[00:10] <adam_g_> jamespage, on-the-fly stable branch changelog generation happening in bzr now for folsom and grizzly, eg: lp:~openstack-ubuntu-testing/nova/folsom-commit-tracking
[00:20] <ccssnet> what sense does it make to have a pae only install cd kernel!?!?
[00:20] <ccssnet> someone using 32bit, should later update to pae kernel if they need it. the install cd apears useless as is
[00:26] <adam_g_> Daviey, if you have a minute the latest openstack stable stuff (2013.1.2) is in-queue for raring-proposed
[03:26] <hallyn> stgraber: do you think you'll be pushing any fixes to saucy/lxc in the next week?  if so i'd like to sneak the lxc-stop exit code fix in there with it
[03:27] <stgraber> hallyn: pretty busy with the Ubuntu Touch image updater at the moment and don't have anything urgent on my lxc todolist, so I'm unlikely to have an upload to do
[03:28] <stgraber> hallyn: oh, though I still need to take a quick look at that merge proposal of yours, I guess you could bundle the lxc-stop fix with that
[03:30] <stgraber> hallyn: MP processed, sorry for the delay there, forgot to put it on my todolist...
[03:31] <hallyn> stgraber: cool, thanks
[05:45] <Chunky56> I have a software RAID 5 array where one of the hard drives died--I got a replacement hard drive, but do I need to initialize it before I try to add it into my array? I ask because I tried to add it into my array and it is not automatically resyncing
[10:56] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/heat/ubuntu-refresh/+merge/168517
[11:18] <koolhead17> zul: salute
[11:53] <zul> koolhead17: hey
[11:55] <koolhead17> zul: how are things sir? long time
[11:55] <zul> koolhead17:  busy
[11:55] <koolhead17> zul: hopefully things would have gone much easier now
[11:56] <zul> koolhead17:  you would think so ;)
[11:57] <koolhead17> i mean better than before for sure. See am not making much noise here
[11:57] <koolhead17> :D
[12:03] <zul> neither am i
[12:08] <koolhead17> zul: is that not evident we are in peace :P
[12:43] <zul> hallyn:  i havent had a chance to run the libvirt qa testsuite but 1.0.7 works ok for me
[12:47] <hallyn> zul: ok, cool
[12:47] <mardraum> 1.0.7? o.O
[12:48] <hallyn> i suspect he meant 1.0.6?
[12:49] <mardraum> ok, thought maybe I blacked out for a few weeks :P
[12:59] <mardraum> hallyn: it's not in your ppa right?
[13:00] <mardraum> 1.0.6 has fixed the migration issues for other distros users I have talked to
[13:06] <zul> yeah 1.0.6
[13:10] <hallyn> mardraum: not in mine, nope
[13:16] <zul> jamespage:  http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/
[13:19] <AtuM> Hi. After upgrading to 13.04 I see no cursor in any of the installed desktops (fwmm, wdm, fluxbox).. Xorg reports no errors - the mouse works fine
[13:19] <AtuM> default wm is wdm
[13:27] <zul> AtuM: #ubuntu please
[13:30] <AtuM> zul, that's on the server distro.. desktop guys point me to this channel.. besides.. with the earlier kernel version (3.5.x) mouse cursor is seen.. with the latest one it is not
[13:37] <AtuM> is there a way to get a newer kernel installed?
[13:41] <jamespage> zul, bug 1189909
[13:41] <jamespage> gah
[13:42] <jamespage> zul, took me a while to track that one down
[13:42] <zul> jamespage:  awesome! ;)
[13:47] <AtuM> using 3.8.0.23 the cursor is inivisble, using 3.8.0.22 the keyboard and mouse don't work.. system freezes (using usb keyboard, no ps2 port). will try an even older version
[13:48] <Pici> AtuM: Ubuntu server doesn't have any gui at all, you should be asking in #ubuntu
[13:48] <AtuM> Pici.. so installation of fwwm uses desktop repos?
[13:50] <Pici> AtuM: Both -server and -desktop share the same repositories.
[13:51] <AtuM> Pici, then how come i have 3.8.0-19 as the latest kernel.. and the server has 3.8.0-23 ?
[13:52] <Pici> AtuM: Sounds like you don't have the -updates or -security repositories activated. 3.8.0-19 was the version that was provided when 13.04 was released.
[13:54] <AtuM> Pici, thanks. hope I get this issue solved in #ubuntu ;)
[15:13] <genii> !info hockeypuck precise-backports
[15:13] <genii> Meh.
[15:14] <genii> !info hockeypuck quantal-backports
[15:14] <genii> So just Raring onwards.
[15:18] <smoser> roaksoax, you asked about simplestreams and download for maas..
