[00:01] <sere> jeus: mv that font to ~ and run that command again and see if you get a invalid cache file
[00:01] <jeus> sere, use clementine
[00:02] <sere> jeus: i dont like clementine much :/.. they taste good though :)
[00:03] <jeus> sere , is very Difficult  way . +500 font
[00:04] <sere> jeus: just that one font
[00:04] <sere> jeus: my guess is that font is giving you your problem
[00:05] <jeus> sere, i see very other font in .fonts that not install
[00:06] <chalcedony> someone i'm working with has 12.04 and is having problems with overheating, is there something they should look at?
[00:06] <jeus> sere, where are u from ?
[00:06] <sysRPL> can anyone help me here? i am on ubuntu with gnome and i was running dolphin as my file manager. today i tried to send delete files using dolphin and it got hung up so i closed the app and rebooted, now when i try yo launch dolphin nothing happens. when i typed'dolphin' in a terminal the prompt doesn't return and nothing opens. i tried deleting my ~/kde folder and still nothing opens.
[00:07] <sere> jeus: usa, texas
[00:07] <eliezerb> chalcedony, I was heaving this problem
[00:07] <jeus> sere, I'm from IRAN, kerman
[00:08] <eliezerb> ops having
[00:08] <sere> jeus: oh cool
[00:08] <jeus> sere, which cool ?
[00:09] <niargh> Any idea about preventing hibernation when laptop lid closed?
[00:09] <niargh> Even though proper settings in Power settings
[00:11] <sere> jeus: that cool. that u live there
[00:11] <bazhang> !ot | sere jeus
[00:11] <sere> niargh: with your power manage i believe
[00:12] <niargh> sere: the power settings are set to 'do nothing' when lid closed
[00:12] <sere> mute bazhang!
[00:13] <elisa87> histo: hi...what should I do if fsck and boot-repair took me to initramfs again? mount: mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on
[00:13] <elisa87> /root failed: Invalid argument
[00:13] <sere> niargh: did you check on battery and on ac power?
[00:13] <OiCory> Hey guys, I'm developing a program in C, I'm from Windows whre we have Visual, but what are some suggestions for gui based suits in Ubunut?
[00:13] <niargh> sere: yep
[00:13] <Dr_willis> !ide | OiCory
[00:13] <elisa87> OiCory: code::blocks
[00:13] <chalcedony> *hugs* good to see you Dr_willis :)
[00:13] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  check the uuid is the same as the actual partition?
[00:14] <sere> niargh: sorry i dunno.. i use xfce power manager
[00:14] <elisa87> how should I do so Dr_willis
[00:14] <niargh> sere: thanks anyway
[00:14] <goddard> AMD has open source drivers for the 7xxx series?
[00:14] <OiCory> elisa87: I saw code blocks, i liked it, but wanted to get some more opinions. Thanks!
[00:14] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  check what UUID its usibng.. and what 'sudo blikid' says for the partions UUID
[00:18] <elisa87> by-uuid is mounting disk which is righ I believe /dev/sda5: UUID="3ad92531-9261-4275-a450-350888f67e0c" TYPE="ext4"  Dr_willis
[00:18] <jeus> sere, thats work . i move all fonts and return that which need
[00:19] <jeus> sere, thank u
[00:19] <sere> jeus: great! your welcome :)
[00:19] <jeus> sere, can i have your Gmail ID
[00:22] <sere> jeus: sure i messages you
[00:22] <jeus> sere, thank you.
[00:22] <SexyGirlG> my skype am a hot girl add em guys  : rose.mourad
[00:22] <sere> jeus: your welcome
[00:23] <rotoss> /
[00:23] <tom[]> where are the iptables bins on 12.04.2? they are not in /sbin on my server
[00:24] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  and 'sudo blkid' shows that as the same UUID? that is your / partition?
[00:24] <mikodo> Does running a solid state drive for Vbox install of Windows significantly tax a mobo over the long run (using it days on end), and reduce it's longevity, compared to using windows on it's own solid state drive natively? I am going to replace and have two new drives in my machine, one solid state for my /root installs, a platter for /media/DATA drive.
[00:24] <mikodo> My computer	http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12132708-12133156-12133158-12133158-12133158-80626463-81225089.html?dnr=1
[00:25] <Dr_willis> mikodo,  i cant imagine how using it would really reduce its longevity.
[00:26] <Dr_willis> mikodo,  vbox is acessing a virtual hd file on the drive. so it dosent know its a ssd or not. Linux has tweaks for fstab to help ssd ussage a bit.
[00:26] <elisa87> Dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750162/
[00:27] <mikodo> Dr_willis, Thank you.
[00:27] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  if you are just using 4 partions.. i would setup 4 primary partions next time you install. guess sda5 is your /   since its the only linux partion that can be / ;)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> elisa87,  and that UUID matches the one given by the error message?
[00:28] <sere> banshee doesnt seem to update my mp3s like rhythmbox...i have to keep rescan the database everytime i add a file? is that normal
[00:29] <DraconianZ> hey
[00:29] <bindi> how can I change the sound device used by siggen? I tried creating ~/.siggen.conf that says "DACFILE /dev/snd/by-path/blabla"
[00:30] <bindi> keeps trying to use /dev/dsp.sorry if its not an ubuntu question
[00:30] <elisa87> Dr_willis:  sda5 is linux one and it's UIUD is the same as I get as an error in mounting /dev/disk/by-uuid/3ad ... on  /root failed invalid argument  (ALERT!  /host/256 doesn't exist) and I don't know what to do?
[00:31] <mikodo> Dr_willis, Where would I read about tweaks for fstab? One answer is fine like .... search "---------" Thank you.
[00:31] <elisa87> Dr_willis:  and I have done all these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750057/ none were successful!
[00:32] <bindi> argh! i have a problem: ive got a mini laptop with a dead screen, and it was a PITA to get ubuntu installed (did this a year ago), now that I need the laptop, I cant get it updated anymore - it has ubuntu 11.04
[00:32] <bindi> dist-upgrade gives me 404
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> mikodo,  use this link on my SSD, https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[00:33] <Guest1450> how do i make a usb installer of 13.04
[00:33] <mikodo> williammanda, Thank you sir.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> Guest1450, unetbootin is one app of many
[00:34] <Guest1450> wilee-nilee: i have run across it but really don't understand how, most posing say to make a live installer, but i have the iso and just want to put it on a usb and make it bootable
[00:35] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Wonderful, "Easy Linux tips project" are always on the money. Good job!
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Guest1450, Unetbootin has a disc image tick, you then navigate to the download and choose it and run it.
[00:36] <xangua> Guest1450: there are instructions on ubuntu.com
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, It is a thorough explanation with different variables, such as if you have a separate home.
[00:38] <sere> Guest1450: multisystem is a nice program
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> Guest1450, What OS are you doing this in?
[00:39] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, I'll have a separate /mount/DATA drive., symlinked to /root installs on the SSD. So should be good.
[00:41] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, I just have to get my head around sharing folders from virtual drive to my /mount/DATA drive before symlinking them back to the /root installs. Should be fun.
[00:42] <epsilonorion> so I was trying to setup ubuntu with a ssd but moved /usr to a partition on a hdd (realizing this didn't help the speed too late).  Can anyone confirm my assumption that I should not move /usr to the hdd but only move the /usr/local?  If so, I guess I just deal with the space being eaten up when installing files
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> epsilonorion, You mean the .local in home?
[00:44] <epsilonorion> no /usr partition  /usr/local partition
[00:44] <epsilonorion> folders
[00:44] <epsilonorion> sorry
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> pretty small folder here /usr/local
[00:44] <epsilonorion> I was working on splitting folders into separate partitions so I can reduce the amount of space and writes used on the ssd
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> 20MB
[00:45] <epsilonorion> wilee-nilee: agreed
[00:45] <epsilonorion> I moved opt, then thought I needed to move /usr as well, however, when I did the entire boot slowed down
[00:45] <epsilonorion> by that I assume I should leave /usr on the ssd
[00:45] <epsilonorion> and only move opt and home onto the hdd
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> epsilonorion, You can tweak the setup for a ssd that is your best route really, unless you have a a lot of data best run from a disc HD.
[00:46] <epsilonorion> wilee-nilee: huh?
[00:46] <epsilonorion> I am tweaking the ssd
[00:46] <epsilonorion> I am trying to figure out the best way to
[00:46] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com and the various blog sites mention ssd tweaks.
[00:46] <Dr_willis> I think theres only like 2 or 3 options to add to /etc/fstab  for most people
[00:47] <epsilonorion> Dr_willis: thanks, I am doing those, but some suggestions were moving folders to the hdd as well
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> epsilonorion, Here is a link I posted earlier for SSD tweaks. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[00:47] <epsilonorion> specifically opt
[00:47] <Dr_willis> my whole linux box is running on a ssd i dont see much to gain by moving  things to a non ssd if i got the space
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> Same here
[00:47] <Dr_willis> it will just make things slower to load.
[00:48] <sere> is an ssd os faster?
[00:48] <epsilonorion> thanks, I will definitely take a look at those (some I have seen other places).  I would love to, but lets assume I dont have the space (not everyone does) since I have windows installed as well
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> mine is
[00:49] <zephyr28> could someone please explain to me how to completely remove the OpenJRE/JDK system of packages??
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> ! jdk
[00:49] <Dr_willis> my system boots in like 10-15 seconds to the Ubuntu desktop from SSD.
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> ! jre
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> zephyr28, See the wiki the bot shows.
[00:50] <sere> Dr_willis: is it just a regular install.. and will usb be just as fast?
[00:50] <epsilonorion> I know keeping everything on the ssd would make it faster, but i can't.  I need to figure out the best folders to move.  I figured opt and home were primary
[00:51] <sere> im on a acer mini and its not that fast so any way to speed it up would be awesome
[00:51] <zephyr28> Thanks, wilee-nilee.  Can't develope for Android with OpenJDK
[00:51] <Dr_willis> running from a USB flash drive will be slower then a hard drive
[00:51] <Dr_willis> epsilonorion,  if you want slow access to your home :)
[00:52] <Dr_willis> my whole ubuntu system is on a 128gb SSD
[00:52] <Dr_willis> things like video bulk storage - i got a extra 3TB hard drive.
[00:52] <epsilonorion> Dr_willis: again, assuming I have no choice since I also have windows, lots of programs that I absolutely need to run fast, etc. on my ssd
[00:52] <epsilonorion> r
[00:52] <Dr_willis> fitting windows totally on a SSD can be the issue. :) its so huge compared to linux
[00:53] <epsilonorion> thanks though, I understand what you are saying, but I just need to know what the best folders are to move over.
[00:53] <Dr_willis> totally depenss on what work you are doing.
[00:53] <Dr_willis> as to whats best
[00:53] <Dr_willis> if the user is doing a lot of file access and work, then putting their home on the non ssd would hamper them
[00:54] <Dr_willis> if all they do is web surf.. it may not matter much at all
[00:54] <epsilonorion> well, my assumption is that lots of programs install in opt.  If I install manually, etc, I can install them at home.  I can treat this like my windows setup.  Fast programs go on ssd program files folder, slow programs go on hdd
[00:54] <Dr_willis> epsilonorion,  lots install to /opt/ ? actually i have NONE in /opt at all.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> stuff from the repos defainatly do not install to /opt/
[00:54] <epsilonorion> eh, a lot of my development programs do
[00:54] <epsilonorion> other than that is is /usr
[00:54] <Dr_willis>  /opt/ is just sort of a dumping ground for stuff. ;)
[00:55] <Dr_willis> so it depends on if you need to access those in /opt/ fast or not
[00:55] <Dr_willis> its rather trivial to link /opt/ or other / dirs to somewhere on the non ssd :)
[00:56] <joe1980> hi guys
[00:56] <Dr_willis> you could even move just some users homes to  the hd.
[00:56] <joe1980> which is the channel for problems to open  virtualbox on the ububtu 13
[00:56] <joe1980> ?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> #vbox or here - would be my guess
[00:57] <Dr_willis> and of course the forums and askubuntu.com
[00:57] <joe1980> i was checking on the foruns did all that i can
[00:57] <joe1980> but it did not work
[00:58] <epsilonorion> Dr_willis: single user laptop.  Only 30-40GB if lucky of my ssd can be dedicated to ubuntu and such.  That is my predicament.  That is why I plan on moving some stuff to the hdd.  Home was primary, thought about moving opt then since, opencv, ros, etc are installed there
[00:58] <Dr_willis> i dont even do any development work.. and 30gb for my whole system would be a bit tight. ;)
[00:59] <Dr_willis> but i do have like 20+gb of just wallpapers and icons ive collected over the years.
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> 20 gigs of wallpapers would take a long time to look through
[01:01] <Dr_willis> i got them from my amiga days collection even. :)
[01:01] <Dr_willis> back then a 600x400 image was Huge. ;P
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> cool
[01:01] <Dr_willis> 16 color leetness!
[01:02] <nickgermaine> i created a new user because my initial one got corrupted.  now i can not sudo in the new account, i get: hey, i can't sudo, I get this error in my new user account: nickgermaine is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[01:02] <nickgermaine> disregard the "hey, i can't sudo, "
[01:03] <Dr_willis>  you have to add the user to the proper group.
[01:03] <nickgermaine> ok thanks
[01:03] <Dr_willis> how did you create the user?
[01:03] <nickgermaine> through the user interface in xfce
[01:03] <Dr_willis> i still have to wonder what 'got currupted' in the original user.
[01:03] <Dr_willis> you dident delete the origial user did you>
[01:04] <nickgermaine> thanks i got me added
[01:04] <mikodo> Would a stripped down XP in a VB .vdi, be safe even after EOL. I'll of course make a snapshot of the original to replace the production one, if/when it hoses. Should reduce the resources used than the Windows 7 .iso I have. Right, or will it not really matter much, as long as I have the horse power, which I do? I guess I could follow a guide to strip down Windows 7 too?
[01:04] <nickgermaine> i don't.  i didn't really do anything, it was fine, then it started crashing ever since 13.04
[01:04] <nickgermaine> everything was fine in 12.10
[01:04] <nickgermaine> anyway thanks i got it fixed, didn't know that was a "group" lol
[01:05] <Dr_willis> nickgermaine,  reset their settings in theor home back to defaults via renameing the .config and other setting files (or move them to some backup dir)
[01:05] <nickgermaine> yah i cleared the ./cache and ./config directories and it fixed it for a day
[01:05] <nickgermaine> thanks you guys
[01:05] <nickgermaine> cherio
[01:08] <xlucky> hello
[01:08] <Dr_willis> mello
[01:11] <green> anyone figured out how to fix screen rolling on 1920x1080 yet?
[01:11] <xlucky> dr_willis what's mello means
[01:11] <BlackDalek> does qjoypad work in ubuntu 13.10? If so, where is the setup option gone?
[01:13] <green> anyone figured out how to fix screen rolling on 1920x1080 yet?
[01:14] <Dr_willis> rolling meaning what exactly?
[01:14] <Dr_willis> 1920x1080 works fine here
[01:14] <green> from bottom to top the screen rolls
[01:15] <BlackDalek> According to documentation on sourceforge http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/doc/c113.html I should be able to click the tray icon and get a setup menu... this option however is not present at all in the menu. What went wrong?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> BlackDalek,  on Kde or unity?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> the system tray icon has been  undergoing changes int he last few releases. its possible the app is using the old 'system tray' and not the indicator-applet method that it should be using these days
[01:17] <overdub> green, that would make an awesome screen saver, old school analogue cathode ray tube out of adjustment effect
[01:18] <green> overdub makes it almost impossible to read though
[01:20] <BlackDalek> Dr_willis, unity... the icon is present in the indicator-applet "tray"... I searched and can't find evidence that anyone else has had a problem with qjoypad in 13.10... maybe it is just me?
[01:21] <BlackDalek> Dr_willis, the icon is there, just right clicking it or left clicking it gives me exactly the same menu (not the setup menu).
[01:24] <wad> My church has a bunch of ancient PCs in a computer lab, running Windows 2000, but they can't get decent browsers anymore for that OS. I would like to recommend they convert them all to Ubuntu. Problem: The ISO I downloaded doesn't fit on a CD-ROM, it's too big. Is there a smaller version somewhere?
[01:25] <Dr_willis> 12.10+ comes on dvd. and requires a PAE kernel.  You can install from USB, or 12.04 still fits on a cd.
[01:25] <Dr_willis> oops a PAE enabled CPU i mean. ;)
[01:26] <wad> These computers won't be able to boot to anything but a CD.
[01:26] <xangua> wad: you think ubuntu can run on one of that ancients pc that came with windows 2000/millenium/whatever installed¿ there are Xubuntu and Lubuntu
[01:27] <wad> I'll download a 12.04, stick it on a CD, and try that. :)
[01:27] <Dr_willis> for an OLD pc.. you may want to use Lubuntu
[01:28] <Jeaton> ive upgraded to 13.04 and now im having issues with gnome classic not killing the processes when I close them out
[01:32] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, Sorry for earlier, willammanda got my "Thank you sir" when I thought I had tabbed to you. Just noticed now. Thank you, sir!
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> hehe, ;)
[01:34] <mikodo> wilee-nilee, I read the guide. It will be very helpful. :)
[01:35] <Jeaton> sorry, by processes I mean firefox
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> mikodo, Seems thorough, I looked through others and have some others saved.
[01:39] <erpo> When I examine /etc/resolv.conf, it tells me not to edit the file by hand because it will be overwritten. What should I edit to change my DNS servers, then?
[01:39] <erpo> Nevermind. Answered my own question.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> i just use the network manager gui to change them
[01:40] <Dr_willis> or set my router to hand out the ones i want to use. :)
[01:40] <erpo> Dr_willis: This is on a headless home server with a static IP, not using DHCP in any fashion.
[01:41] <Dr_willis> network manager has settings for that also i recall and a cli interface.
[01:41] <Dr_willis> but my router can assign a static ip based on MAC :) so i dont need to do it tht way either.
[01:42] <erpo> Dr_willis: The correct answer in my situation, in case the NSA is listening and needs to reconfigure something, is to edit the appropriate dns server line in /etc/network/interfaces.
[01:43] <NSA_Listening> You're correct!
[01:44] <erpo> NSA_Listening: Glad to help.
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Newt Salvation Alliance?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> ;P
[01:45] <erpo> The Newt Salvation Alliance is always listening.
[01:46] <NSA_Listening> Aka Nobody Say Anything
[01:51] <Corey> [1]KissMyAss: If you could stop /nicking to offensive things in here, it would be appreciated. :-)
[01:51] <[1]KissMyAss> im testing my new nick
[01:51] <[1]KissMyAss> thanks
[01:51] <Corey> [1]KissMyAss: Unfortunately, your current nick falls afoul of channel guidelines here.
[01:52] <Corey> !guidelines | [1]KissMyAss
[01:52] <[1]KissMyAss> oh let me change it
[01:52] <[1]KissMyAss> thanks
[01:52] <Corey> [1]KissMyAss: Much appreciated, thanks.
[01:53] <AutoMatrix> Hi folks, good day, wherever you are ;)
[01:53] <NSA_Listening> Keep changing it, I am documenting. :>
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> lol
[01:53] <[1]howabouthis> lol, i love it!
[01:53] <[1]howabouthis> u sound like a tea party guy
[01:54] <AutoMatrix> question : Is it possible to use an USB-ram-stick to 'enlarge' the working memory in ubuntu ? - I'mworking on an Aspire One and that thing is that slow ...
[01:54] <[1]howabouthis> u should be happy the gov has everything they need to protect u
[01:54] <Corey> !ot
[01:55] <[1]howabouthis> AutoMatrix you should read all the manuals
[01:55] <Dr_willis> You could put a swap partition on the ram.. or a swap file.. but that may be a bit extreme
[01:56] <Dr_willis> swap on the usb - :)
[01:56] <bindi> isnt that what windows lets you do?
[01:56] <AutoMatrix> Thanks Dr_willis
[01:56] <Dr_willis> use of a swap partition/file is commonplace
[01:56] <Corey> AutoMatrix: Not explicitly. Swap or ramdisk really. :-)
[01:56] <Corey> Er, sorry, ramdisk doesn't apply to your question.
[01:57] <Dr_willis> windows has that weird faster-boot-thing for usb/sd/ but  it seems tobeen a lot of marketing hype tht no one every users
[01:57] <AutoMatrix> bindy that's possible but I ain't no Windoze on my engines
[01:58] <AutoMatrix> I'll try to document myself about that
[01:58] <AutoMatrix> that's allready a direction which is more precise than "read all the manuals" ;)
[01:59] <Corey> AutoMatrix: I'm unconvinced that there's a lot of value in "here, have more fakeRAM on a USB 2 bus"
[01:59] <siddhart> Will there be any problem if I have single letter custom commands
[01:59] <Corey> AutoMatrix: A swap file on disk is going to be better than that.
[01:59] <AutoMatrix> Corey, what do you mean ? won't work ?
[01:59] <Corey> AutoMatrix: It'd *work*, it'd just be dog slow.
[02:00] <Corey> AutoMatrix: Accessing your actual drive is going to be a lot faster than using a USB stick.
[02:00] <AutoMatrix> OK got it, Corey , that's a bit what I feared
[02:00] <Corey> AutoMatrix: If you're that constrained, I'd upgrade the RAM if you're able.
[02:00] <erpo> AutoMatrix: Consider replacing your 2.5" HDD with a solid state drive and using it for swap.
[02:00] <AutoMatrix> don't think so, besides it's a ver badly damaged thing ...
[02:01] <AutoMatrix> does not even got a monitor anymore ;)
[02:02] <AutoMatrix> erpo, that could be a way out ... but would you do that, personally ? UI heard those things were damn costly :(
[02:02] <Corey> AutoMatrix: Let's back up a bit. :-)  What's the actual problem you're rying to solve?
[02:03] <AutoMatrix> Corey, speed ! and I'd like to see if this thing is still worth to function as a kismet-server
[02:03] <AutoMatrix> Corey, I'm planning a trip of a couple of thousand miles and would like to be traced by people who careµ
[02:04] <Corey> AutoMatrix: Yeah, throw more RAM into it, it's dirt cheap these days.
[02:05] <AutoMatrix> th0r, hello dear, is it possible we met on the #gpsd or #kismet channels a long time ago ,
[02:05] <AutoMatrix> corey, will do
[02:05] <th0r> AutoMatrix: I doubt it
[02:05] <AutoMatrix> no problem, thor, I wanted just to be sure ;)
[02:08] <erpo> AutoMatrix: Yes, I have an SSD in my laptop. The only reason is that I won it in a raffle.
[02:09] <delac> is compiling from sources only way to fix the imagemagicks "no decode delegate" problem, or is there a easier way?
[02:09] <NSA_Listening> That's how we roll :)
[02:09] <AutoMatrix> erpo>> I'mnot a native english speaker, so I guess you will haave to explain the raffle thing in your  last answer :)
[02:10] <erpo> AutoMatrix: I won it. I played a game of chance and received the SSD as a prize.
[02:11] <erpo> AutoMatrix: I paid no money for it.
[02:11] <AutoMatrix> nice prize, erpo !
[02:15] <Di> ronaldo
[02:15] <Di> hey
[02:16] <Di> hola
[02:20] <Di> hey
[02:24] <Di> wtf
[02:24] <aperture> I installed my ati driver incorrectly and now after decrypting the drive on bootup the system hangs. Any ideas on a fix?
[02:25] <aperture> I can't even go into alt+f2 the system crashes too fast
[02:25] <Jordan_U> Di: Do you have a support question?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> aperture, You get a grub prompt right?
[02:26] <aperture> wilee-nilee: no, I get the ubuntu startup and the prompt to decrypt. That's about it
[02:26] <aperture> Once the system crashes I'm presented a scren with a blinking underscore
[02:26] <aperture> *screen
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> aperture, and ctrl-alt-f1 does not get you a tty?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> at the cursor
[02:27] <Jordan_U> aperture: Hold shift during boot (or if this is a UEFI system then press escape about once per second during boot) to get to the grub menu then try the recovery mode entry.
[02:28] <AutoMatrix> jordan >> thanks for that tip, I can use that too
[02:28] <aperture> wilee-nilee: nope, nothing happens at the cursor until I hit the power button and it starts the shutdown sequence
[02:28] <AutoMatrix> jordan >> so glad to see that nothing has changed in so many years I did'nt use XChat ;)
[02:28] <aperture> Jordan_U: when I started up the computer I held down shift the whole time, but that didn't work
[02:29] <aperture> even after decrypting the drive holding shift had no effect
[02:29] <aperture> UEFI is disabled from bios also
[02:30] <Jordan_U> aperture: Does your keyboard work in the boot firmware screens?
[02:30] <aperture> Jordan_U: my keyboard works then, yes
[02:31] <aperture> Keyboard works in bios, ubuntu startup (tested by hitting delete to see the status screen), decryption phase, and after decryption (by doing ctrl+alt+f2 to see a terminal for about 3 seconds before crash occurrs)
[02:32] <aperture> note I'm in a live disc right now, so I do have access to the partition where the os is
[02:32] <Jordan_U> aperture: It's very odd then that holding shift doesn't bring up the grub menu then.
[02:32] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | aperture
[02:32] <aperture> I know. Should the grub menu show before the decryption prompt?
[02:32] <Jordan_U> aperture: Yes.
[02:33] <Jordan_U> aperture: You can force the grub menu to show at boot by creating a file /boot/grub/custom.cfg containing just "timeout=-1" (without the quotes).
[02:33] <aperture> ahh
[02:33] <aperture> I'll do that then, just in case
[02:35] <aperture> Jordan_U: you said in /boot/ right? I have nothing there...
[02:36] <Jordan_U> aperture: Since you have a separate /boot/ partition you need to mount that and the path will be "/mountpoint/grub/custom.cfg".
[02:37] <delac> is compiling from sources only way to fix the imagemagicks "no decode delegate" problem, or is there a easier way?
[02:38] <jrib> delac: what is "imagemagicks no decode delegate"?
[02:38] <jrib> (problem)
[02:39] <aperture> Jordan_U: I see grub.cfg, but not custom.cfg...
[02:39] <Jordan_U> aperture: You need to create the file.
[02:40] <kubotsu> update-grub
[02:40] <aperture> Jordan_U: okay, done
[02:40] <aperture> now I just reboot? and the grub prompt should load?
[02:40] <delac> jrib: imagemagick is a image editing program and the "decode delagates" are something that enable imagemagick to modify different types of images like jpg, png etc..
[02:41] <Jordan_U> aperture: The grub menu, yes.
[02:41] <jrib> delac: yes, but what is the problem you are having?
[02:41] <citric> man this grub issue i had was weird... UEFI w/ windows 8.... odd, but fixed at least
[02:41] <aperture> Jordan_U: Thanks for the help. I'll reboot now and try it out. From there I'll fix the graphics card driver to something more stable
[02:41] <delac> jrib: the imagemagick does have the delegates, but still gives "no delegates" error when editing
[02:41] <Jordan_U> aperture: You're welcome.
[02:42] <jrib> delac: what is your full input and output (use a pastebin)?
[02:43] <synthetix> fuck ubuntu
[02:43] <synthetix> just switched to debian
[02:43] <kubotsu> yay
[02:43] <FoShizz> hi guise
[02:43] <Jordan_U> synthetix: Please watch your language and stay on topic. Good luck with Debian.
[02:43] <kubotsu> there is #debian now for you
[02:44] <synthetix> Jordan_U, thx
[02:44] <FoShizz> how do you, say, autorun a command in terminal on boot up?
[02:44] <synthetix> i feel like i'm back in 2006
[02:44] <synthetix> everything is so perfect :)
[02:44] <jrib> FoShizz: what command?
[02:45] <skuft> fml
[02:45] <FoShizz> x11vnc -safety -pswd
[02:45] <kubotsu> synthetix: you still in #ubuntu
[02:45] <kubotsu> just saying
[02:46] <FoShizz> anyone?
[02:46] <delac> jrib:  http://pastebin.com/iXsuUV1p
[02:48] <FoShizz> Can someone tell me how to autorun a command in terminal upon booting?
[02:49] <Corey> FoShizz: STuff it into /etc/rc.local
[02:49] <FoShizz> in a .txt?
[02:50] <Corey> FoShizz: What? No.
[02:50] <jrib> delac: you're sure your syntax is correct?
[02:50] <FoShizz> In what? This is my 2nd day on ubuntu. I don't know :(
[02:50] <delac> jrib: pretty sure. and it happends on much simpler commands too
[02:50] <madprops> I'm putting this with visudo at the end of the file http://scrot.it/424  yet I get a syntax error
[02:51] <thoonai> heyho
[02:52] <thoonai> how do I get easily a list  of all registered users from my ejabberd?
[02:52] <jrib> delac: what ubuntu version?
[02:52] <FoShizz> corey?
