| ahoneybun__ | hello all | 00:59 |
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| ahoneybun | hello | 01:33 |
| ahoneybun | hello all | 02:51 |
| ahoneybun | hey palasso | 03:17 |
| palasso | hey ahoneybun ;) | 05:11 |
| soee | god morning | 06:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ScottK is LGPL compatible with GPL v2? | 09:35 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: which LGPL, there's three of them. compatible to do what? | 09:43 |
| Tm_T | ScottK is LGPL? | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | saidinesh5: ^^ | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 09:44 |
| * saidinesh5 checks | 09:44 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: would it be possible for you to evaluate https://github.com/vovoid/vsxu for inclusion in the ubuntu archive? | 09:44 |
| shadeslayer | from a source/license PoV | 09:44 |
| * Riddell clones | 09:45 | |
| Riddell | Visualizations, project files and art provided with this release: | 10:00 |
| Riddell | You may use them as you see fit, but we reserve the right to decide wether | 10:00 |
| Riddell | or not you can remix them. | 10:01 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so the visualisation files can't be included | 10:01 |
| Riddell | All design and graphic content/skins etc (c) Vovoid Media Technologies AB | 10:01 |
| Riddell | are provided to you as-is, not for remixing. | 10:01 |
| Riddell | nor can they | 10:01 |
| shadeslayer | saidinesh5: ^^ | 10:01 |
| Riddell | Example assets: Raya (c) Katie De Sousa. | 10:01 |
| Riddell | no licence on that | 10:01 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 10:02 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer, saidinesh5: the cpp code is a mix of GPL 2, GPL 2+, LGPL 2+ and LGPL 3+. GPL 2 isn't compatible with LGPL 3+ | 10:10 |
| saidinesh5 | Oh | 10:10 |
| saidinesh5 | and LGPL2.1 ? | 10:10 |
| Riddell | yes, that's the same as LGPL 2+ | 10:10 |
| saidinesh5 | no i mean is GPLv2 compatible with LGPL2.1 ? | 10:11 |
| Riddell | yes that's fine | 10:11 |
| Riddell | for both linking and distributing together | 10:11 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 10:11 |
| saidinesh5 | Riddell: which bits are using LGPL3+ ? | 10:11 |
| Riddell | ./tools/socket_library/trunk/src/ | 10:12 |
| Riddell | says find . -name *cpp | xargs licensecheck | grep LGPL | 10:12 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahh | 10:13 |
| Riddell | so maybe those bits don't get linked in, I'm not sure | 10:14 |
| saidinesh5 | yep those arent linked afaik | 10:15 |
| apol | maybe kdevelop should depend on kate-data? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318188 | 10:48 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 318188 in general "Adding snippet repository fails with clean install: missing file" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] | 10:48 |
| Riddell | apol: yeah I'll add that | 10:50 |
| Riddell | apol: probably also worth that being noted in the sources, in a README (it points at http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=HEAD/requirements.html but that doesn't exist) or better yet in cmake config output | 10:51 |
| apol | ok | 10:52 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: a person has e-mailed me asking for plasma active 4 packages pointing at http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/active/2013-May/006136.html | 10:53 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I'm not sure what martin's e-mail there is saying though, I don't think there's such a thing as PA 4 yet | 10:53 |
| Riddell | ah it's on k-d as well | 10:55 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I am to schedule a packaging sprint for PA so we can get the packages in shape | 10:56 |
| Quintasan | I'll do that after the damn exams | 10:57 |
| Riddell | very cool | 10:57 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: as for KTp, I'm putting uploading onhold till I get it into Debian since I believe I just just became the maintainer of it | 10:58 |
