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LamontX12-04First timer here coming from Windows xp.  Currently installing Xubuntu 12.04 on non-pae cpu. Any tips?00:16
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maxm11Did anyone notice on the install screen, the page titled The Xubuntu Desktop, Number 2 the last sentence says "to save screen estate", is my OCD or is it supposed to be real esate01:46
seronisyes and no02:09
seronisthe 'real' is meant to imply tangible, like property or land.  so more accurate to leave it out02:09
dooglushi07:47
dooglusI run xubuntu, and use gnome-sound-applet for a volume control07:47
doogluswhen I right-click it and pick 'properties' I used to get sound settings, but now I get the gnome control panel with most of the icons missing07:48
dooglusI think it's because XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP is set to XFCE, and most of the settings have something like 'only show in GNOME' in their .desktop files07:48
well_laid_lawndoes xfce's sound applet not work for you?07:49
dooglusso how can I get the right-click on the panel applet to work?07:49
dooglusnot well, i don't think.  didn't try it for a few years though07:49
dooglusi'll ry it now07:50
dooglusis it called 'audio mixer' in the 'add new items' dialog?07:50
dooglusit doesn't have per-application volume controls like the gnome one does07:52
dooglusrunning:07:52
dooglusXDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center07:52
dooglusfrom the command line gets me what I want - but I can't figure out how to have that environment variable in my session07:53
dooglusI tried setting it in .xprofile, but something overwrites it after07:53
well_laid_lawnxfce will afaik07:53
doogluswhat's annoying is I fixed this issue on my old computer, but forgot how07:58
well_laid_lawnmight be time to start a blog and record these things08:00
well_laid_lawn;)08:00
well_laid_lawndooglus:  does this help - http://askubuntu.com/questions/146245/xfce-volume-adjusting-sound-applet-for-12-0408:03
photonhi. which gcc version is in xubuntu 12.04? I haven't installed it yet, so if someone could please check or tell me how to find out?08:16
well_laid_lawn!info gcc 12.0408:24
ubottu'12.04' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable08:24
Aiena1Hi I am having a prbolem my phone is connecting to xubuntu like it were a bluetooth headset instead of a pc08:25
Aiena1I cant send files from the pc08:25
well_laid_lawn!info gcc precise08:25
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.112ubuntu5)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 (precise), package size 4 kB, installed size 41 kB08:25
well_laid_lawnphoton:  ^^08:26
photonthank you well_laid_lawn08:26
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photon!info gcc raring08:27
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.120ubuntu10)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.3-1ubuntu10 (raring), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB08:27
photonno 4.8 versions yet :(08:27
Aienai think you can get it via a ppa08:27
Aienanot sure08:27
photonwill try that, thanks08:27
Aienaif anything goes wrong08:29
Aienathere is always ppa-purge08:29
Aienathe saviour of the day :P08:29
Aienaits better to do that than just remove a ppa which is quiet useless08:30
Aienaphoton: do you really need 4.8 though08:31
photonI need the latest support for the C++11 standard, and 4.8 includes support for thread local variables, I think no earlier gcc versions have that.08:32
Aienaphoton but maybe 4.8 is available as an update in stock raring too08:32
AienaI havent booted into raring yet. Still using the stable old 12.0408:33
Aienaphoton are you using raring - see if its available as an update08:33
photonnot using raring, but will install it later. :) thank you.08:34
Aienaphoton: it is available for raring as an update08:34
Aienahttp://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.changes.raring/820508:34
