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shakaranIs present some member of notify-osd team here? I would some dev comment about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/liferea/+bug/118928101:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1189281 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "notify-osd crashed with SIGSEGV while checking bubble private mode G_TYPE_INSTANCE_GET_PRIVATE in bubble_get_id()" [Medium,New]01:51
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mwhudsonhas anyone nicked the python systemtap support from fedora for debian/ubuntu?03:12
vipzrxhello04:14
vipzrxdoes anyone port the ubuntu core 12.04 to the pandaboard es ?04:15
vipzrxGuest68: hello04:16
vipzrxawz: hello04:18
vipzrxanybody here ?04:21
fokavipzrx, Hello!04:23
vipzrxfoka: are you a robot ?04:23
fokavipzrx, Are you?  :-p04:24
sarnoldvipzrx: I installed 12.04 LTS on my Pandaboard ES without trouble04:24
vipzrxok ! I need your help04:24
sarnoldI can try, but since the whole thing Just Worked, I didn't actually learn much about the pandaboard itself in the process :)04:25
fokavipzrx, It seems there are already many success stories of installing Ubuntu 12.04 on PandaBoard ES.  A quick Google search returns various articles, such as this one: http://softswagen.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/how-to-install-ubuntu-12-04-lts-on-pandaboard-es/04:25
vipzrxhttp://omappedia.org/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core04:25
vipzrxI follow this url04:25
sarnold(I've also upgraded to 12.10, so I don't have 12.04 LTS answers at the ready...)04:25
sarnoldvipzrx: if you don't mind getting the full desktop environment instead, you can start here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/04:28
sarnoldvipzrx: Texas Instruments OMAP4 (Hard-Float) preinstalled desktop image -- you can just dd that to a CF card and boot04:29
vipzrxsarnold:  thank you for your answer in advance04:30
vipzrxthe url you sent me is ok04:31
vipzrxand I have been successfully make the  ubuntu desktop version running on my panda446004:32
vipzrxnow I want to build from the ubuntu core to reduce the size of ubuntu04:32
sarnoldvipzrx: aha :)04:32
sarnoldvipzrx: are you doing this just for yourself, on the one machine, or for a product or something that must be easily rebuildable, for lots of people or products?04:33
sarnoldvipzrx: you could just start with your desktop and apt-get purge packages that you do not want to keep.04:33
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vipzrxI do it for myself04:34
sarnoldokay :) and do you want to do it to learn more about the pandaboard, or do you just want the size reduction? :)04:35
vipzrxboth04:39
vipzrxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5750547/  the log from the serial console04:40
sarnoldaha, then going through the more complicated instructions on the omappedia website make sense..04:40
vipzrxwhen I boot the pandaboard04:40
vipzrxhe he04:40
sarnoldhrm, I wonder why you don't have a modules.dep file.04:41
vipzrxin the url,图和is04:43
vipzrxin the url I refered , there is nothing  about it04:43
vipzrx$ ls lib/modules/04:45
vipzrx$04:45
sarnoldoh! you don't have -any- modules. that's definitely odd.04:46
sarnoldthe linux-image-3.2.0-1412-omap4 package should have installed the modules..04:46
vipzrxhow can I do it to install the lost package ?04:46
sarnoldvipzrx: normally, I'd say to stick the memory card into another computer, mount it, chroot there, and then run dpkg -i to install the package.. but that will be difficult if you do not have a second ARM board around..04:48
sarnoldvipzrx: how much work would it be to start over? (at least, I assume their rules _can_ get you to a booted system)04:49
vipzrxok04:51
vipzrxhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core/InstallationExample04:51
sarnoldvipzrx: sorry, it is time for me to go; have a good day, I hope you can solve this quickly :)04:51
sarnoldvipzrx: oh! nice04:52
sarnoldvipzrx: step #6 is very much like I suggested .. but I think it would really only work well if you have another ARM computer :)04:52
vipzrxok thank you04:52
sarnoldvipzrx: good luck :)04:53
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pittiGood morning05:24
ricotzpitti, morning05:35
ricotzpitti, did you know about problems with network-manager after updating to systemd 204-0ubuntu305:36
pittiricotz: no, I don't; it seems to work fine here at least, and I didn't hear complaints yet05:37
pittiricotz: ubuntu3 didn't change anything specific at runtime, that was just a d-i fix05:37
ricotzpitti, i see, i reverted to 204-0ubuntu2 at the weekend to make it work again05:37
pitticjwatson: ^ thanks for this!05:37
ricotzcould be related to using 3.10rc4 though05:38
