[00:41] <darkxst> jbicha, so when adding an UOA account, I see e-d-s in the dropdown list. But once installed there is no toggle to turn e-d-s integration on/off
[00:42] <jbicha> I actually uninstalled UOA today ;)
[00:47] <darkxst> heh, that will fix it!
[00:49] <jbicha> I think tomorrow's ISO won't have UOA on it either
[01:50] <darkxst> jbicha, credentials-cc-panel-Message: cc-credentials-providers-model.vala:109: No desktop app info found for application name: evolution-data-server
[01:58] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm the wrong guy for you, I'm boycotting UOA today! ;)
[01:58] <darkxst> lol
[03:39] <jbicha> hmm, now EDS pulls in parts of UOA :|
[03:40] <jbicha> well at least it's not the visible parts
[03:41] <darkxst> jbicha, signond?
[03:41] <jbicha> yeah, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu-gnome.saucy/desktop
[03:42] <jbicha> I was hoping to have gotten rid of qt
[03:42] <darkxst> why is a daemon written in qt?
[03:51] <jbicha> uh because UOA was derived from meego's accounts thing
[04:07] <jbicha> soall I need is to get libsignon-glib1 to stop depending on signond
[04:07] <darkxst> but empathy pulls in signond also
[04:08] <jbicha> not really :)
[04:23] <darkxst> do we really need fonts-nanum  and example-content?
[04:31] <jbicha> almost every flavor ships nanum for Korean support
[05:13] <Gibson> Hi
[05:14] <darkxst> hi
[05:15] <Gibson> :) I like me some gnome 3 ubuntu so I thought I'd say hi
[11:17] <meet> on 13.04, during startup I just get the default blue stripped wallpaper for 5-10 seconds then my desktop is shown.no splash image is visible during start up. is this by default?
[11:18] <meet> *64-bit
[11:27] <topyli> it's a bit too long of a time to wait, but yes i think it's just starting the shell and the rest of the session during that time
[11:27] <topyli> no splash
[12:08] <meet> topyli: How much is the normal wait time?
[15:34] <n0yd> Hey guys
[15:35] <n0yd> Ever since I started using gnome3 as a serious desktop (ie, daily) I have noticed something, I would call it a graphical "glitch
[15:36] <n0yd> It doesn't affect performance so I have said anything, but its been going on since at least 3.6
[15:36] <n0yd> Basically, if I run chrome (or chromium iirc), the lettering on the tabs gets a little odd
[15:37] <n0yd> Like one of the tabs always will have a little graphical glitch with the lettering, and you mouse over and you can make the glitching move a tiny bit. The gllitching just effects sz small part of maybe 2-3 letters at a time I would say, and its like it turns the letters white
[15:38] <n0yd> But, like I said not the whole letters usually, just a piece of 1 or 2 letters at a time
[15:39] <n0yd> I think it might have happened under unity also, though I cant say for sure as I rarely used unity, and its been awhile.  I am pretty sure it has something to do with compositing.
[15:39] <n0yd> I just took a screenshot to see if it captured it and it did.  Gonna upload now
[15:41] <n0yd> Here is the fullsize imagte, I didnt resize it cause the "artifacting" I guess you would call it, is so small I wanted it to be clearly visible
[15:41] <n0yd> http://s21.postimg.org/f6deixip1/Screenshot_from_2013_06_10_11_38_35.png
[15:43] <n0yd> Obviously the right monitor, with chrome fullscreen. Its the tab containing this webchat. Soime obvious artifacting with the d and it almost looks like the o and e are greyish compared to the "Freen" part
[15:44] <n0yd> Like I said, it changes depending on what tabs are open when I mouse over the tab it changes location, etc.  Im just wondering if there is any troubleshooting I could do for this. I/'ve looked around oin the net ALOT and cannot find someone with the same issue
[15:44] <n0yd> It's just a basic Intel GFX setup.   GMA3500
[15:45] <n0yd> I am usiung x0org-edger, but that dpoesnt make a difference it happens either way.  And I need to use edger ppa for the newer mesa package in order for steam games to work on these intel cards
[15:46] <n0yd> Is there maybe a way to disable compositing for certain windows, like you could with compiz?
[15:47] <n0yd> I know compiz you could at least disable compositing for fullscreen windows.  Im just thinking of ways to troubleshoot this, cause its had me stumped for a couple months now at least
[15:48] <n0yd> I guess no one is around right now, but I will stick around and idle for awhile. So if anyone has ideas, ping/hilight me so I notice. Thanks in advance :)
[16:05] <n0yd> ricotz: btw, been playing with plank, I like it alot :)
[16:06] <n0yd> Good work, thanks!
