[00:17] <Guest14878> holas
[01:59] <elias_> olá boa noite a todos
[01:59] <elias__> eliassilva
[02:00] <elias__> eliassilva2014
[05:28] <Wdae> Hello :D
[08:17] <mokush> I've removed all ruby* packages, using muon, and ruby -v still works. any idea why?
[08:54] <apachelogger> mokush: using muon or using the muon software center?
[08:54] <mokush> apachelogger: muon
[08:55] <mokush> but it seems that removing everything solved the issue I had with compass. so now, after I removed everything ruby* related, ruby, sass and compass work fine :)
[08:56] <apachelogger> ok
[10:53] <Roberth1990> hello, will kubuntu adopt mir or wayland?
[11:03] <lordievader> Roberth1990: I believe that is still a topic of discussion.
[11:05] <Roberth1990> lordievader: okay
[11:33] <FluxBox23> Hello :)
[11:34] <noaXess> hello
[11:35] <noaXess> on a customer server i get after each command a line like: 134[2013-06-11 13:34:06] pts/0@server ~
[11:35] <noaXess> any idea how to disable it?
[11:35] <noaXess> it's root user and shell is /bin/bash
[12:00] <monkeyjuice> noaXess:  kind of looks like every command is being logged..
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <monkeyjuice> morning BluesKaj
[12:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning monkeyjuice
[12:14] <khaled> hi , the synaptic and update managet don't open any help?
[12:15] <khaled> allo
[12:19] <murthy> hello everyone
[13:16] <noaXess> monkeyjuice: got it.. there was a .bash_options which does that ;).. renamed and done
[13:16] <noaXess> and bash view is now default..
[13:18] <robotics> 3
[13:37] <n8w> hey guys
[13:37] <BluesKaj> hi n8w
[13:37] <n8w> is there any way how to clear up the notification(in the sys tray) automatically?? e.g. after certain time
[13:38] <n8w> im talkin about the notification widget...
[13:40] <BluesKaj> n8w, not that i know of ..it's somewhat buggy , the notifications ahng around for a long time after the action is finished , it's a pain alright
[13:40] <BluesKaj> hang around
[13:41] <n8w> BluesKaj, well i always have to clear it up manually:)...
[13:42] <BluesKaj> n8w, I've never tried the hidden setting for it, maybe that will work :)
[13:43] <n8w> BluesKaj, i dont even have the option to automatically hide..wtf
[13:44] <BluesKaj> yeah , there is a guy who is asking ppl for their experience with notifications , seele_ in #kubuntu-devel
[13:44] <BluesKaj> n8w, ^
[13:45] <n8w> BluesKaj, cheers
[13:49] <n8w> BluesKaj, ye man its a bug(still!!!) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=160308
[13:55] <arthurb_> hello all, I'm having issues integrating gpg with kmail (4.9.5), is anyone using such a combination?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> arthurb_,  gpg with kmail ? please explain
[13:59] <arthurb_> BluesKaj: ur, I just want to sign and encrypt emails with my gpg keys... the gpg command line works fine
[14:00] <arthurb_> I've added my key to my identity in the kmail conf, but if I try to sign an email, it goes "Could not compose message: Bad passphrase"
[14:00] <arthurb_> without actually prompting me for a passphrase
[14:01] <BluesKaj>  arthurb_, ok understood , i just don't use kmail or need to certify or supply a COC for them
[14:02] <BluesKaj> COC = chain of custody
[14:04] <BluesKaj> seen similar security feature requirements over the years , but never thought it would be needed with emails
[15:03] <Roberth1990> anyone know how I can get BFS and BFQ on ubuntu?
[15:03] <Roberth1990> *kubuntu
[15:03] <goodtime> sorry but i dont understand Roberth1990
[15:04] <goodtime> is it in the package manager?
