[00:00] sarnold, so the gateway is supose to be the same on all machines [00:00] EDocToor, Is your gateway your router to the internet? (ADSL?) [00:00] Slyboots: 11 days seems like a looong time to just read a few terabytes and compute some parity bits. something sure seems off there. (Note that I've not actually tried this myself, but .. it ought to only take a few hours to read a terabyte of data, right?) [00:01] sarnold, Well.. raid rebuilds take a while but that does seem pretty slow. something else is a bit borked.. I was going to go with ZFS but thats a bitch to get going [00:01] yes, I have a DSL router that three computer are attached to... [00:01] And its IP address is? [00:04] Slyboots, I don't know how to figure that out [00:04] EDocToor: what address do you type into the address bar of your browser to configure your router? [00:04] on windows the IPv$ is 192.168.1.103 [00:04] IPv4 [00:04] Oh dear. Okay does your router device have a webpage you go to configure it? [00:04] http://192.168.1.1/config.asp [00:05] Right okay [00:05] it is a dd-wrt [00:05] Change your broadcast to 192.168.1.255, your network to 192.168.1.0 [00:05] Gateway is 192.168.1.1 [00:05] for interface ETH0 [00:06] OMG.. I am crossing my fingers [00:06] and change your address to 192.168.1.121 [00:06] brb [00:06] or 192.168.1.131. either way, make sure the .1. is in there. :) [00:06] sarnold, I honestly think he might be better off setting it to DHCP [00:06] Slyboots: there are definite advantages there.. :) [00:07] He'll still have to setup nameservers and resolv.conf manually [00:07] But I suppose everyone has to learn somehow [00:07] Slyboots: but getting this right is very useful to understanding IPv4 networking, so it's a useful exercise [00:07] exactly [00:08] thanks... and static is required .. I wish.. all this was in the background too... [00:08] but it is not [00:08] I spent absolute _hours_ typing ifconfig and route commands until getting the exact right commands to add to my startup files, back in the days (and distros) before setting them up was just one configuration file.... [00:08] but those hours were how I learned the basics well enough to debug a lot of network problems. [00:08] EDocToor, Once you've done that. Try "ping 8.8.8.8" and see if you get a result. [00:09] I enjoy networking, do it "professionally" for what thats worth heh [00:09] (very little these days it seems) [00:13] Slyboots, the ping 8.8.8.8 goes on and I ctrl z to stop it.. is that normal? [00:13] and thanks. [00:13] yes. [00:13] try ping google.com next :P [00:13] EDocToor: use ^C instead [00:13] I am not afraid of reading a URL... but I don't know what URL applies to what I am doing [00:14] EDocToor: ^Z suspends the command instead of killing it. [00:14] how to kill command [00:14] how do I kill a command in process [00:14] ctrl c ? [00:15] Thanks Will...bbbbbbbuddy [00:15] ping google.com also goes forever [00:16] Whats it actually saying :P [00:17] (as long as its not saying something like result timed out, or unknown host) [00:17] works exactly like ms dos ping but never stops [00:17] or no route to host... [00:17] it will never stop [00:17] looks good [00:17] TTL expired in transit [00:17] it runs until you kill it with ^C :) [00:17] Thats always a scary one :P [00:17] o_O [00:17] Slyboots: oh, I thought EDocToor said that. hehe. [00:17] haha [00:17] Slyboots: yeah, if TTL expires on you, you've got work ahead of you :) hehehe [00:17] EDocToor, sounds like your good then. [00:17] I'm just glad it wasn't EDocToor, fixing routing loops over irc souds unfun. [00:17] sarnold, we sometimes get that if a VPN link goes down, its normally a "Oh F*$%!" [00:18] Why.. can I just give you my IP for the server... and you do it.. LOL [00:18] ha ha [00:18] Anyway, Im off [00:18] later [00:18] I am going to test with apt-get upgrade [00:19] Tanks Slyboots [00:19] finally! webim panel web server created :D [00:20] webmin* [00:20] Awesome Will [00:20] http://pastebin.com/Jw8GB404 [00:21] and Slyboots and sarnold helped me with my /etc/network/interfaces configuration successfully [00:21] nice] [00:21] what you using your server for? [00:22] I guess I'll be here for a week as they mentioned that I also have to He'll still have to setup nameservers and resolv.conf manually [00:22] EDocToor: if you can ping www.google.com, you're probably all good to go. [00:23] the apt-get upgrade IS WORKING.. thank you [00:26] Will ... I want to try an opensource package called "ofbiz" for a online store that also runs a POS point of sale