[15:18] <smoser> utlemming, are the maas simplestreams ready ? i think there is still work there, right?
[15:18] <roaksoax> smoser: yeah
[15:19] <smoser> so there is work to get the streams correct on maas.ubuntu.com/images
[15:19] <utlemming> smoser: yeah, I was just looking
[15:19] <roaksoax> ok
[15:19] <utlemming> smoser: its being generated...just not correctly, I think
[15:20] <utlemming> smoser: I can get that done this week
[15:22] <smoser> roaksoax, but my plan was to use the command-sync tool 'sstream-sync'
[15:23] <roaksoax> smoser: ok, so replace maas-import-ephemerals to use sstream-sync instead?
[15:23] <smoser> thats the basic idea, yeah. and also we'll have data for pxe files too
[15:24] <roaksoax> smoser: ok, so that would replace maas-import-pxe-files and maas-import-ephemerals all together
[15:24] <smoser> tools/hook-image-id in lp:simplestreams might be a start.
[15:24] <roaksoax> smoser: and what about the root images? are we still looking into generating them from a script?
[15:24] <smoser> tools/hook-check-downloads too
[15:25] <smoser> roaksoax, i'm still not sure what to do there...
[15:25] <smoser> i really dont towice
[15:25] <smoser> i really dont want to download the same data twice
[15:25] <roaksoax> smoser: yeah
[15:25] <roaksoax> makes sense
[15:26] <smoser> the path that sabdfl wants is to just use the ephemeral image for the source
[15:26] <smoser> by 'cp /'
[15:26] <roaksoax> right
[15:34] <jamespage> zul: just testing this stuff now prior to upload for staging - http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/ca-updates/
[15:34] <jamespage> the json-* ones also need a look
[15:34] <jamespage> zul, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/havana_versions.html
[15:36] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[15:36] <Will> anyone have a upto date guide on making a ubuntu web server with zpanel or webim?
[15:36] <jamespage> zul, OK - once they have build tested I'll upload
[15:36] <zul> sweet
[15:38] <EDocToor> Hi
[15:39] <Will> hello
[15:41] <Nishok> Hello everyone, I am having issues starting my MySQL server after I have restarted my VDS, here is a screenshot of the SSH: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1730.png Does anyone have any idea?
[15:45] <dlloyd> check syslog for more error messages
[15:46] <rbasak> /var/log/mysql for mysql-specific errors on Ubuntu IIRC
[15:48] <Nishok> dlloyd and rbasak: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1748.png
[15:49] <Nishok> (ignore "ls /var/log/syslog", was a typo :P)
[15:52] <dlloyd> are there any messages in syslog relating to mysql?
[15:53] <Nishok> cat isn't showing anything for syslog.. is it empty?? http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1753.png
[15:53] <Nishok> dlloyd
[15:54] <dlloyd> looks that way
[15:58] <Daviey> adam_g jamespage zul smoser, why is hallyn up as the next chair?
[15:58] <jamespage> Daviey, no idea
[15:58] <smoser> why should he not be?
[15:58] <zul> no idea
[15:58] <smoser> i did last week
[15:59] <jamespage> smoser, ah - I see
[15:59] <Daviey> smoser: he is embedded in the middle of the queue
[15:59] <smoser> "Char Candidates" != "queue"
[15:59] <Daviey> it always used to be..
[15:59] <smoser> well, i did last week
[16:00] <smoser> i dont know who did the week before that
[16:00] <smoser> i think zul
[16:00] <zul> i did the week before smoser
[16:00] <Daviey> ugh
[16:00] <smoser> i could tell you, but no one uploaded meeting minutes btween 0423 and last week
[16:00] <smoser> :)
[16:00] <Daviey> When did people stop moving their name to the tail of the list?
[16:00] <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server
[16:07] <jamespage> adam_g_, zul: I'm really hoping one of you spotted the missing epoch from the 2013.1.2 updates prior to upload
[16:07] <adam_g_> jamespage, where?
[16:07] <jamespage> adam_g_, for example - https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/raring/cinder/2013.1.2/+merge/168177
[16:08] <adam_g_> jamespage, oh ya, i caught that after i merged but before uploading
[16:08] <adam_g_> jamespage, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=1
[16:08] <Daviey> well, it would have got rejected :)
[16:08] <adam_g_> need to push corrections back
[16:09] <jamespage> adam_g_, good-oh
[16:10] <adam_g_> oh actually i fixed them in the merge
[16:25] <jamespage> zul: most of those uploaded
[16:25] <jamespage> python-testtools needs a new dep
[16:26] <zul> jamespage:  do you want me to do testtools?