[15:04] <Roberth1990> Brain Fuck Scheduler and Budget Fair Queuer
[15:04] <genii> Roberth1990: May want to enquire in #ubuntu-kernel
[15:05] <Roberth1990> a cpu scheduler and disk queuer
[15:05] <goodtime> lol i never even heard of that
[15:05] <goodtime> hmm
[15:05] <goodtime> intresting
[15:05] <Roberth1990> it makes the system much more responsive for desktop use
[15:05] <goodtime> ok
[15:05] <Roberth1990> a lot lower latencies
[15:05] <goodtime> hmm
[15:05] <infrid> hi
[15:05] <genii> goodtime: The kernel can use different scheduling systems for processes, it's moving towards whats called "tickless" which is even-driven model, etc
[15:06] <goodtime> ok nice
[15:06] <goodtime> i just might have to look into it
[15:07] <Roberth1990> http://pf.natalenko.name/repos.php hmmm this kernel has them
[15:08] <Riddell> Roberth1990: file a needs-packaging bug (or package it yourself)
[15:08] <Riddell> !needs-packaging
[15:08] <Riddell> oh well
[15:09]  * genii makes a note to perhaps create !needs-packaging
[15:09] <genii> !kernel
[15:10] <Soru__> Someone knows how to build a multisieat easyly?
[15:11] <genii> Soru__: There's a decent tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[15:12] <Soru__> But... It really works? Someone tried it? I tried it one day without luck... Maybe I need to try it again :/
[15:13] <Soru__> For example
[15:14] <Soru__> I don't have any xorg.conf file
[15:14] <Soru__> xDD
[15:14] <Soru__> I'm on kubuntu 13
[15:21] <genii> Soru__: No xorg.conf file is made now by default. but if you create one then it does get used.
[15:21] <Soru__> Oh
[15:21] <Soru__> Ok
[15:22] <Soru__> Well, I'll try to follow the steps
[15:22] <Soru__> I'll say somthing here
[15:22] <genii> Soru__: I am in many channels, if you need to get my attention at some point please just put my name in your message so that I will get a notice :)
[15:23] <Soru__> Great genii, thanks for your help!
[15:23]  * genii makes another pot of coffee and gets back to work
[15:42] <sven_oostenbrink> I'm on kubuntu 13.04 and I have no audio whatsoever.. system settings > multimedia shows the pulseaudio sound server, no other optoins.. how can I debug / fix this?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, , what about the preferred devices tab in phonon ?
[15:45] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: I only see PulseAudio Sound Server
[15:46] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, no device preference tab?
[15:46] <sven_oostenbrink> yes
[15:47] <sven_oostenbrink> that is the list where I see audio playback, audio recording, and video recording, right?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:47] <sven_oostenbrink> and in there, I select, for example, audio playback > music, and in the list on the right, all I see is "pulse audio sound server"
[15:47] <sven_oostenbrink> I click there, press "test", and hear no sound
[15:48] <BluesKaj> not video recording itself just the audio track,m but yes
[15:48] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: well yea, but I am not interrested in video recording atm :) just want to hear music, but I hear zip
[15:48] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, what's in the list ?
[15:49] <sven_oostenbrink> well like I said, pulse audio sound server
[15:50] <sven_oostenbrink> Nothing else
[15:50] <sven_oostenbrink> I do see two other tabs
[15:51] <sven_oostenbrink> audio hardware setup
[15:51] <sven_oostenbrink> and backen
[15:51] <sven_oostenbrink> backend only gives me a list with "gstreamer"
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ok, sven_oostenbrink , open a terminal and run aplay -l
[15:51] <sven_oostenbrink> the audio hardware setup gives me a device with HDMI stereo output..
[15:51] <sven_oostenbrink> ok
[15:51] <sven_oostenbrink> one sec
[15:52] <sven_oostenbrink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755257/
[15:52] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755257/
[15:54] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , there will be no output ..you're just loading the kernel module audio driver , then reboot
[15:55] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: the reboot is necesary? I'm running something that I should not really interrupt for like, the next 25 mins
[15:55] <sven_oostenbrink> well, more like next 10 mins
[15:55] <sven_oostenbrink> so if I could do without reboot, would be great! :)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, it usually is , but you could try this altho it doesn't always work , sudo alsa force-reload
[15:58] <sven_oostenbrink> trying
[15:58] <sven_oostenbrink> meanwhile, dumb question but.. isnt alsa something from linux sound stoneage? why is it still being used? nofi
[15:59] <sven_oostenbrink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755271/
[15:59] <sven_oostenbrink> sorry, BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755271/
[16:02] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, actually alsa worked very well until politiccs and egos thrust pulseaudio on us , just another layer of audio processing at the time , now alsa has been put to the back burner devel-wise and were stauck with pulse if we want audio on websites with flash
[16:02] <BluesKaj> otherwise alsa works great wwithout pulse
[16:02] <sven_oostenbrink> well yeah, from what I have gathered, linux sound system is a bit of a mess... gstreamer, alsa, pulse, phonon, etc etc.. again, nofi, I just want my audio to work :)
[16:03] <sven_oostenbrink> so ok, I did the alsa force reload, I posted the results.. should it work no?
