[00:18] can i flash ubuntu with clockwork and if so do i flash both files? [00:25] Hello all [00:26] Is it safe to flash saucy onto nexus 7 hw? === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:28] Hello people [02:28] Is anyobdy there? [02:29] :| === salem_ is now known as _salem [03:59] hi everyone [04:02] i have put Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. But I am unable to connect it to my home wi-fi (WPA2 Personal). After I type in the password and click OK, it shows the list of available wi-fi networks again. It does not connect to the wi-fi. So, I have to enter the password again. But still, it does not connect. Just shows the list of available wi-fi networks again. [04:02] can anyone help? [04:06] rigved: I've not seen that, but hang around; perhaps someone else has. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [04:55] RAOF: ok sure. thanks. [04:55] just fyi, my password is very long. so, is the wi-fi connection timing out by the time I have entered the password? [05:17] sorry for repeating my question: [05:17] i have put Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. But I am unable to connect it to my home wi-fi (WPA2 Personal). After I type in the password and click OK, it shows the list of available wi-fi networks again. It does not connect to the wi-fi. So, I have to enter the password again. But still, it does not connect. Just shows the list of available wi-fi networks again. === Stskeepz is now known as Stskeeps === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [06:51] Unable to connect to secured wi-fi from Nexus 7 running Ubuntu Touch 13.04 | http://askubuntu.com/q/306734 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === adc_ is now known as adc === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [08:50] rsalveti: and here i thought you wanted to talk to me :( [08:52] Morning all, quick question if anyone is able to answer.. [08:52] Does the ubuntu release still come with all of the dummy data, contacts, etc? [08:54] not the latest ones, no === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [09:17] orga_: Ah ok, thats good. Has much changed since release? [09:17] I did install but all of the dummy data was annoying :p [09:17] since release ? [09:17] well, I flashed the first day the preview became available [09:17] the release is due for october, there was no release yet [09:18] and pretty much went abck to cynogen mod the day after [09:18] since then a lot has changed [09:18] geez, cannot type today. [09:18] there are people that use it as daily driver [09:18] may give it a shot again then [09:19] is 3G data going to be added soon? :) [09:19] that's pretty much the only thing stopping me from switching right this moment [09:20] Isn't it working already (with some manual tinkering needed) ? [09:20] 3G data works since two weeks, there is no UI to cionfigure it though, you need to do it via adb [09:20] so in your opinion it's good enough at present to be used as a daily release? [09:22] dunno, ask someone who does it use that way :) i know there are people, i personally dont since i break the image to often during development [09:24] I've got time to burn today so I might give it a spin, not like reflashing another distro is hard [09:24] cheers for the answers. [09:26] I tried using it, but couldn't do anything, couldn't open any apps, change settings, etc. Could only just swipe around [09:27] you can make calls, surf the web, send text messages, import your contacts etc [09:27] I was trying on my nexus 7. [09:28] I am using the Ubuntu full image on my Nexus 7 and it works decently/ [09:28] well, many of the coreapps should work too [09:28] the nexus7 desktop image was just an interim thing, it is dead [09:31] meant to ask, is there an email client in the core apps? [09:32] nope, not atm [09:32] ah ok, I'll hold fire then - thanks again :) [09:33] (feel free to write one :) ) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === greyback is now known as greyback|shops === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === om26er is now known as om26er|away === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [11:15] is it an SDK bug that if I assign the image property of an UbuntuShape to a variable instead of directly to an Image then it doesn't get the nice rounded corners? [11:18] alternatively, can I make a fading transition happen when changing the image source? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:19] it updates after the duration but abruptly [11:43] sergiusens, do you already build saucy android images ? (i'm looking for one with the new qtubuntu stuff in it) [11:45] ogra_: when was it merged? [11:45] dunno, there was an upload to saucy last night [11:46] ogra_: qtubuntu or hybris? [11:46] qtubuntu [11:46] ogra_: ok, so yes I do, it's in jenkins [11:46] great, is it in the raring ones ? [11:46] the android/saucy thing confused me for a bit :-P [11:46] Laney, you might want to try #ubuntu-app-devel for sdk questions (though I think most people who are on there are on -touch as well, but I've been told it's the sdk channel) [11:47] well, i wasnt sure we build two different android sets now [11:47] ogra_: as soon as I get a green light it will be in the same location [11:47] seb128: oh ok, more channels I guess [11:47] * Laney finds one to leave === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|lunch [11:58] plars, didnt you write a patch for upstart to support things like "reboot bootloader" and "reboot recovery" ? [11:58] we could need that in the flipped container images [11:59] hey popey [11:59] yo [12:00] anyone with whom I can talk about the emulator? [12:00] cdesai: depends, got specific questions? [12:01] if it's about the way the image is deployed to device, sergiusens is probably the guy [12:01] yep that's what I was thinking of now === foka_ is now known as foka === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === penk_ is now known as penk [12:42] ok people, all very good, but in my samsung i9100 i can't use RIL, please dev staff, help the community. === mzanetti|lunch is now known as mzanetti === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:49] ogra_, to try out the flipped container images, am I supposed to use "raring-preinstalled-*" images? I see nothing starting with "saucy". [12:50] diwic, onlt mako and maguro work currently, and yes, they use the armel zips [12:51] *only [12:51] ogra_, ok. I'll wait for the grouper to start working then [12:52] sadly grouper is evil to me ... [12:52] just goes into a reboot loop [12:53] ogra_, that's not nice of it [12:53] nope ... it slowly moves away from being my favorite arch [12:54] diwic, oh, btw, where did you look for the images ? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:54] diwic, flipped ones are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [12:55] ogra_, ah, thanks, I think I selected ubuntu-touch-preview [12:56] ah, thats the jenkins sync for non flipped === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === bfiller is now known as bfiller_afk === boiko_ is now known as boiko [13:13] ogra_: no, wasn't me, sorry [13:13] plars, oh, i thought you did that for the desktop n7 image tests [13:15] ogra_: ah, no I was just removing the boot partition to force it to reboot into fastboot [13:15] that way it could be reflashed on reboot, and booted over fastboot with a new kernel and whatever options we wanted [13:15] ah, k, i think we better dont do trhat in production :) [13:17] yeah :) [13:18] iirc xnox looked at upstart for this too [13:19] hm?! [13:21] plars: ogra_: "$ sudo reboot -f bootloader" works with phablet images and gets one into fastboot mode. [13:22] ogra_: or were you after something else? === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk [13:24] xnox, doesnt work with upstart ... you are using the android init there :) [13:24] xnox, i need it to work in upstart for the flipped container [13:25] ogra_: it does. and reboot binary above is from the upstart package. [13:25] (works with ubuntu-core images as well) [13:25] oh [13:25] do we have a bootloader option too ? [13:26] it's just a syscall with optional "string" parameter. you can type anything there. kernel does something with it, like passes to firmware and we shall hope firmware knows what to do. [13:26] ogra_: from trial & error: bootloader - gives fastboot mode; recovery - reboots into recovery. [13:26] I have no idea if others are supported. I got the above two from adbd source code =) [13:27] also no idea how portable this is across devices..... [13:27] should be good as long as there is an android kernel [13:27] wow [13:28] thanks ! [13:29] xnox: recovery should be supported on most devices, and I think Samsung is the only exception for fastboot, most of the others have it === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:08] balloons: do you know why these are blocked on a build from May? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds === bfiller_afk is now known as bfiller === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [14:41] How do I get an UbuntuShape to transition (fade) between different images? | http://askubuntu.com/q/306868 [14:49] mhall119, ping [14:51] popey: ping [14:54] nik90: hey [14:54] popey: would you be attending today's hangout for Alarms API meeting? [14:54] It was organised by mhall119 [14:55] popey: and hi :-) [14:55] yes [14:56] popey: do you have the link to the hangout? [14:58] pm'ed you === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [15:17] sil2100: nerochiaro: oSoMoN: notes-app, camera-app and mediaplayer-app now in saucy! :) [15:17] ogra_: sergiusens: FYI ^ [15:20] didrocks: yay [15:27] * ogra_ hugs didrocks [15:27] awesome ! [15:28] * didrocks hugs ogra_ back [15:29] didrocks: yay! === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === k1l_ is now known as k1l [15:51] Saviq, splitting up and successful testing of the backend- and shell-part done... the two MRs are up. === jykae_ is now known as jykae [15:52] MacSlow, yup, saw that, nice! [15:52] Saviq, also sent and email to you and Jussi [15:54] already CI-approved :) [15:56] huh? === zumbi_ is now known as Guest99492 === vanhoof_ is now known as vanhoof [16:14] ckpringle: ping [16:15] mhr3, kenvandine: better to discuss here than in the middle of didrocks' meeting [16:15] mhr3, the account settings UI works now on saucy [16:15] thanks :) [16:15] but the stack isn't built for raring yet [16:15] mhr3, for now you have to use the uoa-create script [16:17] kenvandine, my primary question is whether we'll have the social scope available on the phone, people said that it might not be because uoa isn't there yet in good enough state [16:17] uoa works fine [16:17] and as soon as the images are switched to saucy they'll have the UI for setting them up [16:18] kenvandine, well using a script to set it up is probably the "not good enough state" :) === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:18] i think we are close to switching the builds to saucy... and everything is there for the settings UI for saucy already [16:18] just waiting for that switch [16:19] mhr3, hope that helps [16:19] kenvandine, awesome, yep it does [16:19] thx [16:19] np [16:20] kenvandine, so the current S desktop scope will work ootb, right? [16:20] mhr3, yes [16:20] good [16:20] i'd love to see that on the phone :) [16:23] mhr3, is there a porting guide for the new scopes api? I need to fix a lens [16:24] pmcgowan, not atm, python scope? [16:25] yes [16:25] mhr3, maybe a model to look at and compare? [16:25] example I mean [16:26] pmcgowan, any of these should do - https://code.launchpad.net/unity-scopes [16:26] for example https://code.launchpad.net/~submarine/unity-scope-wikipedia/trunk [16:26] mhr3, ok thanks [16:27] pmcgowan, we might make it even simpler for python at some point, so if you're not in a hurry to port you can try to wait a bit more :) [16:28] mhr3, sounds compelling! === om26er_ is now known as om26er [16:43] lool: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image is the new location for our various branches. Only got mine moved there so far but expect barry to do the same soonish. === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === alan_g is now known as alan_g|life [17:20] Hello [17:20] I'm wondering - is Ubuntu touch supporting pin locked SIM cards on GNex? [17:21] I've got this evil SIM card where you can't disable PIN lock [17:49] will ubuntu touch be available for galaxy s4? [17:52] anybody here? === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === olli_ is now known as olli === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [19:23] How to install Ubuntu Touch on unofficial cyanogenmod ports | http://askubuntu.com/q/306976 [19:24] nik90, so I'm starting on that common emulator we spoke about yesterday for ubuntu sdk apps and autopilot :-) [19:25] just wanted some feedback on what utility functions might be useful we haven't though tof [19:28] hey all, cellular data is not working for me today :,( [19:29] did