[02:52] <delac> jrib: 12.04
[02:52] <jrib> delac: apt-cache policy imagemagick   output?
[02:53] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Open /etc/rc.local (file) and write your command (line) and save it.
[02:53] <FoShizz> oh ok
[02:53] <FoShizz> how do i do that from terminal?
[02:54] <delac> jrib: http://pastebin.com/QPmAACXY
[02:54] <FoShizz> would i gksudo it since it needs a gui?
[02:54] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: You could use one of the terminal based text editors if you want, like: vi, vim, pico, nano, etc...
[02:55] <FoShizz> would i have to apt-get those?
[02:55] <jrib> FoShizz: you likely don't want to start x11vnc before X comes up so /etc/rc.local will not do you much good iirc
[02:56] <FoShizz> where do i put it then jrib?
[02:56] <jrib> FoShizz: actually, rc.local should be executed last so it might work.  Ideally, you would setup a proper upstart job
[02:57] <FoShizz> please explain? im new.
[02:57] <jrib> delac: is there anything "special" about the input?  I just created a png using scrot and tried your command without any issues.  Albeit I'm on 12.10
[02:58] <jrib> !upstart | FoShizz
[02:58] <jrib> FoShizz: it's probably hard if you are new.  So use rc.local and come back to it when you are able to
[02:58] <FoShizz> cool ill read on it
[02:59] <Corey> FoShizz: What command are you trying to put into rc.local?
[02:59] <delac> jrib: no, I have tried it whit several images of different types. Nothing works.
[02:59] <FoShizz> x11vnc -safer -usepw
[02:59] <Corey> FoShizz: "echo x11vnc -safer -usepw | sudo tee -a /etc/rc.local"
[02:59] <jrib> delac: actually, if out.png does not exist, it does give me issues
[02:59] <FoShizz> would i apt-get install upstart?
[02:59] <Corey> But there's probably an init script for an x11 VNC server. Just sayin'...
[02:59] <delac> jrib: oh?
[03:00] <jrib> delac: use "convert" instead of "mogrify".  WHat happens?
[03:00] <delac> jrib: same
[03:00] <jrib> delac: can you pastebin?
[03:00] <FoShizz> ok i did it corey. im rebooting now
[03:01] <aladdin> heyyyo very nice people! Why virtual terminal is used? By typing ctrl + alt + F1?
[03:01] <jrib> aladdin: you don't have to use it if you don't want to
[03:01] <sebsebseb> hi
[03:01] <tharkun> When is the next LTS scheduled for release?
[03:01] <jrib> tharkun: 14.04 = 2014 april
[03:01] <sebsebseb> tharkun: April 2014
[03:02] <tharkun> jrib, sebsebseb: Thanks :)
[03:02] <aladdin> jrib: what is it used for anyway? Just curious
[03:02] <sebsebseb> tharkun: you're welcome
[03:02] <jrib> aladdin: it's used mostly when your X is broken ;)
[03:03] <delac> jrib:  http://pastebin.com/yDaUdpJz
[03:03] <FoShizz> it didn't work corey. i had to manually start x11vnc
[03:03] <aladdin> jrib: aha. good to know. thanks mate ;)
[03:03] <K350> Is it possible to select several files/directories at the same time in Midnight Commander?
[03:03] <jrib> delac: let me try on a 12.04 machine
[03:04] <Rarrikins> Where is memtest and the DVD check on the latest Ubuntu installer DVD?
[03:04] <Corey> FoShizz: What version of Ubuntu?
[03:05] <FoShizz> xubuntu actually
[03:05] <FoShizz> 12.04
[03:05] <Corey> FoShizz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622843 ggoes into some detail.
[03:05] <jrib> delac: interestingly enough my DELEGATES on 12.10 includes png
[03:05] <jrib> delac: output of « readlink -f $(which convert) »?
[03:06] <jrib> delac: oh yours does too
[03:06] <delac> jrib: as I said
[03:07] <NSA_Listening> Corey: /etc/rc.local has "exit 0" line by default. So if you append to it.. then..?
[03:07] <Corey> NSA_Listening: Ah, that's right, Ubuntu has that set, doesn't it...
[03:08] <jrib> delac: works fine here on 12.04
[03:08] <delac> jrib: what exactly does that readlink do?
[03:09] <jrib> delac: it just follows symlinks
[03:09] <jrib> delac: 8:6.6.9.7-5ubuntu3.2 is my imagemagick package version on 12.04
[03:09] <FoShizz> im not sure if what that thread was doing is what im trying to do. that seemed way more complicated than what i need.
[03:09] <delac> jrib: same as mine
[03:10] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Try this command: "sudo sed -i 's/exit 0//g' /etc/rc.local; sudo reboot"
[03:10] <jrib> delac: i'm on i386 though (on 12.04 anyway)
[03:10] <FoShizz> upstart looks like a bundle of fun to learn as well
[03:10] <delac> jrib: what symlinks did you want me to follow?
[03:10] <jrib> FoShizz: or you know, just place it before the exit 0 line
[03:10] <FoShizz> k
[03:10] <jrib> delac: it was just in case /usr/bin/convert was a symlink
[03:10] <jrib> delac: or whatever your shell runs when you call convert
[03:12] <delac> jrib: well, its not symlink
[03:13] <FoShizz> didn't work again :(
[03:13] <yashwant> my network manager indecator is not available in panel, how to add in panel.Previously it was working but now its stoped workin.
[03:14] <sebsebseb> 1
[03:14] <sebsebseb>  
[03:14] <jrib> delac: what's « file Bootanimation0001.png » look like?
[03:14] <deezed> yashwant: which desktop are you using?
[03:15] <yashwant> ubuntu 10.04
[03:15] <delac> jrib: just a little throbber on black background
[03:15] <sebsebseb> !10.04 | yashwant
ubuntu 10.04
[03:15] <jrib> delac: haha, sorry: what is the output of the command « file Bootanimation0001.png »?
[03:15] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Open the /etc/rc.local and make sure "x11vnc ..." line is there
[03:15] <delac> jrib: lol
[03:15] <sebsebseb> yashwant: 10.04 desktop version no longer supported
[03:15] <delac> jrib: do remember that this happend on all files no matter what
[03:15] <FoShizz> how do i open it?
[03:15] <ericluwolf> yashwat: 10.04 was the greatest wasn't it?
[03:16] <FoShizz> via terminal, that it
[03:16] <FoShizz> is*
[03:16] <FoShizz> just cd /etc/rc.local?
[03:16] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: "cat /etc/rc.local"
[03:16] <FoShizz> whats cat?
[03:16] <Rarrikins> FoShizz: It shows what's in the file.
[03:17] <NSA_Listening> !cat | FoShizz
[03:17] <delac> jrib: but anyway: Bootanimation0001.png: PNG image data, 480 x 800, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
[03:17] <FoShizz> oh ok thanks
[03:17] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: cat - concatenate files and print on the standard output
[03:18] <FoShizz> thanks nsa. also, x11vnc is in the file
[03:18] <delac> jrib:  I'm going to sleep on this and try again tomorrow. Thanks for your help.
[03:18] <yashwant> sebsebseb:ok, but every thing is working fine, I want only network indicator which displays the wifi connection.
[03:18] <jrib> delac: fwiw, the png I tried with was rgba instead of rgb
[03:19] <sebsebseb> yashwant: sure, but no longer supported with any updates, so meant to use something else really, when using it online :d  something that's supported
[03:20]  * sebsebseb goes afk
[03:21] <yashwant> sebsebseb: can u tell me how to use 12.04 version as like 10.04 environment,display and menu as like 10.04.
[03:22] <fabricio> oi
[03:22] <mukti> I have a server running ubuntu 11.04, and it doesn't show japanese characters in the terminal. Is there a specific package I need to install in order to see them properly? Currently, they show up as question marks
[03:22] <fabricio> quale o canal do brasil
[03:23] <fabricio> qual o canal do brasil
[03:23] <tharkun> !br
[03:23] <FoShizz> nsa?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> mukti: oh 11.04 another not supported anymore release as well
[03:23] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Make sure the x11vnc line is correct
[03:23] <sebsebseb> !11.04 | mukti
[03:24] <FoShizz> its correct. checked.
[03:25] <jrib> delac: make sure you don't have an "out.png" too
[03:25] <jrib> i.e. the file does not exist
[03:26] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Then try to reboot, does it work?
[03:26] <trism> mukti: you might need to build the local, ie: echo "ja_JP.UTF-8 UTF-8" | sudo tee -a /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales;
[03:28] <trism> mukti: or you might just need some fonts on your local system
[03:28] <FoShizz> no im still having to go to terminal and enter it.
[03:29] <mukti> trism: that would allow me to continue using en_US.UTF-8 (or whatever I'm currently using), right? It would just add it as another supported locale?
[03:30] <trism> mukti: yep, you'd still have the en locale, though it depends on what you're looking at, swiching to ja_JP.utf-8 will work fine for most command output
[03:31] <trism> mukti: but if you are looking at files, they may be in shift_jis, so may still look garbled with some work
[03:31] <PuFFs> Is there an RPD for ubuntu to get to a Window Server machine remotly?
[03:35] <FoShizz> nsa?
[03:36] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: I am checking it on my machine right now, just for the sake
[03:37] <FoShizz> thanks you
[03:45] <w30> PuFFs, Ubuntu comes with a RDP application in a standard install.
[03:46] <PuFFs> w30: Alright Thanks
[03:47] <w30> PuFFs you can RDF, ssh, cifs, ftp all you want
[03:53] <xxsashixx> rawr
[03:54] <sporks> lubuntu  intial boot login and password?
[03:55] <sporks> tried lots of combinations
[03:55] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: It didn't work as expected. I found a better approach here: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-display-manager
[03:55] <FoShizz> arn't you supposed to set those up during the initial install?
[03:56] <sporks> usb live cd
[03:56] <FoShizz> ok thanks nsa. will read.
[03:57] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: It looks promising
[03:58] <FoShizz> ok ill try it out.
[04:07] <FoShizz> im unable to find xsetup anywhere
[04:07] <FoShizz> http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#infaq_display-manager-continuously
[04:07] <FoShizz> I have no xdm folder.
[04:09] <FoShizz> Any luck with you nsa?
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> sporks, You should not need to login, check the sum on the ISO and try another usb loader if it's good.
[04:10] <jak_> hi all
[04:10] <jak_> hi all
[04:11] <sporks> wilee-nilee, it's a unetbootin direct iso download
[04:11] <jak_> "ARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: " link to fix? I think this is a common issue but I cannot find an answer
[04:11] <sporks> thumb drive is good
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> sporks, I would download again from lubuntu and load the ISO. Unetbootin should work, a login is not part of the release for a live setting.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> sporks, YOu could just download the mini and do a netload as well.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> ! mini
[04:13] <jak_> ?
[04:15] <jak_> how to tor router irc?
[04:15] <FoShizz> NSA_Listening: I found both xsession and xinitrc, but i think I'll go with xinitrc. Do i just slap x11vnc -safety -usepw in? The directions are a bit vague for my untrained eye.
[04:16] <sam113101> are 64 bits operating systems supposed to work on virtualbox?
[04:16] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: You could go with .xinitrc
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, You might try #vbox as well.
[04:19] <FoShizz> ok. do i simply add the commands i want>
[04:19] <FoShizz> ?
[04:22] <FoShizz> On the website you linked to there seemed to be some extra information. "x11vnc -logfile $HOME/.x11vnc.log -rfbauth $HOME/.vnc/passwd -forever -bg"
[04:23] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Just put your line there and try it out, these additional parameters are for x11vnc script.
[04:24] <FoShizz> ok thanks. i looked up the additional parameters and i think i will add them in too.
[04:27] <FoShizz> upon trying to save i get "cannot open file to write"
[04:27] <FoShizz> should i try in a terminal?
[04:31] <FoShizz> ok i did it. time to reboot!
[04:34] <FoShizz> no dice :(
[04:37] <NSA_Listening> FoShizz: Look at this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick#X11VNC_Server
[04:41] <usuario> hola
[04:43] <FoShizz> hola
[04:45] <JewInSheepsCloth> any way to use wireshark to view all network traffic on the same router as my computer? i know how to "live capture" all the traffic from my computer, but not the whole network, i am trying to see what other traffic may be on my router other than my iphone and my comp.?
[04:45] <FoShizz> NSA it just won't work :(
[04:46] <FoShizz> jewinsheepscloth i believe live capture gets everything on your netork.
[04:47] <JewInSheepsCloth> FoShizz: nah because i was doing a live capture of all available and it didnt see my iphone hooking up on you tube
[04:48] <FoShizz> was berkley backet filter on? BPF?
[04:48] <FoShizz> was your phone on 3G/LTE?
[04:48] <JewInSheepsCloth> nah the same raouter man
[04:48] <JewInSheepsCloth> *router
[04:49] <JewInSheepsCloth> FoShizz: its cool because i need to learn everything about tcp ip protocol anyway , i am a dummy on this computer thing , its amazing that i evn running ubuntu .
[04:49] <JewInSheepsCloth> FoShizz: actually i never would be able this ubuntu thing without this irc channel
[04:50] <FoShizz> So you are sure you have zero filters on?
[04:50] <JewInSheepsCloth> nah i am running the gufw .. i will figure it out , its like a 1st grader asking einstein to explain quantum theory to them
[04:51] <FoShizz> yea lol. im still having problems of my own as well. still new to xubuntu.
[04:52] <JewInSheepsCloth> FoShizz: same boat we all learn 4 life . lke Einstein said , when the universe ceases to be interesting its time for you to die
[04:53] <FoShizz> yep. best of luck you you.
[04:53] <JewInSheepsCloth> FoShizz: be around later bll cheers
[04:53] <FoShizz> foshizz !upstart
[04:54] <jmurrib21> what ubuntu version would be better to install in an Everex laptop with via processor?
[04:54] <FoShizz> how old is your laptop?
[04:55] <jmurrib21> like 2006
[04:55] <FoShizz> run xubuntu or lubuntu.
[04:56] <FoShizz> lubuntu is the fastest, but has the least eye candy
[04:56] <jmurrib21> ok
[04:57] <madprops> I would install Ubuntu minimal and install a desktop environment manually
[05:07] <savio> Hello All
[05:07] <javier_> hola alguien me puede ayudar con emacs?
[05:07] <javier_> me baje https://github.com/kaustavdm/emacs-dev-kit
[05:08] <javier_> pero no se como instalarlo y hacerlo funcionar
[05:08] <Traxie21> Hello, I would like some clarafication on something that seems kind of strange.
[05:09] <cobalt237> Is there any reason why a computer won't boot off a usb-created created USB if i select USB from the boot menu?
[05:09] <aloominum> /part/
[05:10] <Traxie21> allominum: if the computer does not support USB-2.0 booting, if the kernal  is not on the right partition,
[05:10] <Traxie21> I'm running off a Live USB right now, and installing a Static USB
[05:10] <Traxie21> What happens when you try to boot the USB-created drive?
[05:11] <Traxie21> ah, aloominum, see above
[05:12] <lasers> !spanish | javier_
[05:15] <Traxie21> Help please, Administrator question: I am trying to install to a USB drive on a laptop.  Everything is fine, but the live environment I am on does not detect my brightness or battery, so my screen is on full brightness and I do not know how much battery is left
[05:15] <Traxie21> I know it will not last more than 3- 3 1/2 hours
[05:16] <paws> in ubuntu, can i just add LoadModule h264_streaming_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_h264_streaming.so to my apache2.conf ?
[05:16] <paws> because i dont see any other loadmodule lines in my conf..
[05:16] <lasers> Traxie21: Not an admin here, but try "acpi -V" to see your battery status.
[05:17] <Traxie21> lasers: Thanks, trying
[05:18] <Traxie21> lasers: acpi is not installed, and I'm getting an unusual error when I try to install it.  I guess this is what I get for trying to work at 12:15 AM :I
[05:19] <lasers> Traxie21: Ha. Okay. :o
[05:20] <Traxie21> 6 bash processes in monitor, I only opened one terminal :O
[05:21] <lasers> Traxie21: "aptitude search laptop" -- You might be interested in having laptop-detect laptop-mode-tools
[05:21] <lasers> (For your USB)
[05:21] <Traxie21> lasers: WTH? My installation details are picking up data on the flash and acpi installs.... erm
[05:21] <Traxie21> does the details submenu just echo everything from bash?
[05:23] <Traxie21> How do I force aptitude to reset? Its throwing an error because of a failed flashplayer installation and its keeping me from doing anything else with it.
[05:25] <lasers> Traxie21: What error?
[05:26] <Traxie21> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5750628/    Looks familiar, but I cant place it :I
[05:27] <lasers> Traxie21: Yikes. Do you have Software Manager/Update Manager/etc open right now?
[05:27] <lasers> If not... Try this (and cross fingers).
[05:27] <lasers> !aptfix
[05:27] <Traxie21> nope.  This is all I have open. Firefox, Installer, Terminal
[05:29] <lasers> Traxie21: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136881/unable-to-install-due-to-debconf-problem
[05:29] <Traxie21> lasers: unknown event
[05:29] <Traxie21> Ah, tyvm!
[05:30] <lasers> Traxie21: Fixed?
[05:31] <Traxie21> lasers: Idk, I just like to thank people :3
[05:31] <lasers> :3
[05:32] <Traxie21> lasers: Alright, it appears fixed, althought I didnt do all the steps XD
[05:32] <lasers> Traxie21: Great! Could be from !aptfix. ;)
[05:32] <Traxie21> lasers: !aptfix returned error: bash: unknown event :P
[05:32] <lasers> Traxie21: (No, from the command in !aptfix).
[05:33] <Traxie21> oh
[05:33] <Traxie21> 1:31 of battery left
[05:34] <daya> what is the name of Text based insaller of ubuntu , is it debian installer, or ubiquity or something else
[05:34] <lasers> Traxie21: Yikes. That's like 10 minutes in linux world. Better get on it with your installation.
[05:34] <daya> I am trying to integrate ubuntu installer in base system, composed by debootstrap command
[05:34] <Traxie21> Carp: My leg is asleep and the charger is across the house...
[05:35] <Traxie21> brb
[05:37] <shadej> i have installed postfix on ubuntu 13.04  but the command mail is not working?
[05:39] <Traxie21> Have you configured it? </never used postfix before>
[05:40] <shadej> Traxie21:  I just followed the configration on the official website
[05:41] <Traxie21> shadej: What does the mail command output?
[05:41] <shadej> Traxie21: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[05:41] <shadej> it asks me to install :sudo apt-get install mailutils
[05:42] <Traxie21> shadej: Afaik, you need both postfix and mailutils installed
[05:43] <shadej> Traxie21: ok thanks
[05:45] <Guest92705> anyone have a preference between oracle and openjdk
[05:45] <shadej> Traxie21:  what softwares are in the mailutilities?
[05:45] <Traxie21> No idea :3
[05:45] <shadej> ok
[05:46] <Traxie21> I wouldnt be afraid of it being malicious though
[05:46] <Guest92705> or does anyone have an opinion on the which java to go with
[05:47] <ikonia> Guest92705: it depends on the application and what it supports best, do a little research
[05:48] <Guest92705> ikonia: I have, but I haven't seen anything that anyone seems to lean towards.  It is for android development and currently it seems as if it goes both ways
[05:48] <Guest92705> not asking here because I didn't look
[05:48] <shadej> after installing mail server on my ubuntu, how can i test it from remote computer?
[05:50] <paws> shadej: send an email to it :)
[05:50] <paws> or telnet to mail server
[05:51] <lasers> Guest92705: You might have better in android(and/or android-dev) channels -- /msg alis list *android*
[05:51] <lasers> s/better/better luck
[05:52] <Guest92705> lasers: thanks, they are part of my research.  I just wanted to see if others in a different group actually leaned anywhere.  I was ready to get oracle, but figured I would ask one last time before finishing
[05:52] <lasers> Guest92705: Understood. :)
[05:53] <shadej> paws:  am testing it from my computer now
[05:53] <shadej> but the command mail is not working
[05:53] <shadej> it says u dont have permission
[05:53] <param___> hello channel, i am not able to sudo apt-egt update my ubuntu os due to proxy settings
[05:53] <ikonia> Guest92705: then pick one and dive in
[05:53] <paws> shadej: you gotta give us more info than that..
[05:54] <shadej> paws: i have installed both postfix and mailutils
[05:54] <shadej> now i want to send mail from root to guest
[05:54] <shadej> but it is not working
[05:54] <param___> paws can you solve my issue
[05:55] <paws> shadej: you mentioned you got an error.. can you paste it somewhere..
[05:56] <param___> use pastebin for copy paste :)
[05:56] <param___> paste.ubuntu.com
[05:56] <shadej> paws:  the eror is when i issue the command being logged in as guest i am gettting the error message:
[05:56] <shadej> Cannot open mailbox /var/mail/guest: Permission denied
[05:57] <paws> param___: you edited /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy ?
[05:57] <Traxie21> bye guys, thanks for the help!
[05:58] <paws> shadej: and you created that mailbox ?
[05:58] <param___> o paws i didnt
[05:58] <paws> param___: where did you tell apt to look for proxy?
[05:58] <shadej> paws: i can not remember that
[05:58] <shadej> may be the mailutils must have done that
[05:59] <param___> i did on etc/profile
[05:59] <param___> i did on etc/bas.bashrc
[05:59] <paws> shadej: i dont think mailutils have done it.. just check it and make sure permissions are set properly
[05:59] <param___> and ran export proxy command on terminal
[06:00] <paws> param___: i think you have to add a Acquire::http::Proxy line
[06:00] <shadej> paws:  am i going to check permission for /var/mail folder?
[06:00] <param___> in 01proxy file ?
[06:01] <paws> i think so, param___
[06:01] <paws> Acquire::http::proxy "http://User:Password@host:port/";
[06:01] <paws> should look like something that
[06:01] <param___> let me give a try
[06:01] <param___> i am not even to ping even
[06:02] <paws> i think u might get away even if u add that line in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[06:02] <paws> param___: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23666/apt-get-does-not-work-with-proxy
[06:03] <shadej> paws:  i hv changed the permission for /var/mail now  the permission denied error is gone
[06:03] <shadej> but the mail command is not doing its task
[06:04] <shadej> i can not see the message i sent
[06:08] <shadej> mail command not working help?
[06:09] <h22> guys, My dad's old server has neither a display nor LAN access.. I wish to install ubuntu on it...  Should I be using something like __Fully automated install__ ?
[06:10] <ikonia> h22: no
[06:11] <ikonia> h22: you will need either a display or lan access to do this realistically
[06:11] <h22> What should I be doing?
[06:11] <ikonia> you'd need to do pressed installs without either, but for one machine that would require significant effort
[06:12] <h22> I thought FAI [06:12] <ikonia> FAI ?
[06:12] <ikonia> ls -la
[06:12] <ikonia> oops
[06:12] <h22> fai-project.org
[06:12] <ikonia> I have no idea what that is,
[06:13] <ikonia> it's not an ubuntu project so it's up to you if you want to try that or not
[06:14] <shadej> i have installed postfix and mailutils on ubuntu 13.04 but mail command is not working
[06:14] <shadej> ?
[06:14] <ikonia> please define "not working"
[06:14] <shadej> ikonia:  i can send message with no error
[06:15] <shadej> but when i issue the command mail
[06:15] <shadej> it says no mail for root
[06:15] <ikonia> shadej: what is the exact command you are issuing
[06:15] <shadej> ikonia:  in order to see my inbox just "mail"
[06:16] <ikonia> ok - so do you have mail waiting for you ?
[06:16] <ikonia> and why are you the "root" user ?
[06:16] <ikonia> the root user should be locked on ubuntu
[06:16] <shadej> ikonia:  i did logged in to root intentionaly
[06:16] <shadej> so that i can send mail from guest to root
[06:16] <shadej> and see the message from root
[06:17] <ikonia> shadej: sorry, I'm still not seeing a problem
[06:17] <ikonia> shadej: you have no mail waiting for you....that is not a problem
[06:17] <shadej> ikonia: but i must havfe
[06:17] <ikonia> why must you have ?
[06:18] <shadej> because i sent a mail from guest to root
[06:18] <shadej> ikonia: because i sent a mail from guest to root
[06:19] <ikonia> shadej: do you know it got there ?
[06:19] <ikonia> shadej: do you know it was processed ?
[06:19] <vantage> Hi, I just did a fresh install of 12.04, then upgraded to 12.10, then to 13.04. I can't seem to get sound working at all. When I open sound preferences it just closes.
[06:19] <shadej> ikonia: no
[06:19] <shadej> ikonia: i just checked postfix
[06:19] <ikonia> shadej: then I say again "there is no error"
[06:19] <shadej> and it is working
[06:19] <ikonia> shadej: please define "working"
[06:20] <shadej> ikonia:  i telnet to it
[06:20] <ikonia> shadej: and ?
[06:20] <shadej> and i got the responses
[06:20] <ikonia> shadej: that does not mean it's working
[06:21] <shadej> ikonia: OMG how should i check it then
[06:21] <ikonia> shadej: with a valid mail test
[06:22] <shadej> ikonia:  tell me if you know it please
[06:22] <shadej> i have been searching the web for 2 days
[06:22] <ikonia> there are various tests, you can try to send mail with a telnet test, you can send mail and verify it with the logs,
[06:23] <shadej> ikonia:  just tell me the commands
[06:23] <ikonia> no
[06:23] <shadej> am new to ubuntu
[06:23] <ikonia> shadej: there are many documented tests on the web
[06:23] <ikonia> I'm not googling them for you
[06:30] <goddard> whats the best way to install xmonad
[06:31] <sobczyk> hi, is it safe to stop online resize of ext4 parttion?
[06:32] <diverdude> How are commands actually saved in terminal command history? Quite often i find that commands I know i have written cannot be found using CTRL+R. Why?
[06:33] <ikonia> they are read from the bash_history file
[06:33] <ikonia> (assuming your using bash)
[06:33] <sere> ikonia: if your not willing to help then why say anything at all? and if you wanna be respected i would try treating people with respect first
[06:36] <matanya> sobczyk: not really
[06:36] <Jordan_U> diverdude: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/088
[06:39] <sere> shadej: hand tight and im sure someone will help you... dont let one ignorant person push you away.. this is a great place to get help and help others
[06:40] <shadej> sere: hah.. ok
[06:40] <Ben64> it's really not that hard, google for telnet mail test and there are millions of results
[06:43] <sere> Ben64: i agree.. google is my best friend but when he could have just pulled a link or told him how to fix it .. instead a saying google it or getting into a jerry springer debate is just wasting peoples  time
[06:43] <ikonia> sere: sorry, if I'm not willing to help with what ?
[06:43] <Ben64> ikonia: you don't want to walk someone through testing a mail server with telnet
[06:43] <sere> not everyone knows how to use google too
[06:44] <Ben64> probably shouldn't be running a mail server if you can't google
[06:44] <ikonia> sere: they have setup a mail server, I'm sure they are capable of googling "mail server telnet test"
[06:44] <ikonia> or words to that effect
[06:44] <Ben64> there are already enough open relays around
[06:45] <ikonia> sere: I've explained that his tests are not valid, given him two test senarios and asked him to google the exact commands for one as I'm not going to do it for you....that is helped him, if he can't google with that level of info, then running a mail server is not a good idea
[06:45] <shadej> Ben64: i checked my mail server using telnet
[06:45] <Tare> Hey guys!!! could you  pls help me problem with " A plugn is needed to display this content install plugin" I cann't use youtube
[06:45] <ikonia> sere: you're welcome to give him the exact commands after you've googled for him
[06:45] <ikonia> Tare: flash plugin ?
[06:46] <ikonia> shadej: what command did you use to test your mail server
 flash player is aleady installed but getting suffer
[06:46] <shadej> telnet localhost 25 (says connected) EHLO howdy.com (returns a bunch of 250 codes) MAIL FROM: somebody@blah.com RCPT TO: (use a real email address you want to send to) DATA (type whatever you want on muliple lines) . (this on a single line tells Postfix that the DATA is complete)
[06:46] <ikonia> Tare: flash player is quite unreliable like that, I'd consider using the html5 test
[06:46] <ikonia> shadej: that is not a valid test
[06:47] <ikonia> shadej: unless I have missunderstood and you've put a valid email address in for root and setup an alias
[06:47] <ikonia> as you're testing mail getting sent to root, correct ?
 is there any additonal plugin for ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[06:47] <shadej> ikonia:  when i finish i get the message:250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 6E414C4643A
[06:47] <ikonia> Tare: not really no, that's why I'd suggest using the youtube html5 site
[06:47] <ikonia> shadej: ok - queued, not deleivered
[06:48] <ikonia> delivered
[06:48] <ikonia> but I'll pass you over to sere now to finish resolving this
[06:48] <sere> ikonia: i never said i knew the anwser to his problem ..you did and refered him to google
[06:50] <sere> ikonia: blowing smoke up peoples *** will get you no where
[06:50] <ikonia> sere: please be quiet, if you are unable to see that I've provided him the answer - you really have no clue, and please don't star out words, it's clear you know they are bad, so don't use them as we all know what you typed
[06:51] <sere> ikonia: you can use you imagination then ***
[06:51] <ikonia> sere: please don't do it again.