pitticjwatson: BTW, on Friday you said that pam_getenv was broken; it seems to work quite well here, what did you mean specifically? there's no debian or ubuntu bug about it05:38
ricotzpitti, ok, then it might be a glitch caused by something else05:39
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tvosscjwatson, ping07:09
dholbachgood morning07:17
tvossdholbach, guck guck :)07:17
dholbachhey tvoss :)07:17
mlankhorstmorning07:20
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pittirbasak, cjwatson: I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750880/ now, tested in current sid and saucy; I can't see anything wrong with pam_getenv (but I protected the call against failures anyway)08:03
mitya57Mirv: Can we sync the new qtscript from Debian?08:15
mitya57(Or do you want to upload 5.1 instead?)08:17
Mirvmitya57: sure we could, at least that would get rid of ubuntu version number even though otherwise the -2 should be same as 0ubuntu1 (not sure about the symbols files)08:18
Mirvmitya57: current estimate is that we'd stick with 5.0.2 for a while, backporting patches, and maybe around 5.1.1 upgrade to 5.108:18
mitya57Mirv: ok, syncing then08:18
Mirvthat'd seem a safe route to stay about regression free when Qt5 most of all currently serves Ubuntu Touch efforts08:19
Mirvmitya57: thanks a lot!08:19
mitya57Error: The checksums of the Debian and Ubuntu packages mismatch — so it will probably be a fakesync08:20
Mirvah, I couldn't get the same orig tarball from NEW :(08:20
Mirvis there a place to get the files uploaded to Debian NEW queue?08:21
mitya57Mirv: by the way, lisandro has mostly implemented .qch documentation building in submodules — I will try to merge those into Ubuntu when it's ready08:22
mitya57fakesync'd08:24
mitya57Mirv: I don't know of such place08:27
Laneyno08:28
Laneynot in general, but many teams use a VCS which you can use to get such things out of08:28
mitya57We know contents of the tarball, we need the tarball itself...08:30
Mirvmitya57: yep, I've followed the doc efforts08:32
Laneythat's what pristine-tar does for you08:33
mitya57No, pkg-qt-kde has debian-dir-only git08:34
Laneyso you see where I said "not in general, but many teams"08:35
Laneythat means that it doesn't work in all cases.08:35
cjwatson<cjwatson@amber ~>$ pam_getenv LANG08:36
cjwatson<cjwatson@amber ~>$08:36
cjwatsonpitti: ^-08:36
cjwatsonI'd expect en_GB.UTF-8, since that's what /etc/default/locale says for LANG08:37
cjwatsonWell, even with -l08:37
cjwatsonAh, pam_getenv works for /etc/environment but *not* for /etc/default/locale, even with -l08:37
cjwatsonMy memory is that -l was supposed to abstract across that transition, but maybe nobody got round to doing that08:38
cjwatsontvoss: hi08:38
tvosscjwatson, hey there :) do you remember our discussion on the symbol versioning topic? You mentioned a magic linker line08:39
cjwatsontvoss: What about symbol versioning, exactly?08:39
tvosscjwatson, for the platform api, we wanted to do something similar to glibc, with per-symbol versioning08:39
cjwatsonI expect you want a version script, then08:42
cjwatsonhttp://sourceware.org/binutils/docs-2.23.1/ld/VERSION.html#VERSION08:42
pitticjwatson: right, the manpage says that -l currently doesn't do anything08:45
pitticjwatson: so I use pam_getenv to read /etc/environment, and source /etc/default/locale08:46
cjwatsonYeah, your code looks OK for this08:46
cjwatsonPerhaps I should say that pam_getenv is not living up to its intended purpose, rather than "broken"08:47
pitticjwatson: ok, thanks; I didn't want to commit it before knowing what kind of breakage you meant08:47
cjwatsonI wasn't very clear, sorry :)08:47
pitticjwatson: ack; the manpage says it's just for parsing /etc/environment08:47
pitticjwatson: no worries; thanks a lot!08:47
cjwatsonRight, I realise the man page says that, but I remember the discussions when that command was introduced too :-)08:48
rbasakpitti: thanks!08:52
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VdragonHi, I would like to ask why Ubuntu don't pre-install all language packs (with/without input methods) on the standard installation media.  Since ISO image can no longer fit into CDs we have nearly 4GBs free space to make Live image more usable to those people not prefer en_US.10:15
cjwatsonWhile we don't have the CD constraint any more, there's still a trade-off.  The larger the image is, the more unattractive it is to download.10:17
cjwatsonSo we don't want to instantly grow by a considerable amount.10:17
cjwatsonWe might start gradually trickling in some more common languages, but not all of them.10:18
cjwatsonThere are also performance problems at installation time to consider; language packs preinstalled in the squashfs should generally be removed for installations in other languages, but that takes time (and perhaps a surprising amount of it).10:18
