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serejeus: mv that font to ~ and run that command again and see if you get a invalid cache file00:01
jeussere, use clementine00:01
serejeus: i dont like clementine much :/.. they taste good though :)00:02
jeussere , is very Difficult  way . +500 font00:03
serejeus: just that one font00:04
serejeus: my guess is that font is giving you your problem00:04
jeussere, i see very other font in .fonts that not install00:05
chalcedonysomeone i'm working with has 12.04 and is having problems with overheating, is there something they should look at?00:06
jeussere, where are u from ?00:06
sysRPLcan anyone help me here? i am on ubuntu with gnome and i was running dolphin as my file manager. today i tried to send delete files using dolphin and it got hung up so i closed the app and rebooted, now when i try yo launch dolphin nothing happens. when i typed'dolphin' in a terminal the prompt doesn't return and nothing opens. i tried deleting my ~/kde folder and still nothing opens.00:06
serejeus: usa, texas00:07
eliezerbchalcedony, I was heaving this problem00:07
jeussere, I'm from IRAN, kerman00:07
eliezerbops having00:08
serejeus: oh cool00:08
jeussere, which cool ?00:08
niarghAny idea about preventing hibernation when laptop lid closed?00:09
niarghEven though proper settings in Power settings00:09
serejeus: that cool. that u live there00:11
bazhang!ot | sere jeus00:11
ubottusere jeus: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:11
sereniargh: with your power manage i believe00:11
niarghsere: the power settings are set to 'do nothing' when lid closed00:12
seremute bazhang!00:12
elisa87histo: hi...what should I do if fsck and boot-repair took me to initramfs again? mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on00:13
elisa87/root failed: Invalid argument00:13
sereniargh: did you check on battery and on ac power?00:13
OiCoryHey guys, I'm developing a program in C, I'm from Windows whre we have Visual, but what are some suggestions for gui based suits in Ubunut?00:13
niarghsere: yep00:13
Dr_willis!ide | OiCory00:13
ubottuOiCory: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator00:13
elisa87OiCory: code::blocks00:13
chalcedony*hugs* good to see you Dr_willis :)00:13
Dr_williselisa87,  check the uuid is the same as the actual partition?00:13
sereniargh: sorry i dunno.. i use xfce power manager00:14
elisa87how should I do so Dr_willis00:14
niarghsere: thanks anyway00:14
goddardAMD has open source drivers for the 7xxx series?00:14
OiCoryelisa87: I saw code blocks, i liked it, but wanted to get some more opinions. Thanks!00:14
Dr_williselisa87,  check what UUID its usibng.. and what 'sudo blikid' says for the partions UUID00:14
elisa87by-uuid is mounting disk which is righ I believe /dev/sda5: UUID="3ad92531-9261-4275-a450-350888f67e0c" TYPE="ext4"  Dr_willis00:18
jeussere, thats work . i move all fonts and return that which need00:18
jeussere, thank u00:19
serejeus: great! your welcome :)00:19
jeussere, can i have your Gmail ID00:19
serejeus: sure i messages you00:22
jeussere, thank you.00:22
SexyGirlGmy skype am a hot girl add em guys  : rose.mourad00:22
serejeus: your welcome00:22
rotoss/00:23
tom[]where are the iptables bins on 12.04.2? they are not in /sbin on my server00:23
Dr_williselisa87,  and 'sudo blkid' shows that as the same UUID? that is your / partition?00:24
mikodoDoes running a solid state drive for Vbox install of Windows significantly tax a mobo over the long run (using it days on end), and reduce it's longevity, compared to using windows on it's own solid state drive natively? I am going to replace and have two new drives in my machine, one solid state for my /root installs, a platter for /media/DATA drive.00:24
mikodoMy computerhttp://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=100:24
Dr_willismikodo,  i cant imagine how using it would really reduce its longevity.00:25
Dr_willismikodo,  vbox is acessing a virtual hd file on the drive. so it dosent know its a ssd or not. Linux has tweaks for fstab to help ssd ussage a bit.00:26
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elisa87Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750162/00:26
mikodoDr_willis, Thank you.00:27
Dr_williselisa87,  if you are just using 4 partions.. i would setup 4 primary partions next time you install. guess sda5 is your /   since its the only linux partion that can be / ;)00:27
Dr_williselisa87,  and that UUID matches the one given by the error message?00:28
serebanshee doesnt seem to update my mp3s like rhythmbox...i have to keep rescan the database everytime i add a file? is that normal00:28
DraconianZhey00:29
bindihow can I change the sound device used by siggen? I tried creating ~/.siggen.conf that says "DACFILE /dev/snd/by-path/blabla"00:29
bindikeeps trying to use /dev/dsp.sorry if its not an ubuntu question00:30
elisa87Dr_willis:  sda5 is linux one and it's UIUD is the same as I get as an error in mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/3ad ... on  /root failed invalid argument  (ALERT!  /host/256 doesn't exist) and I don't know what to do?00:30
mikodoDr_willis, Where would I read about tweaks for fstab? One answer is fine like .... search "---------" Thank you.00:31
elisa87Dr_willis:  and I have done all these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750057/ none were successful!00:31
bindiargh! i have a problem: ive got a mini laptop with a dead screen, and it was a PITA to get ubuntu installed (did this a year ago), now that I need the laptop, I cant get it updated anymore - it has ubuntu 11.0400:32
bindidist-upgrade gives me 40400:32
wilee-nileemikodo,  use this link on my SSD, https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd00:33
Guest1450how do i make a usb installer of 13.0400:33
mikodowilliammanda, Thank you sir.00:33
wilee-nileeGuest1450, unetbootin is one app of many00:33
Guest1450wilee-nilee: i have run across it but really don't understand how, most posing say to make a live installer, but i have the iso and just want to put it on a usb and make it bootable00:34
mikodowilee-nilee, Wonderful, "Easy Linux tips project" are always on the money. Good job!00:35
wilee-nileeGuest1450, Unetbootin has a disc image tick, you then navigate to the download and choose it and run it.00:36
xanguaGuest1450: there are instructions on ubuntu.com00:36
wilee-nileemikodo, It is a thorough explanation with different variables, such as if you have a separate home.00:37
sereGuest1450: multisystem is a nice program00:38
wilee-nileeGuest1450, What OS are you doing this in?00:38
mikodowilee-nilee, I'll have a separate /mount/DATA drive., symlinked to /root installs on the SSD. So should be good.00:39
mikodowilee-nilee, I just have to get my head around sharing folders from virtual drive to my /mount/DATA drive before symlinking them back to the /root installs. Should be fun.00:41
epsilonorionso I was trying to setup ubuntu with a ssd but moved /usr to a partition on a hdd (realizing this didn't help the speed too late).  Can anyone confirm my assumption that I should not move /usr to the hdd but only move the /usr/local?  If so, I guess I just deal with the space being eaten up when installing files00:42
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wilee-nileeepsilonorion, You mean the .local in home?00:44
epsilonorionno /usr partition  /usr/local partition00:44
epsilonorionfolders00:44
epsilonorionsorry00:44
wilee-nileepretty small folder here /usr/local00:44
epsilonorionI was working on splitting folders into separate partitions so I can reduce the amount of space and writes used on the ssd00:44
wilee-nilee20MB00:44
epsilonorionwilee-nilee: agreed00:45
epsilonorionI moved opt, then thought I needed to move /usr as well, however, when I did the entire boot slowed down00:45
epsilonorionby that I assume I should leave /usr on the ssd00:45
epsilonorionand only move opt and home onto the hdd00:45
wilee-nileeepsilonorion, You can tweak the setup for a ssd that is your best route really, unless you have a a lot of data best run from a disc HD.00:46
epsilonorionwilee-nilee: huh?00:46
epsilonorionI am tweaking the ssd00:46
epsilonorionI am trying to figure out the best way to00:46
Dr_willisaskubuntu.com and the various blog sites mention ssd tweaks.00:46
Dr_willisI think theres only like 2 or 3 options to add to /etc/fstab  for most people00:46
epsilonorionDr_willis: thanks, I am doing those, but some suggestions were moving folders to the hdd as well00:47
wilee-nileeepsilonorion, Here is a link I posted earlier for SSD tweaks. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd00:47
epsilonorionspecifically opt00:47
Dr_willismy whole linux box is running on a ssd i dont see much to gain by moving  things to a non ssd if i got the space00:47
wilee-nileeSame here00:47
Dr_willisit will just make things slower to load.00:47
sereis an ssd os faster?00:48
epsilonorionthanks, I will definitely take a look at those (some I have seen other places).  I would love to, but lets assume I dont have the space (not everyone does) since I have windows installed as well00:48
wilee-nileemine is00:48
zephyr28could someone please explain to me how to completely remove the OpenJRE/JDK system of packages??00:49
wilee-nilee! jdk00:49
Dr_willismy system boots in like 10-15 seconds to the Ubuntu desktop from SSD.00:49
wilee-nilee! jre00:50
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.00:50
wilee-nileezephyr28, See the wiki the bot shows.00:50
sereDr_willis: is it just a regular install.. and will usb be just as fast?00:50
epsilonorionI know keeping everything on the ssd would make it faster, but i can't.  I need to figure out the best folders to move.  I figured opt and home were primary00:50
sereim on a acer mini and its not that fast so any way to speed it up would be awesome00:51
zephyr28Thanks, wilee-nilee.  Can't develope for Android with OpenJDK00:51
Dr_willisrunning from a USB flash drive will be slower then a hard drive00:51
Dr_willisepsilonorion,  if you want slow access to your home :)00:51
Dr_willismy whole ubuntu system is on a 128gb SSD00:52
Dr_willisthings like video bulk storage - i got a extra 3TB hard drive.00:52
epsilonorionDr_willis: again, assuming I have no choice since I also have windows, lots of programs that I absolutely need to run fast, etc. on my ssd00:52
epsilonorionr00:52
Dr_willisfitting windows totally on a SSD can be the issue. :) its so huge compared to linux00:52
epsilonorionthanks though, I understand what you are saying, but I just need to know what the best folders are to move over.00:53
Dr_willistotally depenss on what work you are doing.00:53
Dr_willisas to whats best00:53
Dr_willisif the user is doing a lot of file access and work, then putting their home on the non ssd would hamper them00:53
Dr_willisif all they do is web surf.. it may not matter much at all00:54
epsilonorionwell, my assumption is that lots of programs install in opt.  If I install manually, etc, I can install them at home.  I can treat this like my windows setup.  Fast programs go on ssd program files folder, slow programs go on hdd00:54
Dr_willisepsilonorion,  lots install to /opt/ ? actually i have NONE in /opt at all.00:54
Dr_willisstuff from the repos defainatly do not install to /opt/00:54
epsilonorioneh, a lot of my development programs do00:54
epsilonorionother than that is is /usr00:54
Dr_willis /opt/ is just sort of a dumping ground for stuff. ;)00:54
Dr_willisso it depends on if you need to access those in /opt/ fast or not00:55
Dr_willisits rather trivial to link /opt/ or other / dirs to somewhere on the non ssd :)00:55
joe1980hi guys00:56
Dr_willisyou could even move just some users homes to  the hd.00:56
joe1980which is the channel for problems to open  virtualbox on the ububtu 1300:56
joe1980?00:56
Dr_willis#vbox or here - would be my guess00:57
Dr_willisand of course the forums and askubuntu.com00:57
joe1980i was checking on the foruns did all that i can00:57
joe1980but it did not work00:57
epsilonorionDr_willis: single user laptop.  Only 30-40GB if lucky of my ssd can be dedicated to ubuntu and such.  That is my predicament.  That is why I plan on moving some stuff to the hdd.  Home was primary, thought about moving opt then since, opencv, ros, etc are installed there00:58
Dr_willisi dont even do any development work.. and 30gb for my whole system would be a bit tight. ;)00:58
Dr_willisbut i do have like 20+gb of just wallpapers and icons ive collected over the years.00:59
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wilee-nilee20 gigs of wallpapers would take a long time to look through01:00
Dr_willisi got them from my amiga days collection even. :)01:01
Dr_willisback then a 600x400 image was Huge. ;P01:01
wilee-nileecool01:01
Dr_willis16 color leetness!01:01
nickgermainei created a new user because my initial one got corrupted.  now i can not sudo in the new account, i get: hey, i can't sudo, I get this error in my new user account: nickgermaine is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.01:02
nickgermainedisregard the "hey, i can't sudo, "01:02
Dr_willis you have to add the user to the proper group.01:03
nickgermaineok thanks01:03
Dr_willishow did you create the user?01:03
nickgermainethrough the user interface in xfce01:03
Dr_willisi still have to wonder what 'got currupted' in the original user.01:03
Dr_willisyou dident delete the origial user did you>01:03
nickgermainethanks i got me added01:04
mikodoWould a stripped down XP in a VB .vdi, be safe even after EOL. I'll of course make a snapshot of the original to replace the production one, if/when it hoses. Should reduce the resources used than the Windows 7 .iso I have. Right, or will it not really matter much, as long as I have the horse power, which I do? I guess I could follow a guide to strip down Windows 7 too?01:04
nickgermainei don't.  i didn't really do anything, it was fine, then it started crashing ever since 13.0401:04
nickgermaineeverything was fine in 12.1001:04
nickgermaineanyway thanks i got it fixed, didn't know that was a "group" lol01:04
Dr_willisnickgermaine,  reset their settings in theor home back to defaults via renameing the .config and other setting files (or move them to some backup dir)01:05
nickgermaineyah i cleared the ./cache and ./config directories and it fixed it for a day01:05
nickgermainethanks you guys01:05
nickgermainecherio01:05
xluckyhello01:08
Dr_willismello01:08
greenanyone figured out how to fix screen rolling on 1920x1080 yet?01:11
xluckydr_willis what's mello means01:11
BlackDalekdoes qjoypad work in ubuntu 13.10? If so, where is the setup option gone?01:11
greenanyone figured out how to fix screen rolling on 1920x1080 yet?01:13
Dr_willisrolling meaning what exactly?01:14
Dr_willis1920x1080 works fine here01:14
greenfrom bottom to top the screen rolls01:14
BlackDalekAccording to documentation on sourceforge http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/doc/c113.html I should be able to click the tray icon and get a setup menu... this option however is not present at all in the menu. What went wrong?01:15
Dr_willisBlackDalek,  on Kde or unity?01:17
Dr_willisthe system tray icon has been  undergoing changes int he last few releases. its possible the app is using the old 'system tray' and not the indicator-applet method that it should be using these days01:17
overdubgreen, that would make an awesome screen saver, old school analogue cathode ray tube out of adjustment effect01:17
greenoverdub makes it almost impossible to read though01:18
BlackDalekDr_willis, unity... the icon is present in the indicator-applet "tray"... I searched and can't find evidence that anyone else has had a problem with qjoypad in 13.10... maybe it is just me?01:20
BlackDalekDr_willis, the icon is there, just right clicking it or left clicking it gives me exactly the same menu (not the setup menu).01:21
wadMy church has a bunch of ancient PCs in a computer lab, running Windows 2000, but they can't get decent browsers anymore for that OS. I would like to recommend they convert them all to Ubuntu. Problem: The ISO I downloaded doesn't fit on a CD-ROM, it's too big. Is there a smaller version somewhere?01:24
Dr_willis12.10+ comes on dvd. and requires a PAE kernel.  You can install from USB, or 12.04 still fits on a cd.01:25
Dr_willisoops a PAE enabled CPU i mean. ;)01:25
wadThese computers won't be able to boot to anything but a CD.01:26
xanguawad: you think ubuntu can run on one of that ancients pc that came with windows 2000/millenium/whatever installed¿ there are Xubuntu and Lubuntu01:26
wadI'll download a 12.04, stick it on a CD, and try that. :)01:27
Dr_willisfor an OLD pc.. you may want to use Lubuntu01:27
Jeatonive upgraded to 13.04 and now im having issues with gnome classic not killing the processes when I close them out01:28
mikodowilee-nilee, Sorry for earlier, willammanda got my "Thank you sir" when I thought I had tabbed to you. Just noticed now. Thank you, sir!01:32
wilee-nileehehe, ;)01:32
mikodowilee-nilee, I read the guide. It will be very helpful. :)01:34
Jeatonsorry, by processes I mean firefox01:35
wilee-nileemikodo, Seems thorough, I looked through others and have some others saved.01:35
erpoWhen I examine /etc/resolv.conf, it tells me not to edit the file by hand because it will be overwritten. What should I edit to change my DNS servers, then?01:39
erpoNevermind. Answered my own question.01:39
Dr_willisi just use the network manager gui to change them01:40
Dr_willisor set my router to hand out the ones i want to use. :)01:40
erpoDr_willis: This is on a headless home server with a static IP, not using DHCP in any fashion.01:40
Dr_willisnetwork manager has settings for that also i recall and a cli interface.01:41
Dr_willisbut my router can assign a static ip based on MAC :) so i dont need to do it tht way either.01:41
erpoDr_willis: The correct answer in my situation, in case the NSA is listening and needs to reconfigure something, is to edit the appropriate dns server line in /etc/network/interfaces.01:42
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NSA_ListeningYou're correct!01:43
erpoNSA_Listening: Glad to help.01:44
Dr_willisNewt Salvation Alliance?01:44
Dr_willis;P01:44
erpoThe Newt Salvation Alliance is always listening.01:45
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Corey[1]KissMyAss: If you could stop /nicking to offensive things in here, it would be appreciated. :-)01:51
[1]KissMyAssim testing my new nick01:51
[1]KissMyAssthanks01:51
Corey[1]KissMyAss: Unfortunately, your current nick falls afoul of channel guidelines here.01:51
Corey!guidelines | [1]KissMyAss01:52
ubottu[1]KissMyAss: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines01:52
[1]KissMyAssoh let me change it01:52
[1]KissMyAssthanks01:52
Corey[1]KissMyAss: Much appreciated, thanks.01:52
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AutoMatrixHi folks, good day, wherever you are ;)01:53
NSA_ListeningKeep changing it, I am documenting. :>01:53
wilee-nileelol01:53
[1]howabouthislol, i love it!01:53
[1]howabouthisu sound like a tea party guy01:53
AutoMatrixquestion : Is it possible to use an USB-ram-stick to 'enlarge' the working memory in ubuntu ? - I'mworking on an Aspire One and that thing is that slow ...01:54
[1]howabouthisu should be happy the gov has everything they need to protect u01:54
Corey!ot01:54
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:54
[1]howabouthisAutoMatrix you should read all the manuals01:55
Dr_willisYou could put a swap partition on the ram.. or a swap file.. but that may be a bit extreme01:55
Dr_willisswap on the usb - :)01:56
bindiisnt that what windows lets you do?01:56
AutoMatrixThanks Dr_willis01:56
Dr_willisuse of a swap partition/file is commonplace01:56
CoreyAutoMatrix: Not explicitly. Swap or ramdisk really. :-)01:56
CoreyEr, sorry, ramdisk doesn't apply to your question.01:56
Dr_williswindows has that weird faster-boot-thing for usb/sd/ but  it seems tobeen a lot of marketing hype tht no one every users01:57
AutoMatrixbindy that's possible but I ain't no Windoze on my engines01:57
AutoMatrixI'll try to document myself about that01:58
AutoMatrixthat's allready a direction which is more precise than "read all the manuals" ;)01:58
CoreyAutoMatrix: I'm unconvinced that there's a lot of value in "here, have more fakeRAM on a USB 2 bus"01:59
siddhartWill there be any problem if I have single letter custom commands01:59
CoreyAutoMatrix: A swap file on disk is going to be better than that.01:59
AutoMatrixCorey, what do you mean ? won't work ?01:59
CoreyAutoMatrix: It'd *work*, it'd just be dog slow.01:59
CoreyAutoMatrix: Accessing your actual drive is going to be a lot faster than using a USB stick.02:00
AutoMatrixOK got it, Corey , that's a bit what I feared02:00
CoreyAutoMatrix: If you're that constrained, I'd upgrade the RAM if you're able.02:00
erpoAutoMatrix: Consider replacing your 2.5" HDD with a solid state drive and using it for swap.02:00
AutoMatrixdon't think so, besides it's a ver badly damaged thing ...02:00
AutoMatrixdoes not even got a monitor anymore ;)02:01
AutoMatrixerpo, that could be a way out ... but would you do that, personally ? UI heard those things were damn costly :(02:02
CoreyAutoMatrix: Let's back up a bit. :-)  What's the actual problem you're rying to solve?02:02
AutoMatrixCorey, speed ! and I'd like to see if this thing is still worth to function as a kismet-server02:03
AutoMatrixCorey, I'm planning a trip of a couple of thousand miles and would like to be traced by people who careµ02:03
CoreyAutoMatrix: Yeah, throw more RAM into it, it's dirt cheap these days.02:04
AutoMatrixth0r, hello dear, is it possible we met on the #gpsd or #kismet channels a long time ago ,02:05
AutoMatrixcorey, will do02:05
th0rAutoMatrix: I doubt it02:05
AutoMatrixno problem, thor, I wanted just to be sure ;)02:05
erpoAutoMatrix: Yes, I have an SSD in my laptop. The only reason is that I won it in a raffle.02:08
delacis compiling from sources only way to fix the imagemagicks "no decode delegate" problem, or is there a easier way?02:09
NSA_ListeningThat's how we roll :)02:09
AutoMatrixerpo>> I'mnot a native english speaker, so I guess you will haave to explain the raffle thing in your  last answer :)02:09
erpoAutoMatrix: I won it. I played a game of chance and received the SSD as a prize.02:10
erpoAutoMatrix: I paid no money for it.02:11
AutoMatrixnice prize, erpo !02:11
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apertureI installed my ati driver incorrectly and now after decrypting the drive on bootup the system hangs. Any ideas on a fix?02:24
apertureI can't even go into alt+f2 the system crashes too fast02:25
Jordan_UDi: Do you have a support question?02:25
wilee-nileeaperture, You get a grub prompt right?02:25
aperturewilee-nilee: no, I get the ubuntu startup and the prompt to decrypt. That's about it02:26
apertureOnce the system crashes I'm presented a scren with a blinking underscore02:26
aperture*screen02:26
wilee-nileeaperture, and ctrl-alt-f1 does not get you a tty?02:27
wilee-nileeat the cursor02:27
Jordan_Uaperture: Hold shift during boot (or if this is a UEFI system then press escape about once per second during boot) to get to the grub menu then try the recovery mode entry.02:27
AutoMatrixjordan >> thanks for that tip, I can use that too02:28
aperturewilee-nilee: nope, nothing happens at the cursor until I hit the power button and it starts the shutdown sequence02:28
AutoMatrixjordan >> so glad to see that nothing has changed in so many years I did'nt use XChat ;)02:28
apertureJordan_U: when I started up the computer I held down shift the whole time, but that didn't work02:28
apertureeven after decrypting the drive holding shift had no effect02:29
apertureUEFI is disabled from bios also02:29
Jordan_Uaperture: Does your keyboard work in the boot firmware screens?02:30
apertureJordan_U: my keyboard works then, yes02:30
apertureKeyboard works in bios, ubuntu startup (tested by hitting delete to see the status screen), decryption phase, and after decryption (by doing ctrl+alt+f2 to see a terminal for about 3 seconds before crash occurrs)02:31
aperturenote I'm in a live disc right now, so I do have access to the partition where the os is02:32
Jordan_Uaperture: It's very odd then that holding shift doesn't bring up the grub menu then.02:32
Jordan_U!bootinfo | aperture02:32
ubottuaperture: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).02:32
apertureI know. Should the grub menu show before the decryption prompt?02:32
Jordan_Uaperture: Yes.02:32
Jordan_Uaperture: You can force the grub menu to show at boot by creating a file /boot/grub/custom.cfg containing just "timeout=-1" (without the quotes).02:33
apertureahh02:33
apertureI'll do that then, just in case02:33
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apertureJordan_U: you said in /boot/ right? I have nothing there...02:35
Jordan_Uaperture: Since you have a separate /boot/ partition you need to mount that and the path will be "/mountpoint/grub/custom.cfg".02:36
delacis compiling from sources only way to fix the imagemagicks "no decode delegate" problem, or is there a easier way?02:37
jribdelac: what is "imagemagicks no decode delegate"?02:38
jrib(problem)02:38
apertureJordan_U: I see grub.cfg, but not custom.cfg...02:39
Jordan_Uaperture: You need to create the file.02:39
kubotsuupdate-grub02:40
apertureJordan_U: okay, done02:40
aperturenow I just reboot? and the grub prompt should load?02:40
delacjrib: imagemagick is a image editing program and the "decode delagates" are something that enable imagemagick to modify different types of images like jpg, png etc..02:40
Jordan_Uaperture: The grub menu, yes.02:41
jribdelac: yes, but what is the problem you are having?02:41
citricman this grub issue i had was weird... UEFI w/ windows 8.... odd, but fixed at least02:41
apertureJordan_U: Thanks for the help. I'll reboot now and try it out. From there I'll fix the graphics card driver to something more stable02:41
delacjrib: the imagemagick does have the delegates, but still gives "no delegates" error when editing02:41
Jordan_Uaperture: You're welcome.02:41
jribdelac: what is your full input and output (use a pastebin)?02:42
synthetixfuck ubuntu02:43
synthetixjust switched to debian02:43
kubotsuyay02:43
FoShizzhi guise02:43
Jordan_Usynthetix: Please watch your language and stay on topic. Good luck with Debian.02:43
kubotsuthere is #debian now for you02:43
synthetixJordan_U, thx02:44
FoShizzhow do you, say, autorun a command in terminal on boot up?02:44
synthetixi feel like i'm back in 200602:44
synthetixeverything is so perfect :)02:44
jribFoShizz: what command?02:44
skuftfml02:45
FoShizzx11vnc -safety -pswd02:45
kubotsusynthetix: you still in #ubuntu02:45
kubotsujust saying02:45
FoShizzanyone?02:46
delacjrib:  http://pastebin.com/iXsuUV1p02:46
FoShizzCan someone tell me how to autorun a command in terminal upon booting?02:48
CoreyFoShizz: STuff it into /etc/rc.local02:49
FoShizzin a .txt?02:49
CoreyFoShizz: What? No.02:50
jribdelac: you're sure your syntax is correct?02:50
FoShizzIn what? This is my 2nd day on ubuntu. I don't know :(02:50
delacjrib: pretty sure. and it happends on much simpler commands too02:50
madpropsI'm putting this with visudo at the end of the file http://scrot.it/424  yet I get a syntax error02:50
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thoonaiheyho02:51
thoonaihow do I get easily a list  of all registered users from my ejabberd?02:52
jribdelac: what ubuntu version?02:52
FoShizzcorey?02:52
delacjrib: 12.0402:52
jribdelac: apt-cache policy imagemagick   output?02:52
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Open /etc/rc.local (file) and write your command (line) and save it.02:53
FoShizzoh ok02:53
FoShizzhow do i do that from terminal?02:53
delacjrib: http://pastebin.com/QPmAACXY02:54
FoShizzwould i gksudo it since it needs a gui?02:54
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: You could use one of the terminal based text editors if you want, like: vi, vim, pico, nano, etc...02:54
FoShizzwould i have to apt-get those?02:55
jribFoShizz: you likely don't want to start x11vnc before X comes up so /etc/rc.local will not do you much good iirc02:55
FoShizzwhere do i put it then jrib?02:56
jribFoShizz: actually, rc.local should be executed last so it might work.  Ideally, you would setup a proper upstart job02:56
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FoShizzplease explain? im new.02:57
jribdelac: is there anything "special" about the input?  I just created a png using scrot and tried your command without any issues.  Albeit I'm on 12.1002:57
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jrib!upstart | FoShizz02:58
ubottuFoShizz: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/02:58
jribFoShizz: it's probably hard if you are new.  So use rc.local and come back to it when you are able to02:58
FoShizzcool ill read on it02:58
CoreyFoShizz: What command are you trying to put into rc.local?02:59
delacjrib: no, I have tried it whit several images of different types. Nothing works.02:59
FoShizzx11vnc -safer -usepw02:59
CoreyFoShizz: "echo x11vnc -safer -usepw | sudo tee -a /etc/rc.local"02:59