Aienayou should update to that distro if you want the latest maybe on a seperate partition08:34
photonyeah or in a VM.08:35
Aienaeither way08:35
Aienayoull be able to build with the latest gcc then08:35
AienaI think08:35
Aienanever tried building in a vm08:35
Aienaanyways give it a shot08:38
Aienatell me what happens. I am interested.08:38
Aienaphoton:08:38
photonAiena: will do, thanks :)08:39
Aiena:)08:39
Aienaotherwise use fedora but thats a whole other story - dont want to go there08:40
Aienaphoton do you know how to make an application always run as root and ask for a password08:57
Aienasimilar to run as administrator in windows08:57
photonAiena: you mean `sudo`?08:58
Aienayes but automatically08:58
Aienalike when you open synaptics08:59
Aienait automatically request super user prviledges08:59
Aienai know you xna run sudo program from terminal08:59
Aienabut i was asking if an apllication can be made to automatically request su priviledges on startup form the menu foe example09:00
Aiena*can09:00
Aiena*sudo "program"09:00
Aiena*application09:00
photonI don't know how to do that. maybe you could write a script?09:00
koegsAiena: use a script or change the entry in the menu to use "gksudo <program>"09:01
Aienakoegs how do you do that ?09:02
AienaI was looking for that only09:02
AienaHow do you edit the menu09:02
Aienacan you give me a good resource koegs on that09:03
koegsAiena: right click on the button, properties, edit menu?09:04
koegs"menu button"09:04
Aienaright clicking executes the app09:04
Aienaah found it09:05
koegsright click on the menu-button, not the "app-button"09:05
Aienathanks09:05
* Aiena nods09:05
koegsout of curiosity, which programm do you want to use as root?09:05
Aienacalibre09:06
Aienait seems to not convert ebooks otherwise09:06
Aienathe epub converter fails09:07
Aienait apparently needs to write a .config file09:07
Aienafor conversion09:07
Aienaroot is not something i generally want to fool with anyways09:07
Aienamost apps dont need root priviledges callibre is an oddball :P09:10
well_laid_lawnI'd think it would be easier to run it with gksu from a terminal09:11
Aienakoegs: is sudo for a graphical application different from gksudo for a graphival application in  terminal ?09:13
Aiena*graphical09:13
well_laid_lawn!gksu09:13
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)09:13
Aienabye thanks all09:41
xubuntu469videos are washed out like in 256 colors... need some help kinda new to this.10:55
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xubuntu709Hy everybody13:53
bgardnerxubuntu709, Hello13:54
xubuntu709I can not update xubuntu 12.04, also synaptic and ubuntu software center is bloggd13:55
bgardnerxubuntu709, What happens when you try, and how are you trying?13:56
xubuntu709system shows me a script of a Bug13:58
bgardnerxubuntu709, Are you trying to update *to* 12.04, or just trying to get current with your updates for 12.04?13:59
xubuntu709i try with terminal: /var/cache/apt/ not possible14:02
bgardnerxubuntu709: try 'sudo apt-get upgrade' from a terminal14:02
xubuntu709sorry my english is law (german)14:02
xubuntu709O=k14:03
xubuntu709Termnal answerd:/var/lib/sudo/fritz/2 kann nicht geöffnet werden: Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar W: Es wird keine Sperre für schreibgeschützte Sperrdatei /var/lib/dpkg/lock verwendet E: Schreiben nach /var/cache/apt/ nicht möglich E: Die Paketliste oder die Statusdatei konnte nicht eingelesen oder geöffnet werden.14:04
xubuntu709sorry it is in german14:05
bgardnerxubuntu709: It's okay, stand by while I check it14:05
xubuntu709ok14:05
bgardnerxubuntu709: Okay, I read the translation for that to read "filesystem is read only", is that correct?14:06
xubuntu709think so, but not sure, linux is a  mirakle, if is ot running14:07
xubuntu709I`m only a user14:08
bgardnerxubuntu709: That's okay, could you do this and tell me what it says, please: 'mount -l -t ext4'14:10