cousteauI miss the old days where you could put virtually anything in a single CD image10:32
Vdragoncjwatson: Thanks for your answer, however I didn't think the tradeoff is very considerable if we take account average speed of internet(mirror) and disk(USB 3s, SSD) in recent days.10:33
cjwatsonI'm afraid I respectfully disagree10:34
Vdragon@cousteau: I prefer using LiveUSB if available ;)10:35
udevbotError: "cousteau:" is not a valid command.10:35
Vdragoncousteau: I prefer using LiveUSB if available ;)10:35
cousteau...@ as a bot trigger?  weird, never seen that10:35
Vdragoncjwatson: Me too.  Anyway have a good day :)10:36
cjwatson(Speaking as somebody at the wrong end of a pretty slow connection, even in a supposedly developed country)10:36
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Vdragoncousteau: my fault :P10:37
cousteauBack in the day I carried a Knoppix 5.1 CD.  That thing carried EVERY PROGRAM you could think of!  Compilers, manpages...  it was pretty nice.10:37
cousteauthere was also Musix, with lots of multimedia programs (I think it basically had all Linux multimedia programs I've ever known about)10:38
cousteauand, of course, Ubuntu10:38
cousteaubut times change and software seems to get huger for no apparent reason10:38
Vdragoncousteau: cool!10:44
cousteauno, not cool.  I miss the old days of Hardy. It looked so nice...10:45
mok0Ah, the Hardy Heron. I remember it well10:56
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smbinfinity, I updated bug 1064475 and added several backports of crash to my 4infinity folder on chinstrap (backports are saucy version minus the armhf in the control file). Raring is not necessarily broken but I thought it might be less pain to have them all the same. Up to your decision I guess. And yeah, xen is also there.13:48
ubottubug 1064475 in crash (Ubuntu Quantal) "crash version is outdated. Needs to import Debian version of the package" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106447513:48
infinitysmb: Any reason to remove armhf from the control file on backport?13:50
infinitysmb: Do only 3.8+ kernels support crash on ARM?13:50
smbinfinity, Well I thought we had not built it for arm back then and only start with S13:50
infinitysmb: Sure, but was that because the package didn't work back then (and does now), because of silly historical cruft, or because it won't work with those kernels?13:52
infinitysmb: If it's either of the first two reasons, there's no reason to continue to prevent it building.13:52
smbinfinity, I could not say. It probably builds back then but I had no way of testing. And I thought starting to build a package for an architecture it was not build on release was a reason not to start with it on a backport.13:54
infinitysmb: Nah, there's no such rule.  If an FTBFS or some other backported upstream code fix/change makes it magically work on a new arch, artificially limiting it to not build on that arch is silly.13:54
infinitysmb: If anyone has written such a rule, it should be found and purged with fire as a case of "overly strict rules being user-hostile".13:55
infinitysmb: "You could have this package, but we won't let you, nyah nyah" wouldn't look good in a changelog. ;)13:55
cjwatsonAlso, there's no reason to be strict about that, because a package that simply didn't exist at all before is exceedingly unlikely to constitute a regression by appearing13:56
smbinfinity, There isn't a written down rule I know of. It was more an assumption not to introduce something new into the archive as a backport would be better. And the changlog just does not say "added armhf". So who would know... :-P13:57
infinitycjwatson: Rare corner-cases where this isn't true, like if that package is in a recommends-chain from something people generally have installed, and now it magically gets pulled in.13:57
infinitycjwatson: But it would have to be severely broken *and* in a recommends chain for that to be a regression.13:57
smbinfinity, Maybe you can try to sbuild the saucy package on your arm box on r,q,p and if that works, I recreate the source debs with the armhf back in...?13:58
cjwatsoninfinity: indeed13:58
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tvossslangasek, around?14:20
jibelpitti, in bug 1189485 apport retracer added a comment but didn't set it as duplicate, is this a known issue ?14:21
ubottubug 1189485 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118948514:21
pittijibel: hm, did you mark it as dupe yourself?14:33
jibelpitti, I did after the retracer said he did but didn't14:33
pitti    self.close_duplicate(report, id, master_id)14:34
pitti[...]14:34
pittilazr.restfulclient.errors.ServerError: HTTP Error 504: Gateway Time-out14:34
pittijibel: so, LP glitch :/14:34
pittijibel: thanks for cleaning it up14:34
