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darkxstjbicha, so when adding an UOA account, I see e-d-s in the dropdown list. But once installed there is no toggle to turn e-d-s integration on/off00:41
jbichaI actually uninstalled UOA today ;)00:42
darkxstheh, that will fix it!00:47
jbichaI think tomorrow's ISO won't have UOA on it either00:49
darkxstjbicha, credentials-cc-panel-Message: cc-credentials-providers-model.vala:109: No desktop app info found for application name: evolution-data-server01:50
jbichadarkxst: I'm the wrong guy for you, I'm boycotting UOA today! ;)01:58
darkxstlol01:58
jbichahmm, now EDS pulls in parts of UOA :|03:39
jbichawell at least it's not the visible parts03:40
darkxstjbicha, signond?03:41
jbichayeah, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-gnome.saucy/desktop03:41
jbichaI was hoping to have gotten rid of qt03:42
darkxstwhy is a daemon written in qt?03:42
jbichauh because UOA was derived from meego's accounts thing03:51
jbichasoall I need is to get libsignon-glib1 to stop depending on signond04:07
darkxstbut empathy pulls in signond also04:07
jbichanot really :)04:08
darkxstdo we really need fonts-nanum  and example-content?04:23
jbichaalmost every flavor ships nanum for Korean support04:31
GibsonHi05:13
darkxsthi05:14
Gibson:) I like me some gnome 3 ubuntu so I thought I'd say hi05:15
meeton 13.04, during startup I just get the default blue stripped wallpaper for 5-10 seconds then my desktop is shown.no splash image is visible during start up. is this by default?11:17
meet*64-bit11:18
topyliit's a bit too long of a time to wait, but yes i think it's just starting the shell and the rest of the session during that time11:27
topylino splash11:27
meettopyli: How much is the normal wait time?12:08
n0ydHey guys15:34
n0ydEver since I started using gnome3 as a serious desktop (ie, daily) I have noticed something, I would call it a graphical "glitch15:35
n0ydIt doesn't affect performance so I have said anything, but its been going on since at least 3.615:36
n0ydBasically, if I run chrome (or chromium iirc), the lettering on the tabs gets a little odd15:36
n0ydLike one of the tabs always will have a little graphical glitch with the lettering, and you mouse over and you can make the glitching move a tiny bit. The gllitching just effects sz small part of maybe 2-3 letters at a time I would say, and its like it turns the letters white15:37
n0ydBut, like I said not the whole letters usually, just a piece of 1 or 2 letters at a time15:38
n0ydI think it might have happened under unity also, though I cant say for sure as I rarely used unity, and its been awhile.  I am pretty sure it has something to do with compositing.15:39
n0ydI just took a screenshot to see if it captured it and it did.  Gonna upload now15:39
n0ydHere is the fullsize imagte, I didnt resize it cause the "artifacting" I guess you would call it, is so small I wanted it to be clearly visible15:41
n0ydhttp://s21.postimg.org/f6deixip1/Screenshot_from_2013_06_10_11_38_35.png15:41
n0ydObviously the right monitor, with chrome fullscreen. Its the tab containing this webchat. Soime obvious artifacting with the d and it almost looks like the o and e are greyish compared to the "Freen" part15:43
n0ydLike I said, it changes depending on what tabs are open when I mouse over the tab it changes location, etc.  Im just wondering if there is any troubleshooting I could do for this. I/'ve looked around oin the net ALOT and cannot find someone with the same issue15:44
n0ydIt's just a basic Intel GFX setup.   GMA350015:44
n0ydI am usiung x0org-edger, but that dpoesnt make a difference it happens either way.  And I need to use edger ppa for the newer mesa package in order for steam games to work on these intel cards15:45
n0ydIs there maybe a way to disable compositing for certain windows, like you could with compiz?15:46
n0ydI know compiz you could at least disable compositing for fullscreen windows.  Im just thinking of ways to troubleshoot this, cause its had me stumped for a couple months now at least15:47
n0ydI guess no one is around right now, but I will stick around and idle for awhile. So if anyone has ideas, ping/hilight me so I notice. Thanks in advance :)15:48
n0ydricotz: btw, been playing with plank, I like it alot :)16:05
n0ydGood work, thanks!16:06
n0yd"stuidly simple" :P that made me happy when I first saw that16:07
n0ydI am all about that KISS ideals16:07
n0ydricotz: re: planki are there any cool mods and things people hyave made for it? Im really interested in expanding it in some ways, I think its a grest simple dock, byut just like conky for instance, configuragtion is awesome16:11