[16:07] <n0yd> "stuidly simple" :P that made me happy when I first saw that
[16:07] <n0yd> I am all about that KISS ideals
[16:11] <n0yd> ricotz: re: planki are there any cool mods and things people hyave made for it? Im really interested in expanding it in some ways, I think its a grest simple dock, byut just like conky for instance, configuragtion is awesome
[16:20] <n0yd> Hmm, I think I just found a bug in evolution, maybe only present in the gnome3 ppa, so I dont wanna report it in case
[16:21] <n0yd> But when you try marking something as junk, it gives an error about trying to run bogofilter, which must be a dep to part of its spam ffiltering I am guessing
[16:21] <n0yd> once bogofilter is installed from normal repos, it works fine
[16:30] <n0yd> Wow, how did I not know about apt-fast until now.  Its really useful when you have a fast connection, even when using the "fastest" mirror selected.
[16:30] <n0yd> I have it set it maqx of 8 connections at once, and the speed increase is really notiacble with just 25Mbps
[16:52] <ricotz> n0yd, thanks, regarding plank, if you have programming experience and know vala feel free to contribute features -- also you can take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~docky-core/docky/plank-docky
[16:52] <n0yd> thank you :)
[16:53] <n0yd> ricotz: Also, if you have any idea on my issue regarding the graphical "artifacting" I wrote about above, feel free to chime in
[16:57] <ricotz> n0yd, the fonts problems could be a harfbuzz/pango bug, you really want to shorten your description and look for upstream bugs
[16:57] <n0yd> ya i did, a lot
[16:57] <n0yd> :-/
[16:58] <n0yd> but now that you gave me an idea, it may help
[16:58] <ricotz> there already is/was a webfonts rendering problem
[16:58] <n0yd> ya I saw something, but I dont think that deals with the tabs, not sure though
[16:59] <n0yd> Im curious if it happens on other GPU's or nott. I do know it happens on all versions of chrome, stable, beta, dev.
[17:00] <ricotz> n0yd, btw, please address plank related things in #elementary-dev or #plank
[17:00] <n0yd> k cool
[17:00] <ricotz> n0yd, i see, i am pretty much only using firefox
[17:01] <n0yd> I often have 30+ tabs open, and I found chrome handles them better
[17:01] <n0yd> And the java engine is certainly faster
[17:02] <n0yd> But I still like FF, it was the first viable alternative to IE in Windows, and helped spread web standards and such
[17:06] <n0yd> bbiab
[17:13] <bjsnider> what's plank?
[17:19] <camelinahat> bjsnider, http://wiki.go-docky.com/?title=Plank:Introduction
[19:23] <cmp2488> hey, for the past week or so dist-upgrade has wanted to remove 375 packages.. most of them important.. including gnome-shell.. has anybody else run into this?
[19:25] <jbicha> cmp2488: bug 1187938 suggests running  sudo apt-get install libpango1.0-0
[19:29] <cmp2488> great, thanks a lot :-)
[19:46] <n0yd> ricotz: I think i just fixed that chrome tab glitch thing, in an unexpected manner
[19:46] <n0yd> it hasnt appeared for the last 10 min, and before it was ALWAYS there.  I added an extension that changes something in the chrome notify-osd thning to use the linux native theme
[19:47] <n0yd> it doesnt change the look of anything really except extensions/webapps that have notify-osd windows
[19:48] <n0yd> Damn, it just came back. I wonder why it randomly went away for a bit :(
[23:06] <Ponch0> Hey guys, my scroll bars on the side of windows don't have up or down arrow, how do I add them?
[23:22] <darkxst> Ponch0, I think that is set by the theme
[23:22] <jbicha> darkxst: thanks for suggesting removing example-content, it's just 2 files these days and not very helpful
[23:22] <darkxst> jbicha, :)
[23:23] <darkxst> did you manage to get rid of qt?
[23:24] <jbicha> darkxst: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/libsignon-glib/dont-depend-on-signond/+merge/168496
[23:25] <jbicha> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/701903 is important to get fixed though
[23:27] <darkxst> jbicha, actually signond is not really the problem, its signon-ui which is pulling in most of the cruft
[23:29] <darkxst> signond only uses
[23:29] <darkxst> 	libQt5DBus.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5DBus.so.5 (0x00007f20b426d000)
[23:29] <darkxst> 	libQt5Sql.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Sql.so.5 (0x00007f20b402f000)
[23:29] <darkxst> 	libQt5Core.so.5 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5 (0x00007f20b3a1a000)
[23:38] <jbicha> it still saves several MB (libqt5core5 and libqt5network5) and if we're not using it...
[23:39] <darkxst> but is should be possible to pull in UOA without pulling in all the other qt bloat
[23:40] <jbicha> darkxst: does gnome-control-center-signong needs signon-ui?
[23:41] <darkxst> jbicha, no
[23:41] <jbicha> oh...
[23:44] <darkxst> hmm maybe some of the plugins do though
[23:49] <jbicha> yeah, libaccount-plugin-(generic-oauth/google) > signon-plugin-oauth2 > signon-ui