jibelpitti, ok, np14:34
* pitti restarts the amd64 retracer then14:34
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pittithomi: would you mind adding me to the ~autopilot team? I'm currently reviewing the -gtk bugs, and would like to do some triaging there, but I can't do that properly without being a team member14:53
slangasektvoss: hi15:01
Riddellpitti: any ideas on what's upsetting pkgbinarymangler on this build? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142096598/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.opencolorio_1.0.8%2Brepack1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:03
infinityRiddell: "Found files in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages (must be in dist-packages for python2.7)"?15:07
cjwatsonUsing dh_python2 would probably sort that out.15:09
cjwatsonYou don't seem to be using any Python helper at all there right now, which is very likely a mistake.15:09
OdyXtkamppeter: did you see http://bugs.debian.org/711868 ? Apparently we never re-applied colord-support.patch in cups 1.6.2 . Is it still neededor would Alexey's patch be sufficient now.15:10
ubottuDebian bug 711868 in cups-daemon "Regression: icc profiles not registered in colord" [Normal,Open]15:10
OdyXtkamppeter: also, to you have informations regarding the cups upstream bugtracker ? It's quite cumbersome to get issues reported/fixed without any other tracker than the Apple ID $thing that I refuse to touch with a remote stick,15:10
Riddellinfinity: mm yes15:12
infinityRiddell: See Colin's comments.15:12
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Riddellyep15:13
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pittiRiddell: at first sight, sounds like the change of default paths in saucy's automake? (that's a huge pain in the butt indeed)15:30
pittiRiddell: (in meeting, haven't looked into details yet)15:30
cjwatsonpitti: see scrollback, we've dealt with it15:31
pittiRiddell: doko added that plausibility check, so it's a deliberate build failure15:31
pitticjwatson: ah, right15:31
cjwatsonpitti: dh_python2 fixes these things up if it's actually run, regardless of what automake does, and dh_python2 ought to be run here anyway I'd have thought ...15:31
pittiyes, absolutely15:31
Riddellyep, fix uploaded, thanks pitti,cjwatson15:32
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loolpitti: hey, stgraber kindly pointed me at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-s-testing-technologies as the closest matching QA effort for the ofono / NM CP testing; would it be ok to list explicit tests for a) SIM card + optional XML db provisioning and b) binary SMS (DM/DS) based provisioning in there?  the latter is meant to allow us to add hooks for opcos that don't support a), but I think it's currently untested code15:37
pittilool: re (meeting)15:47
pittilool: I'm afraid I don't know what either of that means, but sure, please feel free to add some WIs15:47
pittilool: but as a starter we need to figure out how to do the most basic stuff (like detection and making a call/making a connection)15:47
pittigood night everyone15:57
didrockshave a good night pitti!15:58
loolpitti: Yup, this all makes sense16:23
loolpitti: I agree that simpler stuff is needed first, just wanted to have a place to list some high-level goals for testing the CP16:23
loolpitti: thanks!16:24
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tkamppeterOdyX, I was assuming that CUPS 1.6.x had adopted colord-support.patch upstream. Is this not the case? Perhaps there are bugs in the adoption. What is Alexey's patch about? Perhaps it can fix these bugs?17:02
tkamppeterOdyX, I have contacted Mike, telling him that it is really important to get the STR database back.17:09
tkamppeterOdyX, for the time being please report bugs and submit patches by contacting Mike directly.17:10
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bdmurraystgraber: I think I am experiencing bug 98146117:52
ubottubug 981461 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Precise) "Network interfaces are not correctly brought down on halt, disrupting Wake-on-LAN" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98146117:52
stgraberbdmurray: do you have ethtool installed?17:53
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stgraberbdmurray: ethtool eth0 | grep "Wake"17:54
bdmurray        Supports Wake-on: pumbg17:55
bdmurray        Wake-on: g17:55
bdmurrayI've tested with tcpdump and the system is receiving the magic packet when powered on17:55
stgraberbdmurray: and wake on lan is enabled in the BIOS?17:56
bdmurrayAdditionallly, there is no BIOS setting for it17:56
bdmurrayAnd I swear it used to work in 12.10 but I reinstalled recently and put 12.04 on that system17:56
