[02:46] <Guest72199> OK guys, I am stuck here and could seriously use a hand.
[02:49] <Guest72199> Here the situation:  I have a Samsung 700Z5A laptop - I can not install ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 unless upgrading from 12.04 LTS..... I switched to studio because, well, way better for what I do, pleasently surprised.... so, I install 13.04.  No go.  12.10 no go.  12.04 good.  Upgrade to 12.10, no go... says its good but screen just turns on and off after reboot.  so i stay on 12.04... then after a few hours of successful
[02:49] <Guest72199> setting up the screen begins to flicker with horozontal/vertical lines HORRIBLY.... i searched and found a kernal to DL and it stopped the issue. Mind you, it started out of nowhere... THEN
[02:49] <Guest72199> when its fixed i now can not see the menus right, specifically the white colors
[02:50] <Guest72199> i am using the NOX theme and it looks horrible
[02:51] <Guest72199> so i switch to a dark ugly theme so see, and come here to beg for some help... as ive been at this for a long damn time (months if you count from when I started w/ ubuntu and my  other issues) and Ive got work in the AM and I feel like I'll go nuts if I go to bed without resolving this crap.
[02:51] <Guest72199> I could take a screen snap or something?  I don't know what to say, remote desktop assistence, I am stuck here and reeeeally could use some help, it would be appreciated beyond words.
[02:56] <Guest72199> Anyone?
[04:28] <josue> hola
[04:37] <OvenWerks> N4
[04:37] <OvenWerks> N5
[04:37] <OvenWerks> N6
[07:07] <pylot> hi there, anyone able to help me with an update issue?
[07:12] <zequence> pylot: What kind of problem are you having?
[07:14] <pylot> when i go to install the last few updates, i'm getting an untrusted package message, i click ok and then the update manager crashes.
[07:16] <zequence> pylot: if you want to update, do it from the terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:16] <zequence> that's what the update manager does
[07:17] <pylot> tried already, the terminal crashes to. that's why i'm getting a bit frustrated ahaha
[07:18] <zequence> how does it crash?
[07:18] <zequence> what exactly is crashing?
[07:19] <pylot> hang on.... i may have got it working.
[07:21] <pylot> it appears the the manager doesnt want to work at all now... but i do seem to have got the updates through terminal at long last.
[07:21] <zequence> It would have very strange if the terminal would crash because of apt-get
[07:21] <zequence> it would have <been>..
[07:22] <pylot> my thoughts exactly. seemed odd to me to.
[07:22] <zequence> pylot: Is the application called "update-manager". I'm not on a Ubuntu Studio system right now. Once you're done with updating, you could check by just running "update-manager" from the terminal
[07:22] <zequence> If you get a crash again in the future, please do a bug report on it
[07:22] <zequence> Get yourself an account at http://launchpad.net
[07:23] <zequence> then, from a terminal, do: ubuntu-bug <appname>
[07:23] <zequence> if, update-manager: ubuntu-bug update-manager
[07:23] <pylot> i've been sending bug and error reports for everything that crashes.... i was getting a lot of them at the begining.
[07:23] <zequence> ok
[07:24] <zequence> but, if none was sent about update-manager, then you might need to do it manually, and that is the way to do it
[07:25] <pylot> true that. i should already be set with launchpad. so i'll do that next.
[07:28] <pylot> thanks for the help zequence, seems just chatting things through can help :)
[07:29] <zequence> pylot: That's often the case it seem :)
[07:30] <pylot> after running ap-get in terminal the update manager has kicked in to... sometimes i feel i have a ghost in my system
[07:43] <contrapunctus> Hey guys. UbuntuStudio 12.04, why does xfce4-power-manager still run on startup when I've unchecked it in startup settings?
[07:45] <zequence> contrapunctus: I'd assume it is run by root
[07:45] <contrapunctus> Hey, zequence, long time ^^ I guess I'd have to login as root to remove it?
[07:46] <zequence> contrapunctus: ps -Ao comm,user | grep xfce4-power-manager
[07:46] <zequence> ..if the process is called that
[07:46] <zequence> contrapunctus: I'd make sure why it is run first
[07:47] <zequence> or you could just show a list of all process: ps -Ao comm,user
[07:47] <contrapunctus> The first command gives nothing o.o
[07:48] <contrapunctus> oh, I think you'd want me to restart before I issue that command.