xubuntu709mount -I -t  ext4: fritz@fritz-1003HAG:~$ mount -I -t ext4 mount: Ungültige Option -- I Aufruf: mount -V                 : Version ausgeben         mount -h                 : Diese Hilfe ausgeben         mount                    : eingehängte Dateisysteme auflisten         mount -l                 : dito, inklusive Volume-Label So weit mit dem informativen Part. Als nächstes das Einhängen. Der Befehl lautet „mount [-t fsty14:15
xubuntu709yes is true14:16
bgardnerxubuntu709: Is this a LiveCD image that you are running?14:17
bgardnerxubuntu709: By which I mean, did you boot from a disc?14:17
xubuntu709I try to load from the currently running xubuntu on my Asus EssPC Hag 103014:19
xubuntu709It is not a Lifebooting tool: DVD7CD or USB stick14:20
bgardnerxubuntu709: Okay, then it sounds like your root partition is mounted read-only.  Have you tried rebooting yet?14:20
xubuntu709Please how I did it ? but only loose all my data?14:21
xubuntu709you rebooting with shut down the Pc and restart?14:22
bgardnerxubuntu709: Not yet.14:23
xubuntu709ok14:23
bgardnerxubuntu709: First, type 'mount' and tell me the result, please.14:24
xubuntu709It is possible to got respositoris also extern and loadig on a usb.stick and than load on my Netbook14:26
xubuntu709ok monut Moment14:27
xubuntu709hear the result: fritz@fritz-1003HAG:~$ mount /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid14:28
bgardnerxubuntu709: Okay, stand by.14:29
xubuntu709ok I don`t run away14:30
bgardnerxubuntu709: Try this command: 'sudo -i' - it should leave you at a root@fritz:~# prompt.14:35
xubuntu709ok14:35
bgardnerxubuntu709: If it does not, please tell me any error you receive.14:35
koegsxubuntu709: you could also join #ubuntu-de :)14:38
xubuntu709ritz@fritz-1003HAG:~$ sudo -it should leave you at a root@fritz:-# promt usage: sudo [-D level] -h | -K | -k | -V usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-D level] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-u user             name|#uid] usage: sudo -l[l] [-AknS] [-D level] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt] [-U user             name] [-u user name|#uid] [-g groupname|#gid] [command] usage: sudo [-AbEHknPS] [-C fd] [-D level] [-g groupname|#gid] [-p prompt]14:38
bgardnerxubuntu709: I'll keep working with you if you like, but koegs makes an excellent point - you might find this easier with someone who speaks German.14:39
claudiubonjour14:39
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Guest76549nickname claudiux14:39
Guest76549bonjour14:39
Guest76549y a t'il des fr ici? svp14:40
bgardnerxubuntu709: And that last command should have just been: sudo -i14:40
xubuntu709ok it is bee true, but you also a good  job with my problem14:40
Guest76549someone french?14:40
Guest76549pliz?14:41
cfhowlett!fr|Guest76549,14:41
ubottuGuest76549,: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.14:41
xubuntu709sorry no french language only german/english14:42
Guest76549okay14:42
Guest76549i'll try to expose my problem :)14:42
Guest76549i have an EEPC14:42
Guest76549asus14:42
Guest76549i just installed xubuntu and i think that i need video driver14:42
Guest76549because i tried to watch an youtube video and ....14:43
cfhowlettGuest76549, to watch videos?14:43
Guest76549yes or playing facebook games14:43
cfhowlettGuest76549, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras14:43
Guest76549is little slowly14:43
Guest76549and then restart ?14:44
koegsxubuntu709: ich würde dir echt empfehlen evtl. nach #ubuntu-de zu kommen, falls es weiterhin mit der Sprache hapert14:44
Guest76549(thanks)14:44
xubuntu709war mit dem Bug auf Ubuntuusers,de nur da fühlte ich mich richtig veräppelt, als fritz866614:45
Guest76549ill be back14:46
xubuntu709mit der sprache haperts hier nur bedngt wenn es um linux-englsh geht, verstehe fast zu 90 %14:46
xubuntu709ok which is the Irc chanel for xubuntu users?14:48
cfhowlettxubuntu709, right here14:48
xubuntu709in german language ?14:49
