[00:18] <spoon> can i flash ubuntu with clockwork and if so do i flash both files?
[00:25] <compuspital> Hello all
[00:26] <compuspital> Is it safe to flash saucy onto nexus 7 hw?
[02:28] <GeekyGamer14> Hello people
[02:28] <GeekyGamer14> Is anyobdy there?
[02:29] <GeekyGamer14> :|
[03:59] <rigved> hi everyone
[04:02] <rigved> i have put Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. But I am unable to connect it to my home wi-fi (WPA2 Personal). After I type in the password and click OK, it shows the list of available wi-fi networks again. It does not connect to the wi-fi. So, I have to enter the password again. But still, it does not connect. Just shows the list of available wi-fi networks again.
[04:02] <rigved> can anyone help?
[04:06] <RAOF> rigved: I've not seen that, but hang around; perhaps someone else has.
[04:55] <rigved> RAOF: ok sure. thanks.
[04:55] <rigved> just fyi, my password is very long. so, is the wi-fi connection timing out by the time I have entered the password?
[05:17] <rigved> sorry for repeating my question:
[05:17] <rigved> i have put Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. But I am unable to connect it to my home wi-fi (WPA2 Personal). After I type in the password and click OK, it shows the list of available wi-fi networks again. It does not connect to the wi-fi. So, I have to enter the password again. But still, it does not connect. Just shows the list of available wi-fi networks again.
[06:51] <AskUbuntu> Unable to connect to secured wi-fi from Nexus 7 running Ubuntu Touch 13.04 | http://askubuntu.com/q/306734
[08:50] <awafaa> rsalveti: and here i thought you wanted to talk to me :(
[08:52] <krs360> Morning all, quick question if anyone is able to answer..
[08:52] <krs360> Does the ubuntu release still come with all of the dummy data, contacts, etc?
[08:54] <ogra_> not the latest ones, no
[09:17] <krs360> orga_: Ah ok, thats good. Has much changed since release?
[09:17] <krs360> I did install but all of the dummy data was annoying :p
[09:17] <ogra_> since release ?
[09:17] <krs360> well, I flashed the first day the preview became available
[09:17] <ogra_> the release is due for october, there was no release yet
[09:18] <krs360> and pretty much went abck to cynogen mod the day after
[09:18] <ogra_> since then a lot has changed
[09:18] <krs360> geez, cannot type today.
[09:18] <ogra_> there are people that use it as daily driver
[09:18] <krs360> may give it a shot again then
[09:19] <deiu> is 3G data going to be added soon? :)
[09:19] <deiu> that's pretty much the only thing stopping me from switching right this moment
[09:20] <cdesai> Isn't it working already (with some manual tinkering needed) ?
[09:20] <ogra_> 3G data works since two weeks, there is no UI to cionfigure it though, you need to do it via adb
[09:20] <krs360> so in your opinion it's good enough at present to be used as a daily release?
[09:22] <ogra_> dunno, ask someone who does it use that way :) i know there are people, i personally dont since i break the image to often during development
[09:24] <krs360> I've got time to burn today so I might give it a spin, not like reflashing another distro is hard
[09:24] <krs360> cheers for the answers.
[09:26] <daniel3> I tried using it, but couldn't do anything, couldn't open any apps, change settings, etc.  Could only just swipe around
[09:27] <ogra_> you can make calls, surf the web, send text messages, import your contacts etc
[09:27] <daniel3> I was trying on my nexus 7.
[09:28] <daniel3> I am using the Ubuntu full image on my Nexus 7 and it works decently/
[09:28] <ogra_> well, many of the coreapps should work too
[09:28] <ogra_> the nexus7 desktop image was just an interim thing, it is dead
[09:31] <krs360> meant to ask, is there an email client in the core apps?
[09:32] <ogra_> nope, not atm
[09:32] <krs360> ah ok, I'll hold fire then - thanks again :)
[09:33] <ogra_> (feel free to write one :) )
[11:15] <Laney> is it an SDK bug that if I assign the image property of an UbuntuShape to a variable instead of directly to an Image then it doesn't get the nice rounded corners?
[11:18] <Laney> alternatively, can I make a fading transition happen when changing the image source?
[11:19] <Laney> it updates after the duration but abruptly
[11:43] <ogra_> sergiusens, do you already build saucy android images ? (i'm looking for one with the new qtubuntu stuff in it)
[11:45] <sergiusens> ogra_: when was it merged?
[11:45] <ogra_> dunno, there was an upload to saucy last night
[11:46] <sergiusens> ogra_: qtubuntu or hybris?