[07:48] <contrapunctus> because it's not running atm
[07:48] <zequence> ah
[07:49] <contrapunctus> brb! :)
[08:01] <contrapunctus> zequence - How weird is this? First, I give that command, and still nothing, even though the power man is running right there.
[08:02] <contrapunctus> Well, I changed it to 'grep 'xfce4'. It appeared as xfce4-power-man anon.
[08:02] <contrapunctus> (anon being username)
[08:03] <contrapunctus> xfce4-taskmanager too shows it as being run by user :\
[08:03] <zequence> I really don't know much about this stuff, but perhaps there are more than one way to create autostarts for users
[08:05] <zequence> s/there/is/
[08:05] <contrapunctus> Hm...
[14:44] <jeevanus_> haloo
[14:45] <holstein> o//
[14:47] <acerimmer> jeevanus_, greetings
[14:53] <jeevanus_> acerimmer: hai
[15:07] <jeevanus_> anyone there?
[15:08] <DarkEra> jeevanus_, if you have a question just ask and see if someone is able to help you :)
[15:11] <jeevanus_> my suspend is not working
[15:11] <jeevanus_> it says it is not authorized for my user
[15:11] <jeevanus_> "failed to suspend session" "not authorized"
[15:11] <cub> Ah I remember that thread on ubuntuforums
[15:12] <jeevanus_> hibernation is working
[15:12] <jeevanus_> But i think it works for my root user, here is the authorization for my user and root user http://paste.ubuntu.com/5749477/
[15:13] <jeevanus_> please check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5749477/
[15:14] <jeevanus_> cub: can you please provide the link, if possible ?
[15:14] <cub> I couldn't find it. Perhaps I remember wrong and we chatted in here?
[15:14] <holstein> jeevanus_: you can also try the more populated channels, since that is not an ubuntustudio specific issue
[15:15] <holstein> jeevanus_: i would try different kernels live.. see what, if any, support suspend out of the box
[15:15] <jeevanus_> holstein: I have tried with ubuntu channel also, no reply from them also...
[15:16] <jeevanus_> can some one explain what is this command is doing?
[15:16] <jeevanus_> xfce4-power-manager --dump
[15:16] <holstein> jeevanus_: actually,, it seems the issue is just permissions
[15:16] <holstein> jeevanus_: what user are you using? is it one you made?
[15:16] <jeevanus_> holstein: ya the permissions, how to modify it?
[15:16] <jeevanus_> ya one i made
[15:17] <holstein> jeevanus_: so, that is the issue
[15:17] <holstein> jeevanus_: the user permissions... you can stop messing wth other things
[15:17] <holstein> jeevanus_: have you changed anything else trying to "fix" this?
[15:17] <jeevanus_> nop
[15:17] <jeevanus_> I haven't
[15:18] <jeevanus_> just need to know how to modify the permissions?
[15:18] <cub> the xfce4-power-manager --dump on my VM box with ordinary user show "Authorized to suspend: True"
[15:18] <cub> so somewhere it must have changed.
[15:19] <jeevanus_> cub: but for me in root user it shows the same as yours
[15:19] <cub> yeah
[15:19] <jeevanus_> in my admin user it is Authorized to suspend: False
[15:22] <jeevanus_> cub, holstein: can u find anything here: man xfce4-power-manager
[15:23] <cub> which version were you runing?
[15:23] <jeevanus_>  Xfce power manager version 1.0.11
[15:23] <cub> I meant ubuntu. :)
[15:24] <holstein> jeevanus_: i would set that to match cub 's settings and test. make a backup.. know how to revert
[15:24] <holstein> "Authorized to suspend: True"
[15:24] <jeevanus_> holstein: problem is I don't know where to edit it
[15:25] <holstein> 11:19 < jeevanus_> in my admin user it is Authorized to suspend: False
[15:25] <holstein> ^^ where ever that is, for the user in question
[15:25] <holstein> i would think you are probably looking at a system wide file
[15:29] <NickG> I had a problem the other day with suspending/reboot, etc.  Apparently my power manager wasn't running, so it didn't know what to do.