something change? [19:29] I get "No suitable device found: no device found for connection [19:31] cyphermox, ^ ? [19:31] do calls work ? [19:31] ogra_, yes [19:31] rickspencer3: wifi connection? [19:31] 3G [19:31] ok [19:31] does nmcli dev list /ril_0 ? [19:31] 'nmcli dev' [19:33] cyphermox, hold on, I need to reboot the phone [19:33] I guess [19:33] balloons: sure, go ahead :) [19:33] rickspencer3: you're using today's image? [19:33] cyphermox, yes [19:33] ok [19:33] the osk is not displaying the buttons for the terminal app :/ [19:34] is that the saucy image? [19:34] so I didn't get the right image [19:34] cyphermox no [19:34] that would be worse :) [19:34] I just used phablet-flash [19:34] ok [19:35] cyphermox I ran nmcli dev list /ril_0... what am I looking for? [19:36] I'm sorry I was unclear [19:36] nmcli dev [19:36] you should see /ril_0 in the list there [19:36] cyphermox, no, not in there [19:36] if not, NM didn't see ofono for some reason... after reboot it might be because something changed in the image we build, and now you don't have the right version of NM there [19:37] could you run [19:37] dpkg -l network-manager | cat [19:37] normally you should see 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu6phablet3 there [19:37] IIRC [19:38] * rickspencer3 plugs in phone to switch to ubuntu_chroot [19:38] cyphermox, is says 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu6phablet3 [19:47] rickspencer3: ok [19:47] I'll just reflash to the right image to debug that [19:48] cyphermox, note that I hit this when I was moblie [19:48] let me reboot and see if it works before I go out of range of the wireless [19:49] rickspencer3: are you on IRC from your phone? [19:49] no [19:49] ah ;) [19:49] cyphermox, no [19:49] so reboot doesn't help? [19:49] didn't know there was an irc client [19:49] checking [19:49] no, there isn't an irc client [19:49] I'm thinking I might write a QML frontend for quassel when I don't need to fight fires [19:50] cypher [19:50] but for now... I mean 3G was working great so far, I'm not sure why it's broken for you just now [19:50] I did adb reboot [19:50] $adb root [19:50] perhaps there was a piece that crashed in ofono or NM [19:50] ok [19:50] $adb shell [19:50] $ubuntu_chroot shell [19:50] then got [19:50] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# nmcli dev [19:50] DEVICE TYPE STATE [19:50] wlan0 802-11-wireless connected [19:50] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# [19:50] is ofonod running? [19:52] cyphermox, hmm, ps doesn;t work in ubuntu_chroot shell [19:52] cyphermox, how do I check if it's running? [19:53] mount -t proc proc /proc [19:53] ps -ef | grep ofono [19:53] or sudo start ofonod [19:53] actually, that's without the d === Fyodorovna is now known as wlee-nilee [19:54] cyphermox, [19:54] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# ps -ef | grep ofono [19:54] root 1021 261 0 19:49 ? 00:00:00 ofonod --noplugin=atmodem [19:54] phablet 1144 261 0 19:49 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-ofono [19:54] root 1442 1256 0 19:53 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto ofono === wlee-nilee is now known as wilee-nilee [19:54] hi [19:54] rickspencer3: could you run "sudo restart network-manager" ? [19:54] rickspencer3: maybe someone changed the start sequence [19:54] someone here? [19:55] cyphermox, ok, done [19:55] JC_: can I help? [19:55] cyphermox, [19:55] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# nmcli dev [19:55] DEVICE TYPE STATE [19:55] wlan0 802-11-wireless connected [19:55] JC_: just ask your question and give me a bit of time to finish helping rickspencer3 :) [19:55] rickspencer3: wow [19:55] nothing.. [19:55] rickspencer3: I don't know why it's not working [19:55] cyphermox, well, it should be working now, no? [19:56] rickspencer3: I'm reflashing to the raring image now, I would see the same behavior [19:56] rickspencer3: totally [19:56] it should be working [19:56] cypher, sorry [19:56] /ril_0 gsm disconnected [19:56] rickspencer3: you still get calls? [19:56] cyphermox, nothign new should have been added to raring afaik [19:56] xchat thought I was making a call [19:56] rickspencer3: ok [19:56] rickspencer3: so things good to enable data now? [19:56] cyphermox, sorry, xchat thoght I was making a commend [19:57] if the device shows up, you