[11:46] <ogra_> qtubuntu
[11:46] <sergiusens> ogra_: ok, so yes I do, it's in jenkins
[11:46] <ogra_> great, is it in the raring ones ?
[11:46] <sergiusens> the android/saucy thing confused me for a bit :-P
[11:46] <seb128> Laney, you might want to try #ubuntu-app-devel for sdk questions (though I think most people who are on there are on -touch as well, but I've been told it's the sdk channel)
[11:47] <ogra_> well, i wasnt sure we build two different android sets now
[11:47] <sergiusens> ogra_: as soon as I get a green light it will be in the same location
[11:47] <Laney> seb128: oh ok, more channels I guess
[11:47]  * Laney finds one to leave
[11:58] <ogra_> plars, didnt you write a patch for upstart to support things like "reboot bootloader" and "reboot recovery" ?
[11:58] <ogra_> we could need that in the flipped container images
[11:59] <cdesai> hey popey
[11:59] <popey> yo
[12:00] <cdesai> anyone with whom I can talk about the emulator?
[12:00] <popey> cdesai: depends, got specific questions?
[12:01] <popey> if it's about the way the image is deployed to device, sergiusens is probably the guy
[12:01] <cdesai> yep that's what I was thinking of now
[12:42] <krabador> ok people, all very good, but in my samsung i9100 i can't use RIL, please dev staff, help the community.
[12:49] <diwic> ogra_, to try out the flipped container images, am I supposed to use "raring-preinstalled-*" images? I see nothing starting with "saucy".
[12:50] <ogra_> diwic, onlt mako and maguro work currently, and yes, they use the armel zips
[12:51] <ogra_> *only
[12:51] <diwic> ogra_, ok. I'll wait for the grouper to start working then
[12:52] <ogra_> sadly grouper is evil to me ...
[12:52] <ogra_> just goes into a reboot loop
[12:53] <diwic> ogra_, that's not nice of it
[12:53] <ogra_> nope ... it slowly moves away from being my favorite arch
[12:54] <ogra_> diwic, oh, btw, where did you look for the images ?
[12:54] <ogra_> diwic, flipped ones are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[12:55] <diwic> ogra_, ah, thanks, I think I selected ubuntu-touch-preview
[12:56] <ogra_> ah, thats the jenkins sync for non flipped
[13:13] <plars> ogra_: no, wasn't me, sorry
[13:13] <ogra_> plars, oh, i thought you did that for the desktop n7 image tests
[13:15] <plars> ogra_: ah, no I was just removing the boot partition to force it to reboot into fastboot
[13:15] <plars> that way it could be reflashed on reboot, and booted over fastboot with a new kernel and whatever options we wanted
[13:15] <ogra_> ah, k, i think we better dont do trhat in production :)
[13:17] <plars> yeah :)
[13:18] <ogra_> iirc xnox looked at upstart for this too
[13:19] <xnox> hm?!
[13:21] <xnox> plars: ogra_: "$ sudo reboot -f bootloader" works with phablet images and gets one into fastboot mode.
[13:22] <xnox> ogra_: or were you after something else?
[13:24] <ogra_> xnox, doesnt work with upstart ... you are using the android init there :)
[13:24] <ogra_> xnox, i need it to work in upstart for the flipped container
[13:25] <xnox> ogra_: it does. and reboot binary above is from the upstart package.
[13:25] <xnox> (works with ubuntu-core images as well)
[13:25] <ogra_> oh
[13:25] <ogra_> do we have a bootloader option too ?
[13:26] <xnox> it's just a syscall with optional "string" parameter. you can type anything there. kernel does something with it, like passes to firmware and we shall hope firmware knows what to do.
[13:26] <xnox> ogra_: from trial & error: bootloader - gives fastboot mode; recovery - reboots into recovery.
[13:26] <xnox> I have no idea if others are supported. I got the above two from adbd source code =)
[13:27] <xnox> also no idea how portable this is across devices.....
[13:27] <ogra_> should be good as long as there is an android kernel
[13:27] <ogra_> wow
[13:28] <ogra_> thanks !
[13:29] <cdesai> xnox: recovery should be supported on most devices, and I think Samsung is the only exception for fastboot, most of the others have it
[14:08] <sergiusens> balloons: do you know why these are blocked on a build from May? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds
[14:41] <AskUbuntu> How do I get an UbuntuShape to transition (fade) between different images? | http://askubuntu.com/q/306868
[14:49] <ZDmitry> mhall119, ping
[14:51] <nik90> popey: ping
[14:54] <popey> nik90: hey
[14:54] <nik90> popey: would you be attending today's hangout for Alarms API meeting?
