[15:13] slangasek: how about modifying init-functions that upon sourcing check with upstart if there is a matching job name & then execute if init_is_upstart case and provide correct exit codes for each action? [15:15] or adding a helper function exit_if_init_is_upstart [17:11] xnox: well, I'm not really in favor of that, but I also don't oppose it strongly. Propose it to the lsb package maintainers? [17:13] slangasek: also i really, really do not like sourcing /etc/default/* and how that is messing up with simple jobs. [17:15] xnox: I maintain that sourcing /etc/default is the lesser evil, compared with dropping the admin's service customizations when switching to upstart [17:22] ok. adding two extra lines.