| Quintasan | Might as well as attempt to get DM | 10:58 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: mm that sounds like something that could take time | 11:03 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Getting it to Debian - no. Getting DM - more likely | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: When I get it to Debian I'll just ask you to sync it, or ScottK, whoever has rights to perform this magic | 11:16 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: mm well be careful it doesn't end up taking weeks when people could be using it and testing it | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Should uploading that take more than 3 days from now on I'll just throw in the whole stack into our repos | 11:20 |
| Riddell | sounds a good plan | 11:22 |
| Riddell | hi tariq_ | 11:29 |
| Quintasan | lol | 11:30 |
| Quintasan | It's almost like apachelogger's reaction to python | 11:30 |
| tariq_ | Hi RIddell! | 11:30 |
| tariq_ | still getting to grips with this IRC! | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 12:48 |
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| murthy | hello everyone | 15:12 |
| ahoneybun | murthy: hello | 15:14 |
| Riddell | hi murthy | 15:14 |
| * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/12/nice-e-mail | 15:16 | |
| murthy | we here some in the #kubuntu channel | 15:17 |
| murthy | *hear | 15:17 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: always getting great emails :) | 15:18 |
| murthy | I have some doubts about updating a changelog for a merge | 15:21 |
| Riddell | murthy: what do you doubt? | 15:22 |
| murthy | a package has only 1 conflicting file which is debian/control, grab-merge script generates the source from A(debian), B(ubuntu) and produces C which contains the conflicting file with the two difference with markings. Now the debian/control segments that are in conflict in A(debian) is not right and is totally ignored by choosing all the details from B(ubuntu). What will be my changelog entry and is C ubuntu or debian. I will paste the debian/control | 15:30 |
| murthy | given by grab-merge and the merged one now | 15:30 |
| murthy | Riddell: ^ | 15:31 |
| * Riddell waits for paste | 15:32 | |
| murthy | http://paste.kde.org/771608/ | 15:32 |
| murthy | ^the file in conflict | 15:32 |
| murthy | http://paste.kde.org/771614/ | 15:33 |
| murthy | ^ the new one | 15:33 |
| Riddell | murthy: please use diff -u and paste that again | 15:33 |
| murthy | Riddell: between the two? | 15:34 |
| Riddell | yes | 15:34 |
| murthy | ok | 15:34 |
| Riddell | http://paste.kde.org/771608/ does not use diff -u | 15:34 |
| murthy | Riddell: I couldn't get you | 15:37 |
| murthy | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/771608/ is generated by grab-merge script | 15:38 |
| murthy | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/771626/ | 15:38 |
| murthy | thats the one with diff -u of both the control files | 15:38 |
| Riddell | hmm, I'm not sure it is :) | 15:40 |
| Riddell | anyway, build-deps looks like no changes needed so keep debian | 15:40 |
| Riddell | X-Python-Version need to work out if that's needed (by dh_python or something like that) | 15:40 |
| Riddell | Breaks: python-albatross-common probably still needed, check changelog | 15:41 |
| Riddell | Breaks: python-albatross likewise | 15:41 |
| Riddell | changes to Maintainer: are needed if there's any ubuntu changes | 15:41 |
| Riddell | voila | 15:41 |
| Riddell | murthy: how did you get on with kdiff3 ? | 15:41 |
| murthy | Riddell: why what? | 15:42 |
| Riddell | murthy: what why what? | 15:43 |
| murthy | Riddell: What about kdiff3? | 15:44 |
| murthy | Riddell: have you noticed python in build-depends ? | 15:44 |
| Riddell | murthy: did you merge it? | 15:45 |
| murthy | Riddell: you mean the file or the status of the merge request? | 15:46 |
| Riddell | murthy: the package of kdiff3 needs merged https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | 15:46 |
| murthy | oh :D | 15:46 |
| murthy | I thought you were talking about the kdiff app | 15:47 |
| murthy | I am doing albatross now | 15:47 |
| murthy | #1189942 | 15:47 |
| murthy | LP : #1189942 | 15:48 |
| murthy | whats the syntax? | 15:48 |
| Riddell | bug 1189942 | 15:48 |