[14:54] <nik90> It was organised by mhall119
[14:55] <nik90> popey: and hi :-)
[14:55] <popey> yes
[14:56] <nik90> popey: do you have the link to the hangout?
[14:58] <popey> pm'ed you
[15:17] <didrocks> sil2100: nerochiaro: oSoMoN: notes-app, camera-app and mediaplayer-app now in saucy! :)
[15:17] <didrocks> ogra_: sergiusens: FYI ^
[15:20] <nerochiaro> didrocks: yay
[15:27]  * ogra_ hugs didrocks 
[15:27] <ogra_> awesome !
[15:28]  * didrocks hugs ogra_ back
[15:29] <oSoMoN> didrocks: yay!
[15:51] <MacSlow> Saviq, splitting up and successful testing of the backend- and shell-part done... the two MRs are up.
[15:52] <Saviq> MacSlow, yup, saw that, nice!
[15:52] <MacSlow> Saviq, also sent and email to you and Jussi
[15:54] <MacSlow> already CI-approved :)
[15:56] <niel> huh?
[16:14] <nik90> ckpringle: ping
[16:15] <seb128> mhr3, kenvandine: better to discuss here than in the middle of didrocks' meeting
[16:15] <kenvandine> mhr3, the account settings UI works now on saucy
[16:15] <didrocks> thanks :)
[16:15] <kenvandine> but the stack isn't built for raring yet
[16:15] <kenvandine> mhr3, for now you have to use the uoa-create script
[16:17] <mhr3> kenvandine, my primary question is whether we'll have the social scope available on the phone, people said that it might not be because uoa isn't there yet in good enough state
[16:17] <kenvandine> uoa works fine
[16:17] <kenvandine> and as soon as the images are switched to saucy they'll have the UI for setting them up
[16:18] <mhr3> kenvandine, well using a script to set it up is probably the "not good enough state" :)
[16:18] <kenvandine> i think we are close to switching the builds to saucy... and everything is there for the settings UI for saucy already
[16:18] <kenvandine> just waiting for that switch
[16:19] <kenvandine> mhr3, hope that helps
[16:19] <mhr3> kenvandine, awesome, yep it does
[16:19] <mhr3> thx
[16:19] <kenvandine> np
[16:20] <mhr3> kenvandine, so the current S desktop scope will work ootb, right?
[16:20] <kenvandine> mhr3, yes
[16:20] <mhr3> good
[16:20] <kenvandine> i'd love to see that on the phone :)
[16:23] <pmcgowan> mhr3, is there a porting guide for the new scopes api? I need to fix a lens
[16:24] <mhr3> pmcgowan, not atm, python scope?
[16:25] <pmcgowan> yes
[16:25] <pmcgowan> mhr3, maybe a model to look at and compare?
[16:25] <pmcgowan> example I mean
[16:26] <mhr3> pmcgowan, any of these should do - https://code.launchpad.net/unity-scopes
[16:26] <mhr3> for example https://code.launchpad.net/~submarine/unity-scope-wikipedia/trunk
[16:26] <pmcgowan> mhr3, ok thanks
[16:27] <mhr3> pmcgowan, we might make it even simpler for python at some point, so if you're not in a hurry to port you can try to wait a bit more :)
[16:28] <pmcgowan> mhr3, sounds compelling!
[16:43] <stgraber> lool: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image is the new location for our various branches. Only got mine moved there so far but expect barry to do the same soonish.
[17:20] <ironhalik> Hello
[17:20] <ironhalik> I'm wondering - is Ubuntu touch supporting pin locked SIM cards on GNex?
[17:21] <ironhalik> I've got this evil SIM card where you can't disable PIN lock
[17:49] <lAdubuntu> will ubuntu touch be available for galaxy s4?
[17:52] <lAdubuntu> anybody here?
[19:23] <AskUbuntu> How to install Ubuntu Touch on unofficial cyanogenmod ports | http://askubuntu.com/q/306976
[19:24] <balloons> nik90, so I'm starting on that common emulator we spoke about yesterday for ubuntu sdk apps and autopilot :-)
[19:25] <balloons> just wanted some feedback on what utility functions might be useful we haven't though tof
[19:28] <rickspencer3> hey all, cellular data is not working for me today :,(
[19:29] <rickspencer3> did something change?
[19:29] <rickspencer3> I get "No suitable device found: no device found for connection <my connection>
[19:31] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, ^ ?