stgraberok, odd. I haven't used wake on lan much since precise, but I have a dozen precise machines that certainly have it working17:57
stgraberIIRC the only thing I had to add to some of those was a "ethtool -s eth0 wol g" but what you pasted earlier already looks good and shouldn't need that workaround17:57
bdmurrayits a mythbuntu system fwiw17:57
stgraberbdmurray: just rechecked, the systems that have working wol here only have one extra setting which is "ethtool -s $1 wol g || true" as post-up command in ifupdown but you apparently don't need that in your case18:00
stgraberbdmurray: when the machine is off, do you see a link on the network card?18:00
bdmurraychecking18:00
bdmurrayhmm, nope18:02
stgraberok, so something is being a bit too efficient at shutting down the machine18:02
stgraberbdmurray: so are you actually using ifupdown on that machine? as in, are you network interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces instead of NetworkManager?18:03
bdmurraystgraber: no, I was not but then I added the interface to /e/n/i and nothing changed18:04
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stgraberok, I was just wondering if maybe ifupdown was doing something to bring the link down, but if you get the same under NetworkManager then that's not the case (the machines I use with wol use NetworkManager)18:05
bdmurrayhmm, okay I can wake it up from suspend18:05
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stgraberbdmurray: if you use "halt" to shut down the machine (but not cut power), do you see a link?18:07
bdmurraystgraber: yes18:11
stgraberbdmurray: ok, then it's not Ubuntu shutting down the link as the only difference between halt and poweroff is the final kernel call to cut power18:11
stgraberso extremely unlikely to be an issue with ifupdown or our init scripts18:12
stgraberbdmurray: what kernel are you using on those 12.04 systems?18:12
stgraber*that 12.04 system18:12
bdmurraystgraber: I just upgraded to the latest 12.04 one18:12
stgraberbdmurray: ok, so the non-backport 3.2 kernel then18:13
stgraberbdmurray: might be interesting to retry with the quantal and raring backport, see if that makes any difference18:13
bdmurraystgraber: okay, thanks18:14
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OdyXtkamppeter: for the colord support, cups 1.6 upstream indeed has a bug, which Alexey fixes. I'll drop colord-support.patch from the source package as it's deprecated.18:24
OdyXtkamppeter: great for cups' str, thanks. How are you in contact with Michael btw, msweet@ Apple ?18:26
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smoserslangasek, you have any idea what would 'start networking' on a system that was seemingly failing to bringup networking on boot ?19:24
smoserie, this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/118957119:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1189571 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "isc-dhcp client "Unable to set up timer: out of range" caused by bad 64_bit timer" [Undecided,Confirmed]19:24
smoserwas stoping networking from coming up on network-device-added19:24
smoserbut /var/log/upstrat would still have a 'networking' file with data in it.19:25
slangaseksmoser: not sure I understand the question. /etc/init/networking.conf is the catch-all job for network devices that don't generate network-device-added events.19:26
slangasekit runs unconditionally on boot.19:26
smoserit does ?19:26
slangasekyes19:27
smoserbah.19:27
slangasekas per the start condition, start on (local-filesystems and (stopped udevtrigger or container)) or [...]19:27
smoserwell that is it then19:27
smoser:)19:27
smoseryeah19:27
smoserduh19:27
smoseri had left over stuff in my head from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/103106519:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031065 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Precise) "cloud-init-nonet runs 'start networking' explicitly" [Medium,Fix released]19:32
smoserand thought that that was basically not supposed to be run other than manually19:32
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smoseranyone know what might have changed ...19:51
smoseris swear that i used to be able to do:19:52
smoserbzr bd -S -- -us -uc19:52
smoserthen sbuild -d saucy-amd64 --arch-all file.dsc19:52
smoserbut recently, i've been getting19:52
smoserE: E: Failed to copy '../isc-dhcp_4.2.4.orig.tar.gz' to '/«CHROOT»/«BUILDDIR»': No such file or directory19:52
infinityWell, does the file exist?19:54
smoserthe file *doesn't* exist, because i didnt build with '-sa'19:55
smoserbut i swear some magic used to make that work19:55
infinityWell, how do you expect sbuild to find the source if you don't have source?19:55
infinityI'm a bit puzzled. :P19:55
infinity-sa has nothing to do with it.19:55
infinity-sa defines what's in .changes, not in .dsc19:55
