[00:32] <tim-tams> anyone here?
[00:32] <ahoneybun> tim-tams: yes?
[00:33] <tim-tams> I'm in desperate need of help with Broadcom drivers, I've been trying for WEEKS to get my wifi working...
[00:33] <tim-tams> I've followed every single tutorial online and nothing works
[00:33] <tim-tams> so I figured I should talk to someone personally
[00:33] <ahoneybun> run the command lspci
[00:34] <tim-tams> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[00:35] <tim-tams> ?
[00:35] <ahoneybun> looking
[00:36] <tim-tams> ok thanks
[00:37] <ahoneybun> tim-tams: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[00:37] <tim-tams> I believe I've already done this, but I'll just go with it so I can tell you exactly what happens
[00:38] <tim-tams> it told me to use the lpphy version, so I'm installing that
[00:39] <tim-tams> rebooting, I'll be back
[00:39] <ahoneybun> ok
[00:39] <ahoneybun> oh
[00:39] <ahoneybun> I see that
[00:39] <ahoneybun> lp-phy
[00:39] <FloodBotK1> ahoneybun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:39] <tim-tams> yes
[00:39] <tim-tams> it just installed, do I need to reboot?
[00:40] <ahoneybun> reboot then see if it works with this command sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[00:40] <tim-tams> ok
[00:40] <ahoneybun> I'll be here
[00:44] <tim-tams> no dice
[00:44] <tim-tams> ifconfig still doesn't show wlan
[00:45] <Infester> Any recommendations for things to try doing on ubuntu?
[00:45] <tim-tams> ahoneybun
[00:47] <ahoneybun> Infester: what? task?>
[00:47] <ahoneybun> tasks?
[00:47] <ahoneybun> tim-tams: yes
[00:47] <Infester> Curing boredom
[00:47] <ahoneybun> oh
[00:47] <ahoneybun> sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[00:48] <tim-tams> i founf b43 in a blacklist file from bcmwl, I'm trying to uninstall that and remove blacklist
[00:48] <tim-tams> I tried that command and nothing happened
[00:48] <ahoneybun> no output?
[00:49] <tim-tams> nothing at all
[00:49] <tim-tams> from that command
[00:49] <ahoneybun> oh
[00:49] <ahoneybun> sudo modprobe wl
[00:49] <ahoneybun> ?
[00:50] <tim-tams> same thing, no output at all
[00:50] <tim-tams> would a blacklist make that happen? because I think I got rid of the blacklist and I can reboot and try again
[00:51] <ahoneybun> yea always reboot after you try something to know it that fixed it
[00:51] <ahoneybun> welll for this
[00:57] <tim-tams> would it be bad to delete all my blacklists in /etc/modprobe.d?
[00:58] <tim-tams> because i found blacklists for wl and some for b43 and i think basically all the drivers I tried are blocking each other
[00:59] <tim-tams> ahoneybun, thoughts?
[00:59] <ahoneybun> maybe not sure
[00:59] <ahoneybun> weird that it would do that
[01:00] <tim-tams> what command do I use in the terminal to delete a file?
[01:00] <tim-tams> I have an idea
[01:01] <ahoneybun> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/846
[01:01] <ahoneybun> try this first
[01:14] <tim-tams> ahoneybun, still nothing...
[01:15] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:15] <tim-tams> all I have is eth0 and lo
[01:15] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:15] <ahoneybun> ifconfig?
[01:16] <tim-tams> I deleted the blacklists that were blocking b43 and wl, and the only driver I have installed right now is b43 lpphy, but still no wifi
[01:16] <tim-tams> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:ae:1b:d4:3e
[01:16] <tim-tams>           inet addr:192.168.1.6  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[01:16] <tim-tams>           inet6 addr: fe80::223:aeff:fe1b:d43e/64 Scope:Link
[01:16] <tim-tams>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:16] <tim-tams>           RX packets:89 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:16] <FloodBotK1> tim-tams: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <tim-tams>           TX packets:147 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:17] <tim-tams> thoughts?