[19:31] <ogra_> do calls work ?
[19:31] <rickspencer3> ogra_, yes
[19:31] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: wifi connection?
[19:31] <ogra_> 3G
[19:31] <cyphermox> ok
[19:31] <cyphermox> does nmcli dev list /ril_0 ?
[19:31] <cyphermox> 'nmcli dev'
[19:33] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, hold on, I need to reboot the phone
[19:33] <rickspencer3> I guess
[19:33] <nik90> balloons: sure, go ahead :)
[19:33] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: you're using today's image?
[19:33] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, yes
[19:33] <cyphermox> ok
[19:33] <rickspencer3> the osk is not displaying the buttons for the terminal app :/
[19:34] <cyphermox> is that the saucy image?
[19:34] <cyphermox> so I didn't get the right image
[19:34] <rickspencer3> cyphermox no
[19:34] <ogra_> that would be worse :)
[19:34] <rickspencer3> I just used phablet-flash
[19:34] <cyphermox> ok
[19:35] <rickspencer3> cyphermox I ran nmcli dev list /ril_0... what am I looking for?
[19:36] <cyphermox> I'm sorry I was unclear
[19:36] <cyphermox> nmcli dev
[19:36] <cyphermox> you should see /ril_0 in the list there
[19:36] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, no, not in there
[19:36] <cyphermox> if not, NM didn't see ofono for some reason... after reboot it might be because something changed in the image we build, and now you don't have the right version of NM there
[19:37] <cyphermox> could you run
[19:37] <cyphermox> dpkg -l network-manager | cat
[19:37] <cyphermox> normally you should see 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu6phablet3 there
[19:37] <cyphermox> IIRC
[19:38]  * rickspencer3 plugs in phone to switch to ubuntu_chroot
[19:38] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, is says 0.9.8.0-0ubuntu6phablet3
[19:47] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: ok
[19:47] <cyphermox> I'll just reflash to the right image to debug that
[19:48] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, note that I hit this when I was moblie
[19:48] <rickspencer3> let me reboot and see if it works before I go out of range of the wireless
[19:49] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: are you on IRC from your phone?
[19:49] <rickspencer3> no
[19:49] <cyphermox> ah ;)
[19:49] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, no
[19:49] <cyphermox> so reboot doesn't help?
[19:49] <rickspencer3> didn't know there was an irc client
[19:49] <rickspencer3> checking
[19:49] <cyphermox> no, there isn't an irc client
[19:49] <cyphermox> I'm thinking I might write a QML frontend for quassel when I don't need to fight fires
[19:50] <rickspencer3> cypher
[19:50] <cyphermox> but for now... I mean 3G was working great so far, I'm not sure why it's broken for you just now
[19:50] <rickspencer3> I did adb reboot
[19:50] <rickspencer3> $adb root
[19:50] <cyphermox> perhaps there was a piece that crashed in ofono or NM
[19:50] <cyphermox> ok
[19:50] <rickspencer3> $adb shell
[19:50] <rickspencer3> $ubuntu_chroot shell
[19:50] <rickspencer3> then got
[19:50] <rickspencer3> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# nmcli dev
[19:50] <rickspencer3> DEVICE     TYPE              STATE
[19:50] <rickspencer3> wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[19:50] <rickspencer3> root@ubuntu-phablet:/#
[19:50] <cyphermox> is ofonod running?
[19:52] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, hmm, ps doesn;t work in ubuntu_chroot shell
[19:52] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, how do I check if it's running?
[19:53] <cyphermox> mount -t proc proc /proc
[19:53] <cyphermox> ps -ef | grep ofono
[19:53] <cyphermox> or sudo start ofonod
[19:53] <cyphermox> actually, that's without the d
[19:54] <rickspencer3> cyphermox,
[19:54] <rickspencer3> root@ubuntu-phablet:/#  ps -ef | grep ofono
[19:54] <rickspencer3> root      1021   261  0 19:49 ?        00:00:00 ofonod --noplugin=atmodem
[19:54] <rickspencer3> phablet   1144   261  0 19:49 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-ofono
[19:54] <rickspencer3> root      1442  1256  0 19:53 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto ofono
[19:54] <JC_> hi
[19:54] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: could you run "sudo restart network-manager" ?
[19:54] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: maybe someone changed the start sequence
[19:54] <JC_> someone here?
[19:55] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, ok, done
[19:55] <cyphermox> JC_: can I help?