should be able to bring up the connection [19:57] i have a samsung galaxy tab, and i try to install ununtu touch but i can't, i've been guide for this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [19:57] sure. I get bit by that everytime I past that output too [19:58] JC_: did you get the images for the right device from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working.2C_but_not_available_from_cdimage.u.c ? [19:58] too bad I gave away my galaxy tab 2 some time ago [19:58] cyphermox, well, it didn't get the same error, but looks like it is going to time out [19:58] maybe I am not getting cell reception here [19:59] rickspencer3: if it times out, try again once, if it still times out, there's definitely another issue [19:59] let me go up front and try [19:59] rickspencer3: I noticed every once in a while the Online property doesn't get set properly === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [20:00] cyphermox, so, when I went up front where the signal is strong, it connected immediately [20:00] or at least appeared to, I didn't test the connection [20:00] rickspencer3: perhaps I'll upload a new NM to the ppa for raring to enable debug output for NM by default [20:00] ok [20:00] cyphermox, why do you think it couldn't see ril when it started? [20:01] rickspencer3: was it immediately from boot? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [20:01] cyphermox, ? [20:01] not sure what you are asking [20:01] was it broken from boot or was it broken after a while? [20:01] I can adb reboot and then see if it sees ril, if that's what you mean [20:02] cyphermox, it was broken from boot, I think [20:02] let me try rebooting [20:02] I expect from a clean boot /ril_0 should pretty much always be there [20:02] cyphermox, what is a "clean boot" [20:02] ? [20:02] I usually use adb reboot [20:02] well, adb reboot is good [20:03] cyphermox, there is no ril after adb reboot [20:03] ugh [20:03] then I restart network manager, and it is there [20:03] right [20:03] I just repro'd it [20:03] great [20:04] cyphermox, certainly I am not the only one seeing this? [20:04] shouldn't be, no [20:04] ofono must have changed [20:04] cyphermox, I have 153 and there is no ofono update to get [20:04] or... something, anyway, has to have changed. it was working fine for the past two weeks no? [20:04] I wonder about android bits [20:04] rsalveti, ^^ [20:05] i think yes [20:07] well in the manual instalaction its seems a litle strange, tell us to do two equal things [20:08] JC_: it's not the same image [20:08] JC_: for the unofficial images you should really follow the xda-developers forum posts for installing the images [20:09] can u give me a link? [20:10] depends on the actual device you have [20:11] samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 [20:12] JC_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38456296 [20:12] notice the entries around the middle: generic part is something you need to flash anyway, using what's at wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [20:13] and then you'll need to download the device-specific image from that mediafire link [20:13] you flash the device-specific part first, and then the generic part [20:13] that's the best I can offer === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [20:20] rickspencer3: I got /ril_0 [20:21] rickspencer3: can I send you diffs for small changes to make to the network-manager and ofono init scripts so we get more logs? [20:21] cyphermox, well ... [20:21] should we rather wait until we have saucy images? [20:21] and debug those if necessary? [20:22] maybe, but since you can already reproduce the issue it would be good to still have a trace of it [20:22] I worry about pouring too much into this image if by Thursday or so we are on saucy, which may have a different set of problems [20:22] cyphermox, ok, tell me what to do :) [20:22] it already has a different set of problems tbh :/ [20:24] rickspencer3: you'd need to edit /etc/init/ofono.conf to add -d as a parameter [20:24] and to edit /etc/init/network-manager.conf to add [20:24] hmm, I thought I did [20:24] --log-level=debug --log-domains=core,mb [20:24] perhaps the one for ofono is already done [20:24] maybe it got blown away when I did phablet-flash [20:27] cyphermox, at what line do I add the log-level switch? [20:27] to exec