[01:17] <ahoneybun> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/846
[01:18] <ahoneybun> sorry
[01:18] <ahoneybun> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17112
[01:18] <tim-tams> I did that
[01:18] <tim-tams> oh
[01:18] <tim-tams> oh
[01:21] <tim-tams> daniel@daniel-Inspiron-1545:~$ sudo echo options b43 pio=1 qos=0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
[01:21] <tim-tams> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf: Permission denied
[01:22] <tim-tams> denied? why?
[01:23] <ahoneybun> cd -a /etc/modprobe.d
[01:23] <ahoneybun> no
[01:23] <ahoneybun> ls -a
[01:23] <tim-tams> then what?
[01:24] <ahoneybun> it will list the permission for that folder
[01:24] <ahoneybun> the files in it
[01:24] <tim-tams> it listed quite a bit
[01:24] <ahoneybun> wait
[01:25] <tim-tams> ok
[01:25] <ahoneybun> their is a command for listing permissions
[01:26] <ahoneybun> there
[01:26] <tim-tams> I'm confused
[01:26] <ahoneybun> the file has a different permission mayb
[01:26] <ahoneybun> e
[01:26] <ahoneybun> I wonder if you should use the su command
[01:26] <tim-tams> what file?
[01:26] <ahoneybun> to be root
[01:26] <ahoneybun> local.conf is a file
[01:27] <tim-tams> it won't authenticate me
[01:27] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:27] <tim-tams> which is wierd, because my password works when I use sudo
[01:28] <ahoneybun> sudo is a command to use root power
[01:28] <tim-tams> right
[01:28] <ahoneybun> su is to become root
[01:28] <tim-tams> isn't that what I want?
[01:29] <tim-tams> why does one work but not the other?
[01:29] <ahoneybun> different permissions (I think)
[01:29] <tim-tams> hmm
[01:29] <tim-tams> so what do I do?
[01:32] <tim-tams> this is so darn annoying, I've been working on it for ages
[01:33] <ahoneybun> looking
[01:33] <tim-tams> thanks
[01:35] <ahoneybun> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/218
[01:36] <ahoneybun> do not add the lines debian testing
[01:38] <Ludlow> Hello anyone alive?
[01:38] <tim-tams> it won't let me su, how do I get the right password for that?
[01:39] <Ludlow> anyone know where the default kde icons are located ?
[01:40] <ahoneybun> tim-tams: not sure tbh
[01:40] <tim-tams> ok
[01:40] <ahoneybun> Ludlow: where it is in the Kubuntu install?
[01:41] <Ludlow> yes
[01:41] <Ludlow> I'm trying to find the default icon for the file menu but cant find it
[01:42] <tim-tams> it said something like this: bad luck, the kernel headers were not found and you did not list any alternates
[01:42] <tim-tams> I couldn't copy paste it
[01:42] <ahoneybun> oh
[01:45] <ahoneybun> Ludlow: /usr/share/icons/default.kde4/
[01:47] <Ludlow> ahoneybun: thanks
[01:47] <ahoneybun> np
[01:52] <ahoneybun> http://www.1earthadventures.com/2012/06/21/techie-stuff/ubuntu-12-04-and-bcm4312-lp-phy-not-connecting-to-wireless/
[02:05] <smittie> Hello.
[02:05] <smittie> Looking for Krita help.
[02:19] <smittie> Question.
[02:19] <smittie> Probably a simple one.
[02:22] <daniel> what the actual fuck
[02:22] <Guest6200> my wifi is finally working, I love life
[02:27] <ahoneybun> smittie: sorry
[02:27] <ahoneybun> smittie: ask :)
[02:28] <smittie> I have a System76 desktop with an i7 Core cpu.
[02:28] <smittie> 8 gigs of mem
[02:28] <smittie> Should I be installing i386 or AMD64?
[02:28] <smittie> For my purposes, stability is more important than speed.