[16:26] <jamespage> zul, sure - that would be helpful
[16:26] <utlemming> smoser: re Bug 1079897, would you have time to upload that to -propsed?
[16:26] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[16:26] <utlemming> smoser: I have the branches prepped.
[16:27] <smoser> ?
[16:27] <smoser> it is marked fix-released everywhere.
[16:27] <utlemming> smoser: whoops, wrong bug :)
[16:27] <utlemming> smoser: bug 1189571
[16:29] <hallyn> zul: all tests passed on 1.0.6!  woohoo.  now that was on ec2 without /dev/kvm...
[16:29] <zul> hallyn:  good enough for me :)
[16:30] <zul> jamespage:  need python-mimeparse as well
[16:30] <EDocToor> All I wanted to do was to run one OPENSOURCE package called "ofbiz" and it seems that I have to be a Computer Technical wizard and learn EVERTHING server before I can even get started... I would love to quit windows.. but everytime I try to do anything in linux I am deluded by the overwhelming prospect of becoming a Scolar before I can do anything.. Ok, I have to choose between the Red Pill or the Blue Pill... I'll do more resear
[16:30] <EDocToor> ch and return when I discover what my question is.. have a great day everyone ;-)
[16:32] <utlemming> smoser, Daviey: I'm not sure if this a bug, but it look likes like libpam_modules no longer creates /etc/update-motd.d
[16:33] <smoser> $ dpkg -S /etc/update-motd.d/
[16:33] <smoser> base-files, update-notifier-common, ubuntu-release-upgrader-core: /etc/update-motd.d
[16:33] <utlemming> smoser: take a look at the latest daily for the cloud images
[16:34] <jamespage> zul: http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/ca-updates/
[16:34] <zul> jamespage:  http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/
[16:35] <zul> jamespage:  +1
[16:35] <jamespage> zul, you need more -v
[16:35] <utlemming> smoser: this is in regards to saucy
[16:35] <zul> jamespage: doh..
[16:36] <zul> jamespage:  but its the last changelog entry before the upload
[16:36] <jamespage> zul, it really needs to be the changelog since the last upload to the CA
[16:36] <zul> jamespage:  ah ok
[16:36] <zul> jamespage:  and if its a new dep?
[16:36] <jamespage> zul, -v since whats in precise
[16:37] <utlemming> smoser: oh, never mind, it's there...but on first login you don't get anything
[16:37] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[16:37] <jamespage> zul, I though it was always like that
[16:37] <jamespage> at least thats what my script does that I use
[16:37] <zul> jamespage:  nope
[16:38] <zul> im using adam_g_'s script in the openstack-ubunt-testing bzr branch
[16:38] <smoser> utlemming,
[16:38] <smoser> given http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755400/
[16:38] <smoser> is there a way that i know what is "daily" and what is released?
[16:38] <adam_g_> zul, you can specify how many changelog entries to include in .changes
[16:39] <jamespage> adam_g_, zul: ooo - I have a bit of python which works out what the right version to -v from is
[16:39] <jamespage> based on whats in the CA already
[16:39] <zul> jamespage:  oooh
[16:39] <utlemming> smoser: er, you should be seeing dailes...
[16:39] <zul> that would be nice, mind throwing it in openstack-ubuntu-testing scripts
[16:40] <smoser> utlemming, thats 'azure vm image list'
[16:40] <smoser> i'm just confused as to what that represents. which thing is "released" and which is just a daily
[16:40] <utlemming> smoser: the dailes are supposed to be something like Ubuntu_DAILY_BUILD-saucy-13_10-amd64-server-20130611-en-us-30GB
[16:41] <smoser> it'd be really nice if they were named something like:
[16:41] <smoser> ubuntu-saucy-daily-i386-server-20130611
[16:41] <smoser> ie, consistent
[16:41] <zul> adam_g_:  how?
[16:46] <adam_g_> zul, -v
[16:48] <zul> jamespage:  ok updated
[16:53] <utlemming> smoser: okay, the dailies are public now
[16:54] <utlemming> smoser: that was a builder error, that is now fixed
[16:55] <smoser> utlemming, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755460/
[16:55] <smoser> i dont see saucy
[16:55] <smoser> and is still am confused about which is released and which is daily
[16:55] <utlemming> run it again...it looks like some of the end points haven't seen the publication flag yet
[16:56] <utlemming> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755466/
[17:08] <hallyn> stgraber: I'm going to push the lock move patch to staging, as noone has reviewed it, fwiw.  we can always revert it
[17:11] <stgraber> hallyn: must have missed that one
[17:11] <stgraber> hallyn: was that the /run/lock change?
[17:12] <hallyn> yeah
[17:13] <hallyn> zul: could you accept the nomiation for series on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1188850 ?