[16:03] <sven_oostenbrink> now?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> yeah it's a dog's breakfast alright
[16:04] <sven_oostenbrink> I should see more devices in system settings > phonon?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, dunno for sure , it might
[16:04] <sven_oostenbrink> dont see anything yet
[16:04] <sven_oostenbrink> maybe I better do this reboot :)
[16:04] <sven_oostenbrink> brb
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yeah , that's why the reboot is required , all the configs need reloading
[16:11] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: I'm back
[16:12] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, ok and ?
[16:12] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: in system settings > phonon I now see (when selecting audio playback > music) one "built in audio analog stereo" whcih is greyed out, dunno why, and another one saying "GF 106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[16:13] <sven_oostenbrink> that second one is not greyed out, but cliking on it, then "test" gives me no sound yet
[16:13] <sven_oostenbrink> Probably because of -from what it looks like- being HDMI audio
[16:13] <sven_oostenbrink> I need audio out of the standard jack plug :)
[16:14] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, have you updated/upgraded lately
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:15] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: updated the system with 13.04 packages? every day.. upgraded.. IIRC, I installed this 13.04 (which btw is VERY VERY VERY buggy all over the place)  directly, not an upgrade from 12.10
[16:16] <BluesKaj> HDMI is actually a combo of video and audio output and the audio is fed from the soundchip to the hdmi port along with the video
[16:16] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, do a dist-upgrade now
[16:17] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj:  apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[16:17] <sven_oostenbrink> Just done that, nothing
[16:18] <sven_oostenbrink> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:18] <BluesKaj>  sven_oostenbrink  add this to  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf,  options snd-hda-intel index=0
[16:18] <sven_oostenbrink> At the bottom?
[16:18] <sven_oostenbrink> I take it reboot would be necesary again?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> yes and yes
[16:19] <sven_oostenbrink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755341/ contents of the file after modification
[16:19] <sven_oostenbrink> ok like this?
[16:21] <BluesKaj> yes ......you are using the onboard audio
[16:21] <BluesKaj> correct ?
[16:22] <sven_oostenbrink> rebooting, one sec
[16:22] <Guest74723>  Hi,I am getting an error while cmake ..  : the installed kdelibs version 4.8.5 is too old, at least version   4.9.4 is required.So,how can I update it ? sudo apt-get update does not work out :/
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Guest74723, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:26] <BluesKaj> one has to upgrade after updating
[16:27] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: Back
[16:27] <BluesKaj> updting merely populates the package changes , you need to apt-get-upgrade to bring down the changes, Guest74723
[16:28] <sven_oostenbrink> systemsettings > phonon > device preference > audio playback > music, still dont see any other evices
[16:29] <Guest74723> @BluesKaj beside I used sudo apt-get upgrade after sudo apt-get update now using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:30] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink,  open alsamixer in the terminal
[16:30] <sven_oostenbrink> open
[16:30] <BluesKaj> what chip shows up in the upper left?
[16:31] <sven_oostenbrink> CARD: HDA Intel MID
[16:31] <BluesKaj> MID?
[16:31] <sven_oostenbrink> F6 gives me list of sound cards.. should I select from there?