jribdelac: actually, if out.png does not exist, it does give me issues02:59
FoShizzwould i apt-get install upstart?02:59
CoreyBut there's probably an init script for an x11 VNC server. Just sayin'...02:59
delacjrib: oh?02:59
jribdelac: use "convert" instead of "mogrify".  WHat happens?03:00
delacjrib: same03:00
jribdelac: can you pastebin?03:00
FoShizzok i did it corey. im rebooting now03:00
aladdinheyyyo very nice people! Why virtual terminal is used? By typing ctrl + alt + F1?03:01
jribaladdin: you don't have to use it if you don't want to03:01
sebsebsebhi03:01
tharkunWhen is the next LTS scheduled for release?03:01
jribtharkun: 14.04 = 2014 april03:01
sebsebsebtharkun: April 201403:01
tharkunjrib, sebsebseb: Thanks :)03:02
aladdinjrib: what is it used for anyway? Just curious03:02
sebsebsebtharkun: you're welcome03:02
jribaladdin: it's used mostly when your X is broken ;)03:02
delacjrib:  http://pastebin.com/yDaUdpJz03:03
FoShizzit didn't work corey. i had to manually start x11vnc03:03
aladdinjrib: aha. good to know. thanks mate ;)03:03
K350Is it possible to select several files/directories at the same time in Midnight Commander?03:03
jribdelac: let me try on a 12.04 machine03:03
RarrikinsWhere is memtest and the DVD check on the latest Ubuntu installer DVD?03:04
CoreyFoShizz: What version of Ubuntu?03:04
FoShizzxubuntu actually03:05
FoShizz12.0403:05
CoreyFoShizz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622843 ggoes into some detail.03:05
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jribdelac: interestingly enough my DELEGATES on 12.10 includes png03:05
jribdelac: output of « readlink -f $(which convert) »?03:05
jribdelac: oh yours does too03:06
delacjrib: as I said03:06
NSA_ListeningCorey: /etc/rc.local has "exit 0" line by default. So if you append to it.. then..?03:07
CoreyNSA_Listening: Ah, that's right, Ubuntu has that set, doesn't it...03:07
jribdelac: works fine here on 12.0403:08
delacjrib: what exactly does that readlink do?03:08
jribdelac: it just follows symlinks03:09
jribdelac: 8:6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3.2 is my imagemagick package version on 12.0403:09
FoShizzim not sure if what that thread was doing is what im trying to do. that seemed way more complicated than what i need.03:09
delacjrib: same as mine03:09
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Try this command: "sudo sed -i 's/exit 0//g' /etc/rc.local; sudo reboot"03:10
jribdelac: i'm on i386 though (on 12.04 anyway)03:10
FoShizzupstart looks like a bundle of fun to learn as well03:10
delacjrib: what symlinks did you want me to follow?03:10
jribFoShizz: or you know, just place it before the exit 0 line03:10
FoShizzk03:10
jribdelac: it was just in case /usr/bin/convert was a symlink03:10
jribdelac: or whatever your shell runs when you call convert03:10
delacjrib: well, its not symlink03:12
FoShizzdidn't work again :(03:13
yashwantmy network manager indecator is not available in panel, how to add in panel.Previously it was working but now its stoped workin.03:13
sebsebseb103:14
sebsebseb 03:14
jribdelac: what's « file Bootanimation0001.png » look like?03:14
deezedyashwant: which desktop are you using?03:14
yashwantubuntu 10.0403:15
delacjrib: just a little throbber on black background03:15
sebsebseb!10.04 | yashwant03:15
ubottuyashwant: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.03:15
yashwant<deezed>ubuntu 10.0403:15
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jribdelac: haha, sorry: what is the output of the command « file Bootanimation0001.png »?03:15
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Open the /etc/rc.local and make sure "x11vnc ..." line is there03:15
delacjrib: lol03:15
sebsebsebyashwant: 10.04 desktop version no longer supported03:15
delacjrib: do remember that this happend on all files no matter what03:15
FoShizzhow do i open it?03:15
ericluwolfyashwat: 10.04 was the greatest wasn't it?03:15
FoShizzvia terminal, that it03:16
FoShizzis*03:16
FoShizzjust cd /etc/rc.local?03:16
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: "cat /etc/rc.local"03:16
FoShizzwhats cat?03:16
RarrikinsFoShizz: It shows what's in the file.03:16
NSA_Listening!cat | FoShizz03:17
ubottuFoShizz: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:17
delacjrib: but anyway: Bootanimation0001.png: PNG image data, 480 x 800, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced03:17
FoShizzoh ok thanks03:17
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output03:17
FoShizzthanks nsa. also, x11vnc is in the file03:18
delacjrib:  I'm going to sleep on this and try again tomorrow. Thanks for your help.03:18
yashwantsebsebseb:ok, but every thing is working fine, I want only network indicator which displays the wifi connection.03:18
jribdelac: fwiw, the png I tried with was rgba instead of rgb03:18
sebsebsebyashwant: sure, but no longer supported with any updates, so meant to use something else really, when using it online :d  something that's supported03:19
* sebsebseb goes afk03:20
yashwantsebsebseb: can u tell me how to use 12.04 version as like 10.04 environment,display and menu as like 10.04.03:21
fabriciooi03:22
muktiI have a server running ubuntu 11.04, and it doesn't show japanese characters in the terminal. Is there a specific package I need to install in order to see them properly? Currently, they show up as question marks03:22
fabricioquale o canal do brasil03:22
fabricioqual o canal do brasil03:23
tharkun!br03:23
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.03:23
FoShizznsa?03:23
sebsebsebmukti: oh 11.04 another not supported anymore release as well03:23
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Make sure the x11vnc line is correct03:23
sebsebseb!11.04 | mukti03:23
ubottumukti: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on October 28, 2012. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.03:23
FoShizzits correct. checked.03:24
jribdelac: make sure you don't have an "out.png" too03:25
jribi.e. the file does not exist03:25
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Then try to reboot, does it work?03:26
trismmukti: you might need to build the local, ie: echo "ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8" | sudo tee -a /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales;03:26
trismmukti: or you might just need some fonts on your local system03:28
FoShizzno im still having to go to terminal and enter it.03:28
muktitrism: that would allow me to continue using en_US.UTF-8 (or whatever I'm currently using), right? It would just add it as another supported locale?03:29
trismmukti: yep, you'd still have the en locale, though it depends on what you're looking at, swiching to ja_JP.utf-8 will work fine for most command output03:30
trismmukti: but if you are looking at files, they may be in shift_jis, so may still look garbled with some work03:31
PuFFsIs there an RPD for ubuntu to get to a Window Server machine remotly?03:31
FoShizznsa?03:35
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: I am checking it on my machine right now, just for the sake03:36
FoShizzthanks you03:37
w30PuFFs, Ubuntu comes with a RDP application in a standard install.03:45
PuFFsw30: Alright Thanks03:46
w30PuFFs you can RDF, ssh, cifs, ftp all you want03:47
xxsashixxrawr03:53
sporkslubuntu  intial boot login and password?03:54
sporkstried lots of combinations03:55
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: It didn't work as expected. I found a better approach here: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-display-manager03:55
FoShizzarn't you supposed to set those up during the initial install?03:55
sporksusb live cd03:56
FoShizzok thanks nsa. will read.03:56
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: It looks promising03:57
FoShizzok ill try it out.03:58
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FoShizzim unable to find xsetup anywhere04:07
FoShizzhttp://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#infaq_display-manager-continuously04:07
FoShizzI have no xdm folder.04:07
FoShizzAny luck with you nsa?04:09
wilee-nileesporks, You should not need to login, check the sum on the ISO and try another usb loader if it's good.04:10
jak_hi all04:10
jak_hi all04:10
sporkswilee-nilee, it's a unetbootin direct iso download04:11
jak_"ARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: " link to fix? I think this is a common issue but I cannot find an answer04:11
sporksthumb drive is good04:11
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wilee-nileesporks, I would download again from lubuntu and load the ISO. Unetbootin should work, a login is not part of the release for a live setting.04:12
wilee-nileesporks, YOu could just download the mini and do a netload as well.04:13
wilee-nilee! mini04:13
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:13
jak_?04:13
jak_how to tor router irc?04:15
FoShizzNSA_Listening: I found both xsession and xinitrc, but i think I'll go with xinitrc. Do i just slap x11vnc -safety -usepw in? The directions are a bit vague for my untrained eye.04:15
sam113101are 64 bits operating systems supposed to work on virtualbox?04:16
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: You could go with .xinitrc04:16
wilee-nileesam113101, You might try #vbox as well.04:17
FoShizzok. do i simply add the commands i want>04:19
FoShizz?04:19
FoShizzOn the website you linked to there seemed to be some extra information. "x11vnc -logfile $HOME/.x11vnc.log -rfbauth $HOME/.vnc/passwd -forever -bg"04:22
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Just put your line there and try it out, these additional parameters are for x11vnc script.04:23
FoShizzok thanks. i looked up the additional parameters and i think i will add them in too.04:24
FoShizzupon trying to save i get "cannot open file to write"04:27
FoShizzshould i try in a terminal?04:27
FoShizzok i did it. time to reboot!04:31
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FoShizzno dice :(04:34
NSA_ListeningFoShizz: Look at this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick#X11VNC_Server04:37
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usuariohola04:41
FoShizzhola04:43
JewInSheepsClothany way to use wireshark to view all network traffic on the same router as my computer? i know how to "live capture" all the traffic from my computer, but not the whole network, i am trying to see what other traffic may be on my router other than my iphone and my comp.?04:45
FoShizzNSA it just won't work :(04:45
FoShizzjewinsheepscloth i believe live capture gets everything on your netork.04:46
JewInSheepsClothFoShizz: nah because i was doing a live capture of all available and it didnt see my iphone hooking up on you tube04:47
FoShizzwas berkley backet filter on? BPF?04:48
FoShizzwas your phone on 3G/LTE?04:48
JewInSheepsClothnah the same raouter man04:48
JewInSheepsCloth*router04:48
JewInSheepsClothFoShizz: its cool because i need to learn everything about tcp ip protocol anyway , i am a dummy on this computer thing , its amazing that i evn running ubuntu .04:49
JewInSheepsClothFoShizz: actually i never would be able this ubuntu thing without this irc channel04:49
FoShizzSo you are sure you have zero filters on?04:50
JewInSheepsClothnah i am running the gufw .. i will figure it out , its like a 1st grader asking einstein to explain quantum theory to them04:50
FoShizzyea lol. im still having problems of my own as well. still new to xubuntu.04:51
JewInSheepsClothFoShizz: same boat we all learn 4 life . lke Einstein said , when the universe ceases to be interesting its time for you to die04:52
FoShizzyep. best of luck you you.04:53
JewInSheepsClothFoShizz: be around later bll cheers04:53
FoShizzfoshizz !upstart04:53
jmurrib21what ubuntu version would be better to install in an Everex laptop with via processor?04:54
FoShizzhow old is your laptop?04:54
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jmurrib21like 200604:55
FoShizzrun xubuntu or lubuntu.04:55
FoShizzlubuntu is the fastest, but has the least eye candy04:56
jmurrib21ok04:56
madpropsI would install Ubuntu minimal and install a desktop environment manually04:57
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savioHello All05:07
javier_hola alguien me puede ayudar con emacs?05:07
javier_me baje https://github.com/kaustavdm/emacs-dev-kit05:07
javier_pero no se como instalarlo y hacerlo funcionar05:08
Traxie21Hello, I would like some clarafication on something that seems kind of strange.05:08
cobalt237Is there any reason why a computer won't boot off a usb-created created USB if i select USB from the boot menu?05:09
aloominum/part/05:09
Traxie21allominum: if the computer does not support USB-2.0 booting, if the kernal  is not on the right partition,05:10
Traxie21I'm running off a Live USB right now, and installing a Static USB05:10
Traxie21What happens when you try to boot the USB-created drive?05:10
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Traxie21ah, aloominum, see above05:11
lasers!spanish | javier_05:12
ubottujavier_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:12
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Traxie21Help please, Administrator question: I am trying to install to a USB drive on a laptop.  Everything is fine, but the live environment I am on does not detect my brightness or battery, so my screen is on full brightness and I do not know how much battery is left05:15
Traxie21I know it will not last more than 3- 3 1/2 hours05:15
pawsin ubuntu, can i just add LoadModule h264_streaming_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_h264_streaming.so to my apache2.conf ?05:16
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pawsbecause i dont see any other loadmodule lines in my conf..05:16
lasersTraxie21: Not an admin here, but try "acpi -V" to see your battery status.05:16
Traxie21lasers: Thanks, trying05:17
Traxie21lasers: acpi is not installed, and I'm getting an unusual error when I try to install it.  I guess this is what I get for trying to work at 12:15 AM :I05:18
lasersTraxie21: Ha. Okay. :o05:19
Traxie216 bash processes in monitor, I only opened one terminal :O05:20
lasersTraxie21: "aptitude search laptop" -- You might be interested in having laptop-detect laptop-mode-tools05:21
lasers(For your USB)05:21
Traxie21lasers: WTH? My installation details are picking up data on the flash and acpi installs.... erm05:21
Traxie21does the details submenu just echo everything from bash?05:21
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Traxie21How do I force aptitude to reset? Its throwing an error because of a failed flashplayer installation and its keeping me from doing anything else with it.05:23
lasersTraxie21: What error?05:25
Traxie21http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750628/    Looks familiar, but I cant place it :I05:26
lasersTraxie21: Yikes. Do you have Software Manager/Update Manager/etc open right now?05:27
lasersIf not... Try this (and cross fingers).05:27
lasers!aptfix05:27
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:27
Traxie21nope.  This is all I have open. Firefox, Installer, Terminal05:27
lasersTraxie21: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136881/unable-to-install-due-to-debconf-problem05:29
Traxie21lasers: unknown event05:29
Traxie21Ah, tyvm!05:29
lasersTraxie21: Fixed?05:30
Traxie21lasers: Idk, I just like to thank people :305:31
lasers:305:31
Traxie21lasers: Alright, it appears fixed, althought I didnt do all the steps XD05:32
lasersTraxie21: Great! Could be from !aptfix. ;)05:32
Traxie21lasers: !aptfix returned error: bash: unknown event :P05:32
lasersTraxie21: (No, from the command in !aptfix).05:32
Traxie21oh05:33
Traxie211:31 of battery left05:33
dayawhat is the name of Text based insaller of ubuntu , is it debian installer, or ubiquity or something else05:34
lasersTraxie21: Yikes. That's like 10 minutes in linux world. Better get on it with your installation.05:34
dayaI am trying to integrate ubuntu installer in base system, composed by debootstrap command05:34
Traxie21Carp: My leg is asleep and the charger is across the house...05:34
Traxie21brb05:35
shadeji have installed postfix on ubuntu 13.04  but the command mail is not working?05:37
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Traxie21Have you configured it? </never used postfix before>05:39
shadejTraxie21:  I just followed the configration on the official website05:40
Traxie21shadej: What does the mail command output?05:41
shadejTraxie21: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix05:41
shadejit asks me to install :sudo apt-get install mailutils05:41
Traxie21shadej: Afaik, you need both postfix and mailutils installed05:42
shadejTraxie21: ok thanks05:43
Guest92705anyone have a preference between oracle and openjdk05:45
shadejTraxie21:  what softwares are in the mailutilities?05:45
Traxie21No idea :305:45
shadejok05:45
Traxie21I wouldnt be afraid of it being malicious though05:46
Guest92705or does anyone have an opinion on the which java to go with05:46
ikoniaGuest92705: it depends on the application and what it supports best, do a little research05:47
Guest92705ikonia: I have, but I haven't seen anything that anyone seems to lean towards.  It is for android development and currently it seems as if it goes both ways05:48
Guest92705not asking here because I didn't look05:48
shadejafter installing mail server on my ubuntu, how can i test it from remote computer?05:48
pawsshadej: send an email to it :)05:50
pawsor telnet to mail server05:50
lasersGuest92705: You might have better in android(and/or android-dev) channels -- /msg alis list *android*05:51
laserss/better/better luck05:51
Guest92705lasers: thanks, they are part of my research.  I just wanted to see if others in a different group actually leaned anywhere.  I was ready to get oracle, but figured I would ask one last time before finishing05:52
lasersGuest92705: Understood. :)05:52
shadejpaws:  am testing it from my computer now05:53
shadejbut the command mail is not working05:53
shadejit says u dont have permission05:53
param___hello channel, i am not able to sudo apt-egt update my ubuntu os due to proxy settings05:53
ikoniaGuest92705: then pick one and dive in05:53
pawsshadej: you gotta give us more info than that..05:53
shadejpaws: i have installed both postfix and mailutils05:54
shadejnow i want to send mail from root to guest05:54
shadejbut it is not working05:54
param___paws can you solve my issue05:54
pawsshadej: you mentioned you got an error.. can you paste it somewhere..05:55
param___use pastebin for copy paste :)05:56
param___paste.ubuntu.com05:56
shadejpaws:  the eror is when i issue the command being logged in as guest i am gettting the error message:05:56
shadejCannot open mailbox /var/mail/guest: Permission denied05:56
pawsparam___: you edited /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy ?05:57
Traxie21bye guys, thanks for the help!05:57
pawsshadej: and you created that mailbox ?05:58
param___o paws i didnt05:58
pawsparam___: where did you tell apt to look for proxy?05:58
shadejpaws: i can not remember that05:58
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shadejmay be the mailutils must have done that05:58
param___i did on etc/profile05:59
param___i did on etc/bas.bashrc05:59
pawsshadej: i dont think mailutils have done it.. just check it and make sure permissions are set properly05:59
param___and ran export proxy command on terminal05:59
pawsparam___: i think you have to add a Acquire::http::Proxy line06:00
shadejpaws:  am i going to check permission for /var/mail folder?06:00
param___in 01proxy file ?06:00
pawsi think so, param___06:01
pawsAcquire::http::proxy "http://User:Password@host:port/";06:01
pawsshould look like something that06:01
param___let me give a try06:01
param___i am not even to ping even06:01
pawsi think u might get away even if u add that line in /etc/apt/apt.conf06:02
pawsparam___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23666/apt-get-does-not-work-with-proxy06:02
shadejpaws:  i hv changed the permission for /var/mail now  the permission denied error is gone06:03
shadejbut the mail command is not doing its task06:03
shadeji can not see the message i sent06:04
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shadejmail command not working help?06:08
h22guys, My dad's old server has neither a display nor LAN access.. I wish to install ubuntu on it...  Should I be using something like __Fully automated install__ ?06:09
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ikoniah22: no06:10
ikoniah22: you will need either a display or lan access to do this realistically06:11
h22What should I be doing?06:11
ikoniayou'd need to do pressed installs without either, but for one machine that would require significant effort06:11
h22I thought FAI === Pressed install?06:12
ikoniaFAI ?06:12
ikonials -la06:12
ikoniaoops06:12
h22fai-project.org06:12
ikoniaI have no idea what that is,06:12
ikoniait's not an ubuntu project so it's up to you if you want to try that or not06:13
shadeji have installed postfix and mailutils on ubuntu 13.04 but mail command is not working06:14
shadej?06:14
ikoniaplease define "not working"06:14
shadejikonia:  i can send message with no error06:14
shadejbut when i issue the command mail06:15
shadejit says no mail for root06:15
ikoniashadej: what is the exact command you are issuing06:15
shadejikonia:  in order to see my inbox just "mail"06:15
ikoniaok - so do you have mail waiting for you ?06:16
ikoniaand why are you the "root" user ?06:16
ikoniathe root user should be locked on ubuntu06:16
shadejikonia:  i did logged in to root intentionaly06:16
shadejso that i can send mail from guest to root06:16
shadejand see the message from root06:16
ikoniashadej: sorry, I'm still not seeing a problem06:17
ikoniashadej: you have no mail waiting for you....that is not a problem06:17
shadejikonia: but i must havfe06:17
ikoniawhy must you have ?06:17
shadejbecause i sent a mail from guest to root06:18
shadejikonia: because i sent a mail from guest to root06:18
ikoniashadej: do you know it got there ?06:19
ikoniashadej: do you know it was processed ?06:19
vantageHi, I just did a fresh install of 12.04, then upgraded to 12.10, then to 13.04. I can't seem to get sound working at all. When I open sound preferences it just closes.06:19
shadejikonia: no06:19
shadejikonia: i just checked postfix06:19
ikoniashadej: then I say again "there is no error"06:19
shadejand it is working06:19
ikoniashadej: please define "working"06:19
shadejikonia:  i telnet to it06:20
ikoniashadej: and ?06:20
shadejand i got the responses06:20
ikoniashadej: that does not mean it's working06:20
shadejikonia: OMG how should i check it then06:21
ikoniashadej: with a valid mail test06:21
shadejikonia:  tell me if you know it please06:22
shadeji have been searching the web for 2 days06:22
ikoniathere are various tests, you can try to send mail with a telnet test, you can send mail and verify it with the logs,06:22
shadejikonia:  just tell me the commands06:23
ikoniano06:23
shadejam new to ubuntu06:23
ikoniashadej: there are many documented tests on the web06:23
ikoniaI'm not googling them for you06:23
goddardwhats the best way to install xmonad06:30
sobczykhi, is it safe to stop online resize of ext4 parttion?06:31
diverdudeHow are commands actually saved in terminal command history? Quite often i find that commands I know i have written cannot be found using CTRL+R. Why?06:32
ikoniathey are read from the bash_history file06:33
ikonia(assuming your using bash)06:33
sereikonia: if your not willing to help then why say anything at all? and if you wanna be respected i would try treating people with respect first06:33
matanyasobczyk: not really06:36
Jordan_Udiverdude: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/08806:36
sereshadej: hand tight and im sure someone will help you... dont let one ignorant person push you away.. this is a great place to get help and help others06:39
shadejsere: hah.. ok06:40
Ben64it's really not that hard, google for telnet mail test and there are millions of results06:40
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sereBen64: i agree.. google is my best friend but when he could have just pulled a link or told him how to fix it .. instead a saying google it or getting into a jerry springer debate is just wasting peoples  time06:43
ikoniasere: sorry, if I'm not willing to help with what ?06:43
Ben64ikonia: you don't want to walk someone through testing a mail server with telnet06:43
serenot everyone knows how to use google too06:43
Ben64probably shouldn't be running a mail server if you can't google06:44
ikoniasere: they have setup a mail server, I'm sure they are capable of googling "mail server telnet test"06:44
ikoniaor words to that effect06:44
Ben64there are already enough open relays around06:44
ikoniasere: I've explained that his tests are not valid, given him two test senarios and asked him to google the exact commands for one as I'm not going to do it for you....that is helped him, if he can't google with that level of info, then running a mail server is not a good idea06:45
shadejBen64: i checked my mail server using telnet06:45
TareHey guys!!! could you  pls help me problem with " A plugn is needed to display this content install plugin" I cann't use youtube06:45
ikoniasere: you're welcome to give him the exact commands after you've googled for him06:45
ikoniaTare: flash plugin ?06:45
ikoniashadej: what command did you use to test your mail server06:46
Tare<ikonia> flash player is aleady installed but getting suffer06:46
shadejtelnet localhost 25 (says connected) EHLO howdy.com (returns a bunch of 250 codes) MAIL FROM: somebody@blah.com RCPT TO: (use a real email address you want to send to) DATA (type whatever you want on muliple lines) . (this on a single line tells Postfix that the DATA is complete)06:46
ikoniaTare: flash player is quite unreliable like that, I'd consider using the html5 test06:46
ikoniashadej: that is not a valid test06:46
ikoniashadej: unless I have missunderstood and you've put a valid email address in for root and setup an alias06:47
ikoniaas you're testing mail getting sent to root, correct ?06:47
Tare<ikonia> is there any additonal plugin for ubuntu 12.04 LTS?06:47
shadejikonia:  when i finish i get the message:250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 6E414C4643A06:47
ikoniaTare: not really no, that's why I'd suggest using the youtube html5 site06:47
ikoniashadej: ok - queued, not deleivered06:47
ikoniadelivered06:48
ikoniabut I'll pass you over to sere now to finish resolving this06:48
sereikonia: i never said i knew the anwser to his problem ..you did and refered him to google06:48
sereikonia: blowing smoke up peoples *** will get you no where06:50
ikoniasere: please be quiet, if you are unable to see that I've provided him the answer - you really have no clue, and please don't star out words, it's clear you know they are bad, so don't use them as we all know what you typed06:50
sereikonia: you can use you imagination then ***06:51
ikoniasere: please don't do it again.06:51
gogi112русско говорящие есть?06:51
ikonia!ru | gogi11206:52
ubottugogi112: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.06:52
gogi112Ikonia thx06:52
sereikonia: from the guidelines up top...Telling people to "RTFM" or to "just google it" is not very polite. Ideally, you should find them a link, or at least give them some directions to documentation they can use. when helping be helpful....thanks06:56
ikoniasere: I told them neither, so again, please stop06:58
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sereikonia:  we can all just scroll up and see what you said.. i am done however i said what i had to say and not going to waste any more time on you.. i suggest you read the guidelines07:01
IdleOnesere: channel ops are dealing with it. We appreciate your concern.07:02
sereIdleOne: thanks07:03
tuxtotiI'm trying to start mysql..and i keep getting "start: Job failed to start" .07:03
tuxtotidmesg shows this:07:03
tuxtoti[11397430.200890] type=1400 audit(1370846481.577:72): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/mnt/vol-database/mysql/ip-192-168-1-52.lower-test" pid=9017 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=007:03
tuxtotiwhat is requested_mask="c" ?07:04
tuxtoticreate permissions?07:04
shadejcan any one help me how to test postfix mail server?07:04
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sereshadej: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto07:05
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tuxtotioh..and if it helps.. i have a soft link "/var/lib/mysql" pointing to "/mnt/vol-database/mysql" and running out of a EBS volume in aws.07:06
shadejsere: thank you am reading it07:07
sereshadej: your welcome07:07
user9202I have nvidia geforce Go 7400 chipset on HP pavilion dv6000.  Problem:  Nvidia drivers from Additional Drivers" run horribly slow.  Only 59.5fps with glxgears.  Solution?07:07
Jordan_Utuxtoti: Are you using the mysql executable / libraries packaged with Ubuntu or something else?07:08
user9202"available drivers" gives options for nvidia drivers 173, 96 and current.  173 and current are SLOW.07:09