[19:55] <rickspencer3> cyphermox,
[19:55] <rickspencer3> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# nmcli dev
[19:55] <rickspencer3> DEVICE     TYPE              STATE
[19:55] <rickspencer3> wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[19:55] <cyphermox> JC_: just ask your question and give me a bit of time to finish helping rickspencer3 :)
[19:55] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: wow
[19:55] <cyphermox> nothing..
[19:55] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: I don't know why it's not working
[19:55] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, well, it should be working now, no?
[19:56] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: I'm reflashing to the raring image now, I would see the same behavior
[19:56] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: totally
[19:56] <cyphermox> it should be working
[19:56] <rickspencer3> cypher, sorry
[19:56] <rickspencer3>  /ril_0     gsm               disconnected
[19:56] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: you still get calls?
[19:56] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, nothign new should have been added to raring afaik
[19:56] <rickspencer3> xchat thought I was making a call
[19:56] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: ok
[19:56] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: so things good to enable data now?
[19:56] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, sorry, xchat thoght I was making a commend
[19:57] <cyphermox> if the device shows up, you should be able to bring up the connection
[19:57] <JC_> i have a samsung galaxy tab, and i try to install ununtu touch but i can't, i've been guide for this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:57] <cyphermox> sure. I get bit by that everytime I past that output too
[19:58] <cyphermox> JC_: did you get the images for the right device from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working.2C_but_not_available_from_cdimage.u.c ?
[19:58] <cyphermox> too bad I gave away my galaxy tab 2 some time ago
[19:58] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, well, it didn't get the same error, but looks like it is going to time out
[19:58] <rickspencer3> maybe I am not getting cell reception here
[19:59] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: if it times out, try again once, if it still times out, there's definitely another issue
[19:59] <rickspencer3> let me go up front and try
[19:59] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: I noticed every once in a while the Online property doesn't get set properly
[20:00] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, so, when I went up front where the signal is strong, it connected immediately
[20:00] <rickspencer3> or at least appeared to, I didn't test the connection
[20:00] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: perhaps I'll upload a new NM to the ppa for raring to enable debug output for NM by default
[20:00] <cyphermox> ok
[20:00] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, why do you think it couldn't see ril when it started?
[20:01] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: was it immediately from boot?
[20:01] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, ?
[20:01] <rickspencer3> not sure what you are asking
[20:01] <cyphermox> was it broken from boot or was it broken after a while?
[20:01] <rickspencer3> I can adb reboot and then see if it sees ril, if that's what you mean
[20:02] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, it was broken from boot, I think
[20:02] <rickspencer3> let me try rebooting
[20:02] <cyphermox> I expect from a clean boot /ril_0 should pretty much always be there
[20:02] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, what is a "clean boot"
[20:02] <rickspencer3> ?
[20:02] <rickspencer3> I usually use adb reboot
[20:02] <cyphermox> well, adb reboot is good
[20:03] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, there is no ril after adb reboot
[20:03] <cyphermox> ugh
[20:03] <rickspencer3> then I restart network manager, and it is there
[20:03] <cyphermox> right
[20:03] <rickspencer3> I just repro'd it
[20:03] <cyphermox> great
[20:04] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, certainly I am not the only one seeing this?
[20:04] <cyphermox> shouldn't be, no
[20:04] <cyphermox> ofono must have changed
[20:04] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, I have 153 and there is no ofono update to get
[20:04] <cyphermox> or... something, anyway, has to have changed. it was working fine for the past two weeks no?
[20:04] <pmcgowan> I wonder about android bits
[20:04] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, ^^
[20:05] <JC_> i think yes
[20:07] <JC_> well in the manual instalaction its seems a litle strange, tell us to do two equal things
[20:08] <cyphermox> JC_: it's not the same image
[20:08] <cyphermox> JC_: for the unofficial images you should really follow the xda-developers forum posts for installing the images
[20:09] <JC_> can u give me a link?
[20:10] <cyphermox> depends on the actual device you have
[20:11] <JC_> samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1
[20:12] <cyphermox> JC_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38456296
[20:12] <cyphermox> notice the entries around the middle: generic part is something you need to flash anyway, using what's at wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[20:13] <cyphermox> and then you'll need to download the device-specific image from that mediafire link
[20:13] <cyphermox> you flash the device-specific part first, and then the generic part
[20:13] <cyphermox> that's the best I can offer
[20:20] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: I got /ril_0
[20:21] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: can I send you diffs for small changes to make to the network-manager and ofono init scripts so we get more logs?
[20:21] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, well ...
[20:21] <rickspencer3> should we rather wait until we have saucy images?