NetworkManager === racarr_ is now known as racarr [20:28] cyphermox, done .. next? [20:29] that's all [20:29] adb reboot [20:29] then send me /var/log/syslog [20:29] it will have the debug logs for the initialization of NM and when it asks ofono about modems [20:29] cyphermox, do you want me to delete the existing syslog first? [20:30] seems like it might end up a pretty long file if I don't [20:30] as you wish, a new boot is pretty evident anyway [20:30] yeah [20:33] rickspencer3: stopped working with the same phone and same sim card? [20:34] rsalveti, yes [20:34] cyphermox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5756160/ [20:34] let me compare the changes, but nothing really changed [20:34] * rickspencer3 hopes there are no passwords in there [20:34] rsalveti: no, nothing appears to have changed [20:34] rickspencer3: there shouldn't be any passwords in NM logs, ever [20:34] hm, similar logs as we had when people were roaming [20:34] sergiusens: ^ [20:34] could it be because I am rebooting the phone somewhere where there is not good cell receptivity? [20:35] maybe, there's a similar issue when people are roaming, might be that you got connected to a different network [20:35] because of the low signal [20:37] rsalveti: rickspencer3 if it's the issue I had, the modem would be unAttached [20:37] but if coverage is low, not sure it's the same thing [20:38] Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:handle_response() RIL Reply: RIL_REQUEST_SET_NETWORK_SELECTION_AUTOMATIC serial-no: 40 errno: SUCCESS [20:38] Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:ril_request_create() req: RIL_REQUEST_VOICE_REGISTRATION_STATE, id: 71, data_len: 0 [20:38] Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:dispatch() RIL Event: UNSOL_RESPONSE_VOICE_NETWORK_STATE_CHANGED [20:38] you keep getting: [20:38] Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:dispatch() RIL Event: UNSOL_RESPONSE_VOICE_NETWORK_STATE_CHANGED [20:39] which is usually related with low signal [20:39] rsalveti, so when I go to where there is signal, I can make a call, but NM doesn't know about ril being there yet? [20:40] rickspencer3: maybe the signal is not good enough to make data calls, and something we might not be handling internally yet [20:40] rsalveti: it's irrelevant to the modem showing up in NM though [20:41] and I'm not sure the stack would get fixed automatically once you get good signal again [20:41] there's a sleep 8 as a pre-start script for ofono though [20:41] cyphermox: right, it's probably internal ofono [20:41] that's a different issue [20:41] so it will take 8 seconds before ofono starts... [20:41] that's because the socket is not there yet [20:41] well, that does tend to affect NM though [20:41] rickspencer3: so mind rebooting the phone in a place you know you have good signal? [20:42] just for a quick test [20:42] cyphermox: why? [20:42] of course there isn't /ril_0 if nmcli dev is run too early [20:42] cyphermox: nm should be getting all the events when the modem is up [20:42] cyphermox: but shouldn't affect calls [20:42] sergiusens: correct, it wouldn't affect calls [20:42] well [20:42] the problem right know is that inside ofono we just expect things to work right from boot [20:42] you could only do calls from after ofono is started === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [20:43] if you don't have a signal, or if you're roaming, it might need a few changes so it can better track the network state changes [20:43] rsalveti: sergiusens: I think you're mixing issues though [20:44] once ofono is started, NM should immediately see the modems from ofono, regardless of GPRS, modem, or Sim status [20:44] right [20:44] what I'm trying to figure out is why /ril_0 wasn't listed in nmcli dev [20:45] our issue might be that the signal might be enough for calls, not for data [20:45] hm, right [20:45] the issue might be that while sleep 8 solves the issue with that socket most of the time, sometimes it's not sufficient [20:45] I don't think this is related with the sleep [20:46] cyphermox: if the modem is not attached, it doesn't show, right? [20:46] as we're already looking for signals [20:46] no [20:46] it always shows [20:46] as long as the modem is detected [20:46] Jun 11 20:31:09 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[415]: ofono is now available [20:46]