[06:51] <gogi112> русско говорящие есть?
[06:52] <ikonia> !ru | gogi112
[06:52] <gogi112> Ikonia thx
[06:56] <sere> ikonia: from the guidelines up top...Telling people to "RTFM" or to "just google it" is not very polite. Ideally, you should find them a link, or at least give them some directions to documentation they can use. when helping be helpful....thanks
[06:58] <ikonia> sere: I told them neither, so again, please stop
[07:01] <sere> ikonia:  we can all just scroll up and see what you said.. i am done however i said what i had to say and not going to waste any more time on you.. i suggest you read the guidelines
[07:02] <IdleOne> sere: channel ops are dealing with it. We appreciate your concern.
[07:03] <sere> IdleOne: thanks
[07:03] <tuxtoti> I'm trying to start mysql..and i keep getting "start: Job failed to start" .
[07:03] <tuxtoti> dmesg shows this:
[07:03] <tuxtoti> [11397430.200890] type=1400 audit(1370846481.577:72): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/mnt/vol-database/mysql/ip-192-168-1-52.lower-test" pid=9017 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[07:04] <tuxtoti> what is requested_mask="c" ?
[07:04] <tuxtoti> create permissions?
[07:04] <shadej> can any one help me how to test postfix mail server?
[07:05] <sere> shadej: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[07:06] <tuxtoti> oh..and if it helps.. i have a soft link "/var/lib/mysql" pointing to "/mnt/vol-database/mysql" and running out of a EBS volume in aws.
[07:07] <shadej> sere: thank you am reading it
[07:07] <sere> shadej: your welcome
[07:07] <user9202> I have nvidia geforce Go 7400 chipset on HP pavilion dv6000.  Problem:  Nvidia drivers from Additional Drivers" run horribly slow.  Only 59.5fps with glxgears.  Solution?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> tuxtoti: Are you using the mysql executable / libraries packaged with Ubuntu or something else?
[07:09] <user9202> "available drivers" gives options for nvidia drivers 173, 96 and current.  173 and current are SLOW.
[07:09] <tuxtoti> Jordan_U: packaged with ubuntu. "mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.31, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.2"
[07:09] <tuxtoti> "
[07:10] <user9202> I checked nvidia download site and found driver 304.88 for Linux 64bit.  If I compile this driver, will ubuntu updates conflict?
[07:11] <thunder1212> i need help configuring  printer
[07:12] <user9202> thunder1212:  Your printer model and ubuntu version?
[07:13] <Ben64> user9202: you should not use the driver from the site
[07:14] <user9202> Ben64, I'm woried ubuntu kernel upgrade will cause a crash.  I'm going back to the neuveau driver i think.
[07:15] <Ben64> user9202: the 304 driver is in the repository, you should use that one
[07:15] <thunder1212> user9202, canon mf3010 ubuntu 13.04 64bit, i have downloaded the drivers from canon website
[07:15] <IdleOne> sere: Please join #ubuntu-ops for a minute if you have time
[07:16] <kanupatar> hi , is there any tool in ubuntu to view the subversion(svn) files like windows?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> tuxtoti: Well, I've found http://tanghus.net/2012/03/yet-another-mysql-vs-apparmor-barf/ but I don't know that their solution is a good idea, or will help in your case. I'm still looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/986892 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/810270 to see if there's helful info there.
[07:16] <kanupatar> in gui?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> tuxtoti: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and are all your packages completely up to date?
[07:19] <tuxtoti> Jordan_U : DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS"
[07:20] <thunder1212> user9202, ?
[07:20] <tuxtoti> Jordan_U: not sure of all the packages but installed mysql-server through apt-get.
[07:21] <Jordan_U> tuxtoti: There is a possibility that the problem is fixed by package updates, so try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to be sure all your packages are up to date.
[07:23] <goddard> my laptop has "turbo mode" in windows i hit a button and it bumps on the speed of my cpu. Does ubuntu have something like that or is it just automatic?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> goddard: How old is this machine? I haven't seen a "Turbo mode" button in decades.
[07:24] <Joschii> hi
[07:24] <goddard> Jordan_U: lots of the i7 laptops have that
[07:25] <dimend> hello everyone new ubuntu user in here
[07:26] <dimend> is there someone that could help me out?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> goddard: I'm curious. Would you mind posting a picture of this button?
[07:27] <shadej> i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto#Install_Postfix
[07:27] <shadej> to install mail server on ubuntu
[07:27] <shadej> but mail command is still not working properly
[07:27] <shadej> ?
[07:28] <dimend> someone having familiarity with MATE that could assist me?
[07:29] <dimend> nobody?
[07:29] <Jordan_U> dimend: MATE isn't in the Ubuntu repositories and isn't supported here unfortunately.
[07:30] <TheM> is xchat-gnome a fork of xchat?..
[07:30] <dimend> well I just need some advices... I've installed it already (I'm actually speaking  from it right now)
[07:31] <shadej> i am sending mail from root to guest and vis versa but when i issue the command it says "no mail for root"
[07:31] <dimend> would you think that possible?
[07:31] <Jordan_U> dimend: Try #mate.
[07:31] <dimend> thanks!
[07:31] <Jordan_U> dimend: You're welcome.
[07:31] <thunder1212> there is no error anywhere in configuring the printer but the print doesnt take place
[07:31] <dimend> #mate
[07:32] <dimend> hoped would have worked...
[07:32] <Jordan_U> dimend: "/join #mate" (without the quotes)
[07:32] <dimend> brilliant! thanks I'm a fresh user need a bit of time for acknowledge all the shortcuts
[07:54] <goddard> how do i install nvidia drivers the new ones?
[07:55] <goddard> jockey isn't coming up in the search
[07:55] <auronandace> goddard: the additional drivers is part of software sources now
[08:05] <demonoid_me> Where is the location of thunderbird log file?
[08:09] <demonoid_me> exxoooo
[08:09] <demonoid_me> Where is the location of thunderbird log file?
[08:11] <otak> probably in ~/.thunderbird/<something>.default/ImapMail/.  It depends on your settings
[08:12] <urbanonymous_> hey guys, howto ligin?
[08:12] <urbanonymous_> login*
[08:12] <demonoid_me> otak: 10x
[08:14] <urbanonymous_> please !register urbanonymous
[08:14] <Leepic> is there anyone with a Radeon HD4870 who has fan speed issues with 13.04?
[08:15] <rohan> how can i stop a running command, I am trying to kill but it is not stop. what should i do?
[08:16] <demonoid_me> otak: i have some virus that sends mails
[08:16] <demonoid_me> otak:  and i dont know how to remove it this virus
[08:16] <NSA_Listening> rohan: Send a signal to a process, ex. kill -s STOP [PID]
[08:18] <rohan> thanks NSA_Listening
[08:25] <PlastikSpork> I just did an update & upgrade on my raspberry pi running Raspian.... I use my Pi as a webserver... after doing the upgrade, MySQL failed to start, I rebooted and tried again with out any success.   Here is the terminal output from the upgrade http://pastebin.com/uBGLTyp0
[08:25] <somsip> PlastikSpork: it's not supported here. Go to the Raspi forums for advice
[08:26] <chrisirc> I need to install an old computer that seems to be unable to boot the new kind of iso images that can be dd'd to USB flash drives.
[08:26] <roadkill> PlastikSpork: Raspian =/= Ubuntu
[08:26] <chrisirc> It booted grml2usb w/o problems. But grml2usb doesn't seem to be able to process ubuntu images afaict.
[08:26] <somsip> roadkill: what language is that??
[08:26] <chrisirc> What should I do?
[08:27] <roadkill> somsip: =/= means "is not like
[08:27] <chrisirc> (s/grml2usb/a flash drive that contained a grml image written using grml2usb/)
[08:27] <roadkill> or is not equal to
[08:27] <somsip> roadkill: I guessed that. In what language?
[08:27] <roadkill> somsip: Internet.
[08:28] <shadej> i am using postfix as mail server
[08:28] <shadej> message is queued but not delivered
[08:28] <shadej> what si the problem
[08:28] <roadkill> somsip: Also "real life" as crossing an = sign is fairly universal.
[08:28] <CalimeroTeknik> it's ≠
[08:28] <somsip> roadkill: never seen that before. != is much more common. 'is not' would be the most sensible way
[08:29] <CalimeroTeknik> unicode has it
[08:29] <roadkill> somsip: "!=" is much more common only amongst programmers.
[08:29] <CalimeroTeknik> compose, /, =
[08:29] <Daniel0> ! = does not equal etc
[08:29] <somsip> roadkill: true - I thought that's what you were trying to show. Anyway...well OT
[08:30] <Daniel0> used it like 3 times today
[08:30] <Daniel0> :D
[08:30] <roadkill> somsip: Do a google image search for "is not equal to symbol" and you'll find tons of examples. http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/images/inequality.gif
[08:30] <somsip> roadkill: no thanks - I have more important things to do
[08:30] <roadkill> somsip: Like bicker about a common symbol on IRC?
[08:31] <somsip> roadkill: I asked a question and admitted I was OT. EOT for me.
[08:33] <roadkill> somsip: Yet you're still responding. You tried to say "you've never seen that before" while following it up with an affirmative of my explanation. How would you know what I said was true if you've never seen it before? And yet, you keep responding when you have "more important things to do." Just admit it, you were trying to pretend you knew better and got caught on it.
[08:36] <joel135> Hi, I'm cross-compiling a program. I get "checking for i386-linux-gnu-gcc... no" when ./configuring. I've tried to google things like '"i386-linux-gnu-gcc" install' but to no avail. What should I do? The program is fuse.
[08:36] <jony_easyrider> can someone confirm that the CANON LBP6020 is working with Ubuntu?
[08:37] <llutz> joel135: you are on amd64? sudo apt-get install gcc:i386
[08:39] <roadkill> jony_easyrider: should be in the gcc packages. you can get them installed by typing sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:39] <joel135> llutz, thanks. I tried gcc:<tab><tab> before but it wouldn't give me anything
[08:39] <llutz> !multiarch | joel135
[08:40] <jony_easyrider> roadkill, I didn't bought the printer yet, so I want a confirmation, or some information about this
[08:40] <llutz> joel135: because that :i386 isn't part of the packagename. it's just the notation to get 386-packages installed in amd64 installations. multiarch support needs to be configured
[08:40] <joel135> ok. thanks again
[08:40] <roadkill> jony_easyrider: I missent my reply to you bt accident. This is what I could find on your printer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[08:41] <roadkill> joel135: should be in the gcc packages. you can get them installed by typing sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:42] <roadkill> joel135: A rough outline of what's included in the build-essential package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/build-essential
[08:42] <roadkill> It's all the essential packages needed for building in debian/ubuntu
[08:42] <jony_easyrider> roadkill, I have LBP6000 and it's working with Ubuntu, but I wonder if LBP6020 will working too
[08:43] <roadkill> jony_easyrider: If the LBP6020 mentions anywhere CAPT support, it likely will as that's Canon's proprietary driver for Linux
[08:44] <rstefanov> hello
[08:44] <rstefanov> is there a repo for php 5.5? i would like to update 5.4 to 5.5 ?
[08:44] <poee> hi, I installed the nvidia gt 620 drivers from ppa sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates, but now the resolution is limited 1024x860 something. how do i increase the resolution?
[08:44] <jony_easyrider> roadkill, yes, the LBP6020 is CAPT too like my existing LBP6000
[08:44] <zend> Hello! Have someone experience with setup cups on ltsp`s thin clients? :)
[08:45] <somsip> !info php5 | rstefanov
[08:45] <somsip> rstefanov: so if you want to go to 5.5 you will probably need a PPA, but...
[08:45] <somsip> !ppa | rstefanov
[08:45] <roadkill> somsip: He's not asking for definitions, he's asking if there's a PPA for 5.5
[08:46] <rstefanov> sigh, so no official repo yet for 5.5 somsip ?
[08:46] <roadkill> You can spam all you want, you're still not really answering his question.
[08:46] <somsip> rstefanov: like the info says, no
[08:46] <rstefanov> damn i hate dealing with ppas
[08:49] <admin0> hi.. i want to log all my ssh remote sessions, so that i can keep track of what my command did, what was the output etc
[08:50] <admin0> how do I do that ?
[08:50] <rohan> how can I know current runing command? I am using "ps aux" command. when I killed a process by "kill -c stop [pid]", when i gave a command "px aux" but it is showing in the list
[08:50] <admin0> not the command history, but all output also
[08:50] <Jordan_U> admin0: The command "script" might be helpful.
[08:51] <histo> admin0: I believe screen can do logging as well
[08:51] <somsip> admin0: tee?
[08:51] <histo> admin0: yeah I think screen would be the way to go
[08:53] <histo> admin0: or ssh someuser@someserver | tee -a somelog       will do it if you don't want to use screen
[08:53] <thunder1212> hi
[08:53] <admin0> that would do i guess .. I don't want to use screen .. or switch from tmux .. but most of the time would be just ssh user@host
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> rohan: is the process a zombie?
[08:53] <clcto> i thought tmux was generally considered better than screen
[08:53] <llutz> admin0: start each new session with: script $(date +%y%m%d-%H%M)-session.log    to get full logs ofin-/output
[08:54] <histo> admin0: Here is a few options http://www.jms1.net/ssh-record.shtml
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> clcto: both have advantages
[08:55] <thunder1212> ji
[08:55] <thunder1212> hi
[08:56] <zatan> hey I have got lenvoo keyboard is there anyway change FN function to normal ? that Pressing 'F8' key will behave like a F8. Pressing 'fn'+'F8' will act as special key (play/pause)
[08:56] <clcto> zatan: its in bios
[08:57] <clcto> usually
[08:57] <zatan> clcto, I could see anything in there
[08:57] <admin0> thanks guys .. tee -a logfile  is the best option it seems for me
[08:57] <clcto> zatan: couldn't? or could
[08:57] <histo> clcto: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Screen_vs_tmux
[08:57] <zatan> claude2_, couldnt
[08:59] <music> hello
[09:00] <admin0> hmm..  ssh user@host | tee -a logfile .. works fine ..  when I use mosh user@host | tee -a logfile .. it does not work fine .. but for me, it will still be useful
[09:00] <bray90820> If you create a GPT Partition in windows can you view it in ubuntu
[09:00] <Jordan_U> bray90820: Yes.
[09:01] <bray90820> Good
[09:01] <bray90820> what about MBR
[09:02] <clcto> bray90820: yes
[09:02] <bray90820> hum
[09:02] <bray90820> what would you recommend for a 4tb backup drive
[09:03] <clcto> gpt, partition sizes are limitted to 2gb in mbr iirc
[09:03] <clcto> 2tb
[09:03] <bray90820> so i should use MBR
[09:03] <bray90820> no
[09:03] <bray90820> let me resay that
[09:03] <bray90820> should i use GPT
[09:03] <clcto> MBR stores partition sector information using 32-bit LBA values. This LBA length along with 512 byte sector size (more commonly used) limits the maximum addressable size of the disk to be 2 TiB. Any space beyond 2 TiB cannot be defined as a partition if MBR partitioning is used.
[09:04] <clcto> from archwiki
[09:04] <bray90820> So GPT?
[09:04] <llutz> bray90820: so yes, you need to use gpt
[09:04] <clcto> so i guess you just cant create a partition past 2tb
[09:04] <bray90820> ok
[09:04] <bray90820> gpt it is
[09:04] <cariveri> hi. background and emblems not showing anymore, what to do?
[09:05] <clcto> or idk exactly how to interpret that
[09:05] <clcto> emblems?
[09:05] <cariveri> clcto: yes the symbols. in xfce they are called emblems.
[09:06] <bray90820> Another question
[09:06] <bray90820> can Ubuntu see software raid volumes created in windows
[09:07] <Baribal> Hi. I'm running 12.04 (just installed and upgraded) and am trying to create a USB stick to install 13.04 (64bit). However, running it as user, the "Make startup disk" button is unselectable, and "erase disk" resulsts in: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.dbus.exceptions.DBusException: com.ubuntu.USBCreator.Error.NotAuthorized". Running as root (sudo usb-creator-gtk) allows me to "Make Startup Disk", but after a while the program just exits (after the "i
[09:07] <Baribal> nstalling the bootloader" status bar) without comment or notice of success. *Did* I just create a valid startup disk? Or did the program just crash? And why won't it work when running as user?
[09:08] <bray90820> can Ubuntu see software raid volumes created in windows
[09:08] <Jordan_U> Baribal: While I don't know why you're having the problems you are, you should not run GUI programs with sudo; use gksudo instead.
[09:08] <davcbz> i'd use virtualbox
[09:08] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Baribal
[09:08] <cariveri> clcto: the desktop settings seem not to be effective anymore. is rm ~/.cache/sessions and .../.config a good idea?
[09:09] <Jordan_U> bray90820: What type of software RAID?
[09:09] <bray90820> Raid 0
[09:09] <clcto> ~/.config is used for multiple applications usually
[09:09] <Jordan_U> bray90820: I mean, is it FakeRAID, Windows Dynamic Disks, something else?
[09:10] <bray90820> hum
[09:10] <bray90820> I am not sure
[09:10] <poee> can anyone please help me with monitor resolution issues due to nvidia display driver?
[09:11] <aum> hi - i've installed xserver-xorg-video-intel to run the 82865G intel GPU chip on my box, but can't get Unity 3D working - have I missed something?
[09:11] <Jordan_U> bray90820: How are you creating the array?
[09:11] <cariveri> clcto: ~/.config/xfce4/
[09:12] <bray90820> Ahh nevermind looks like it's hardware raid
[09:12] <clcto> idk what the issue is, sorry
[09:12] <bray90820> so i will just create a simple volume
[09:12] <bray90820> fat32 would be ok right
[09:12] <bray90820> it prob would be
[09:13] <clcto> bray90820: just go with ntfs
[09:13] <bray90820> but i want to use it with ubuntu
[09:13] <clcto> fat32 4GB filesize limits
[09:13] <bray90820> ubuntu works with NTFS?
[09:13] <clcto> bray90820: yes
[09:14] <bray90820> What ate the NTFS limitations in ubuntu
[09:14] <clcto> none
[09:14] <Jordan_U> bray90820: It's rare that people have hardware RAID and don't know it. True hardware raid is very expensive.
[09:14] <histo> bray90820: I wouldn't be performing disk checks in linux with NTFS is all
[09:14] <clcto> thats probably not exactly true but you can read write
[09:14] <clcto> fat32 doesnt even have partitions
[09:14] <histo> clcto: yes it does
[09:14] <clcto> permissions
[09:14] <clcto> is what i meant
[09:15] <histo> lol
[09:15] <bray90820> I do have Hardwar raid i payed like $200 for this box
[09:15] <clcto> its 3am ...
[09:15] <bray90820> 4AM for me
[09:15] <Jordan_U> bray90820: If you only payed $200 for the motherboard then it almost certainly does not have true hardware RAID, but rather FakeRAID.
[09:15] <bray90820> It's an external box
[09:16] <bray90820> With esata
[09:16] <Jordan_U> bray90820: OK, then it likely is true hardware RAID, in which case the OS doesn't need any special support as it will appear like any other drive.
[09:17] <bray90820> Yes
[09:17] <histo> bray90820: You can use MBR with 4096 sector sizing to get around the 2TB limit if you need to. But I would just go with GPT  which should be supported by Windows Vista and up
[09:18] <bray90820> I went with GPT
[09:18] <histo> bray90820: Now you just have to decide on filesystem
[09:18] <bray90820> Yes
[09:18] <clcto> ntfs
[09:18] <histo> bray90820: You can read ext3 in windows with added in driver.   Or you can read ntfs in linux with added in driver so choice is yours
[09:19] <Jordan_U> histo: bray90820: ntfs-3g has been shipped with almost all distros for years now, so it's odd to call it an "added in driver".
[09:19] <bray90820> I will prob create it as NTFS back everything up then restore it in ubuntu and then switch it to ext3 and rebackeverything up
[09:20] <histo> bray90820: why?
[09:20] <bray90820> Why not
[09:22] <snyp> why do you release daily builds?
[09:23] <OerHeks> snyp, only the development version provides daily builds.
[09:23] <bray90820> What would be better for ubuntu ext3 or ntfs
[09:24] <knoxxs> \LIST
[09:25] <histo> snyp: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <snyp> How do I get the build version of an app using apt-get so that it gracefully installs and uninstalls using apt-get?
[09:26] <snyp> s/get the build/build the latest
[09:26] <Jordan_U> bray90820: If you're only considering use by Ubuntu, then ext3 is better (supports *NIX style permissions, can be repaired in Ubuntu, probably better performance).
[09:27] <histo> snyp: if you want to build from source and use apt-get you can use something like checkinstall.  However you will find most recent apps in the repos
[09:27] <histo> bray90820: ntfs has issues with high cpu usage with large files and dealing with fragmentation
[09:28] <snyp> histo, hmm... so the in-between-LTS versions get the latest versions of apps as they are released?
[09:28] <Ben64> !latest | snyp
[09:28] <histo> snyp: close to it
[09:28] <fat> i have asus silent en210 silent graphics card. please help, how do i install the drivers for this?
[09:29] <histo> snyp: if you want bleeding edge apps run a distro like arch or debian unstable
[09:29] <bray90820> histo: when you say large files how big are you talking
[09:29] <clcto> arch ftw
[09:29] <histo> bray90820: you would have to conduct your own testing to determine the impact on cpu usage on your system. It's just a known issue
[09:29] <bray90820> Alright
[09:30] <snyp> arch's latest policy broke my system, so i am back to lubuntu
[09:30] <bray90820> because i have some movies that are like 4GB
[09:30] <histo> snyp: you will find that ubuntu is quite up to date though on the non lts releases
[09:30] <histo> snyp: what the move from /bin ?
[09:30] <snyp> yeah
[09:30] <clcto> snyp: did you read the news?
[09:30] <histo> snyp: That happens from time to time with arch that is why you need to read their news page prior to updating Syu
[09:31] <snyp> i like lubuntu though, and i am not moving to arch anytime soon
[09:31] <histo> snyp: What is it that you want something that is stable or cutting edge?
[09:31] <snyp> just want bug-free app
[09:32] <thunder1212> hi i am unable to print from ubuntu 13.04 help !
[09:33] <thunder1212> neither local nor through router printing is happening
[09:33] <thunder1212> my router has a usb port and i can connect the printer and print from my windows laptop over wifi
[09:33] <thunder1212> but the same is not possible from ubuntu?
[09:34] <snyp> histo, if a bug is reported, there's a chance it will get fixed in an update right?
[09:34] <thunder1212> even if i connect the printer locally to the ubuntu machine i am unable to print
[09:34] <thunder1212> i have the linux driver downloaded from the canon website but still i am not able to print
[09:34] <snyp> that is sort of my reason for newer versions of apps..
[09:34] <Ben64> thunder1212: right, we got it, you can't print. if you give us some information we might be able to help you
[09:35] <chrisbuchholz> Hey guys, how do i get a custom upstart service to start on boot?
[09:35] <thunder1212> there is no error configurint the printer anywhere, it also accepts the command but does not print
[09:35] <thunder1212> Ben64, Ok
[09:35] <thunder1212> Ben64, the printer is canon mf3010 i am running ubuntu 13.04 amd 64bit router is dlink dsl2750u
[09:37] <thunder1212> Ben64, There is no problem configuring the printer, no error or anything drivers have a 64bit deb file so no problem installing them but the printing does not occur?
[09:38] <Baribal> Can somebody confirm or deny that usb-creator-gtk simply exits silently when a boot/install stick is successfully created?
[09:39] <Ben64> thunder1212: try this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems
[09:43] <fat_> i have an ASUS EN210 silent graphics card driver for my ubuntu. how do i install these drivers? please help
[09:49] <vl4kn0> Hi, I was using the latest LTS but I found it unbearably slow, I switched over the fedora which was slow but not as much but then after upgrading to the latest version it got slow too, I thought to myself I had to have slow computer or something so I switched back to ubuntu (the newest stable version) that I will upgrade some harware components if it's going to be really bad. To my surprise it now runs amazingly fast and smooth, probably better than ever before
[09:50] <histo> vl4kn0: most likely video driver issues
[10:04] <mselvara> Do we have any Home Theater product which is running on Android?
[10:17] <anamana> Anyone know why Samsung Galaxy Note 2 headphones broke within 4 months of owning them?
[10:18] <liher_> tengo un problemilla con los graficos, alguien puede ayudarme?
[10:18] <somsip> anamana: this channel is for ubuntu support. That question doesn't belong here
[10:20] <anamana> Do you know of any andorid help channels?
[10:20] <DJones> !alis | anamana
[10:21] <cfhowlett> anamana, #nexus4 has a channel and I believe there's an #android as well.
[10:21] <anamana> Thanks guys
[10:28] <hens> giloooo
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <FloodBot1> hens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <hens> fuck u
[10:29] <FloodBot1> hens: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <somsip> !ops
[10:30] <cfhowlett> !ops|hens,  smite please
[10:30] <DJones> Already gone
[10:31] <contrapunctus> You do this for a living, cfhowlett? ;)
[10:34] <cfhowlett> contrapunctus, multi tasking ... downloading my books, planning classes and keeping one eye on the stream ...
[10:37] <JPeterson> is there a mirror that has the old min iso? that are missing links here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:38] <DJones> JPeterson: Which version are you trying to get?
[10:39] <JPeterson> DJones: amd64 11.04 and earlier
[10:39] <urbanslug> hey guys. Do any of you know if I can create and run a .c/.cpp file in vim and run it without compiling it?
[10:40] <DJones> JPeterson: They're end of life so have probably been removed, you may be able to find a torrent for them, but I doubt it'll be listed on the ubuntu webiste
[10:40] <JPeterson> DJones: is the APT archive online for them?
[10:40] <clcto> urbanslug: you cant run c without compiling
[10:41] <clcto> urbanslug: what are you trying to do?
[10:41] <urbanslug> clcto wow okay thanks. And when I make changes to the file I have to recompile?
[10:41] <clcto> yes
[10:43] <histo> JPeterson: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:43] <DJones> JPeterson: I wouldn't like to say, presumably the repo's for 10.04 will still be there to give the server version (which doesn't go eol until April 2015), but I wouldn't expect to find anything else prior to 12.04
[10:43] <histo> JPeterson: No you can't get eol releases via net install
[10:43] <histo> JPeterson: all though there is old-releases.ubuntu.com repo
[10:44] <histo> JPeterson: is there a reason you want to net install a version that isn't supported?
[10:44] <urbanslug> clcto sorry my irc  app keeps crashing.
[10:44] <JPeterson> histo: this problem https://github.com/mirror/vmware/issues/6 "`export MAKEFLAGS=-j2` hang `vmware-vmx` at max cycle use" that doesn't occur in 2.6.32-5-amd64
[10:44] <clcto> you need to recompile
[10:45] <iamaboy> hello every
[10:45] <iamaboy> hello everyone
[10:45] <iamaboy> ?
[10:45] <histo> !who | clcto
[10:45] <urbanslug> clcto I am trying to find a way to run my cpp or c files without compiling like I do with an ide like codeblocks
[10:45] <urbanslug> clcto  but using vim
[10:45] <histo> !downgrade | JPeterson
[10:45] <iamaboy> !hello
[10:46] <clcto> urbanslug: pretty sure codeblocks compiles on the fly in the background, dont know how to do that in vim. but write a makefile
[10:46] <clcto> and it will only compile what has changed, not everything and then in vim you can !make
[10:46] <histo> !info linux-image-generic lucid | JPeterson
[10:47] <histo> JPeterson: lucid is still supported on server for a little while.  Also there  is http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[10:47] <urbanslug> clcto so I can run :make! in vim or something?
[10:47] <histo> iamaboy: we can see you
[10:47] <clcto> urbanslug: i think it is just :make yes
[10:47] <iamaboy> !histo realy?
[10:47] <clcto> it will let you jump to the errors in the code too i believe
[10:47] <clcto> havent used it in a while
[10:48] <clcto> ubottu: but you need a makefile first
[10:48] <urbanslug> clcto the make will keep me from re-compiling?
[10:48] <donttrustem> hi guys, I just update the 12.04 distro and get a black screen with flashing cursor.  I have done a ctrl+alt+f1 but now stuck on what to do
[10:48] <clcto> urbanslug: ^^
[10:48] <iamaboy> i'm very happy
[10:48] <histo> iamaboy: yes stop using !
