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apw | smb, moin, can you remember the bot-stop- tag name | 07:30 |
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apw | ppisati, moin | 07:30 |
smb | apw, The thing about robots.thingy | 07:30 |
ppisati | moin moin | 07:36 |
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apw | tseliot, i see that 3.10-rc5 kernel finally built, how did the dkms hacking go | 08:08 |
tseliot | apw: I have started working on nvidia. It's going to be a rather invasive patch because of some changes in the kernel | 08:09 |
apw | tseliot, nasty ... | 08:09 |
tseliot | apw: yes, I have to switch to proc_create_data and proc_create, among other things | 08:10 |
tseliot | I bet it will be the same for fglrx and broadcom | 08:11 |
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ppisati | brb | 12:20 |
bjf | apw, should be bot-stop-nagging | 13:10 |
apw | bjf, ta | 13:10 |
rtg_ | apw, any objection to uploading saucy rebased on v3.9.5 today ? 3.10-rc5 still doesn't have aufs support, so I'm not sure we should be switching over just yet. | 13:32 |
apw | rtg_, none, tseliot was having some trouble too, so i thin 3.9.5 is a good place to be | 13:33 |
rtg_ | apw, k, I'm just about done compile and smoke testing. | 13:33 |
apw | rtg_, do you want me to do it, or are you already ... ok then | 13:33 |
rtg_ | apw, have you tested overlayfs in 3.10 yet ? | 13:33 |
tseliot | apw, rtg_: yes please, I'm not done fixing the drivers yet | 13:33 |
apw | rtg_, i am playing in that sandbox right now, not tested that specific combination but that is about to be a sane test | 13:34 |
infinity | BenC: You want to do some install/reboot/fiddle testing of the PPC kernels in raring-proposed on some of your hardware? | 13:34 |
rtg_ | apw, aufs hasn't been updated since march, so we might end up dropping it completely if it is no longer maintained. | 13:34 |
apw | rtg_, they will be pleased :) | 13:35 |
* infinity will mourn the loss of aufs. | 13:35 | |
infinity | Though, if the overlayfs/inotify argument ever amounts to anything, I might stop caring. | 13:35 |
ogra_ | so on the flipped container touch images i get a reboot loop on grouper (all other subarches seem to work and i can boot past the failure point using the grouper desktop kernel) ... | 13:37 |
ogra_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5754882/ | 13:37 |
ogra_ | i assume it is the "Warning: unable to open an initial console" that makes init die ... any obvious idea how i could get that console (without having to enable fbcon which will break the android container) | 13:39 |
ogra_ | (teh kernel panic happens right after run-init switched us to upstart) | 13:40 |
rtg_ | ogra_, I'm not seeing an FBCON option for grouper. CONFIG_FB=y and CONFIG_FB_TEGRA=y are set. | 13:47 |
ogra_ | well, it is there since we use it on the desktop kernel ... | 13:47 |
ogra_ | might depend on something else thats off as well | 13:48 |
ogra_ | but fbcon isnt an option anyway | 13:48 |
ogra_ | it would break the android container | 13:48 |
rtg_ | ogra_, does saucy grouper still work on the desktop image ? | 13:48 |
ogra_ | i tried randomly setting CONFIG_VT and stuff, but didnt get much further | 13:48 |
ogra_ | well, the kernel is the same | 13:49 |
ogra_ | or at least largely ... | 13:49 |
ogra_ | just different configs | 13:49 |
rtg_ | ogra_, configs can make a difference | 13:49 |
ogra_ | so for testing i can replace zImage in the bootimg we use for touch ... indeed it fails miserably later in the boot but it gets past the panic point | 13:50 |
ogra_ | err, yes, i know, thats why i'm here :) | 13:50 |
ogra_ | obviously the -nexus7 kernel has something enabled to make it boot ... which the -grouper one is missing ... | 13:50 |
ogra_ | my way to debug that is to enable options one by one and to do a test boot after a fresh build ... but thats very time consuming so i was hoping you guys have a better idea or see something thats obviously missing or so | 13:51 |
rtg_ | ogasawara, lemme take a stab at diffing the configs | 13:52 |
ogra_ | :) | 13:52 |