[20:21] <rickspencer3> and debug those if necessary?
[20:22] <cyphermox> maybe, but since you can already reproduce the issue it would be good to still have a trace of it
[20:22] <rickspencer3> I worry about pouring too much into this image if by Thursday or so we are on saucy, which may have a different set of problems
[20:22] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, ok, tell me what to do :)
[20:22] <cyphermox> it already has a different set of problems tbh :/
[20:24] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: you'd need to edit /etc/init/ofono.conf to add -d as a parameter
[20:24] <cyphermox> and to edit /etc/init/network-manager.conf to add
[20:24] <rickspencer3> hmm, I thought I did
[20:24] <cyphermox> --log-level=debug --log-domains=core,mb
[20:24] <cyphermox> perhaps the one for ofono is already done
[20:24] <rickspencer3> maybe it got blown away when I did phablet-flash
[20:27] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, at what line do I add the log-level switch?
[20:27] <cyphermox> to exec NetworkManager
[20:28] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, done .. next?
[20:29] <cyphermox> that's all
[20:29] <cyphermox> adb reboot
[20:29] <cyphermox> then send me /var/log/syslog
[20:29] <cyphermox> it will have the debug logs for the initialization of NM and when it asks ofono about modems
[20:29] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, do you want me to delete the existing syslog first?
[20:30] <rickspencer3> seems like it might end up a pretty long file if I don't
[20:30] <cyphermox> as you wish, a new boot is pretty evident anyway
[20:30] <cyphermox> yeah
[20:33] <rsalveti> rickspencer3: stopped working with the same phone and same sim card?
[20:34] <rickspencer3> rsalveti, yes
[20:34] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5756160/
[20:34] <rsalveti> let me compare the changes, but nothing really changed
[20:34]  * rickspencer3 hopes there are no passwords in there
[20:34] <cyphermox> rsalveti: no, nothing appears to have changed
[20:34] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: there shouldn't be any passwords in NM logs, ever
[20:34] <rsalveti> hm, similar logs as we had when people were roaming
[20:34] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ^
[20:34] <rickspencer3> could it be because I am rebooting the phone somewhere where there is not good cell receptivity?
[20:35] <rsalveti> maybe, there's a similar issue when people are roaming, might be that you got connected to a different network
[20:35] <rsalveti> because of the low signal
[20:37] <sergiusens> rsalveti: rickspencer3 if it's the issue I had, the modem would be unAttached
[20:37] <sergiusens> but if coverage is low, not sure it's the same thing
[20:38] <rsalveti> Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:handle_response() RIL Reply: RIL_REQUEST_SET_NETWORK_SELECTION_AUTOMATIC serial-no: 40 errno: SUCCESS
[20:38] <rsalveti> Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:ril_request_create() req: RIL_REQUEST_VOICE_REGISTRATION_STATE, id: 71, data_len: 0
[20:38] <rsalveti> Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:dispatch() RIL Event: UNSOL_RESPONSE_VOICE_NETWORK_STATE_CHANGED
[20:38] <rsalveti> you keep getting:
[20:38] <rsalveti> Jun 11 20:32:12 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: gril/gril.c:dispatch() RIL Event: UNSOL_RESPONSE_VOICE_NETWORK_STATE_CHANGED
[20:39] <rsalveti> which is usually related with low signal
[20:39] <rickspencer3> rsalveti, so when I go to where there is signal, I can make a call, but NM doesn't know about ril being there yet?
[20:40] <rsalveti> rickspencer3: maybe the signal is not good enough to make data calls, and something we might not be handling internally yet
[20:40] <cyphermox> rsalveti: it's irrelevant to the modem showing up in NM though
[20:41] <rsalveti> and I'm not sure the stack would get fixed automatically once you get good signal again
[20:41] <cyphermox> there's a sleep 8 as a pre-start script for ofono though
[20:41] <rsalveti> cyphermox: right, it's probably internal ofono
[20:41] <rsalveti> that's a different issue
[20:41] <cyphermox> so it will take 8 seconds before ofono starts...
[20:41] <rsalveti> that's because the socket is not there yet
[20:41] <cyphermox> well, that does tend to affect NM though
[20:41] <rsalveti> rickspencer3: so mind rebooting the phone in a place you know you have good signal?
[20:42] <rsalveti> just for a quick test
[20:42] <rsalveti> cyphermox: why?
