[12:10] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:12] <brousch> No. We're all getting some sickness
[12:13] <snap-l> Ugh, that's not good
[12:14] <snap-l> JoDee's been fighting the allergy creeping crud for weeks now
[12:42] <rick_h__> yea, sick boy at home today so ugh here as well
[12:43] <snap-l> :(
[12:43] <snap-l> btw: MUG meeting tonight
[12:43] <snap-l> High Performance Computing
[13:01] <snap-l> Tried to get work to have a Charity Jeans Day for the EFF. Unfortunately it's hard to convince folks that the EFF is not a political organization
[13:02] <snap-l> Also hard to come up with computing / technology charities that don't come off as "that's nice, dear"
[13:11] <jrwren_> good morning
[13:13] <snap-l> Offered up Child's Play and Wikimedia
[13:14] <rick_h__> heh
[13:15] <snap-l> Hey, if it means I can wear jeans, I'd support seal clubbing
[13:15] <snap-l> I'm easy that way. ;)
[13:15] <jrwren_> wtf is a jeans day?
[13:15] <jrwren_> why couldn't you wear jeans?
[13:16] <snap-l> Because we're in a cubicle environment
[13:16] <snap-l> and dress code is such that we don't normally wear jeans
[13:16] <snap-l> It's like going to Catholic School again. :)
[13:18] <jrwren_> dress code, wow.
[13:18] <jrwren_> how soon I forget.
[13:19] <snap-l> jrwren_: Yeah, and they don't even have a Foosball table
[13:19] <snap-l> It's like Stalag 13. ;)
[13:21] <snap-l> But on the plus side, I can listen on my headphones, and I run Ubuntu on my machine
[13:23] <jrwren_> pingpong?
[13:23] <snap-l> jrwren_: No, but they have a Keurig
[13:23] <snap-l> Industrial strength beastie
[13:24] <snap-l> http://www.keurig.com/brewers/b3000se
[13:26] <jrwren_> nice
[13:26] <jrwren_> not all bad then
[13:27] <snap-l> Yeah, so if it means I have to put on khakis instead of jeans, I'll manage.
[13:27] <snap-l> but I'll do everything in my power to wear jeans as much as possible
[13:28] <snap-l> hence the intial onus for charities to give money to in order to wear said jeans
[13:38] <jrwren_> i prefer non jeans to jeans anyway.
[13:38] <jrwren_> and its sweet that you get to raise money for EFF
[13:40] <snap-l> Well, unfortunately no
[13:40] <snap-l> EFF was too political for them
[13:41] <snap-l> so I'm looking for alternatives.
[13:42] <jrwren_> GNU? :)
[13:42] <snap-l> THought about it
[13:42] <snap-l> but I'd rather the office didn't show up in three-piece suits in protest. ;)
[13:43] <snap-l> Actually, GNU might not be a bad one since we use their stuff
[13:44] <snap-l> but it's a hard sell next to "feeding homeless orphans" or "stomp out debilitating disease"
[13:45] <snap-l> "Free Software" <- "I already get all my software online for free anyway".
[13:50] <jrwren_> snap-l: those are good ones.
[13:51] <jrwren_> snap-l: the bad one that gets all the money is the Komen Foundation.
[13:53] <snap-l> Yeah, and I have a hard time supporting the UNited Way as well
[13:53] <snap-l> UW is extremely forceful in trying to get money.
[13:54] <jrwren_> they have a well trained sales force :)
[13:54] <snap-l> They have programs where employees can be shamed into giving
[13:54] <snap-l> I do not condone their practices.
[14:46] <jrwren_> rick_h__: http://blog.futurefoundries.com/2013/04/unittesting-with-localized-patching.html
[14:46] <jrwren_> or hell, pythonistas ^
[14:49] <rick_h__> jrwren_: cool, yea. I think people dump to DI to quick in languages that allow such flexibilility like python/js
[14:49] <jrwren_> me too
[14:49] <rick_h__> lol! I need some of these! http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,42207&p=70788
[14:59] <snap-l> rick_h__: Dude, totally
[15:00] <snap-l> along with a brown leather top hat
[15:00] <snap-l> http://images.villagehatshop.com/media/images/viewer/194211-1/medium_194211-11.jpg
[15:01] <jrwren_> i just love replacing a modules module instance temporarily with that with block. that is a great hack
[15:01] <brousch> Weird. I was just thinking about that kind of thing in today's Safety Committee Meeting
[15:01] <brousch> rick_h__'s goggles, that is
[15:02] <snap-l> http://www.villagehatshop.com/head-n-home-curio-leather-top-hat-brown.html
[15:02] <greg-g> rick_h__: only $10, why not?!
[15:02] <brousch> Ah, not rated for industrial
[15:04] <greg-g> that just means jrwren_ shouldn't get one
[15:05] <greg-g> he wouldn't be able to take em to the club
[15:05] <snap-l> Are they at least rated for dark wave?
[15:05] <snap-l> cold wave even?
[15:05]  * snap-l still doesn't know what the difference is between dark wave, cold wave, and electropop
[15:06] <snap-l> not that I care either
[15:06]  * greg-g shrugs
[15:13] <brousch> Crap. Only 2 weeks to move my ass off of Google Reader
[15:14] <rick_h__> yea, removed reader from my phone today, along with the listen podcast app
[15:14] <brousch> What are you using?
