[12:10] Good morning [12:12] No. We're all getting some sickness [12:13] Ugh, that's not good [12:14] JoDee's been fighting the allergy creeping crud for weeks now [12:42] yea, sick boy at home today so ugh here as well [12:43] :( [12:43] btw: MUG meeting tonight [12:43] High Performance Computing [13:01] Tried to get work to have a Charity Jeans Day for the EFF. Unfortunately it's hard to convince folks that the EFF is not a political organization [13:02] Also hard to come up with computing / technology charities that don't come off as "that's nice, dear" [13:11] good morning [13:13] Offered up Child's Play and Wikimedia [13:14] heh [13:15] Hey, if it means I can wear jeans, I'd support seal clubbing [13:15] I'm easy that way. ;) [13:15] wtf is a jeans day? [13:15] why couldn't you wear jeans? [13:16] Because we're in a cubicle environment [13:16] and dress code is such that we don't normally wear jeans [13:16] It's like going to Catholic School again. :) [13:18] dress code, wow. [13:18] how soon I forget. [13:19] jrwren_: Yeah, and they don't even have a Foosball table [13:19] It's like Stalag 13. ;) [13:21] But on the plus side, I can listen on my headphones, and I run Ubuntu on my machine [13:23] pingpong? [13:23] jrwren_: No, but they have a Keurig [13:23] Industrial strength beastie [13:24] http://www.keurig.com/brewers/b3000se [13:26] nice [13:26] not all bad then [13:27] Yeah, so if it means I have to put on khakis instead of jeans, I'll manage. [13:27] but I'll do everything in my power to wear jeans as much as possible [13:28] hence the intial onus for charities to give money to in order to wear said jeans [13:38] i prefer non jeans to jeans anyway. [13:38] and its sweet that you get to raise money for EFF [13:40] Well, unfortunately no [13:40] EFF was too political for them [13:41] so I'm looking for alternatives. [13:42] GNU? :) [13:42] THought about it [13:42] but I'd rather the office didn't show up in three-piece suits in protest. ;) [13:43] Actually, GNU might not be a bad one since we use their stuff [13:44] but it's a hard sell next to "feeding homeless orphans" or "stomp out debilitating disease" [13:45] "Free Software" <- "I already get all my software online for free anyway". [13:50] snap-l: those are good ones. [13:51] snap-l: the bad one that gets all the money is the Komen Foundation. [13:53] Yeah, and I have a hard time supporting the UNited Way as well [13:53] UW is extremely forceful in trying to get money. [13:54] they have a well trained sales force :) [13:54] They have programs where employees can be shamed into giving [13:54] I do not condone their practices. [14:46] rick_h__: http://blog.futurefoundries.com/2013/04/unittesting-with-localized-patching.html [14:46] or hell, pythonistas ^ [14:49] jrwren_: cool, yea. I think people dump to DI to quick in languages that allow such flexibilility like python/js [14:49] me too [14:49] lol! I need some of these! http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,42207&p=70788 [14:59] rick_h__: Dude, totally [15:00] along with a brown leather top hat [15:00] http://images.villagehatshop.com/media/images/viewer/194211-1/medium_194211-11.jpg [15:01] i just love replacing a modules module instance temporarily with that with block. that is a great hack [15:01] Weird. I was just thinking about that kind of thing in today's Safety Committee Meeting [15:01] rick_h__'s goggles, that is [15:02] http://www.villagehatshop.com/head-n-home-curio-leather-top-hat-brown.html [15:02] rick_h__: only $10, why not?! [15:02] Ah, not rated for industrial [15:04] that just means jrwren_ shouldn't get one [15:05] he wouldn't be able to take em to the club [15:05] Are they at least rated for dark wave? [15:05] cold wave even? [15:05] * snap-l still doesn't know what the difference is between dark wave, cold wave, and electropop [15:06] not that I care either [15:06] * greg-g shrugs [15:13] Crap. Only 2 weeks to move my ass off of Google Reader [15:14] yea, removed reader from my phone today, along with the listen podcast app [15:14] What are you using? [15:15] newsblur and dogcatcher [15:15] I live in Reader and