xubuntu332whats crackin?14:49
xubuntu709somebody give the tipp better to change the channel14:50
cfhowlett!de|xubuntu709,14:50
ubottuxubuntu709,: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!14:50
xubuntu709or I stay her and listen wat is right for my bug-problem14:51
cfhowlett!bug|xubuntu709,14:51
ubottuxubuntu709,: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:51
cfhowlettxubuntu709, you might also check/post the issue the forums.  Do NOT expect an immediate response because you have an immediate issue.14:52
xubuntu709sorry da ich hier das erste mal bin wo geb ich: das ein?14:52
xubuntu709bin ein bischen blöd glaub ich? smile14:53
bgardnerxubuntu709: Why don't you try #ubuntu-de first, and come back here if you don't find your solution there?14:53
xubuntu709good question14:55
bgardnerxubuntu709: Warum nicht versuchen #ubuntu-de, dann auf diesen Kanal zurück, wenn Sie nicht finden, eine Lösung? Sie können mit Schalter /join #ubuntu-de14:59
wOOnderhi there15:06
wOOndercould someone help me setting a "network" between xubuntu and win xp, I have found how to share my printer with gadmin-samba but not how to share a folder between the 2 OS15:08
wOOnderin reality I found how to share with "shares-admin" but duno how to set rights on shared folder15:08
wOOnderI use xubuntu 13.04 in french15:13
doogluswell_laid_lawn: I usually write in IRC when I solve a problem, so I can grep the logs later, but didn't for that one15:21
doogluswell_laid_lawn: I found my old solution, and posted it as an answer to the question you dug up: http://askubuntu.com/a/306494/4564215:28
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m4jidHi18:31
m4jidhi i just installed xubuntu 12.0418:55
m4jidi have GeForce GT 430 with two monitor one 22 and another 19 inch18:55
m4jidi dont have high resolution on my 22" monitr18:55
TheSheepm4jid: are you using the proprietary drivers or the build-in?18:57
m4jidi installed recommended driver18:57
m4jidfrom additional driver menu18:57
TheSheepso the proprietary drivers18:58
m4jidyes18:58
TheSheepuse the nvidia-settings program then, I guess18:58
TheSheepthe one that comes with the drivers18:58
m4jidTheSheep, same i cannot change resolution18:59
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m4jidi meant i can but not 1680x105018:59
TheSheepI have no idea how to troubleshoot the nvidia's closed-source product, you could try searching the forums and/or google if someone had a similar problem and perhaps contact nvidia's support19:01
TheSheepyou can also ask at #ubuntu, as this part is pretty much the same19:01
TheSheepoh, and check this link19:01
TheSheep!nvidia | m4jid19:01
ubottum4jid: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto19:01
TheSheepsorry that I can't help more19:02
m4jidi download the driver from nvidia website how cna i install it19:02
m4jideverytime im trying to instll it tell me to exit x mode19:02
TheSheepit's the same driver, so it won't help19:03
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MortvertAre there any programs/widgets that can display my cpu/memory/swap load along with amount of HD space filled and network usage?19:36
Unit193Like atop?  There's also a panel one for CPU/Swap/RAM.19:38
Sysiyou can add panel applets that show those or use conky19:38
Sysiyou can install panel plugin for network and disk usage too19:39
Mortvertwell, conky is PITA to configure, i tried few configs, none work properly19:39
MortvertAnd i have very limited amount of panel space19:39
Sysiadd extra panel, you can make it autohiding19:40
Sysignome-system-monitor displays all of that info I think19:40
Mortvertgrrr19:47
Mortvertsensors-detect says 'yes' on some sensors scanning yet it tells me that it doesn't find any sensors19:48
clear`hey guys i need some help with dual booting19:50
clear`i installed win7, then installed xubuntu, boot-repair doesnt allow me to check, repair windows19:51
white_WolfHi! can you help me please? I cant instal amd-ati driver20:02