tuxtotiJordan_U: packaged with ubuntu. "mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.31, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.2"07:09
tuxtoti"07:09
user9202I checked nvidia download site and found driver 304.88 for Linux 64bit.  If I compile this driver, will ubuntu updates conflict?07:10
thunder1212i need help configuring  printer07:11
user9202thunder1212:  Your printer model and ubuntu version?07:12
Ben64user9202: you should not use the driver from the site07:13
user9202Ben64, I'm woried ubuntu kernel upgrade will cause a crash.  I'm going back to the neuveau driver i think.07:14
Ben64user9202: the 304 driver is in the repository, you should use that one07:15
thunder1212user9202, canon mf3010 ubuntu 13.04 64bit, i have downloaded the drivers from canon website07:15
IdleOnesere: Please join #ubuntu-ops for a minute if you have time07:15
kanupatarhi , is there any tool in ubuntu to view the subversion(svn) files like windows?07:16
Jordan_Utuxtoti: Well, I've found http://tanghus.net/2012/03/yet-another-mysql-vs-apparmor-barf/ but I don't know that their solution is a good idea, or will help in your case. I'm still looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/986892 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/810270 to see if there's helful info there.07:16
kanupatarin gui?07:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 986892 in debhelper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "mysql-server postrm breaks apparmor profile for later versions on purge" [High,In progress]07:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 810270 in openldap (Ubuntu Oneiric) "AppArmor profiles need updates for /var/run → /run and /var/lock → /run/lock and /dev/shm → /run/shm" [High,Fix released]07:16
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Jordan_Utuxtoti: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and are all your packages completely up to date?07:18
tuxtotiJordan_U : DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS"07:19
thunder1212user9202, ?07:20
tuxtotiJordan_U: not sure of all the packages but installed mysql-server through apt-get.07:20
Jordan_Utuxtoti: There is a possibility that the problem is fixed by package updates, so try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to be sure all your packages are up to date.07:21
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goddardmy laptop has "turbo mode" in windows i hit a button and it bumps on the speed of my cpu. Does ubuntu have something like that or is it just automatic?07:23
Jordan_Ugoddard: How old is this machine? I haven't seen a "Turbo mode" button in decades.07:24
Joschiihi07:24
goddardJordan_U: lots of the i7 laptops have that07:24
dimendhello everyone new ubuntu user in here07:25
dimendis there someone that could help me out?07:26
Jordan_Ugoddard: I'm curious. Would you mind posting a picture of this button?07:26
shadeji followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto#Install_Postfix07:27
shadejto install mail server on ubuntu07:27
shadejbut mail command is still not working properly07:27
shadej?07:27
dimendsomeone having familiarity with MATE that could assist me?07:28
dimendnobody?07:29
Jordan_Udimend: MATE isn't in the Ubuntu repositories and isn't supported here unfortunately.07:29
TheMis xchat-gnome a fork of xchat?..07:30
dimendwell I just need some advices... I've installed it already (I'm actually speaking  from it right now)07:30
shadeji am sending mail from root to guest and vis versa but when i issue the command it says "no mail for root"07:31
dimendwould you think that possible?07:31
Jordan_Udimend: Try #mate.07:31
dimendthanks!07:31
Jordan_Udimend: You're welcome.07:31
thunder1212there is no error anywhere in configuring the printer but the print doesnt take place07:31
dimend#mate07:31
dimendhoped would have worked...07:32
Jordan_Udimend: "/join #mate" (without the quotes)07:32
dimendbrilliant! thanks I'm a fresh user need a bit of time for acknowledge all the shortcuts07:32
goddardhow do i install nvidia drivers the new ones?07:54
goddardjockey isn't coming up in the search07:55
auronandacegoddard: the additional drivers is part of software sources now07:55
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demonoid_meWhere is the location of thunderbird log file?08:05
demonoid_meexxoooo08:09
demonoid_meWhere is the location of thunderbird log file?08:09
otakprobably in ~/.thunderbird/<something>.default/ImapMail/.  It depends on your settings08:11
urbanonymous_hey guys, howto ligin?08:12
urbanonymous_login*08:12
demonoid_meotak: 10x08:12
urbanonymous_please !register urbanonymous08:14
Leepicis there anyone with a Radeon HD4870 who has fan speed issues with 13.04?08:14
rohanhow can i stop a running command, I am trying to kill but it is not stop. what should i do?08:15
demonoid_meotak: i have some virus that sends mails08:16
demonoid_meotak:  and i dont know how to remove it this virus08:16
NSA_Listeningrohan: Send a signal to a process, ex. kill -s STOP [PID]08:16
rohanthanks NSA_Listening08:18
PlastikSporkI just did an update & upgrade on my raspberry pi running Raspian.... I use my Pi as a webserver... after doing the upgrade, MySQL failed to start, I rebooted and tried again with out any success.   Here is the terminal output from the upgrade http://pastebin.com/uBGLTyp008:25
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somsipPlastikSpork: it's not supported here. Go to the Raspi forums for advice08:25
chrisircI need to install an old computer that seems to be unable to boot the new kind of iso images that can be dd'd to USB flash drives.08:26
roadkillPlastikSpork: Raspian =/= Ubuntu08:26
chrisircIt booted grml2usb w/o problems. But grml2usb doesn't seem to be able to process ubuntu images afaict.08:26
somsiproadkill: what language is that??08:26
chrisircWhat should I do?08:26
roadkillsomsip: =/= means "is not like08:27
chrisirc(s/grml2usb/a flash drive that contained a grml image written using grml2usb/)08:27
roadkillor is not equal to08:27
somsiproadkill: I guessed that. In what language?08:27
roadkillsomsip: Internet.08:27
shadeji am using postfix as mail server08:28
shadejmessage is queued but not delivered08:28
shadejwhat si the problem08:28
roadkillsomsip: Also "real life" as crossing an = sign is fairly universal.08:28
CalimeroTeknikit's ≠08:28
somsiproadkill: never seen that before. != is much more common. 'is not' would be the most sensible way08:28
CalimeroTeknikunicode has it08:29
roadkillsomsip: "!=" is much more common only amongst programmers.08:29
CalimeroTeknikcompose, /, =08:29
Daniel0! = does not equal etc08:29
ubottuDaniel0: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:29
somsiproadkill: true - I thought that's what you were trying to show. Anyway...well OT08:29
Daniel0used it like 3 times today08:30
Daniel0:D08:30
roadkillsomsip: Do a google image search for "is not equal to symbol" and you'll find tons of examples. http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/images/inequality.gif08:30
somsiproadkill: no thanks - I have more important things to do08:30
roadkillsomsip: Like bicker about a common symbol on IRC?08:30
somsiproadkill: I asked a question and admitted I was OT. EOT for me.08:31
roadkillsomsip: Yet you're still responding. You tried to say "you've never seen that before" while following it up with an affirmative of my explanation. How would you know what I said was true if you've never seen it before? And yet, you keep responding when you have "more important things to do." Just admit it, you were trying to pretend you knew better and got caught on it.08:33
joel135Hi, I'm cross-compiling a program. I get "checking for i386-linux-gnu-gcc... no" when ./configuring. I've tried to google things like '"i386-linux-gnu-gcc" install' but to no avail. What should I do? The program is fuse.08:36
jony_easyridercan someone confirm that the CANON LBP6020 is working with Ubuntu?08:36
llutzjoel135: you are on amd64? sudo apt-get install gcc:i38608:37
roadkilljony_easyrider: should be in the gcc packages. you can get them installed by typing sudo apt-get install build-essential08:39
joel135llutz, thanks. I tried gcc:<tab><tab> before but it wouldn't give me anything08:39
llutz!multiarch | joel13508:39
jony_easyriderroadkill, I didn't bought the printer yet, so I want a confirmation, or some information about this08:40
llutzjoel135: because that :i386 isn't part of the packagename. it's just the notation to get 386-packages installed in amd64 installations. multiarch support needs to be configured08:40
joel135ok. thanks again08:40
roadkilljony_easyrider: I missent my reply to you bt accident. This is what I could find on your printer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv19008:40
roadkilljoel135: should be in the gcc packages. you can get them installed by typing sudo apt-get install build-essential08:41
roadkilljoel135: A rough outline of what's included in the build-essential package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/build-essential08:42
roadkillIt's all the essential packages needed for building in debian/ubuntu08:42
jony_easyriderroadkill, I have LBP6000 and it's working with Ubuntu, but I wonder if LBP6020 will working too08:42
roadkilljony_easyrider: If the LBP6020 mentions anywhere CAPT support, it likely will as that's Canon's proprietary driver for Linux08:43
rstefanovhello08:44
rstefanovis there a repo for php 5.5? i would like to update 5.4 to 5.5 ?08:44
poeehi, I installed the nvidia gt 620 drivers from ppa sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates, but now the resolution is limited 1024x860 something. how do i increase the resolution?08:44
jony_easyriderroadkill, yes, the LBP6020 is CAPT too like my existing LBP600008:44
zendHello! Have someone experience with setup cups on ltsp`s thin clients? :)08:44
somsip!info php5 | rstefanov08:45
ubotturstefanov: php5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.9-4ubuntu2 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB08:45
somsiprstefanov: so if you want to go to 5.5 you will probably need a PPA, but...08:45
somsip!ppa | rstefanov08:45
ubotturstefanov: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge08:45
roadkillsomsip: He's not asking for definitions, he's asking if there's a PPA for 5.508:45
rstefanovsigh, so no official repo yet for 5.5 somsip ?08:46
roadkillYou can spam all you want, you're still not really answering his question.08:46
somsiprstefanov: like the info says, no08:46
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rstefanovdamn i hate dealing with ppas08:46
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admin0hi.. i want to log all my ssh remote sessions, so that i can keep track of what my command did, what was the output etc08:49
admin0how do I do that ?08:50
rohanhow can I know current runing command? I am using "ps aux" command. when I killed a process by "kill -c stop [pid]", when i gave a command "px aux" but it is showing in the list08:50
admin0not the command history, but all output also08:50
Jordan_Uadmin0: The command "script" might be helpful.08:50
histoadmin0: I believe screen can do logging as well08:51
somsipadmin0: tee?08:51
histoadmin0: yeah I think screen would be the way to go08:51
histoadmin0: or ssh someuser@someserver | tee -a somelog       will do it if you don't want to use screen08:53
thunder1212hi08:53
admin0that would do i guess .. I don't want to use screen .. or switch from tmux .. but most of the time would be just ssh user@host08:53
ActionParsniprohan: is the process a zombie?08:53
clctoi thought tmux was generally considered better than screen08:53
llutzadmin0: start each new session with: script $(date +%y%m%d-%H%M)-session.log    to get full logs ofin-/output08:53
histoadmin0: Here is a few options http://www.jms1.net/ssh-record.shtml08:54
ActionParsnipclcto: both have advantages08:54
thunder1212ji08:55
thunder1212hi08:55
zatanhey I have got lenvoo keyboard is there anyway change FN function to normal ? that Pressing 'F8' key will behave like a F8. Pressing 'fn'+'F8' will act as special key (play/pause)08:56
clctozatan: its in bios08:56
clctousually08:57
zatanclcto, I could see anything in there08:57
admin0thanks guys .. tee -a logfile  is the best option it seems for me08:57
clctozatan: couldn't? or could08:57
histoclcto: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Screen_vs_tmux08:57
zatanclaude2_, couldnt08:57
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musichello08:59
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admin0hmm..  ssh user@host | tee -a logfile .. works fine ..  when I use mosh user@host | tee -a logfile .. it does not work fine .. but for me, it will still be useful09:00
bray90820If you create a GPT Partition in windows can you view it in ubuntu09:00
Jordan_Ubray90820: Yes.09:00
bray90820Good09:01
bray90820what about MBR09:01
clctobray90820: yes09:02
bray90820hum09:02
bray90820what would you recommend for a 4tb backup drive09:02
clctogpt, partition sizes are limitted to 2gb in mbr iirc09:03
clcto2tb09:03
bray90820so i should use MBR09:03
bray90820no09:03
bray90820let me resay that09:03
bray90820should i use GPT09:03
clctoMBR stores partition sector information using 32-bit LBA values. This LBA length along with 512 byte sector size (more commonly used) limits the maximum addressable size of the disk to be 2 TiB. Any space beyond 2 TiB cannot be defined as a partition if MBR partitioning is used.09:03
clctofrom archwiki09:04
bray90820So GPT?09:04
llutzbray90820: so yes, you need to use gpt09:04
clctoso i guess you just cant create a partition past 2tb09:04
bray90820ok09:04
bray90820gpt it is09:04
cariverihi. background and emblems not showing anymore, what to do?09:04
clctoor idk exactly how to interpret that09:05
clctoemblems?09:05
carivericlcto: yes the symbols. in xfce they are called emblems.09:05
bray90820Another question09:06
bray90820can Ubuntu see software raid volumes created in windows09:06
BaribalHi. I'm running 12.04 (just installed and upgraded) and am trying to create a USB stick to install 13.04 (64bit). However, running it as user, the "Make startup disk" button is unselectable, and "erase disk" resulsts in: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dbus.exceptions.DBusException: com.ubuntu.USBCreator.Error.NotAuthorized". Running as root (sudo usb-creator-gtk) allows me to "Make Startup Disk", but after a while the program just exits (after the "i09:07
Baribalnstalling the bootloader" status bar) without comment or notice of success. *Did* I just create a valid startup disk? Or did the program just crash? And why won't it work when running as user?09:07
bray90820can Ubuntu see software raid volumes created in windows09:08
Jordan_UBaribal: While I don't know why you're having the problems you are, you should not run GUI programs with sudo; use gksudo instead.09:08
davcbzi'd use virtualbox09:08
Jordan_U!gksudo | Baribal09:08
ubottuBaribal: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)09:08
carivericlcto: the desktop settings seem not to be effective anymore. is rm ~/.cache/sessions and .../.config a good idea?09:08
Jordan_Ubray90820: What type of software RAID?09:09
bray90820Raid 009:09
clcto~/.config is used for multiple applications usually09:09
Jordan_Ubray90820: I mean, is it FakeRAID, Windows Dynamic Disks, something else?09:09
bray90820hum09:10
bray90820I am not sure09:10
poeecan anyone please help me with monitor resolution issues due to nvidia display driver?09:10
aumhi - i've installed xserver-xorg-video-intel to run the 82865G intel GPU chip on my box, but can't get Unity 3D working - have I missed something?09:11
Jordan_Ubray90820: How are you creating the array?09:11
carivericlcto: ~/.config/xfce4/09:11
bray90820Ahh nevermind looks like it's hardware raid09:12
clctoidk what the issue is, sorry09:12
bray90820so i will just create a simple volume09:12
bray90820fat32 would be ok right09:12
bray90820it prob would be09:12
clctobray90820: just go with ntfs09:13
bray90820but i want to use it with ubuntu09:13
clctofat32 4GB filesize limits09:13
bray90820ubuntu works with NTFS?09:13
clctobray90820: yes09:13
bray90820What ate the NTFS limitations in ubuntu09:14
clctonone09:14
Jordan_Ubray90820: It's rare that people have hardware RAID and don't know it. True hardware raid is very expensive.09:14
histobray90820: I wouldn't be performing disk checks in linux with NTFS is all09:14
clctothats probably not exactly true but you can read write09:14
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clctofat32 doesnt even have partitions09:14
histoclcto: yes it does09:14
clctopermissions09:14
clctois what i meant09:14
histolol09:15
bray90820I do have Hardwar raid i payed like $200 for this box09:15
clctoits 3am ...09:15
bray908204AM for me09:15
Jordan_Ubray90820: If you only payed $200 for the motherboard then it almost certainly does not have true hardware RAID, but rather FakeRAID.09:15
bray90820It's an external box09:15
bray90820With esata09:16
Jordan_Ubray90820: OK, then it likely is true hardware RAID, in which case the OS doesn't need any special support as it will appear like any other drive.09:16
bray90820Yes09:17
histobray90820: You can use MBR with 4096 sector sizing to get around the 2TB limit if you need to. But I would just go with GPT  which should be supported by Windows Vista and up09:17
bray90820I went with GPT09:18
histobray90820: Now you just have to decide on filesystem09:18
bray90820Yes09:18
clctontfs09:18
histobray90820: You can read ext3 in windows with added in driver.   Or you can read ntfs in linux with added in driver so choice is yours09:18
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Jordan_Uhisto: bray90820: ntfs-3g has been shipped with almost all distros for years now, so it's odd to call it an "added in driver".09:19
bray90820I will prob create it as NTFS back everything up then restore it in ubuntu and then switch it to ext3 and rebackeverything up09:19
histobray90820: why?09:20
bray90820Why not09:20
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snypwhy do you release daily builds?09:22
OerHekssnyp, only the development version provides daily builds.09:23
bray90820What would be better for ubuntu ext3 or ntfs09:23
knoxxs\LIST09:24
histosnyp: cdimage.ubuntu.com09:25
snypHow do I get the build version of an app using apt-get so that it gracefully installs and uninstalls using apt-get?09:26
snyps/get the build/build the latest09:26
Jordan_Ubray90820: If you're only considering use by Ubuntu, then ext3 is better (supports *NIX style permissions, can be repaired in Ubuntu, probably better performance).09:26
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histosnyp: if you want to build from source and use apt-get you can use something like checkinstall.  However you will find most recent apps in the repos09:27
histobray90820: ntfs has issues with high cpu usage with large files and dealing with fragmentation09:27
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snyphisto, hmm... so the in-between-LTS versions get the latest versions of apps as they are released?09:28
Ben64!latest | snyp09:28
ubottusnyp: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.09:28
histosnyp: close to it09:28
fati have asus silent en210 silent graphics card. please help, how do i install the drivers for this?09:28
histosnyp: if you want bleeding edge apps run a distro like arch or debian unstable09:29
bray90820histo: when you say large files how big are you talking09:29
clctoarch ftw09:29
histobray90820: you would have to conduct your own testing to determine the impact on cpu usage on your system. It's just a known issue09:29
bray90820Alright09:29
snyparch's latest policy broke my system, so i am back to lubuntu09:30
bray90820because i have some movies that are like 4GB09:30
histosnyp: you will find that ubuntu is quite up to date though on the non lts releases09:30
histosnyp: what the move from /bin ?09:30
snypyeah09:30
clctosnyp: did you read the news?09:30
histosnyp: That happens from time to time with arch that is why you need to read their news page prior to updating Syu09:30
snypi like lubuntu though, and i am not moving to arch anytime soon09:31
histosnyp: What is it that you want something that is stable or cutting edge?09:31
snypjust want bug-free app09:31
thunder1212hi i am unable to print from ubuntu 13.04 help !09:32
thunder1212neither local nor through router printing is happening09:33
thunder1212my router has a usb port and i can connect the printer and print from my windows laptop over wifi09:33
thunder1212but the same is not possible from ubuntu?09:33
snyphisto, if a bug is reported, there's a chance it will get fixed in an update right?09:34
thunder1212even if i connect the printer locally to the ubuntu machine i am unable to print09:34
thunder1212i have the linux driver downloaded from the canon website but still i am not able to print09:34
snypthat is sort of my reason for newer versions of apps..09:34
Ben64thunder1212: right, we got it, you can't print. if you give us some information we might be able to help you09:34
chrisbuchholzHey guys, how do i get a custom upstart service to start on boot?09:35
thunder1212there is no error configurint the printer anywhere, it also accepts the command but does not print09:35
thunder1212Ben64, Ok09:35
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thunder1212Ben64, the printer is canon mf3010 i am running ubuntu 13.04 amd 64bit router is dlink dsl2750u09:35
thunder1212Ben64, There is no problem configuring the printer, no error or anything drivers have a 64bit deb file so no problem installing them but the printing does not occur?09:37
BaribalCan somebody confirm or deny that usb-creator-gtk simply exits silently when a boot/install stick is successfully created?09:38
Ben64thunder1212: try this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems09:39
fat_i have an ASUS EN210 silent graphics card driver for my ubuntu. how do i install these drivers? please help09:43
vl4kn0Hi, I was using the latest LTS but I found it unbearably slow, I switched over the fedora which was slow but not as much but then after upgrading to the latest version it got slow too, I thought to myself I had to have slow computer or something so I switched back to ubuntu (the newest stable version) that I will upgrade some harware components if it's going to be really bad. To my surprise it now runs amazingly fast and smooth, probably better than ever before09:49
histovl4kn0: most likely video driver issues09:50
mselvaraDo we have any Home Theater product which is running on Android?10:04
anamanaAnyone know why Samsung Galaxy Note 2 headphones broke within 4 months of owning them?10:17
liher_tengo un problemilla con los graficos, alguien puede ayudarme?10:18
somsipanamana: this channel is for ubuntu support. That question doesn't belong here10:18
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anamanaDo you know of any andorid help channels?10:20
DJones!alis | anamana10:20
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cfhowlettanamana, #nexus4 has a channel and I believe there's an #android as well.10:21
anamanaThanks guys10:21
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hensgiloooo10:28
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cfhowlettcontrapunctus, multi tasking ... downloading my books, planning classes and keeping one eye on the stream ...10:34
JPetersonis there a mirror that has the old min iso? that are missing links here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:37
DJonesJPeterson: Which version are you trying to get?10:38
JPetersonDJones: amd64 11.04 and earlier10:39
urbanslughey guys. Do any of you know if I can create and run a .c/.cpp file in vim and run it without compiling it?10:39
DJonesJPeterson: They're end of life so have probably been removed, you may be able to find a torrent for them, but I doubt it'll be listed on the ubuntu webiste10:40
JPetersonDJones: is the APT archive online for them?10:40
clctourbanslug: you cant run c without compiling10:40
clctourbanslug: what are you trying to do?10:41
urbanslugclcto wow okay thanks. And when I make changes to the file I have to recompile?10:41
clctoyes10:41
histoJPeterson: cdimage.ubuntu.com10:43
DJonesJPeterson: I wouldn't like to say, presumably the repo's for 10.04 will still be there to give the server version (which doesn't go eol until April 2015), but I wouldn't expect to find anything else prior to 12.0410:43
histoJPeterson: No you can't get eol releases via net install10:43
histoJPeterson: all though there is old-releases.ubuntu.com repo10:43
histoJPeterson: is there a reason you want to net install a version that isn't supported?10:44
urbanslugclcto sorry my irc  app keeps crashing.10:44
JPetersonhisto: this problem https://github.com/mirror/vmware/issues/6 "`export MAKEFLAGS=-j2` hang `vmware-vmx` at max cycle use" that doesn't occur in 2.6.32-5-amd6410:44
clctoyou need to recompile10:44
iamaboyhello every10:45
iamaboyhello everyone10:45
iamaboy?10:45
histo!who | clcto10:45
ubottuclcto: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)10:45
urbanslugclcto I am trying to find a way to run my cpp or c files without compiling like I do with an ide like codeblocks10:45
urbanslugclcto  but using vim10:45
histo!downgrade | JPeterson10:45
ubottuJPeterson: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.10:45
iamaboy!hello10:45
clctourbanslug: pretty sure codeblocks compiles on the fly in the background, dont know how to do that in vim. but write a makefile10:46
clctoand it will only compile what has changed, not everything and then in vim you can !make10:46
histo!info linux-image-generic lucid | JPeterson10:46
ubottuJPeterson: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.32.47.54 (lucid), package size 5 kB, installed size 32 kB10:46
histoJPeterson: lucid is still supported on server for a little while.  Also there  is http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10:47
urbanslugclcto so I can run :make! in vim or something?10:47
histoiamaboy: we can see you10:47
clctourbanslug: i think it is just :make yes10:47
iamaboy!histo realy?10:47
ubottuiamaboy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:47
clctoit will let you jump to the errors in the code too i believe10:47
clctohavent used it in a while10:47
clctoubottu: but you need a makefile first10:48
ubottuclcto: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:48
urbanslugclcto the make will keep me from re-compiling?10:48
donttrustemhi guys, I just update the 12.04 distro and get a black screen with flashing cursor.  I have done a ctrl+alt+f1 but now stuck on what to do10:48
clctourbanslug: ^^10:48
iamaboyi'm very happy10:48
histoiamaboy: yes stop using !10:48
clctourbanslug: no, if you write a good makefile, it will only recompile the files that have changed10:48
donttrustemI think it is a video driver issue ...10:48
iamaboyoh, sorry ,i go to here the first time,10:49
donttrustemdo I need to update kernel headers or somehting10:49
urbanslugclcto okay I'll read a little about writing a make file. I am totally new to this.10:49
ActionParsnipdonttrustem: what video chip do you use/10:49
urbanslugclcto I hope making the make file won't be too complex.10:49
clctourbanslug: they arent too bad and they can be generally reused10:50
donttrustemActionParsnip, think it is nvidia...10:50
ActionParsnipdonttrustem: did you upgrade the OS files within Precise, or did you upgrade from Oneiric or Lucid to get to Precise?10:50
donttrustemActionParsnip, it was working fine until I just updated the distor10:50
iamaboyhisto: oh, i'm sorry , i'm the first time to go to here10:51
donttrustemPrecise10:51
donttrustemActionParsnip, I am in the cli10:51
ActionParsnipdonttrustem: but were you changing release, or did you already have Precise and just run regular updates?10:51
clctourbanslug: something like https://github.com/clcto/utile/blob/master/makefile but that isnt perfect by any means10:51
iamaboyhisto: can you see my message?10:51
DJonesiamaboy: Yes the channel can see what you're typing, if you have an Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it10:52
urbanslugclcto many thanks. let me look at it.10:52
donttrustemActionParsnip, I was running precice and carried out a normal apt-get update then upgrade then I updated the distor itś self10:52
urbanslugclcto that make file is just made of the commands you give when compiling.10:53
donttrustemActionParsnip, I ran a apt-get dist-upgrade10:53
clctourbanslug: pretty much. but it only runs g++ -c on the .cpp files that have changed ...10:54
donttrustemActionParsnip, it is running 12.04.2 LTS 3.2.0-45-generic-pae10:54
iamaboyDJones: oh, it's very  good, yes, i have some questions, but i don't good at english, could i speak chinese?10:54
DJones!cn | iamaboy10:55
ubottuiamaboy: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:55
DJonesiamaboy: There is #ubuntu-cn for support in Chinese language, this channel is English only, hope that helps you10:55
NSAlQ: How to convert a PNG to BMP bitmap, not the Windows V5 tho, but earlier version?10:55
donttrustemActionParsnip, how can I get back into the gui to change the video driver back to the original or do I have to update kernal headers or something10:55