[02:29] <ahoneybun> uname -a
[02:29] <ahoneybun> run that then give me the outpit
[02:29] <ahoneybun> output
[02:29] <smittie>  3.5.0-32-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:23:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:29] <ahoneybun> AMD64
[02:30] <smittie> I have been installing the AMD64 but, I'm running into problem with Krita 2.6.
[02:30] <ahoneybun> what kinda
[02:30] <ahoneybun> kind?
[02:31] <smittie> I'm probably seeing bug 310310.
[02:31] <smittie> Hum, KDE 310310.
[02:31] <lorddelta> damn why is kde riddled with all these crashes =/
[02:32] <smittie> Other than Krita, the system runs quite stable.
[02:32] <smittie> I'm an Apple Fan Boy converting to Kubuntu... Maybe.
[02:32] <smittie> LordDelta: Right?
[02:32] <lorddelta> well I was experiencing bunches, but it has to do with my apt being outdated
[02:33] <smittie> I use Kubuntu 13.04 at work with no problems.
[02:33] <lorddelta> I'm hoping once it is all up to date it will be smooth sailing...
[02:33] <lorddelta> Its still better than what unity had to offer IMHO
[02:34] <lorddelta> At least it crashes but it does it in a modular way
[02:34] <smittie> Unity sucks.
[02:34] <smittie> I used Ubuntu up until 11.04.
[02:35] <lorddelta> 12.10
[02:35] <smittie> Switched to KDE and have been pretty happy since.
[02:35] <lorddelta> Then I became a KDE convert
[02:35] <smittie> I really like KDE.
[02:35] <smittie> If I have to switch distros to find a stable base for KDE, I'll do that.
[02:36] <lorddelta> Well I'm not sure how you'll take this but have you heard of Windows Red?
[02:36] <smittie> I haven't done Windows in years.
[02:36] <lorddelta> Basically (if you haven't) its what some CNET guys came up with as their proposed solution to the Windows 8 fiasco...
[02:37] <lorddelta> And someone in the KDE team was all like "hey, that's what KDE does!"
[02:37] <lorddelta> Not sure how much that says though...
[02:37] <lorddelta> :P
[02:37] <lorddelta> Windows 8 hasn't been popular after all.
[02:38] <smittie> KDE's got my attention, at least for a little while.
[02:38] <lorddelta> Hey, at least we have devs that are less likely (laws of probability) to go crazy and make everything "easier for the user".
[02:38] <smittie> Need to see some stability where Krita is concerned.
[02:39] <lorddelta> And they aren't forking themselves sidways from Sunday with 5 different variants...
[02:39] <smittie> ahoneybun: Thank you.
[02:39] <smittie> I'm out.
[02:39] <lorddelta> *waves*
[03:00] <ahoneybun> lorddelta: I like Unity and GNOME Shell a lot
[03:00] <ahoneybun> GNOME Shell more so with 3.8 out
[07:11] <murthy> hello everyone
[10:23] <ik_> Bore da cyfeillion ¡¡
[10:54] <demonoid_me> how can i attach my old desktop with icons and folders
[10:55] <demonoid_me> i mean i have folder Desktop and i wanna used this folder with all things
[10:55] <demonoid_me> or i need activity witch can move icons and select multiple ...
[10:55] <demonoid_me> desktop icons
[10:56] <demonoid_me> but when i choose desktop icons activity there have't icons
[10:56] <demonoid_me> :(
[11:00] <dcorbinz> It appears that 12.04 does not support my network chips.  Other than install 13, any suggestoins?
[11:01] <dcorbinz> Are there any 12.x installs with newer kernels?
[11:02] <hateball> !kernel
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:36] <dcorbinz> !Mainline kernel
[11:37] <dcorbinz> hateball, it's not that I want to bulid the kernel myself.  It's just that I want network access :)
[11:37] <hateball> !mainline
[11:38] <hateball> dcorbinz: I was looking for the trigger for the Kernel PPA
[11:38] <PhantomHelix> arg, why wont parallels tools install in kubuntu 13.10 nightly?