[15:31] <jeevanus_> i don't understand tis :(
[15:31] <cub> perhaps already tried, but if you right click your name in the upper right corner
[15:31] <cub> and choose Properties, is Suspend checked there?
[15:32] <cub> It should open a window called Action Buttons
[15:32] <jeevanus_> there is suspend, but no properties
[15:32] <cub> did you really right click then?
[15:32] <jeevanus_> yes
[15:33] <jeevanus_> it goes to panel properties if i right click
[15:33] <cub> do you run Us 12.04 or 13.04?
[15:33] <jeevanus_> 12.04
[15:33] <holstein> jeevanus_: change the settings where you found that statement
[15:34] <cub> me too. If I right click my name I get Properties, Move, Remove & Panels in a menu
[15:34] <Guest40950> Hey guys, I was here last night for a few hours with no luck, buncha folks in the room but no replies.  I am having some issues with my Ubuntu Studio installation, I can give some pretty decent background info but my two areas, in order of concern - are a flashing screen that is REALLY messing with the white colors and no ability to right click anything at all
[15:34] <Guest40950> yeah, they greys are looking pretty funky right about now too, flashing
[15:34] <cub> I gotta run though, sry
[15:34] <zequence> Guest40950: perhaps a problem with support for your monitor
[15:35] <jeevanus_> cub: okay thanks
[15:35] <zequence> Guest40950: Did you try using another one, and if a laptop, adding an external?
[15:35] <Guest40950> well
[15:35] <jeevanus_> holstein: there is no where i found to change settings
[15:35] <NickG> jeevanus, if you create another user account, does the suspend work in that one?
[15:35] <holstein> 11:19 < jeevanus_> in my admin user it is Authorized to suspend: False
[15:35] <Guest40950> i had ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 (not studio) and never had either issue
[15:35] <holstein> jeevanus_: when you said that, where were you seeing that?
[15:36] <Guest40950> pleanty of others, which are not in play now, but these two are pretty intense and only since using STUDIO
[15:36] <jeevanus_> i have a command called  xfce4-power-manager --customize which opens my GUI for power manager
[15:36] <zequence> jeevanus_: There's a utility called xfce4-power-manager-settings
[15:36] <jeevanus_> there is no option for changing authorization
[15:36] <zequence> jeevanus_: Have you checked it out?
[15:36] <holstein> Guest40950: flashing screen.. i would look at the graphics driver.. i would try nomodeset, even if from a live CD
[15:36] <jeevanus_> i saw it in a command called xfce4-power-manager --dump
[15:36] <holstein> Guest40950: remove studio from the equation
[15:36] <holstein> ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu
[15:37] <zequence> ah, maybe it's a gui program..
[15:37] <jeevanus_> zequence: nop, i ll try
[15:37] <Guest40950> ok, so, I am not completly clueless BUT I am not all so in tune here, what do you mean by nomodese even from live cd
[15:37] <zequence> it doesn't really have any options
[15:37] <holstein> Guest40950: if you had issues that were not in studio, but are now, its likely due to a kernel change, or something else
[15:37] <holstein> !nomodeset | Guest40950
[15:37] <holstein> Guest40950: i use that as a test for graphis support
[15:38] <holstein> Guest40950: also, if you have an nvidia or ATI chip, you can try the open, closed, and vesa drivers
[15:38] <Guest40950> i have usb i created with ubuntu and studio 12.04 LTS< they are the ONLY versions that install, I can normally (not always) upgrade.  I have reinstalled Ubuntu and Studio 50 times in the last month.  And, I JUST got rid of Ubuntu for Studio because I am really only using my laptop for audio recording and graphic arts stuff
[15:38] <jeevanus_> zequence: ya it doesn't have such option
[15:39] <holstein> Guest40950: so, choose, install, and come here.. dont remove, or reinstall til you come here
[15:39] <jeevanus_> it is same as xfce4-power-manager --customize
[15:39] <Guest40950> ok one second, ill be right back i am going to look at this link... now, do I download these drivers from terminal?  the site?  which do I try?  YOu listed 2 or 3.