urbanslugclcto is the process different when I want to create .c  files?10:55
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ur0plhi10:56
sergchsr3learn english is very fun and easy10:56
iamaboyDJones: year, it's very useful, thanks very much ,10:56
urbanslugclcto scripts are a ton easier to work with. I see why people (including me) like them now.10:56
ur0plis there a hotkey to switch between workspaces?10:56
clctonot particularly, you change the compiler and such.10:56
NSAlQ.1: Using imagemagick. My command looks like this so far: imagemagick convert example.png -alpha off example.bmp10:56
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urbanslugclcto I really thought that c uses the gcc compiler. I use the gcc compiler and it works for both.10:57
clctour0pl: most open source programs will have a makefile of some sort, and it depends a lot on the scripting language. knowing how to wrtie a makefile is good if you want to do any developing10:57
clctogcc is c, g++ is c++. gcc will not compile a c++ file iirc10:58
ur0plcic, huh?10:58
clctourbanslug: not ur0pl above10:58
ur0pli meant on the desktop10:58
ur0ploh10:58
ur0plk10:58
clctour0pl: but i think it is ctl-alt-arrow key10:59
ur0plalt+ctl arrows seem to do it10:59
ur0plyeah10:59
ur0plthanks10:59
donttrustemActionParsnip, I am now stumped on what is causing the problem .... how can I roll back11:01
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ejvubuntu, I'm proud of you. there's a mysql update and instead of interrupting mysql service, you held it back; you've come so far my child.11:02
thunder1212i have a dlink dsl2750u router which has a usb port and print server functionality but i am unable to print11:02
NSAlHow to convert PNG to BMP using "convert"?11:03
Ben64convert foo.png foo.bmp11:03
ActionParsnipdonttrustem: hold SHIFT at boot and select the previous kernel11:04
ActionParsnipNSAl: convert filname.png output.bmp11:04
clctodoes ubuntu have mariadb, jw11:04
jribNSAl: convert foo.png bar.bmp11:05
ActionParsnipNSAl: its that simple, there are tonnes f guides online for the convert command too....11:05
donttrustemActionParsnip, I have managed to get to the gui ... strange I just rebooted11:05
ActionParsnipdonttrustem: screw it then :)11:05
BluesKajHey all11:05
NSAlActionParsnip: But I need the BMP to be BMP3. It converts it to BMP511:05
donttrustemActionParsnip, but it is using the generic driver .... I can´t remember where I changed it before11:06
Ben64NSAl: have you googled it? I found it in 10 seconds11:07
NSAlBen64: I am on a not very comfortable device to use Google atm :>11:09
Ben64NSAl: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/formats.php11:10
NSAlBen64: Thx11:11
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meeton 13.04, during startup I just get the default blue stripped wallpaper for 5-10 seconds then my desktop is shown.no splash image is visible during start up. is this by default?11:16
AlexPortablehi11:17
AlexPortableSuddenly my printers are gone, what to do?11:17
clctoAlexPortable: did someone steal them?11:18
AlexPortablehow can someone steal software?11:18
AlexPortableIf I click print I an only see 'print to file'11:19
clctoAlexPortable: i was joking ... you just said they were gone, not from 'print dialog'11:19
AlexPortablethats what i meant11:20
donttrustemwhen I check in addtional driver nothing is displayed11:20
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donttrustemI am running 3.2.0-45-generic-pae11:21
pac-man_hola11:24
pac-man_servidor o canal de ubuntu en español?11:24
DJones!es | pac-man_11:24
ubottupac-man_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.11:24
pac-man_ok tank you11:24
pac-man_jaja11:24
DJonesYou're welcome11:24
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ActionParsnipNSAl: anything in the man page?11:27
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ActionParsnipNSAl: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1625911:27
ActionParsnipNSAl: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=imagemagick+convert+to+BMP311:28
Pac_ManHello, I have some problems with squid3 i do not know if anyone can help me?11:28
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Pac_ManDJones,  You've used squid3?11:30
accchi11:30
DJonesPac_Man: Soryy, I haven't, if you don't get an answer here or in the Spanish channel, you could also ask in #ubuntu-server11:30
Pac_Manok11:32
drun2Hi all. How i can bind any function on extra-buttons of my mouse?11:32
drun2sorry for engish11:32
clctodrun2: do they report in xev?11:33
darkmuttany way to increase brush/line/pencil size in kolourpaint??11:33
drun2clcto: I dont know, what is it )11:35
in0culahow to secure the privacy in ubuntu, not send data to canonical or amazon etc?11:35
drun2Standart function of this extra-buttons - its "move up" or "down", and i have a config file11:36
Pac_ManI want to mount a proxy server, to have free internet in my cell, I do not know if anyone knows, already configure squid3 but I do not know how to enable that supports the connection of the phone11:36
clctodrun2: open a terminal and run xev | grep -i button and then in the window that popped up use the mouse buttons and see if anything shows up in terminal11:36
clctohttp://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/xev-determine_custom_keybindings this is for keyboards but it is similar11:38
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Pac_Manclcto,  i'm sorry you know something about squid311:40
clctoi know they are tasty11:40
clctobut no11:40
drun2clcto: xev | grep -i dont work.11:40
drun2becouse need a template [file]11:40
AlexPortableanyone?11:42
drun2clcto: Sry, i dont write a "button"11:42
AlexPortableanyone?11:46
Pac_ManAlexPortable,  hi11:46
Pac_Man you know something about squid311:46
histo!ask11:49
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:49
histoAlexPortable: add your printer11:49
histo!anyone > Pac_Man11:50
ubottuPac_Man, please see my private message11:50
Pac_Manhisto,  what?11:52
histoPac_Man: Just ask your question not if someone knows about it11:53
Pac_ManAs he asked then?11:56
Pac_Manhisto,11:56
Pac_ManDon't know anyone here, that is why I am asking that if anyone knows11:57
Pac_ManI could not ask for help?11:57
mok0Pac_Man: What is your question?11:59
Pac_ManTook me days wanting to make a proxy server in ubuntu 1304 with squid3, what I really want is to provide internet to my cell phone through a proxy, i don't know if I explain, I use a translator, I don't know much english12:01
Pac_Manmok0,12:01
mok0Pac_Man: And what is the problem with setting up squid?12:03
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carivericlcto: Hi. I found the problem. nautilus is not started in order to handle the desktop. thus the desktop is not loaded. as soon as I start one instance of nautilus the desktop appears. though I think thunar should be assigned or anything else12:04
cariveridoes anyone know how to set a file browser to handle the desktop?12:07
cariveriI use the xfce desktop12:07
dmavroidHello, i have posted my problem on ubuntu forum with topic : "Hp Pavilion g6 AMD radeon HD 6400M/7400M Problem" if someone can help i will really appreciate it12:09
samgabbayHey Guys Sam from the QATeam is here to help12:09
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samgabbaydmavroid: explain your issue :)12:09
Rickardo1I'm trying to connect to my samba share from osx but get authentication failure.. I have followed the guide.. security = user12:09
samgabbaydmavroid: if its the graphics then you cant fix it cause i have the same issue and so far amd has dropped support and the open driver doesent work12:10
dmavroidsamgabbay: i have a prblem with ATI/AMD drivers installation12:10
Pac_ManThe problem is that it is not, how should I configure it to allow access, for example, that you're only in it to the IP and port, and you can use my proxy12:10
Pac_Manmok0,12:10
dmavroidsamgabbay: if i install another distro of linux?12:10
adamkdmavroid: What's the problem?  Didn't I help you with graphics issues last week?12:11
mok0Pac_Man: Did you look at the documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html12:11
samgabbaydmavroid: i dont think it will fix it because there almost from all the same root but what do you needthe drivers for12:11
samgabbayadamk: they dropped support with amd soooooo theres no fix man12:11
dmavroidadamk: Yes you helped me and thank you but...no the problem is not fixed :S12:11
adamkWell what's the problem?12:11
mok0Pac_Man: you need to put your access rules in /etc/squid/squid.conf12:12
samgabbaydmavroid: are you trying to speed up the unity search cause i have a fix for that12:12
dmavroidsamgabbay: i have no unity thats my problem :P12:12
samgabbaydmavroid: did yoyu try to install the driver ????12:13
Pac_ManIf i make, but in all of the tutorials explain how to allow access to the computers on your network, but does not say how to allow access to any IP that you want to connect12:13
adamkdmavroid: unity should work fine with the open source drivers...  It should also work fine with the legacy catalyst driver, or the current catalyst driver.12:13
dmavroidsamgabbay: ooo yes!!!12:13
samgabbayadamk: it doesent work12:13
adamkSure it does.  I've used it.12:13
adamkdmavroid: What GPU, and what driver are you currently using?12:13
samgabbaydmavroid: i did the samething as you and yes it ruines unity just reinstall ubuntu without installing the drivers12:13
AlexPortablehisto: Why did it got removed?12:14
samgabbayadamk: you cant fix it cause its mobility radeon and its not compatible with the open drivers i suggest using the default ones12:14
dmavroidadamk: it works with xorg but not with fglrx drivers. i also tryied to install the drivers manually and i get a message saying ""the system is running at low graphics12:14
adamkdmavroid: Wait, you have a hybrid GPU, right?12:15
dmavroidsamgabbay: ok but i have an overheating problem as well12:15
samgabbaydmavroid: i did the same and dude theres simply no way to fix it just reinstall ubuntu and do not install the drivers but if you wanna speed up your unity i have something here for tyou to do after your installation http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV12:15
M4heHi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and want to permanently toggle the way my 'fn'-key on the keyboard works. "echo 2 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode" does the trick temporarily but if I try to put "options hid_apple fnmode=2" into /etc/modprobe.d/apple.conf it is not set at bootup.12:15
samgabbaydmavroid: is the issue after installing the graphics?12:15
dmavroidadamk: yes!!!!12:16
dmavroidsamgabbay: yes!12:16
mok0Pac_Man: Look in the document I quoted above, point 3.)12:16
samgabbaydmavroid: reinstall ubuntunlike i sayd12:16
adamkdmavroid: Right, and my final suggestion was to use the intel GPU and turn off the radeon GPU using ACPI.12:16
samgabbaydmavroid: i did the same and dude theres simply no way to fix it just reinstall ubuntu and do not install the drivers but if you wanna speed up your unity i have something here for tyou to do after your installation http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV12:16
Pac_ManIf i put acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.012:16
adamkWhy reinstall Ubuntu?  Just remove the proprietary drivers...12:17
adamk<sigh>  Screw it... I'm done with this conversation.12:17
samgabbayadamk: you cant dude12:17
dmavroidsamgabbay: do you have an overheat problem as well?12:17
ActionParsnipM4he: could add the command in /etc/rc.local12:17
ActionParsnipM4he: above the exit 0 line12:17
Pac_Man2013/06/10 06:17:17| ERROR: '0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0' needs to be replaced by the term 'all'.12:17
Pac_Man2013/06/10 06:17:17| SECURITY NOTICE: Overriding config setting. Using 'all' instead.12:17
samgabbaydmavroid: no but i had no unity and my fix was to simply reinstall everything from scratch12:17
M4heActionParsnip: Thank you! I will try that.12:17
samgabbayand speed up the unity search and system with this paste i made here http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV12:17
mok0Pac_Man: You want to give all IPs access?12:17
M4heActionParsnip: when you say command, you mean the echo line, don't you?12:18
Pac_Manyes12:18
dmavroidsamgabbay: i will do that thank you mate! thank you a lot12:18
samgabbaydmavroid: pleasure but like i said dont forget to do this to have a faster unity12:19
samgabbayhttp://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV12:19
samgabbay:)12:19
Pac_ManI want you or any user of any party can connect12:19
samgabbaydmavroid: im sorry theress no way to fix it other than reinstall but follow the pastebin and it should be better12:19
samgabbay:)12:19
mok0Pac_Man: You should probably put "acl all src all"12:19
samgabbaydmavroid: i tried myself to install the graphics and it never works for mobility radeons cause there not compatible with the opensource drivers12:19
mok0Pac_Man: The first "all" is just a name12:20
dmavroidsamgabbay: okok! i have spend one week on this thing and i was ready to drop linux and go back to windows..but if this works it will be my pleasure to stay with the team. is there any possibility that amd will fix the problem?12:20
mok0Pac_Man: The second "all" replaces "0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0"12:20
dmavroidsamgabbay: any suggestion for the temperature? i have heard for jupiter should i try it?12:21
Pac_ManWARNING: (B) '::/0' is a subnetwork of (A) '::/0'12:22
Pac_Man2013/06/10 06:21:54| WARNING: because of this '::/0' is ignored to keep splay tree searching predictable12:22
Pac_Man2013/06/10 06:21:54| WARNING: You should probably remove '::/0' from the ACL named 'all'12:22
samgabbaydmavroid: eventually and hopefully but for sure in the next upgrade because im from the qateam and il try doing hardware testing for the upcoming os in september but without the graphics for me everything runs fine right out the box soooo no worries after you follow the pastebin everything should look fater but be careful and follow it correctly ht12:22
samgabbaytp://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV and for the temperature just check your fan if itsdirty or anything and reinstall ubuntu check if that will fix it :)12:22
dmavroidsamgabbay: i will take a look now and if i cannot understand something i will let you know12:23
dmavroidsamgabbay: thank you again12:23
samgabbaydmavroid: alright no problem but il be leaving the irc soon so email me if anything samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com12:23
samgabbay:))) your welcome have an awesome day and if you got anymore questions come back to the irc or goto askuuntu.com12:24
dmavroidsamgabbay: you are the best! i will let you know either way12:24
thunder1212can i create usb startup disk using a ntfs partition12:24
samgabbaydmavroid: perfect talk to ya later mate :)12:24
samgabbaythunder1212: what do you mean......12:24
thunder1212i have to createe a live usb disk with 12.04.2 and i  have a 12.04.1 LTS installed on my desktop12:25
samgabbaythunder1212: if your trying to make it from windows go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows for mac go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx for linux go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu12:26
samgabbaythunder1212:  :) enjoy :)12:26
samgabbayall details should be there12:26
Pac_ManAnd sought much in google and i cannot find the solution, then my question is, if the line is that I must add to the configuration to support the access of any ip? And if so, why I get an error?12:26
Pac_Manmok0,12:27
mok0Pac_Man: AFAICS you get an error because the syntax you are using is wrong12:27
mok0Pac_Man: It is the parser of the config file complaining12:28
Pac_Manthis is the syntax12:29
Pac_Manacl all src all12:29
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Pac_Manhttp_access allow all12:29
thunder1212samgabbay, can i use ntfs formatted usb?12:30
Pac_ManI can upload the configuration file to pastebin, so that whichever way you look at12:31
AlexPortablehisto:hi?12:31
samgabbaythunder1212: yea you can12:32
samgabbaythunder1212: but it will reformat the usb12:32
Pac_Manhttp://pastebin.com/Qda54dxt12:32
thunder1212samgabbay, ok12:33
Pac_Manthis is the file mok012:33
samgabbaythunder1212: it might format it to fat32 im not sure but i belive it should be just fine12:33
mok0Pac_Man: Does the version on pastebin work?12:36
tom[]is there a standard procedure for installing php 5.3 without suhosin?12:36
Pac_Manif the file squid.conf12:37
Pac_Manmok0,12:37
samgabbayla la la12:37
HypothesisFrogI'm on ubuntu 12.10. Does anybody know how to get the upgrade-manager thing working on the MATE desktop?12:38
Pac_Manis*12:38
k1l_HypothesisFrog: mate is not supported. best is to ask the mint guys for support for mate desktop12:38
samgabbayHypothesisFrog: are you trying to ubrage to 13.0412:39
HypothesisFrogsamgabbay that is correct sir. yes.12:39
samgabbayHypothesisFrog: give me a second il help ya<12:39
HypothesisFrogsamgabbay thank you sir.12:39
k1l_HypothesisFrog: you can upgrade per CLI: "sudo do-release-upgrade"12:40
samgabbayHypothesisFrog: this should help :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/279620/how-do-i-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-0412:40
HypothesisFrogk1l_  samgabbay thanks12:40
samgabbayHypothesisFrog: it has a full guide on how to do it :)12:40
samgabbayHypothesisFrog: your welcome :)12:40
samgabbayil be back soon bye everyone :))))))) happy ubuntuing :)12:42
mok0Pac_Man: I might have given you wrong info. Here, they are using "acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0" http://horms.net/projects/redundant_linux_paper/related/squid/detail/acl.html12:44
mok0Pac_Man: Perhaps try #ubuntu-server12:44
eva__..12:45
BADTUXrm -rf /*12:46
DJonesBADTUX: Don't do that12:46
k1l_!warning12:47
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!12:47
Pac_ManOk then seguire looking for information, I wait algun day to be able to do it xD, thank you for everything mok012:49
mok0Pac_Man: Sorry I couldn't help solve it12:49
Pac_Manno problem12:50
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Pac_Mantanck you12:50
rohanwhen I killed a process through kill [pid] command. how can I restart that process once again?12:50
Ben64rohan: start it back up however you originally did, theres no "unkill"12:51
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airjumpHello12:56
bobotmjoin13:00
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zathrazhi. I am currently trying to PXE boot Ubuntu 13.04 desktop. In the booting process it is claimed that /cdrom does not exist. Is this correct? Should I change stuff to /media or something?13:06
BlackPanxvs001 ~ $ dpkg-reconfigure console-data | this reconfigures keymap... where would i check what keyboard is set currently ? where's the file ?13:08
demoniohi all. i've a wireless adapter with chipset rtl8187 that on my win8 works perfectly but in ubuntu it doesn't seem work, the signal power is too weak while in win8 is power13:19
demonioso can someone say me where is the problem? driver?13:19
zathrazdemonio, depends on which driver I presume. native or wrapped. Native drivers can usually be tweaked regarding signal strength but that might heathen up the device making it less reliable and may reduces it's lifetime13:21
vijuhi13:22
zathrazcheck iwconfig and friends13:22
vijuhow do i make a video call in empathy?13:22
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bindisigh, why did my remote desktop settings (vnc server that came in ubuntu) reset after I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10? (and then 12.04)13:24
bindiits a mini laptop with a dead screen and its a PITA to plug a screen in and configure stuff. can I enable LAN access somehow using SSH?13:24
demoniozathraz,  i think that maybe i should switch off the internel wifi card and download driver from site of provider and then install it13:25
shadejwhat is the easiest way to install mail server?13:25
zathrazshadej, use an applicance13:25
elspuddyhi, is there a way of seeing what error a cron job has done ?13:26
zathrazelspuddy, syslog/messages in var13:26
zathrazor execute it by hand13:26
shadejzathraz: what kind?13:26
zathrazdemonio, that would lead to close source drivers13:27
zathrazopensource should work13:27
zathrazshadej, turnkeylinux in a vm : mailservers are very complex13:28
zathrazif done right that bis13:28
zathraz*is13:28
shadejzathraz: am using ubuntu13:28
demonioyeah but i think that the manifacturer provides linux driver13:28
zathraziredmail is also an option if you are more adventurus but do not want to config everything by hand13:29
shadejzathraz: how abt postfix?13:31
zathrazpostfix is great13:32
zathrazbut your question is a bit limited13:32
elspuddyhow do i find out the last time a file has been accessed ?13:32
zathrazmailserver for what: local users, internet company? requires mailscanning for virussen etc13:32
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zathrazpostfix, but also say exim requires some knowledge and does not provide these extras out of the box13:33
zathrazshadej, exim is probably already installed on your box13:35
shadejzathraz: no it is not installed13:35
erthadhey, is there a way to install ia32-libs-multiarch on precise in PPA-builder at launchpad?13:36
zathrazshadej, there usually is a mailserver installed to handle system mail13:37
zathrazexim is the default in Debian, I presume also in Ubuntu13:37
shadejzathraz: may be sendmail13:37
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zathrazshadej, just note, postfix, exim, sendmail : smtp and not so much imap13:38
zathraz"mailserver" is usually a set of multiple components13:38
purplehzwhat happens on a ubuntu server if a process requests more memory than is available?13:38
zathrazshadej, are you running 13.04 ?13:39
purplehzdoes the server just freeze or what?13:39
shadejzathraz: yeah13:39
shadejhow can i get it all package at one13:39
aendrew Anyone know what the current support status for systemd is? I'm wanting to do http://savanne.be/articles/deploying-node-js-with-systemd/ but the warning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd#Warning.21_Experimental_code is pretty, uh, discouraging.13:39
zathrazshadej, could you check for me please if  "/cdrom" does exist?13:39
bgardnerpurplehz, it will swap out to the swap space: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq13:40
shadejzathraz: yes there is13:40
zathrazshadej, like for smtp you also have various options for pop/imap. Therefor I suggested to make it simple and run something off the shelve13:40
zathrazty13:40
zathrazso, either a VM or iredmail13:41
zathrazor something similar13:41
shadejzathraz: what is vm?13:41
zathrazvirtual machine13:41
shadejdoest it contain all the components13:41
shadejhmm13:41
shadejwhat abt iredmail13:41
zathrazso, you install virtualbox, xen or whatever and then run an aplicance13:42
zathrazit will be a linux in a linux environment13:42
zathraziredmail is just a combined package. Just google13:42
designbybeckIt seems others are having the problem along with myself. As of recently Flash on YouTube and the like, in Chrome, Firefox, Chromium will not play on Ubuntu 13.0413:42
designbybeckMaybe a recent update? Any Suggestions?13:43
jpdszathraz: Openstack is what the cool kids do these days.13:43
demoniosomeone know how add the email address of the user so that when he types mail he receives his email?13:43
designbybeckI have uninstalled and reinstalled flash13:44
zathrazjpds, I usually use ESX or virtualbox for local machines13:44
cipheri need help on installing ubuntu13:44
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designbybeckcipher:  what kind of help13:44
jpdsdemonio: You want to receive email that you send?13:44
designbybeckGuest84372: what step are you in installing13:44
designbybeckHas anyone else had problems with Flash/YouTube videos not playing recently on Ubuntu 13.0413:45
demoniono that other send me, i'm reading a book about unix and there is a command "mail" but it doesn't explain how add the address email for user13:45
gordonjcpdemonio: mail <address to send to>13:46
gordonjcpdemonio: what exactly are you trying to do?13:46
zathrazdemonio, mail is usually read by a mailclient for the current user when executed from commandline13:46
demoniogordonjcp, i want that when i type mail, it show me my emails13:47
gordonjcpdemonio: show you them in what?13:47
gordonjcptype "mail" into what?13:47
demoniofor example i type13:47
demoniomail13:47
demonioand shell return "there isn't email for demonio"13:48
gordonjcpdemonio: that would be heirloom-mailx13:48
demonioso but i never setted my email address13:48
gordonjcpif you actually want to *use* a command-line mail client, look for something like mutt13:48
gordonjcpyes13:48
gordonjcpyou don't set an email address13:48
gordonjcpit only works with your local user13:49
cipher234618I have two partitions, one contains windows, and other has some important files, I want to format the partition having windows and NOT format the partition having my files13:49
cipher234618If i do "Replace Windows With Ubuntu"., will i lose other partittion?13:49
demoniogordonjcp, mail is used for talk among the users?13:50
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zathrazdemonio, no, the oldest instant messaging is probably talkd. But nobody uses that13:51
demonioyeah is write command13:52
sbeckerhas anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop with preinstalled windows8? I already deactivated UEFI  but starting ubuntu results in a status 0x000007b error.13:53
gordonjcpdemonio: decades ago, mail(1) was used to send email13:54
gordonjcpdemonio: no-one really uses it any more13:54
cipher234618 I have two partitions, one contains windows, and other has some important files, I want to format the partition having windows and NOT format the partition having my files . If i do "Replace Windows With Ubuntu"., will i lose other partittion?13:55
gordonjcpit might be used by scripts for sending email, but it's really not a good choice for end users13:55
gordonjcpcipher234618: you shouldn't do, but it might be an idea to partition manually just to make sure13:55
cipher234618Ok13:55
demoniogordonjcp,  ok then i'll should use fetch-mutt?13:56
gordonjcpcipher234618: I strongly recommend making a backup of your important files before mucking with partitions13:56
demonio!13:56
gordonjcpdemonio: you could try mutt13:56
gordonjcpnot sure about fetch-mutt13:56
demoniobut is difficult to configure13:57
demonio?13:57
net0pssechi guys how do u install .conf files on ubuntu13:58
adamknet0pssec: That question is way to open ended to have a simple answer.  What are you trying to do?14:00
net0pssecadamk: i have a .conf file i think it needs installation cuz i cannot get a grip on it14:00
AlexPortableHow come my printers are gone from the list?14:01
adamknet0pssec: Still not enough detauls.  conf file for what?14:01
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net0pssecadamk: i will ask the guys who sent it for more details about it maybe i am getting something wrong14:02
DJHenjinSoo, I have a ubuntu 12.04 server that I have been using /etc/network/interfaces to set up virtual Nics for different IP's to seperate routing of different clients services. However The most recent IP I have added causes an error which reads http://pastebin.com/5WHMP9s4 when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart14:02
ActionParsnipDJHenjin: check line 45 and the one above and below it, check very carefully14:03
kryptonhi, i downloaded a xubuntu zoneminder live cd, but zoneminder is not installed it seems when using livecd but it is in the packagge manager so i installed xbunutu to hdd but now the weird thing is zoneminder has disappeared from the package mamager so i can no longer install it, what the hell happended14:03
DJHenjinok, duh.14:04
kryptonxubuntu version is 8.1014:04
ActionParsnipDJHenjin: also ensure interfaces is owned by root:root and is 64414:04
DJHenjinnow when i do the same it returns RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring up eth0:0. however the interfaces are actually brought up properly14:04
kryptoni know it's old but this is what the livecd with zoneminder used14:04
ActionParsnipkrypton: Intrepid is EOL14:04
DJHenjinis this just an annoyance that I can ignore if it is bringing the interfaces up correctly14:05
k1l_krypton: 8.10 is way out of support14:05
k1l_krypton: get a supported release and you can install packages from the repos14:06
nanyaks_net0pssec: The details and use case should have been confirmed before you try doing anything with the file as it could have *unexpected* consequences14:06
kryptoni am guessing that xubuntu did some sort of update of the package manager and decided zoneminder was out of date, i don't recall giving me permission14:06
net0pssecnanyaks: thanks.. i will note that in case of next time14:06
k1l_krypton: there are no packages in the repos for 8.10 anymore14:07
k1l_!eol | krypton14:07
ubottukrypton: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:07
nanyaks_net0pssec: No problem :)14:07