[11:58] <jiri__> ahoj
[12:05] <fit> Hi there, will KDE 4.11 be available for Kubuntu 12.04
[12:06] <tsimpson> fit: try asking in #kubuntu-devel
[13:14] <TSK> Mornin'
[14:18] <baltolkien> I have a problem with nepomuk with Kubuntu 13.04
[14:18] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:19] <Darkwing> baltolkien: What issue?
[14:19] <baltolkien> Anyone can help me?
[14:19] <Darkwing> lordievader: o/
[14:19] <baltolkien> Simply... doesn'y work...
[14:19] <baltolkien> I explani it
[14:19] <baltolkien> explain it.
[14:19] <baltolkien> A few weeks ago
[14:20] <baltolkien> I can search, use timeline (wonderful tool), etc.
[14:20] <baltolkien> But, one day... It stop  working
[14:21] <baltolkien> I try to activate and reactivate it in System Settings but doesn' work
[14:21] <baltolkien> I wait to update to KDE 4.10.3 anf 4,10.4
[14:21] <baltolkien> And doesn't work
[14:21] <lordievader> Hey Darkwing, how are you?
[14:21] <baltolkien> Any suggestion?
[14:22] <Darkwing> baltolkien: Give me a moment and let me see what I can do.
[14:22] <Darkwing> lordievader: Not bad.
[14:22] <lordievader> Darkwing: Good to hear :)
[14:22] <baltolkien> ok
[14:27] <Darkwing> baltolkien: If I understand, nepomuk is no longer showing stuff in say, KRunner?
[14:27] <Darkwing> Or, is it erroring?
[14:28] <baltolkien> No, nepomuk appears
[14:28] <baltolkien> THe config util
[14:28] <baltolkien> And the cleaner tool appears
[14:28] <baltolkien> I can stop/start with the gui
[14:29] <baltolkien> But it seems that nothing happens with nepomuk
[14:29] <Darkwing> hmmz...
[14:29] <baltolkien> (Sorry, if my english is not good)
[14:29] <Darkwing> baltolkien: It's ok. :) I just wanted to make sure I fully understood.
[14:29] <Darkwing> So, while the options are checked, File Indexing is not running...
[14:30] <baltolkien> True
[14:30] <Darkwing> I see that on my system now. (Just upgraded to 4.10.4 about 30 minutes ago.
[14:30] <baltolkien> In details appear
[14:30] <baltolkien> sorry
[14:34] <Darkwing> baltolkien: like this? http://imm.io/18Sl4
[14:34] <baltolkien> No...
[14:35] <baltolkien> Sorry
[14:35] <baltolkien> Yes, like this
[14:35] <baltolkien> In details
[14:37] <Darkwing> baltolkien: does this sound familiar? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318841
[14:38] <baltolkien> I don't know it...
[14:39] <baltolkien> So, I'm a user... can i solve it?
[14:39] <Darkwing> I'm still trying to find a reason.
[14:39] <Darkwing> file a bug report at bugs.kde.org and paste the bug number in here.
[14:39] <baltolkien> So, I must wait, don't?
[14:48] <SouL> Hello
[14:49] <SouL> I uninstalled Nvidia drivers and now I have no graphic enviroment
[14:49] <SouL> It starts with the tty1 now and startx doesn't work
[14:49] <SouL> I had noveau before
[14:50] <SouL> What I could do?
[14:50] <lordievader> SouL: Ok, great that you still have access to tty1.
[14:50] <SouL> I'm a little lost
[14:50] <lordievader> SouL: Login and run: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[14:50] <SouL> lordievader: Yes, on tty7 I can see how some services start, but not the graphics
[14:50] <lordievader> This will probably install the nouveau driver again.