[15:39] <holstein> Guest40950: use the live CD.. try nomodeset.. try other graphics drivers.. elaborate about what fails when trying to install 13.04.. its likely graphics driver support
[15:39] <zequence> jeevanus_: To find out all the files included with xfce4-power-manager, do: dpkg -L xfce4-power-manager
[15:39] <zequence> if the package is called that
[15:39] <holstein> Guest40950: do you have ati or nvidia hardware?
[15:40] <Guest40950> I think my chip is NiVIDA but I cant figure out how to be sure of that.
[15:40] <holstein> Guest40950: confirm
[15:40] <Guest40950> AND thank you SO MUCH for the help.
[15:40] <holstein> Guest40950: you can look from the live CD... lspci from a terminal
[15:40] <holstein> !ati | Guest40950 you can mark this and refer to it for help
[15:41] <Guest40950> its a new samsung laptop, samsung 700z5a
[15:41] <Guest40950> ok
[15:41] <Guest40950> looking now
[15:42] <jeevanus_> zequence: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5758586/
[15:43] <zequence> jeevanus_: this is the only config file I see /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml
[15:43] <Guest40950> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5758598/
[15:43] <Guest40950> man, this screen is getting worse fast again, so hard to see sometimes.
[15:45] <Guest40950> So, the link for nomdeset - its telling me to simply open terminal and paste " acpi_osi= "
[15:45] <Guest40950> that is all?
[15:46] <jeevanus_> zequence: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5758606/
[15:46] <jeevanus_> can't find anything there
[15:46] <jeevanus_> need i go through root user/
[15:46] <jeevanus_> ?
[15:46] <zequence> jeevanus_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/929537
[15:47] <zequence> jeevanus_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/929537/comments/4
[15:49] <jeevanus_> hmm
[15:50] <Guest40950> So, this guide is seemingly over my head....so, what precisely is my next step?  I apoligize for being in a rush, my monitor is getting worse and worse and its harder to read text
[15:50] <Guest40950> kinda nervous.
[15:51] <jeevanus_> zequence: thanks, ll try
[15:55] <jeevanus_> zequnce to suspend, i can go to terminal root and give this command
[15:55] <jeevanus_> Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized
[15:55] <Guest40950> Yeah I am reading this guide through and through but its got so many variations I am completly lost as to what applies to me and how to accomplish it.
[15:55] <jeevanus_> sorry 1 sec
[15:56] <jeevanus_> dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
[15:56] <jeevanus_> but if i give in admin user it says Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized
[15:56] <jeevanus_> i think the error is in some module called UPower
[15:57] <jeevanus_> xfce4-power-manager has nothing to do with our problem it seems
[15:57] <holstein> if you can suspend as another user, the "error" is in the permissions.. not the system
[15:57] <Guest40950> hey guys my screen is practacly not readable, any  quick help would be greatly appreciated cause ive no corse of action if this goes bad... no other coputer, no way to use one.
[15:58] <holstein> Guest40950: quick help would be, try nomodeset.. you can try it from a live CD
[15:58] <jeevanus_> is there any permissions manager :P in ubuntustudio?
[15:58] <Guest40950> so, you want me to boot from my usb?
[15:58] <Guest40950> i dont have a ubuntu dvd
[15:58] <Guest40950> i have it on my flash
[15:58] <holstein> Guest40950: i dont want you to do anything.. im suggestiong it might be easeier to test nomodeset from a live CD
[15:59] <Guest40950> but, what am i doing?  re-installing?  i am confused
[15:59] <holstein> Guest40950: you are trying nomodeset.. "safe graphics mode"
[15:59] <holstein> Guest40950: you are experiencing what i see as graphics issues related to graphics driver support.. you try another driver, using nomodeset, and test that theory
[16:00] <Guest40950> ok, gotcha.  so, boot from usb, try dont install, F6, Nomodeset, run and come here to relay info?
[16:00] <holstein> thats what i do.. when i have graphics issues.. i test that, and any/all other drivers
[16:01] <Guest40950> alright thank you SO MUCH again, ill be back soon.