[17:14] <zul> hallyn:  done
[17:14] <jcastro> utlemming: or smoser: who wants to field this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/306634/differences-between-aws-ubuntu-image-and-a-fresh-install
[17:14] <hallyn> zul: thanks!
[17:14] <stgraber> hallyn: I guess we already have code in there to recursively create the directories?
[17:15] <hallyn> yes
[17:15] <hallyn> that's the mkdir_p
[17:15] <hallyn> oh yeah that's not in the patch context, i see
[17:15] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah, that bit wasn't visible in the diff
[17:15] <stgraber> right
[17:15] <stgraber> ok, sending my ack now
[17:16] <hallyn> thanks - ttyl
[17:19] <zul> hallyn:  about to upload libvirt
[17:19] <hallyn> zul: ok
[17:34] <rbasak> mdeslaur: thanks for the php5-gd fix!
[17:34] <mdeslaur> rbasak: np! :)
[17:43] <Will> having trouble instaling zpanel to my ubuntu server
[17:46] <zotta> hi
[17:46] <Nishok> Hello everyone, I have installed MySQL-Server-5.5 but I can't start it by using "service mysql start", it gives the error "unrecognized service". Here is a screenshot of it being installed + trying to run it: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1945.png
[17:46] <zotta> i want to uninstall bind9
[17:46] <zotta> but it won't stop
[17:46] <zotta> Error: /run/resolvconf/interface either does not exist or is not a directory
[17:46] <zotta> when i do service bind9 stop
[17:47] <zotta> how to uninstall it?
[17:48] <sarnold> Nishok: what does ls -l /etc/init/mysql.conf give you?
[17:48] <Nishok> zotta: apt-get purge bind9 should do the trick (it will remove everything of bind9)
[17:49] <Nishok> sarnold: ls: cannot access /etc/init/mysql.conf: No such file or directory
[17:49] <sarnold> Nishok: is mysql-server-5.5 installed?
[17:49] <zotta> Removing bind9 ...
[17:49] <zotta>  * Stopping domain name service... bind9                                                                           resolvconf: Error: /run/resolvconf/interface either does not exist or is not a directory
[17:49] <zotta> invoke-rc.d: initscript bind9, action "stop" failed.
[17:49] <zotta> dpkg: error processing bind9 (--purge):
[17:50] <Nishok> sarnold: Yes, look at the screenshot to see the information of the mysql-server 5.5: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1945.png
[17:50] <zotta> does not work
[17:50] <sarnold> Nishok: that shows mysql-server is installed, but says nothing about mysql-server-5.5
[17:51] <sarnold> zotta: this is a bit gross... but perhaps "sudo mkdir -p /var/resolvconf/interface ; sudo apt-get purge bind9"
[17:51] <zotta> yay: killall named did the trick
[17:51] <sarnold> oh better :)
[17:51] <Nishok> sarnold: Well, I did "apt-get install mysql-server" and it installed, including asking me to keep the current root passwords or change them, etc.. :/
[17:51] <sarnold> Nishok: hrm...
[17:51] <sarnold> Nishok: what does dpkg -l 'mysql*' look like?
[17:52] <Nishok> sarnold: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1952.png
[17:53] <sarnold> Nishok: aha :) normal is 'ii', 'iU' indicates something is wrong.. try dpkg-reconfigure -a
[17:54] <Nishok> sarnold: TIL :D
[17:54] <Nishok> Anyways, here: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1953.png
[17:56] <sarnold> Nishok: harumph. :)  okay, try "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-client-5.5 mysql-server mysql-server-core-5.5" ...
[17:58] <Nishok> sarnold: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_1957.png
[17:59] <sw> What would be the tar command to put /dir1 /dir2 /dir3 in a .tar.gz called backup_YYYYMMDD?
[17:59] <sarnold> Nishok: there might be a 'polite' way to fix this, but if this were mine, I'd copy the databases and configurations elsewhere, apt-get purge everything, and re-install.
[17:59] <Nishok> I have a backup
[18:00] <Nishok> sarnold: I have a backup of the whole /var/lib/mysql/ folder
[18:00] <Nishok> Is that all I need?
[18:00] <sarnold> Nishok: and probably /etc/my* something
[18:02] <Nishok> sarnold: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_2001.png
[18:02] <sarnold> Nishok: uninstall mysql-server, mysql-server-5.5, and so forth, in the same command
[18:05] <Nishok> sarnold: All clean: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_2005.png
[18:05] <Nishok> What is the best way to install them again?