[15:15] <rick_h__> newsblur and dogcatcher
[15:15] <brousch> I live in Reader and Listen
[15:15] <rick_h__> though I keep having this idea of ditching rss for a week and see what happens
[15:15] <snap-l> I used BeyondPod for podcatching
[15:15] <snap-l> until I moved everything to the Squeezebox
[15:15] <rick_h__> I've paid for pocketcasts and I guess they do sync'ing
[15:15] <rick_h__> dogcatcher has syncing in a beta program I need to get into
[15:16] <rick_h__> would be cool to listen to podcasts across tablet and phone
[15:17] <snap-l> Pocketcasts interface really bugged me
[15:17] <rick_h__> yea, why I went to dogcatcher
[15:18] <rick_h__> been using it on the tablet for months, but not moved on the phone
[15:19] <snap-l> Neat thing about the Squeezebox: it'll read from an OPML file
[15:19] <snap-l> so you can use a text editor to manage your podcasts, and not have to use their shit interface
[15:19] <snap-l> I just added the file as one of my favorites
[15:22] <snap-l> http://identi.ca/conversation/100086272#notice-101260681
[15:24] <snap-l> I think I'm going to take an identi.ca / pumpio holiday when the changeover happens.
[15:29] <brousch> Ug. The newsblur interface is giving me hives
[15:29] <rick_h__> brousch: yea, it's ugh
[15:30] <rick_h__> brousch: spend some time tweaking it and you can tone it down
[15:31] <rick_h__> brousch: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lp/newsblur.png is how mine looks
[15:31] <brousch> It's all so busy
[15:32] <brousch> yours is better
[15:32] <rick_h__> yea, go through the options and such
[15:32] <rick_h__> took me a few days to get it to where I didn't want to stab something
[15:32] <brousch> I'm in the sandbox
[15:32] <rick_h__> still not a huge fan, but oh well
[15:35] <brousch> I wonder if I could live without an Android app
[15:40] <snap-l> brousch: One way to find out. Delete your Google Reader app on your phone
[15:41] <snap-l> not like you won't be doing that in 2 weeks anyway.
[15:44] <brousch> True
[15:44] <brousch> I rarely use it on the phone, but often on my tablet
[16:04] <jrwren_> rick_h__: i need advice on those testing fakes.
[16:04] <jrwren_> should I include all the fake things in a single context or use many contexts?
[16:13] <rick_h__> jrwren_: so personally I like using the Mock library to use @patch decorators to take care of the bits I need in the single context.
[16:13] <rick_h__> jrwren_: then I might just add patches I use a lot into $Mymodule.testing as pre-written function helpers
[17:05] <jrwren_> rick_h__: awesome. I don't know what you just said, but it sounds awesome.
[17:06] <rick_h__> jrwren_: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock/patch.html + http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0417/
[17:06] <snap-l> I'm glad I'm not the only one. ;)
[17:07] <rick_h__> jrwren_: with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-jitsu/charmworld/trunk/view/head:/charmworld/tests/test_models.py#L983 as a potential example using it as a context mgr vs a decorator
[17:08] <jrwren_> Foord's page is 503 :(
[17:09] <rick_h__> oh hmm, loaded here
[17:09] <jrwren_> oh, does after a reload, wierd :(
[17:09] <rick_h__> http://mock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[17:09] <rick_h__> http://mock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/patch.html tbe
[17:09] <snap-l> Oh wow, that's nice.
[17:09] <rick_h__> yea, the Mock library really helped me get into testing more.
[17:10] <rick_h__> fits my brain a lot better and it's going into the stdlib in 3.3 or 3.4?
[17:10] <rick_h__> 3.3
[17:10] <rick_h__> so cool to get on board with one in the stdlib
[17:10] <jrwren_> cool.
[17:11] <rick_h__> but anyway, in that patching os example, I'd just have patch'd it local to my test
[17:11] <jrwren_> /usr/local/bin/python3.3: No module named mock
[17:12] <jrwren_> oh, unittest.mock
[17:12] <jrwren_> nevermind
[22:19] <brousch> greg-g: Is there an Geodata API for wikipedia ?
[22:21] <greg-g> brousch: first DuckDuckGo result: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/31/geodata-a-new-age-of-geotagging-on-wikipedia/ ;)
[22:22] <snap-l> rick_h__: Coming to MUG tonight?
[22:52] <rick_h__> snap-l: maybe
[22:53] <snap-l> heh
[23:23] <rick_h__> http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-10/infrastructure/39871911_1_top-500-list-tianhe-1-petaflops
[23:23] <rick_h__> :)
[23:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: http://uistage.jujucharms.com/precise/mediawiki-8/
[23:42] <rick_h__> front page woot http://uistage.jujucharms.com/fullscreen/
[23:42] <snap-l> nice.
[23:42] <rick_h__> 6mo work finally on by default yay
[23:42] <snap-l> heh
[23:42] <snap-l> TIme for the heavy drinking. :)
[23:43] <rick_h__> heh, missed the jobs section of the meeting :P
[23:43] <snap-l> I think you'll manage
[23:43] <snap-l> Trust me, working for the auto companies is ... suboptimal
[23:44] <rick_h__> hah
[23:44] <snap-l> THink of me as your career Titanic. ;)