[14:50] <SouL> ok
[14:51] <SouL> I'm going to that pc, wait please! haha
[14:52] <lordievader> SouL: Hope this is a secondary pc.
[14:53] <omar> hi
[14:54] <omar> heloo all
[14:54] <lordievader> Hey omar, how are you?
[14:54] <omar> i'm fine thnks
[14:57] <omar> i wont a good Kde rolling distro plz!
[14:57] <lordievader> omar: I don't think Kubuntu will be a rolling release anytime soon.
[14:58] <Darkwing> It will not be a rolling release but, with the ppa you can get the latest and greatest.
[14:59] <omar> oh!! ok it's good idea i hope!
[14:59] <SouL> lordievader: It says "0 to install, 0 to remove,.." etc :(
[15:00] <Darkwing> omar: here is for the ppa :D http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.4
[15:01] <omar> Darkwing: thank you very match!
[15:03] <SouL> It's hard to search info about that on the internet when you don't have any xorg.conf and other things
[15:03] <lordievader> SouL: Did the nouveau thing work? Got D/Ced
[15:03] <armin> hi, my X locking screen crashes when i type one character of my password, reproducably. anyone else with that problem?
[15:04] <SouL> lordievader: Nope :/
[15:04] <SouL> [16:59] <SouL> lordievader: It says "0 to install, 0 to remove,.." etc :(
[15:05] <lordievader> SouL: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo jockey-text --list"?
[15:05] <lordievader> !paste
[15:06] <SouL> lordievader: I'll try to get the url then. Hang on please :D
[15:11] <SouL> lordievader: It's in Catalan but it says that I'm not using it where "No s'està utilitzant"
[15:11] <SouL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5751951/
[15:11] <lordievader> Hmm I was afraid of jockey only showing closed source drivers...
[15:12] <lordievader> SouL: You also have the 'nouveau-firmware' package installed on your system?
[15:12] <SouL> let me check it
[15:14] <SouL> lordievader: the result of aptitude search → http://paste.ubuntu.com/5751969/
[15:15] <lordievader> The I infront means that it is installed I take it?
[15:15] <SouL> Yes
[15:19] <lordievader> Hmm.. I'm afraid I know too little about Nouveau to give you any good advice. You might try the closed source driver to get things working again.
[15:20] <ahoneybun> lordievader: howdy
[15:21] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun, you caught me in a bad time. I'll be right back.
[15:21] <ahoneybun> k
[15:22] <SouL> Ohh
[15:22] <SouL> Someone knows what can I do?
[15:30] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Back ;)
[15:31] <ahoneybun> lordievader: wb
[15:31] <lordievader> ahoneybun: How are you?
[15:32] <ahoneybun> lordievader: fine
[15:33] <ahoneybun> you
[15:33] <ahoneybun> ?
[15:34] <lordievader> Doing good too, I think I finaly found the cause why my server kept crashing.
[15:42] <ahoneybun> oh goo
[15:42] <ahoneybun> d
[15:54] <alix_> when i start my computer, 1.1GB/2GB is used; right now, after opening chromium, it's 1.4GB/2GB; what can i do to reduce that? i'm on kubuntu 13.10 on kde 4.10.3; kde desktop effects are disabled
[16:01] <ICBM>  
[16:03] <genii> alix_: Perhaps try opening it with the --purge-memory-button     as described here: http://www.kabatology.com/03/17/free-up-memory-in-google-chrome-and-chromium-with-purge-memory-feature-linux/      also there is an addon called The Great Suspender which allows you to suspend what's going on in separate tabs ( so for instance a flash animation won't be continuously running, etc) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-
[16:03] <genii> suspender/klbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg?hl=en
[16:04] <alix_> genii: thanks good idea
[16:28] <Soru> lordievader: I resolved it at least :) I'm on Quassel now :D
[16:30] <lordievader> Soru: How did you resolve the issue?
[16:31] <Soru> lordievader: I reinstalled nvidia-310, then I did:
[16:31] <Soru> aptitude remove nvidia-310 (and the most important it seems) aptitude purge nvidia-310
[16:31] <lordievader> And now you are running Nouveau again?