[18:06] <sarnold> Nishok: mysql-server-5.5 is still 'in', not 'un'... I'd do that one too
[18:07] <Nishok> sarnold: Do I run the autoremove? http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_2006.png
[18:07] <sarnold> Nishok: not yet, maybe later..
[18:07] <Nishok> sarnold: Well, then the mysql-server-5.5 will stay "in"
[18:09] <sarnold> Nishok: okay. now, hopefully "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client" will do the right thing
[18:10] <Nishok> sarnold: Ended with an error? http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_2010.png
[18:11] <dlloyd> see the line about disk space?
[18:11] <sarnold> Nishok: "no space left on device" for /var/cache --- you've got bigger problems to solve. :)
[18:12] <sarnold> *sigh* once again, odd errors that don't look right --> should check disk space first. How many times do I have to learn that lesson?
[18:12] <Nishok> sarnold: I already checked disk.. it has 9GB left D: http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_2012.png
[18:13] <sarnold> Nishok: the important column is 'Avail' -- the nine gigs is actually held aside for root's exclusive use.
[18:14] <Nishok> sarnold: Ah.. Give me a minute to remove some stuff then.
[18:14] <genii> the 5% reserved, yadda yadda yadda
[18:14] <sarnold> Nishok: tune2fs -m  can change the percentage.
[18:14] <sarnold> Nishok: but don't change it too much, maybe 4 percent, just to get you back up and running, and then clear out space...
[18:14] <sarnold> (without free space, the filesystem will fragment itself to death quickly)
[18:15] <Nishok> sarnold: I already cleared 4.7GB (says Avail) and FTP is still going, so I am fine, no need to change % ^^
[18:15] <Nishok> sarnold: Should I just type "apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client" again?
[18:16] <sarnold> Nishok: yeah
[18:16] <Nishok> sarnold: ugh, error because it is already partially installed. Give me a minute to remove them again xD
[18:20] <Will> anyone have a recentish upto date guide on setting up a webserver with ubuntu? i've been following one but im returning some errors involving my sql root
[18:21] <sarnold> Will: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/web-servers.html
[18:24] <Nishok> sarnold: Seems to be installed correctly, only I think the configs are gone (got deleted before I contacted you tho :S), how can I change the config to be able to connect? http://therealnishok.com/screensnapr/2013-06-11_2023.png
[18:24] <sarnold> Nishok: oh nuts :/ that'll be /etc/my.conf or wherever the configuration is stored..
[18:26] <Nishok> sarnold: Looks empty D:
[18:26] <zotta> I have a self-compiled program (without a package, makefile, etc) and want it to be useable in console without specifying the path
[18:26] <zotta> where should i put the elf?
[18:27] <Nishok> sarnold: Got it ^^
[18:27] <sarnold> zotta: I make a new ~/bin/ directory and add $HOME/bin to my PATH on every system I use...
[18:27] <sarnold> Nishok: oh good :)
[18:28] <zotta> sarnold: from other users
[18:28] <sarnold> zotta: /usr/local/bin
[18:28] <Nishok> sarnold: I assume bind-address is the IP I should change? (currently set to local: 127.0.0.1)
[18:28] <sarnold> Nishok: yes, you may need to hcnage others too
[18:30] <zotta> can i su to a user with /bin/false shell?
[18:30] <zul> adam_g_:  http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/ca/
[18:31] <Nishok> sarnold: W00T, got connection, thanks for all your help, holy shit I would have cried in a corner without you :)
[18:32] <sarnold> Nishok: nice! ;) have fun ;)
[18:32] <Nishok> ty ^^
[18:32] <adam_g_> zul, lgtm
[18:32] <zul> adam_g_:  thanks
[18:58] <Will> sarnold: is there a step by step guide for this like http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/11/how-to-install-zpanelx-web-hosting-control-panel-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html/2
[18:58] <sarnold> Will: sorry, no idea on zpanel things..
[18:59] <Will> i was looking into webim as thats the reccomended one
[19:03] <adam_g_> smoser, i think ive hit saucy cloud-init terminating while installing packages across a bunch of machines. all logs end at the same place: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755881/
[19:04] <smoser> adam_g_, it just blocks ?
[19:05] <smoser> you have /var/log/cloud-init.log ?
[19:05] <adam_g_> smoser, no, i dont see anything blocking it.
[19:05] <adam_g_> one sec
[19:06] <adam_g_> smoser, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5755890/
[19:06] <adam_g_> in any case, its runcmd is never running
[19:08] <smoser> adam_g_, The following packages will be upgraded:
[19:08] <smoser> ... upstart
[19:08] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1124384
[19:09] <adam_g_> smoser, ah
[19:37] <adam_g_> zul, was pbr supposed to eliminate python-setuptools-git?