Listen [15:15] though I keep having this idea of ditching rss for a week and see what happens [15:15] I used BeyondPod for podcatching [15:15] until I moved everything to the Squeezebox [15:15] I've paid for pocketcasts and I guess they do sync'ing [15:15] dogcatcher has syncing in a beta program I need to get into [15:16] would be cool to listen to podcasts across tablet and phone [15:17] Pocketcasts interface really bugged me [15:17] yea, why I went to dogcatcher [15:18] been using it on the tablet for months, but not moved on the phone [15:19] Neat thing about the Squeezebox: it'll read from an OPML file [15:19] so you can use a text editor to manage your podcasts, and not have to use their shit interface [15:19] I just added the file as one of my favorites [15:22] http://identi.ca/conversation/100086272#notice-101260681 [15:24] I think I'm going to take an identi.ca / pumpio holiday when the changeover happens. [15:29] Ug. The newsblur interface is giving me hives [15:29] brousch: yea, it's ugh [15:30] brousch: spend some time tweaking it and you can tone it down [15:31] brousch: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lp/newsblur.png is how mine looks [15:31] It's all so busy [15:32] yours is better [15:32] yea, go through the options and such [15:32] took me a few days to get it to where I didn't want to stab something [15:32] I'm in the sandbox [15:32] still not a huge fan, but oh well [15:35] I wonder if I could live without an Android app [15:40] brousch: One way to find out. Delete your Google Reader app on your phone [15:41] not like you won't be doing that in 2 weeks anyway. [15:44] True [15:44] I rarely use it on the phone, but often on my tablet [16:04] rick_h__: i need advice on those testing fakes. [16:04] should I include all the fake things in a single context or use many contexts? [16:13] jrwren_: so personally I like using the Mock library to use @patch decorators to take care of the bits I need in the single context. [16:13] jrwren_: then I might just add patches I use a lot into $Mymodule.testing as pre-written function helpers [17:05] rick_h__: awesome. I don't know what you just said, but it sounds awesome. [17:06] jrwren_: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock/patch.html + http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0417/ [17:06] I'm glad I'm not the only one. ;) [17:07] jrwren_: with http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-jitsu/charmworld/trunk/view/head:/charmworld/tests/test_models.py#L983 as a potential example using it as a context mgr vs a decorator [17:08] Foord's page is 503 :( [17:09] oh hmm, loaded here [17:09] oh, does after a reload, wierd :( [17:09] http://mock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ [17:09] http://mock.readthedocs.org/en/latest/patch.html tbe [17:09] Oh wow, that's nice. [17:09] yea, the Mock library really helped me get into testing more. [17:10] fits my brain a lot better and it's going into the stdlib in 3.3 or 3.4? [17:10] 3.3 [17:10] so cool to get on board with one in the stdlib [17:10] cool. [17:11] but anyway, in that patching os example, I'd just have patch'd it local to my test [17:11] /usr/local/bin/python3.3: No module named mock [17:12] oh, unittest.mock [17:12] nevermind [22:19] greg-g: Is there an Geodata API for wikipedia ? [22:21] brousch: first DuckDuckGo result: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/31/geodata-a-new-age-of-geotagging-on-wikipedia/ ;) [22:22] rick_h__: Coming to MUG tonight? [22:52] snap-l: maybe [22:53] heh [23:23] http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-10/infrastructure/39871911_1_top-500-list-tianhe-1-petaflops [23:23] :) [23:41] greg-g: http://uistage.jujucharms.com/precise/mediawiki-8/ [23:42] front page woot http://uistage.jujucharms.com/fullscreen/ [23:42] nice. [23:42] 6mo work finally on by default yay [23:42] heh [23:42] TIme for the heavy drinking. :) [23:43] heh, missed the jobs section of the meeting :P [23:43] I think you'll manage [23:43] Trust me, working for the auto companies is ... suboptimal [23:44] hah [23:44] THink of me as your career Titanic. ;)