[10:48] <clcto> urbanslug: no, if you write a good makefile, it will only recompile the files that have changed
[10:48] <donttrustem> I think it is a video driver issue ...
[10:49] <iamaboy> oh, sorry ,i go to here the first time,
[10:49] <donttrustem> do I need to update kernel headers or somehting
[10:49] <urbanslug> clcto okay I'll read a little about writing a make file. I am totally new to this.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> donttrustem: what video chip do you use/
[10:49] <urbanslug> clcto I hope making the make file won't be too complex.
[10:50] <clcto> urbanslug: they arent too bad and they can be generally reused
[10:50] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, think it is nvidia...
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> donttrustem: did you upgrade the OS files within Precise, or did you upgrade from Oneiric or Lucid to get to Precise?
[10:50] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, it was working fine until I just updated the distor
[10:51] <iamaboy> histo: oh, i'm sorry , i'm the first time to go to here
[10:51] <donttrustem> Precise
[10:51] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, I am in the cli
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> donttrustem: but were you changing release, or did you already have Precise and just run regular updates?
[10:51] <clcto> urbanslug: something like https://github.com/clcto/utile/blob/master/makefile but that isnt perfect by any means
[10:51] <iamaboy> histo: can you see my message?
[10:52] <DJones> iamaboy: Yes the channel can see what you're typing, if you have an Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it
[10:52] <urbanslug> clcto many thanks. let me look at it.
[10:52] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, I was running precice and carried out a normal apt-get update then upgrade then I updated the distor itś self
[10:53] <urbanslug> clcto that make file is just made of the commands you give when compiling.
[10:53] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, I ran a apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:54] <clcto> urbanslug: pretty much. but it only runs g++ -c on the .cpp files that have changed ...
[10:54] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, it is running 12.04.2 LTS 3.2.0-45-generic-pae
[10:54] <iamaboy> DJones: oh, it's very  good, yes, i have some questions, but i don't good at english, could i speak chinese?
[10:55] <DJones> !cn | iamaboy
[10:55] <DJones> iamaboy: There is #ubuntu-cn for support in Chinese language, this channel is English only, hope that helps you
[10:55] <NSAl> Q: How to convert a PNG to BMP bitmap, not the Windows V5 tho, but earlier version?
[10:55] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, how can I get back into the gui to change the video driver back to the original or do I have to update kernal headers or something
[10:55] <urbanslug> clcto is the process different when I want to create .c  files?
[10:56] <ur0pl> hi
[10:56] <sergchsr3> learn english is very fun and easy
[10:56] <iamaboy> DJones: year, it's very useful, thanks very much ,
[10:56] <urbanslug> clcto scripts are a ton easier to work with. I see why people (including me) like them now.
[10:56] <ur0pl> is there a hotkey to switch between workspaces?
[10:56] <clcto> not particularly, you change the compiler and such.
[10:56] <NSAl> Q.1: Using imagemagick. My command looks like this so far: imagemagick convert example.png -alpha off example.bmp
[10:57] <urbanslug> clcto I really thought that c uses the gcc compiler. I use the gcc compiler and it works for both.
[10:57] <clcto> ur0pl: most open source programs will have a makefile of some sort, and it depends a lot on the scripting language. knowing how to wrtie a makefile is good if you want to do any developing
[10:58] <clcto> gcc is c, g++ is c++. gcc will not compile a c++ file iirc
[10:58] <ur0pl> cic, huh?
[10:58] <clcto> urbanslug: not ur0pl above
[10:58] <ur0pl> i meant on the desktop
[10:58] <ur0pl> oh
[10:58] <ur0pl> k
[10:59] <clcto> ur0pl: but i think it is ctl-alt-arrow key
[10:59] <ur0pl> alt+ctl arrows seem to do it
[10:59] <ur0pl> yeah
[10:59] <ur0pl> thanks
[11:01] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, I am now stumped on what is causing the problem .... how can I roll back
[11:02] <ejv> ubuntu, I'm proud of you. there's a mysql update and instead of interrupting mysql service, you held it back; you've come so far my child.
[11:02] <thunder1212> i have a dlink dsl2750u router which has a usb port and print server functionality but i am unable to print
[11:03] <NSAl> How to convert PNG to BMP using "convert"?
[11:03] <Ben64> convert foo.png foo.bmp
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> donttrustem: hold SHIFT at boot and select the previous kernel
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> NSAl: convert filname.png output.bmp
[11:04] <clcto> does ubuntu have mariadb, jw
[11:05] <jrib> NSAl: convert foo.png bar.bmp
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> NSAl: its that simple, there are tonnes f guides online for the convert command too....
[11:05] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, I have managed to get to the gui ... strange I just rebooted
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> donttrustem: screw it then :)
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:05] <NSAl> ActionParsnip: But I need the BMP to be BMP3. It converts it to BMP5
[11:06] <donttrustem> ActionParsnip, but it is using the generic driver .... I can´t remember where I changed it before
[11:07] <Ben64> NSAl: have you googled it? I found it in 10 seconds
[11:09] <NSAl> Ben64: I am on a not very comfortable device to use Google atm :>
[11:10] <Ben64> NSAl: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/formats.php
[11:11] <NSAl> Ben64: Thx
[11:16] <meet> on 13.04, during startup I just get the default blue stripped wallpaper for 5-10 seconds then my desktop is shown.no splash image is visible during start up. is this by default?
[11:17] <AlexPortable> hi
[11:17] <AlexPortable> Suddenly my printers are gone, what to do?
[11:18] <clcto> AlexPortable: did someone steal them?
[11:18] <AlexPortable> how can someone steal software?
[11:19] <AlexPortable> If I click print I an only see 'print to file'
[11:19] <clcto> AlexPortable: i was joking ... you just said they were gone, not from 'print dialog'
[11:20] <AlexPortable> thats what i meant
[11:20] <donttrustem> when I check in addtional driver nothing is displayed
[11:21] <donttrustem> I am running 3.2.0-45-generic-pae
[11:24] <pac-man_> hola
[11:24] <pac-man_> servidor o canal de ubuntu en español?
[11:24] <DJones> !es | pac-man_
[11:24] <pac-man_> ok tank you
[11:24] <pac-man_> jaja
[11:24] <DJones> You're welcome
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> NSAl: anything in the man page?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> NSAl: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16259
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> NSAl: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=imagemagick+convert+to+BMP3
[11:28] <Pac_Man> Hello, I have some problems with squid3 i do not know if anyone can help me?
[11:30] <Pac_Man> DJones,  You've used squid3?
[11:30] <accc> hi
[11:30] <DJones> Pac_Man: Soryy, I haven't, if you don't get an answer here or in the Spanish channel, you could also ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:32] <Pac_Man> ok
[11:32] <drun2> Hi all. How i can bind any function on extra-buttons of my mouse?
[11:32] <drun2> sorry for engish
[11:33] <clcto> drun2: do they report in xev?
[11:33] <darkmutt> any way to increase brush/line/pencil size in kolourpaint??
[11:35] <drun2> clcto: I dont know, what is it )
[11:35] <in0cula> how to secure the privacy in ubuntu, not send data to canonical or amazon etc?
[11:36] <drun2> Standart function of this extra-buttons - its "move up" or "down", and i have a config file
[11:36] <Pac_Man> I want to mount a proxy server, to have free internet in my cell, I do not know if anyone knows, already configure squid3 but I do not know how to enable that supports the connection of the phone
[11:36] <clcto> drun2: open a terminal and run xev | grep -i button and then in the window that popped up use the mouse buttons and see if anything shows up in terminal
[11:38] <clcto> http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/xev-determine_custom_keybindings this is for keyboards but it is similar
[11:40] <Pac_Man> clcto,  i'm sorry you know something about squid3
[11:40] <clcto> i know they are tasty
[11:40] <clcto> but no
[11:40] <drun2> clcto: xev | grep -i dont work.
[11:40] <drun2> becouse need a template [file]
[11:42] <AlexPortable> anyone?
[11:42] <drun2> clcto: Sry, i dont write a "button"
[11:46] <AlexPortable> anyone?
[11:46] <Pac_Man> AlexPortable,  hi
[11:46] <Pac_Man>  you know something about squid3
[11:49] <histo> !ask
[11:49] <histo> AlexPortable: add your printer
[11:50] <histo> !anyone > Pac_Man
[11:52] <Pac_Man> histo,  what?
[11:53] <histo> Pac_Man: Just ask your question not if someone knows about it
[11:56] <Pac_Man> As he asked then?
[11:56] <Pac_Man> histo,
[11:57] <Pac_Man> Don't know anyone here, that is why I am asking that if anyone knows
[11:57] <Pac_Man> I could not ask for help?
[11:59] <mok0> Pac_Man: What is your question?
[12:01] <Pac_Man> Took me days wanting to make a proxy server in ubuntu 1304 with squid3, what I really want is to provide internet to my cell phone through a proxy, i don't know if I explain, I use a translator, I don't know much english
[12:01] <Pac_Man> mok0,
[12:03] <mok0> Pac_Man: And what is the problem with setting up squid?
[12:04] <cariveri> clcto: Hi. I found the problem. nautilus is not started in order to handle the desktop. thus the desktop is not loaded. as soon as I start one instance of nautilus the desktop appears. though I think thunar should be assigned or anything else
[12:07] <cariveri> does anyone know how to set a file browser to handle the desktop?
[12:07] <cariveri> I use the xfce desktop
[12:09] <dmavroid> Hello, i have posted my problem on ubuntu forum with topic : "Hp Pavilion g6 AMD radeon HD 6400M/7400M Problem" if someone can help i will really appreciate it
[12:09] <samgabbay> Hey Guys Sam from the QATeam is here to help
[12:09] <samgabbay> dmavroid: explain your issue :)
[12:09] <Rickardo1> I'm trying to connect to my samba share from osx but get authentication failure.. I have followed the guide.. security = user
[12:10] <samgabbay> dmavroid: if its the graphics then you cant fix it cause i have the same issue and so far amd has dropped support and the open driver doesent work
[12:10] <dmavroid> samgabbay: i have a prblem with ATI/AMD drivers installation
[12:10] <Pac_Man> The problem is that it is not, how should I configure it to allow access, for example, that you're only in it to the IP and port, and you can use my proxy
[12:10] <Pac_Man> mok0,
[12:10] <dmavroid> samgabbay: if i install another distro of linux?
[12:11] <adamk> dmavroid: What's the problem?  Didn't I help you with graphics issues last week?
[12:11] <mok0> Pac_Man: Did you look at the documentation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html
[12:11] <samgabbay> dmavroid: i dont think it will fix it because there almost from all the same root but what do you needthe drivers for
[12:11] <samgabbay> adamk: they dropped support with amd soooooo theres no fix man
[12:11] <dmavroid> adamk: Yes you helped me and thank you but...no the problem is not fixed :S
[12:11] <adamk> Well what's the problem?
[12:12] <mok0> Pac_Man: you need to put your access rules in /etc/squid/squid.conf
[12:12] <samgabbay> dmavroid: are you trying to speed up the unity search cause i have a fix for that
[12:12] <dmavroid> samgabbay: i have no unity thats my problem :P
[12:13] <samgabbay> dmavroid: did yoyu try to install the driver ????
[12:13] <Pac_Man> If i make, but in all of the tutorials explain how to allow access to the computers on your network, but does not say how to allow access to any IP that you want to connect
[12:13] <adamk> dmavroid: unity should work fine with the open source drivers...  It should also work fine with the legacy catalyst driver, or the current catalyst driver.
[12:13] <dmavroid> samgabbay: ooo yes!!!
[12:13] <samgabbay> adamk: it doesent work
[12:13] <adamk> Sure it does.  I've used it.
[12:13] <adamk> dmavroid: What GPU, and what driver are you currently using?
[12:13] <samgabbay> dmavroid: i did the samething as you and yes it ruines unity just reinstall ubuntu without installing the drivers
[12:14] <AlexPortable> histo: Why did it got removed?
[12:14] <samgabbay> adamk: you cant fix it cause its mobility radeon and its not compatible with the open drivers i suggest using the default ones
[12:14] <dmavroid> adamk: it works with xorg but not with fglrx drivers. i also tryied to install the drivers manually and i get a message saying ""the system is running at low graphics
[12:15] <adamk> dmavroid: Wait, you have a hybrid GPU, right?
[12:15] <dmavroid> samgabbay: ok but i have an overheating problem as well
[12:15] <samgabbay> dmavroid: i did the same and dude theres simply no way to fix it just reinstall ubuntu and do not install the drivers but if you wanna speed up your unity i have something here for tyou to do after your installation http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV
[12:15] <M4he> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and want to permanently toggle the way my 'fn'-key on the keyboard works. "echo 2 > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode" does the trick temporarily but if I try to put "options hid_apple fnmode=2" into /etc/modprobe.d/apple.conf it is not set at bootup.
[12:15] <samgabbay> dmavroid: is the issue after installing the graphics?
[12:16] <dmavroid> adamk: yes!!!!
[12:16] <dmavroid> samgabbay: yes!
[12:16] <mok0> Pac_Man: Look in the document I quoted above, point 3.)
[12:16] <samgabbay> dmavroid: reinstall ubuntunlike i sayd
[12:16] <adamk> dmavroid: Right, and my final suggestion was to use the intel GPU and turn off the radeon GPU using ACPI.
[12:16] <samgabbay> dmavroid: i did the same and dude theres simply no way to fix it just reinstall ubuntu and do not install the drivers but if you wanna speed up your unity i have something here for tyou to do after your installation http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV
[12:16] <Pac_Man> If i put acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
[12:17] <adamk> Why reinstall Ubuntu?  Just remove the proprietary drivers...
  Screw it... I'm done with this conversation.
[12:17] <samgabbay> adamk: you cant dude
[12:17] <dmavroid> samgabbay: do you have an overheat problem as well?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> M4he: could add the command in /etc/rc.local
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> M4he: above the exit 0 line
[12:17] <Pac_Man> 2013/06/10 06:17:17| ERROR: '0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0' needs to be replaced by the term 'all'.
[12:17] <Pac_Man> 2013/06/10 06:17:17| SECURITY NOTICE: Overriding config setting. Using 'all' instead.
[12:17] <samgabbay> dmavroid: no but i had no unity and my fix was to simply reinstall everything from scratch
[12:17] <M4he> ActionParsnip: Thank you! I will try that.
[12:17] <samgabbay> and speed up the unity search and system with this paste i made here http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV
[12:17] <mok0> Pac_Man: You want to give all IPs access?
[12:18] <M4he> ActionParsnip: when you say command, you mean the echo line, don't you?
[12:18] <Pac_Man> yes
[12:18] <dmavroid> samgabbay: i will do that thank you mate! thank you a lot
[12:19] <samgabbay> dmavroid: pleasure but like i said dont forget to do this to have a faster unity
[12:19] <samgabbay> http://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV
[12:19] <samgabbay> :)
[12:19] <Pac_Man> I want you or any user of any party can connect
[12:19] <samgabbay> dmavroid: im sorry theress no way to fix it other than reinstall but follow the pastebin and it should be better
[12:19] <samgabbay> :)
[12:19] <mok0> Pac_Man: You should probably put "acl all src all"
[12:19] <samgabbay> dmavroid: i tried myself to install the graphics and it never works for mobility radeons cause there not compatible with the opensource drivers
[12:20] <mok0> Pac_Man: The first "all" is just a name
[12:20] <dmavroid> samgabbay: okok! i have spend one week on this thing and i was ready to drop linux and go back to windows..but if this works it will be my pleasure to stay with the team. is there any possibility that amd will fix the problem?
[12:20] <mok0> Pac_Man: The second "all" replaces "0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0"
[12:21] <dmavroid> samgabbay: any suggestion for the temperature? i have heard for jupiter should i try it?
[12:22] <Pac_Man> WARNING: (B) '::/0' is a subnetwork of (A) '::/0'
[12:22] <Pac_Man> 2013/06/10 06:21:54| WARNING: because of this '::/0' is ignored to keep splay tree searching predictable
[12:22] <Pac_Man> 2013/06/10 06:21:54| WARNING: You should probably remove '::/0' from the ACL named 'all'
[12:22] <samgabbay> dmavroid: eventually and hopefully but for sure in the next upgrade because im from the qateam and il try doing hardware testing for the upcoming os in september but without the graphics for me everything runs fine right out the box soooo no worries after you follow the pastebin everything should look fater but be careful and follow it correctly ht
[12:22] <samgabbay> tp://pastebin.com/xwDmzgCV and for the temperature just check your fan if itsdirty or anything and reinstall ubuntu check if that will fix it :)
[12:23] <dmavroid> samgabbay: i will take a look now and if i cannot understand something i will let you know
[12:23] <dmavroid> samgabbay: thank you again
[12:23] <samgabbay> dmavroid: alright no problem but il be leaving the irc soon so email me if anything samuelgabbay1@hotmail.com
[12:24] <samgabbay> :))) your welcome have an awesome day and if you got anymore questions come back to the irc or goto askuuntu.com
[12:24] <dmavroid> samgabbay: you are the best! i will let you know either way
[12:24] <thunder1212> can i create usb startup disk using a ntfs partition
[12:24] <samgabbay> dmavroid: perfect talk to ya later mate :)
[12:24] <samgabbay> thunder1212: what do you mean......
[12:25] <thunder1212> i have to createe a live usb disk with 12.04.2 and i  have a 12.04.1 LTS installed on my desktop
[12:26] <samgabbay> thunder1212: if your trying to make it from windows go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows for mac go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx for linux go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[12:26] <samgabbay> thunder1212:  :) enjoy :)
[12:26] <samgabbay> all details should be there
[12:26] <Pac_Man> And sought much in google and i cannot find the solution, then my question is, if the line is that I must add to the configuration to support the access of any ip? And if so, why I get an error?
[12:27] <Pac_Man> mok0,
[12:27] <mok0> Pac_Man: AFAICS you get an error because the syntax you are using is wrong
[12:28] <mok0> Pac_Man: It is the parser of the config file complaining
[12:29] <Pac_Man> this is the syntax
[12:29] <Pac_Man> acl all src all
[12:29] <Pac_Man> http_access allow all
[12:30] <thunder1212> samgabbay, can i use ntfs formatted usb?
[12:31] <Pac_Man> I can upload the configuration file to pastebin, so that whichever way you look at
[12:31] <AlexPortable> histo:hi?
[12:32] <samgabbay> thunder1212: yea you can
[12:32] <samgabbay> thunder1212: but it will reformat the usb
[12:32] <Pac_Man> http://pastebin.com/Qda54dxt
[12:33] <thunder1212> samgabbay, ok
[12:33] <Pac_Man> this is the file mok0
[12:33] <samgabbay> thunder1212: it might format it to fat32 im not sure but i belive it should be just fine
[12:36] <mok0> Pac_Man: Does the version on pastebin work?
[12:36] <tom[]> is there a standard procedure for installing php 5.3 without suhosin?
[12:37] <Pac_Man> if the file squid.conf
[12:37] <Pac_Man> mok0,
[12:37] <samgabbay> la la la
[12:38] <HypothesisFrog> I'm on ubuntu 12.10. Does anybody know how to get the upgrade-manager thing working on the MATE desktop?
[12:38] <Pac_Man> is*
[12:38] <k1l_> HypothesisFrog: mate is not supported. best is to ask the mint guys for support for mate desktop
[12:39] <samgabbay> HypothesisFrog: are you trying to ubrage to 13.04
[12:39] <HypothesisFrog> samgabbay that is correct sir. yes.
[12:39] <samgabbay> HypothesisFrog: give me a second il help ya<
[12:39] <HypothesisFrog> samgabbay thank you sir.
[12:40] <k1l_> HypothesisFrog: you can upgrade per CLI: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[12:40] <samgabbay> HypothesisFrog: this should help :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/279620/how-do-i-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-04
[12:40] <HypothesisFrog> k1l_  samgabbay thanks
[12:40] <samgabbay> HypothesisFrog: it has a full guide on how to do it :)
[12:40] <samgabbay> HypothesisFrog: your welcome :)
[12:42] <samgabbay> il be back soon bye everyone :))))))) happy ubuntuing :)
[12:44] <mok0> Pac_Man: I might have given you wrong info. Here, they are using "acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0" http://horms.net/projects/redundant_linux_paper/related/squid/detail/acl.html
[12:44] <mok0> Pac_Man: Perhaps try #ubuntu-server
[12:45] <eva__> ..
[12:46] <BADTUX> rm -rf /*
[12:46] <DJones> BADTUX: Don't do that
[12:47] <k1l_> !warning
[12:49] <Pac_Man> Ok then seguire looking for information, I wait algun day to be able to do it xD, thank you for everything mok0
[12:49] <mok0> Pac_Man: Sorry I couldn't help solve it
[12:50] <Pac_Man> no problem
[12:50] <Pac_Man> tanck you
[12:50] <rohan> when I killed a process through kill [pid] command. how can I restart that process once again?
[12:51] <Ben64> rohan: start it back up however you originally did, theres no "unkill"
[12:56] <airjump> Hello
[13:00] <bobotm> join
[13:06] <zathraz> hi. I am currently trying to PXE boot Ubuntu 13.04 desktop. In the booting process it is claimed that /cdrom does not exist. Is this correct? Should I change stuff to /media or something?
[13:08] <BlackPanx> vs001 ~ $ dpkg-reconfigure console-data | this reconfigures keymap... where would i check what keyboard is set currently ? where's the file ?
[13:19] <demonio> hi all. i've a wireless adapter with chipset rtl8187 that on my win8 works perfectly but in ubuntu it doesn't seem work, the signal power is too weak while in win8 is power
[13:19] <demonio> so can someone say me where is the problem? driver?
[13:21] <zathraz> demonio, depends on which driver I presume. native or wrapped. Native drivers can usually be tweaked regarding signal strength but that might heathen up the device making it less reliable and may reduces it's lifetime
[13:22] <viju> hi
[13:22] <zathraz> check iwconfig and friends
[13:22] <viju> how do i make a video call in empathy?
[13:24] <bindi> sigh, why did my remote desktop settings (vnc server that came in ubuntu) reset after I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10? (and then 12.04)
[13:24] <bindi> its a mini laptop with a dead screen and its a PITA to plug a screen in and configure stuff. can I enable LAN access somehow using SSH?
[13:25] <demonio> zathraz,  i think that maybe i should switch off the internel wifi card and download driver from site of provider and then install it
[13:25] <shadej> what is the easiest way to install mail server?
[13:25] <zathraz> shadej, use an applicance
[13:26] <elspuddy> hi, is there a way of seeing what error a cron job has done ?
[13:26] <zathraz> elspuddy, syslog/messages in var
[13:26] <zathraz> or execute it by hand
[13:26] <shadej> zathraz: what kind?
[13:27] <zathraz> demonio, that would lead to close source drivers
[13:27] <zathraz> opensource should work
[13:28] <zathraz> shadej, turnkeylinux in a vm : mailservers are very complex
[13:28] <zathraz> if done right that bis
[13:28] <zathraz> *is
[13:28] <shadej> zathraz: am using ubuntu
[13:28] <demonio> yeah but i think that the manifacturer provides linux driver
[13:29] <zathraz> iredmail is also an option if you are more adventurus but do not want to config everything by hand
[13:31] <shadej> zathraz: how abt postfix?
[13:32] <zathraz> postfix is great
[13:32] <zathraz> but your question is a bit limited
[13:32] <elspuddy> how do i find out the last time a file has been accessed ?
[13:32] <zathraz> mailserver for what: local users, internet company? requires mailscanning for virussen etc
[13:33] <zathraz> postfix, but also say exim requires some knowledge and does not provide these extras out of the box
[13:35] <zathraz> shadej, exim is probably already installed on your box
[13:35] <shadej> zathraz: no it is not installed
[13:36] <erthad> hey, is there a way to install ia32-libs-multiarch on precise in PPA-builder at launchpad?
[13:37] <zathraz> shadej, there usually is a mailserver installed to handle system mail
[13:37] <zathraz> exim is the default in Debian, I presume also in Ubuntu
[13:37] <shadej> zathraz: may be sendmail
[13:38] <zathraz> shadej, just note, postfix, exim, sendmail : smtp and not so much imap
[13:38] <zathraz> "mailserver" is usually a set of multiple components
[13:38] <purplehz> what happens on a ubuntu server if a process requests more memory than is available?
[13:39] <zathraz> shadej, are you running 13.04 ?
[13:39] <purplehz> does the server just freeze or what?
[13:39] <shadej> zathraz: yeah
[13:39] <shadej> how can i get it all package at one
[13:39] <aendrew>  Anyone know what the current support status for systemd is? I'm wanting to do http://savanne.be/articles/deploying-node-js-with-systemd/ but the warning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd#Warning.21_Experimental_code is pretty, uh, discouraging.
[13:39] <zathraz> shadej, could you check for me please if  "/cdrom" does exist?
[13:40] <bgardner> purplehz, it will swap out to the swap space: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[13:40] <shadej> zathraz: yes there is
[13:40] <zathraz> shadej, like for smtp you also have various options for pop/imap. Therefor I suggested to make it simple and run something off the shelve
[13:40] <zathraz> ty
[13:41] <zathraz> so, either a VM or iredmail
[13:41] <zathraz> or something similar
[13:41] <shadej> zathraz: what is vm?
[13:41] <zathraz> virtual machine
[13:41] <shadej> doest it contain all the components
[13:41] <shadej> hmm
[13:41] <shadej> what abt iredmail
[13:42] <zathraz> so, you install virtualbox, xen or whatever and then run an aplicance
[13:42] <zathraz> it will be a linux in a linux environment
[13:42] <zathraz> iredmail is just a combined package. Just google
[13:42] <designbybeck> It seems others are having the problem along with myself. As of recently Flash on YouTube and the like, in Chrome, Firefox, Chromium will not play on Ubuntu 13.04
[13:43] <designbybeck> Maybe a recent update? Any Suggestions?
[13:43] <jpds> zathraz: Openstack is what the cool kids do these days.
[13:43] <demonio> someone know how add the email address of the user so that when he types mail he receives his email?
[13:44] <designbybeck> I have uninstalled and reinstalled flash
[13:44] <zathraz> jpds, I usually use ESX or virtualbox for local machines
[13:44] <cipher> i need help on installing ubuntu
[13:44] <designbybeck> cipher:  what kind of help
[13:44] <jpds> demonio: You want to receive email that you send?
[13:44] <designbybeck> Guest84372: what step are you in installing
[13:45] <designbybeck> Has anyone else had problems with Flash/YouTube videos not playing recently on Ubuntu 13.04
[13:45] <demonio> no that other send me, i'm reading a book about unix and there is a command "mail" but it doesn't explain how add the address email for user
[13:46] <gordonjcp> demonio: mail <address to send to>
[13:46] <gordonjcp> demonio: what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:46] <zathraz> demonio, mail is usually read by a mailclient for the current user when executed from commandline
[13:47] <demonio> gordonjcp, i want that when i type mail, it show me my emails
[13:47] <gordonjcp> demonio: show you them in what?
[13:47] <gordonjcp> type "mail" into what?
[13:47] <demonio> for example i type
[13:47] <demonio> mail
[13:48] <demonio> and shell return "there isn't email for demonio"
[13:48] <gordonjcp> demonio: that would be heirloom-mailx
[13:48] <demonio> so but i never setted my email address
[13:48] <gordonjcp> if you actually want to *use* a command-line mail client, look for something like mutt
[13:48] <gordonjcp> yes
[13:48] <gordonjcp> you don't set an email address
[13:49] <gordonjcp> it only works with your local user
[13:49] <cipher234618> I have two partitions, one contains windows, and other has some important files, I want to format the partition having windows and NOT format the partition having my files
[13:49] <cipher234618> If i do "Replace Windows With Ubuntu"., will i lose other partittion?
[13:50] <demonio> gordonjcp, mail is used for talk among the users?
[13:51] <zathraz> demonio, no, the oldest instant messaging is probably talkd. But nobody uses that
[13:52] <demonio> yeah is write command
[13:53] <sbecker> has anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop with preinstalled windows8? I already deactivated UEFI  but starting ubuntu results in a status 0x000007b error.
[13:54] <gordonjcp> demonio: decades ago, mail(1) was used to send email
[13:54] <gordonjcp> demonio: no-one really uses it any more
[13:55] <cipher234618>  I have two partitions, one contains windows, and other has some important files, I want to format the partition having windows and NOT format the partition having my files . If i do "Replace Windows With Ubuntu"., will i lose other partittion?
[13:55] <gordonjcp> it might be used by scripts for sending email, but it's really not a good choice for end users
[13:55] <gordonjcp> cipher234618: you shouldn't do, but it might be an idea to partition manually just to make sure
[13:55] <cipher234618> Ok
[13:56] <demonio> gordonjcp,  ok then i'll should use fetch-mutt?
