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Guest72199OK guys, I am stuck here and could seriously use a hand.  I have a Samsung 700Z5A laptop - I can not install ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 unless upgrading from 12.04 LTS..... I switched to studio because, well, way better for what I do, pleasently surprised.... so, I install 13.04.  No go.  12.10 no go.  12.04 good.  Upgrade to 12.10, no go... says its good but screen just turns on and off after reboot.  so i stay on 12.04... then after03:04
Guest72199 a few hours of successful setting up the screen begins to flicker with horozontal/vertical lines HORRIBLY.... i searched and found a kernal to DL and it stopped the issue. Mind you, it started out of nowhere... THEN when its fixed i now can not see the menus right, specifically the white colors -  i am using the NOX theme and it looks horrible - so i switch to a dark ugly theme so see, and come here to beg for some help... as03:04
Guest72199ive been at this for a long damn time (months if you count from when I started w/ ubuntu and my  other issues) and Ive got work in the AM and I feel like I'll go nuts if I go to bed without resolving this crap.  I could take a screen snap or something?  I don't know what to say, remote desktop assistence, I am stuck here and reeeeally could use some help, it would be appreciated beyond words.  Anyone?  Oh, can't right click03:04
Guest72199either... and, I've installed and reinstalled Ubuntu or Ubuntu Studio like 20 freaking times.03:04
clear`when you try the live cd, does everything work right?03:07
Guest72199http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/ugtheme.png/03:08
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Aiena1Can someone please help me re enable hibernate on xfce 4.10 ?03:31
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Aiena*re-enable03:33
xubuntu777s03:43
xubuntu777hola mundo !03:43
xubuntu777xD03:43
Aienahola03:43
AienaHi03:43
Aienaxubuntu77703:43
Aienaxubuntu777: have you been able to re-enable hibernate on xfce 4.10?03:44
xubuntu777como estan _03:44
Aienabien03:44
xubuntu777aqui nistalando linux03:46
xubuntu777por 4ta vez03:46
xubuntu777esta tarde03:46
AienaYo no sé más español xubuntu77703:48
xubuntu777speak english_03:49
AienaYes03:50
AienaSorry03:50
AienaI speak a bit portugues so could understand you a little bit :)03:51
Aiena*portuguese03:51
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xubuntu777i dont speek portuguese03:56
xubuntu777understend you a litle bit XD03:56
anthony__Alors, j'suis mieux de rester sous Xubuntu 12.10 ou 13.04 ?!04:24
anthony__?04:25
anthony__?04:25
anthony__?04:25
KazraChi all05:36
KazraCwhat's new in 13.04 xubuntu, any opinons on ho runsw it05:36
baizonKazraC: it runs well :)05:40
baizonvery stable05:40
KazraCnice how long have u been running it05:48
baizonKazraC: since beta 105:50
KazraCis it your main os, i uased to run unbuntu back at version 5, my laptop is running windows 8 and i dont like it05:51
KazraCi am trying out win 7 on it and runs retty good05:52
KazraCbaut thinking of linux again05:52
baizonyes its my main OS05:52
KazraCdo you know of any driver issues05:52
baizonwell im using a AMD graphics card and have no prob with it05:53
clear`xubuntu has been my main os for years05:53
* KazraC rases an eyebrow05:53
clear`i think im still on 11 tho05:53
baizonmy wifi drivers got a little bug that it spams some crazy msg in the log but its nothing big05:53
clear`my older toshiba had wifi driver problems05:53
KazraCam running an acer05:53
clear`but just bought a new samsung and installed xubuntu 13.04 with no problem05:53
clear`well, i had problems, but it was due to xubuntu05:54
KazraCthe acer is only like a month old05:54
KazraCany way must dash, see you all later05:55
clear`bye05:55
clear`i had hell trying to dual boot xubuntu and win705:55
[0gb_us]Quick question: if I install ksplice from the Software Center, will that prevent me from needing to reboot after installing kernel updates from the Update Manager?06:07
bazhang!info ksplice06:52
ubottuksplice (source: ksplice): Patching live kernel without having to reboot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-4 (raring), package size 1244 kB, installed size 3084 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; arm; armel; armhf)06:52
bazhangthats what the description says, not tried it myself06:53
[0gb_us]Yes, I know what ksplice is, I just don't know if Update Manager would take advantage of it.06:53
[0gb_us]Oh, okay. I'd test it, but I don't really know how to know when a kernel patch is coming up.06:54
Unit193Uptrack/Ksplice Update Manager is a different application to id.06:54
[0gb_us]Okay. That's what I thought was most probable. Thanks!06:54
contrapunctusGuys, why do the monitor brightness keys stop working when I close the power manager? :(07:19
[0gb_us]I wouldn't know. I can't even get the brightness keys working when the power manager is running ...07:20
contrapunctus:(07:24
[0gb_us]Yeah, not so good. Oddly enough, it works in Ubuntu, just not in Xubuntu. But Ubuntu is full of usability issues and is needlessly resource intensive.07:25
contrapunctus[0gb_us] - Thankfully that's not a problem here...but I don't understand, xfce4-power-manager and xset dpms and xscreensaver conflict settings all the freaking time...07:25