rtg_ | ogra_, there are quite a few differences. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~rtg/config.diff | 14:11 |
rtg_ | CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE looks suspicious | 14:11 |
ogra_ | oh, yeah | 14:11 |
rtg_ | ogra_, just pushed a patch to ubuntu-saucy grouper (CONFIG_VT=y). Can you give that a whirl ? | 14:47 |
ogra_ | sure | 14:47 |
ogra_ | i have a call soon, so only afterwards | 14:48 |
rtg_ | I'll flash my N7 with raring in the meantime to make sure it still works | 14:48 |
ogra_ | but i think i tried with CONFIG_VT=y alone already | 14:48 |
ogra_ | CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE sounds more plausible | 14:49 |
rtg_ | ogra_, the whole patch has several more console options enabled | 14:49 |
ogra_ | ah, k | 14:49 |
tseliot | apw: does 3.9.5 have this commit? https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=80e928f7ebb958f4d79d4099d1c5c0a015a23b93 | 14:57 |
apw | tseliot, not obviously | 14:58 |
tseliot | apw: ok, just checking | 14:58 |
apw | tseliot, i cannot see it by sha reference or title, so very likely not | 14:59 |
apw | tseliot, something you need | 14:59 |
tseliot | apw: no, something that breaks the driver | 15:00 |
Roberth1990 | hello how do I get BFS and BFQ? | 15:05 |
apw | Roberth1990, i suspect we need a little more context to have any hope of helping you. | 15:08 |
Roberth1990 | they are a part of the ck patchset for the kernel | 15:09 |
Roberth1990 | which is there again a part og zen and pf patchsets | 15:09 |
apw | if it is part of ck, then its not something we have any trees for, you'd have to apply it yourself | 15:10 |
jsalisbury | ** | 15:11 |
jsalisbury | ** Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting | 15:11 |
jsalisbury | ** | 15:11 |
apw | hallyn, yo ... bug #1098378 ... test kernels in the bug, if you could check them out and report back | 15:59 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1098378 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "chroot+overlayfs seems to cause umount mis-behavior" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098378 | 15:59 |
apw | hallyn, and can you confirm this was new in raring, i think from the fix I expect it was | 16:00 |
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smb | Daviey, That is probably outside the scope of the meeting but if you want dkms packages checked imo its up to you to provide a list of interest. And I cannot recall "all" being agreed anywhere ever. | 16:16 |
Daviey | smb: not agreed, but that is what i requested | 16:25 |
Daviey | it seems easy enough to test all, as it does a handful. | 16:25 |
hallyn | apw: will look, thanks | 16:25 |
Daviey | And for a test that seems really cheap to run, it seems like a good idea to the ubuntu ecosystem to do | 16:25 |
smb | Daviey, Things are always easy when one has not to do it. :-P But anyway, I would say this is something the qa team will be responsible for anyway. So if they do, I won't complain. | 16:27 |
Daviey | smb: it sounded like it was already in progress, from jibel. | 16:30 |
smb | Daviey, It did, and plars just write that email. So we will see | 16:30 |
Daviey | smb: Have you spotted complexity to it that i have blissfully sailed over? | 16:31 |
ogasawara | Daviey: sorry to jump in here, but I've been chatting with jibel about automated DKMS package testing | 16:33 |
Daviey | super! | 16:33 |
ogasawara | Daviey: I actually have a meeting with him on thurs, he has something already prototyped for us to go through | 16:33 |
smb | Daviey, To detect the build failing probably is simple enough (beside resource and time). Just the question what is done with that | 16:34 |
ogasawara | Daviey: but if you can get me the list of dkms packages that your team is specifically interested in, I'll be sure they try to land on the list | 16:34 |
ogasawara | Daviey: initiall, it's just getting a quick build test to ensure they still build with major version bumps of the kernel | 16:34 |
ogasawara | Daviey: specific testing of the modules/packages beyond that would be something I'd consider phase 2 | 16:35 |
Daviey | ogasawara: Right. Just validating that the dkms packages still cleanly install sounds super. | 16:35 |