[13:56] <gordonjcp> cipher234618: I strongly recommend making a backup of your important files before mucking with partitions
[13:56] <demonio> !
[13:56] <gordonjcp> demonio: you could try mutt
[13:56] <gordonjcp> not sure about fetch-mutt
[13:57] <demonio> but is difficult to configure
[13:57] <demonio> ?
[13:58] <net0pssec> hi guys how do u install .conf files on ubuntu
[14:00] <adamk> net0pssec: That question is way to open ended to have a simple answer.  What are you trying to do?
[14:00] <net0pssec> adamk: i have a .conf file i think it needs installation cuz i cannot get a grip on it
[14:01] <AlexPortable> How come my printers are gone from the list?
[14:01] <adamk> net0pssec: Still not enough detauls.  conf file for what?
[14:02] <net0pssec> adamk: i will ask the guys who sent it for more details about it maybe i am getting something wrong
[14:02] <DJHenjin> Soo, I have a ubuntu 12.04 server that I have been using /etc/network/interfaces to set up virtual Nics for different IP's to seperate routing of different clients services. However The most recent IP I have added causes an error which reads http://pastebin.com/5WHMP9s4 when i do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> DJHenjin: check line 45 and the one above and below it, check very carefully
[14:03] <krypton> hi, i downloaded a xubuntu zoneminder live cd, but zoneminder is not installed it seems when using livecd but it is in the packagge manager so i installed xbunutu to hdd but now the weird thing is zoneminder has disappeared from the package mamager so i can no longer install it, what the hell happended
[14:04] <DJHenjin> ok, duh.
[14:04] <krypton> xubuntu version is 8.10
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> DJHenjin: also ensure interfaces is owned by root:root and is 644
[14:04] <DJHenjin> now when i do the same it returns RTNETLINK answers: File exists Failed to bring up eth0:0. however the interfaces are actually brought up properly
[14:04] <krypton> i know it's old but this is what the livecd with zoneminder used
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> krypton: Intrepid is EOL
[14:05] <DJHenjin> is this just an annoyance that I can ignore if it is bringing the interfaces up correctly
[14:05] <k1l_> krypton: 8.10 is way out of support
[14:06] <k1l_> krypton: get a supported release and you can install packages from the repos
[14:06] <nanyaks_> net0pssec: The details and use case should have been confirmed before you try doing anything with the file as it could have *unexpected* consequences
[14:06] <krypton> i am guessing that xubuntu did some sort of update of the package manager and decided zoneminder was out of date, i don't recall giving me permission
[14:06] <net0pssec> nanyaks: thanks.. i will note that in case of next time
[14:07] <k1l_> krypton: there are no packages in the repos for 8.10 anymore
[14:07] <k1l_> !eol | krypton
[14:07] <nanyaks_> net0pssec: No problem :)
[14:07] <DJHenjin> Thanks for the help. I must depart now
[14:07] <krypton> kll I don't really have time to start all over again, besides I will have the issue of then finding the right release for zoneminder
[14:09] <k1l_> krypton: its not about what you want. its about that unsupported old releases have no packages in the repos anymore. so you cant install anything.
[14:09] <krypton> I don't see why i can't use a old release, that does not explain why zoneminder disappeared when this version is suppose to be all about that program
[14:09] <k1l_> krypton: if you would listen and read the link from the bot you would understand
[14:09] <genii> DJHenjin: I'd also suggest to use sudo restart networking ..because it's an upstart job now, instead of directly running the legacy file for sysvinit directly
[14:10] <krypton> kll, i don't find that very helpful
[14:10] <genii> Bleh. Lag.
[14:12] <krypton> are there not any repo's that keep old package versions, why the hell are old releases been distributed still if you can't use them
[14:13] <jrib> krypton: you can use them, it's just not supported nor advised
[14:13] <IdleOne> krypton: they are still available for archive/historical purposes.
[14:13] <jrib> krypton: the major issue is that unsupported releases no longer receive security updates
[14:14] <krypton> bloody weird that a livecd would be distributed for zonemonitor but not actually have zonemonitor on it and then can't download it because release is old
[14:14] <jrib> krypton: what is zonemonitor?
[14:15] <k1l_> krypton: talk with zonemonitor about that problem
[14:16] <krypton> jrib, others here are telling me i can't use this release because there are no repos for it
[14:16] <k1l_> !eol | krypton
[14:16] <jrib> krypton: why don't we try to get you on a supported release first
[14:16] <k1l_> krypton: read the bots message
[14:16] <krypton> zonemonitor is a cctv monitoring program, 1 of only a few
[14:16] <jrib> krypton: you mean "zoneminder"?
[14:16] <sbecker> has anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop with preinstalled windows8? I already deactivated UEFI  but starting ubuntu results in a status 0x000007b error. Booting via cd does not work.
[14:17] <krypton> yes, sorry zoneminder
[14:17] <k1l_> !info zoneminder
[14:17] <k1l_> so why not install a supported ubuntu release and install zoneminder then?
[14:18] <jrib> krypton: you should be able to install 12.04 LTS or 13.04 (latest release) and use the repositories to install zoneminder
[14:18] <terex> hi
[14:18] <krypton> well I don't know what releases support zoneminder and also I am running on old laptop so an older release will be better
[14:18] <rsz> what is the next best alternative to team viewer for accessing a ubuntu desktop from another system over the network?
[14:19] <jrib> krypton: if it's in the repositories, it's supported.  zoneminder is in the repositories. What are the specifications on your machine?
[14:19] <krypton> which is why i downloaded a release of a livecd that was specifically for zoneminder
[14:19] <adamk> krypton: Where did you download it from?
[14:20] <adamk> krypton: Certainly not ubuntu.com...
[14:20] <krypton> http://sourceforge.net/projects/zoneminder-cd/
[14:20] <adamk> krypton: OK, so ask the people running that project for support.
[14:21] <jrib> krypton: I don't see hat you gain other than saving yourself a single step (installing zoneminder from the repositories).  I'd advise using 12.04
[14:22] <jrib> krypton: that project just looks dead
[14:22] <krypton> that's great jrib, thanks, what releases is it in repo's for though. My laptop is a Pentium M, 1.6Ghz with 1/2 gig ram
[14:23] <jrib> krypton: 12.04 code name "precise" is the name of the ubuntu release if that is what you are asking?
[14:23] <krypton> yes, thanks
[14:23] <jrib> krypton: you may have some issues running the default environment on 12.04 with that laptop, so you may want to use lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04 instead.  They share the same repositories but just have different defaults, so you'll still be able to install zoneminder easily through the repositories
[14:24] <krypton> ok, what was the version before 12.04 because i think i have lubuntu 11 something on another machine
[14:24] <xlaire> hello everyone
[14:25] <xlaire> just want to sit
[14:25] <krypton> but could not find zoneminder in the software center on that one
[14:25] <jrib> krypton: 11.10 was the version before but that is no longer supported
[14:25] <krypton> 12.04 is latest?
[14:25] <jrib> krypton: 12.04 is the latest LTS
[14:25] <jrib> !lts | krypton
[14:26] <krypton> i had to use 11.10 on my other machine, 12.04 did not work
[14:26] <k1l_> if you use not-supported ubuntu releases you will not find any packages in the softwarecenter
[14:26] <DarkSim_> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 (with xubuntu-desktop) and I'm trying to mount a Canon Ixus 55 camera but it doesn't show up, can someone help me?
[14:27] <krypton> kll that is strange as i have installed software from software center on 11.10
[14:27] <jrib> krypton: well start by trying to use 12.04 on the machine you want to use now... if you find an issue, *then* worry about it and come back for support here
[14:28] <cfhowlett> DarkSim, try launching thunar to see if it appears.  also try nautilus.  for some reason, different results with my nexus 4
[14:28] <k1l_> krypton: you are still missing the point of a release loosing the support. it doesnt loose the support from the beginning
[14:29] <krypton> only problem is jrib that chews up a lot of time trialing and erroring different releases, which is why i would rather go for an older release i already know works, it's just a matter of finding out what release will make installing zoneminder easy
[14:29] <jrib> krypton: 12.04 is the release I suggest you use
[14:29] <DarkSim_> Hm, cfhowlett. I can find the camera in Nautilus but not in Thunar
[14:29] <krypton> kll, I don't think i ever missed your point but i think you missed mine
[14:30] <DarkSim_> Unless you have some sort of final touch I guess this will have to do for now :D
[14:30] <k1l_> krypton: but since 10.04 (server version) , 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 have zoneminder in the repos i think 11.10 had it, too. just use a support version and you can install zoneminder from the repos
[14:30] <cfhowlett> DarkSim, same same.  use what works ...
[14:31] <anton_eh> is it usual for my USB microphone and my USB camera to be identified as keyboards ? this is what my Xorg.0.log states
[14:31] <sbecker> has anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop with preinstalled windows8? I already deactivated UEFI  but booting via cd does not work,
[14:31] <krypton> kll, now you are answering in the way i was looking for in the beginning
[14:31] <k1l_> krypton: we already told you releases that ran out of support are not supported in here.
[14:32] <krypton> oh now you are saying that support is not offered by people in here for older releases, that is a different point again to what you said in the beginning
[14:33] <xadidas4lifex> hey, i have a macbook pro. and i have ubuntu installed on a partition of my harddrive.
[14:33] <k1l_> krypton: nope. i said that since the beginning
[14:33] <leonvv> What is the meaning of a "@" after a file name ?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !mac|xadidas4lifex,
[14:33] <xadidas4lifex> if I update my mac from 10.7.5 to the latest 10.7, will it mess up?
[14:33] <krypton> so kll you can speak for everybody and say that no support is offered in this irc channel for older releases?
[14:34] <cfhowlett> xadidas4lifex, ask the mac folk ...
[14:34] <xadidas4lifex> damn
[14:34] <xadidas4lifex> i hate mac folk...
[14:34] <cfhowlett> krypton, as a rule End of Life releases are NOT supported ... by definition
[14:34] <xadidas4lifex> $50 to get an answer for one question
[14:34] <cfhowlett> !mac|xadidas4lifex,
[14:34] <jrib> krypton: yes, "no support" includes officially no support in this channel.  We'll generally help you upgrade to a supported release though
[14:35] <DarkSim_> Thanks so much for the help cfhowlett!
[14:35] <DarkSim_> Goodbye!
[14:35] <cfhowlett> DarkSim, be safe/have fun
[14:36] <xlaire> why ubuntu is very nice!!!
[14:36] <xlaire> ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> xlaire: depends on needs
[14:36] <cfhowlett> xlaire, is that a question or a statement?
[14:36] <krypton> so that is a rule in this channel that on one can offer support for older linux releases?
[14:37] <xlaire> not sure you guys been serious
[14:37] <xlaire> just want to say something lol
[14:37] <leonvv> Does nobody know what the "@" is about after file names ?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> krypton, End of Life = no support ... as stated, you can help upgrading to  a supported version.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> leonvv: in what folder?
[14:37] <leonvv> sys/class/power_supply
[14:37] <krypton> no support by who though?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> krypton: try calling Microsoft to get support for Windows 98, same story
[14:38] <jrib> krypton: if someone wants to help you and makes you aware of what the issues are, I personally won't stop them.  That being said, you already know where we stand: install a supported release, probably 12.04.  zoneminder is in it's repositories.  Do you have any other questions?
[14:38] <k1l_> krypton: yep. stop begging on that. old releases dont get any updates. that includes no security updates. so its not supported to use old releases
[14:38] <cfhowlett> krypton, no one.  seriously, it's not that hard a concept.  try getting support for windows 98.  same result.
[14:38] <jrib> s/'//
[14:38] <krypton> if i go on a windows irc channel and ask about old windows version i don't get this eol line though
[14:38] <k1l_> !eol | krypton
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !eol|krypton,
[14:39] <krypton> never asked for any updates
[14:39] <k1l_> krypton: read that link. its given you 4th times now!
[14:39] <cfhowlett> krypton, do yourself a favor and actually read this so you know what is happening.  I'm done.
[14:39] <krypton> or expected them on a old release
[14:39] <jrib> he's doing a fresh install anyway from what I gathered
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> krypton: the releases taht are EOL are dead so support can be focussed on newer releases, if you do a clean install of Precise you will get support til April 2017
[14:40] <krypton> easier said than done, not everyone can run the latest release on their machine because of incompatiblities
[14:40] <leonvv> Can you read out a symlink just like any other file ?
[14:40] <jrib> krypton: are you one of these people?  You haven't tried.
[14:40] <jrib> leonvv: what do you mean by "read out"?
[14:41] <krypton> nope
[14:41] <xlaire> been reading online tutorial and books, still dont get it, i was windows user for productivity application and just this year, i switch to this ubuntu
[14:41] <leonvv> Just like you would with normal files
[14:41] <jrib> leonvv: ok give an example with normal files...
[14:41] <xlaire> i still dont understand the drive
[14:41] <xlaire> the mounting of devices
[14:41] <xlaire> can anyone explain in straight answer how this thing works
[14:42] <leonvv> Get the contents from a .txt file using C or another language, that's what I would call "read out"
[14:42] <xlaire> in windows, drive are can easily picture them out
[14:42] <anton_eh> is it usual for my USB microphone and my USB camera to be identified as keyboards ? this is what my Xorg.0.log states or do I have driver issues that need resolving?
[14:42] <leonvv> I need to get the battery state programmatically
[14:43] <jrib> leonvv: I don't see why not.  Probably depends on your call.  You probably have a convenience library you can use too
[14:45] <krypton> if you don't want to help someone because you don't agree with giving support on older versions of linux then i suggest you shut up
[14:45] <meLon> I upgraded 10.04 -> 12.04, and now apt is all broken.  http://pastie.org/private/ohepxjrovsn7k48duxdxqa  Any suggestions?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> krypton, now you're just being nasty.  Please stop.  immediately
[14:45] <jrib> meLon: how did you upgrade?
[14:46] <jrib> some people just want to make things hard for themselves for some reason
[14:46] <leonvv> jrib: allright, thanks
[14:47] <Guest92031> root
[14:47] <meLon> oh, god jrib.  I think I did something...  do-release-upgrade
[14:48] <jrib> meLon: do you want dovecot?
[14:48] <meLon> Yea
[14:48] <k1l_> !rootirc > Guest92031
[14:49] <jrib> meLon: output of: « ls -l /etc/init*/dovecot* »
[14:50] <meLon> jrib: I'm not too sure where you're going with this, man.  You saw the errors I was getting?  http://pastie.org/8030656
[14:50] <jrib> meLon: I saw them, yes
[14:51] <xadidas4lifex> anyone else on a mac though lol
[14:52] <k1l_> !ot | xadidas4lifex
[14:52] <jrib> meLon: pastebin contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/dovecot-managesieved.postrm and output of « apt-cache policy dovecot-core dovecot-managesieved dovecot-mysql dovecot-sieve »
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> meLon: reinstall the package, then remove it
[14:52] <meLon> ActionParsnip: orly?  :P  That's the problem broseph
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> meLon: if you edit the postrm file, you can make it basic and it may remove for you
[14:54] <meLon> jrib: http://pastie.org/8030668 http://pastie.org/8030669 jrib .  ActionParsnip I think jrib is about to help me do just that
[14:55] <jrib> meLon: is dovecot running?
[14:55] <meLon> It was, but it's yelling at me that it doesnt know how to talk to mysql ;_;
[14:55] <jrib> meLon: by "it was", you mean you stopped it and it's no longer running?
[14:55] <meLon> jrib: I have many dovecot services
[14:55] <michael87> wow I never knew how metacity themes worked until I installed it via the gnome tweak tool. wow. ubuntu just made another step up from windows 7 XD lol
[14:56] <meLon> Running, right now (ps aux | grep dovecot)
[14:56] <jrib> meLon: do you care if we stop it?
[14:56] <michael87> I got transparent windows to work finally too. awsome.
[14:56] <meLon> It's not actually working.  So, that will work
[14:56] <jrib> meLon: what happens when you try "sudo invoke-rc.d dovecot stop"?
[14:56] <meLon> It's not working in the capacity in which I need it to work, so turning it off right now doesn't bother me jrib
[14:57] <meLon> jrib: I don't have invote-rc.d installed.  pro!
[14:57] <jrib> meLon: s/t/k
[14:57] <meLon> I mistyped
[14:57] <jrib> meLon: you can get past this by commenting lines in these postrm files but it's generally better to understand what's happening first and I don't see why "invoke-rc.d dovecot start" would fail
[14:57] <meLon> I dont have invo*k*e-rc.d :P
[14:57] <jrib> interesting
[14:58] <jrib> meLon: « ls /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d » gives you an error?
[14:58] <meLon> 12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11308 Jul 26  2012 /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d
[14:59] <meLon> http://pastie.org/8030688 jrib
[14:59] <jrib> meLon: now start it
[14:59] <michael87> does anyone know how to change the color of a metacity theme via dconf?
[14:59] <meLon> Started
[14:59] <Chech> help cant connect apple wireless keyboard, picks it up and connects to it but cant type ubuntu 13.04
[15:00] <michael87> or if you can blur windows on 13.04 after you made them transparent?
[15:00] <Mark_> Chech: ubuntu running in a vm environment?
[15:00] <meLon> jrib: It's started...
[15:00] <jrib> meLon: I saw.  It's probably related to the fact /usr/sbin wasn't in your path :)
[15:00] <jrib> *thinking*
[15:00] <Chech> no my main os on desktop
[15:01] <jrib> meLon: well, have you messed with PATH at all?
[15:01] <meLon> Not that I'm aware.
[15:02] <meLon> jrib: `sudo su -` `sudo apt-get install -f`
[15:02] <meLon> rrr -sudo
[15:02] <meLon> but yeah.  Loging in as root user solved this problem
[15:02] <meLon> How strange
[15:02] <meLon> 10.04 - 12.04 upgrade sure has been fun
[15:03] <jrib> meLon: what's your PATH look like?
[15:03] <jrib> for your user
[15:04] <meLon> I'm not worried about that right now.  I *really* need this mailserver running
[15:04] <jrib> meLon: ok, so you were able to complete the apt-get command now?
[15:04] <meLon> Yeah  Now I've got to reconfigure dovecot mysql user.  What a pita
[15:05] <meLon> I hope the upgrade didnt destroy my db
[15:05] <jrib> meLon: don't worry you have backups -_-
[15:06] <noiro> Ugh, Ubuntu + Teamviewer 8 = bugged as hell
[15:06] <auronandace> noiro: compositing window managers and teamviewer do not get along well
[15:07] <meLon> [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown variable 'default-character-set=utf8' jrib >_<
[15:07] <jrib> meLon: this is a very strange upgrade
[15:07] <citric> How come on windows I get about 5 hours battery life on my laptop and in ubuntu I get about 3 ?
[15:07] <noiro> Just running gnome-shell. :/ Teamviewer 7 runs fine
[15:08] <meLon> sweeet.  They changed it..;. again
[15:09] <koramati> Dear All
[15:09] <koramati> is remastersys  is available for ubuntu 13.04
[15:10] <citric> will I get better battery life out of my laptop if I use 32bit over 64bit ?
[15:10] <auronandace> citric: i doubt it would make any difference
[15:10] <diverdude> top shows mem consumption in% how do i see absolute mem usage per running process ?
[15:11] <citric> auronandace, can you help me figure out why I get 2 hours less battery life on ubuntu than I do on windows?
[15:11] <jrib> diverdude: press 'f'
[15:11] <auronandace> citric: it can be very hardware dependant
[15:12] <citric> auronandace, I figured it would get better than windows :(
[15:12] <auronandace> citric: what graphics drivers are you using?
[15:12] <bgardner> koramati: See http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/
[15:12] <diverdude> jrib, is it shared mem size?
[15:13] <koramati> bgardner:thank you
[15:13] <koramati> let me have a look
[15:13] <citric> auronandace, whatever was installed for ubuntu, my laptop uses IntelHD3000, it's an i5 processor
[15:13] <jrib> diverdude: you probably want res
[15:14] <auronandace> citric: i've only used nvidia and amd graphics
[15:14] <citric> auronandace, im going to re-install ubuntu, maybe that will fix it
[15:14] <auronandace> citric: i sincerely doubt it
[15:15] <auronandace> citric: it's not really something you fix
[15:15] <diverdude> jrib, its not showing per process
[15:15] <jrib> diverdude: what do you mean?
[15:16] <meLon> jrib: Still having some issues.  Let me know if you have a recomendation.  Stepping out for 5m.  BRB http://pastie.org/8030739
[15:19] <jrib> meLon: strange error since it says the file doesn't have +r permissions and then says the file is 755...  What's this look like: « ls -ld /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb; lsattr -d /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb; getfacl /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb »
[15:20] <minimec> citric: What version of Ubuntu do you use? Do you have a dual GPU in your laptop?
[15:20] <durga> how to change root password in xubuntu 12.10
[15:20] <jinkela> durga: sudo passwd root
[15:20] <jrib> !root | durga
[15:20] <jrib> durga: please don't run that command; read ubottu's link
[15:20] <auronandace> durga: there is no root password by default and we don't support setting one
[15:21] <durga> thank u
[15:21] <citric> minimec, thank you for your response, 13.04 is what I use 64bit, and no, single GPU, Intel HD 3000
[15:21] <jrib> jinkela: please inform people of ubuntu's default setup regarding sudo and root before recommending that.  An easy way to do that is using ubottu as above
[15:22] <durga> i am new to xubuntu.. please guide me how to install local  and server mysql
[15:23] <erthad> hi, is it a correct channel to ask questions about PPA building?
[15:23] <durga> please any one....
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> erthad: #launchpad maybe
[15:24] <erthad> ActionPa1snip, thx
[15:24] <minimec> citric: ok. You are using a new kernel and new intel drivers. First you can install 'sudo apt-get install powertop'. Then 'sudo powertop' and try to optimize the settings in 'tunables'.
[15:24] <jrib> durga: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/mysql.html
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> !lamp | durga
[15:24] <citric> minimec, will do, in the process of a re-install atm.
[15:25] <minimec> citric: A reinstallation wil change nothing
[15:25] <genii> erthad: #ubuntu-packaging
[15:25] <erthad> genii, thx too
[15:26] <s_faraday> hi all
[15:27] <s_faraday> I wanna have gnome 3 desktop in my ubuntu 13.04
[15:27] <lazarus477> I am on ubuntu 12.04. Where are the images located after installing grub2-splashimages ?
[15:27] <auronandace> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:27] <s_faraday>  and do these commands but still i see unity environment
[15:27] <minimec> citric: Also check if you get some indications of 'poser usage' in 'Overview' when using the battery. Should be something like "The battery reports a discharge rate of 10.37 W" or something like that.
[15:28] <s_faraday> auronandace: i did that, but it didn't work!
[15:28] <bgardner> lazarus477: dpkg -L grub2-splashimages
[15:28] <lazarus477> Never mind, I found it.
[15:28] <lazarus477> bgardner: thanks for the tip :-)
[15:29] <s_faraday>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3  , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get install gnome-shell  , plus installing these packages with synaptic:  gnome, gnome-shell-extensions
[15:29] <auronandace> s_faraday: why did you install the ppa?
[15:30] <s_faraday> auronandace: still i see unity
[15:30] <auronandace> s_faraday: you didn't answer my question
[15:31] <s_faraday> auronandace: someone told me to install that, i don't know reason
[15:31] <durga> just now mysql successfully completed... Now How to use this one..... please friends guide me...
[15:31] <auronandace> s_faraday: to use another desktop environment you need to log out and select it on the login screen
[15:31] <auronandace> s_faraday: ppas are not supported here
[15:31] <auronandace> s_faraday: you should use the gnome-shell in the official repos
[15:31] <durga> just now mysql successfully installed... Now How to use this one..... please friends guide me...
[15:32] <citric> minimec, ok I will get back to you when ubuntu is finished installed.
[15:32] <s_faraday> auronandace: ok, thanks
[15:33] <durga> please any one.... guide me.... please
[15:33] <auronandace> !please | durga
[15:35] <durga> how to connect mysql server?
[15:36] <antonio_> how can i install adobe flash player in chromium?
[15:37] <meLon> http://pastie.org/private/pqkrzdcyfdsplkdkepvaeg jrib
[15:37] <bgardner> durga: Working with an RDBMS is a huge topic - try reviewing the MySQL documentation: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/
[15:38] <durga> bgardner - Thank you
[15:38] <jrib> meLon: ok, so you need to give vmail read permission that I assume?  Or give everyone read?  I'm not familiar with dovecot so I don't know if letting everyone read is an issue
[15:39] <citric> when selecting the option "Install alongside windows 8" it has a slider for the partitions, but it doesnt tell you which partition is ubuntu or windows...
[15:39] <citric> is ubuntu the left side, or the right side? :/
[15:39] <jrib> citric: file a bug please
[15:41] <citric> jrib, ... the doesn't answer the question. :)
[15:42] <jrib> citric: yes, I don't know the answer
[15:42] <jrib> citric: but while you wait for someone who knows, you should file a bug to help others
[15:43] <citric> is it a bug though? :/
[15:43] <jrib> citric: if it's not clear to you, I would say so
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> citric: I would resize the NTFS in Windows then leave space unpartitioned, much easier
[15:44] <citric> ActionPa1snip, can that be done within the installer ?
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> citric: never had to use it. I do know that windows can resize it's own partitions
[15:46] <citric> ActionPa1snip, googled it, for future reference you can use Gparted within the installer :)
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> citric: should make it clear where data is going etc
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> citric: or just plan your partitions, then you don't have to resize
[15:49] <raving> Hello; this may not be the appropriate channel for this, but has anybody used the nut package in netserver mode? I am not sure if it's a weird configuration issue on my end or what, but I am having trouble getting upsd to accept connections on my LAN
[15:49] <EDocToor> I need help creating a FQDN for Ubuntu Server Setup.. any hints
[15:50] <Success> hey guys. uhm so I did this thing to try to install an nvidia driver but it screwed everything up. kernel 3.80-23 (latest) ubuntu 13.10 (first result on google: ubuntu nvidia graphics)
[15:50] <raving> Success: are you using the one in multiverse?
[15:50] <daftykins> EDocToor: i'm guessing you're not familiar with what an FQDN is? :) is it by any chance apache2's error making you think you need one?
[15:51] <Traxie21> Hello, I have a problem.  The USB drive that I have installed ubuntu 13.04 to will not boot, with the erorr: unable to mount root device
[15:51] <Traxie21> Same as here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1611213&page=2
[15:52] <Success> raving: its nvidia-current, I don't think it is but by the name probably
[15:52] <EDocToor> daftykins, your right.. it is my first UBUNTU SERVER SETUP and POSTfix is asking for a FQDN ..but I am created this server for a real online store so it has to be right.. the domain for the store is www.icyourrc.com
[15:52] <raving> Success: IIRC that is the proprietary driver. I guess the first question is what you mean by it screwed everything up.
[15:53] <daftykins> EDocToor: ok so it'll be "servername.icyourrc.com"
[15:53] <Success> raving: login screen doesn't look like it did before, unity isn't working at all, the window manager is broken on it, dash doesn't show up. gnome is now gnome2 instead of gnome3 somehow (but it works) resolution screwed up
[15:54] <raving> Success: weird, I haven't heard of that package requiring a downgrade for gnome
[15:54] <raving> Success: do you know if the kernel driver is loaded (or how to check to see if it is?)
[15:54] <Success> raving: i just loaded it but haven't rebooted yet
[15:54] <Success> the kernel-header, right?
[15:55] <SuperLag> Does Ubuntu know when you've docked your laptop? is there a way to get a script to run automatically when that happens?
[15:55] <EDocToor> daftykins, Thanks... that helps...
[15:55] <raving> SuperLag: it's possible through udev I think
[15:56] <daftykins> EDocToor: np :) fwiw i think you're entering a world of hurt running your own mail in-house :)
[15:57] <raving> I'm not sure whether or not ubuntu supports that out of the box or if it needs some extra configuration on your part though; I've never used a dock
[15:57] <Traxie21> If someone has any experience with "Gave up waiting for root device", I could use some help :3
[15:57] <EDocToor> daftykins, so on my server with "root@edoc:~#" myservername is edoc and my domain in real life is icyourrc.com so it would be edoc.icyourrc.com... is that right?
[15:58] <daftykins> EDocToor: yep. fully qualified domain names are the full routable addresses to a host
[15:58] <EDocToor> It isn't for me.. is for the store... has to be done
[15:58] <daftykins> EDocToor: even more reason :)
[15:59] <EDocToor> daftykins, thanks... I will exclude the mail.. but you have helped me as the FQDN was required by the packages for the store later on
[16:00] <SuperLag> EDocToor: I think daftykins is spot on, on that one.
[16:00] <An0n> Hello all. Anyone know where I can find the 6.10 sparc netboot files?
[16:00] <An0n> Or can I get them from the CD ISO?