[16:31] <sven_oostenbrink> Card: HDA Intel MID, thats what it shows
[16:32] <BluesKaj> yes try the hde intel without the MID if possible
[16:32] <BluesKaj> hda
[16:32] <sven_oostenbrink> I see there HDA Intel MID , HDA NVidia and USB2.0 camera
[16:33] <sven_oostenbrink> HDA NVidia gives me 4 S/PDIF controls whcih are all on 0
[16:34] <BluesKaj> the nvidia hda should also show a pcm control
[16:35] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, make sure the nvidiahda is showing as the audio chip
[16:35] <sven_oostenbrink> If I select the NVidia, I see Card: HDA NVidia, Chip: Nvidia GPU 11 HDMI/DP, and only 4 S/DPIF controls, all on 0 and I cannot move them
[16:35] <sven_oostenbrink> Chip: Nvidia GPU 11 HDMI/DP is what shows for chip
[16:36] <BluesKaj> GPU is the video chip
[16:36] <BluesKaj> never seen intel mid before
[16:36] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: sooo.. I have the video chip showing as audio chip.... ?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> the hdmi is sown which carries both video and audio
[16:37] <BluesKaj> shown'
[16:39] <BluesKaj> why the intel-hda is using MID or midi is beyond me ...I'm out of ideas
[16:39] <sven_oostenbrink> weirdest of all is
[16:40] <sven_oostenbrink> all this worked under 12.04... Most of the big trouble began when I started using 13.04.. The entire office here is having lots of trouble with this version, while 12.10 was actually quite good.. We're probably going to downgrade to that one again until 13.10 is out and hope that one will work :)
[16:41] <sven_oostenbrink> kmix hangs all the time when I try to use it (99% CPU usage), lots of plasma problems, audio works nowhere, lots of system freezes..
[16:41] <BluesKaj> my onboard audio chip feeds thru the hdmi out , that's a standard setup
[16:41] <sven_oostenbrink> none of that was happening
[16:41] <sven_oostenbrink> so you have audio over HDMI?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yes , I have the option
[16:42] <BluesKaj> and I have to go out for a while
[16:42] <sven_oostenbrink> BluesKaj: well, thanks anyway for the help so far!
[16:43] <BluesKaj> sorry  I couldn't comeup with a solution
[16:43] <BluesKaj> later...
[16:58] <sven_oostenbrink> no problem, at least you tried, thanks for that!
[16:58] <aLEXzION_> Hi everyone, I have some problem with Chromium in Kubuntu 12.10 and checking version I saw is not the last version available...., there is some reason for this ? and much more imporant , there is some extra repo to have the latest version of Chromium ?
[17:00] <Guest6208> Hi, on sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and restarting I am still getting CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake:1390 (message):   ERROR: the installed kdelibs version 4.8.5 is too old, at least version   4.9.4 is required
[17:00] <Guest6208> Please help!!
[17:02] <gribouille2> hi
[17:03] <Guest6208> any suggestion?
[17:03] <gribouille2> I'm using the kubuntu livecd and when I adjust the time, it is ignored by gmail
[17:05] <gribouille2> some programs seem to ignore the modifications to the current time I make
[17:06] <pangolino> hello! Does anybody know if I can install Kubuntu 13.04 with the alternate installer? I want to enable full disk encryption.
[17:07] <pangolino> I've read that can be done using the alternate installer, but read another post that says Kubuntu uses a new "Unified installer" now that doesn't support setting up LVM with encryption.
[17:10] <pangolino> it looks like it's not possilbe. Thanks!
[17:11] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:12] <murthy> lordievader: hi
[17:12] <lordievader> Hey murthy, how are you?
[17:12] <murthy> Guest6208: have you tried reinstalling kdelibs ?
[17:12] <murthy> lordievader: I am fine, how are you?
[17:12] <lordievader> murthy: I'm doing good too :)
[17:13] <Guest6208> sudp apt-get install kdelibs ? @murthy
[17:14] <murthy> Guest6208: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdelibs5
[17:15] <murthy> Guest6208: it seems you have some package dependency issues
[17:15] <Guest6208> still I am getting the same error .
[17:16] <murthy> what does "sudo apt-get cache policy kdelibs5" tell you
[17:16] <murthy> Guest6208: use paste.kde.org
[17:17] <Guest6208> heena@heena:~$ sudo apt-get cache policy kdelibs5 E: Invalid operation cache :/
[17:18] <mhb> Hi: I am getting a DPKG error -- dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: files list file for package `sysv-rc' contains empty filename
[17:18] <murthy> oops
[17:18] <murthy> Guest6208: small error in the command
[17:18] <brue> apt-cache
[17:18] <murthy> Guest6208: its "sudo apt-cache policy kdelibs5"
[17:19] <murthy> brue: in 2 months of leave i forgot that :)
[17:19] <brue> ;)
[17:19] <Guest6208> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wZjkmq3r
[17:21] <murthy> Guest6208: can you give some info about the upgrade>
[17:21] <Guest6208> what info?