[19:37] <Enich> I am running a lot of ubuntu minimal cd (machines) on a libvirt kvm installation.   And sometime experience that the servers hang in the grub menu.   I cannot seem to figure out the pattern behind it and wanted to know if someone out there has had the same experince
[19:37] <zul> adam_g_:  no its a dependency checker thing
[19:38] <adam_g_> zul, so its dependency on python-setuptools-git is valid?
[19:38] <zul> yeah
[19:38] <adam_g_> hmm
[19:38] <adam_g_> bummer
[20:19] <Enich> I gotta figure out how to get apt-cacher-ng to pick the fastest mirror, it seems it is currently by default just using us.archive.ubuntu.com   any idears ?
[20:26] <andol> Enich: Does apt-cacher-ng even make any mirror selection by itself? Doesn't it just go to whatever your local sources.list is pointing it to?
[20:29] <vlad_starkov> Question: I got a problem after apt-get upgrade on Ubuntu 12.04 with raid1+encryption+lvm. After reboot the LVM-passphrase is always wrong! Anyone know this issue?
[20:35] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: did you follow the recommendation and backup the LUKS header?
[20:35] <Slyboots> Evening
[20:36] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: NO!
[20:36] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: I just started reading about LUKS header...
[20:36] <vlad_starkov> after this happened
[20:36] <Slyboots> LUKS?
[20:37] <vlad_starkov> on another exactly the same machine I made apt-get upgrade and reboot and it's fine...
[20:37] <Enich> andol, Im not sure.. it seems like it has mirrors in the etc directory ..
[20:37] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: I might suggest going to the #ubuntu-devel channel for this question. Off the bat, it sounds like the header may have been corrupted/damaged.
[20:37] <Enich> it for some reason picks us mirrors despight im en europe
[20:37] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: thnaks
[20:37] <Slyboots> Huh.. you cant to RAID5/6 with Btrfs?
[20:38] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: But I read that if I use dm-crypt there is no such a thing like header
[20:38] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: how can I know what I use?
[20:39] <madprops> I set up an ircd-irc2 server but it takes a lot of time to establish connection, is there a way to make this faster?
[20:39] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: "cryptsetup isLuks <Device>"
[20:39] <andol> Enich: From what I recall that mirror list is mostly to merge the cache files from different mirrors containing the same files.
[20:39] <sarnold> madprops: probably disable identd lookups
[20:40] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: If it is raid I should do in initramfs "cryptsetup isLuks /dev/md1" ?
[20:40] <andol> Enich: No matter if apt-cacher-ng can do magic or not, you can definetly point it to a specific mirror using your sources.list entry, so why don't you just pick a good local mirror for now?
[20:42] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: this command returns nothing
[20:42] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: is the raid assembled? i.e. does /dev/md1 exist?
[20:43] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: yes
[20:43] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: and cat /proc/mdstat returns healthy result
[20:44] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: I would go over #ubuntu-devel....you'll find the encryption experts hanging out there.
[20:44] <Slyboots> Damn, this is a bit of a downer, weird taht btrfs doesnt support anything other than RAID1/10
[20:46] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: Asked a question there. But there is silence for the moment...
[20:46] <madprops> sarnold, should I be using  /ircd-hybrid/ ?
[20:46] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: what does "sudo blkid" show?
[20:48] <sarnold> madprops: I'm not sure. On the one hand, taking a distro-provided ircd means you get the community to help support it; on the other hand, if you're running a public network, being 'hooked in' with the upstream ircd developers would probably be useful, whether that's oftc-hybrid or plain hybrid or whatever..
[20:48] <Enich> andol,   The issue is that the deployment is done automatically so i would have to do it via a kickstart file
[20:50] <andol> Enich: I'm afraid I really don't see the problem. Nevertheless, I'm off to bed now.
[20:50] <andol> *poof'
[20:53] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: oooops..... blkid: TYPE="CRYPTO_LUKS"
[20:57] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: so it is a luks...I would backup the header now.
[20:57] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: the server is on the remote side
[20:57] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: i.e. cryptupsetup luksHeaderBackup /dev/md1 header.img
[20:58] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: so it will copy it to the RAM?
[20:58] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: yeah, it won't hurt....just don't reboot until you get into the box
[20:59] <sw> What would be the tar command to put /dir1 /dir2 /dir3 in a .tar.gz called backup_YYYYMMDD?
[21:00] <sarnold> sw: where are you stuck?
[21:03] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: ok that command returned nothing. ls -al shows header.img with 2097152 bytes
[21:04] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: try "crpytsetup luksOpen /dev/md1 volume"
[21:06] <Slyboots> So, heres a query since I cant use btrfs.  Planning on building a NAS/general purpose server for a home user.  What sort of FS would you recomend?
