| snap-l | Good morning | 12:10 |
|---|---|---|
| brousch | No. We're all getting some sickness | 12:12 |
| snap-l | Ugh, that's not good | 12:13 |
| snap-l | JoDee's been fighting the allergy creeping crud for weeks now | 12:14 |
| rick_h__ | yea, sick boy at home today so ugh here as well | 12:42 |
| snap-l | :( | 12:43 |
| snap-l | btw: MUG meeting tonight | 12:43 |
| snap-l | High Performance Computing | 12:43 |
| snap-l | Tried to get work to have a Charity Jeans Day for the EFF. Unfortunately it's hard to convince folks that the EFF is not a political organization | 13:01 |
| snap-l | Also hard to come up with computing / technology charities that don't come off as "that's nice, dear" | 13:02 |
| jrwren_ | good morning | 13:11 |
| snap-l | Offered up Child's Play and Wikimedia | 13:13 |
| rick_h__ | heh | 13:14 |
| snap-l | Hey, if it means I can wear jeans, I'd support seal clubbing | 13:15 |
| snap-l | I'm easy that way. ;) | 13:15 |
| jrwren_ | wtf is a jeans day? | 13:15 |
| jrwren_ | why couldn't you wear jeans? | 13:15 |
| snap-l | Because we're in a cubicle environment | 13:16 |
| snap-l | and dress code is such that we don't normally wear jeans | 13:16 |
| snap-l | It's like going to Catholic School again. :) | 13:16 |
| jrwren_ | dress code, wow. | 13:18 |
| jrwren_ | how soon I forget. | 13:18 |
| snap-l | jrwren_: Yeah, and they don't even have a Foosball table | 13:19 |
| snap-l | It's like Stalag 13. ;) | 13:19 |
| snap-l | But on the plus side, I can listen on my headphones, and I run Ubuntu on my machine | 13:21 |
| jrwren_ | pingpong? | 13:23 |
| snap-l | jrwren_: No, but they have a Keurig | 13:23 |
| snap-l | Industrial strength beastie | 13:23 |
| snap-l | http://www.keurig.com/brewers/b3000se | 13:24 |
| jrwren_ | nice | 13:26 |
| jrwren_ | not all bad then | 13:26 |
| snap-l | Yeah, so if it means I have to put on khakis instead of jeans, I'll manage. | 13:27 |
| snap-l | but I'll do everything in my power to wear jeans as much as possible | 13:27 |
| snap-l | hence the intial onus for charities to give money to in order to wear said jeans | 13:28 |
| jrwren_ | i prefer non jeans to jeans anyway. | 13:38 |
| jrwren_ | and its sweet that you get to raise money for EFF | 13:38 |
| snap-l | Well, unfortunately no | 13:40 |
| snap-l | EFF was too political for them | 13:40 |
| snap-l | so I'm looking for alternatives. | 13:41 |
| jrwren_ | GNU? :) | 13:42 |
| snap-l | THought about it | 13:42 |
| snap-l | but I'd rather the office didn't show up in three-piece suits in protest. ;) | 13:42 |
| snap-l | Actually, GNU might not be a bad one since we use their stuff | 13:43 |
| snap-l | but it's a hard sell next to "feeding homeless orphans" or "stomp out debilitating disease" | 13:44 |
| snap-l | "Free Software" <- "I already get all my software online for free anyway". | 13:45 |
| jrwren_ | snap-l: those are good ones. | 13:50 |
| jrwren_ | snap-l: the bad one that gets all the money is the Komen Foundation. | 13:51 |
| snap-l | Yeah, and I have a hard time supporting the UNited Way as well | 13:53 |
| snap-l | UW is extremely forceful in trying to get money. | 13:53 |
| jrwren_ | they have a well trained sales force :) | 13:54 |
| snap-l | They have programs where employees can be shamed into giving | 13:54 |
| snap-l | I do not condone their practices. | 13:54 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h__: http://blog.futurefoundries.com/2013/04/unittesting-with-localized-patching.html | 14:46 |
| jrwren_ | or hell, pythonistas ^ | 14:46 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren_: cool, yea. I think people dump to DI to quick in languages that allow such flexibilility like python/js | 14:49 |
| jrwren_ | me too | 14:49 |
| rick_h__ | lol! I need some of these! http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,42207&p=70788 | 14:49 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Dude, totally | 14:59 |
| snap-l | along with a brown leather top hat | 15:00 |
| snap-l | http://images.villagehatshop.com/media/images/viewer/194211-1/medium_194211-11.jpg | 15:00 |
| jrwren_ | i just love replacing a modules module instance temporarily with that with block. that is a great hack | 15:01 |
| brousch | Weird. I was just thinking about that kind of thing in today's Safety Committee Meeting | 15:01 |
| brousch | rick_h__'s goggles, that is | 15:01 |
| snap-l | http://www.villagehatshop.com/head-n-home-curio-leather-top-hat-brown.html | 15:02 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: only $10, why not?! | 15:02 |
| brousch | Ah, not rated for industrial | 15:02 |
| greg-g | that just means jrwren_ shouldn't get one | 15:04 |
| greg-g | he wouldn't be able to take em to the club | 15:05 |
| snap-l | Are they at least rated for dark wave? | 15:05 |
| snap-l | cold wave even? | 15:05 |
| * snap-l still doesn't know what the difference is between dark wave, cold wave, and electropop | 15:05 | |
| snap-l | not that I care either | 15:06 |
| * greg-g shrugs | 15:06 | |
| brousch | Crap. Only 2 weeks to move my ass off of Google Reader | 15:13 |
| rick_h__ | yea, removed reader from my phone today, along with the listen podcast app | 15:14 |
| brousch | What are you using? | 15:14 |
| rick_h__ | newsblur and dogcatcher | 15:15 |
| brousch | I live in Reader and Listen | 15:15 |
| rick_h__ | though I keep having this idea of ditching rss for a week and see what happens | 15:15 |