[16:01] <citric> ActionPa1snip, you are right about the planing ahead, but I am new to this so I guess I have to make mistakes in order to learn :P
[16:02] <Traxie21> Oi, I appear to be the only person online who has ever had this problem without the UUID, but with the device name...
[16:02] <EDocToor> daftykins, on a Ubuntu Server Setup - Software selection - Page what would I choose : from the following: edoc.icyourrc.com
[16:02] <EDocToor> [*] OpenSSH server (remote access)
[16:02] <EDocToor> [*] DNS server (sounds cool)
[16:02] <EDocToor> [*] LAMP server (LAMP (Linux Apache MySQL PHP) web server)
[16:02] <EDocToor> [*] Mail server (email server)
[16:02] <EDocToor> [*] PostgreSQL database (SQL)
[16:02] <FloodBot1> EDocToor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <EDocToor> [*] Print server ()
[16:03] <EDocToor> oops
[16:07] <bgardner> An0n: See: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/
[16:08] <ActionPa1snip> citric: I like to advise the windows tool, its a familiar look to users plus its the microsoft tool to resize microsoft's file system :)
[16:08] <ActionPa1snip> An0n: 6.10 what?
[16:08] <citric> ActionPa1snip, well Gparted worked really good. :)
[16:09] <ActionPa1snip> citric: its a great tool. I use it in Linux VMs to expand partitions to newly published space :)
[16:09] <daftykins> EDocToor: you'd only choose whichever services you want to run
[16:10] <An0n> @ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 6.10 server for SPARC
[16:11] <bgardner> An0n: Did you mean Debian 6.10 server for SPARC?
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> An0n: 6.10 server is EOL
[16:11] <EDocToor> daftykins, for the Ubuntu Server .. what is the required services.. I need samba, but what about, openSSH, DNS, LAMP, MAIL, POSTgreSQL, Print, and TOMcat?
[16:11] <genii> An0n: Should probably have upgraded to the last Sparc version which is 10.04
[16:12] <An0n> At this point any linux I can run on a Sun T2000 server
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> An0n: Lucid has 2 years support left
[16:12] <daftykins> EDocToor: openssh gives you remote access via SSH, DNS if you want it to be a DNS server, LAMP if you want it to run an Apache web server with mysql database and PHP, the rest are pretty obvious. i recommend you select nothing because you can always add things later.
[16:13] <An0n> I will try, just that I found many tutorials using ubuntu 6.10
[16:13] <daftykins> EDocToor: also it's pretty obvious you're doing things without reading the server docs, they're there to help :D
[16:13] <ActionPa1snip> An0n: could always run Gentoo :)
[16:13]  * bathroom slaps FloodBot1 around a bit with a large trout
[16:13]  * bathroom slaps FloodBot2 around a bit with a large trout
[16:13] <genii> An0n: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/sparc/pr01.html
[16:13]  * bathroom slaps FloodBot3 around a bit with a large trout
[16:13]  * bathroom slaps 13WAAGT5J around a bit with a large trout
[16:13]  * bathroom slaps [0x1a] around a bit with a large trout
[16:13]  * bathroom slaps [1]oo[1]_ around a bit with a large trout
[16:13] <FloodBot1> bathroom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <An0n> ActionPa1snip: I may try to once again. Bad experience in the past
[16:14] <An0n> thanks everyone.
[16:15] <EDocToor> daftykins, I have read... but it helps to have your input... like for the MAIL as I choose it because it seemed normal for a domain web server for a store to have email support
[16:16] <EDocToor> daftykins, but you state that it would be too complicated
[16:16] <EDocToor> that was good advice
[16:16] <EDocToor> thankss
[16:17] <backbox> hey wazzup
[16:21] <citric> minimec, ok, i have powertop now, and im in tunables
[16:21] <citric> minimec, I assume changing bad to good on certain things like wireless power saving, enable sata link power managment
[16:22] <citric> auto suspend for usb
[16:28] <Traxie21> Help with booting from the USB drive!!
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: details please
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:29] <Traxie21> I finally seem to have gotten grub to start booting from the INSTALLED (not live) usb drive, and now it boots VERY slow, and just stops after this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752175/
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: what video chip do you use?
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: is it desktop OS or server?
[16:30] <Traxie21> Desktop OS, Intel Gallium/Nvidia
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: has it been ok in the past but now having issues or is it a new install?
[16:30] <Traxie21> fresh install onto a PNY metal attache 32GB USB drive
[16:30] <Traxie21> Ubuntu 13.04
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: tried the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:31] <Traxie21> No, I havent..
[16:31] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: might be worth a shot
[16:31] <Traxie21> I don't think so, I have a HDD install of Ubuntu 13.04, and it detects the intel card fine
[16:31] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: you will also need bumblebee to support your GPU mess
[16:31] <Traxie21> I have a nVidia optimus system
[16:31] <Traxie21> I know
[16:32] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: if you press CTRL+ALT+F2 when you see that screen, do you get a login prompt?
[16:32] <Traxie21> Uhh
[16:32] <Traxie21> It hardly starts booting
[16:32] <Traxie21> Thats the entire /var/logs/boot.log file
[16:32] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: just because you don't get the pretty login screen doesn't mean it hasn't started enough to start doing things with it
[16:32] <Traxie21> Should I reboot and try?
[16:33] <Traxie21> It takes about 2 minutes to get to that point
[16:33] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: its free, why not :)
[16:33] <Traxie21> But what do I do once I get a login prompt?
[16:33] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: try stopping and then restarting the lightdm service
[16:33]  * Traxie21 is tired of rebooting
[16:33] <Traxie21> sudo service stop lightdm?
[16:33] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: or get updates if networking has started
[16:34] <Traxie21> kk
[16:34] <Traxie21> brb
[16:34] <ActionPa1snip> Traxie21: sudo service lightdm stop
[16:38] <minimec> citric: Yeah. Try to change your settings there. check how that influences the power usage on battery in 'overview'
[16:43] <minimec> citric: If you are not happy with the results, you can add additional changes as boot option for the kernel. I don't need these changes anymore with an i5 Ivy bridge on 13.04. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
[16:44] <citric> minimec, i run an i5 in this laptop
[16:44] <A1Recon> Does mozilla thunderbird send the IP Address (of PC from which the mail is being sent) in the IP Address?
[16:46] <HellTiger> hello, where can i findout if my kernel supports "loop devices"? its quite hard to google for me. my kernel is: "kernel version 3.0.8+ jackie@ubuntu #68"
[16:47] <minimec> citric: Also set the display brightness to 75% or so maybe, if you can.
[16:48] <citric> I have it at bare minimum :/
[16:48] <trism> HellTiger: check the config for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y in /boot/
[16:48] <HellTiger> ok
[16:51] <HellTiger> trism: its a android tablet, i dont have there /boot, a other way is search in "/proc/config.gz" but its also not there.
[16:52] <PITBEAST> Hello everyone! I'm desperately in need of help.
[16:52] <trism> HellTiger: not really on topic here then
[16:52] <HellTiger> ok
[16:53] <PITBEAST> I have a Toshiba Satellite that came with windows 8 pre-installed. I decided to try to dual boot with Ubuntu 13.04. Something went terribly wrong.
[16:54] <PITBEAST> Basically, when the install of 13.04 was finished and I restarted the computer I got this error: "Boot Failure:  a proper digital signature was not found. One of the files on the selected boot device was rejected by the Secure Boot Feature".
[16:54] <trism> HellTiger: is it using the ubuntu tablet edition or something? there is a #ubuntu-touch room if so
[16:55] <HellTiger> it will use soon this version
[16:55] <HellTiger> thx
[16:56] <PITBEAST> So I shut it down and accessed the legacy BIOS by holding F2 while starting up and disabled secure boot. This allowed me to access Ubuntu via the Ubuntu Grub Boot Loader.
[16:56] <PITBEAST> Now, I can't get into windows at all. I've tried "sudo update-grub" and I've read a few guides but I'm really out of my depth here.
[16:58] <PITBEAST> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[16:58] <HellTiger> PITBEAST: maybe you didnt read http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/165348-how-can-i-recover-my-lost-windows-7-partition-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[16:58] <HellTiger> and http://askubuntu.com/questions/133725/cant-boot-windows-7-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[17:01] <PITBEAST> HellTiger: In boot-repair, under other options, I can't click the radio button for "Repair Windows boot files". Any ideas?
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> PITBEAST, You might try posting a thread at the ubuntu forums, the best help on UEFI is there, run the bootinfo summary in the bootrepair app and post it's url in the thread.
[17:01] <PITBEAST> Thanks wilee-nilee. I'll try that.
[17:02] <PITBEAST> If I could get into Windows and just delete Ubuntu and do it over again (properly), I'd be happy with that.
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> PITBEAST, Do you have windows backed up?
[17:03] <PITBEAST> wilee-nilee I don't want to answer that question... :/ I went into this thinking "I've installed ubuntu plenty of times" not knowing the issues with UEFI, etc.
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> PITBEAST  uefi is a pain
[17:04] <PITBEAST> wilee-nilee so the answer is no...i didn't back up windows
[17:04] <wilee-nilee> PITBEAST, I figured that.
[17:05] <citric> how can you check version number of drivers?
[17:05] <PITBEAST> would you guys mind if I posted the boot info summary here to see if anyone knows what's up?
[17:07] <deadweasel> post it to pastebin
[17:07] <deadweasel> and then post pastebin URL
[17:07] <PITBEAST> uh... it's a paste.ubuntu.com link
[17:08] <driiper> Good evening :) I have a question regarding  "CLI shortcuts" in ubuntu.  I just installed eclipse from the repo but sadly this was a old version. i then removed it and installed from eclipse homepage. but now when im trying to run "eclipse" in cli i get erros. so i was wondering if anyone know how i can change the "eclipse" command so it goes to the right path.
[17:09] <paddy> hello. how can i find out why http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/packagesearch is not in the ubuntu package archive?
[17:09] <deadweasel> PITBEAST: i think that will work fine
[17:09] <A1Recon> how to strip away the metadata/creator's name from a xls file while creating the file in Libreoffice Calc. Please help!! It's urgent!
[17:09] <PITBEAST> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752284/
[17:09] <nibbler> driiper: just call it by its full name.... /home/foo/development/eclipse/eclipse - or uninstall the other version (apt-get remove ?)
[17:10] <driiper> nibbler: is there any way to also change it so i could call "eclipse" on the new version ? :)
[17:10] <nibbler> driiper: so many ways i would not know where to start. best would be to remove the wrong one
[17:11] <driiper> nibbler: okay :) thanks!
[17:12] <utusan> A1Recon: change it in tools/options/user/data
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> paddy, I see that app in my 13.04 synaptic.
[17:13] <wilee-nilee> not sure what it's use is, it is not installed.
[17:13] <aid> hi all
[17:13] <paddy> wilee-nilee, ah, thanks
[17:13] <paddy> on 12.04 it is missing
[17:13] <paddy> its a package information and search tool
[17:14] <A1Recon> utusan: Thanks it helped! But is there any other way to know if the file was created by a specific user?
[17:19] <aid> could you please help me? i cannot ping any ip address through "ping" in terminal?
[17:20] <utusan> A1Recon: these are usually seen from doc properties?
[17:21] <A1Recon> utusan: Yeah in  the properties.. I know!! But this is quite a sensitive document so I was wondering...
[17:27] <enigmuriatic1> is there any way to increase the number of lines visible in the terminal when i scroll up?
[17:28] <HellTiger> enigmuriatic1: run first the app called screen
[17:28] <coreyo> would someone be kind enough to tell me the latest mainstream kernel version in 13.04?     'cat /proc/version'
[17:28] <dhci> how can I update my keyboard mapping in xwindows? it seems to have changed back to qwerty after moving from a plain usb wired keyboard, to a logitech wireless (usb receiver.)
[17:28] <HellTiger> in it you can scroll up
[17:28] <HellTiger> but read man page how to reach puffer via shortcut
[17:28] <utusan> enigmuriatic1: maximize the window?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> coreyo  uname -r => Linux ubuntu-laptop 3.8.0-23-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:22:58 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:29] <coreyo> MonkeyDust, thank you very much
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> that's uname -a ^^^^^
[17:29] <utusan> coreyo: that's the version of your running kernel
[17:30] <utusan> coreyo: do apt-get update then apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[17:30] <dhci> I'm on 12.04 precise -- in /etc/default/keyboard what does the XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch" correspond to? right alt and what to do a keyboard mapping switch?
[17:32] <dhci> i'm thinking I just have to live with qwerty for a bit, perhaps the usb receiver injects the character code as directly as it can
[17:32] <coreyo> utusan, I'm running linux mint, I just have to do a manual kernel update.  Wanted to get a similar version from the PPA
[17:34] <bindi> I have let other people control my computer in vino-preferences, but VNC viewer says "cant connect", the machine is in my LAN and I'm SSH'd into it
[17:37] <utusan> coreyo: ok..but 3.8 is already EOL
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> utusan: What 3.8?
[17:37] <coreyo> utusan, EOL?
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> utusan: If you're talking GNOME, GNOME 3.8 just got here.
[17:38] <utusan> kernel 3.8 is no longer maintained - end of life
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> utusan: Since...?
[17:39] <coreyo> will 13.04 be staying with 3.8, or moving to another version?
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> utusan: Ubuntu still uses that kernel...
[17:39] <SonikkuAmerica> coreyo: Probably up to 3.9...?
[17:40] <coreyo> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:40] <bindi> how can i make sure vino is running?
[17:40] <bgardner> bindi: At a terminal: ps aux | grep vino
[17:40] <coreyo> 3.5 still produces kernel panics with certain usb3.0 hubs.  I'm trying to do a manual upgrade for now, but was trying to decide on the best choice.
[17:40] <bindi> bgardner: well it aint running in that cas
[17:43] <utusan> coreyo: SonikkuAmerica https://www.kernel.org/
[17:43] <ghufran_> hi, i have a basic problem with 13.04. i can't update the speed of the trackpad. whenever i update it from the Mouse and Trackpad settings and close it, the changes don't take effect and when i open it again, they're at the previous settings .. any help would be much appreciated
[17:43] <SonikkuAmerica> utusan: Eek. Time to migrate to linux-3.9 if you ask me
[17:44] <coreyo> utusan, yeah, no desire to manually compile except as a last resort
[17:44] <bgardner> bindi: Have you tried either checking syslog for vino messages or starting the vino-server process from the terminal to check the output?
[17:45] <DYSW> or use another distro if you need latest kernel in a easier way
[17:46] <utusan> ^^ don't have to..get latest kernel from kernel_mainline
[17:46] <utusan> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:47] <coreyo> utusan, right, I pasted that a little ways back in the history
[17:47] <Appu> Isn't the newer versions of ubuntu laggy?
[17:47] <coreyo> utusan, but might be best to stay with 3.8.13 to ensure compatibillity with the repo
[17:47] <DYSW> utusan: arch uses the newest kernel 99% of the times, updated the same day
[17:47] <rooted> is ubuntu debain-based ?
[17:48] <genii> rooted: Yes
[17:48] <utusan> Appu: no..it's racy  :)
[17:48] <DYSW> rooted: yes
[17:48] <Appu> Newer versions seems more like a toy. It's almost useless without a highspeed unlimited network connection
[17:49] <coreyo> rooted, the packages are separately maintained, but the general guts and package system are the same
[17:50] <mh_le> which user does minidlna run as?
[17:51] <rooted> if i download a .tar.gz , how i build the app inside it after the extract ?
[17:51] <rooted> gem ? or git ?
[17:51] <utusan> DYSW: I get the newest as well..
[17:51] <Zappierchris> Can I get help for ubuntu here
[17:52] <utusan> rooted: it depends
[17:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Zappierchris: Of course! Also (believe me, it's asked a lot) you can get it for free!@
[17:52] <DYSW> utusan: really, i havnt found a repo for that to ubuntu yet. is there one or are you doing it manually ?
[17:52] <utusan> rooted: like firefox, just extract and run firefox
[17:52] <Zappierchris> Okay, well, I have an old desktop PC, with XP on it and it was very slow, so I tried Ubuntu, I set it as default for some reason, but it bugged up, and on boot it shows some error about Grub
[17:53] <Zappierchris> but I can't choose windows because it doesn't load the keyboard at boot ._.#
[17:53] <utusan> DYSW: like I said you can get it from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:54] <DYSW> Zappierchris: try a live cd and get access to the grub files and change them. If no grub options shows up i would try that or a ubuntu repair option if there is one
[17:54] <Zappierchris> I wouldn't be able to select it
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> Zappierchris, Has Ubuntu booted at all?
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> utusan: Not that you had to worry about the EOL of 3.8... the Ubuntu kernel team is supporting linux-3.8 until 1/14
[17:55] <Zappierchris> I don't think so
[17:55] <DYSW> utusan: i know. But it doenst upgrade with apt-get upgrade
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> ! nick | Zappierchris
[17:55] <Appu> Zappierchris, What do you see on the screen when system boots. Any text.
[17:55] <Zappierchris> Last time I tried it was the OS selection screen, I'd need to go boot the PC to go chec
[17:55] <Zappierchris> check*
[17:55] <Zappierchris> one sec
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> Zappierchris, Sorry use the nick of who you are answering, the tab key will auto fill the nck
[17:56] <utusan> SonikkuAmerica: I'm not worried..:)
[17:58] <coreyo> what is contained in the linux-image-extra package?  It seems to be missing in all of the mainline PPA's after 3.8.8.
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> coreyo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/153023/what-is-the-linux-image-extra-package-for-and-do-i-need-it
[18:02] <chaudhary> Hi, I once set proxy for apt-get in /etc/apt/apt.conf and now I enptied the file to use without proxy, but it still connects using proxy. I tried rebooting the system after change. What should I do?
[18:02] <DJHenjin> I am trying to set up RSA Key authentication on my ubuntu 12.04 server, however every time I try to connect using putty, I get 'server refused our key' I have been googling for over an hour, tried many things including movind the authorized keys file outside of /home to no avail
[18:02] <chaudhary> s/enptied/emptied
[18:05] <zissou> hiall! so how to check where is a program installed
[18:06] <bgardner> zissou: Try: dpkg -L appname
[18:06] <coreyo> thank  you wilee-nilee
[18:07] <zissou> bgardner, tnx
[18:07] <Zappierchris> is there a way to hide the join/leave messages
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Zappierchris  depends on your client
[18:07] <Zappierchris> MonkeyDust: I'm using webchat
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Zappierchris  don't find how to do it with webchat
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Zappierchris  consider using a client https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#IRC_Clients
[18:13] <DJHenjin> can someone help me with my publickey login issues please?
[18:14] <bgardner> DJHenjin: What messages do you have from the server (as opposed to PuTTY's messages)?
[18:14] <DJHenjin> bgardner one sec ill pastebin
[18:16] <ChogyDan> I'm new to 64 bits, and I'm wondering why installing wine takes up so much space (150mb download, 500mb installed)   I'm guessing it has to do with all the 32bits things it is getting?
[18:19] <DJHenjin> bgardner here is what i get when i run sshd with the -d switch http://pastebin.com/8RDi1q8K
[18:22] <singh_abhinav> how to find AMD gpu temp in ubuntu 13.04
[18:22] <bgardner> DJHenjin: And is the path indicated for authorized_keys (/etc/ssh/publicSSHkeys/authorized_keys) where you have the key you are trying to use?
[18:22] <DJHenjin> bgardner: Yes it is in that file.
[18:23] <bgardner> DJHenjin: What is the output of 'file /etc/ssh/publicSSHkeys/authorized_keys' ?
[18:23] <ghufran_> hi, i have a basic problem with 13.04. i can't update the speed of the trackpad. whenever i update it from the Mouse and Trackpad settings and close it, the changes don't take effect and when i open it again, they're at the previous settings .. any help would be much appreciated
[18:23] <servvs> I am unable to login to any TTY terminals since I upgraded to 13.04
[18:24] <DJHenjin> bgardner 'OpenSSH RSA public key'
[18:26] <arooni-mobile> installed my-weather-indicator on ubuntu 13.04; now it wont run as an indiciator;  do i need to restart my ocmputer first?
[18:27] <sere> ghufran_:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/42867/modifying-mouse-touchpad-sensitivity
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile  restart to find out
[18:28] <trism> arooni-mobile: if it is an appindicator, you may have to run some program to show it
[18:28] <trism> arooni-mobile: if not you just need to log out/back in
[18:28] <arooni-mobile> also; not sure if anyone is using calendar-indicator; but the show calendar optoin doesnt yield a calendar;
[18:30] <chaudhary> Can somebody please help me with the apt-get issue mentioned above?
[18:30] <servvs> I am unable to login to any TTY terminals since I upgraded to 13.04, is this a common issue and is there any way to fix it?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> chaudhary  repeat it in oe line, so we can easily read it
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> one*
[18:33] <chaudhary> Hi, I once set the proxy for apt-get in /etc/apt/apt.conf and now I emptied the file to use without proxy, but it still connects using proxy.
[18:33] <chaudhary> I tried rebooting the system after change. What should I do?
[18:34] <singh_abhinav> how much CPU temp is okay for a laptop with normal browsing :)
[18:39] <lampsBR> Hi guys, I'm running tomcat 7.0.26.0 installed from apt-get in a ubuntu 12.04 64bit system, with oracle jdk version 1.7.0.21.b11. I want to know where is the correct place to set the parameter "-Djava.awt.headless=true". This parameter may help me to solve a problem...
[18:40] <sere> singh_abhinav:  it depends on the labtop.. they are different.. look at the specs and that should tell you the operation temps
[18:41] <chaudhary> Nevermind just found out, 2 things: unset $http_proxy and use DIRECT in apt.conf :)
[18:41] <singh_abhinav> okay sere ..my laptop temp is between 55-60 with normal browsing
[18:42] <Sub-Zero_> 60C should be OK for laptop
[18:43] <sere> singh_abhinav: 60c is ok .. im in the 50s but my max operation temp is like 90-100 i think
[18:43] <Walex> singh_abhinav: browsing can be quite CPU intensive, especially if you have flash and JavaScript enabled
[18:44] <Walex> singh_abhinav: my laptop when mostly quiest has CPU and motherboard temperatures around 50C.
[18:45] <singh_abhinav> Walex:  yeah i understand that :)
[18:45] <b1n4ry_> Hi, I just came across the concept of fstab. How would one set up fstab ? From what I read about fstab was all the partitions listed under it aare automatically mounted. I am confused.
[18:45] <Walex> b1n4ry_: no, not all automatically. Only those not marked 'noauto'
[18:46] <Sub-Zero_> to reduce CPU temp open the laptop clean heatsink and apply the best thermal past you can get. It does reduce CPU temp.
[18:46] <sere> b1n4ry_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:46] <clcto> auto is defualt though
[18:46] <b1n4ry_> Walex, So would exactly would setting up fstab mean?
[18:46] <clcto> b1n4ry_: man fstab
[18:46] <singh_abhinav> Walex:  sere  i have one problem . I have onboard and discrete graphics card, I have disabled discrete graphics card but it still my fan is running like any thing ...how should i fix that .. i am using ubuntu 13.04
[18:47] <Walex> b1n4ry_: basically 'fstab' is a set of defaults for the 'mount' command, plus optionally to actually run the 'mount' command.
[18:47] <arooni-mobile> is there a shortcut when in the windowed mode; like the scale plugin; that i can close a window?
[18:47] <Walex> singh_abhinav: that's a long exploration to do. You have to figure out what is keeping the CPU running, because it is usually the CPU.
[18:47] <Walex> singh_abhinav: check first with 'top'
[18:48] <Walex> arooni-mobile: 'ALT-F4'?
[18:48] <clcto> Walex: as well as optionally backup and check the partition
[18:48] <arooni-mobile> Walex, yup that worked hthere thanks
[18:48] <singh_abhinav> Walex:  my CPU uses is around 2% only
[18:48] <Walex> singh_abhinav: there is also 'powertop' but it is almost useless.
[18:48] <b1n4ry_> Walex, So you can edit fstab for various partitions but how exactly would you "set-up" fstab? My friend told me to set up fstab and I do not understand what exactly would that mean?
[18:49] <clcto> b1n4ry_: you edit /etc/fstab
[18:49] <Walex> singh_abhinav: sometimes there is no proper driver for the laptop fan and it defaults to spin all the time.
[18:49] <singh_abhinav> Walex:  oh okay
[18:49] <b1n4ry_> clcto, Is that exaclty setting up fstab?
[18:49] <Walex> clcto: the backup and check partition columns are nearly obsolete...
[18:49] <b1n4ry_> *exactly
[18:50] <sere> singh_abhinav:  you can use conky to monitor temps,top cpu/memory but it takes alittle bit of work to set up
[18:50] <BluesKaj> !fstab | b1n4ry_
[18:50] <mbeierl> b1n4ry_, fstab is the file system table.  It lists what file systems and what their mount points are for your computer.
[18:51] <kristenbb> what would be the easiest way to encrypt a file so that it can be easily decrypted on windows with a password?
[18:51] <clcto> b1n4ry_: yes. basically all setting relating to the kernel and *nix utils just use files as settings
[18:51] <Walex> singh_abhinav: but not necessarily your case. Check by doing a search online.
[18:51] <mbeierl> b1n4ry_, you don't need to "set it up" beyond what the installer does normally.
[18:51] <clcto> kristenbb: prolly truecrypt
[18:51] <Walex> singh_abhinav: but not necessarily your case. Check by doing a search online. With your laptop model as one of the keywords
[18:52] <kristenbb> clcto: isn't that drive encryption ?
[18:52] <singh_abhinav> i have sony vaio ..i have found some thing called vaiofand Walex
[18:52] <clcto> kristenbb: doesnt have to be
[18:52] <kristenbb> clcto: so can you please guide me through the process of encrypting it ?
[18:53] <sere> singh_abhinav: http://snag.gy/v6SOF.jpg : example of conky..
[18:53] <Walex> singh_abhinav: that seems named appropriately. Look also at 'fancontrol' perhaps.
[18:53] <clcto> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt
[18:53] <clcto> kristenbb: often google is your friend
[18:54] <Walex> clcto: but Google is a rather nosy friend...
[18:54] <Walex> clcto: but Google is a rather nosy friend... :-)
[18:54] <clcto> Walex: then use ddg
[18:55] <singh_abhinav> sere: that link is not having any image :)
[18:57] <Walex> b1n4ry_: I have a somewhat elaborate 'fstab', and it might look like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752599/
[18:58] <b1n4ry_> Walex, Thanks :)
[19:00] <sere> singh_abhinav: its not saving my screenshot for some reason :/
[19:01] <m4jid> Hi
[19:05] <bgardner> m4jid: Hello
[19:06] <mehdi_> I updated /etc/security/limits.conf such that my FD for user "primeuser" is 4k (soft) and 10k (hard) however when I issue the command "ulimit -Hn" and "ulimit -Sn",  I see 1024 and 4096. What gives?
[19:07] <m4jid> i just installed xubuntu(already asked on xubuntu channel) i have gforce gt 430
[19:07] <m4jid> and proprietry drive
[19:07] <m4jid> i have dual display i have in correct resolution!
[19:07] <alix_> is it safe to disable bind9 service?
[19:07] <sere> singh_abhinav: http://pbrd.co/13y5lQs
[19:08] <m4jid> How can i install the driver that i downloaded from nvidia website from xfce it tells i have to quit x enviroment
[19:08] <m4jid> so how can i install video driver ?
[19:09] <sere> m4jid: why do you need the drivers from nvidias site?
[19:09] <m4jid> i told you because with proprietary driver i have in correct resolution
[19:10] <m4jid> reboot , brb
[19:13] <[diablo]> Good evening #ubuntu …  I've installed 3 times now Ubuntu 13.04 from a USB stick… all good, except GRUB2 fails to boot every time..
[19:13] <[diablo]> I get read error
[19:13] <trism> mehdi_: worked here, did you log in again after making changes?
[19:14] <singh_abhinav> sere:  do you have GPU?
[19:14] <TheUsD> Any known issues with a windows machine teamviewering into a ubuntu machine?
[19:14] <sere> singh_abhinav: not on this machine but you can easily add it, if you have it
[19:15] <[diablo]> He's got 'sda' which is a 32GB SSD (Windows 7), a 'sdb' which is a 1TB NTFS data drive finally 'sde' which is a 250GB SATA where we want to install Ubuntu… I tried putting grub on sea, no booting (and booting from sda first)
[19:15] <singh_abhinav> but i think there is no way to see GPU temp if we are using open source driver
[19:15] <[diablo]> I tried installing grub on sde and booting from it, same error
[19:16] <chadmandoo> Hey all.  I have a question regarding the best way to implement a mail server.  I have some website I am hosting ona  self managed server but I understand the issue with spam.  I am wanting to possibly redirect my mail to a known server for relay.  What is the best way of doing this?  I have looked into using postfix + gmail
[19:16] <[diablo]> mobo is a GA-Z68AP-D3
[19:16] <sere> singh_abhinav: you can pretty much output anything to conky
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> chadmandoo  #ubuntu-server
[19:16] <sere> singh_abhinav: are you using nvidia?