[20:42] <cyphermox> of course there isn't /ril_0 if nmcli dev is run too early
[20:42] <rsalveti> cyphermox: nm should be getting all the events when the modem is up
[20:42] <sergiusens> cyphermox: but shouldn't affect calls
[20:42] <cyphermox> sergiusens: correct, it wouldn't affect calls
[20:42] <cyphermox> well
[20:42] <rsalveti> the problem right know is that inside ofono we just expect things to work right from boot
[20:42] <cyphermox> you could only do calls from after ofono is started
[20:43] <rsalveti> if you don't have a signal, or if you're roaming, it might need a few changes so it can better track the network state changes
[20:43] <cyphermox> rsalveti: sergiusens: I think you're mixing issues though
[20:44] <cyphermox> once ofono is started, NM should immediately see the modems from ofono, regardless of GPRS, modem, or Sim status
[20:44] <rsalveti> right
[20:44] <cyphermox> what I'm trying to figure out is why /ril_0 wasn't listed in nmcli dev
[20:45] <rsalveti> our issue might be that the signal might be enough for calls, not for data
[20:45] <rsalveti> hm, right
[20:45] <cyphermox> the issue might be that while sleep 8 solves the issue with that socket most of the time, sometimes it's not sufficient
[20:45] <rsalveti> I don't think this is related with the sleep
[20:46] <sergiusens> cyphermox: if the modem is not attached, it doesn't show, right?
[20:46] <rsalveti> as we're already looking for signals
[20:46] <cyphermox> no
[20:46] <cyphermox> it always shows
[20:46] <cyphermox> as long as the modem is detected
[20:46] <rsalveti> Jun 11 20:31:09 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[415]: <info> ofono is now available
[20:46] <rsalveti> right
[20:46] <rsalveti> but might be missing an interface still
[20:46] <cyphermox> as soon as ofono runs through setup_ril, it will show up
[20:47] <cyphermox> the dbus interfaces are irrelevant at this point
[20:47] <cyphermox> actually
[20:47] <rsalveti> right, but nm will only see ril_0 once the expected interfaces are up
[20:47] <cyphermox> well, as soon as the modem interface is up
[20:47] <cyphermox> and/or the ModemAdded signal was triggered
[20:48] <rsalveti> right
[20:49] <cyphermox> that still just points the issue towards a race or something in ofono
[20:49] <rsalveti> I can probably try to reproduce this here as well, if the problem is indeed signal
[20:49] <rsalveti> right, I want to check that, doesn't make any sense
[20:50] <rsalveti> but I noticed last week that sometimes nm wasn't getting the interface signals
[20:50] <rsalveti> but I could see them with dbus-monitor
[20:50] <cyphermox> ah, found an issue
[20:50] <rsalveti> something is broken somewhere :-)
[20:50] <rsalveti> cyphermox: where?
[20:51] <cyphermox> NM doesn't enumerate modems when ofono appears after it
[20:51] <cyphermox> that's really sucky ;)
[20:51] <rsalveti> cyphermox: hm, but what is the side effect of that?
[20:52] <cyphermox> any modem already detected prior to NM finding ofono are not going to be seen by NM
[20:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: sergiusens: cyphermox: qtubuntu is finally published
[20:52] <rsalveti> ogra_: if around, we can already trigger a new build
[20:53] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[20:53] <cyphermox> so if you restart ofono after NM is running, you'll get everything
[20:54] <cyphermox> but if ofono has time to bring up the modems before NM notices the dbus service is up, you'll be missing those
[20:55] <cyphermox> this is why you can then restart NM to get the full list, because in that case the ofono dbus service is already up, so for sure you need to enumerate devices
[20:57] <rsalveti> right, but here nm is always starting before ofono
[20:57] <cyphermox> right
[20:57] <rsalveti> a bug, but not necessarily related with this issue
[20:57] <cyphermox> it's a reasonable thing to explain the current behavior
[20:58] <cyphermox> and it's easy enough to fix that it will improve our understanding of the problem regardless of whether it is the actual cause or not
[20:59] <cyphermox> rsalveti: notice the order in which things happen too
[20:59] <cyphermox> ie. Jun 11 20:31:09
[20:59] <cyphermox> NM notices ofono appeared then
[20:59] <cyphermox> but the modem was actually brought up...
[20:59] <cyphermox> here: Jun 11 20:31:08 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[540]: src/modem.c:emit_modem_added() 0x151c780
[21:01] <cyphermox> rsalveti: can I upload a fix for this to the ppa?
[21:01] <cyphermox> or actually
[21:01] <cyphermox> prior to that we'll test the fix
[21:02] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: I'll get you updated NM packages
[21:03] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, sure
[21:16] <Minste> I can't connect to 3g? Have done the step-by-step guide, but when i try to "nmcli con up id mobildata" i get "Error: Unknown connection: mobildata."