| snap-l | I used BeyondPod for podcatching | 15:15 |
| snap-l | until I moved everything to the Squeezebox | 15:15 |
| rick_h__ | I've paid for pocketcasts and I guess they do sync'ing | 15:15 |
| rick_h__ | dogcatcher has syncing in a beta program I need to get into | 15:15 |
| rick_h__ | would be cool to listen to podcasts across tablet and phone | 15:16 |
| snap-l | Pocketcasts interface really bugged me | 15:17 |
| rick_h__ | yea, why I went to dogcatcher | 15:17 |
| rick_h__ | been using it on the tablet for months, but not moved on the phone | 15:18 |
| snap-l | Neat thing about the Squeezebox: it'll read from an OPML file | 15:19 |
| snap-l | so you can use a text editor to manage your podcasts, and not have to use their shit interface | 15:19 |
| snap-l | I just added the file as one of my favorites | 15:19 |
| snap-l | http://identi.ca/conversation/100086272#notice-101260681 | 15:22 |
| snap-l | I think I'm going to take an identi.ca / pumpio holiday when the changeover happens. | 15:24 |
| brousch | Ug. The newsblur interface is giving me hives | 15:29 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: yea, it's ugh | 15:29 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: spend some time tweaking it and you can tone it down | 15:30 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lp/newsblur.png is how mine looks | 15:31 |
| brousch | It's all so busy | 15:31 |
| brousch | yours is better | 15:32 |
| rick_h__ | yea, go through the options and such | 15:32 |
| rick_h__ | took me a few days to get it to where I didn't want to stab something | 15:32 |
| brousch | I'm in the sandbox | 15:32 |
| rick_h__ | still not a huge fan, but oh well | 15:32 |
| brousch | I wonder if I could live without an Android app | 15:35 |
| snap-l | brousch: One way to find out. Delete your Google Reader app on your phone | 15:40 |
| snap-l | not like you won't be doing that in 2 weeks anyway. | 15:41 |
| brousch | True | 15:44 |
| brousch | I rarely use it on the phone, but often on my tablet | 15:44 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h__: i need advice on those testing fakes. | 16:04 |
| jrwren_ | should I include all the fake things in a single context or use many contexts? | 16:04 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren_: so personally I like using the Mock library to use @patch decorators to take care of the bits I need in the single context. | 16:13 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren_: then I might just add patches I use a lot into $Mymodule.testing as pre-written function helpers | 16:13 |
| jrwren_ | rick_h__: awesome. I don't know what you just said, but it sounds awesome. | 17:05 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren_: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock/patch.html + http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0417/ | 17:06 |
| snap-l | I'm glad I'm not the only one. ;) | 17:06 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren_: with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-jitsu/charmworld/trunk/view/head:/charmworld/tests/test_models.py#L983 as a potential example using it as a context mgr vs a decorator | 17:07 |
| jrwren_ | Foord's page is 503 :( | 17:08 |
| rick_h__ | oh hmm, loaded here | 17:09 |
| jrwren_ | oh, does after a reload, wierd :( | 17:09 |
| rick_h__ | http://mock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 17:09 |
| rick_h__ | http://mock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/patch.html tbe | 17:09 |
| snap-l | Oh wow, that's nice. | 17:09 |
| rick_h__ | yea, the Mock library really helped me get into testing more. | 17:09 |
| rick_h__ | fits my brain a lot better and it's going into the stdlib in 3.3 or 3.4? | 17:10 |
| rick_h__ | 3.3 | 17:10 |
| rick_h__ | so cool to get on board with one in the stdlib | 17:10 |
| jrwren_ | cool. | 17:10 |
| rick_h__ | but anyway, in that patching os example, I'd just have patch'd it local to my test | 17:11 |
| jrwren_ | /usr/local/bin/python3.3: No module named mock | 17:11 |
| jrwren_ | oh, unittest.mock | 17:12 |
| jrwren_ | nevermind | 17:12 |
| brousch | greg-g: Is there an Geodata API for wikipedia ? | 22:19 |
| greg-g | brousch: first DuckDuckGo result: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/31/geodata-a-new-age-of-geotagging-on-wikipedia/ ;) | 22:21 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Coming to MUG tonight? | 22:22 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: maybe | 22:52 |
| snap-l | heh | 22:53 |
| rick_h__ | http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-10/infrastructure/39871911_1_top-500-list-tianhe-1-petaflops | 23:23 |
| rick_h__ | :) | 23:23 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: http://uistage.jujucharms.com/precise/mediawiki-8/ | 23:41 |
| rick_h__ | front page woot http://uistage.jujucharms.com/fullscreen/ | 23:42 |
| snap-l | nice. | 23:42 |
| rick_h__ | 6mo work finally on by default yay | 23:42 |
| snap-l | heh | 23:42 |
| snap-l | TIme for the heavy drinking. :) | 23:42 |
| rick_h__ | heh, missed the jobs section of the meeting :P | 23:43 |
| snap-l | I think you'll manage | 23:43 |
| snap-l | Trust me, working for the auto companies is ... suboptimal | 23:43 |
| rick_h__ | hah | 23:44 |
| snap-l | THink of me as your career Titanic. ;) | 23:44 |
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