Mortverthrm, Sysi20:02
Mortverthow the hell i can get rid of conky's background?20:02
Mortverti made it use own window but it seems to have wallpaper20:03
SysiI've never used conky20:03
white_Wolfwho ever installed video drivers?20:04
white_Wolfon amd radeon20:04
clear`white_Wolf: does it give you an error?20:06
clear`warning?20:06
white_Wolfclear: after install I reboot my laptop and... only terminal20:07
white_Wolfif delete xorg.conf then xubuntu will work20:08
clear`are you sure you are installing the right driver?20:09
white_Wolfi take it from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx20:09
clear`http://askubuntu.com/questions/286454/cant-install-amd-catalyst-drivers-on-13-0420:12
clear`Apparently it won't work under the new version of the Linux kernel; anyone know how to make it compatible? – Bob Making-Pie Apr 27 at 7:5320:12
drcwhite_Wolf: and you <did> check http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/amdcatalyst13-4linreleasenotes.aspx to make sure your card was supported, you have the correct dependencies, and all that?20:12
clear`In order to install Catalyst 13.4 please refer to those instructions: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx20:13
white_Wolfthanks, i`l try this20:14
clear`drc: can you help me with dual booting?20:15
drcclear`: Nope, detest dual booting, so I've never played with it, sorry :)20:16
clear`i have to :(20:17
clear`i could do virtual box, but id rather just dual boot20:17
clear`i have to have quickbooks for business20:17
drcI'd start here though,,,, http://askubuntu.com/questions/293612/dual-boot-ubuntu-13-04-and-windows-8-windows-doesnt-boot20:17
Mortverturk20:19
clear`ok imma just do a vm install20:21
clear`screw it20:21
seronisQ:   SettingsManager -> WindowManager -> Advanced -> WindowAction   seems to be getting ignored.  I have it set to maximize windows but when double clicking a titlebar the window just blinks and remains unchanged21:12
goddardcoming from Unity here.. In unity chromium has more menu options where are those menu options when using xfce?21:15
brainwashgoddard: which menu options are missing?21:16
goddardbrainwash: the History menu is gone21:19
goddardbrainwash: in Unity I can restore my previous session tabs in the History menu item21:19
xubuntu636Hey- anybody home?21:25
ochosi!hi | xubuntu63621:25
ubottuxubuntu636: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!21:25
xubuntu636Fantastic21:25
xubuntu636I do have a really silly question21:26
xubuntu636I burned xubuntu as an iso21:26
xubuntu636And I'm trying to boot from it- but even with the boot order as disc first21:26
xubuntu636My machine is still kicking to it's windows installation21:26
ochosiand i assume that the disc-burning went without (obvious) complications?21:27
Unit193How new is the computer?  There should be a single time boot menu you can try to force it, have you tried that as well?  Have you checked to see if you can boot the disk on another computer?21:28
xubuntu636Right the burning process went really smoothly21:28
xubuntu636The computer is maybe 8 years old?21:28
xubuntu636It's a pentium d gateway, so it's not exactly "new"...21:29
xubuntu636I have tried the boot menu21:30
xubuntu636It's still rolling over to the windows xp21:30
goddardnevermind i fiugred out you can use ctrl+shift+t21:32
goddardand you can do that up to 10 times21:32
xubuntu636I'll try another machine with the disc I suppose21:38
xubuntu636Thanks all!21:38
mike-linuxok, i need some serious help, as i cannot boot into Xubuntu anymore. it stops during startup and does not do anything anymore.. for some reason it cannot proceed.22:07
mike-linuxwhen pressing ctrl-alt-del it says exiting: acpid and then it reboots22:07
mike-linuxwhat to do now?22:07
mike-linuxright now i am in windows, so hardware seems ok22:08
mike-linuxbut i did not do updates what so ever. it just happened22:08
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