[16:37] <jors> Hi all.  Can anyone give some advice on how to remaster/edit the Kubuntu 13.04 ISO.  I'm looking to make a couple of modifications and adding a LOT of extra apps to the default image for widescale deployment.  How do I go about this?  Any help will be appreciated.
[16:38] <genii> !remaster | jors
[16:38] <lordievader> jors: This one is also fun to read: http://37rtm.host22.com/content/ubuntu-live-cd-persitence-using-nfs
[16:40] <jors> Thanks everyone.  Will look into it.  Gotta start somewhere I guess.
 And now you are running Nouveau again? ← Yes!
[16:53] <Aethysius> How does one configure the firewall of a Kubuntu computer?
[17:00] <infrid> hi
[17:01] <TSK> Aethysius: You can install gufw if you want a GUI, or you can read "man ufw" if you want the nerdy way.  ;)
[17:03] <TSK> Ubuntu and it's variants by default use ufw (Uncomplicated Firewall), although you can also uninstall that and use any other iptables app you prefer, too.    (I personally like "Firestarter", but there's a ton of other options, too.)
[17:03] <Aethysius> Excellent. Thanks.
[17:04] <TSK> Notta problem.  Enjoy.  :)
[17:04] <TSK> Thank you to #kubuntu for helping ME with MY issue the other day, too.  ;)
[17:04] <TSK> IRC FTW once again.     :)
[17:25] <lordievader> Soru: nice :)
[17:42] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[17:51] <usuario4> who is conected?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> usuario4, connected to ?
[17:52] <usuario4> yes
[17:52] <usuario4> where are you BluesKaj?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> here
[17:53] <BluesKaj> usuario4, do you have kubuntu support question ?
[17:53] <usuario4> no yet, i'm exploring
[17:53] <usuario4> and i found this red...
[17:54] <usuario4> this red is online from irc.ubuntu.com?
[17:56] <BluesKaj>  red ?
[17:57] <genii> If someone uses your IRC name in a sentence, it appears highlighted to you, sometimes in red.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> oh that
[18:00] <usuario4> español?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> !es | usuario4
[18:01] <usuario4> thank's!
[18:01] <usuario4> quien anda¿?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> usuario4, click on here #ubuntu-es
[19:02] <alix_> hi, i'm trying to see which services i need and which i don't; do i need acpi-support?
[19:03] <Walex> alix_: probably if you care about power management
[19:04] <alix_> light dimming when battery low?
[19:06] <alix_> do i need AppAmor? is this a security kind of service?
[19:06] <alix_> "AppArmor is a Mandatory Access Control (MAC) system which is a kernel (LSM) enhancement to confine programs to a limited set of resources."
[19:07] <alix_> looks important
[19:13] <Walex> alix_: it is important and it is not a service.
[19:13] <alix_> i'm disabling stuff in rcconf
[19:14] <alix_> disabled a bunch of stuff in Service Manager too
[19:14] <Walex> alix_: regrettably the usual crowd of misguided "innovators" use the the same stuff to control services and setup configurations, because they cannot see that scripts that start services and scripts that setup configurations are fundamentally different stuff
[19:15] <alix_> rcconf should be for script that setup configurations? so disabling them shouldn't help reduce the memory consumption?
[19:32] <tumor130> haelleou
[19:33] <BluesKaj> hi tumor130
[19:54] <alize> hi, i've installed kubuntu low fat settings, and now my kate window looks like that: http://i.imgur.com/aNFHUTy.png how can i resize it?
[19:56] <alize> i don't have buttons for minizing/maximizing/closing either nor a title bar
[20:00] <Walex> alize: ALT-F3 if you use Kwin
[20:01] <Walex> alize: but it is difficult to imagine that "low fat settings" go as a far as removing window decorations...
[20:36] <genii> alize: ctrl-shift-f