DJHenjinThanks for the help. I must depart now14:07
kryptonkll I don't really have time to start all over again, besides I will have the issue of then finding the right release for zoneminder14:07
k1l_krypton: its not about what you want. its about that unsupported old releases have no packages in the repos anymore. so you cant install anything.14:09
kryptonI don't see why i can't use a old release, that does not explain why zoneminder disappeared when this version is suppose to be all about that program14:09
k1l_krypton: if you would listen and read the link from the bot you would understand14:09
geniiDJHenjin: I'd also suggest to use sudo restart networking ..because it's an upstart job now, instead of directly running the legacy file for sysvinit directly14:09
kryptonkll, i don't find that very helpful14:10
geniiBleh. Lag.14:10
kryptonare there not any repo's that keep old package versions, why the hell are old releases been distributed still if you can't use them14:12
jribkrypton: you can use them, it's just not supported nor advised14:13
IdleOnekrypton: they are still available for archive/historical purposes.14:13
jribkrypton: the major issue is that unsupported releases no longer receive security updates14:13
kryptonbloody weird that a livecd would be distributed for zonemonitor but not actually have zonemonitor on it and then can't download it because release is old14:14
jribkrypton: what is zonemonitor?14:14
k1l_krypton: talk with zonemonitor about that problem14:15
kryptonjrib, others here are telling me i can't use this release because there are no repos for it14:16
k1l_!eol | krypton14:16
ubottukrypton: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:16
jribkrypton: why don't we try to get you on a supported release first14:16
k1l_krypton: read the bots message14:16
kryptonzonemonitor is a cctv monitoring program, 1 of only a few14:16
jribkrypton: you mean "zoneminder"?14:16
sbeckerhas anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop with preinstalled windows8? I already deactivated UEFI  but starting ubuntu results in a status 0x000007b error. Booting via cd does not work.14:16
kryptonyes, sorry zoneminder14:17
k1l_!info zoneminder14:17
ubottuzoneminder (source: zoneminder): Linux video camera security and surveillance solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.25.0-4ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1860 kB, installed size 5935 kB14:17
k1l_so why not install a supported ubuntu release and install zoneminder then?14:17
jribkrypton: you should be able to install 12.04 LTS or 13.04 (latest release) and use the repositories to install zoneminder14:18
terexhi14:18
kryptonwell I don't know what releases support zoneminder and also I am running on old laptop so an older release will be better14:18
rszwhat is the next best alternative to team viewer for accessing a ubuntu desktop from another system over the network?14:18
jribkrypton: if it's in the repositories, it's supported.  zoneminder is in the repositories. What are the specifications on your machine?14:19
kryptonwhich is why i downloaded a release of a livecd that was specifically for zoneminder14:19
adamkkrypton: Where did you download it from?14:19
adamkkrypton: Certainly not ubuntu.com...14:20
kryptonhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/zoneminder-cd/14:20
adamkkrypton: OK, so ask the people running that project for support.14:20
jribkrypton: I don't see hat you gain other than saving yourself a single step (installing zoneminder from the repositories).  I'd advise using 12.0414:21
jribkrypton: that project just looks dead14:22
kryptonthat's great jrib, thanks, what releases is it in repo's for though. My laptop is a Pentium M, 1.6Ghz with 1/2 gig ram14:22
jribkrypton: 12.04 code name "precise" is the name of the ubuntu release if that is what you are asking?14:23
kryptonyes, thanks14:23
jribkrypton: you may have some issues running the default environment on 12.04 with that laptop, so you may want to use lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04 instead.  They share the same repositories but just have different defaults, so you'll still be able to install zoneminder easily through the repositories14:23
kryptonok, what was the version before 12.04 because i think i have lubuntu 11 something on another machine14:24
xlairehello everyone14:24
xlairejust want to sit14:25
kryptonbut could not find zoneminder in the software center on that one14:25
jribkrypton: 11.10 was the version before but that is no longer supported14:25
krypton12.04 is latest?14:25
jribkrypton: 12.04 is the latest LTS14:25
jrib!lts | krypton14:25
ubottukrypton: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)14:25
kryptoni had to use 11.10 on my other machine, 12.04 did not work14:26
k1l_if you use not-supported ubuntu releases you will not find any packages in the softwarecenter14:26
DarkSim_Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 (with xubuntu-desktop) and I'm trying to mount a Canon Ixus 55 camera but it doesn't show up, can someone help me?14:26
kryptonkll that is strange as i have installed software from software center on 11.1014:27
jribkrypton: well start by trying to use 12.04 on the machine you want to use now... if you find an issue, *then* worry about it and come back for support here14:27
cfhowlettDarkSim, try launching thunar to see if it appears.  also try nautilus.  for some reason, different results with my nexus 414:28
k1l_krypton: you are still missing the point of a release loosing the support. it doesnt loose the support from the beginning14:28
kryptononly problem is jrib that chews up a lot of time trialing and erroring different releases, which is why i would rather go for an older release i already know works, it's just a matter of finding out what release will make installing zoneminder easy14:29
jribkrypton: 12.04 is the release I suggest you use14:29
DarkSim_Hm, cfhowlett. I can find the camera in Nautilus but not in Thunar14:29
kryptonkll, I don't think i ever missed your point but i think you missed mine14:29
DarkSim_Unless you have some sort of final touch I guess this will have to do for now :D14:30
k1l_krypton: but since 10.04 (server version) , 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 have zoneminder in the repos i think 11.10 had it, too. just use a support version and you can install zoneminder from the repos14:30
cfhowlettDarkSim, same same.  use what works ...14:30
anton_ehis it usual for my USB microphone and my USB camera to be identified as keyboards ? this is what my Xorg.0.log states14:31
sbeckerhas anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop with preinstalled windows8? I already deactivated UEFI  but booting via cd does not work,14:31
kryptonkll, now you are answering in the way i was looking for in the beginning14:31
k1l_krypton: we already told you releases that ran out of support are not supported in here.14:31
kryptonoh now you are saying that support is not offered by people in here for older releases, that is a different point again to what you said in the beginning14:32
xadidas4lifexhey, i have a macbook pro. and i have ubuntu installed on a partition of my harddrive.14:33
k1l_krypton: nope. i said that since the beginning14:33
leonvvWhat is the meaning of a "@" after a file name ?14:33
cfhowlett!mac|xadidas4lifex,14:33
ubottuxadidas4lifex,: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages14:33
xadidas4lifexif I update my mac from 10.7.5 to the latest 10.7, will it mess up?14:33
kryptonso kll you can speak for everybody and say that no support is offered in this irc channel for older releases?14:33
cfhowlettxadidas4lifex, ask the mac folk ...14:34
xadidas4lifexdamn14:34
xadidas4lifexi hate mac folk...14:34
cfhowlettkrypton, as a rule End of Life releases are NOT supported ... by definition14:34
xadidas4lifex$50 to get an answer for one question14:34
cfhowlett!mac|xadidas4lifex,14:34
jribkrypton: yes, "no support" includes officially no support in this channel.  We'll generally help you upgrade to a supported release though14:34
DarkSim_Thanks so much for the help cfhowlett!14:35
DarkSim_Goodbye!14:35
cfhowlettDarkSim, be safe/have fun14:35
xlairewhy ubuntu is very nice!!!14:36
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xlaire?14:36
ActionParsnipxlaire: depends on needs14:36
cfhowlettxlaire, is that a question or a statement?14:36
kryptonso that is a rule in this channel that on one can offer support for older linux releases?14:36
xlairenot sure you guys been serious14:37
xlairejust want to say something lol14:37
leonvvDoes nobody know what the "@" is about after file names ?14:37
cfhowlettkrypton, End of Life = no support ... as stated, you can help upgrading to  a supported version.14:37
ActionParsnipleonvv: in what folder?14:37
leonvvsys/class/power_supply14:37
kryptonno support by who though?14:37
ActionParsnipkrypton: try calling Microsoft to get support for Windows 98, same story14:37
jribkrypton: if someone wants to help you and makes you aware of what the issues are, I personally won't stop them.  That being said, you already know where we stand: install a supported release, probably 12.04.  zoneminder is in it's repositories.  Do you have any other questions?14:38
k1l_krypton: yep. stop begging on that. old releases dont get any updates. that includes no security updates. so its not supported to use old releases14:38
cfhowlettkrypton, no one.  seriously, it's not that hard a concept.  try getting support for windows 98.  same result.14:38
jribs/'//14:38
kryptonif i go on a windows irc channel and ask about old windows version i don't get this eol line though14:38
k1l_!eol | krypton14:38
ubottukrypton: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:38
cfhowlett!eol|krypton,14:39
ubottukrypton,: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:39
kryptonnever asked for any updates14:39
k1l_krypton: read that link. its given you 4th times now!14:39
cfhowlettkrypton, do yourself a favor and actually read this so you know what is happening.  I'm done.14:39
kryptonor expected them on a old release14:39
jribhe's doing a fresh install anyway from what I gathered14:39
ActionParsnipkrypton: the releases taht are EOL are dead so support can be focussed on newer releases, if you do a clean install of Precise you will get support til April 201714:39
kryptoneasier said than done, not everyone can run the latest release on their machine because of incompatiblities14:40
leonvvCan you read out a symlink just like any other file ?14:40
jribkrypton: are you one of these people?  You haven't tried.14:40
jribleonvv: what do you mean by "read out"?14:40
kryptonnope14:41
xlairebeen reading online tutorial and books, still dont get it, i was windows user for productivity application and just this year, i switch to this ubuntu14:41
leonvvJust like you would with normal files14:41
jribleonvv: ok give an example with normal files...14:41
xlairei still dont understand the drive14:41
xlairethe mounting of devices14:41
xlairecan anyone explain in straight answer how this thing works14:41
leonvvGet the contents from a .txt file using C or another language, that's what I would call "read out"14:42
xlairein windows, drive are can easily picture them out14:42
anton_ehis it usual for my USB microphone and my USB camera to be identified as keyboards ? this is what my Xorg.0.log states or do I have driver issues that need resolving?14:42
leonvvI need to get the battery state programmatically14:42
jribleonvv: I don't see why not.  Probably depends on your call.  You probably have a convenience library you can use too14:43
kryptonif you don't want to help someone because you don't agree with giving support on older versions of linux then i suggest you shut up14:45
meLonI upgraded 10.04 -> 12.04, and now apt is all broken.  http://pastie.org/private/ohepxjrovsn7k48duxdxqa  Any suggestions?14:45
cfhowlettkrypton, now you're just being nasty.  Please stop.  immediately14:45
jribmeLon: how did you upgrade?14:45
jribsome people just want to make things hard for themselves for some reason14:46
leonvvjrib: allright, thanks14:46
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meLonoh, god jrib.  I think I did something...  do-release-upgrade14:47
jribmeLon: do you want dovecot?14:48
meLonYea14:48
k1l_!rootirc > Guest9203114:48
ubottuGuest92031, please see my private message14:48
jribmeLon: output of: « ls -l /etc/init*/dovecot* »14:49
meLonjrib: I'm not too sure where you're going with this, man.  You saw the errors I was getting?  http://pastie.org/803065614:50
jribmeLon: I saw them, yes14:50
xadidas4lifexanyone else on a mac though lol14:51
k1l_!ot | xadidas4lifex14:52
ubottuxadidas4lifex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:52
jribmeLon: pastebin contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/dovecot-managesieved.postrm and output of « apt-cache policy dovecot-core dovecot-managesieved dovecot-mysql dovecot-sieve »14:52
ActionParsnipmeLon: reinstall the package, then remove it14:52
meLonActionParsnip: orly?  :P  That's the problem broseph14:52
ActionParsnipmeLon: if you edit the postrm file, you can make it basic and it may remove for you14:53
meLonjrib: http://pastie.org/8030668 http://pastie.org/8030669 jrib .  ActionParsnip I think jrib is about to help me do just that14:54
jribmeLon: is dovecot running?14:55
meLonIt was, but it's yelling at me that it doesnt know how to talk to mysql ;_;14:55
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jribmeLon: by "it was", you mean you stopped it and it's no longer running?14:55
meLonjrib: I have many dovecot services14:55
michael87wow I never knew how metacity themes worked until I installed it via the gnome tweak tool. wow. ubuntu just made another step up from windows 7 XD lol14:55
meLonRunning, right now (ps aux | grep dovecot)14:56
jribmeLon: do you care if we stop it?14:56
michael87I got transparent windows to work finally too. awsome.14:56
meLonIt's not actually working.  So, that will work14:56
jribmeLon: what happens when you try "sudo invoke-rc.d dovecot stop"?14:56
meLonIt's not working in the capacity in which I need it to work, so turning it off right now doesn't bother me jrib14:56
meLonjrib: I don't have invote-rc.d installed.  pro!14:57
jribmeLon: s/t/k14:57
meLonI mistyped14:57
jribmeLon: you can get past this by commenting lines in these postrm files but it's generally better to understand what's happening first and I don't see why "invoke-rc.d dovecot start" would fail14:57
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meLonI dont have invo*k*e-rc.d :P14:57
jribinteresting14:57
jribmeLon: « ls /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d » gives you an error?14:58
meLon12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11308 Jul 26  2012 /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d14:58
meLonhttp://pastie.org/8030688 jrib14:59
jribmeLon: now start it14:59
michael87does anyone know how to change the color of a metacity theme via dconf?14:59
meLonStarted14:59
Chechhelp cant connect apple wireless keyboard, picks it up and connects to it but cant type ubuntu 13.0414:59
michael87or if you can blur windows on 13.04 after you made them transparent?15:00
Mark_Chech: ubuntu running in a vm environment?15:00
meLonjrib: It's started...15:00
jribmeLon: I saw.  It's probably related to the fact /usr/sbin wasn't in your path :)15:00
jrib*thinking*15:00
Chechno my main os on desktop15:00
jribmeLon: well, have you messed with PATH at all?15:01
meLonNot that I'm aware.15:01
meLonjrib: `sudo su -` `sudo apt-get install -f`15:02
meLonrrr -sudo15:02
meLonbut yeah.  Loging in as root user solved this problem15:02
meLonHow strange15:02
meLon10.04 - 12.04 upgrade sure has been fun15:02
jribmeLon: what's your PATH look like?15:03
jribfor your user15:03
meLonI'm not worried about that right now.  I *really* need this mailserver running15:04
jribmeLon: ok, so you were able to complete the apt-get command now?15:04
meLonYeah  Now I've got to reconfigure dovecot mysql user.  What a pita15:04
meLonI hope the upgrade didnt destroy my db15:05
jribmeLon: don't worry you have backups -_-15:05
noiroUgh, Ubuntu + Teamviewer 8 = bugged as hell15:06
auronandacenoiro: compositing window managers and teamviewer do not get along well15:06
meLon[ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown variable 'default-character-set=utf8' jrib >_<15:07
jribmeLon: this is a very strange upgrade15:07
citricHow come on windows I get about 5 hours battery life on my laptop and in ubuntu I get about 3 ?15:07
noiroJust running gnome-shell. :/ Teamviewer 7 runs fine15:07
meLonsweeet.  They changed it..;. again15:08
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koramatiDear All15:09
koramatiis remastersys  is available for ubuntu 13.0415:09
citricwill I get better battery life out of my laptop if I use 32bit over 64bit ?15:10
auronandacecitric: i doubt it would make any difference15:10
diverdudetop shows mem consumption in% how do i see absolute mem usage per running process ?15:10
citricauronandace, can you help me figure out why I get 2 hours less battery life on ubuntu than I do on windows?15:11
jribdiverdude: press 'f'15:11
auronandacecitric: it can be very hardware dependant15:11
citricauronandace, I figured it would get better than windows :(15:12
auronandacecitric: what graphics drivers are you using?15:12
bgardnerkoramati: See http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/15:12
diverdudejrib, is it shared mem size?15:12
koramatibgardner:thank you15:13
koramatilet me have a look15:13
citricauronandace, whatever was installed for ubuntu, my laptop uses IntelHD3000, it's an i5 processor15:13
jribdiverdude: you probably want res15:13
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auronandacecitric: i've only used nvidia and amd graphics15:14
citricauronandace, im going to re-install ubuntu, maybe that will fix it15:14
auronandacecitric: i sincerely doubt it15:14
auronandacecitric: it's not really something you fix15:15
diverdudejrib, its not showing per process15:15
jribdiverdude: what do you mean?15:15
meLonjrib: Still having some issues.  Let me know if you have a recomendation.  Stepping out for 5m.  BRB http://pastie.org/803073915:16
jribmeLon: strange error since it says the file doesn't have +r permissions and then says the file is 755...  What's this look like: « ls -ld /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb; lsattr -d /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb; getfacl /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb »15:19
minimeccitric: What version of Ubuntu do you use? Do you have a dual GPU in your laptop?15:20
durgahow to change root password in xubuntu 12.1015:20
jinkeladurga: sudo passwd root15:20
jrib!root | durga15:20
ubottudurga: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo15:20
jribdurga: please don't run that command; read ubottu's link15:20
auronandacedurga: there is no root password by default and we don't support setting one15:20
durgathank u15:21
citricminimec, thank you for your response, 13.04 is what I use 64bit, and no, single GPU, Intel HD 300015:21
jribjinkela: please inform people of ubuntu's default setup regarding sudo and root before recommending that.  An easy way to do that is using ubottu as above15:21
durgai am new to xubuntu.. please guide me how to install local  and server mysql15:22
erthadhi, is it a correct channel to ask questions about PPA building?15:23
durgaplease any one....15:23
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ActionPa1sniperthad: #launchpad maybe15:24
erthadActionPa1snip, thx15:24
minimeccitric: ok. You are using a new kernel and new intel drivers. First you can install 'sudo apt-get install powertop'. Then 'sudo powertop' and try to optimize the settings in 'tunables'.15:24
jribdurga: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/mysql.html15:24
ActionPa1snip!lamp | durga15:24
ubottudurga: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.15:24
citricminimec, will do, in the process of a re-install atm.15:24
minimeccitric: A reinstallation wil change nothing15:25
geniierthad: #ubuntu-packaging15:25
erthadgenii, thx too15:25
s_faradayhi all15:26
s_faradayI wanna have gnome 3 desktop in my ubuntu 13.0415:27
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lazarus477I am on ubuntu 12.04. Where are the images located after installing grub2-splashimages ?15:27
auronandaces_faraday: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell15:27
s_faraday and do these commands but still i see unity environment15:27
minimeccitric: Also check if you get some indications of 'poser usage' in 'Overview' when using the battery. Should be something like "The battery reports a discharge rate of 10.37 W" or something like that.15:27
s_faradayauronandace: i did that, but it didn't work!15:28
bgardnerlazarus477: dpkg -L grub2-splashimages15:28
lazarus477Never mind, I found it.15:28
lazarus477bgardner: thanks for the tip :-)15:28
s_faraday sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3  , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get install gnome-shell  , plus installing these packages with synaptic:  gnome, gnome-shell-extensions15:29
auronandaces_faraday: why did you install the ppa?15:29
s_faradayauronandace: still i see unity15:30
auronandaces_faraday: you didn't answer my question15:30
s_faradayauronandace: someone told me to install that, i don't know reason15:31
durgajust now mysql successfully completed... Now How to use this one..... please friends guide me...15:31
auronandaces_faraday: to use another desktop environment you need to log out and select it on the login screen15:31
auronandaces_faraday: ppas are not supported here15:31
auronandaces_faraday: you should use the gnome-shell in the official repos15:31
durgajust now mysql successfully installed... Now How to use this one..... please friends guide me...15:31
citricminimec, ok I will get back to you when ubuntu is finished installed.15:32
s_faradayauronandace: ok, thanks15:32
durgaplease any one.... guide me.... please15:33
auronandace!please | durga15:33
ubottudurga: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude15:33
durgahow to connect mysql server?15:35
antonio_how can i install adobe flash player in chromium?15:36
meLonhttp://pastie.org/private/pqkrzdcyfdsplkdkepvaeg jrib15:37
bgardnerdurga: Working with an RDBMS is a huge topic - try reviewing the MySQL documentation: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/15:37
durgabgardner - Thank you15:38
jribmeLon: ok, so you need to give vmail read permission that I assume?  Or give everyone read?  I'm not familiar with dovecot so I don't know if letting everyone read is an issue15:38
citricwhen selecting the option "Install alongside windows 8" it has a slider for the partitions, but it doesnt tell you which partition is ubuntu or windows...15:39
citricis ubuntu the left side, or the right side? :/15:39
jribcitric: file a bug please15:39
citricjrib, ... the doesn't answer the question. :)15:41
jribcitric: yes, I don't know the answer15:42
jribcitric: but while you wait for someone who knows, you should file a bug to help others15:42
citricis it a bug though? :/15:43
jribcitric: if it's not clear to you, I would say so15:43
ActionPa1snipcitric: I would resize the NTFS in Windows then leave space unpartitioned, much easier15:44
citricActionPa1snip, can that be done within the installer ?15:44
ActionPa1snipcitric: never had to use it. I do know that windows can resize it's own partitions15:44
citricActionPa1snip, googled it, for future reference you can use Gparted within the installer :)15:46
ActionPa1snipcitric: should make it clear where data is going etc15:46
ActionPa1snipcitric: or just plan your partitions, then you don't have to resize15:46
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ravingHello; this may not be the appropriate channel for this, but has anybody used the nut package in netserver mode? I am not sure if it's a weird configuration issue on my end or what, but I am having trouble getting upsd to accept connections on my LAN15:49
EDocToorI need help creating a FQDN for Ubuntu Server Setup.. any hints15:49
Successhey guys. uhm so I did this thing to try to install an nvidia driver but it screwed everything up. kernel 3.80-23 (latest) ubuntu 13.10 (first result on google: ubuntu nvidia graphics)15:50
ravingSuccess: are you using the one in multiverse?15:50
daftykinsEDocToor: i'm guessing you're not familiar with what an FQDN is? :) is it by any chance apache2's error making you think you need one?15:50
Traxie21Hello, I have a problem.  The USB drive that I have installed ubuntu 13.04 to will not boot, with the erorr: unable to mount root device15:51
Traxie21Same as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1611213&page=215:51
Successraving: its nvidia-current, I don't think it is but by the name probably15:52
EDocToordaftykins, your right.. it is my first UBUNTU SERVER SETUP and POSTfix is asking for a FQDN ..but I am created this server for a real online store so it has to be right.. the domain for the store is www.icyourrc.com15:52
ravingSuccess: IIRC that is the proprietary driver. I guess the first question is what you mean by it screwed everything up.15:52
daftykinsEDocToor: ok so it'll be "servername.icyourrc.com"15:53
Successraving: login screen doesn't look like it did before, unity isn't working at all, the window manager is broken on it, dash doesn't show up. gnome is now gnome2 instead of gnome3 somehow (but it works) resolution screwed up15:53
ravingSuccess: weird, I haven't heard of that package requiring a downgrade for gnome15:54
ravingSuccess: do you know if the kernel driver is loaded (or how to check to see if it is?)15:54
Successraving: i just loaded it but haven't rebooted yet15:54
Successthe kernel-header, right?15:54
SuperLagDoes Ubuntu know when you've docked your laptop? is there a way to get a script to run automatically when that happens?15:55
EDocToordaftykins, Thanks... that helps...15:55
ravingSuperLag: it's possible through udev I think15:55
daftykinsEDocToor: np :) fwiw i think you're entering a world of hurt running your own mail in-house :)15:56
ravingI'm not sure whether or not ubuntu supports that out of the box or if it needs some extra configuration on your part though; I've never used a dock15:57
Traxie21If someone has any experience with "Gave up waiting for root device", I could use some help :315:57
EDocToordaftykins, so on my server with "root@edoc:~#" myservername is edoc and my domain in real life is icyourrc.com so it would be edoc.icyourrc.com... is that right?15:57
daftykinsEDocToor: yep. fully qualified domain names are the full routable addresses to a host15:58
EDocToorIt isn't for me.. is for the store... has to be done15:58
daftykinsEDocToor: even more reason :)15:58
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EDocToordaftykins, thanks... I will exclude the mail.. but you have helped me as the FQDN was required by the packages for the store later on15:59
SuperLagEDocToor: I think daftykins is spot on, on that one.16:00
An0nHello all. Anyone know where I can find the 6.10 sparc netboot files?16:00
An0nOr can I get them from the CD ISO?16:00
citricActionPa1snip, you are right about the planing ahead, but I am new to this so I guess I have to make mistakes in order to learn :P16:01
Traxie21Oi, I appear to be the only person online who has ever had this problem without the UUID, but with the device name...16:02
EDocToordaftykins, on a Ubuntu Server Setup - Software selection - Page what would I choose : from the following: edoc.icyourrc.com16:02
EDocToor[*] OpenSSH server (remote access)16:02
EDocToor[*] DNS server (sounds cool)16:02
EDocToor[*] LAMP server (LAMP (Linux Apache MySQL PHP) web server)16:02
EDocToor[*] Mail server (email server)16:02
EDocToor[*] PostgreSQL database (SQL)16:02
FloodBot1EDocToor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:02
EDocToor[*] Print server ()16:02
EDocTooroops16:03
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bgardnerAn0n: See: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/16:07
ActionPa1snipcitric: I like to advise the windows tool, its a familiar look to users plus its the microsoft tool to resize microsoft's file system :)16:08
ActionPa1snipAn0n: 6.10 what?16:08
citricActionPa1snip, well Gparted worked really good. :)16:08
ActionPa1snipcitric: its a great tool. I use it in Linux VMs to expand partitions to newly published space :)16:09
daftykinsEDocToor: you'd only choose whichever services you want to run16:09
An0n@ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 6.10 server for SPARC16:10
bgardnerAn0n: Did you mean Debian 6.10 server for SPARC?16:11
ActionPa1snipAn0n: 6.10 server is EOL16:11
EDocToordaftykins, for the Ubuntu Server .. what is the required services.. I need samba, but what about, openSSH, DNS, LAMP, MAIL, POSTgreSQL, Print, and TOMcat?16:11
geniiAn0n: Should probably have upgraded to the last Sparc version which is 10.0416:11
An0nAt this point any linux I can run on a Sun T2000 server16:12
ActionPa1snipAn0n: Lucid has 2 years support left16:12