[16:02] <holstein> Guest40950: please do.. adn if its dead/slow here, go to #xubuntu or #ubuntu
[16:02] <holstein> Guest40950: your issue is not ubuntutsudio specific, and it can be slow here
[16:05] <zequence> jeevanus_: permissions are handled with groups, but don't think that's the problem
[16:05] <zequence> jeevanus_: Sorry about the bug report. I mixed up the dates. Thought this year 2012
[16:06] <jeevanus_> okay
[16:06] <zequence> which would have meant, the fix was not done in 12.04, but in 13.04
[16:06] <zequence> maybe it's another bug
[16:06] <holstein> i would load up the live CD, test suspend, and see
[16:06] <zequence> I would google: xfce4-power-manager ubuntu 12.04 suspend
[16:08] <zequence> This was my first hit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2148900
[16:09] <zequence> jeevanus_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[16:09] <zequence> the file to edit /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla
[16:09] <jeevanus_> zequence: gedit /etc/UPower/UPower.conf
[16:09] <jeevanus_> is there anything i need to modify this?
[16:11] <zequence> no, I don't think so
[16:11] <jeevanus_> ok
[16:12] <marco> OK guys, the flashy screen guy is back!
[16:12] <marco> With some info....
[16:12] <jeevanus_> zequence: is this related to UPower?
[16:12] <jeevanus_> my hibernation is working fine
[16:13] <Guest69874> First things first.... i didnt set nomdeset cause i made a mistake, but, interestingly enough the screen did NOT FLASH on live cd
[16:13] <Guest69874> now, here i am back on my boot and im getting no flashing either... i did type 2 commands into terminal from thqt link, though i didnt think they did anything
[16:13] <zequence> jeevanus_: I'm not an expert on power management, but I would say no, not related to UPower
[16:13] <Guest69874> but, upon reboot i noticed a disturbing message on the screen a bunch
[16:13] <zequence> jeevanus_: The file I told you has to do with permissions
[16:14] <zequence> jeevanus_: I would look at it to see what it says about suspend
[16:14] <jeevanus_> i tried this jeevanus@jeevanus-HCL-ME-Laptop:~$ dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
[16:14] <jeevanus_> Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized
[16:14] <zequence> jeevanus_: We already know you are not authorized
[16:14] <jeevanus_> thats y i thought it might be related to UPower
[16:14] <Guest69874> "No caching mode present, assuming drive cache writethrough."  something about SDC and soething about raedon or somthing, i can get more info if necessary.
[16:14] <Guest69874> annnd the blinking started.
[16:14] <zequence> Guest69874: nvidia card, right?
[16:15] <zequence> Guest69874: I'd use an external monitor, install the OS, install proprietary drivers, then see
[16:15] <Guest69874> ok so i have no monitor avl.
[16:15] <holstein> !ati | Guest69874 i would refer to this, and intall an appropriate prop drivers ^^
[16:15] <Guest69874> its a laptop
[16:15] <holstein> you can do that via tty
[16:15] <holstein> !tty
[16:15] <zequence> Guest69874: try the 13.04 live DVD
[16:15] <holstein> if you have to
[16:16] <Guest69874> when i try 12.10 or 13 it wont work
[16:16] <Guest69874> says installs fine
[16:16] <Guest69874> screen on and off at reboot
[16:16] <holstein> Guest69874: if you are not using a proprietary driver from the site listed above, please install that and test
[16:19] <jeevanus_> zequence: solved the issue i think
[16:19] <jeevanus_> i edited sudoedit /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.disable-suspend.pkla
[16:19] <zequence> makes sense
[16:19] <jeevanus_> zequence: made ResultActive=no to ResultActive=yes
[16:19] <jeevanus_> let me check completely and come again
[16:19] <zequence> jeevanus_: the question is, why was it disabled in the first place
[16:20] <jeevanus_> thanks for your valuable time
[16:20] <zequence> maybe for a good reason?
[16:20] <jeevanus_> because it was ResultActive=no
[16:20] <jeevanus_> by default
[16:20] <Guest69874> ok
[16:20] <jeevanus_> i made it ResultActive=yes
[16:20] <Guest69874> ati, not nvida
[16:20] <zequence> jeevanus_: No, I mean why would someone do that?
[16:20] <Guest69874> marco@Marco:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[16:20] <Guest69874> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[16:20] <Guest69874> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Whistler [Radeon HD 6600M/6700M/7600M Series]
[16:20] <zequence> jeevanus_: Someone disabled it for a reason
[16:20] <zequence> jeevanus_: otherwise, it would have been enabled by default
[16:21] <jeevanus_> I haven't disabled it, it came when i installed swap space.