[17:22] <murthy> Guest6208: upgraded from version?
[17:23] <Guest6208> I used sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then restarted ..
[17:23] <murthy> Guest6208: before the update what version of ubuntu were you using?
[17:24] <Guest6208> 11.04 I think
[17:24] <murthy> Guest6208: then i guess you are in trouble
[17:25] <Guest6208> uhm any thing I can do?
[17:25] <murthy> Guest6208: we can always try :)
[17:26] <Guest6208> suggest something :/
[17:26] <murthy> checking for a solution, please wait
[17:30] <murthy> Guest6208: what version of ubuntu  does it show when you run this command "lsb_release -a"
[17:31] <Guest6208> heena@heena:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:        12.04 Codename:       precise
[17:31] <Guest6208> it is 12.04 :D
[17:31] <Raporlu_Deli> hi all
[17:33] <murthy> Guest6208: you want 12.04 or 13.04 ?
[17:35] <Guest6322> @murthy I think which ever works
[17:36] <murthy> Guest6208: open muon package manager
[17:36] <murthy> Guest6322: sorry
[17:36] <murthy> Guest6322: you are in the terminal right?
[17:38] <Guest6322> @murthy muon s/w manager or package manager? next step?
[17:40] <murthy> Guest6322: package manager
[17:40] <Guest6322> ok
[17:40] <Guest6322> next?
[17:41] <murthy> Guest6322: in the mesnubar select settings->configure software sources
[17:42] <Guest6322> yes then?
[17:42] <murthy> Guest6322: in the dialog shown goto the updates tab
[17:43] <murthy> Guest6322: in that tab for the "show new distribution releases" setting select "normal releases'
[17:43] <murthy> Guest6322: then after that press the close button
[17:44] <murthy> Guest6322: after that run this command "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[17:50] <Guest6322> then?
[17:51] <Guest6322> there?
[17:51] <murthy> Guest6322: what happened?
[17:51] <Guest6322> after that?
[17:52] <murthy> Guest6322: what happened after you ran that command
[17:54] <Guest6322> it is installing shall i put it in pastebin?
[17:54] <murthy> Guest6322: then wait till it finishes, after that restart your system and see if it solves the problem
[17:55] <murthy> Guest6322: how fast is your internet connection ?
[17:56] <Guest6322> it is mtnl connection
[17:57] <murthy> Guest6322: from India?
[18:09] <lordievader> Is there a way to get KDevPlatform 1.3.60 in Precise?
[18:11] <murthy> lordievader: is it not possible?
[18:11] <lordievader> murthy: It doesn't seem to be in the repo.
[18:11] <murthy> lordievader: in that case you could file a request bug
[18:12] <murthy> I am mean bug report
[18:12] <murthy> lordievader: why do you want a deb?
[18:13] <lordievader> murthy: I'm trying to compile kdev-python, and it needs 1.3.60.
[18:13] <murthy> lordievader: then compile that first :)
[18:15] <lordievader> murthy: Changed the CMake file, gonna see if this works ;)
[18:15] <murthy> lordievader: why?
[18:16] <lordievader> murthy: Because I don't want to compile kdevplatform.
[18:16] <lordievader> :P
[18:20] <lordievader> murthy: Can I simply compile version 1.5 without breaking things?
[18:21] <murthy> lordievader: It may
[18:21] <murthy> lordievader: i mean it may break something
[18:22] <lordievader> murthy: Only kde software I think? If so it is okay, it is for a server.
[18:22] <murthy> lordievader: wait
[18:23] <lordievader> murthy: Sure no problem.
[18:23] <SN3_> god I love KDE
[18:23] <SN3_> it is so easy, friendlyand productive
[18:23] <BluesKaj> sven_oostenbrink, are you still around ?
[18:24] <lordievader> SN3_: :D
[18:28] <murthy> lordievader:  i just checked now and it seems it wont affects kdevelop
[18:28] <murthy> lordievader: wait
[18:28] <murthy> lordievader: i just checked now and it seems it affects only  kdevelop
[18:29] <murthy> lordievader: me sleepy
[18:29] <lordievader> murthy: Ok, shall I just see what happens?
[18:29] <alex______> alquien que hable español? todavia no entiendo que es eto..