cash register in a real store.. and therefore my very first time running/ruining a server [00:27] I am disabled ... so I have lots of time to learn [00:27] interesting, i only ask as i am curious what to do with my new server now [00:28] just wanted to make sure i could do it :) [00:29] I am not so sure that I can... but... I am giving it a try [00:29] do a web server first.. I guess [00:38] shorewall the going firewall for protecting my previous new made server via virtualbox? :) [00:38] Will: ufw is probably easier to learn. [00:40] they not straight forward then? [00:42] Will: ufw is simpler; shorewall is intended for configuring just about any firewall setup, ufw is intended to make common configurations very easy. check out https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/firewall.html and see if it meets your needs.. [00:44] I bookmarked that... as I am sure I am going to want to read it after I edit my hosts file [00:45] and I have learned to # cp /etc/everyfile /etc/everyfile.org before I make a change... the hard way.. hee hee [00:46] lol [00:49] how do I test my /etc/hosts file is correct? I put in it 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ...... then 192.168.1.131 edoc.icyourrc.com edoc... I hope that sounds close [00:49] you mean view it? [00:50] I already edited it... with the above information [00:50] the FQDN gave me a headache [00:52] Will you taught me Ctrl+C kills and Ctrl+Z suspends [00:53] sarnold: thanks, had a read through and i don't think im going to bother with a firewall at all for the time being, i don't want to start restricting ports manually and such until i know more about what i need to protect i guess, for time being i will just test/play around with the concept and idea of what i actually want this server to do [00:53] EDocToor, glad i could help :) [00:55] Will... Since there is not actual data to protect.. on my new box.. I am thinking that I will delay the firewall for now.. as well [00:55] I did bookmark/favorite it for later... === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [01:00] Is there a reason why nano isn't working on via a putty ssh? vim works but to be fair i did install this, do i need to install nano or is that pre installed? [01:00] i prefer to edit files with nano thats all ^^ [01:00] try apt-get install nano [01:01] and see .. and tell me what you learned [01:01] as I am discovering all this too [01:01] lovely :) [01:01] its downloaded and installed the nano editor [01:01] now i can do nano filename [01:01] awesome [01:02] easier to use than vim, although i can use both, vim editor just makes me think too much [01:02] Will my Channel if you want to add is #diycnc [01:02] I am always there [01:02] I build my diy cnc on the sunny days so I can drill outside.. and server on the cold or rainy days [01:03] I use joe as my editor [01:03] cnc? [01:03] try Youtube CNC Machine [01:04] I have a spare bedroom that has a very big CNC living there [01:04] that I made myself from scatch with AL [01:04] it is seven foot x 4 foot [01:04] nice [01:05] thanks [01:05] you setup your apache2 bits yet? [01:05] to join type /join #diycnc [01:05] not yet.. [01:06] what is it needed, apache2, phpmyadmin, anything else? [01:06] oh, mysql [01:06] this is my favorite [01:07] apt-get install joe gedit build-essential dctrl-tools unzip subversion libapache2-svn vim-nox [01:07] oops [01:07] apt-get install joe gedit build-essential dctrl-tools unzip vim-nox [01:07] the build-essential I mean't [01:08] without installingit can i view it? [01:09] There essentials... so it is a group of stuff that you will end up installing anyway.. one at a time [01:10] when you get the build-essential it gets a bunch of stuff that I am not sure of .. [01:10] I have been installing it since debian [01:11] since I was a kid [01:13] done :) [01:20] Will configured the /etc/hostname .... [01:20] now my back and my head hurts.. but mmust go on.. [01:21] ha ha [01:22] Will apt-get remove to remove build-essential [01:22] apt-get remove build-essential [01:24] Will... (pressing (Ctrl+Alt+del) works.. shutdown -P now works and so does # reboot [01:25] I guess rebooted and after where it says edoc login: is says [01:26] [ 9.032455] [drm] nouveau .... misalined reg 0x ..... [drm] nouveal ... misaligned reg 0x0060081D ==== [01:26] I think I broke my server... AGAIN LOL [01:27] Pressed enter.. and the edoc login appeared [01:27] hmmm i have no idea what that is im afraid [01:27] i need to get some shut up, 2.30am im tired, getting on! goodnight all [01:27] see ya later [01:28] Will do you know how to see the page that zooms by pre Logon: [01:28] to see what the warnings are [01:28] i dont sorry [01:28] night :) [01:28] ok [02:21] i been to like 100 rooma and they say their not ofr support is thi room for supprt i new user of UBUNTU [02:23] try /join #ubuntu [02:23] for ubuntu [02:23] this is for ubuntu server [02:23] what this room for [02:24] new users of ubuntu server.. a server is generally command line [02:24] and ubuntu has windows like windows [02:24] this is a commad libne question [02:25] in a way i guess [02:25] then you might ask it here... but try your best to use fully words.. or you might get half a responce [02:25] response [02:27] is update ubuntu better off getting from APT -GET SYNAPTIC INSTALL or just getting updates from software and updates and software updater in side ubunut === negronjl` is now known as negronjl [02:32] let me rephrase that what dose APT - GET SYNAPTIC INSTALL do [02:39] ok [02:39] I am back [02:40] $ sudo apt-get install synaptic [02:40] installs a tools for downloading and searching for downloads [02:41] I am using your speellling of it.. as I don't know the exact spelling of it [02:41] I am a new Ubuntu user as well [02:42] but if I can help I'll try.. if I fail... someone else will join the conversation [02:42] hi_668, did you miss my response [02:43] EDocToor> $ sudo apt-get install synaptic [02:43] installs a tools for downloading and searching for downloads [02:44] what dose APT - GET SYNAPTICS command do [02:44] $ sudo apt-get install synaptics [02:45] installs synaptics [02:45] apt-get has no space [02:46] and the apt-get needs a OPTION like "install" "remove" [02:46] and synaptics is a package [02:46] to use it.. [02:46] you would type [02:46] $ sudo apt-get install synaptics [02:47] somone told me this will install my updates in ubuntu but in lite foemat [02:47] format [02:47] hi_668, it does exactly like the apt-get does but like windows [02:48] and apt-get is a command line downloader [02:48] and synaptics is a GUI or Window downloader [02:48] both have a update option [02:49] am I make any sense to you? [02:49] is it any different than me just lick on the ubuntu looking icon above the trash can [02:49] on far left of the desktop i new to ubuntu [02:49] It is safe... [02:49] why don't you try it [02:50] open a terminal [02:50] i know it safe [02:50] and type apt-get install synaptics [02:50] but it like compressed verision of updates [02:51] I am on a server.. and I can't do it as it doesn't apply to command lines computers [02:51] There the same thing.. just two different ways of getting and updateing software [02:52] you can also update by [02:52] typing [02:52] $ sudo apt-get update [02:52] then [02:52] $ sudo apt-get upgrade [02:52] what's the right way to start/stop services at boot in ubuntu? [02:53] EXample : update-rc.d -f spamassassin remove [02:53] someone said it save a lot more sapce doning it that way then me doning it from clicking on the udates ico inside [02:54] ubuntu [02:54] hi_668, I don't know that much.. so I can not debate or answer that one [02:54] it is my first day on a server [02:55] but I have been using linux off and on for many years [02:55] he the synaptic updates take up less space [02:55] I don't know.. how that could be true.. but I can not confirm nor deny it [02:56] if space is an issue.. consider pressing F6 when installing and [02:58] it says th package is not available [02:59] if you had synaptic 's installed you wouldn't have an issue as it spells it for you [02:59] when you search.. it finds [02:59] it says it missing or obsolate [02:59] it might be... [03:01] hi_668, why don't you try the #ubuntu channel and ask for "What is the current package manager; and the apt-get method of downloading it?" [03:01] aomone just told tpyr that in it will update uubuntu itself but it would take less space of you do the updates thugh ubuntu it take up more space [03:02] i use 13,93 verision [03:02] 12.04 ubuntu [03:02] 13.04 sorry [03:03] hi_668, I am lost.. what is your question again? [03:03] How to do updates is [03:03] apt-get updates [03:03] i useing this as example [03:04] thier a utorrent and their a u torrent lite [03:04] hi_668, if space is an issue.. use apt-get [03:05] is that your question [03:05] synaptics was supose to work as a lite lite mean less sapce [03:05] i dont know im new to ubuntu [03:05] lite mean taling less space in your hard drive [03:05] I don't know.. what to say but that person that you were talking to must know more