderSoru: How did you resolve the issue?16:30
Sorulordievader: I reinstalled nvidia-310, then I did:16:31
Soruaptitude remove nvidia-310 (and the most important it seems) aptitude purge nvidia-31016:31
lordievaderAnd now you are running Nouveau again?16:31
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jorsHi all.  Can anyone give some advice on how to remaster/edit the Kubuntu 13.04 ISO.  I'm looking to make a couple of modifications and adding a LOT of extra apps to the default image for widescale deployment.  How do I go about this?  Any help will be appreciated.16:37
genii!remaster | jors16:38
ubottujors: Interested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility16:38
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lordievaderjors: This one is also fun to read: http://37rtm.host22.com/content/ubuntu-live-cd-persitence-using-nfs16:38
jorsThanks everyone.  Will look into it.  Gotta start somewhere I guess.16:40
Soru<lordievader> And now you are running Nouveau again? ← Yes!16:52
AethysiusHow does one configure the firewall of a Kubuntu computer?16:53
infridhi17:00
TSKAethysius: You can install gufw if you want a GUI, or you can read "man ufw" if you want the nerdy way.  ;)17:01
TSKUbuntu and it's variants by default use ufw (Uncomplicated Firewall), although you can also uninstall that and use any other iptables app you prefer, too.    (I personally like "Firestarter", but there's a ton of other options, too.)17:03
AethysiusExcellent. Thanks.17:03
TSKNotta problem.  Enjoy.  :)17:04
TSKThank you to #kubuntu for helping ME with MY issue the other day, too.  ;)17:04
TSKIRC FTW once again.     :)17:04
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lordievaderSoru: nice :)17:25
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FloodBotK1!netsplit17:42
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit17:42
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usuario4who is conected?17:51
BluesKajusuario4, connected to ?17:51
usuario4yes17:52
usuario4where are you BluesKaj?17:52
BluesKajhere17:52
BluesKajusuario4, do you have kubuntu support question ?17:53
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usuario4no yet, i'm exploring17:53
usuario4and i found this red...17:53
usuario4this red is online from irc.ubuntu.com?17:54
BluesKaj red ?17:56
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geniiIf someone uses your IRC name in a sentence, it appears highlighted to you, sometimes in red.17:57
BluesKajoh that17:59
usuario4español?18:00
BluesKaj!es | usuario418:00
ubottuusuario4: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:00
usuario4thank's!18:01
usuario4quien anda¿?18:01
BluesKajusuario4, click on here #ubuntu-es18:02
alix_hi, i'm trying to see which services i need and which i don't; do i need acpi-support?19:02
Walexalix_: probably if you care about power management19:03
alix_light dimming when battery low?19:04
alix_do i need AppAmor? is this a security kind of service?19:06
alix_"AppArmor is a Mandatory Access Control (MAC) system which is a kernel (LSM) enhancement to confine programs to a limited set of resources."19:06
alix_looks important19:07
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Walexalix_: it is important and it is not a service.19:13
alix_i'm disabling stuff in rcconf19:13
alix_disabled a bunch of stuff in Service Manager too19:14
Walexalix_: regrettably the usual crowd of misguided "innovators" use the the same stuff to control services and setup configurations, because they cannot see that scripts that start services and scripts that setup configurations are fundamentally different stuff19:14
alix_rcconf should be for script that setup configurations? so disabling them shouldn't help reduce the memory consumption?19:15
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tumor130haelleou19:32
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BluesKajhi tumor13019:33
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alizehi, i've installed kubuntu low fat settings, and now my kate window looks like that: http://i.imgur.com/aNFHUTy.png how can i resize it?19:54
alizei don't have buttons for minizing/maximizing/closing either nor a title bar19:56
Walexalize: ALT-F3 if you use Kwin20:00
Walexalize: but it is difficult to imagine that "low fat settings" go as a far as removing window decorations...20:01
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geniialize: ctrl-shift-f20:36
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