n0ydHmm, I think I just found a bug in evolution, maybe only present in the gnome3 ppa, so I dont wanna report it in case16:20
n0ydBut when you try marking something as junk, it gives an error about trying to run bogofilter, which must be a dep to part of its spam ffiltering I am guessing16:21
n0ydonce bogofilter is installed from normal repos, it works fine16:21
n0ydWow, how did I not know about apt-fast until now.  Its really useful when you have a fast connection, even when using the "fastest" mirror selected.16:30
n0ydI have it set it maqx of 8 connections at once, and the speed increase is really notiacble with just 25Mbps16:30
ricotzn0yd, thanks, regarding plank, if you have programming experience and know vala feel free to contribute features -- also you can take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~docky-core/docky/plank-docky16:52
n0ydthank you :)16:52
n0ydricotz: Also, if you have any idea on my issue regarding the graphical "artifacting" I wrote about above, feel free to chime in16:53
ricotzn0yd, the fonts problems could be a harfbuzz/pango bug, you really want to shorten your description and look for upstream bugs16:57
n0ydya i did, a lot16:57
n0yd:-/16:57
n0ydbut now that you gave me an idea, it may help16:58
ricotzthere already is/was a webfonts rendering problem16:58
n0ydya I saw something, but I dont think that deals with the tabs, not sure though16:58
n0ydIm curious if it happens on other GPU's or nott. I do know it happens on all versions of chrome, stable, beta, dev.16:59
ricotzn0yd, btw, please address plank related things in #elementary-dev or #plank17:00
n0ydk cool17:00
ricotzn0yd, i see, i am pretty much only using firefox17:00
n0ydI often have 30+ tabs open, and I found chrome handles them better17:01
n0ydAnd the java engine is certainly faster17:01
n0ydBut I still like FF, it was the first viable alternative to IE in Windows, and helped spread web standards and such17:02
n0ydbbiab17:06
bjsniderwhat's plank?17:13
camelinahatbjsnider, http://wiki.go-docky.com/?title=Plank:Introduction17:19
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cmp2488hey, for the past week or so dist-upgrade has wanted to remove 375 packages.. most of them important.. including gnome-shell.. has anybody else run into this?19:23
jbichacmp2488: bug 1187938 suggests running  sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-019:25
ubot5bug 1187938 in Ubuntu GNOME "gnome3 ppa dependencies broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118793819:25
cmp2488great, thanks a lot :-)19:29
n0ydricotz: I think i just fixed that chrome tab glitch thing, in an unexpected manner19:46
n0ydit hasnt appeared for the last 10 min, and before it was ALWAYS there.  I added an extension that changes something in the chrome notify-osd thning to use the linux native theme19:46
n0ydit doesnt change the look of anything really except extensions/webapps that have notify-osd windows19:47
n0ydDamn, it just came back. I wonder why it randomly went away for a bit :(19:48
Ponch0Hey guys, my scroll bars on the side of windows don't have up or down arrow, how do I add them?23:06
darkxstPonch0, I think that is set by the theme23:22
jbichadarkxst: thanks for suggesting removing example-content, it's just 2 files these days and not very helpful23:22
darkxstjbicha, :)23:22
darkxstdid you manage to get rid of qt?23:23
jbichadarkxst: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/libsignon-glib/dont-depend-on-signond/+merge/16849623:24
jbichahttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/701903 is important to get fixed though23:25
ubot5Gnome bug 701903 in UOA "If built with --enable-ubuntu-online-accounts, accounts dialog always opens the UOA one" [Normal,Unconfirmed]23:25
darkxstjbicha, actually signond is not really the problem, its signon-ui which is pulling in most of the cruft23:27
darkxstsignond only uses23:29
darkxstlibQt5DBus.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5DBus.so.5 (0x00007f20b426d000)23:29
darkxstlibQt5Sql.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Sql.so.5 (0x00007f20b402f000)23:29
darkxstlibQt5Core.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5 (0x00007f20b3a1a000)23:29
jbichait still saves several MB (libqt5core5 and libqt5network5) and if we're not using it...23:38
darkxstbut is should be possible to pull in UOA without pulling in all the other qt bloat23:39
jbichadarkxst: does gnome-control-center-signong needs signon-ui?23:40
darkxstjbicha, no23:41
jbichaoh...23:41
darkxsthmm maybe some of the plugins do though23:44
jbichayeah, libaccount-plugin-(generic-oauth/google) > signon-plugin-oauth2 > signon-ui23:49

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