than I [03:07] ok whok i dont i lost too lol [03:07] I would help you,, but I just don't know.. I do understand .. but I don't understand why space is an issue [03:07] i like this better than windows os itself [03:07] it going to be some getting ust to i guess [03:08] if space is an issue UBUNTU has a MINI install .;;; Press during install and press F6 then choose mini [03:08] but it is way more complicated and you should find a web tutorial to expain the steps [03:08] he said it you save you sapce [03:09] hi_668: all Debian based distros use .deb [03:09] I get frustrated and put Ubuntu on the shelf every year.. as installing a package sometimes require tech knowledge [03:09] and i give up [03:09] lol [03:09] and apt-get is a core too for accessing the distro's repository of .debs [03:10] dpkg installs the .debs [03:10] it so better graphic are better than windows [03:10] its the same [03:10] thanks for stepping in wo0f [03:11] synaptic just uses apt-get underneath [03:11] if youre looking for a cli tool, i use aptitude [03:11] sudo apt-get install aptitude [03:12] wo0f, what does cli tool mean? [03:12] command line interface [03:12] ok [03:15] he said thie was a differnt way to install updates for ubuntu [03:16] by puting in that synaptic command [03:17] hi_668, yes three ways: synaptics which is a front-end for apt-get... apt-get or aptitude which is a command line interface [03:18] I think he is asking the correct method of installing synaptic using the apt-get install... so I am guessing that synaptic is spelled differently; is this correct [03:18] aptitude is a tool that runs at the CLI ;P [03:18] like if the update in ubunut is a lot bigger and take up more sapce and the command will save you space like the dollar menu at mcdonalds [03:18] lol [03:19] its also a frontend for apt-get [03:19] $ sudo apt-get install synaptics [03:19] hi_668: if you have a desktop GUI installed (like Unity) its not going to save any space [03:20] hi_668, how you obtain the download/software doen't change its size [03:20] its doing the exact same thing, which ever way you update [03:20] the verision i have 13.04 [03:20] 12.04 better than 13.04 ubuntu [03:21] lol [03:21] 12.04.2 is the LTS release [03:21] o new i used ubumtu for like 3 days [03:21] so 12.04.2 is more stable [03:21] not uBUMtu [03:21] ya, its supported for longer [03:22] LOL ubumtu [03:22] too funny [03:22] yo could give me a virus command and say type it in i would be stupid enoughf to put it in and gibe my self a virus [03:22] lol [03:22] hi_668, you want 12.04.2 or the LTS ... that is for sure [03:23] not the 13.04 [03:23] hi_668: if youre looking for something for light-weight, disk wise, you might want to try Xubuntu [03:23] what the difference between the 12 and the 13 [03:23] which uses Xfce [03:24] 12 is the Long Term Support release [03:24] Thirteen is on digit higher ... just kidding.. I am getting tired sorry [03:24] i have like a ten year old dell [03:24] insperion [03:24] 9400 [03:24] made 2 months b4 vist came out [03:24] what specs does that have? [03:24] that is old.. is it a laptop [03:25] yes [03:25] then put back | track [03:25] on it [03:25] what that [03:25] cop software for spying [03:26] like i said you could give a command that would give me a virus and i be dumb seoughf to type it in [03:26] then stay away from the backtrack channel or website.. that is what they did to me [03:27] so don't feel bad [03:27] im talking about you [03:27] I wouldn't do anything to harm anyone.. I am only here for good reasons [03:28] tell me to put this command in and i would not know it would be a virus [03:28] as are the Ubuntu tribe [03:28] i know im joking [03:28] ok [03:28] with you i never used linux b4 [03:29] 4th day [03:29] in life [03:29] i will belive what ever you all say [03:29] hi_668, why don't you ask for a good tutorial.. to get the basics [03:29] maybe someone will answer [03:30] ya, this really isn't the channel for it, someone will probably get annoyed at some point [03:30] command are like ms dos form when i was little [03:30] I learned on a site called debain.org or something that sounded like that [03:30] #ubuntu is where you want to be [03:30] that is true.. [03:31] ROFL are you flaming [03:31] this channel is for SERVERS.. [03:31] DEBAIN... lol [03:31] i use the copy mether like in school find th ecommand and click and past it [03:31] copying from you papper [03:32] wo0f, I am not knowing what flaming is.. if I am I guess I am sorry [03:33] hi_668, you actually should watch the #ubuntu channel... just