[16:21] <jeevanus_> before i used swap space, hibernation did't work,
[16:21] <jeevanus_> may be i might have mistakenly changed some while im struggling with enabling hibernation
[16:22] <zequence> jeevanus_: I think you are coming to wrong conclusions
[16:22] <zequence> the file that you edited was written by someone. it belongs to an application
[16:22] <zequence> or a package
[16:22] <jeevanus_> oh
[16:22] <jeevanus_> how to find it? any logs?
[16:22] <zequence> jeevanus_: dpkg -S /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.disable-suspend.pkla
[16:23] <zequence> to find out which package it belongs to
[16:23] <Guest69874> also, it gives instructions for ubuntu 9 and 10, i cant find the section hardware drivers
[16:23] <zequence> it looks to me like Ubuntu has disabled suspend. the filename, after all, is: com.disable-suspend.pkla
[16:24] <jeevanus_> zequence: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.disable-suspend.pkla.
[16:25] <zequence> jeevanus_: you didn't add the dot at the end, did you?
[16:25] <zequence> you could try: dpkg -S com.ubuntu.disable-suspend
[16:25] <Guest69874> and there u go, radeon driver
[16:25] <Guest69874> on startup  i had issues w that
[16:25] <zequence> or: com.ubuntu.disable-suspend.pkla
[16:25] <jeevanus_> problem arissed when I was trying to enable swap apace from this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[16:26] <jeevanus_> ok ll try
[16:26] <zequence> jeevanus_: was suspend disabled before that?
[16:26] <jeevanus_> nop, it was active
[16:26] <jeevanus_> but hibernation was disabled
[16:26] <zequence> I see
[16:26] <jeevanus_> i tried to enable hibernation
[16:27] <zequence> well, then it was not a part of the default installation then
[16:27] <jeevanus_> that time suspend got disabled
[16:27] <jeevanus_> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *com.ubuntu.disable-suspend*.
[16:27] <jeevanus_> no it wasn't part of it, during installation i skipped the step which says to create swap space
[16:27] <jeevanus_> later created swap partition by GPart
[16:28] <jeevanus_> then configured swap for hibernation
[16:28] <jeevanus_> while configuring hibernation, this problem came
[16:29] <zequence> could be those files are added as a result of using some tool
[16:29] <jeevanus_> hmm
[16:30] <Guest69874> hey guys, so i have to put in my info on the amd website (http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx) from this: ( http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5758713/ ) but cant seem to find the proper information
[16:32] <Guest69874> i dont see answers in that terminal entry to the questions asked on the amd site provided through the ubuntu forums link
[16:35] <Guest69874> >?
[16:48] <Guest69874> ?
[16:58] <Guest69874> is anyone around im still stuck
[16:58] <NickG> What's going on?
[16:58] <Guest69874> kinda loosing it here, been wasting too many days with this.  i feel like w the right info i can resolbe
[16:58] <Guest69874> ah thanks man
[16:59] <Guest69874> So, i am thiking my graphics driver is not right
[16:59] <NickG> Yah, I know that feeling.  Lets see if I got some info
[16:59] <NickG> whats the symptoms?
[16:59] <Guest69874> my screen, the whites mainly, flash, greys too
[16:59] <Guest69874> when i start up i get message
[16:59] <Guest69874> "No caching mode page present, assuming drive cache writethrough" and somehting about SDC and something about my raedon driver
[17:00] <NickG> hold on a sec brb
[17:00] <Guest69874> i was informed going to this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:00] <Guest69874> which led me here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[17:02] <Guest69874> and than to my terminal where i got these results:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5758817/
[17:02] <Guest69874> lastly, likely unrelated, i can not right click anything.
[17:02] <Guest69874> and, let me just say, thank you beyond words for helping, really going nuts here, just wanna be DONE and use this damn thing.
[17:07] <Guest69874> ah just saw the message, gotcha.
[17:33] <Guest69874> Hello?
[17:37] <Guest69874> Is ANYONE available?