infinitySo, let's back up, and tell me what bzr bd is producing, and how.19:56
jbichasmoser: you don't need to make a .dsc for sbuild to work; sbuild -A -d saucy-amd64 is sufficient19:57
smoserjbicha, well, it was just my normal work flow. i didn't know that i didn't eed a .dsc. but its nice.19:58
smoserinfinity, well, doing -sa would tell (i think) bz rbd to copy its exported .orig.tar.gz to the same place it put the .dsc19:59
smoserno?19:59
jbichasmoser: one step further, in your ~/.bzr/builddeb.conf20:02
jbicha[BUILDDEB]20:02
jbichabuilder = sbuild -A -d saucy-amd6420:02
jbichathen bzr bd without arguments will build with your sbuild20:02
keesjcastro: tb meeting happening now, if you have a moment.20:03
smoseri didn't know about htat. but i'm not bothered too much by my wrapper 'sbuild-it' that reads .dsc or .changelog and picks the right release based on that.20:03
keesjcastro: ah, nm, found RT for brainstorm20:04
infinitysmoser: Oh, sure, bzr bd copies things around based on the changes, probably.  I dunno.  I don't use it.20:04
infinitysmoser: My point was more that a source package without all the components isn't actually a source package, so sbuild can't magically find the missing bits.20:04
smoserI WANT MAGIC!20:04
smoser:)20:04
jcastrokees: I can answer questions if you want20:05
smoserso i guess it could have bee na change in bzr builddep (version upgraded in saucy)20:05
keesjcastro: I was just checking on the status of the request, cjwatson found the RT. we're all good. :) thanks!20:06
jcastroack20:06
keescan someone besides me verify this, I'd like to get this closed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/117721820:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1177218 in faketime (Ubuntu) "[regression] segfault on raring" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:14
Sarvattkees: done20:20
keesSarvatt: thanks!20:20
DrFooIs there a known issue with mounting cifs share w/ a credentials file?20:27
DrFoo12.0420:27
smoserjdstrand, ping20:30
jdstrandsmoser: hey20:30
smoseris there a reason your release at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/saucy-changes/2013-May/001104.html is 'saucy-proposed' ?20:32
smoserjdstrand.20:32
infinitysmoser: Cause Jamie's weird and never got the memo about pocket rewriting? :)20:33
smoseri'm guessing it was inadvertant, but i'm uploading and wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong.20:33
smoseri think it might have caused the bzr importer to fail also20:33
jdstrandsmoser: istr an email from cjwa tson explaining how the new proposed mechanism worked that -proposed is technically correct, but that there is a redirection from saucy to saucy-proposed for people who don't use -proposed20:33
jdstrandif 'saucy' is actually correct, I'll stop20:34
* smoser doesn' tknow.20:34
infinityjdstrand: Both are "correct", but you're one of the few people still using -proposed (and I'm trying to discourage it).20:34
jdstrandseems infinity may have some insight20:34
jdstrandheh, funny20:34
* jdstrand shrugs20:34
jdstrandI guess I'll stop then, or maybe I'll continue to be an individual :)20:35
smoserjdstrand, infinity thanks.20:38
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cjwatsonsmoser: I don't really know its inner workings, but I'd be surprised if it made any difference either way to the importer.20:41
smoseri wouldnt have thoguht so either.20:41
smoserbut somethign busted it.20:41
smoser:-(20:41
smoseri import-dsc and pushed it20:41
cjwatsonI'm not going to try to guess at the cause :)20:42
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keesstgraber: do you happen to know how to tell kvm to load an external kernel to a specific location in memory when it acts as the boot loader?21:38
stgraberkees: nope, but maybe hallyn does21:39
stgraberhallyn: 21:38 < kees> stgraber: do you happen to know how to tell kvm to load an external kernel to a specific location in memory when it acts as the boot loader?21:39
keeshallyn: all I see is just "-kernel", but it'd be nice to bump it around in memory when I've built with CONFIG_RELOCATABLE21:39
DrFooCan someone test mounting a cifs share using a credentials file. I've followed all the instructions and syntax I could find on the web and it's telling me I haven't specified a username. There is an old bug for this, but it must have been resolved by now.21:50
zygahey it's after midnight22:07
zygaand this is the wrong channel22:08
hallynkees: sorry, i don't22:10
hallyni do, however, need to talk to the cable chaps about why around 4pm (when it gets hot) my internet gets flaky22:10
keeshallyn: heh22:12
hallynyeah you'd think that'd be an option.  not finding it22:12
bkerensajbicha: can you pop into #ubuntu-meeting?22:33
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