| ubottu | bug 1189942 in albatross (Ubuntu) "Please merge albatross 1.36-5.5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189942 | 15:48 |
| murthy | Riddell: this "python (>= 2.6.6-3~)" is added to the ubuntu's build-depends have you noticed? | 15:50 |
| murthy | Riddell: so the resulting merge is a debian one? | 15:50 |
| Riddell | murthy: it's not needed as far as I can see, python-all would being it in | 15:50 |
| Riddell | murthy: it's not needed as far as I can see, python-all would bring it in | 15:50 |
| murthy | Riddell: ok, in case if it is need what should i put in the changelog? | 15:51 |
| Riddell | murthy: merge from debian, remaining changes: add python build-dep (needed for reason foo) | 15:52 |
| murthy | Riddell: so the target is debian | 15:52 |
| murthy | oops | 15:53 |
| Riddell | murthy: yes, we want to have as few changes from debian as possible | 15:53 |
| Riddell | don't be afraid of adding them but also don't add them for no reason, it just adds more work | 15:53 |
| Riddell | ok I'm out for the evening, good luck | 15:53 |
| murthy | see you later | 15:55 |
| murthy | yofel: are you there? | 15:57 |
| yofel | yes? | 15:57 |
| murthy | yofel: can you help me with a changlog for a merge | 15:57 |
| murthy | yofel: its a very simple one | 15:58 |
| yofel | sure | 15:58 |
| murthy | thank you, i will paste the files | 15:58 |
| murthy | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/771608/ | 15:58 |
| murthy | ^ thats the debian/control file in conflict given by grab-merge | 15:59 |
| yofel | ok | 16:00 |
| murthy | yofel: assume all the ubuntu stuff is correct, now update the changelog which i will paste now | 16:00 |
| murthy | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/771662/ | 16:01 |
| murthy | the last entry is mine | 16:01 |
| murthy | correct that please | 16:01 |
| yofel | murthy: well, Continuing the line, you add "Remaining changes:" and then list every change that you had to add to the debian package | 16:03 |
| murthy | yofel: can you do that and show me? | 16:04 |
| yofel | you don't need to document the maintainer update though | 16:04 |
| murthy | yofel: just this one changelog | 16:05 |
| yofel | murthy: try it yourself and I'll tell you what's wrong ;) take http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/view/head:/debian/changelog as example | 16:08 |
| murthy | yofel: ok i will try | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: can you send me a test mail at rohangarg AT kubuntu dot org ? | 16:16 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: done | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | that subject ... | 16:23 |
| yofel | I couldn't resist :P | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 16:24 |
| shadeslayer | the error mail usually has the same subject ;) | 16:24 |
| murthy | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/771692/ | 16:27 |
| murthy | the updated changelog | 16:27 |
| yofel | murthy: looking | 16:47 |
| yofel | murthy: do we really still need that build-dep on python? | 16:48 |
| yofel | rest looks fine, except that I don't know enough about python packaging to decide what X-Python-Version should be set to | 16:48 |
| murthy | yofel: no it has to be checked, but for now, i am concerned about the changelog | 16:48 |
| murthy | yofel: so expect the python stuff everything ok(in case of the changelog wordings)? | 16:49 |
| yofel | murthy: change "Update" to "Add" or "Set" as that's not really an update of anything but a new thing | 16:49 |
| murthy | ok | 16:50 |
| yofel | other than that, the changelog is fine for the changes in the control file | 16:50 |
| murthy | ok thank you, i will check for the phthon build-dep and update the changelog accordingly | 16:51 |
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| === palasso_ is now known as palasso | ||
| vHanda | Riddell: Could you please verify this package? https://sourceforge.net/projects/oscaf/files/shared-desktop-ontologies/0.11.0/ | 18:49 |
| vHanda | shadeslayer: ^ | 18:49 |
| yofel | vHanda: what do you need verified? | 18:51 |
| vHanda | just that the package is fine | 18:51 |