type [03:33] /join #ubuntu [03:33] like have you ever copied off somone school papper when you where in school [03:34] lol- yes hi_668 [03:34] i google how to do this or that in google and copy and past [03:34] lol [03:35] thats what everyone does ;P [03:35] in termianl is my methode [03:35] of ubuntu [03:35] lol [03:35] let them do the work [03:36] ...and get paid for it :P [03:36] alternatively RTFM! [03:37] lol yeo [03:37] yep [03:40] so you al want me to ge rid of thse files by rite click to trash casn and will that delete from the usb drive permently [03:43] ok i downloaed ubuntu on to a USB STICK [03:46] you wont me to downloaded 12.04 lts and then go to unetbootin and download the WINDOWS OS BOOT and it will take sourgeforge websiite to download [03:47] ommm, just follow this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows [03:48] Ubuntu generally has quite good documentation, and its only a Google away ;P [03:52] ii know hhow to use the software [03:54] vecuase i downloaded it ubuntu from the usb stick but im going to get rid of the fiklesby high lighting and send to trash can [03:55] i going to high light them all rite cly click to send to trash can [04:48] silly joke question: when I type /etc/init.d/mailman start does the init.d stand for "In It Deep"? [04:49] well it helps me remember the init.d [06:19] I used to use lxc fairly regularly, lately, I've noticed that the lxc networking isn't getting configured correctly. [06:19] I haven't touched the configs. [06:19] And I ahve this in my syslog http://www.privatepaste.com/74c9c6f096 [06:20] The only major change I've done is switch from using unity to lxde. [06:20] Any ideas on what's going wrong? [06:29] Quick Question ;-) I hope;;; Is there a command that shows the partition with the mount point / [06:33] I have done this .. just can not remember... stab.. or something [06:35] EDocToor: 'mount' will show you the current mounts [06:35] EDocToor: /etc/fstab shows you what will be mounted at reboot [06:35] Sargun, Thanks.. that it [06:37] Are you still here... sarnold... you would be surprised how far I am not.. finished mail and now working on FTP wrapped in TLS sessions [06:37] All thanks to you... you are awesome [06:37] EDocToor: ooof. ftp is a horrible, crufty protocol. do you have to support it? :) [06:37] and the others on this channel [06:37] EDocToor: hehe, no, you did all the work, I just make suggestions. :) [06:37] This is a play box for learning.. nothing more [06:38] ah, good. then you'll find out that ftp is a horrible crufty protocol in a safe, fun, environment. :) [06:38] ha ha ha ha ha [06:39] nigelb: I don't know what exactly is wrong.. but the audit_printk_skb shows that not all apparmor messages are being logged; if you install auditd, the log messages will go to /var/log/audit/audit.log, and you'll be able to at least see what was being rejected [06:39] I really can not thank you guys enough.. I would be so lost reading these tutorials without a hint every now and again [06:40] sarnold: aha, thanks, I'll try that. [06:40] nigelb: some of the lxc containerization is enforced via apparmor, so I wouldn't just blindly add the rules to your profiles, but it might be something to consider [06:41] EDocToor: hehe, yeah, there's nothing quite like a helpful hint at the right place and the right time :) [06:41] I have done a lot of work on my own.. it just doesn't make any sense to me yet.. [06:42] but I have always loved command lines... [06:42] I was a MS-Dos batch code nut when I was a kid... [06:43] Well I got to get back at her.. [06:43] tanks [06:51] EDocToor: the command line is pretty awesome; there's nothing quite like being able to piece together a dozen nice little tools to solve a huge variety of complicated problems [06:51] and the design is simple enough that adding new programs into the environment is pretty easy [07:02] sarnold: hah, so this worked -> echo 1|sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward [07:03] I believe that forced the containers to use ipv4. [07:03] nigelb: ha! [07:03] .. wonder why. [07:03] I think I had set it before [07:03] ohhhh [07:03] and something recently changed it. [07:03] still, seems odd. [07:03] so, I just set it in /etc/sysctl.conf [07:03] sarnold, I have a question... that I have always wondered... [07:04] nigelb: it might be worth filing a bugreport or asking hallyn when he returns (probably a few hours) [07:04] I will :) [07:04] When the Ubuntu Server Boots.. a page of infomation FLICKERS BY... is there any way to read it. [07:04]