[21:06] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: I'm supposing to launch /lib/cryptsetup/askpass 'unlocking' | /sbin/cryptsetup -T 1 luksOpen /dev/md1 md1_crypt --key-file=-
[21:06] <Slyboots> I know you can just use raid5 with MDADM, but thats very slow doing building/syncing
[21:07] <Slyboots> So I.. really dont know.
[21:11] <shodan45> anyone use atftpd in ubuntu server?
[21:12] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: just a hunch, but does /lib/crytsetup/askpass even exist?
[21:12] <shodan45> and as a daemon, not via inetd, etc?
[21:15] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: I'm rebooting.... will try to enter upper i instead of lover L
[21:15] <vlad_starkov> lower
[21:16] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: It works!!! I feel myself like an idiot spent 1.5 hours dealing with it
[21:19] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: Thank you! As you recommended me I asked people in #ubuntu-devel in addition to #ubuntu-server. Your advices were almost the same as slangasek's from #ubuntu-devel. Thank you guys so much!
[21:20] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: no problem...just back up your headers...and do a lvm backup as well. It never hurts to have a backup of those in case things go south on you.
[21:24] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: what would be the cheatsheet for backup luks and lvm headers? "cryptupsetup luksHeaderBackup /dev/md1 --header-backup-file header.img" for luks. And what will be for LVM?
[21:25] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: its been a while since I've done that....I have not used LVM in a good while. :(
[21:26] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: not a problem. I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel. Anyways now I know that there is LVM headers exist and that I have to backup them :-)
[21:27] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: as far I go with Ubuntu as far I get new knowledge
[21:28] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: thanks again! God save IRC :-)
[21:33]  * vlad_starkov backup backup backup...... and backup!
[21:35] <utlemming> vlad_starkov: try looking at the vgcfgbackup command
[21:35] <vlad_starkov> utlemming: Thanks
[21:51] <madprops> sarnold, pretty much every google result regarding ircd refers to ircd-hybrid
[21:51] <madprops> I'm trying to enable ssl on ircd-irc2
[21:53] <sarnold> madprops: e.g. http://www.oftc.net/CodingProjects/
[23:03] <EDocToor> I am so stupid...
[23:03] <EDocToor> I guess no one is going to debate that... ummm
[23:04] <Will> im logged in as root through ssh (putty) and running some commands but having no response, any ideas?
[23:04] <EDocToor> Will
[23:04] <Will> Hey
[23:04] <EDocToor> we are prob doing the same thing
[23:04] <EDocToor> with vi /etc/network/interfaces
[23:04] <EDocToor> and not knowing what to put in there
[23:05] <Will> im trying to do touch /etc/network/interfaces
[23:05] <Will> and it wont do anything
[23:05] <Will> nor repond with an error etc
[23:05] <EDocToor> my apt-get won't even work
[23:05] <EDocToor> so your better than I
[23:05] <Will> ah mine worked there, lol
[23:05] <EDocToor> LOL
[23:05] <Will> you running in a virtual machine?
[23:06] <Will> like virtualbox?
[23:06] <EDocToor> No new US Box
[23:06] <EDocToor> only thing I touched was interface
[23:06] <EDocToor> nothing works now
[23:06] <Will> http://www.gizmojunkee.com/2012/12/install-ubuntu-minimal-server-webmin/
[23:06] <Will> i went through that guide mate if u want to follow it
[23:07] <EDocToor> so I know that I have the address, netmask, network, broadcast, gateway or dns-nameserver wrong
[23:07] <EDocToor> Awesome.. I will see it that helps
[23:07] <Will> this is doing my head in, even ls command isnt repsonding
[23:08] <EDocToor> we just don't know the rules...
[23:08] <EDocToor> and it isn't obvious to us
[23:08] <Will> huh?
[23:08] <EDocToor> Were you here yesterday? Will
[23:08] <sarnold> Will: what do you mean, "ls command isn't responding'?
[23:09] <Will> yeh
[23:09] <EDocToor> I remember
[23:09] <sarnold> Will: can you pastebin what you've got on screen?
[23:09] <Will> doesn't ls list the files in the current directory through bash/putty
[23:10] <EDocToor> take care Will .. I will read that tutorial and be back...
[23:11] <Will> sarnold: http://pastebin.com/gE6AFsyv
[23:13] <sarnold> Will: your current working directory (/root in this case) has only "dotfiles" in it; ls doesn't show _all_ files by default. try ls -la to see the dotfiles and extended information on those files
[23:13] <sarnold> Will: cp and touch and similar commands will only print output if there are problems
[23:13] <sarnold> they worked fine, so no output.