[17:37] <Guest69874> I'm really loosing it here, man.... everytime I try to resolve something another issue arises and unfortunately it seems everyone is elsewhere....
[17:40] <DarkEra> if i had the knowledge i would help. And don't forget, we are all volunteers spread all over the world and not getting paid to do this. :)
[17:42] <NickG> Guest69874: I was unable to use my touchpad to click on things, and instead, had to click the button.  This was remedied in the control center by going into the touchpad preferences, check that for your right click problem
[17:42] <NickG> As far as the graphics, Linux doesn't really need proprietary drivers, as I understand it.  I have never had to play around with any drivers, it always appeared to work out of the box.
[17:43] <NickG> It could be a refresh rate, I know that causes similar symptoms
[17:43] <NickG> At work my moniter was set to a 60hz refresh rate, which caused the blacks and dark colors to... go wavy... it's hard to explain, but I thought I was tripping out at first
[21:12] <wip> W: [pulseaudio] module-jack-source.c: JACK error >Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/5)(1: Operation not permitted)<
[21:12] <wip> when launching manually pulseaudio (i have a whole bunch of problem with it right now)
[21:13] <wip> mainly because i connected a midi controller akai mpk49 and pulse was trying to use it as a soundcard....
[21:13] <wip> btw, in 13.04 for an unknown reason, u-s installed a generic kernel...
[21:21] <DarkEra> did you upgrade it from 12.10 to 13.04?
[21:22] <wip> DarkEra, thx no fresh install of 13.04 - it was working well until i reboot my computer with the midi keyboard plugged in...
[21:22] <DarkEra> because i encountered a problem with a upgrade from 13.04 to the development cycle and also pulled in a generic kernel
[21:23] <wip> oh ok, that must be it... i removed the generic kernel to force using the rt
[21:23] <DarkEra> Ubuntu Studio 13.04 shouldn't pull in a generic kernel at all
[21:23] <wip> then the problem happened (but when trying to start it manually i had a message that the akai mpk49 didnt have a soundcard oO
[21:24] <wip> i agree! i really want to switch back to 12.04
[21:24] <wip> i have all sort of problems with 13.04
[21:24] <wip> but my system is now so unstable because i have also installed kxstudio on top of it with many test/error of my parts
[21:24] <DarkEra> unless you installed the generic yourself of course. I need to check that later on, i'm not on 13.04 at the moment.
[21:25] <DarkEra> that's all beyond my knowledge
[21:25] <wip> nope, the generic kernel was install by an update
[21:25] <wip> me too
[21:25] <DarkEra> hold on, i'm going to check my 13.04 install
[21:25] <DarkEra> brb
[21:27] <NickG> Should still have the low latency kernel
[21:27] <NickG> 3.8 i think
[21:28] <wip> Linux pscbox 3.8.0-22-lowlatency
[21:28] <wip> yes but the generic is more recent so grub use it by default
[21:29] <wip> anyone using ubuntu-studio 12.04 with kxstudio on top (ppa) and Cadence
[21:29] <NickG> oo
[21:29] <wip> i have so many problems with it in 13.04 i was wondering if its Cadence or my installation
[21:29] <NickG> no i havent
[21:30] <NickG> I use the tools provided in US
[21:30] <DarkEra> wip, i just checked ubuntu studio 13.04 which i installed when it was released as stable. There's no generic kernel in the updates on my end
[21:30] <NickG> whats kxstudio?
[21:30] <wip> well i have to say that kxstudio is really really neat, bunch of plugins and for me... vst supports!
[21:30] <wip> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
[21:31] <wip> just for this it worth it: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/KXStudio:Applications:Carla
[21:31] <wip> DarkEra, well i am very very sure that i didn't install the generic kernel myself, BUT of course i did a apt-get dist-upgrade...
[21:32] <wip> or maybe when i installed kxstudio... dont know
[21:32] <DarkEra> even then it it shouldn't pull in a generic kernel. It could be the KXstudio stuff maybe
[21:33]  * wip is hoping for a merge of kxstudio and ubuntu-studio :)
[21:34] <DarkEra> :)
[21:34] <DarkEra> i might be back later, have some things to do
[22:05] <holstein> kxstudio *is* a merge of ubuntustudio and kxstudio
[22:05] <holstein> its built on ubuntu