daftykinsEDocToor: openssh gives you remote access via SSH, DNS if you want it to be a DNS server, LAMP if you want it to run an Apache web server with mysql database and PHP, the rest are pretty obvious. i recommend you select nothing because you can always add things later.16:12
An0nI will try, just that I found many tutorials using ubuntu 6.1016:13
daftykinsEDocToor: also it's pretty obvious you're doing things without reading the server docs, they're there to help :D16:13
ActionPa1snipAn0n: could always run Gentoo :)16:13
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* bathroom slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout16:13
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geniiAn0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/sparc/pr01.html16:13
* bathroom slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout16:13
* bathroom slaps 13WAAGT5J around a bit with a large trout16:13
* bathroom slaps [0x1a] around a bit with a large trout16:13
* bathroom slaps [1]oo[1]_ around a bit with a large trout16:13
FloodBot1bathroom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:13
An0nActionPa1snip: I may try to once again. Bad experience in the past16:13
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An0nthanks everyone.16:14
EDocToordaftykins, I have read... but it helps to have your input... like for the MAIL as I choose it because it seemed normal for a domain web server for a store to have email support16:15
EDocToordaftykins, but you state that it would be too complicated16:16
EDocToorthat was good advice16:16
EDocToorthankss16:16
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backboxhey wazzup16:17
citricminimec, ok, i have powertop now, and im in tunables16:21
citricminimec, I assume changing bad to good on certain things like wireless power saving, enable sata link power managment16:21
citricauto suspend for usb16:22
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Traxie21Help with booting from the USB drive!!16:28
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: details please16:28
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?16:28
Traxie21I finally seem to have gotten grub to start booting from the INSTALLED (not live) usb drive, and now it boots VERY slow, and just stops after this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752175/16:29
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: what video chip do you use?16:30
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: is it desktop OS or server?16:30
Traxie21Desktop OS, Intel Gallium/Nvidia16:30
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: has it been ok in the past but now having issues or is it a new install?16:30
Traxie21fresh install onto a PNY metal attache 32GB USB drive16:30
Traxie21Ubuntu 13.0416:30
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: tried the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=116:30
Traxie21No, I havent..16:31
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: might be worth a shot16:31
Traxie21I don't think so, I have a HDD install of Ubuntu 13.04, and it detects the intel card fine16:31
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: you will also need bumblebee to support your GPU mess16:31
Traxie21I have a nVidia optimus system16:31
Traxie21I know16:31
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: if you press CTRL+ALT+F2 when you see that screen, do you get a login prompt?16:32
Traxie21Uhh16:32
Traxie21It hardly starts booting16:32
Traxie21Thats the entire /var/logs/boot.log file16:32
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: just because you don't get the pretty login screen doesn't mean it hasn't started enough to start doing things with it16:32
Traxie21Should I reboot and try?16:32
Traxie21It takes about 2 minutes to get to that point16:33
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: its free, why not :)16:33
Traxie21But what do I do once I get a login prompt?16:33
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: try stopping and then restarting the lightdm service16:33
* Traxie21 is tired of rebooting16:33
Traxie21sudo service stop lightdm?16:33
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: or get updates if networking has started16:33
Traxie21kk16:34
Traxie21brb16:34
ActionPa1snipTraxie21: sudo service lightdm stop16:34
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minimeccitric: Yeah. Try to change your settings there. check how that influences the power usage on battery in 'overview'16:38
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minimeccitric: If you are not happy with the results, you can add additional changes as boot option for the kernel. I don't need these changes anymore with an i5 Ivy bridge on 13.04. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks16:43
citricminimec, i run an i5 in this laptop16:44
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A1ReconDoes mozilla thunderbird send the IP Address (of PC from which the mail is being sent) in the IP Address?16:44
HellTigerhello, where can i findout if my kernel supports "loop devices"? its quite hard to google for me. my kernel is: "kernel version 3.0.8+ jackie@ubuntu #68"16:46
minimeccitric: Also set the display brightness to 75% or so maybe, if you can.16:47
citricI have it at bare minimum :/16:48
trismHellTiger: check the config for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y in /boot/16:48
HellTigerok16:48
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HellTigertrism: its a android tablet, i dont have there /boot, a other way is search in "/proc/config.gz" but its also not there.16:51
PITBEASTHello everyone! I'm desperately in need of help.16:52
trismHellTiger: not really on topic here then16:52
HellTigerok16:52
PITBEASTI have a Toshiba Satellite that came with windows 8 pre-installed. I decided to try to dual boot with Ubuntu 13.04. Something went terribly wrong.16:53
PITBEASTBasically, when the install of 13.04 was finished and I restarted the computer I got this error: "Boot Failure:  a proper digital signature was not found. One of the files on the selected boot device was rejected by the Secure Boot Feature".16:54
trismHellTiger: is it using the ubuntu tablet edition or something? there is a #ubuntu-touch room if so16:54
HellTigerit will use soon this version16:55
HellTigerthx16:55
PITBEASTSo I shut it down and accessed the legacy BIOS by holding F2 while starting up and disabled secure boot. This allowed me to access Ubuntu via the Ubuntu Grub Boot Loader.16:56
PITBEASTNow, I can't get into windows at all. I've tried "sudo update-grub" and I've read a few guides but I'm really out of my depth here.16:56
PITBEASTAny help would be greatly appreciated.16:58
HellTigerPITBEAST: maybe you didnt read http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/165348-how-can-i-recover-my-lost-windows-7-partition-after-installing-ubuntu.html16:58
HellTigerand http://askubuntu.com/questions/133725/cant-boot-windows-7-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04-lts16:58
PITBEASTHellTiger: In boot-repair, under other options, I can't click the radio button for "Repair Windows boot files". Any ideas?17:01
wilee-nileePITBEAST, You might try posting a thread at the ubuntu forums, the best help on UEFI is there, run the bootinfo summary in the bootrepair app and post it's url in the thread.17:01
PITBEASTThanks wilee-nilee. I'll try that.17:01
PITBEASTIf I could get into Windows and just delete Ubuntu and do it over again (properly), I'd be happy with that.17:02
wilee-nileePITBEAST, Do you have windows backed up?17:02
PITBEASTwilee-nilee I don't want to answer that question... :/ I went into this thinking "I've installed ubuntu plenty of times" not knowing the issues with UEFI, etc.17:03
MonkeyDustPITBEAST  uefi is a pain17:04
PITBEASTwilee-nilee so the answer is no...i didn't back up windows17:04
wilee-nileePITBEAST, I figured that.17:04
citrichow can you check version number of drivers?17:05
PITBEASTwould you guys mind if I posted the boot info summary here to see if anyone knows what's up?17:05
deadweaselpost it to pastebin17:07
deadweaseland then post pastebin URL17:07
PITBEASTuh... it's a paste.ubuntu.com link17:07
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driiperGood evening :) I have a question regarding  "CLI shortcuts" in ubuntu.  I just installed eclipse from the repo but sadly this was a old version. i then removed it and installed from eclipse homepage. but now when im trying to run "eclipse" in cli i get erros. so i was wondering if anyone know how i can change the "eclipse" command so it goes to the right path.17:08
paddyhello. how can i find out why http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/packagesearch is not in the ubuntu package archive?17:09
deadweaselPITBEAST: i think that will work fine17:09
A1Reconhow to strip away the metadata/creator's name from a xls file while creating the file in Libreoffice Calc. Please help!! It's urgent!17:09
PITBEASThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5752284/17:09
nibblerdriiper: just call it by its full name.... /home/foo/development/eclipse/eclipse - or uninstall the other version (apt-get remove ?)17:09
driipernibbler: is there any way to also change it so i could call "eclipse" on the new version ? :)17:10
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nibblerdriiper: so many ways i would not know where to start. best would be to remove the wrong one17:10
driipernibbler: okay :) thanks!17:11
utusanA1Recon: change it in tools/options/user/data17:12
wilee-nileepaddy, I see that app in my 13.04 synaptic.17:12
wilee-nileenot sure what it's use is, it is not installed.17:13
aidhi all17:13
paddywilee-nilee, ah, thanks17:13
paddyon 12.04 it is missing17:13
paddyits a package information and search tool17:13
A1Reconutusan: Thanks it helped! But is there any other way to know if the file was created by a specific user?17:14
aidcould you please help me? i cannot ping any ip address through "ping" in terminal?17:19
utusanA1Recon: these are usually seen from doc properties?17:20
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A1Reconutusan: Yeah in  the properties.. I know!! But this is quite a sensitive document so I was wondering...17:21
enigmuriatic1is there any way to increase the number of lines visible in the terminal when i scroll up?17:27
HellTigerenigmuriatic1: run first the app called screen17:28
coreyowould someone be kind enough to tell me the latest mainstream kernel version in 13.04?     'cat /proc/version'17:28
dhcihow can I update my keyboard mapping in xwindows? it seems to have changed back to qwerty after moving from a plain usb wired keyboard, to a logitech wireless (usb receiver.)17:28
HellTigerin it you can scroll up17:28
HellTigerbut read man page how to reach puffer via shortcut17:28
utusanenigmuriatic1: maximize the window?17:28
MonkeyDustcoreyo  uname -r => Linux ubuntu-laptop 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:22:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:28
coreyoMonkeyDust, thank you very much17:29
MonkeyDustthat's uname -a ^^^^^17:29
utusancoreyo: that's the version of your running kernel17:29
utusancoreyo: do apt-get update then apt-cache policy linux-image-generic17:30
dhciI'm on 12.04 precise -- in /etc/default/keyboard what does the XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch" correspond to? right alt and what to do a keyboard mapping switch?17:30
dhcii'm thinking I just have to live with qwerty for a bit, perhaps the usb receiver injects the character code as directly as it can17:32
coreyoutusan, I'm running linux mint, I just have to do a manual kernel update.  Wanted to get a similar version from the PPA17:32
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bindiI have let other people control my computer in vino-preferences, but VNC viewer says "cant connect", the machine is in my LAN and I'm SSH'd into it17:34
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utusancoreyo: ok..but 3.8 is already EOL17:37
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SonikkuAmericautusan: What 3.8?17:37
coreyoutusan, EOL?17:37
SonikkuAmericautusan: If you're talking GNOME, GNOME 3.8 just got here.17:38
utusankernel 3.8 is no longer maintained - end of life17:38
SonikkuAmericautusan: Since...?17:39
coreyowill 13.04 be staying with 3.8, or moving to another version?17:39
SonikkuAmericautusan: Ubuntu still uses that kernel...17:39
SonikkuAmericacoreyo: Probably up to 3.9...?17:39
coreyohttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/17:40
bindihow can i make sure vino is running?17:40
bgardnerbindi: At a terminal: ps aux | grep vino17:40
coreyo3.5 still produces kernel panics with certain usb3.0 hubs.  I'm trying to do a manual upgrade for now, but was trying to decide on the best choice.17:40
bindibgardner: well it aint running in that cas17:40
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utusancoreyo: SonikkuAmerica https://www.kernel.org/17:43
ghufran_hi, i have a basic problem with 13.04. i can't update the speed of the trackpad. whenever i update it from the Mouse and Trackpad settings and close it, the changes don't take effect and when i open it again, they're at the previous settings .. any help would be much appreciated17:43
SonikkuAmericautusan: Eek. Time to migrate to linux-3.9 if you ask me17:43
coreyoutusan, yeah, no desire to manually compile except as a last resort17:44
bgardnerbindi: Have you tried either checking syslog for vino messages or starting the vino-server process from the terminal to check the output?17:44
DYSWor use another distro if you need latest kernel in a easier way17:45
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utusan^^ don't have to..get latest kernel from kernel_mainline17:46
utusanhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/17:46
coreyoutusan, right, I pasted that a little ways back in the history17:47
AppuIsn't the newer versions of ubuntu laggy?17:47
coreyoutusan, but might be best to stay with 3.8.13 to ensure compatibillity with the repo17:47
DYSWutusan: arch uses the newest kernel 99% of the times, updated the same day17:47
rootedis ubuntu debain-based ?17:47
geniirooted: Yes17:48
utusanAppu: no..it's racy  :)17:48
DYSWrooted: yes17:48
AppuNewer versions seems more like a toy. It's almost useless without a highspeed unlimited network connection17:48
coreyorooted, the packages are separately maintained, but the general guts and package system are the same17:49
mh_lewhich user does minidlna run as?17:50
rootedif i download a .tar.gz , how i build the app inside it after the extract ?17:51
rootedgem ? or git ?17:51
utusanDYSW: I get the newest as well..17:51
ZappierchrisCan I get help for ubuntu here17:51
utusanrooted: it depends17:52
SonikkuAmericaZappierchris: Of course! Also (believe me, it's asked a lot) you can get it for free!@17:52
DYSWutusan: really, i havnt found a repo for that to ubuntu yet. is there one or are you doing it manually ?17:52
utusanrooted: like firefox, just extract and run firefox17:52
ZappierchrisOkay, well, I have an old desktop PC, with XP on it and it was very slow, so I tried Ubuntu, I set it as default for some reason, but it bugged up, and on boot it shows some error about Grub17:52
Zappierchrisbut I can't choose windows because it doesn't load the keyboard at boot ._.#17:53
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utusanDYSW: like I said you can get it from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/17:53
DYSWZappierchris: try a live cd and get access to the grub files and change them. If no grub options shows up i would try that or a ubuntu repair option if there is one17:54
ZappierchrisI wouldn't be able to select it17:54
wilee-nileeZappierchris, Has Ubuntu booted at all?17:54
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SonikkuAmericautusan: Not that you had to worry about the EOL of 3.8... the Ubuntu kernel team is supporting linux-3.8 until 1/1417:54
ZappierchrisI don't think so17:55
DYSWutusan: i know. But it doenst upgrade with apt-get upgrade17:55
wilee-nilee! nick | Zappierchris17:55
ubottuZappierchris: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.17:55
AppuZappierchris, What do you see on the screen when system boots. Any text.17:55
ZappierchrisLast time I tried it was the OS selection screen, I'd need to go boot the PC to go chec17:55
Zappierchrischeck*17:55
Zappierchrisone sec17:55
wilee-nileeZappierchris, Sorry use the nick of who you are answering, the tab key will auto fill the nck17:55
utusanSonikkuAmerica: I'm not worried..:)17:56
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coreyowhat is contained in the linux-image-extra package?  It seems to be missing in all of the mainline PPA's after 3.8.8.17:58
wilee-nileecoreyo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/153023/what-is-the-linux-image-extra-package-for-and-do-i-need-it18:00
chaudharyHi, I once set proxy for apt-get in /etc/apt/apt.conf and now I enptied the file to use without proxy, but it still connects using proxy. I tried rebooting the system after change. What should I do?18:02
DJHenjinI am trying to set up RSA Key authentication on my ubuntu 12.04 server, however every time I try to connect using putty, I get 'server refused our key' I have been googling for over an hour, tried many things including movind the authorized keys file outside of /home to no avail18:02
chaudharys/enptied/emptied18:02
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zissouhiall! so how to check where is a program installed18:05
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bgardnerzissou: Try: dpkg -L appname18:06
coreyothank  you wilee-nilee18:06
zissoubgardner, tnx18:07
Zappierchrisis there a way to hide the join/leave messages18:07
MonkeyDustZappierchris  depends on your client18:07
ZappierchrisMonkeyDust: I'm using webchat18:07
MonkeyDustZappierchris  don't find how to do it with webchat18:11
MonkeyDustZappierchris  consider using a client https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#IRC_Clients18:12
DJHenjincan someone help me with my publickey login issues please?18:13
bgardnerDJHenjin: What messages do you have from the server (as opposed to PuTTY's messages)?18:14
DJHenjinbgardner one sec ill pastebin18:14
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ChogyDanI'm new to 64 bits, and I'm wondering why installing wine takes up so much space (150mb download, 500mb installed)   I'm guessing it has to do with all the 32bits things it is getting?18:16
DJHenjinbgardner here is what i get when i run sshd with the -d switch http://pastebin.com/8RDi1q8K18:19
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singh_abhinavhow to find AMD gpu temp in ubuntu 13.0418:22
bgardnerDJHenjin: And is the path indicated for authorized_keys (/etc/ssh/publicSSHkeys/authorized_keys) where you have the key you are trying to use?18:22
DJHenjinbgardner: Yes it is in that file.18:22
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bgardnerDJHenjin: What is the output of 'file /etc/ssh/publicSSHkeys/authorized_keys' ?18:23
ghufran_hi, i have a basic problem with 13.04. i can't update the speed of the trackpad. whenever i update it from the Mouse and Trackpad settings and close it, the changes don't take effect and when i open it again, they're at the previous settings .. any help would be much appreciated18:23
servvsI am unable to login to any TTY terminals since I upgraded to 13.0418:23
DJHenjinbgardner 'OpenSSH RSA public key'18:24
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arooni-mobileinstalled my-weather-indicator on ubuntu 13.04; now it wont run as an indiciator;  do i need to restart my ocmputer first?18:26
sereghufran_:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/42867/modifying-mouse-touchpad-sensitivity18:27
MonkeyDustarooni-mobile  restart to find out18:27
trismarooni-mobile: if it is an appindicator, you may have to run some program to show it18:28
trismarooni-mobile: if not you just need to log out/back in18:28
arooni-mobilealso; not sure if anyone is using calendar-indicator; but the show calendar optoin doesnt yield a calendar;18:28
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chaudharyCan somebody please help me with the apt-get issue mentioned above?18:30
servvsI am unable to login to any TTY terminals since I upgraded to 13.04, is this a common issue and is there any way to fix it?18:30
MonkeyDustchaudhary  repeat it in oe line, so we can easily read it18:30
MonkeyDustone*18:30
chaudharyHi, I once set the proxy for apt-get in /etc/apt/apt.conf and now I emptied the file to use without proxy, but it still connects using proxy.18:33
chaudharyI tried rebooting the system after change. What should I do?18:33
singh_abhinavhow much CPU temp is okay for a laptop with normal browsing :)18:34
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lampsBRHi guys, I'm running tomcat 7.0.26.0 installed from apt-get in a ubuntu 12.04 64bit system, with oracle jdk version 1.7.0.21.b11. I want to know where is the correct place to set the parameter "-Djava.awt.headless=true". This parameter may help me to solve a problem...18:39
seresingh_abhinav:  it depends on the labtop.. they are different.. look at the specs and that should tell you the operation temps18:40
chaudharyNevermind just found out, 2 things: unset $http_proxy and use DIRECT in apt.conf :)18:41
singh_abhinavokay sere ..my laptop temp is between 55-60 with normal browsing18:41
Sub-Zero_60C should be OK for laptop18:42
seresingh_abhinav: 60c is ok .. im in the 50s but my max operation temp is like 90-100 i think18:43
Walexsingh_abhinav: browsing can be quite CPU intensive, especially if you have flash and JavaScript enabled18:43
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Walexsingh_abhinav: my laptop when mostly quiest has CPU and motherboard temperatures around 50C.18:44
singh_abhinavWalex:  yeah i understand that :)18:45
b1n4ry_Hi, I just came across the concept of fstab. How would one set up fstab ? From what I read about fstab was all the partitions listed under it aare automatically mounted. I am confused.18:45
Walexb1n4ry_: no, not all automatically. Only those not marked 'noauto'18:45
Sub-Zero_to reduce CPU temp open the laptop clean heatsink and apply the best thermal past you can get. It does reduce CPU temp.18:46
sereb1n4ry_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab18:46
clctoauto is defualt though18:46
b1n4ry_Walex, So would exactly would setting up fstab mean?18:46
clctob1n4ry_: man fstab18:46
singh_abhinavWalex:  sere  i have one problem . I have onboard and discrete graphics card, I have disabled discrete graphics card but it still my fan is running like any thing ...how should i fix that .. i am using ubuntu 13.0418:46
Walexb1n4ry_: basically 'fstab' is a set of defaults for the 'mount' command, plus optionally to actually run the 'mount' command.18:47
arooni-mobileis there a shortcut when in the windowed mode; like the scale plugin; that i can close a window?18:47
Walexsingh_abhinav: that's a long exploration to do. You have to figure out what is keeping the CPU running, because it is usually the CPU.18:47
Walexsingh_abhinav: check first with 'top'18:47
Walexarooni-mobile: 'ALT-F4'?18:48
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clctoWalex: as well as optionally backup and check the partition18:48
arooni-mobileWalex, yup that worked hthere thanks18:48
singh_abhinavWalex:  my CPU uses is around 2% only18:48
Walexsingh_abhinav: there is also 'powertop' but it is almost useless.18:48
b1n4ry_Walex, So you can edit fstab for various partitions but how exactly would you "set-up" fstab? My friend told me to set up fstab and I do not understand what exactly would that mean?18:48
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clctob1n4ry_: you edit /etc/fstab18:49
Walexsingh_abhinav: sometimes there is no proper driver for the laptop fan and it defaults to spin all the time.18:49
singh_abhinavWalex:  oh okay18:49
b1n4ry_clcto, Is that exaclty setting up fstab?18:49
Walexclcto: the backup and check partition columns are nearly obsolete...18:49
b1n4ry_*exactly18:49
seresingh_abhinav:  you can use conky to monitor temps,top cpu/memory but it takes alittle bit of work to set up18:50
BluesKaj!fstab | b1n4ry_18:50
ubottub1n4ry_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions18:50
mbeierlb1n4ry_, fstab is the file system table.  It lists what file systems and what their mount points are for your computer.18:50
kristenbbwhat would be the easiest way to encrypt a file so that it can be easily decrypted on windows with a password?18:51
clctob1n4ry_: yes. basically all setting relating to the kernel and *nix utils just use files as settings18:51
Walexsingh_abhinav: but not necessarily your case. Check by doing a search online.18:51
mbeierlb1n4ry_, you don't need to "set it up" beyond what the installer does normally.18:51
clctokristenbb: prolly truecrypt18:51
Walexsingh_abhinav: but not necessarily your case. Check by doing a search online. With your laptop model as one of the keywords18:51
kristenbbclcto: isn't that drive encryption ?18:52
singh_abhinavi have sony vaio ..i have found some thing called vaiofand Walex18:52
clctokristenbb: doesnt have to be18:52
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kristenbbclcto: so can you please guide me through the process of encrypting it ?18:52
seresingh_abhinav: http://snag.gy/v6SOF.jpg : example of conky..18:53
Walexsingh_abhinav: that seems named appropriately. Look also at 'fancontrol' perhaps.18:53
clctohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt18:53
clctokristenbb: often google is your friend18:53
Walexclcto: but Google is a rather nosy friend...18:54
Walexclcto: but Google is a rather nosy friend... :-)18:54
clctoWalex: then use ddg18:54
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singh_abhinavsere: that link is not having any image :)18:55
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Walexb1n4ry_: I have a somewhat elaborate 'fstab', and it might look like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752599/18:57
b1n4ry_Walex, Thanks :)18:58
seresingh_abhinav: its not saving my screenshot for some reason :/19:00
m4jidHi19:01
bgardnerm4jid: Hello19:05
mehdi_I updated /etc/security/limits.conf such that my FD for user "primeuser" is 4k (soft) and 10k (hard) however when I issue the command "ulimit -Hn" and "ulimit -Sn",  I see 1024 and 4096. What gives?19:06
m4jidi just installed xubuntu(already asked on xubuntu channel) i have gforce gt 43019:07
m4jidand proprietry drive19:07
m4jidi have dual display i have in correct resolution!19:07
alix_is it safe to disable bind9 service?19:07
seresingh_abhinav: http://pbrd.co/13y5lQs19:07
m4jidHow can i install the driver that i downloaded from nvidia website from xfce it tells i have to quit x enviroment19:08
m4jidso how can i install video driver ?19:08
serem4jid: why do you need the drivers from nvidias site?19:09
m4jidi told you because with proprietary driver i have in correct resolution19:09
m4jidreboot , brb19:10
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[diablo]Good evening #ubuntu …  I've installed 3 times now Ubuntu 13.04 from a USB stick… all good, except GRUB2 fails to boot every time..19:13
[diablo]I get read error19:13
trismmehdi_: worked here, did you log in again after making changes?19:13
singh_abhinavsere:  do you have GPU?19:14
TheUsDAny known issues with a windows machine teamviewering into a ubuntu machine?19:14
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seresingh_abhinav: not on this machine but you can easily add it, if you have it19:14
[diablo]He's got 'sda' which is a 32GB SSD (Windows 7), a 'sdb' which is a 1TB NTFS data drive finally 'sde' which is a 250GB SATA where we want to install Ubuntu… I tried putting grub on sea, no booting (and booting from sda first)19:15
singh_abhinavbut i think there is no way to see GPU temp if we are using open source driver19:15
[diablo]I tried installing grub on sde and booting from it, same error19:15
chadmandooHey all.  I have a question regarding the best way to implement a mail server.  I have some website I am hosting ona  self managed server but I understand the issue with spam.  I am wanting to possibly redirect my mail to a known server for relay.  What is the best way of doing this?  I have looked into using postfix + gmail19:16
[diablo]mobo is a GA-Z68AP-D319:16
seresingh_abhinav: you can pretty much output anything to conky19:16
MonkeyDustchadmandoo  #ubuntu-server19:16
seresingh_abhinav: are you using nvidia?19:16
mehdi_trism: I'm in a screen session, I wonder if that's the reason19:16
daftykins[diablo]: are the SATA devices straddling different SATA controllers?19:16
singh_abhinavno its amd radeon sere19:17
[diablo]evening daftykins nope, all direct to mobo19:17
daftykins[diablo]: sure but are they all using the intel controller ports? there's no secondary controller onboard?19:17
kristenbbwhat would be the easiest way to encrypt a file so that it can be easily decrypted on windows with a password?19:18
[diablo]daftykins, let me check19:18
TheUsDAny known issues with a windows machine teamviewering into a ubuntu machine?19:18