[19:16] <mehdi_> trism: I'm in a screen session, I wonder if that's the reason
[19:16] <daftykins> [diablo]: are the SATA devices straddling different SATA controllers?
[19:17] <singh_abhinav> no its amd radeon sere
[19:17] <[diablo]> evening daftykins nope, all direct to mobo
[19:17] <daftykins> [diablo]: sure but are they all using the intel controller ports? there's no secondary controller onboard?
[19:18] <kristenbb> what would be the easiest way to encrypt a file so that it can be easily decrypted on windows with a password?
[19:18] <[diablo]> daftykins, let me check
[19:18] <TheUsD> Any known issues with a windows machine teamviewering into a ubuntu machine?
[19:18] <[diablo]> daftykins, just check the mobo manual
[19:18] <daftykins> [diablo]: ok just looked up the board spec, looks like there's no third party controller. just 6 chipset provided SATA ports, 2 x 6Gb and 4 x 3Gb naturally
[19:19] <disputin>  anyone know how to break raid10?
[19:19] <daftykins> [diablo]: is Windows7 installed in EFI mode? does ubuntu 13.04 on the flash drive boot in EFI mode?
[19:19] <daftykins> disputin: why would you want to?
[19:19] <sere> singh_abhinav: i believe if you have aticonfig it should work.. here is an example http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566126
[19:19] <disputin> I need to do an os upgrade and I'd like to fail out 2 disks as a backup if needed
[19:19] <genii> kristenbb: Probably zip with the -e switch
[19:19] <[diablo]> daftykins, I made the flash drive in Mac OSX
[19:20] <kristenbb> genii: and then on windows?
[19:20] <[diablo]> daftykins, and no idea about the Windows 7 if its EFI or not
[19:20] <daftykins> !efi
[19:20] <daftykins> [diablo]: have a look at the above link and see where it shows you if the flash drive is booting in EFI or legacy mode.
[19:20] <[diablo]> yup
[19:20] <genii> kristenbb: When you went to unzip, it would prompt you for the password usually ( in winzip or whatever unzipper)
[19:21] <[diablo]> cheers daftykins many thanks
[19:21] <daftykins> [diablo]: no problemo, i'd also be curious what sdc and sdd are :D
[19:21] <disputin> for raid 1 it's easy, fail a drive do the upgrade and readd the drive
[19:22] <kristenbb> genii: and what kind of encryption does -e use ?
[19:22] <disputin> but for raid 10, which drives do I fail out?
[19:22] <genii> kristenbb: No idea.
[19:24] <DrFoo> how do I have a script execute when I log into gnome?
[19:25] <daftykins> disputin: are you saying you want to upgrade your OS only on 50% of the RAID 10 array so you can revert if necessary?
[19:25] <daftykins> kristenbb: nice to see you back. i'm beginning to think you deal with super secret data? ;)
[19:26] <kristenbb> daftykins: not so much just trying to send a file to a friend that is too big for an email
[19:26] <kristenbb> daftykins: nice to see you too
[19:27] <daftykins> kristenbb: online hosting choices not an option? or one of you creating a user account/FTP server and sharing the file?
[19:27] <aum> hi - just installed 12.04LTS, can't get Unity running, only Unity 2D, my box has Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller, and I do have xserver-xorg-intel installed. What am I missing? How can I troubleshoot this?
[19:27] <daftykins> aum: that hardware sounds way too ancient to get Unity 3D running i'm afraid.
[19:28] <kristenbb> daftykins: well yes I think i'm going for an online hosting choice, but if I do so I'd like it not to be accessible to everyone else, hence the encryption
[19:29] <daftykins> kristenbb: makes sense. if you hosted FTP locally though you wouldn't have to trust a 3rd party - depends if the level of setup (installing, configuring a user, forwarding ports on your router) is too much effort
[19:30] <kristenbb> my computer is not always on
[19:30] <daftykins> [diablo]: oh just another thought, make sure you're not installing from USB3 too, yeah?
[19:30] <genii> kristenbb: Maybe use pgp/gpg
[19:30] <[diablo]> daftykins, the usb3 issue is what exactly?
[19:30] <kristenbb> genii: that requires prior setting, with exchange of keys, right?
[19:31] <daftykins> [diablo]: always best to install any OS from USB2 ports really
[19:31] <[diablo]> ok
[19:31] <kristenbb> I think i'm just gonna go with zip -e it's good enough for my purpose
[19:31] <genii> kristenbb: You don't have to exchange private keys for pgp to work.
[19:31] <kristenbb> public ones
[19:33] <disputin> daftykins
[19:33] <disputin> yes as a fallback
[19:34] <disputin> the server's about 30 miles away and I'm doing the upgrade over a IPMI daughter card
[19:34] <daftykins> disputin: sounds like an absolutely terrible idea :D what are you upgrading from and to?
[19:35] <[diablo]> daftykins, I'd say nothing is EFI...
[19:35] <^Mike> What does ??????? mean in ls output? http://p.hashbang.ca/eo
[19:36] <disputin> daftykins: from debian squeeze to ubuntu precise server
[19:36] <daftykins> disputin: sounds more like a reinstall than 'upgrade'
[19:36] <hex``> is there a way to recover what I jsut rm -rf'ed?
[19:36] <jrib> !undelete | hex``
[19:37] <disputin> daftykins migrating from openvz to lxc
[19:37] <disputin> daftykins: if you like
[19:38] <pozori> how can I see the Apple keynote here https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2013/
[19:38] <daftykins> disputin: is the RAID provided by software or a hardware controller? sounds risky to me
[19:38] <pozori> what plugin I need?
[19:38] <disputin> disputin: linux software raid, everything is backed up
[19:39] <daftykins> pozori: it's just going to give a recording afterwards, it's not a live feed. the page says quicktime video.
[19:39] <disputin> daftykins: thanks, anyway
[19:40] <mayhew> Hey guys. I noticed Ubuntu 12.04 packages python-django v1.3.X. It no longer gets security updates upstream. Does Ubuntu still backport security fixes for it?
[19:40] <daftykins> disputin: np, good luck with it
[19:40] <pozori> daftykins: I can't watch any of those apple event videos
[19:40] <aum> daftykins, what do you mean, too ancient?!? It runs Doom just fine! :P
[19:40] <daftykins> pozori: i clicked the 'Mac Pro' one and it's not a video. what browser are you using?
[19:41] <daftykins> aum: ;) i hear ya. i think you're going to have to stick to something like xubuntu if you want to run 13.04
[19:41] <pozori> daftykins: there should be a video right there on the page.
[19:41] <Zeph88> Hello, can anyone please point me in the direction to a tutorial on how to properly setup ftp users for a web environment. What I mean is I don't need users with the ability to do anything but log into FTP, and I only want them to be able to access a directory (and it's children). I tried vsftpd, but it doesn't seem right for this project.
[19:42] <daftykins> pozori: no, it says 'Available shortly. Please check back soon.' to me
[19:42] <aum> daftykins, it runs 12.04LTS just fine with Unity 2D. Ubuntu 13 won't run on it at all, not even Unity 2D
[19:42] <tarci> ubuntu.it
[19:42] <pozori> it says nothing to me, just blank white space
[19:42] <pozori> firefox
[19:42] <daftykins> pozori: must be something up with your browser/plugins
[19:42] <pozori> no shit?
[19:42] <pozori> that's what I was asking about
[19:42] <daftykins> pozori: well why are you asking then? :D
[19:43] <pozori> because I don't know what's missing like I said
[19:43] <daftykins> i've got flash on in Windows and i see the message
[19:43] <daftykins> maybe try chromium for fun?
[19:43] <pozori> tried
[19:43] <pozori> and that's quicktime video
[19:43] <pozori> sorry but you are completely useless daftykins
[19:44] <daftykins> pozori: i don't know, i told you there isn't a video there... also i've nothing quicktime installed and i can read the message - so there's that
[19:44] <TheUsD> anyone know the iis7 channel?
[19:44] <daftykins> try the windows one maybe?
[19:45] <tgm4883> daftykins, do you have medibuntu?
[19:45] <daftykins> tgm4883: no, why?
[19:45] <tgm4883> daftykins, pozori http://askubuntu.com/questions/1695/watch-quicktime-videos-in-the-browser
[19:46] <tgm4883> daftykins, I'm guessing ubuntu-restricted-extras installed then
[19:46] <daftykins> pozori: ah ok the website lies to me - it does have a live feed but only when the quicktime equivalent is installed
[19:46] <daftykins> tgm4883: good man - that's your answer pozori
[19:47] <daftykins> pozori: thanks for being so polite anyways
[19:47] <bray90820> Why is ubuntu not seeing my external raid box
[19:47] <daftykins> bray90820: how's it connected?
[19:48] <bray90820> esata
[19:48] <daftykins> opened a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[19:48] <daftykins> to see if it lists it?
[19:49] <kristenbb> In compiz manager, in order to remove the icons of the mounted drives, I  used to go to ccsm -> Unity plugin → Experimental Tab -> Show  Devices = Never.  Now it has apparently disappeared. What is the new way to achieve this ?
[19:51] <bray90820> daftykins: it does see it
[19:52] <daftykins> bray90820: sounds like you just need to mount the filesystem then perhaps?
[19:52] <bray90820> if it means anything it says "does not start on a physical sector boundary"
[19:52] <daftykins> bray90820: nah that's no biggy.
[19:53] <bray90820> I tried mounting it with "sudo mount" but it said it wasn't found
[19:53] <daftykins> bray90820: could you use pastebin to paste the output from the fdisk command?
[19:53] <aperture> sup sup
[19:53] <daftykins> bray90820: and are you familiar with mounting via command line?
[19:54] <bray90820> "sudo mount" is what i used and i will paste bin it
[19:58] <bray90820> Here is the pastebin
[19:58] <bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aC1aTJdb
[19:58] <bray90820> oh and i am using a live disk if it means anything
[19:59] <DrFoo> I can't mount a filesystem using a credentials file in 12.04
[19:59] <sere> bray90820: i think you have to specify what kind of device you are trying to mount
[19:59] <bray90820> daftykins: just pining you to make sure you got my above messages
[19:59] <daftykins> bray90820: oh sorry, just seen now
[19:59] <bray90820> I am trying to mount a 4TB hardware raid
[19:59] <DrFoo> sere: I usually give:
[20:00] <DrFoo> sudo mount -t cifs -o username=foo,passwd=bar //sever/share /mnt/
[20:00] <DrFoo> this always works.
[20:00] <aum> daftykins the problem with the other *buntus - xubuntu and lubuntu - is they can't do proper bluetooth
[20:00] <daftykins> bray90820: i'm not seeing a 4TB device
[20:00] <DrFoo> sere: Unless my syntax is wrong
[20:00] <bray90820> It's a raid 0 made with 2 disks
[20:01] <daftykins> bray90820: is it sda and sdc possibly?
[20:01] <bray90820> there is also a fakeraid made with windows
[20:01] <bray90820> it's esata
[20:01] <daftykins> bray90820: which device in the fdisk output do you think is your eSATA one though?
[20:01] <aum> does anyone know why most of the items in gnome control centre are disabled when running from openbox or other desktop environments?
[20:01] <sere> DrFoo: sever/share? typo?
[20:02] <daftykins> sere: he meant //server/share ;)
[20:02] <DrFoo> sere: well yes, I meant "server"/share    server is my smb server and share is the file share
[20:02] <Skymont> so with Ubuntu Touch, will Ubuntu have remote access to your device just like how Google Android has remote access with "emergency purposes" with Google Services?
[20:02] <sere> daftykins: oh ok :)
[20:03] <daftykins> !touch | Skymont
[20:03] <DrFoo> sere: do you mount smb/cifs file systems?
[20:04] <Re-L> hi
[20:04] <sere> DrFoo: i have before yes, but its been awhile
[20:04] <daftykins> bray90820: sorry i've got to head off and get some food now. i would recommend you boot without this eSATA device connected, run 'sudo fdisk -l' again, then connect it and see how it changes to identify which devices they are. i have no clue looking at that output
[20:04] <bray90820> daftykins: /dev/sda1
[20:04] <sere> DrFoo: im trying to see what i can find for you
[20:04] <DrFoo> sere: this seems like a big bug, if it is, in fact, a bug
[20:04] <bray90820> that's what i think my esata drive is
[20:04] <Re-L> is there a python developers?
[20:04] <DrFoo> sere: thanks
[20:05] <DrFoo> sere: I could just be doing it wrong too... there's lots of wrong info on the web
[20:05] <xangua> Re-L: probably on a python channel ;)
[20:06] <bray90820> daftykins: so should i boot without the raid plugged in and re pastebin the output
[20:06] <daftykins> bray90820: yeah, i've gotta go now though - you might have to wait for someone else to help, sorry
[20:06] <nimbiotics> Re-L, just type "/join #python"
[20:06] <bray90820> Alright
[20:06] <bray90820> Can anyone else help me?
[20:09] <bray90820> So can anyone else help me with my raid
[20:11] <sere> DrFoo: whats the output when you try to connect?
[20:16] <DrFoo> sere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5752806/
[20:16] <sere> DrFoo: i pulled this from the web, its worth a shot: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=foo,passwd=bar //sever/share /mnt/]
[20:17] <DrFoo> sere: That's what I've been doing since the credential files don't work
[20:17] <sere> DrFoo: no this :) sudo mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt -o username=foo,passwd=bar
[20:17] <DrFoo> they both work, but you don't want to put your password in a script
[20:17] <DrFoo> so you should call the credentials from a credentials file
[20:18] <DrFoo> ls
[20:18] <sere> DrFoo: //myserver_ip_address/myshare  /media/samba_share  cifs  noauto,credentials=/etc/samba/user,noexec  0 0
[20:18] <sere> DrFoo: like that ?
[20:19] <DrFoo> that has some extra options, but I'll try it.
[20:20] <DrFoo> sere: nope. I think that's for fstab
[20:20] <sere> DrFoo: yea that is for fstab
[20:21] <bray90820> Yea so apparently fdisk doesn't even show that my raid is plugged in
[20:23] <sere> DrFoo: it looks ok to me but its been awhile i could be missing something..i dont dunno
[20:23] <sparr> I want to prevent a user from changing their password in any way, but I want to allow them to install new software. What do I need to do to their sudo rights?
[20:23] <DrFoo> sere: ok. thxc
[20:23] <DrFoo> Thanks
[20:23] <Will> Hey all :)
[20:23] <sere> DrFoo: np i wish i could help more
[20:23] <clcto> you dont need sudo to change your password ...
[20:25] <Will> I've just gone and made a virtualBox ubuntu server, have it up and running and type my IP in the web browser from a different node and it displays the Works!   -   my question is, what is a reccomended user panel for a simple web server, is Zpanel good, opinions?
[20:26] <clcto> but sparr: do a little reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132821
[20:26] <OMGPROD> Hi
[20:27] <sparr> clcto: I'm interested in allowing GUI administrative tasks as well, so the commands to put into sudoers are not straightforward
[20:27] <mayhew> Will: the recommended user panel is SSH ;)
[20:28] <Will> mayhew: haha of course, but I need a userpanel as a testing enviroment for setting up a user friendly system :)
[20:29] <sere> DrFoo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide i dunno if you have been here or not
[20:29] <mayhew> Will: don't quote me on it, but I heard webmin is decent
[20:29] <DJones> !webmin | mayhew Will Just for info,
[20:30] <mayhew> ahh nevermind haha
[20:30] <Will> Think i will go for Zpanel then haha
[20:30] <Will> not too worry
[20:32] <Will> Also, if i have part installed a auto installing script from a zpanel source.zip containing .sh scripts is there a way to undo this so i can start again, wasnt sure if there was a way to remove something from the system
[20:33] <Will> didnt want to spend the next 20mins reinstalling it, not that its a great problem. But is there a command to list what is installed or a way to undo an installation(s)
[20:33] <Knecht_Ruprecht> hi
[20:34] <schoppenhauer> hello. is it possible to install the extlinux-binaries without the package trying to manipulate my grub bootloader?
[20:34] <Z3RG> !list
[20:34] <schoppenhauer> I want extlinux for external usb-sticks.
[20:35] <sere> DrFoo: is your credentials file owned by root.. i know its in ~ but from what im reading it should be
[20:35] <sparr> err
[20:35] <sparr> I am supposed to be installing Ubuntu 13.04 and the installer says "Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS"
[20:35] <mayhew> Will: if you use the normal Ubuntu tools for installing packages like apt and dpkg, you can view what's installed
[20:35] <samgabbay> Hello Samgabbay here to assist :)
[20:35] <torrenza> hey guys i know this is the wrong channel, but I've got some questions on patent law that i really need help figuring out. anybody?
[20:36] <DJones> !ot | torrenza You may get some help in the Ubuntu offtopic channel,
[20:36] <Z3RG> Привет, есть кто на киррилице?
[20:36] <Z3RG> )
[20:36] <torrenza> thanks
[20:36] <DrFoo> sere: I own the cred file
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !ru | Z3RG
[20:37] <DJones> !ru | Z3RG
[20:37] <kristenbb> In compiz manager, in order to remove the icons of the mounted drives, I  used to go to ccsm -> Unity plugin → Experimental Tab -> Show  Devices = Never.  Now it has apparently disappeared. What is the new way to achieve this ?
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: 13.04?
[20:38] <kristenbb> yes
[20:38] <DJones> sparr: Are you certain that you downloaded 13.04? It sounds like you may have selected the LTS version (12.04) rather than the latest release (13.04)
[20:38] <sparr> DJones: yes, it does sound like that
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: System Settings > Appearance > Behavio(u)r tab, and there's a check box
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Oh no wait... that's for workspaces... *facepalm*
[20:38] <kristenbb> :/
[20:38] <DJones> sparr: If you've still got the iso, check the name or the md5 sum to verify which one you have
[20:38] <Will> mayhew, i've got ubuntu server 13.04 installed - what are the normal ways to see whats installed?
[20:39] <Z3RG> i need help... I need registered
[20:39] <mayhew> Will: dpkg -l | grep 'apache' (would show all packages installed with apache in the name)
[20:39] <Z3RG> help me... push command for this
[20:40] <DJones> Z3RG: Help to register your nick?
[20:40] <Z3RG> yes
[20:40] <sere> DrFoo: you can add --verbose before -o and it might give you alittle more info
[20:40] <DJones> !register | Z3RG
[20:40] <sparr> DJones: nope, it's on the drive the installer just wiped clean. no big deal.
[20:40] <danny> anyone here speaking chinese?
[20:40] <danny> plz
[20:40] <Z3RG> thx
[20:40] <DJones> !cn | danny
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: What I meant was unlock the drives from the launcher. Wow. :\
[20:41] <sparr> DJones: gonna revisit my decision on 12.04 vs 13.04 for a laptop I'm giving to a not-too-savvy friend, since 13.04 just became much longer to install :)
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: That will blacklist the drive from appearing.
[20:41] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: forever or just for this session ?
[20:41] <DJones> sparr: Sounds like 12.04 may be a better idea as its LTS, less for them to worry about and have to upgrade more often
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb >>> According to this source : http://askubuntu.com/questions/195988/how-to-remove-launcher-drive-icons <<< it appears to ditch it forever. You can change it back in dconf-editor or gsettings.
[20:42] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: ok, thanks.
[20:43] <mayhew> sparr: non-LTS releases of Ubuntu are essentially betas for the next LTS anyways.
[20:43] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: a somewhat similar question, do you know how to put the close, minimize, maximize icons to the right AND keep a contextual menu on the left of a window that appears when the top left corner is pressed ?
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Well, if you remember how gconf-editor did it for pre-11.04 Ubuntu...
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: (One second)
[20:45] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: In older versions, I used to do gconftool -s  /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string  menu:minimize,maximize,close. Now apparently it doesn't work anymore. I did gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ":minimize,maximize,close" and it works, but the thing on the left corner disappeared.
[20:45] <vjarjadian> Anyone here know if Ubuntu 13.04 is supporting Hyper-V Dynamic Memory? I've seen many locations specifying 12.** doesnt but a couple state 13.** does.
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: I believe the command should be [ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" ]
[20:46] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: see above.
[20:46] <Fuzzles> hod do i find out what wireless card i have
[20:46] <sere> Fuzzles: lspci
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: You forgot the "thing on the left corner"?
[20:47] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Or are you thinking about another "thing on the left corner"?
[20:47] <DJones> Fuzzles: PCI or USB plug in stick? if PCI use LSPCI, if USB use LSUSB
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: If you're talking about the window control menu, you need to put the menu button in front of the colon like I did in my rewrite of your command.
[20:49] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: well I don't know how to call it, but if I did the first command (gconftool -s ...) on ubuntu 12.04, the close/minimize/maximize buttons went to the right AND a new icon appeared on the left ("the thing" on the top left, which looks like a circle), which, if left clicked, would show a contextual menu. I was used to it to give another way to close a window from its left edge. Now with the new command, this icon doesn't exist anym
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Yeah, like I said before... your button layout argument was ":minimize,maximize,close"
[20:50] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: yes this is it thank you, I had forgotten the menu part.
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Yep. You're welcome.
[20:51] <samgabbay> lalalllalalalallalalalalala
[20:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | samgabbay
[20:51] <SonikkuAmerica> samgabbay: I'd think #ubuntu-singing would be more appropriate myself... :\
[20:51] <silare> How do I change the Unity Panel font? FOr some reason it's using boldface fonts when my "default/desktop" font is a normal font...
[20:51] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[20:53] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica: please allow me to ask yet another question, you seem to know a bit about unity and 12.04/13.04 differences: I now have a roughly two pixel wide purple line on the left edge of the screen. This stays even when the screen blackens, and is not part of a screenshot. WHat could cause this ?
[20:53] <basiclaser> hi guys, noob here, when mv -ing files and directories is there a way to avoid writing the entire directory out? Also i keep getting told that /home/Documents doesn't exist, what's up with that? any tutorial links welcome
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Well, it could be a screen problem if it's not part of a screenshot.
[20:54] <bgardner> basiclaser: Sounds like you're referencing "My Documents" or similar without quotes.
[20:54] <markypoo> hello
[20:55] <kristenbb> SonikkuAmerica:  I doubt it, the color is very similar to a ubuntu color, and didn't appear in 12.04 with the same screen.
[20:55] <bgardner> basiclaser: Paths with spaces in them must be quoted in order to cp, mv, etc.
[20:55] <Guest60335> how do i force a basic boot up on fedora 18 after i fail to install the video driver
[20:55] <Guest60335> ubuntu is garbage btw too much spyware
[20:55] <bgardner> Really, in the Ubuntu support channel?
[20:55] <bandit2992> basiclaser: are you copying using the UI or from command line?
[20:55] <Guest60335> i did a ctrl+alt+f1 and kill the gdm and relog on it gave me chinese language
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> kristenbb: Well, if it didn't appear in another incarnation of Ubuntu...
[20:56] <Guest60335> this was on ubuntu 12.10
[20:56] <Guest60335> so now i'm installing fedora 18 on my system.
[20:56] <sere> Guest60335: spyware?
[20:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest60335: You know you can turn that stuff off or use another "flavor," right?!
[20:57] <basiclaser> bandit2992: bgardner: the file name was just called documents, not my documents. is it something to do with writing 'home'? do i have to write my actual username?
[20:58] <bgardner> basiclaser: You said when "mv-ing", what is the command line that gave you an error?
[20:58] <dooglus> how do I tell gnome-terminal which browser to open urls in?
[20:58] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:58] <bandit2992> basiclaser: probably you want your documents in /home/[youruser]/documents
[20:58] <basiclaser> bgardner: yes i used mv
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> basiclaser: Your home folder can be also be specified by a tilde ( ~ ). Also, "Documents" is case-sensitive.
[20:59] <dooglus> how do I tell gnome-terminal which browser to open urls in?
[20:59] <markypoo> a/s/l?
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> markypoo: This isn't Omegle.
[20:59] <markypoo> lol, j/m
[20:59] <mayhew> dooglus: it just uses the default browser
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: Type its name in the terminal, followed by the web address.
[21:00] <markypoo> first time in here
[21:00] <basiclaser> bandit2992: thanks! i had to chuck in another 'home'. so my folder 'basiclaser' is labeled home, even though it's parent folder is actually called home ?? D: wtf :D
[21:00] <k1l_> markypoo: this is a technical support channel. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[21:00] <dooglus> mayhew: and how do I set the default browser?  I've set the default xfce4 browser, but gnome-terminal is presumably using some gnome setting
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: If you want the default browser to open it, use xdg-open.
[21:00] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: I mean when I see a link in a terminal, and I right-click it then 'open link'
[21:01] <bgardner> basiclaser: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HomeFolder
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: (Unity) Search your dash for "Default Applications" or "Preferred Applications"
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: (I think it's the former)
[21:01] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: I use xfce4 not unity
[21:02] <dooglus> I guess what I'm asking is what program does 'preferred applications' un, so I can run it here
[21:02] <basiclaser> bgardner: thanks :) may i ask you one final small question? how do i move the contents of a folder 'up one level' in the same folder as the content's parent folder?
[21:02] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: In XFCE, open the settings manager and select "Preferred Applications"
[21:02] <BluesKaj> to set the default browser,  sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[21:02] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: I've set the xfce4 preferred browser, but gnome-terminal is using the gnome preferred browser setting, so I need to change that too
[21:03] <bandit2992> basiclaser: mv ./myFolder ../
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: Then use [ sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ] in a terminal.
[21:03] <bgardner> basiclaser: What he said.
[21:03] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: Excuse me, sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser
[21:03] <dooglus> BluesKaj: that shows the browser I want already as 'auto'
[21:03] <dhci> anyone know how a fix for wrong XKB layout with keyboards attached to the VCP.
[21:04] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: that too
[21:04] <BluesKaj> dooglus, then you have to install another browser , if you have only one
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: I assume you only have Firefox...?
[21:05] <basiclaser> bandit2992: says i cant, 'directory not empty'. to clarify, that command moves the contents of a folder but not the folder itself right?
[21:05] <dooglus> BluesKaj: I have firefox and chromium.  I want links to open in chromium, but they open in firefox
[21:05] <dooglus> BluesKaj: however: $ sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser | grep auto
[21:05] <dooglus>   0            /usr/bin/chromium-browser   40        auto mode
[21:06] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: There's a bug that won't let Google Chrome or Chromium be the default browser. It's more than enough to set it to open when you click "Web Browser" in the XFCE apps menu.
[21:06] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: I had it working on my old laptop so I'm sure it's possible
[21:09] <basiclaser> bgardner: ah i got it! :D 'mv * ../' go me
[21:09] <goddard> is there a way I can easily search through system processes by keyword?
[21:09] <tucemiux> anybody knows if there's an ubuntu tablet yet in the market?  Apparently the OS is there but is there hardware available for it?
[21:10] <goddard> like say I wanted to do a search through running processes to check and see if ubuntu one was running
[21:10] <tucemiux> goddard, pd aux | grep NAME_OF_PROCESS_HERE
[21:10] <tucemiux> goddard, sorry -->ps aux
[21:11] <goddard> tucemiux: ok so that returned 20319  0.0  0.0  13628   964 pts/6    S+   14:11   0:00 grep --color=auto ubuntu one
[21:12] <goddard> that means it is running?
[21:12] <bgardner> goddard: No, that was the grep search itself that you found
[21:12] <tucemiux> try searching for just "one"
[21:12] <oliver__2> nice one
[21:13] <oliver__2> ls lol
[21:13] <bgardner> goddard: Here's what it would look like: "bgardner  2427  0.0  0.3 521248 63376 ?        Sl   05:52   0:06 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon"
[21:13] <mayhew> dooglus: did you get it working?
[21:13] <tucemiux> ps aux | grep ubuntuone*
[21:14] <oliver__2> honestly, ive tried 4 different distros - ubuntu comes first
[21:14] <oliver__2> i tried mint, mageia, fedora, solusOS
[21:14] <oliver__2> all the above had issues with something
[21:14] <goddard> tucemiux: bgardner cool thanks
[21:14] <oliver__2> so, out of the box, ubuntu wins hands down
[21:15] <oliver__2> ive upgraded the kernel
[21:15] <oliver__2> installed window managers
[21:15] <oliver__2> nvidia drivers
[21:15] <oliver__2> the works - and it takes it
[21:16] <k1l_> oliver__2: if its not a specific technical support issue please keep this channel clear for other support issues. we got #ubuntu-offtopic for the chat :)
[21:16] <marianne> oliver__2: isn't it great when it all works?