[21:18] <Minste> any tips for getting 3g connection on my galaxy nexus?
[21:21] <pmcgowan> Minste, is that the id of the connection in the system-connections file
[21:22] <pmcgowan> Minste, make sure you see it with nmcli dev
[21:23] <Minste> pmcgowan: nmcli dev gives me DEVICE     TYPE              STATE         /ril_0     gsm               disconnected  wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[21:23] <Minste> also have tried to use ofono scripts and id are mobildata
[21:24] <pmcgowan> sounds right then
[21:25] <Minste> pmcgowan: phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/mobildata [sudo] password for phablet:  [connection] id=mobildata uuid=8b235f54-7148-43d2-9492-dfd96c203321
[21:26] <pmcgowan> rsalveti ^^ any ideas?
[21:26] <pmcgowan> Minste, did you try bringing wifi down first although I dnot think you should need to
[21:27] <rsalveti> cyphermox: mind if I review the debdiff firsT?
[21:27] <rsalveti> cyphermox: just to have some sort of review there
[21:27] <rsalveti> cyphermox: right, ofono is sending the signal, but nm might not be getting that
[21:27] <rsalveti> which was what I had here last week
[21:28] <rsalveti> but couldn't reproduce it anymore after we fixed everything
[21:28] <rsalveti> Minste: to be able to connect you first need a valid modem interface for NM
[21:28] <rsalveti> nmcli dev is not showing the ril interface
[21:28] <rsalveti> kind of the same issue we're debugging here
[21:28] <cyphermox> rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5756308/
[21:29] <rsalveti> Minste: is it the first time you're trying to connect or did it work before?
[21:29] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, it is showing it /ril_0
[21:29] <cyphermox> indeed, it is
[21:29] <Minste> actually I can't disable wifi. my wifi has id:dlink. when i do "nmcli con down id dlink" = non error, but when I do a nmcli dev it still are connected.
[21:29] <rsalveti> oh, right
[21:29] <Minste> this is the first time
[21:29] <cyphermox> Minste: check the permissions on your connection file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[21:29] <cyphermox> it should be 600
[21:29] <rsalveti> so it's probably an issue with the network id
[21:29] <rsalveti> yeah
[21:30] <Minste> how can i check permissions?
[21:30] <rsalveti> cyphermox: +1, just remove ~mtrudel1
[21:30] <cyphermox> ls -l
[21:30] <cyphermox> rsalveti: that was for my ppa
[21:30] <pmcgowan> adb shell ls -l /etc/...
[21:31] <rsalveti> cyphermox: cool, but feel free to push it to saucy and raring
[21:31] <Minste> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ls -l /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/mobildata -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 150 Jun 11 22:55 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/mobildata
[21:31] <rsalveti> yeah, need to change that
[21:31] <rsalveti> sudo chmod 600 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/mobildata
[21:32] <cyphermox> Minste: indeed, sudo chmod 600 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/mobildata ; sudo touch /etc/NetworkManager/system-connectons/mobildata
[21:32] <cyphermox> (I touch it after because I noticed NM didn't see the connection sometimes
[21:33] <Minste> touch: cannot touch ‘/etc/NetworkManager/system-connectons/mobildata’: No such file or directory
[21:33] <Minste> forget it
[21:34] <Minste> my fault
[21:34] <Minste> It works :D Thanks
[22:56] <alo21> I can't receive sms and calls on my galaxy nexus
[22:56] <alo21> why?
[23:00] <alo21> I am in italy
[23:35] <sergiusens> alo21: please log a bug http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/good-logs-for-telephony-and-wifi-bug-reporting.html
[23:40] <E-P_> Hey anyone know is ubuntu touch working on Nexus 7 3g? According website codename grouper is working on nagasig? Getting error while installing ubuntu touch with asser failed message
[23:40] <E-P_> *assert failed message
[23:41] <E-P_> installing .zips with clockworkmod
[23:41] <sergiusens> E-P_: you probably need to remove the assert in the updater-script in the zip
[23:41] <sergiusens> E-P_: but I'm not aware of the hardware differences so I'm not going to advise on how to do that
[23:44] <E-P_> what is the assert doing in the package?
[23:45] <sergiusens> E-P_: checking if the product id is correct for that zip
[23:49] <E-P_> thx sergiusens, im gonna skip installing unbuntun touch it might be that kind of newish version of the tablet is not supported