| vHanda | and that I haven't done anything stupid | 18:51 |
| vHanda | s/package/tarball | 18:51 |
| yofel | hm, looks fine on first glance | 18:53 |
| vHanda | cool, thanks | 18:54 |
| vHanda | It looked fine to me as well, but I wanted to be sure before I made the release announcement | 18:54 |
| ahoneybun | hello valorie | 19:07 |
| valorie | greets | 21:07 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: hello | 21:09 |
| valorie | hello, ahoneybun | 21:11 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: littlegirl has been really working hard | 21:11 |
| valorie | I saw what you said the first time; I always read all the scrollback | 21:11 |
| valorie | I saw that | 21:11 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 21:11 |
| valorie | I sort of stepped back because it seemed she was doing her work off the wiki for some reason | 21:14 |
| valorie | so many pastebins! | 21:14 |
| valorie | once she's slowed down, I'll look | 21:14 |
| ahoneybun | to see the work before saving | 21:14 |
| valorie | it would be nice to get all our pages with a common format | 21:14 |
| valorie | I was working on that as I could | 21:14 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 21:14 |
| valorie | Riddell: lovely blog! | 21:18 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: did you see the rewrite of the managing repos | 21:19 |
| ahoneybun | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic/ManagingRepositories | 21:20 |
| valorie | wth, why do we have the old way to add repositories, instead of the apt-add-repo way? | 21:22 |
| valorie | which is much superior | 21:22 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 21:22 |
| valorie | not a good idea at all, IMO | 21:22 |
| valorie | perhaps a link to the old way, for people running ancient versions | 21:22 |
| valorie | but seriously, those have long been EOL | 21:23 |
| ahoneybun | littlegirl is running 10.04 | 21:23 |
| ahoneybun | how would you remove them then? | 21:23 |
| valorie | oh, I dunno | 21:24 |
| valorie | sec | 21:24 |
| valorie | grrr, I had a good explanation of that, now it's gone | 21:25 |
| valorie | :( | 21:25 |
| valorie | oh, well | 21:25 |
| valorie | short answer: sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> | 21:27 |
| ahoneybun | does that work without additional software? | 21:27 |
| valorie | what? | 21:27 |
| valorie | I'm not sure what you mean | 21:27 |
| valorie | ppa-purge is something we should document anyway, for those who have added problematic PPAs | 21:28 |
| valorie | anyway, I see no reason to make that page enormous by documenting an outdated method of adding and removing repos | 21:29 |
| valorie | but that's just my opinion | 21:29 |
| ahoneybun | true | 21:30 |
| ahoneybun | I'm ok with making it more uptodate | 21:30 |
| ahoneybun | up to date | 21:30 |
| valorie | I'm just wondering why good work was removed, and replaced with old stuff | 21:31 |
| ahoneybun | well I thought we needed work done on how to deal with ppa;s | 21:32 |
| valorie | sure | 21:35 |
| valorie | I was wrong though, there is a ppa-purge package | 21:35 |
| valorie | http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 21:35 |
| * valorie goes to find official documentation of this | 21:35 | |
| valorie | so otherwise it can be done thus: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:someppa/ppa | 21:37 |
| yofel | there's 2 definitions of "remove" mixed here | 21:37 |
| valorie | probably a better idea to not introduce a package | 21:37 |
| valorie | true | 21:37 |
| yofel | add-apt-repository --remove -> disables the source entry but keeps the packages | 21:37 |
| yofel | ppa-purge -> removes the PPA and downgrades what it can | 21:38 |
| valorie | and there are cases for doing both | 21:38 |
| valorie | or either | 21:38 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: do what you think is best and I will work on it later | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | gtg | 21:39 |
| valorie | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ppa-purge | 21:39 |
| valorie | see you later | 21:39 |
| ahoneybun | yea \ | 21:39 |
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