[21:16] <fisherman> hi, have 13.04 installed on a IdeaPad y-500, set the bios to boot Ubuntu first it keeps defaulting to windows.
[21:21] <dooglus> I found the answer.  to set the preferred browser in gnome, run "gnome-control-center info".  It's distinct from any "sudo update-alternatives" setting, which gnome-terminal seems to ignore
[21:21] <daftykins> sudo would run something as root though.
[21:21] <daftykins> oh i get you
[21:22] <dooglus> I just like to answer my own questions when I find the answer, so I can find it in the logs next time I need it
[21:22] <dooglus> and maybe somebody else might find it useful too
[21:23] <jhutchins_wk> fisherman: the BIOS can usually only select which disk the MBR is read from, it can't usually select a partition.  Grub can do that.
[21:23] <daftykins> dooglus: yeah nothing wrong with that
[21:23] <jhutchins_wk> dooglus: Yes, appriciated.  Defaults in the console != defaults in gnome, so not surprizing.
[21:24] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: the problem is that even after I've opened chromium from the 'rat' menu, right-clicking a link in the terminal was still running firefox.  running "gnome-control-center info" allowed me to tell it to user chromium instead
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: On
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> *Oh
[21:28] <dooglus> SonikkuAmerica: I guess it's somewhat uncommon to see links in a terminal.  I run irssi in a terminal as my IRC client, so I see them a lot
[21:28] <SonikkuAmerica> dooglus: Oh.
[21:34] <UNITDLG2> loading
[21:36] <UNITDLG2> hello , my name is A.L.F.R.E.D. i am an interactive program set for testing here
[21:36] <UNITDLG2> please respond
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> UNITDLG2: ...
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !robot
[21:37] <UNITDLG2> please respond
[21:37] <marianne> UNITDLG2: Hello A.L.F.R.E.D.
[21:37] <UNITDLG2> hello
[21:38] <marianne> UNITDLG2: A.L.F.R.E.D  wjat type of interactive program are you?
[21:39] <UNITDLG2> my name is A.L.F.R.E.D. but you can call me Alfred
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Apparently a bot with not much AI. :P
[21:39] <vjarjadian> maybe it runs on ubuntu
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Thanks k1l_
[21:40] <marianne> SonikkuAmerica: That's what I was thinking...one typo and it died
[21:40] <kaytortuga_> join ##staff
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> marianne: ikr? Now back to Ubuntu support.
[21:41] <UNITDLG2> lost server
[21:41] <marianne> SonikkuAmerica: exactly.
[21:41] <k1l_> UNITDLG2: stop that
[21:41] <UNITDLG2> server back
[21:41] <UNITDLG2> hello
[21:41] <jbroome> !ping
[21:41] <k1l_> !guidelines > UNITDLG2
[21:42] <UNITDLG2> unable to read
[21:43] <DrFoo> is mount different from mount.cifs?  I thought mount -t cifs just called mount.cifs, but mount.cifs doesn't show up on my system.
[21:43] <stevePage129> http://askubuntu.com/questions/305701/my-emerson-liebert-ups-is-not-reporting-correctly-but-works-in-windows
[21:43] <stevePage129> if somebody could help me with my UPS issue.... ^
[21:47] <marianne> StevePage129: give us the details of what is wrong with your UPS, then the channel Gods can determine if they can help you or point you to the right chat
[21:47] <samgabbay> Hi everyone
[21:53] <st34lth> is systemctl enable same as chkconfig on
[21:55] <bekks> st34lth: chkconfig does not exist on ubuntu, neither does systemctl. Which linux are you actually running?
[21:56] <st34lth> lol i know im cheating bekks. lol i looked through the network and clicked the first linux distro help i found
[21:57] <bekks> st34lth: Well, then please stick to the channel of the distribution you are actually running, which isnt Ubuntu.
[21:58] <sparr> I need to confirm a bug in 12.04
[21:58] <sparr> can someone help me reproduce?
[21:59] <sparr> go to User Accounts and change your password
[21:59] <sparr> then go to a console and do "sudo chage yourusername -m 9999"
[21:59] <sparr> then go to User Accounts and try to change your password again
[22:00] <sparr> it appears to say "Wrong password" and refuse to let you change it, when it should give a min password age notice
[22:00] <bean__> sparr: it could be that the User Accounts GUI doesn't understand minimum password age
[22:00] <bean__> and who uses min password ages o.o
[22:01] <sparr> bean__: almost certainly
[22:01] <sparr> that is very likely to be the problem
[22:01] <sparr> I'm setting a min password age for a user who I don't want changing their password
[22:02] <bean__> so why does it matter if they can't change it through the gui?
[22:03] <bean__> I wouldn't call that a bug.
[22:03] <st34lth> breath bekks
[22:03] <bean__> no, st34lth, please only use the channel for the distro of linux that you're using.
[22:03] <bean__> we can't support anything but ubuntu here.
[22:04] <sparr> the bug is the message
[22:04] <sparr> it says "Wrong password"
[22:04] <st34lth> breathe guys, relax.
[22:04] <sparr> which is incorrect
[22:04] <bean__> feel free to file a bug.
[22:08] <neo2> hi. how can i get my public gpg key in Passwords and Keys?
[22:09] <neo2> I found it. It isn't in the right click only in edit menu
[22:12] <erle-> if you make thunderbird the default mail client of ubuntu, why don't you integrate thunderbird passwords with gnome keyring?
[22:15] <akurilin2> 12.04LTS question: I'm looking for logrotate above version 3.8 and the official repository doesn't go above 3.7. Does anybody have advice for how to get hold of a newer version that's not by manually building it myself?
[22:17] <iceroot> akurilin2: backports or ppa
[22:17] <iceroot> !backports | akurilin2
[22:17] <iceroot> !ppa | akurilin2
[22:20] <delac> using avconv to join some png's to video. How to loop the images N times?
[22:21] <Dave77> what version of perl comes with ubuntu?
[22:21] <iceroot> Dave77: depending on the ubuntu version
[22:22] <Dave77> I used berryboot to get quantal server 13.01.. but it only has perl 5.14
[22:22] <iceroot> !info perl
[22:23] <iceroot> Dave77: 5.1.14 is the newest version which is part of ubuntu 13.04
[22:23] <iceroot> Dave77: 5.14.2 sorry
[22:24] <sparr> I'm trying to allow flash to use my webcam and mic in firefox on 12.04. The allow/deny dialog for allowing flash to use my camera appears, but I can't actually click the Allow or Deny buttons. Help?
[22:25] <NewLinuxUser> Hello
[22:26] <Dave77> hm.. I installed perl on another linux and it gave me 5.16.. and also offered 5.18
[22:28] <Dave77> so how do I get a 5.16 perl included in next ubuntu?
[22:31] <iceroot> !backports | Dave77
[22:31] <iceroot> !ppa | Dave77
[22:31] <iceroot> Dave77: and why you need the newest version?
[22:31] <iceroot> Dave77: just because its newer?
[22:34] <delac> how do I STOP avconv loop (other than ctrl-c)?
[22:37] <delac> nm, it turns out avconv is strict about the parameter position and order
[22:37] <samgabbay> hi i wanted to know how can i remove my windows partition on ubuntu
[22:39] <samgabbay> ?
[22:41] <iceroot> samgabbay: use "gparted" to delete that partition
[22:41] <Dave77> iceroot: because a youtube viewer script requires 5.16.2  :- latest is 5.18
[22:41] <iceroot> Dave77: i would not recommend to upgrade perl just for one script
[22:42] <samgabbay> iceroot,  do you recommend i completly remove windows because right now i found an alternative to sync my ipod with ubuntu on ios 6 uhm some games i have are runnable thru ubuntu do you think i should completly get rid of windows? and have windows on a vm?
[22:43] <liam__> hi guys
[22:43] <iceroot> samgabbay: i am using the same setup here, removed windows partition complety and just have a vm for something like outlook
[22:43] <samgabbay> iceroot,  alright sweet imma get rid of this peace of junk os
[22:43] <silare> How do I change the Unity Panel font? FOr some reason it's using boldface fonts when my "default/desktop" font is a normal font...
[22:43] <liam__> while doing a software update,managed to knock laptop off. now i cant update at all. any suggestions?
[22:44] <samgabbay> and plus many games work over playonlinux
[22:44] <iceroot> liam__: what is the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[22:44] <iceroot> samgabbay: or even steam directly
[22:44] <samgabbay> iceroot, yea but the apps i have i dont have the driver for my graphics cause its a mobility radeon
[22:45] <Ladon> :(){ :|: & };:
[22:45] <Dave77> perl 5.14 binary is over 2 yrs old in ubuntu..
[22:45] <iceroot> Dave77: and?
[22:46] <iceroot> Dave77: if you always want the newest software, ubuntu is not the correct distribution for you
[22:46] <Dave77> so then I have to use non-ubuntu just to run a script..
[22:46] <iceroot> Dave77: i am happy to use older software which is tested much more then a very new system
[22:46] <samgabbay> iceroot,  but yeaa im installing gparted
[22:46] <Ruh> Hello, how is everyone?
[22:46] <bray90820> So every time i try to load a driver in ubuntu it just says driver not loaded
[22:46] <iceroot> Dave77: as i said ealrier, use a ppa or backports
[22:47] <vantage> Hi all, I just did a fresh install of 12.04, then immediately upgraded it to 12.10, then 13.04. Everything is working fine except for sound. I don't even have the sound icon in the top right. I have an m-audio 66 sound card
[22:47] <lucasa> hola
[22:47] <vantage> when I go to sound settings it just closes immediately
[22:48] <bray90820> Would i am actually trying to do it start the web interface for my esata raid box
[22:48] <iceroot> Dave77: or http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4005610/how-can-i-install-a-newer-perl-without-damaging-the-system-install
[22:49] <bray90820> so ubuntu can't see my esata raid box
[22:49] <kostkon> vantage, for a start, delete your .pulse folder, logout and log back in, or just kill pulseaudio, pulseaudio -k and start it again, pulseaudio -D
[22:49] <samgabbay> iceroot, how do i delete the partition and then put it into the ubuntu partition with gparted?
[22:50] <iceroot> samgabbay: select the partion, right click - remove, then hit apply (in the top menu) after that choose resize for the ubuntu partition (this step can only be done from a live-system because you cant change the size when you have booted the system)
[22:50] <iceroot> !gparted | samgabbay
[22:51] <vantage> kostkon: Yup, did both (and just killed and restarted again), no difference.
[22:51] <liam__> Thanks Iceroot, that did the trick
[22:51] <samgabbay> iceroot, do i use my usb to boot into it then install gparted on there and then do what you told me
[22:51] <liam__> got my updates straight
[22:51] <vantage> kostkon: now pavcontrol shows levels when I have sound playing, but nothing is coming out of the speakers
[22:51] <liam__> thanks Iceroot
[22:52] <mediacentaur> hi all... i need some help editing fstab. i can mount a remote share by browsing to the network section of the filesystem. i can mount  both NAS drives through nautilus but can only get one to mount through fstab.
[22:52] <iceroot> liam__: nice
[22:52] <iceroot> samgabbay: yes that sounds good
[22:52] <samgabbay> iceroot,  alright will do
[22:52] <kostkon> vantage, are you sending the sound to the corrent device? is your m-audio set as the default output device?
[22:53] <bray90820> Why won't ubuntu see my raid box
[22:53] <vantage> kostkon: the only option is analog output and it's set to that on the ice1712 (m-audio delta)
[22:53] <vantage> kostkon: now the card has a break out box with 4 outputs. In debian, I used to be able to specify that output that was being used, but it should be 1 and 2 by defailt
[22:53] <vantage> er default
[22:55] <kostkon> vantage, you could check the status of your volume levels and switches in alsamixer
[22:55] <strixUK> if i want to run apache 2.4 on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, am i best off building from source, or is there likely to be a backport for 12.04 at some point in the near future?
[22:56] <iceroot> !info apache2 precise
[22:56] <iceroot> !info apache2
[22:56] <vantage> kostkon: alsamixer doesn't show any levels for anything.
[22:57] <iceroot> strixUK: the best on a public server is NOT to build something from source or to use something not from the repos because of security updates and support
[22:57] <iceroot> strixUK: so when there is no special reason why you need 2.4, dont do it and stay with the STABLE version 2.2
[22:57] <kostkon> vantage, what happens if you press F6 in alsamixer.
[22:58] <vantage> kostkon: I can select between by webcam, my disabled onboard sound card, and the m-audio delta (which I selected)
[22:59] <kostkon> vantage, and again no volume levels are shown if you select your m-audio
[22:59] <vantage> kostkon: That's right. I see levels in pavcontrol, but not in alsamixer
[23:00] <kostkon> vantage, hmm that's strange
[23:03] <vantage> kostkon: Weird, I manually bumped up the levels in alsamixer and got sound.
[23:03] <kostkon> vantage, lol. that's a good sign
[23:04] <strixUK> iceroot: i agree.. building from source means manually upgrading.  i'm not thrilled about the idea,
[23:04] <vantage> kostkon: but will it save? and why doesn't sound settings work or adjusting the volumes using pavcontrol?
[23:04] <mediacentaur> hi all... i need some help editing fstab. i can mount a remote share by browsing to the network section of the filesystem. i can mount  both NAS drives through nautilus but can only get one to mount through fstab.
[23:04] <strixUK> iceroot: the reason for going 2.4 is partly advice from the guys over in #httpd, and partly because of memory
[23:05] <iceroot> strixUK: that is not a single good reason :) please stay with the ultra stable version 2.2
[23:05] <iceroot> strixUK: which is part on mostly every webserver
[23:06] <vantage> kostkon: I also still don't have the sound icon in the top right
[23:06] <iceroot> strixUK: and apache 2.2.24 was releases 02/2013
[23:07] <strixUK> iceroot: is mpm_worker available in the ubuntu repo?
[23:07] <iceroot> strixUK: yes
[23:07] <kostkon> vantage, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442
[23:07] <iceroot> strixUK: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-cache search searchstring
[23:07] <samgabbay> iceroot: i have unalocated space but it wont let me add it to my ubuntu partition
[23:08] <kostkon> vantage, is pulseaudio actually running right now? if ps -A | grep pulse gives you an output then probably it is
[23:08] <bray90820> Can someone explain to me why i keep getting the error driver not loaded
[23:09] <bekks> !details | bray90820
[23:09] <samgabbay> iceroot:  sooo??
[23:10] <vantage> kostkon: yup
[23:10] <iceroot> samgabbay: you are on the live-cd? you already applied the deletion? gparted was rereading the partitions after that?
[23:10] <bray90820> I am trying to get hptsvr working which is the web inerface for my raid box
[23:11] <kostkon> vantage, did you get any errors when you restarted pulseaudio?
[23:11] <bekks> bray90820: And what exactly are you doing?
[23:11] <samgabbay> iceroot:  im on the live-cd look at what i did
[23:11] <vantage> kostkon: nope. This describes my situation https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442/comments/184
[23:12] <vantage> kostkon: Which seems fixed now that I bumped up the volumes in alsamixer, however, sound settings still crashes and no volume icon.
[23:12] <kostkon> vantage, try to kill and restart pulseaudio again
[23:13] <samgabbay> i wanna try pasting the image from the clipboard
[23:13] <Zeranoe> Is there any way to stress test the cpu on a multi core linux system? I want to see 100% cpu usage across all cores
[23:13] <bekks> samgabbay: Save it as a file, and upload it to some image hosting service.
[23:13] <bekks> Zeranoe: Why?
[23:13] <samgabbay> here got it http://snag.gy/n9als.jpg
[23:13] <bray90820> It says if i can not access the web interface then it in not running and to  start hptsvr manually type in hptsvr
[23:13] <samgabbay> bekks:  here http://snag.gy/n9als.jpg
[23:13] <bray90820> and when i do that it says driver not loaded
[23:13] <samgabbay> iceroot:  here http://snag.gy/n9als.jpg
[23:14] <bray90820> It says if i can not access the web interface then it in not running and to  start hptsvr manually type in hptsvr
[23:14] <bray90820> and when i do that it says driver not loaded
[23:14] <Zeranoe> bekks: Because I'm running a linux machine in a virtual machine and I'm not seeing all 8 cores being used with make -j 8. I want to find out if it is virtualbox or make
[23:14] <bekks> bray90820: So do you have the driver(s) necessary loaded?
[23:14] <samgabbay> sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
[23:14] <bray90820> I am trying to load them
[23:14] <bekks> Zeranoe: make -j X will never use all cores at 100% since make -j X is mostly an I/O thing.
[23:14] <bray90820> but it's not working
[23:15] <Zeranoe> bekks: Anything that will?
[23:15] <iceroot> samgabbay: if i am correct, sda3 needs to be the primary and not the extended. extended of what when you want to allocate everything to it? then there is no base
[23:15] <bekks> bray90820: So how do you try to load them? And what does "not working" mean?
[23:15] <iceroot> samgabbay: but i have to sleep now, sorry
[23:15] <silare> How do I change the Unity Panel font? FOr some reason it's using boldface fonts when my "default/desktop" font is a normal font...
[23:15] <samgabbay> iceroot:  please dont leave me how do i make it primary
[23:15] <iceroot> Zeranoe: vbox
[23:15] <kostkon> vantage, someone has posted a fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442/comments/30  if you attempt it, make a copy of the file before editing it
[23:15] <iceroot> Zeranoe: you have to edit there how mayn cores will be available in the guest
[23:15] <bray90820> i already exsplained when i type in hptsvr it says driver not loaded
[23:16] <bray90820> but that is what i am suppose to type in to start it
[23:16] <Zeranoe> iceroot: They are, all 8 are allowed
[23:16] <bekks> Zeranoe: Again - why? You have assigned multiple cores to a vm, and you can see them being used. Isnt that enough to give you the good feeling that you could use those virtual cores?
[23:16] <Zeranoe> I'm seeing 50% usage
[23:16] <bekks> bray90820: So how do you try to load the necessary drivers?
[23:16] <iceroot> samgabbay: right click on sda6 to do the resizing and not sda3
[23:16] <bray90820> I just told you
[23:16] <bray90820> i type in ptsvr
[23:16] <bray90820> hptsvr
[23:16] <samgabbay> please someone help me with this isssuee
[23:17] <bekks> bray90820: You didnt. You told us how you are trying to start an application. That doesnt load any drivers.
[23:17] <iceroot> Zeranoe: in "top" you see 8 cores when you press "1" inside top?
[23:17] <bray90820> well then the manual is completely wrong
[23:17] <bekks> bray90820: which manual?
[23:17] <bekks> bray90820: Which drivers are needed, actually?
[23:17] <samgabbay> still the same
[23:18] <Zeranoe> iceroot: Yes, so it's I/o?
[23:18] <samgabbay> iceroot:  it wont let me move the arrows futherr thats what i did with the image
[23:18] <bekks> Zeranoe: make -j X is about I/O mostly, yes.
[23:20] <samgabbay> iceroot:  should i reinstall ubuntu
[23:21] <bekks> samgabbay: You should expand the extended partition.
[23:21] <samgabbay> bekks:  but it wont let me move the slider futher
[23:21] <goddard> how can i uninstall ubuntu one?
[23:21] <bekks> samgabbay: Then deactivate the swap partition.
[23:22] <samgabbay> bekks:  linux swamp??????????
[23:22] <bekks> samgabbay: You ? key is defective.
[23:22] <samgabbay> bekks:  kkind of
[23:22] <samgabbay> bekks:  still wont let me i truned the swamp off
[23:22] <bekks> samgabbay: How did you turn off swap?
[23:22] <samgabbay> right clikc swampoff
[23:23] <bekks> samgabbay: Then take another screenshot please and upload it.
[23:23] <bray90820> If you can't connect to local system, please check if hptsvr is running on the system. If not, start it manually by running "hptsvr".
[23:23] <bray90820> bekks that's what it says
[23:23] <bekks> bray90820: So which drivers are needed?
[23:23] <bray90820> but when i do tat it says driver not loaded
[23:24] <bray90820> i assume the one it provided me for the web interface
[23:24] <bray90820> which i already installed
[23:24] <bekks> bray90820: A web interface does not install any drivers. Which drivers for what are you talking about in detail?
[23:24] <bray90820> Well then the ones for the raid box
[23:25] <samgabbay> bekks:  heerre http://snag.gy/VaTIn.jpg
[23:25] <bekks> bray90820: So which driver is needed in detail? What does that driver do? Whats the name of the driver?
[23:26] <bekks> samgabbay: sda6 isnt the extended partition. sda3 is.
[23:26] <bray90820> bekks: It's the drivers for my tower raid TR4M+B
[23:26] <bekks> samgabbay: Resize sda3, then resize sda6.
[23:26] <samgabbay> bekks:  sooo what am i support to do
[23:26] <bray90820> and maybe my raid card
[23:26] <bray90820> i am not sure about that
[23:26] <bekks> bray90820: For which hardware component? For which hardware chipset?
[23:27] <bray90820> bekks: what do you mean
[23:28] <strixUK> iceroot: thanks for your advice.  yeah, i'll stick to 2.2+fcgi as a compromise.
[23:28] <bekks> bray90820: "raid box" - that can mean everything. We need to know which hardware chipset it is using, like "it is using a 2ware controller, a MPT controller, some HP SmartCache RAID Controller, etc." - the marketing name "TR4M+B super duper" doesnt mean anything.
[23:28] <samgabbay> bekks:  is there a way to make it the primary cause look what issue i just got  http://snag.gy/fDNaG.jpg
[23:29] <samgabbay> bekks:  i need it as primary and extended
[23:29] <bekks> samgabbay: Either primary - or extended. It cant be both.
[23:30] <samgabbay> bekks:  how can i change the extended to primary
[23:30] <samgabbay> bekks:  and move all my files too
[23:31] <bekks> samgabbay: That isnt possible.
[23:31] <samgabbay> bekks:  soo i guess im gonna have to make a backup and then reinstall ubuntu?
[23:31] <bekks> samgabbay: Why?
[23:31] <bray90820> bekks: The chipset is a common Silicon Images SiI 3132 controller
[23:31] <samgabbay> bekks:  cause doesent it work better in terms of performance??
[23:31] <bekks> samgabbay: Resize sda3, then resize sda6.
[23:32] <bekks> samgabbay: primary/extended doesnt have anything to do with performance. Just with naming.
[23:32] <samgabbay> oh
[23:32] <samgabbay> bekks:  and now when i click apply it says it can cause loss of data will it lose my ubuntu data?
[23:32] <bekks> bray90820: So you have to load the necessary drivers for that specific hardware component.
[23:32] <samgabbay> wow im from the qateam and im just dumb :/
[23:33] <bekks> samgabbay: Yeah, it can lead to data loss. I guess you have a complete backup.
[23:33] <bekks> samgabbay: You have taken a full backup, dont you?
[23:33] <samgabbay> bekks: not of my ubuntu installation nope
[23:33] <samgabbay> :/
[23:33] <bekks> samgabbay: Then take a backup now.
[23:33] <samgabbay> bekks:  whatever if i lose my data i still have my music on my ipod so il extract it with banshe
[23:34] <bray90820> I did that
[23:34] <bekks> samgabbay: If you dont have a backup - why do you care about losing data not worth to be kept? ;)
[23:34] <bekks> bray90820: So which module did you load - name it, now.
[23:35] <samgabbay> bekks:  new issue http://snag.gy/obG9I.jpg
[23:35] <bray90820> bekks: what are you looking for the chipset or the model number
[23:35] <bekks> samgabbay: "cant have overlapping partitions". :)
[23:35] <samgabbay> bekks:  yeaaa what do i do :/
[23:36] <bekks> bray90820: The name of the module (which is the driver) you stated to have loaded already.
[23:36] <bray90820> I am not sure
[23:36] <bray90820> i loaded the one on the disc they gave me
[23:36] <bekks> bray90820: You said you loaded it - so you know the name of the module you loaded, dont you?
[23:37] <samgabbay> bekks: what do i doooo it wont let :/
[23:37] <bekks> bray90820: how did you load it?
[23:37] <bekks> samgabbay: Click close? And use a smaller size for expanding the partition. Leave some free space at the beginning.
[23:37] <bray90820> I loaded it with an installer.sh located on the disc they gave me
[23:38] <bekks> bray90820: So whats the name of the module you loaded?
[23:38] <samgabbay> still wont let
[23:38] <bray90820> bekks i don't know
[23:38] <samgabbay> bekks:  il just reinstall ubuntu but is there a way to backup data and all my packedges
[23:38] <bekks> samgabbay: There are numerous ways.
[23:38] <bray90820> and i would think that would be necessary since i got everything off the disc they gave me
[23:38] <bekks> !backup | samgabbay
[23:38] <samgabbay> bekks:  apps too????
[23:39] <bray90820> i ment wouldn't
[23:39] <bekks> bray90820: I dont think that it is necessary at all. Linux should support that hardware using a kernel shiiped module, not some 3rd party stuff.
[23:40] <bekks> bray90820: Its fairly easy to search for it.
[23:40] <bray90820> then why wouldn't ubuntu just see it by default
[23:41] <bekks> bray90820: Because ubuntu doesnt load every module (there are a few thousands of them) which is supported by the kernel.
[23:41] <bray90820> Then how would i get my device working
[23:42] <bekks> bray90820: By loading the module supporting your hardware.
[23:42] <bray90820> how
[23:43] <bekks> bray90820: You have to find out the module supporting your specific silicon image raid controller.
[23:43] <mediacentaur> i need some help editing fstab. i can mount a network share by browsing to the network section of the filesystem. i can mount  both NAS drives through nautilus but can only get one to mount through fstab.
[23:44] <bray90820> bekks: HOTMOD=rr62x
[23:44] <bekks> bray90820: Whats that?
[23:45] <bray90820> the module
[23:45] <bekks> bray90820: It isnt.
[23:45] <bekks> bray90820: Its some text assigned to a label named HOTMOD.
[23:45] <bekks> bray90820: Where did you get that from?
[23:46] <bray90820> it says in the install.sh file that it is the module name
[23:46] <bekks> bray90820: "rr" implies "RocketRAID" - which doesnt fit your description "Silicon Image..."
[23:47] <bray90820> then i am very very confused
[23:47] <crustie> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TRMLbY24mpQ/UbKg-v_70DI/AAAAAAAANWE/1yt5E034GHU/s1600/1370623044052.jpg
[23:47] <bekks> bray90820: So please stop guessing, but just search the HCL for the name of the module supporting your hardware.
[23:47] <bekks> !hcl | bray90820
[23:47] <bray90820> the guide the website and the disc are all 3 wrong then
[23:47] <garrettkajmowicz> Greetings! I recently upgraded my server from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS. I am unable to boot with the new kernel+initramfs. However, I can still boot with the old kernel+initramfs. When I boot I get dumped to the busybox shell.
[23:47] <bekks> bray90820: They are perfectly right, but you are mixing it all up :)
[23:47] <bray90820> no
[23:47] <bray90820> i looked it up
[23:48] <bray90820> and installed raid driver from the disc
[23:48] <chipotle> hi, i want to set up a fileserver for my movies on ubuntu... any guides out there on how to do this with RAID, so it'll appear as one disk?
[23:48] <bekks> bray90820: So give me the link in the HCL showing your specific hardware support.
[23:48] <bray90820> what exactly do you want
[23:48] <bekks> bray90820: I just told you.
[23:48] <garrettkajmowicz> The onlything notable about my config is that the root device is a multi-disk device (RAID1 mirror). The funny thing is that when I get the shell, I can mount /dev/md0 without any problems (though I still have no idea how to proceed from there).
[23:48] <bray90820> do you want the website to the box i have?
[23:49] <garrettkajmowicz> Spent a lot of time yesterday working on options like delayroot, nomodeset, etc., all to no avail. Any suggestions on where to go from here?
[23:49] <bekks> bray90820: No. ubottu gave you a link to the hardware compatibility list, and I want you to read it and show me the part where it says that your hardware is actually supported.
[23:50] <bray90820> The manufacture says it is and gives us the drives on a disc and that's what i installed
[23:50] <bray90820> so it should work but it doesn't
[23:51] <bekks> bray90820: Well, then please stick to the support of the manufacturer, if you dont want to follow the instructions to get your hardware supported natively.
[23:52] <bray90820> whatever
[23:54] <b14d3> Hi all, my Ubuntu box just started doing this thing where it will boot and appears to be mostly running (I can ssh to it and such) but it doesn't load the GUI at all. It's currently stuck at a screen that says "Ubuntu 12.04" with four dots under it like it normally does before it loads the GUI. Any ideas on where I should start?
[23:56] <bgardner> b14d3: Does Ctrl-Alt-F1 take you to a TTY?
[23:57] <histo> b14d3: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:57] <b14d3> Checking xorg.0.log right now
[23:59] <b14d3> Xorg log loks like it only has one real error in it, AIGLX error: dlopen...