[00:03] <Ponch0> darkxt: thanks a much. let me mess around with it.
[00:05] <jbicha> darkxst: you think it's ok to run g-c-c 3.6 with g-s-d 3.8?
[00:05] <Ponch0> nope none of the themes changed it.
[00:05] <darkxst> jbicha, yes, just a few minor dbus changes
[00:06] <darkxst> I believe
[00:06] <darkxst> was acutally talking to seb yesterday about that, he is still not sure if they will fork g-c-c 3.6 or use 3.8
[00:08] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm not sure they're happy with GNOME's direction
[00:08] <darkxst> so suggest we go for just g-s-d 3.8 first
[00:08] <jbicha> for instance https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText
[00:09] <jbicha> I think they want their phone system settings to look like the laptop system settings but the Ubuntu people aren't running 3.8
[00:10] <jbicha> if they want to control that integration they may have to fork
[00:11] <jbicha> I mean Elementary & Cinnamon already forked their own settings panels
[00:11] <darkxst> and its probably better for us if they fork
[00:38] <darkxst> jbicha, have you seen the evolution-calendar-factory and evolution-source-registry crashes since removing UOA?
[00:43] <jbicha> darkxst: I'm not sure, I don't have anything for those in /var/crash/ since yesterday but I just might not have triggered it yet
[06:20] <darkxst> jbicha, does my gnome-shell upgrade for Q break all records now ;)
[06:21] <darkxst> ~4.5 months it took!
[06:22] <jbicha> the final bug that needed confirming wasn't the SRU team's fault though
[06:23] <jbicha> but the 2 months where it was just waiting in the queue was too much
[06:23] <darkxst> was in the queue for more than 2 months
[06:26] <darkxst> jbicha, whats with this? there have been half a dozen packages SRU'ed through that bug without paperwork and now I am supposed to add some? https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/ubuntu/raring/gdm/lp982889/+merge/166402
[07:31] <Noskcaj> Can someone add ubuntu Gnome to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/#QA_related_teams
[11:58] <meet> Am on 13.04. It is freezing a lot.
[12:00] <meet> like everytime i open the activities overview and try to search for an app, it freezes for a while. When i click on the app, it freezes again. Also, gnome shell keeps on crashing. How do I find the cause?
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> I wonder why some of the other GNOME apps (Boxes, Clocks, Chess, Documents, etc.) aren't installed by default in Ubuntu GNOME. Design choice?
[14:52] <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: maybe that should be on our faq
[14:53] <jbicha> Boxes isn't installed by default because it requires hardware virtualization support and in my experience isn't necessarily reliable
[14:53] <SonikkuAmerica> jbicha: It should be! :)
[14:54] <jbicha> it's also not the kind of app the "average person" uses
[14:54] <jbicha> Clocks is nice but I'm really annoyed that you have to keep the app open for alarms to work
[14:54] <jbicha> Documents is included as of 13.04
[14:55] <jbicha> Chess and other gnome-games were dropped by default in 13.04 (but were in 12.10) to keep the install from being too "bloated"
[14:55] <SonikkuAmerica> jbicha: Updated Live image? My Live image didn't have it installed. (I just installed it today from an image I got via cdimage.u.c (BitTorrent)...
[14:55] <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: which release?
[14:57] <SonikkuAmerica> 13.04
[14:57] <SonikkuAmerica> (That's what lsb_release -a told me)
[14:57] <jbicha> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/ubuntu-gnome-13.04-desktop-i386.manifest says gnome-documents is included
[14:58] <SonikkuAmerica> jbicha: That might be the problem... mine is amd64
[14:58] <jbicha> ok, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/13.04/release/ubuntu-gnome-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest
[14:58] <SonikkuAmerica> jbicha: It must not have been included by accident...?
[14:58] <SonikkuAmerica> No, it's there... Strange, isn't it?
[15:01] <jbicha> I think we'll include gnome-weather with 13.10
[15:01] <jbicha> I really like Clocks but that bug/missing feature makes me hesitant to include it by default
[15:03] <SonikkuAmerica> jbicha: What it needs is an indicator.
[15:44] <bjsnider> so the way the weather app works, if it is an app it must work this way, is that you have to seek it out and launch it to look at the weather?
[15:45] <bjsnider> i'd rather have it always there attached to the desktop in some way than have a big clunky window to open and close
[20:27] <bjsnider> the extensions package isn't working. most extensions not showing up in tweak-tool
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: I assume you rebooted...
[20:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Uh-oh. If I don't run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] real fast I'mma have a broken system.
[20:29] <SonikkuAmerica> I have to reboot anyway.
[20:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Ooh... they messed with the shell again. No more "see apps by category," I take it. O_o
[20:34] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: My shell extensions showed up just fine after a reboot.
[20:34] <bjsnider> all of them?
[20:34] <bjsnider> i'm only getting a few
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: Which ones do you have?
[20:36] <bjsnider> 4, plus one i installed that's not part of the core package
[20:36] <bjsnider> maybe i should just install the core package from git, like always
[20:37] <bjsnider> never tried it from a package before
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions ] I assume that's the command you ran?
[20:38] <bjsnider> i aon't no rook
[20:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Well you seem to be a pawn of a bad install... that's all I can think of. :)
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: Do you have the GNOME 3 PPA enabled? (I do, does it make a difference with this package?)
[20:50] <bjsnider> message = '"Missing metadata.json"'
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Hm.
[20:58] <bjsnider> fixed it
[20:58] <bjsnider> no big deal
[21:20] <back_> hi all. Sorry for my english i want to ask you if is there anybody to helps me. I want to try install ubuntu(with gnome-shell) to my new pc. But if i chose option in live cd " try to ubuntu.." Ubuntu boots then loading the shell. I see the Activities, mouse can move but i can not to click on activitis.. Nothing to works.
[21:20] <back_> i have i7 CPU and i chose AMD64- version of ubuntu
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> back_: OK. Those are good choices... can you try booting your Live image with nomodeset?
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !nomodeset
[21:45] <back_> SonikkuAmerica:  i try it
[21:45] <back_> i will try it *
[21:48] <back_> reboot&&try nomodeset