[18:29] <lordievader> !es | alex______
[18:29] <murthy> lordievader: try
[18:35] <lordievader> murthy: What I'm after is equipping my server with kdevelop so that I can simply rdp into my server and work on python projects in a good editor.
[18:37] <murthy> lordievader: cool
[18:38] <murthy> lordievader: compiling?
[18:38] <lordievader> murthy: Jup.
[18:38] <lordievader> 20%
[18:40] <murthy> lordievader: I am off to bed now see you later
[18:42] <lordievader> murthy: Sleep well.
[19:30] <mhb> Hi: I cannot get security/system updates to install - I get a dpkg error as: dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  files list file for package `sysv-rc' contains empty filename
[19:31] <mhb> Anyone got any ideas on how to fix this?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> mhb, using apt-get to update ?
[19:33] <mhb> well was using Muon Update manager, tried synaptic and apt-get - same error
[19:33] <BluesKaj> mhb, or muon?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> mhb, could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list  please
[19:39] <mhb> http://paste.kde.org/770780/
[19:42] <lordievader> mhb: Could you also pastbin the full output of "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:46] <BluesKaj> mhb, you're missing the srcs , like deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu , for restricted , universe and multiverse
[19:46] <mhb> http://paste.kde.org/770882/
[19:47] <dolam> hello, the left of my touch pad is not working anymore; it's clicking at random times when i don't touch it, or sometimes stop clicking at all; i suspect this is a software issue; does someone know what can i do to fix it? i have tried sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprove psmouse but it didn't solve anything
[19:47] <lordievader> mhb: Ok, so it really is dpkg failing on the sysv-rc package. Might be a corrupted package.
[19:48] <mhb> Probably, but how do I replace it. it hust don't want to know
[19:48] <mhb> just
[19:49] <mhb> BluesKaj: do you think the sources could make a difference?
[19:49] <lordievader> mhb: The package is probably in /var/cache/apt/archives, remove it and try to install sysv-rc again trough apt-get.
[19:53] <BluesKaj> mhb, try lordievader's suggestion , it's a more direct method than what I was going to recommend.
[19:55] <lordievader> mhb: sudo apt-get clean & sudo apt-get autoclean works too. But please keep it in-channel.
[19:56] <goodtime> lo lordievader
[19:56] <goodtime> hows it going
[19:57] <goodtime> hmm some good commands im guessing
[20:00] <mhb> I cleaned that up with sudo apr-get clean  and  sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:01] <lordievader> mhb: sudo apt-get clean & sudo apt-get autoclean works too. But please keep it in-channel.
[20:01] <lordievader> mhb: And now a "sudo apt-get install sysv-rc"
[20:07] <mhb> just tells me that it is already installed
[20:08] <lordievader> mhb: Ok, run another update/dist-upgrade.
[20:09] <mhb> lordievaders: was just trrying to copy your name and it jumped to you
[20:10] <mhb> I will give it a try and see what happens
[20:59] <mhb> Well that did not work
[21:01] <mhb> There are a bunch of files  /var/lib/info/sysv-rc.* that a=ll seem to be corrupted
[21:02] <mhb> What happens if I delete them?
[21:26] <felix89> hello
[21:26] <felix89> is there a way to turn off the graphic tablet manager? I want to use xsetwacom manually
[21:29] <mhb> Hi, There seem to be a bunch of files in my /var/lib/dpkg/info that are corrupted, is there a way to reload them?
[21:34] <wxl> anyone here have experience with poor printing of pdfs in okular 0.16? 0.14 behaves fine
[21:35] <wxl> it does print out an error page that indicates an "undefinedresult" from the offending "awidthshow" command but i'm not sure what to do with that
[22:03] <stack_> @murthy_ are you there?
[22:42] <esing> According to cnn Asus has 104000 employees and according to Forbes Asus has 21000 employees?
[22:42] <esing> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2009/snapshots/11385.html
[22:43] <esing> http://www.forbes.com/companies/asustek-computer/
[22:48] <OerHeks> esing both are true
[22:48] <OerHeks> one number from 2009, the other from this yeear 2013
[22:53] <esing> Maybe the CNN number includes Asus sister company 'Pegatron'
[22:53] <esing> Pegatron's employees 	104,608 (April 2011)
[22:56] <valorie> folks, we have #kubuntu-offtopic for a reason