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ogasawara | Daviey: yep, that's my initial goal | 16:35 |
Daviey | I can get a list.. but as a ubuntu developer, i'd love all to be covered :) | 16:35 |
ogasawara | Daviey: indeed, and I suggested to him to to all the packages that rdepends spit out for dkms | 16:35 |
Daviey | ogasawara: I will make sure I have a favoured list. | 16:36 |
ogasawara | Daviey: great, thanks | 16:36 |
ogasawara | Daviey: I was assuming for you guys is was something like openvs and iscsitarget | 16:37 |
ogasawara | Daviey: not sure what else though | 16:37 |
Daviey | someone in server raised oss4-dkms as another... not sure why i care about that. | 16:37 |
Daviey | (HINT, i don't think i do) | 16:38 |
Daviey | openswan module is interesting, but not demanded | 16:38 |
Daviey | dahdi-dkms is a server universe package | 16:39 |
Daviey | openvswitch-datapath-dkms is the priority | 16:39 |
Daviey | One of the real challenges we face is making these packages work on current development version of ubuntu, and precise (all supported kernels) concurrently | 16:40 |
smb | That oss4 may have been somehow misguided, but that sort of gets me back to the point that a list (not on irc) of interest and to what degree would help | 16:41 |
infinity | ogasawara: `reverse-depends dkms` isn't a remarkably long list, I wonder if jibel could just test the lot? | 16:43 |
infinity | ogasawara: Obviously, we have a priority list of what we care about fixing first, but I want to know if any of them are broken, so we can decide to fix or remove. | 16:43 |
ogasawara | infinity: indeed, I was suggesting to him to just test the lot since it didn't seem incredibly large. I've got a meeting on thurs to sync with him so I'm happy to bring up everything with him and circle back with you et al. | 16:45 |
ogasawara | infinity: or I can just add you to the meeting if you wanted to sit in | 16:46 |
infinity | ogasawara: You can add me, and I'll see how social I'm feeling when it rolls around. :) | 16:48 |
ogasawara | infinity: ack | 16:48 |
smb | infinity, and how awake... | 16:48 |
infinity | And that. | 16:48 |
jsalisbury_ | ## | 17:01 |
jsalisbury_ | ## Meeting starting now | 17:01 |
jsalisbury_ | ## | 17:01 |
jsalisbury | Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Tues June 18th, 2013 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer! | 17:14 |
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* ppisati -> gym | 17:22 | |
* rtg_ -> lunch | 17:25 | |
arges | has anyone here figure out how to upload .crash data from a kernel oops into a new launchpad bug? ubuntu-bug *.crash asks if I want to submit it but gives no feedback afterwards | 17:37 |
arges | ok looks like bug 994921 | 18:06 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 994921 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/app.crash' (and even more so, 'apport-cli -c /var/crash/app.crash') should still allow manual bug filing in stable releases" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994921 | 18:06 |
apw | 2291 apw 9 -11 568m 5904 4792 S 200.0 0.1 1349154h pulseaudio | 18:23 |
BenC | infinity: Yeah | 18:33 |
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apw | bjf, http://people.canonical.com/~apw/unstable-saucy/ | 18:45 |
bjf | apw, ta | 18:45 |
davmor2 | apw: I'm not sure I want to work too close to you now I see you are unstable and saucy ;) | 18:47 |
apw | davmor2, :) | 18:48 |
infinity | BenC: Kay, I already marked it passed for regression-testing based on my own testing, but do let me know if it breaks for any of your platforms, so we can revert that. :P | 18:49 |
BenC | infinity: it worked when I built it, so should be good. I'll let you know if otherwise. | 18:50 |
infinity | BenC: Compiler bugs and bitflips happen. There's also the possibility that I effed up the checkout. Better safe than sorry. :) | 18:51 |
infinity | BenC: Alternately: "It works on 750, 970, POWER5, and POWER7, so sucks to be you if your flavours don't work, nyah nyah." ;) | 18:54 |
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