[diablo]daftykins, just check the mobo manual19:18
daftykins[diablo]: ok just looked up the board spec, looks like there's no third party controller. just 6 chipset provided SATA ports, 2 x 6Gb and 4 x 3Gb naturally19:18
disputin anyone know how to break raid10?19:19
daftykins[diablo]: is Windows7 installed in EFI mode? does ubuntu 13.04 on the flash drive boot in EFI mode?19:19
daftykinsdisputin: why would you want to?19:19
seresingh_abhinav: i believe if you have aticonfig it should work.. here is an example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156612619:19
disputinI need to do an os upgrade and I'd like to fail out 2 disks as a backup if needed19:19
geniikristenbb: Probably zip with the -e switch19:19
[diablo]daftykins, I made the flash drive in Mac OSX19:19
kristenbbgenii: and then on windows?19:20
[diablo]daftykins, and no idea about the Windows 7 if its EFI or not19:20
daftykins!efi19:20
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI19:20
daftykins[diablo]: have a look at the above link and see where it shows you if the flash drive is booting in EFI or legacy mode.19:20
[diablo]yup19:20
geniikristenbb: When you went to unzip, it would prompt you for the password usually ( in winzip or whatever unzipper)19:20
[diablo]cheers daftykins many thanks19:21
daftykins[diablo]: no problemo, i'd also be curious what sdc and sdd are :D19:21
disputinfor raid 1 it's easy, fail a drive do the upgrade and readd the drive19:21
kristenbbgenii: and what kind of encryption does -e use ?19:22
disputinbut for raid 10, which drives do I fail out?19:22
geniikristenbb: No idea.19:22
DrFoohow do I have a script execute when I log into gnome?19:24
daftykinsdisputin: are you saying you want to upgrade your OS only on 50% of the RAID 10 array so you can revert if necessary?19:25
daftykinskristenbb: nice to see you back. i'm beginning to think you deal with super secret data? ;)19:25
kristenbbdaftykins: not so much just trying to send a file to a friend that is too big for an email19:26
kristenbbdaftykins: nice to see you too19:26
daftykinskristenbb: online hosting choices not an option? or one of you creating a user account/FTP server and sharing the file?19:27
aumhi - just installed 12.04LTS, can't get Unity running, only Unity 2D, my box has Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller, and I do have xserver-xorg-intel installed. What am I missing? How can I troubleshoot this?19:27
daftykinsaum: that hardware sounds way too ancient to get Unity 3D running i'm afraid.19:27
kristenbbdaftykins: well yes I think i'm going for an online hosting choice, but if I do so I'd like it not to be accessible to everyone else, hence the encryption19:28
daftykinskristenbb: makes sense. if you hosted FTP locally though you wouldn't have to trust a 3rd party - depends if the level of setup (installing, configuring a user, forwarding ports on your router) is too much effort19:29
kristenbbmy computer is not always on19:30
daftykins[diablo]: oh just another thought, make sure you're not installing from USB3 too, yeah?19:30
geniikristenbb: Maybe use pgp/gpg19:30
[diablo]daftykins, the usb3 issue is what exactly?19:30
kristenbbgenii: that requires prior setting, with exchange of keys, right?19:30
daftykins[diablo]: always best to install any OS from USB2 ports really19:31
[diablo]ok19:31
kristenbbI think i'm just gonna go with zip -e it's good enough for my purpose19:31
geniikristenbb: You don't have to exchange private keys for pgp to work.19:31
kristenbbpublic ones19:31
disputindaftykins19:33
disputinyes as a fallback19:33
disputinthe server's about 30 miles away and I'm doing the upgrade over a IPMI daughter card19:34
daftykinsdisputin: sounds like an absolutely terrible idea :D what are you upgrading from and to?19:34
[diablo]daftykins, I'd say nothing is EFI...19:35
^MikeWhat does ??????? mean in ls output? http://p.hashbang.ca/eo19:35
disputindaftykins: from debian squeeze to ubuntu precise server19:36
daftykinsdisputin: sounds more like a reinstall than 'upgrade'19:36
hex``is there a way to recover what I jsut rm -rf'ed?19:36
jrib!undelete | hex``19:36
ubottuhex``: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel19:36
disputindaftykins migrating from openvz to lxc19:37
disputindaftykins: if you like19:37
pozorihow can I see the Apple keynote here https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2013/19:38
daftykinsdisputin: is the RAID provided by software or a hardware controller? sounds risky to me19:38
pozoriwhat plugin I need?19:38
disputindisputin: linux software raid, everything is backed up19:38
daftykinspozori: it's just going to give a recording afterwards, it's not a live feed. the page says quicktime video.19:39
disputindaftykins: thanks, anyway19:39
mayhewHey guys. I noticed Ubuntu 12.04 packages python-django v1.3.X. It no longer gets security updates upstream. Does Ubuntu still backport security fixes for it?19:40
daftykinsdisputin: np, good luck with it19:40
pozoridaftykins: I can't watch any of those apple event videos19:40
aumdaftykins, what do you mean, too ancient?!? It runs Doom just fine! :P19:40
daftykinspozori: i clicked the 'Mac Pro' one and it's not a video. what browser are you using?19:40
daftykinsaum: ;) i hear ya. i think you're going to have to stick to something like xubuntu if you want to run 13.0419:41
pozoridaftykins: there should be a video right there on the page.19:41
Zeph88Hello, can anyone please point me in the direction to a tutorial on how to properly setup ftp users for a web environment. What I mean is I don't need users with the ability to do anything but log into FTP, and I only want them to be able to access a directory (and it's children). I tried vsftpd, but it doesn't seem right for this project.19:41
daftykinspozori: no, it says 'Available shortly. Please check back soon.' to me19:42
aumdaftykins, it runs 12.04LTS just fine with Unity 2D. Ubuntu 13 won't run on it at all, not even Unity 2D19:42
tarciubuntu.it19:42
pozoriit says nothing to me, just blank white space19:42
pozorifirefox19:42
daftykinspozori: must be something up with your browser/plugins19:42
pozorino shit?19:42
pozorithat's what I was asking about19:42
daftykinspozori: well why are you asking then? :D19:42
pozoribecause I don't know what's missing like I said19:43
daftykinsi've got flash on in Windows and i see the message19:43
daftykinsmaybe try chromium for fun?19:43
pozoritried19:43
pozoriand that's quicktime video19:43
pozorisorry but you are completely useless daftykins19:43
daftykinspozori: i don't know, i told you there isn't a video there... also i've nothing quicktime installed and i can read the message - so there's that19:44
TheUsDanyone know the iis7 channel?19:44
daftykinstry the windows one maybe?19:44
tgm4883daftykins, do you have medibuntu?19:45
daftykinstgm4883: no, why?19:45
tgm4883daftykins, pozori http://askubuntu.com/questions/1695/watch-quicktime-videos-in-the-browser19:45
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tgm4883daftykins, I'm guessing ubuntu-restricted-extras installed then19:46
daftykinspozori: ah ok the website lies to me - it does have a live feed but only when the quicktime equivalent is installed19:46
daftykinstgm4883: good man - that's your answer pozori19:46
daftykinspozori: thanks for being so polite anyways19:47
bray90820Why is ubuntu not seeing my external raid box19:47
daftykinsbray90820: how's it connected?19:47
bray90820esata19:48
daftykinsopened a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l' ?19:48
daftykinsto see if it lists it?19:48
kristenbbIn compiz manager, in order to remove the icons of the mounted drives, I  used to go to ccsm -> Unity plugin → Experimental Tab -> Show  Devices = Never.  Now it has apparently disappeared. What is the new way to achieve this ?19:49
bray90820daftykins: it does see it19:51
daftykinsbray90820: sounds like you just need to mount the filesystem then perhaps?19:52
bray90820if it means anything it says "does not start on a physical sector boundary"19:52
daftykinsbray90820: nah that's no biggy.19:52
bray90820I tried mounting it with "sudo mount" but it said it wasn't found19:53
daftykinsbray90820: could you use pastebin to paste the output from the fdisk command?19:53
aperturesup sup19:53
daftykinsbray90820: and are you familiar with mounting via command line?19:53
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bray90820"sudo mount" is what i used and i will paste bin it19:54
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bray90820Here is the pastebin19:58
bray90820http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aC1aTJdb19:58
bray90820oh and i am using a live disk if it means anything19:58
DrFooI can't mount a filesystem using a credentials file in 12.0419:59
serebray90820: i think you have to specify what kind of device you are trying to mount19:59
bray90820daftykins: just pining you to make sure you got my above messages19:59
daftykinsbray90820: oh sorry, just seen now19:59
bray90820I am trying to mount a 4TB hardware raid19:59
DrFoosere: I usually give:19:59
DrFoosudo mount -t cifs -o username=foo,passwd=bar //sever/share /mnt/20:00
DrFoothis always works.20:00
aumdaftykins the problem with the other *buntus - xubuntu and lubuntu - is they can't do proper bluetooth20:00
daftykinsbray90820: i'm not seeing a 4TB device20:00
DrFoosere: Unless my syntax is wrong20:00
bray90820It's a raid 0 made with 2 disks20:00
daftykinsbray90820: is it sda and sdc possibly?20:01
bray90820there is also a fakeraid made with windows20:01
bray90820it's esata20:01
daftykinsbray90820: which device in the fdisk output do you think is your eSATA one though?20:01
aumdoes anyone know why most of the items in gnome control centre are disabled when running from openbox or other desktop environments?20:01
sereDrFoo: sever/share? typo?20:01
daftykinssere: he meant //server/share ;)20:02
DrFoosere: well yes, I meant "server"/share    server is my smb server and share is the file share20:02
Skymontso with Ubuntu Touch, will Ubuntu have remote access to your device just like how Google Android has remote access with "emergency purposes" with Google Services?20:02
seredaftykins: oh ok :)20:02
daftykins!touch | Skymont20:03
ubottuSkymont: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch20:03
DrFoosere: do you mount smb/cifs file systems?20:03
Re-Lhi20:04
sereDrFoo: i have before yes, but its been awhile20:04
daftykinsbray90820: sorry i've got to head off and get some food now. i would recommend you boot without this eSATA device connected, run 'sudo fdisk -l' again, then connect it and see how it changes to identify which devices they are. i have no clue looking at that output20:04
bray90820daftykins: /dev/sda120:04
sereDrFoo: im trying to see what i can find for you20:04
DrFoosere: this seems like a big bug, if it is, in fact, a bug20:04
bray90820that's what i think my esata drive is20:04
Re-Lis there a python developers?20:04
DrFoosere: thanks20:04
DrFoosere: I could just be doing it wrong too... there's lots of wrong info on the web20:05
xanguaRe-L: probably on a python channel ;)20:05
bray90820daftykins: so should i boot without the raid plugged in and re pastebin the output20:06
daftykinsbray90820: yeah, i've gotta go now though - you might have to wait for someone else to help, sorry20:06
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nimbioticsRe-L, just type "/join #python"20:06
bray90820Alright20:06
bray90820Can anyone else help me?20:06
bray90820So can anyone else help me with my raid20:09
sereDrFoo: whats the output when you try to connect?20:11
DrFoosere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752806/20:16
sereDrFoo: i pulled this from the web, its worth a shot: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=foo,passwd=bar //sever/share /mnt/]20:16
DrFoosere: That's what I've been doing since the credential files don't work20:17
sereDrFoo: no this :) sudo mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt -o username=foo,passwd=bar20:17
DrFoothey both work, but you don't want to put your password in a script20:17
DrFooso you should call the credentials from a credentials file20:17
DrFools20:18
sereDrFoo: //myserver_ip_address/myshare  /media/samba_share  cifs  noauto,credentials=/etc/samba/user,noexec  0 020:18
sereDrFoo: like that ?20:18
DrFoothat has some extra options, but I'll try it.20:19
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DrFoosere: nope. I think that's for fstab20:20
sereDrFoo: yea that is for fstab20:20
bray90820Yea so apparently fdisk doesn't even show that my raid is plugged in20:21
sereDrFoo: it looks ok to me but its been awhile i could be missing something..i dont dunno20:23
sparrI want to prevent a user from changing their password in any way, but I want to allow them to install new software. What do I need to do to their sudo rights?20:23
DrFoosere: ok. thxc20:23
DrFooThanks20:23
WillHey all :)20:23
sereDrFoo: np i wish i could help more20:23
clctoyou dont need sudo to change your password ...20:23
WillI've just gone and made a virtualBox ubuntu server, have it up and running and type my IP in the web browser from a different node and it displays the Works!   -   my question is, what is a reccomended user panel for a simple web server, is Zpanel good, opinions?20:25
clctobut sparr: do a little reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113282120:26
OMGPRODHi20:26
sparrclcto: I'm interested in allowing GUI administrative tasks as well, so the commands to put into sudoers are not straightforward20:27
mayhewWill: the recommended user panel is SSH ;)20:27
Willmayhew: haha of course, but I need a userpanel as a testing enviroment for setting up a user friendly system :)20:28
sereDrFoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide i dunno if you have been here or not20:29
mayhewWill: don't quote me on it, but I heard webmin is decent20:29
DJones!webmin | mayhew Will Just for info,20:29
ubottumayhew Will Just for info,: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.20:30
mayhewahh nevermind haha20:30
WillThink i will go for Zpanel then haha20:30
Willnot too worry20:30
WillAlso, if i have part installed a auto installing script from a zpanel source.zip containing .sh scripts is there a way to undo this so i can start again, wasnt sure if there was a way to remove something from the system20:32
Willdidnt want to spend the next 20mins reinstalling it, not that its a great problem. But is there a command to list what is installed or a way to undo an installation(s)20:33
Knecht_Ruprechthi20:33
schoppenhauerhello. is it possible to install the extlinux-binaries without the package trying to manipulate my grub bootloader?20:34
Z3RG!list20:34
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schoppenhauerI want extlinux for external usb-sticks.20:34
sereDrFoo: is your credentials file owned by root.. i know its in ~ but from what im reading it should be20:35
sparrerr20:35
sparrI am supposed to be installing Ubuntu 13.04 and the installer says "Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"20:35
mayhewWill: if you use the normal Ubuntu tools for installing packages like apt and dpkg, you can view what's installed20:35
samgabbayHello Samgabbay here to assist :)20:35
torrenzahey guys i know this is the wrong channel, but I've got some questions on patent law that i really need help figuring out. anybody?20:35
DJones!ot | torrenza You may get some help in the Ubuntu offtopic channel,20:36
ubottutorrenza You may get some help in the Ubuntu offtopic channel,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:36
Z3RGПривет, есть кто на киррилице?20:36
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torrenzathanks20:36
DrFoosere: I own the cred file20:36
SonikkuAmerica!ru | Z3RG20:37
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kristenbbIn compiz manager, in order to remove the icons of the mounted drives, I  used to go to ccsm -> Unity plugin → Experimental Tab -> Show  Devices = Never.  Now it has apparently disappeared. What is the new way to achieve this ?20:37
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: 13.04?20:37
kristenbbyes20:38
DJonessparr: Are you certain that you downloaded 13.04? It sounds like you may have selected the LTS version (12.04) rather than the latest release (13.04)20:38
sparrDJones: yes, it does sound like that20:38
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: System Settings > Appearance > Behavio(u)r tab, and there's a check box20:38
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Oh no wait... that's for workspaces... *facepalm*20:38
kristenbb:/20:38
DJonessparr: If you've still got the iso, check the name or the md5 sum to verify which one you have20:38
Willmayhew, i've got ubuntu server 13.04 installed - what are the normal ways to see whats installed?20:38
Z3RGi need help... I need registered20:39
mayhewWill: dpkg -l | grep 'apache' (would show all packages installed with apache in the name)20:39
Z3RGhelp me... push command for this20:39
DJonesZ3RG: Help to register your nick?20:40
Z3RGyes20:40
sereDrFoo: you can add --verbose before -o and it might give you alittle more info20:40
DJones!register | Z3RG20:40
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sparrDJones: nope, it's on the drive the installer just wiped clean. no big deal.20:40
dannyanyone here speaking chinese?20:40
dannyplz20:40
Z3RGthx20:40
DJones!cn | danny20:40
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SonikkuAmericakristenbb: What I meant was unlock the drives from the launcher. Wow. :\20:40
sparrDJones: gonna revisit my decision on 12.04 vs 13.04 for a laptop I'm giving to a not-too-savvy friend, since 13.04 just became much longer to install :)20:41
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: That will blacklist the drive from appearing.20:41
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: forever or just for this session ?20:41
DJonessparr: Sounds like 12.04 may be a better idea as its LTS, less for them to worry about and have to upgrade more often20:41
SonikkuAmericakristenbb >>> According to this source : http://askubuntu.com/questions/195988/how-to-remove-launcher-drive-icons <<< it appears to ditch it forever. You can change it back in dconf-editor or gsettings.20:42
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: ok, thanks.20:42
mayhewsparr: non-LTS releases of Ubuntu are essentially betas for the next LTS anyways.20:43
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: a somewhat similar question, do you know how to put the close, minimize, maximize icons to the right AND keep a contextual menu on the left of a window that appears when the top left corner is pressed ?20:43
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Well, if you remember how gconf-editor did it for pre-11.04 Ubuntu...20:44
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: (One second)20:44
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: In older versions, I used to do gconftool -s  /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string  menu:minimize,maximize,close. Now apparently it doesn't work anymore. I did gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ":minimize,maximize,close" and it works, but the thing on the left corner disappeared.20:45
vjarjadianAnyone here know if Ubuntu 13.04 is supporting Hyper-V Dynamic Memory? I've seen many locations specifying 12.** doesnt but a couple state 13.** does.20:45
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: I believe the command should be [ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" ]20:46
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: see above.20:46
Fuzzleshod do i find out what wireless card i have20:46
sereFuzzles: lspci20:46
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: You forgot the "thing on the left corner"?20:47
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Or are you thinking about another "thing on the left corner"?20:47
DJonesFuzzles: PCI or USB plug in stick? if PCI use LSPCI, if USB use LSUSB20:47
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: If you're talking about the window control menu, you need to put the menu button in front of the colon like I did in my rewrite of your command.20:48
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: well I don't know how to call it, but if I did the first command (gconftool -s ...) on ubuntu 12.04, the close/minimize/maximize buttons went to the right AND a new icon appeared on the left ("the thing" on the top left, which looks like a circle), which, if left clicked, would show a contextual menu. I was used to it to give another way to close a window from its left edge. Now with the new command, this icon doesn't exist anym20:49
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Yeah, like I said before... your button layout argument was ":minimize,maximize,close"20:50
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: yes this is it thank you, I had forgotten the menu part.20:50
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Yep. You're welcome.20:50
samgabbaylalalllalalalallalalalalala20:51
SonikkuAmerica!ot | samgabbay20:51
ubottusamgabbay: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:51
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SonikkuAmericasamgabbay: I'd think #ubuntu-singing would be more appropriate myself... :\20:51
silareHow do I change the Unity Panel font? FOr some reason it's using boldface fonts when my "default/desktop" font is a normal font...20:51
SonikkuAmericaXD20:51
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica: please allow me to ask yet another question, you seem to know a bit about unity and 12.04/13.04 differences: I now have a roughly two pixel wide purple line on the left edge of the screen. This stays even when the screen blackens, and is not part of a screenshot. WHat could cause this ?20:53
basiclaserhi guys, noob here, when mv -ing files and directories is there a way to avoid writing the entire directory out? Also i keep getting told that /home/Documents doesn't exist, what's up with that? any tutorial links welcome20:53
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SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Well, it could be a screen problem if it's not part of a screenshot.20:54
bgardnerbasiclaser: Sounds like you're referencing "My Documents" or similar without quotes.20:54
markypoohello20:54
kristenbbSonikkuAmerica:  I doubt it, the color is very similar to a ubuntu color, and didn't appear in 12.04 with the same screen.20:55
bgardnerbasiclaser: Paths with spaces in them must be quoted in order to cp, mv, etc.20:55
Guest60335how do i force a basic boot up on fedora 18 after i fail to install the video driver20:55
Guest60335ubuntu is garbage btw too much spyware20:55
bgardnerReally, in the Ubuntu support channel?20:55
bandit2992basiclaser: are you copying using the UI or from command line?20:55
Guest60335i did a ctrl+alt+f1 and kill the gdm and relog on it gave me chinese language20:55
SonikkuAmericakristenbb: Well, if it didn't appear in another incarnation of Ubuntu...20:56
Guest60335this was on ubuntu 12.1020:56
Guest60335so now i'm installing fedora 18 on my system.20:56
sereGuest60335: spyware?20:56
SonikkuAmericaGuest60335: You know you can turn that stuff off or use another "flavor," right?!20:56
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basiclaserbandit2992: bgardner: the file name was just called documents, not my documents. is it something to do with writing 'home'? do i have to write my actual username?20:57
bgardnerbasiclaser: You said when "mv-ing", what is the command line that gave you an error?20:58
dooglushow do I tell gnome-terminal which browser to open urls in?20:58
FloodBot1!netsplit20:58
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit20:58
bandit2992basiclaser: probably you want your documents in /home/[youruser]/documents20:58
basiclaserbgardner: yes i used mv20:58
SonikkuAmericabasiclaser: Your home folder can be also be specified by a tilde ( ~ ). Also, "Documents" is case-sensitive.20:59
dooglushow do I tell gnome-terminal which browser to open urls in?20:59
markypooa/s/l?20:59
SonikkuAmericamarkypoo: This isn't Omegle.20:59
markypoolol, j/m20:59
mayhewdooglus: it just uses the default browser20:59
SonikkuAmericadooglus: Type its name in the terminal, followed by the web address.20:59
markypoofirst time in here21:00
basiclaserbandit2992: thanks! i had to chuck in another 'home'. so my folder 'basiclaser' is labeled home, even though it's parent folder is actually called home ?? D: wtf :D21:00
k1l_markypoo: this is a technical support channel. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting21:00
dooglusmayhew: and how do I set the default browser?  I've set the default xfce4 browser, but gnome-terminal is presumably using some gnome setting21:00
SonikkuAmericadooglus: If you want the default browser to open it, use xdg-open.21:00
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: I mean when I see a link in a terminal, and I right-click it then 'open link'21:00
bgardnerbasiclaser: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HomeFolder21:01
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SonikkuAmericadooglus: (Unity) Search your dash for "Default Applications" or "Preferred Applications"21:01
SonikkuAmericadooglus: (I think it's the former)21:01
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: I use xfce4 not unity21:01
dooglusI guess what I'm asking is what program does 'preferred applications' un, so I can run it here21:02
basiclaserbgardner: thanks :) may i ask you one final small question? how do i move the contents of a folder 'up one level' in the same folder as the content's parent folder?21:02
SonikkuAmericadooglus: In XFCE, open the settings manager and select "Preferred Applications"21:02
BluesKajto set the default browser,  sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser21:02
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: I've set the xfce4 preferred browser, but gnome-terminal is using the gnome preferred browser setting, so I need to change that too21:02
bandit2992basiclaser: mv ./myFolder ../21:03
SonikkuAmericadooglus: Then use [ sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ] in a terminal.21:03
bgardnerbasiclaser: What he said.21:03
SonikkuAmericadooglus: Excuse me, sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser21:03
dooglusBluesKaj: that shows the browser I want already as 'auto'21:03
dhcianyone know how a fix for wrong XKB layout with keyboards attached to the VCP.21:03
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: that too21:04
BluesKajdooglus, then you have to install another browser , if you have only one21:04
SonikkuAmericadooglus: I assume you only have Firefox...?21:05
basiclaserbandit2992: says i cant, 'directory not empty'. to clarify, that command moves the contents of a folder but not the folder itself right?21:05
dooglusBluesKaj: I have firefox and chromium.  I want links to open in chromium, but they open in firefox21:05
dooglusBluesKaj: however: $ sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser | grep auto21:05
dooglus  0            /usr/bin/chromium-browser   40        auto mode21:05
SonikkuAmericadooglus: There's a bug that won't let Google Chrome or Chromium be the default browser. It's more than enough to set it to open when you click "Web Browser" in the XFCE apps menu.21:06
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: I had it working on my old laptop so I'm sure it's possible21:06
basiclaserbgardner: ah i got it! :D 'mv * ../' go me21:09
goddardis there a way I can easily search through system processes by keyword?21:09
tucemiuxanybody knows if there's an ubuntu tablet yet in the market?  Apparently the OS is there but is there hardware available for it?21:09
goddardlike say I wanted to do a search through running processes to check and see if ubuntu one was running21:10
tucemiuxgoddard, pd aux | grep NAME_OF_PROCESS_HERE21:10
tucemiuxgoddard, sorry -->ps aux21:10
goddardtucemiux: ok so that returned 20319  0.0  0.0  13628   964 pts/6    S+   14:11   0:00 grep --color=auto ubuntu one21:11
goddardthat means it is running?21:12
bgardnergoddard: No, that was the grep search itself that you found21:12
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tucemiuxtry searching for just "one"21:12
oliver__2nice one21:12
oliver__2ls lol21:13
bgardnergoddard: Here's what it would look like: "bgardner  2427  0.0  0.3 521248 63376 ?        Sl   05:52   0:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon"21:13
mayhewdooglus: did you get it working?21:13
tucemiuxps aux | grep ubuntuone*21:13
oliver__2honestly, ive tried 4 different distros - ubuntu comes first21:14
oliver__2i tried mint, mageia, fedora, solusOS21:14
oliver__2all the above had issues with something21:14
goddardtucemiux: bgardner cool thanks21:14
oliver__2so, out of the box, ubuntu wins hands down21:14
oliver__2ive upgraded the kernel21:15
oliver__2installed window managers21:15
oliver__2nvidia drivers21:15
oliver__2the works - and it takes it21:15
k1l_oliver__2: if its not a specific technical support issue please keep this channel clear for other support issues. we got #ubuntu-offtopic for the chat :)21:16