[23:14] <Will> ahh right
[23:14] <EDocToor> nice... so your good
[23:16] <Will> but when im doing touch /etc/network/interfaces meant to open that up?
[23:16] <Will> for editing?
[23:16] <Will> oh wait no
[23:16] <Will> it creates the directory doesnt it
[23:16] <Will> if its not there
[23:16] <Will> touch is used to create files
[23:16] <sarnold> Will: no; touch only updates the timestamp on a file -- or creates the file, if it does not yet exist.
[23:17] <Will> yeh, i remember now, cheers
[23:17] <Will> been a while since bash ^^
[23:17] <EDocToor> I haven't used touch yet... and wouldn't even know why I would ..
[23:18] <EDocToor> Thanks Will that link might be what I am stuck on.. if it shows what I should type for gateway
[23:23] <Will> sarnold: http://pastebin.com/6tLGDELi
[23:24] <sarnold> Will: &gt; is an HTML entity that should expand to >
[23:24] <sarnold> Will: you might want to find a better guide to learn from :)
[23:24] <Will> ahh haha, guy must of not scripted his blog correctly there then
[23:24] <Will> cheers for the translation
[23:25] <sarnold> a ton of blogs and the like very completely destroy things that you should copy-and-paste.
[23:25] <sarnold> my favorite is the idiot websites that turn " into smartquotes. I think that's a wordpressism.
[23:25] <Will> yeah i never bother with the copy paste just for that factor
[23:25] <sarnold> it's nearly invisible to the naked eye why things break...
[23:26] <sarnold> Will: there's other good reasons to not copy-and-paste from websites: http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
[23:26] <genii> "plagiarism"
[23:26] <sarnold> genii: lol
[23:49] <Slyboots> Hey.. Uh, can anyone give me some advice on a problem so I can finally go to sleep :P
[23:50] <Slyboots> Trying to creatre a 5x disk RAID5 array in Ubuntu 12 server, but for some baffling reason it creates a 4disk array, then tries to build the 5th as a "recovery"
[23:50] <madprops> fsck it, fsck it all night long
[23:51] <Slyboots> with the resync going to take.. well, days and days.. and days..
[23:51] <Slyboots> Right now I've got 5 partitions (all the same size) across 5 disks as /dev/sd?6.  So  I run mdadm /dev/md3 --create --raid-level=5 --raid-devices=5 /dev/sd[abcde]6
[23:52] <Slyboots> The only noteworthy thing in syslog is this "[ 4470.184731] md/raid:md3: raid level 5 active with 4 out of 5 devices, algorithm 2
[23:52] <Slyboots> "
[23:52] <Slyboots> Any ideas?
[23:54] <sarnold> Slyboots: the first bits of googling I find suggest mdadm ... --level=5   not --raid-level=5. Can you check that parameter in the manpage?
[23:54] <Slyboots> sarnold, Sorry.  I have been using --level5
[23:54] <Slyboots> # mdadm --create /dev/md3 --level=5 --raid-devices=5 /dev/sd[abcde]6
[23:54] <sarnold> Slyboots: I see a result about --spare-devices=N -- can you try adding --spare-devices=0 and see if that forces the behavior your want?
[23:54] <sarnold> Slyboots: drat :)
[23:55] <Slyboots> Adding --spare-devices=0 does not seem to alter the behavior
[23:56] <sarnold> Slyboots: sorry, that was my best idea..
[23:56] <Slyboots> I mean, at this rate its going to take over 11 days just to build the array :P
[23:57] <Slyboots> The problem does seem to be its treating disk 5 as a spare ( 5       8       70        4      spare rebuilding   /dev/sde6)
[23:58] <EDocToor> New Ubuntu Server Install; ifconfig results; addr:192.168.1.131,, Bcast:192.168.0.255,, Mask:255.255.255.0,, Loopback addr:127.0.0.1,, Mask:255.0.0.0 -- and I edited interfaces iface eth0 inet static, address 192.168.0.121,, netmask 255.255.255.0,, network:192.168.0.255,,broadcast:192.168.0.255,,gateway:192.168.1.1,,dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
[23:58] <EDocToor> am I doing something wrong that is obvious
[23:58] <Slyboots> Maybe Raid5 doesnt like working on 5 disks?
[23:59] <sarnold> EDocToor: your gateway is in 192.168.1.xxx but your network is 192.168.0.xxx -- one of those is probably wrong.
[23:59] <sarnold> EDocToor: you _can_ have a gateway address that's not in your "local network", but it takes more work, so it isn't very common.
[23:59] <Slyboots> your addr and Bcasta are also on different subnets..
[23:59] <Slyboots> I seriously doubt thats correct