marianneoliver__2: isn't it great when it all works?21:16
fishermanhi, have 13.04 installed on a IdeaPad y-500, set the bios to boot Ubuntu first it keeps defaulting to windows.21:16
dooglusI found the answer.  to set the preferred browser in gnome, run "gnome-control-center info".  It's distinct from any "sudo update-alternatives" setting, which gnome-terminal seems to ignore21:21
daftykinssudo would run something as root though.21:21
daftykinsoh i get you21:21
dooglusI just like to answer my own questions when I find the answer, so I can find it in the logs next time I need it21:22
dooglusand maybe somebody else might find it useful too21:22
jhutchins_wkfisherman: the BIOS can usually only select which disk the MBR is read from, it can't usually select a partition.  Grub can do that.21:23
daftykinsdooglus: yeah nothing wrong with that21:23
jhutchins_wkdooglus: Yes, appriciated.  Defaults in the console != defaults in gnome, so not surprizing.21:23
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: the problem is that even after I've opened chromium from the 'rat' menu, right-clicking a link in the terminal was still running firefox.  running "gnome-control-center info" allowed me to tell it to user chromium instead21:24
SonikkuAmericadooglus: On21:26
SonikkuAmerica*Oh21:26
dooglusSonikkuAmerica: I guess it's somewhat uncommon to see links in a terminal.  I run irssi in a terminal as my IRC client, so I see them a lot21:28
SonikkuAmericadooglus: Oh.21:28
UNITDLG2loading21:34
UNITDLG2hello , my name is A.L.F.R.E.D. i am an interactive program set for testing here21:36
UNITDLG2please respond21:36
SonikkuAmericaUNITDLG2: ...21:36
SonikkuAmerica!robot21:37
UNITDLG2please respond21:37
marianneUNITDLG2: Hello A.L.F.R.E.D.21:37
UNITDLG2hello21:37
marianneUNITDLG2: A.L.F.R.E.D  wjat type of interactive program are you?21:38
UNITDLG2my name is A.L.F.R.E.D. but you can call me Alfred21:39
SonikkuAmericaApparently a bot with not much AI. :P21:39
vjarjadianmaybe it runs on ubuntu21:39
SonikkuAmericaThanks k1l_21:39
marianneSonikkuAmerica: That's what I was thinking...one typo and it died21:40
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SonikkuAmericamarianne: ikr? Now back to Ubuntu support.21:40
UNITDLG2lost server21:41
marianneSonikkuAmerica: exactly.21:41
k1l_UNITDLG2: stop that21:41
UNITDLG2server back21:41
UNITDLG2hello21:41
jbroome!ping21:41
ubottupong!21:41
k1l_!guidelines > UNITDLG221:41
ubottuUNITDLG2, please see my private message21:41
UNITDLG2unable to read21:42
DrFoois mount different from mount.cifs?  I thought mount -t cifs just called mount.cifs, but mount.cifs doesn't show up on my system.21:43
stevePage129http://askubuntu.com/questions/305701/my-emerson-liebert-ups-is-not-reporting-correctly-but-works-in-windows21:43
stevePage129if somebody could help me with my UPS issue.... ^21:43
marianneStevePage129: give us the details of what is wrong with your UPS, then the channel Gods can determine if they can help you or point you to the right chat21:47
samgabbayHi everyone21:47
st34lthis systemctl enable same as chkconfig on21:53
bekksst34lth: chkconfig does not exist on ubuntu, neither does systemctl. Which linux are you actually running?21:55
st34lthlol i know im cheating bekks. lol i looked through the network and clicked the first linux distro help i found21:56
bekksst34lth: Well, then please stick to the channel of the distribution you are actually running, which isnt Ubuntu.21:57
sparrI need to confirm a bug in 12.0421:58
sparrcan someone help me reproduce?21:58
sparrgo to User Accounts and change your password21:59
sparrthen go to a console and do "sudo chage yourusername -m 9999"21:59
sparrthen go to User Accounts and try to change your password again21:59
sparrit appears to say "Wrong password" and refuse to let you change it, when it should give a min password age notice22:00
bean__sparr: it could be that the User Accounts GUI doesn't understand minimum password age22:00
bean__and who uses min password ages o.o22:00
sparrbean__: almost certainly22:01
sparrthat is very likely to be the problem22:01
sparrI'm setting a min password age for a user who I don't want changing their password22:01
bean__so why does it matter if they can't change it through the gui?22:02
bean__I wouldn't call that a bug.22:03
st34lthbreath bekks22:03
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bean__no, st34lth, please only use the channel for the distro of linux that you're using.22:03
bean__we can't support anything but ubuntu here.22:03
sparrthe bug is the message22:04
sparrit says "Wrong password"22:04
st34lthbreathe guys, relax.22:04
sparrwhich is incorrect22:04
bean__feel free to file a bug.22:04
neo2hi. how can i get my public gpg key in Passwords and Keys?22:08
neo2I found it. It isn't in the right click only in edit menu22:09
erle-if you make thunderbird the default mail client of ubuntu, why don't you integrate thunderbird passwords with gnome keyring?22:12
akurilin212.04LTS question: I'm looking for logrotate above version 3.8 and the official repository doesn't go above 3.7. Does anybody have advice for how to get hold of a newer version that's not by manually building it myself?22:15
icerootakurilin2: backports or ppa22:17
iceroot!backports | akurilin222:17
ubottuakurilin2: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging22:17
iceroot!ppa | akurilin222:17
ubottuakurilin2: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge22:17
delacusing avconv to join some png's to video. How to loop the images N times?22:20
Dave77what version of perl comes with ubuntu?22:21
icerootDave77: depending on the ubuntu version22:21
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Dave77I used berryboot to get quantal server 13.01.. but it only has perl 5.1422:22
iceroot!info perl22:22
ubottuperl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.14.2-21 (raring), package size 3619 kB, installed size 11357 kB22:22
icerootDave77: 5.1.14 is the newest version which is part of ubuntu 13.0422:23
icerootDave77: 5.14.2 sorry22:23
sparrI'm trying to allow flash to use my webcam and mic in firefox on 12.04. The allow/deny dialog for allowing flash to use my camera appears, but I can't actually click the Allow or Deny buttons. Help?22:24
NewLinuxUserHello22:25
Dave77hm.. I installed perl on another linux and it gave me 5.16.. and also offered 5.1822:26
Dave77so how do I get a 5.16 perl included in next ubuntu?22:28
iceroot!backports | Dave7722:31
ubottuDave77: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging22:31
iceroot!ppa | Dave7722:31
ubottuDave77: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge22:31
icerootDave77: and why you need the newest version?22:31
icerootDave77: just because its newer?22:31
delachow do I STOP avconv loop (other than ctrl-c)?22:34
delacnm, it turns out avconv is strict about the parameter position and order22:37
samgabbayhi i wanted to know how can i remove my windows partition on ubuntu22:37
samgabbay?22:39
icerootsamgabbay: use "gparted" to delete that partition22:41
Dave77iceroot: because a youtube viewer script requires 5.16.2  :- latest is 5.1822:41
icerootDave77: i would not recommend to upgrade perl just for one script22:41
samgabbayiceroot,  do you recommend i completly remove windows because right now i found an alternative to sync my ipod with ubuntu on ios 6 uhm some games i have are runnable thru ubuntu do you think i should completly get rid of windows? and have windows on a vm?22:42
liam__hi guys22:43
icerootsamgabbay: i am using the same setup here, removed windows partition complety and just have a vm for something like outlook22:43
samgabbayiceroot,  alright sweet imma get rid of this peace of junk os22:43
silareHow do I change the Unity Panel font? FOr some reason it's using boldface fonts when my "default/desktop" font is a normal font...22:43
liam__while doing a software update,managed to knock laptop off. now i cant update at all. any suggestions?22:43
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samgabbayand plus many games work over playonlinux22:44
icerootliam__: what is the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?22:44
icerootsamgabbay: or even steam directly22:44
samgabbayiceroot, yea but the apps i have i dont have the driver for my graphics cause its a mobility radeon22:44
Ladon:(){ :|: & };:22:45
Dave77perl 5.14 binary is over 2 yrs old in ubuntu..22:45
icerootDave77: and?22:45
icerootDave77: if you always want the newest software, ubuntu is not the correct distribution for you22:46
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Dave77so then I have to use non-ubuntu just to run a script..22:46
icerootDave77: i am happy to use older software which is tested much more then a very new system22:46
samgabbayiceroot,  but yeaa im installing gparted22:46
RuhHello, how is everyone?22:46
bray90820So every time i try to load a driver in ubuntu it just says driver not loaded22:46
icerootDave77: as i said ealrier, use a ppa or backports22:46
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vantageHi all, I just did a fresh install of 12.04, then immediately upgraded it to 12.10, then 13.04. Everything is working fine except for sound. I don't even have the sound icon in the top right. I have an m-audio 66 sound card22:47
lucasahola22:47
vantagewhen I go to sound settings it just closes immediately22:47
bray90820Would i am actually trying to do it start the web interface for my esata raid box22:48
icerootDave77: or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4005610/how-can-i-install-a-newer-perl-without-damaging-the-system-install22:48
bray90820so ubuntu can't see my esata raid box22:49
kostkonvantage, for a start, delete your .pulse folder, logout and log back in, or just kill pulseaudio, pulseaudio -k and start it again, pulseaudio -D22:49
samgabbayiceroot, how do i delete the partition and then put it into the ubuntu partition with gparted?22:49
icerootsamgabbay: select the partion, right click - remove, then hit apply (in the top menu) after that choose resize for the ubuntu partition (this step can only be done from a live-system because you cant change the size when you have booted the system)22:50
iceroot!gparted | samgabbay22:50
ubottusamgabbay: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php22:50
vantagekostkon: Yup, did both (and just killed and restarted again), no difference.22:51
liam__Thanks Iceroot, that did the trick22:51
samgabbayiceroot, do i use my usb to boot into it then install gparted on there and then do what you told me22:51
liam__got my updates straight22:51
vantagekostkon: now pavcontrol shows levels when I have sound playing, but nothing is coming out of the speakers22:51
liam__thanks Iceroot22:51
mediacentaurhi all... i need some help editing fstab. i can mount a remote share by browsing to the network section of the filesystem. i can mount  both NAS drives through nautilus but can only get one to mount through fstab.22:52
icerootliam__: nice22:52
icerootsamgabbay: yes that sounds good22:52
samgabbayiceroot,  alright will do22:52
kostkonvantage, are you sending the sound to the corrent device? is your m-audio set as the default output device?22:52
bray90820Why won't ubuntu see my raid box22:53
vantagekostkon: the only option is analog output and it's set to that on the ice1712 (m-audio delta)22:53
vantagekostkon: now the card has a break out box with 4 outputs. In debian, I used to be able to specify that output that was being used, but it should be 1 and 2 by defailt22:53
vantageer default22:53
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kostkonvantage, you could check the status of your volume levels and switches in alsamixer22:55
strixUKif i want to run apache 2.4 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, am i best off building from source, or is there likely to be a backport for 12.04 at some point in the near future?22:55
iceroot!info apache2 precise22:56
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.3 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB22:56
iceroot!info apache222:56
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.22-6ubuntu5 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB22:56
vantagekostkon: alsamixer doesn't show any levels for anything.22:56
icerootstrixUK: the best on a public server is NOT to build something from source or to use something not from the repos because of security updates and support22:57
icerootstrixUK: so when there is no special reason why you need 2.4, dont do it and stay with the STABLE version 2.222:57
kostkonvantage, what happens if you press F6 in alsamixer.22:57
vantagekostkon: I can select between by webcam, my disabled onboard sound card, and the m-audio delta (which I selected)22:58
kostkonvantage, and again no volume levels are shown if you select your m-audio22:59
vantagekostkon: That's right. I see levels in pavcontrol, but not in alsamixer22:59
kostkonvantage, hmm that's strange23:00
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vantagekostkon: Weird, I manually bumped up the levels in alsamixer and got sound.23:03
kostkonvantage, lol. that's a good sign23:03
strixUKiceroot: i agree.. building from source means manually upgrading.  i'm not thrilled about the idea,23:04
vantagekostkon: but will it save? and why doesn't sound settings work or adjusting the volumes using pavcontrol?23:04
mediacentaurhi all... i need some help editing fstab. i can mount a remote share by browsing to the network section of the filesystem. i can mount  both NAS drives through nautilus but can only get one to mount through fstab.23:04
strixUKiceroot: the reason for going 2.4 is partly advice from the guys over in #httpd, and partly because of memory23:04
icerootstrixUK: that is not a single good reason :) please stay with the ultra stable version 2.223:05
icerootstrixUK: which is part on mostly every webserver23:05
vantagekostkon: I also still don't have the sound icon in the top right23:06
icerootstrixUK: and apache 2.2.24 was releases 02/201323:06
strixUKiceroot: is mpm_worker available in the ubuntu repo?23:07
icerootstrixUK: yes23:07
kostkonvantage, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/17844223:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 178442 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Lucid) "Pulseaudio fails to initialize ICE1712 chipsets" [Low,Triaged]23:07
icerootstrixUK: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search searchstring23:07
samgabbayiceroot: i have unalocated space but it wont let me add it to my ubuntu partition23:07
kostkonvantage, is pulseaudio actually running right now? if ps -A | grep pulse gives you an output then probably it is23:08
bray90820Can someone explain to me why i keep getting the error driver not loaded23:08
bekks!details | bray9082023:09
ubottubray90820: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:09
samgabbayiceroot:  sooo??23:09
vantagekostkon: yup23:10
icerootsamgabbay: you are on the live-cd? you already applied the deletion? gparted was rereading the partitions after that?23:10
bray90820I am trying to get hptsvr working which is the web inerface for my raid box23:10
kostkonvantage, did you get any errors when you restarted pulseaudio?23:11
bekksbray90820: And what exactly are you doing?23:11
samgabbayiceroot:  im on the live-cd look at what i did23:11
vantagekostkon: nope. This describes my situation https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442/comments/18423:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 178442 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Lucid) "Pulseaudio fails to initialize ICE1712 chipsets" [Low,Triaged]23:11
vantagekostkon: Which seems fixed now that I bumped up the volumes in alsamixer, however, sound settings still crashes and no volume icon.23:12
kostkonvantage, try to kill and restart pulseaudio again23:12
samgabbayi wanna try pasting the image from the clipboard23:13
ZeranoeIs there any way to stress test the cpu on a multi core linux system? I want to see 100% cpu usage across all cores23:13
bekkssamgabbay: Save it as a file, and upload it to some image hosting service.23:13
bekksZeranoe: Why?23:13
samgabbayhere got it http://snag.gy/n9als.jpg23:13
bray90820It says if i can not access the web interface then it in not running and to  start hptsvr manually type in hptsvr23:13
samgabbaybekks:  here http://snag.gy/n9als.jpg23:13
bray90820and when i do that it says driver not loaded23:13
samgabbayiceroot:  here http://snag.gy/n9als.jpg23:13
bray90820It says if i can not access the web interface then it in not running and to  start hptsvr manually type in hptsvr23:14
bray90820and when i do that it says driver not loaded23:14
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Zeranoebekks: Because I'm running a linux machine in a virtual machine and I'm not seeing all 8 cores being used with make -j 8. I want to find out if it is virtualbox or make23:14
bekksbray90820: So do you have the driver(s) necessary loaded?23:14
samgabbaysooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?23:14
bray90820I am trying to load them23:14
bekksZeranoe: make -j X will never use all cores at 100% since make -j X is mostly an I/O thing.23:14
bray90820but it's not working23:14
Zeranoebekks: Anything that will?23:15
icerootsamgabbay: if i am correct, sda3 needs to be the primary and not the extended. extended of what when you want to allocate everything to it? then there is no base23:15
bekksbray90820: So how do you try to load them? And what does "not working" mean?23:15
icerootsamgabbay: but i have to sleep now, sorry23:15
silareHow do I change the Unity Panel font? FOr some reason it's using boldface fonts when my "default/desktop" font is a normal font...23:15
samgabbayiceroot:  please dont leave me how do i make it primary23:15
icerootZeranoe: vbox23:15
kostkonvantage, someone has posted a fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442/comments/30  if you attempt it, make a copy of the file before editing it23:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 178442 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Lucid) "Pulseaudio fails to initialize ICE1712 chipsets" [Low,Triaged]23:15
icerootZeranoe: you have to edit there how mayn cores will be available in the guest23:15
bray90820i already exsplained when i type in hptsvr it says driver not loaded23:15
bray90820but that is what i am suppose to type in to start it23:16
Zeranoeiceroot: They are, all 8 are allowed23:16
bekksZeranoe: Again - why? You have assigned multiple cores to a vm, and you can see them being used. Isnt that enough to give you the good feeling that you could use those virtual cores?23:16
ZeranoeI'm seeing 50% usage23:16
bekksbray90820: So how do you try to load the necessary drivers?23:16
icerootsamgabbay: right click on sda6 to do the resizing and not sda323:16
bray90820I just told you23:16
bray90820i type in ptsvr23:16
bray90820hptsvr23:16
samgabbayplease someone help me with this isssuee23:16
bekksbray90820: You didnt. You told us how you are trying to start an application. That doesnt load any drivers.23:17
icerootZeranoe: in "top" you see 8 cores when you press "1" inside top?23:17
bray90820well then the manual is completely wrong23:17
bekksbray90820: which manual?23:17
bekksbray90820: Which drivers are needed, actually?23:17
samgabbaystill the same23:17
Zeranoeiceroot: Yes, so it's I/o?23:18
samgabbayiceroot:  it wont let me move the arrows futherr thats what i did with the image23:18
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bekksZeranoe: make -j X is about I/O mostly, yes.23:18
samgabbayiceroot:  should i reinstall ubuntu23:20
bekkssamgabbay: You should expand the extended partition.23:21
samgabbaybekks:  but it wont let me move the slider futher23:21
goddardhow can i uninstall ubuntu one?23:21
bekkssamgabbay: Then deactivate the swap partition.23:21
samgabbaybekks:  linux swamp??????????23:22
bekkssamgabbay: You ? key is defective.23:22
samgabbaybekks:  kkind of23:22
samgabbaybekks:  still wont let me i truned the swamp off23:22
bekkssamgabbay: How did you turn off swap?23:22
samgabbayright clikc swampoff23:22
bekkssamgabbay: Then take another screenshot please and upload it.23:23
bray90820If you can't connect to local system, please check if hptsvr is running on the system. If not, start it manually by running "hptsvr".23:23
bray90820bekks that's what it says23:23
bekksbray90820: So which drivers are needed?23:23
bray90820but when i do tat it says driver not loaded23:23
bray90820i assume the one it provided me for the web interface23:24
bray90820which i already installed23:24
bekksbray90820: A web interface does not install any drivers. Which drivers for what are you talking about in detail?23:24
bray90820Well then the ones for the raid box23:24
samgabbaybekks:  heerre http://snag.gy/VaTIn.jpg23:25
bekksbray90820: So which driver is needed in detail? What does that driver do? Whats the name of the driver?23:25
bekkssamgabbay: sda6 isnt the extended partition. sda3 is.23:26
bray90820bekks: It's the drivers for my tower raid TR4M+B23:26
bekkssamgabbay: Resize sda3, then resize sda6.23:26
samgabbaybekks:  sooo what am i support to do23:26
bray90820and maybe my raid card23:26
bray90820i am not sure about that23:26
bekksbray90820: For which hardware component? For which hardware chipset?23:26
bray90820bekks: what do you mean23:27
strixUKiceroot: thanks for your advice.  yeah, i'll stick to 2.2+fcgi as a compromise.23:28
bekksbray90820: "raid box" - that can mean everything. We need to know which hardware chipset it is using, like "it is using a 2ware controller, a MPT controller, some HP SmartCache RAID Controller, etc." - the marketing name "TR4M+B super duper" doesnt mean anything.23:28
samgabbaybekks:  is there a way to make it the primary cause look what issue i just got  http://snag.gy/fDNaG.jpg23:28
samgabbaybekks:  i need it as primary and extended23:29
bekkssamgabbay: Either primary - or extended. It cant be both.23:29
samgabbaybekks:  how can i change the extended to primary23:30
samgabbaybekks:  and move all my files too23:30
bekkssamgabbay: That isnt possible.23:31
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samgabbaybekks:  soo i guess im gonna have to make a backup and then reinstall ubuntu?23:31
bekkssamgabbay: Why?23:31
bray90820bekks: The chipset is a common Silicon Images SiI 3132 controller23:31
samgabbaybekks:  cause doesent it work better in terms of performance??23:31
bekkssamgabbay: Resize sda3, then resize sda6.23:31
bekkssamgabbay: primary/extended doesnt have anything to do with performance. Just with naming.23:32
samgabbayoh23:32
samgabbaybekks:  and now when i click apply it says it can cause loss of data will it lose my ubuntu data?23:32
bekksbray90820: So you have to load the necessary drivers for that specific hardware component.23:32
samgabbaywow im from the qateam and im just dumb :/23:32
bekkssamgabbay: Yeah, it can lead to data loss. I guess you have a complete backup.23:33
bekkssamgabbay: You have taken a full backup, dont you?23:33
samgabbaybekks: not of my ubuntu installation nope23:33
samgabbay:/23:33
bekkssamgabbay: Then take a backup now.23:33
samgabbaybekks:  whatever if i lose my data i still have my music on my ipod so il extract it with banshe23:33
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bray90820I did that23:34
bekkssamgabbay: If you dont have a backup - why do you care about losing data not worth to be kept? ;)23:34
bekksbray90820: So which module did you load - name it, now.23:34
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samgabbaybekks:  new issue http://snag.gy/obG9I.jpg23:35
bray90820bekks: what are you looking for the chipset or the model number23:35
bekkssamgabbay: "cant have overlapping partitions". :)23:35
samgabbaybekks:  yeaaa what do i do :/23:35
bekksbray90820: The name of the module (which is the driver) you stated to have loaded already.23:36
bray90820I am not sure23:36
bray90820i loaded the one on the disc they gave me23:36
bekksbray90820: You said you loaded it - so you know the name of the module you loaded, dont you?23:36
samgabbaybekks: what do i doooo it wont let :/23:37
bekksbray90820: how did you load it?23:37
bekkssamgabbay: Click close? And use a smaller size for expanding the partition. Leave some free space at the beginning.23:37
bray90820I loaded it with an installer.sh located on the disc they gave me23:37
bekksbray90820: So whats the name of the module you loaded?23:38
samgabbaystill wont let23:38
bray90820bekks i don't know23:38
samgabbaybekks:  il just reinstall ubuntu but is there a way to backup data and all my packedges23:38
bekkssamgabbay: There are numerous ways.23:38
bray90820and i would think that would be necessary since i got everything off the disc they gave me23:38
bekks!backup | samgabbay23:38
ubottusamgabbay: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning23:38
samgabbaybekks:  apps too????23:38
bray90820i ment wouldn't23:39
bekksbray90820: I dont think that it is necessary at all. Linux should support that hardware using a kernel shiiped module, not some 3rd party stuff.23:39
bekksbray90820: Its fairly easy to search for it.23:40
bray90820then why wouldn't ubuntu just see it by default23:40
bekksbray90820: Because ubuntu doesnt load every module (there are a few thousands of them) which is supported by the kernel.23:41
bray90820Then how would i get my device working23:41
bekksbray90820: By loading the module supporting your hardware.23:42
bray90820how23:42
bekksbray90820: You have to find out the module supporting your specific silicon image raid controller.23:43
mediacentauri need some help editing fstab. i can mount a network share by browsing to the network section of the filesystem. i can mount  both NAS drives through nautilus but can only get one to mount through fstab.23:43
bray90820bekks: HOTMOD=rr62x23:44
bekksbray90820: Whats that?23:44
bray90820the module23:45
bekksbray90820: It isnt.23:45
bekksbray90820: Its some text assigned to a label named HOTMOD.23:45
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bekksbray90820: Where did you get that from?23:45
bray90820it says in the install.sh file that it is the module name23:46
bekksbray90820: "rr" implies "RocketRAID" - which doesnt fit your description "Silicon Image..."23:46
bray90820then i am very very confused23:47
crustiehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TRMLbY24mpQ/UbKg-v_70DI/AAAAAAAANWE/1yt5E034GHU/s1600/1370623044052.jpg23:47
bekksbray90820: So please stop guessing, but just search the HCL for the name of the module supporting your hardware.23:47
bekks!hcl | bray9082023:47
ubottubray90820: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection23:47
bray90820the guide the website and the disc are all 3 wrong then23:47
garrettkajmowiczGreetings! I recently upgraded my server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. I am unable to boot with the new kernel+initramfs. However, I can still boot with the old kernel+initramfs. When I boot I get dumped to the busybox shell.23:47
bekksbray90820: They are perfectly right, but you are mixing it all up :)23:47
bray90820no23:47
bray90820i looked it up23:47
bray90820and installed raid driver from the disc23:48
chipotlehi, i want to set up a fileserver for my movies on ubuntu... any guides out there on how to do this with RAID, so it'll appear as one disk?23:48
bekksbray90820: So give me the link in the HCL showing your specific hardware support.23:48
bray90820what exactly do you want23:48
bekksbray90820: I just told you.23:48
garrettkajmowiczThe onlything notable about my config is that the root device is a multi-disk device (RAID1 mirror). The funny thing is that when I get the shell, I can mount /dev/md0 without any problems (though I still have no idea how to proceed from there).23:48
bray90820do you want the website to the box i have?23:48
garrettkajmowiczSpent a lot of time yesterday working on options like delayroot, nomodeset, etc., all to no avail. Any suggestions on where to go from here?23:49
bekksbray90820: No. ubottu gave you a link to the hardware compatibility list, and I want you to read it and show me the part where it says that your hardware is actually supported.23:49
bray90820The manufacture says it is and gives us the drives on a disc and that's what i installed23:50
bray90820so it should work but it doesn't23:50
bekksbray90820: Well, then please stick to the support of the manufacturer, if you dont want to follow the instructions to get your hardware supported natively.23:51
bray90820whatever23:52
b14d3Hi all, my Ubuntu box just started doing this thing where it will boot and appears to be mostly running (I can ssh to it and such) but it doesn't load the GUI at all. It's currently stuck at a screen that says "Ubuntu 12.04" with four dots under it like it normally does before it loads the GUI. Any ideas on where I should start?23:54
bgardnerb14d3: Does Ctrl-Alt-F1 take you to a TTY?23:56
histob14d3: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log23:57
b14d3Checking xorg.0.log right now23:57
b14d3Xorg log loks like it only has one real error in it, AIGLX error: dlopen...23:59

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