contrapunctusand I try to not have power manager run on startup because I don't really require it anymore, I uncheck it in startup and it still runs on start07:26
[0gb_us]That's odd.07:26
contrapunctusI added a killall xfce4-power-manager on start, then.07:26
contrapunctusAnd now I find that the brightness keys don't work without it, wat. :S07:26
[0gb_us]I'm going to kill xscreensaver and see if it alters my issue. I don't know what xset dpms is though, so I'll hope that isn't running.07:27
[0gb_us]And .... no. That didn't fix my brightness buttons.07:28
contrapunctusxset dpms x y z lets you set timers for (IIRC) auto shutdown, auto suspend, and auto turn off screen, in seconds, respectively.07:28
[0gb_us]Ah, that. I think I saw a setting for that, but I have it disabled.07:29
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Aiena1How do you enable hibernate in 12.04 with xfce 4.10 I have confirmed that my pc can hibernate with pm-hibernate08:44
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baizonAiena: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html09:00
Aienabaizon: thanks09:03
Aienawill reboot and check09:03
Aienabaizon: It worked only one tiny issue09:07
Aienawhen I press the power button unlike before it used to present the hibernate option in that menu too. Now that menu still shows only logout, restart and shutdown earlier I remember it used to show all four09:12
Aienain my prev xubuntu installation I had formatted afterwards09:12
Aienaboth were 12.04 only09:12
bekksAiena: How much swap do you have, and how much RAM do you have?09:13
Aiena4 gb ram and a 4gb swap09:13
Aienadefault09:14
Aienabekks09:14
Aienabut what has that got to do with the gui ?09:14
Aienait is only the power button menu which does not show it - one sec09:15
Aienabetween pm-hibernate works fine09:15
AienaI tested it out before enabling hibernate09:15
Aienabekks: the hibernate does option does not appear here http://i.stack.imgur.com/zqvov.jpg09:17
AienaI ran xfce4-power-manager --dump09:18
AienaAuthorized to hibernate: True09:18
bekksI can see the hibernate option in your paste.09:18
Aienathe hibernate option appears in the taskbar09:18
Aienano thats a sample09:18
Aienain mine only the top three appear - log out, restart and shutdown09:19
AienaI cant print screen mine when the power button is pressed09:19
Aienait freezes the desktop09:19
bekksSo that paste is useless,since it doesnt show your actual screen. :)09:20
[0gb_us]It was useful in conveying where Aiena was looking for the option.09:21
Aienabekks: preparing another image hold on09:22
[0gb_us]I have a question. What's up with the user name restrictions in (Xu|U)buntu ? In Fedora, I used the same user name I always use when I can: 0gb.us. In Xubuntu, names cannot contain dots, an even odder, cannot start with a digit.09:26
[0gb_us]*and09:27
Aienabekks: http://imagebin.org/26110209:27
Aienathat will help I think09:27
xubuntu724I just install xubuntu now !09:29
[0gb_us]Yay!09:29
Aienaxubuntu724: great :)09:30
Aienahave fun !! It takes a bit of time to learn the commnad line but then :)09:30
Aiena*command09:30
xubuntu724there will be fun ;) bye everybody :)09:31
AienaAye09:31
Aienabekks: Is there any solution this ones a tricky one09:33
Aiena*one's09:43
bekksI'm out of clues, sorry.09:43
Aienathanks09:47
Aienabekks: is there a way to print out images as printer output e.g. one printed page as one image09:48
AienaHi koegs10:02
bekksAiena: Yes, configure your printer, and just print an image you've taken.10:03
Aienano print output of any print command as individual jpgs -> some thing like a printer which pronts out jpg/pngs10:04
Aienasay a image printer10:04
Aienait prints out one jpg per page - like a print to file option10:04
Aienasomething like that10:04
bekksThere is a print to pdf option.10:04
Aienahmm I want to print from a pdf to individual jpgs then make adjustments to the output and then print the images on the actual printer10:05
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Xaysiahey12:24
XaysiaI'm trying to install nvidia drivers (latest) for my gtx 560 ti card on xubuntu 13.04, but resulted in a few bsods, how do I proceed with this?12:25
Xaysiadesktop pc, not a laptop12:26
XaysiaSomeone here?12:50
bgardnerXaysia: Here, just don't know the answer.12:52
XaysiaThanks for the answer man!12:52
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koegsBSOD in *ubuntu, never heard of that :)13:01
Sysithere literally is no such thing13:01
Sysiyou might get kernel panic or X error screen but neither is blue13:02
SysiXaysia: how did you try to install them?13:02
XaysiaI tried via the terminal13:03
Sysihow13:03
Xaysiawell, never said blue, i get a halt error message on a black page13:03
Xaysiavia the apt-get install command13:03
Xaysiapackage nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates13:03
Sysi(BSOD is acronym for Blue Screen Of Death)13:04
Sysiyou need to use software-properties13:04
Xaysiaof course, but in this case i mean a black screen13:05
Xaysiawhich properties?13:05
Sysiapplication called software-properties (maybe software-properties-gtk)13:05
Xaysiagot those already downloaded13:05
Xaysiabut when I reboot and try to start up xubuntu13:05
Xaysiaall I see is a flashing dash13:05
Xaysiaand it wont recognize the gfx card afaik13:06
Sysino it looks like worse error, not finding kernel/root partition13:06
Xaysiait seems to find the kernel/root13:07
Xaysiabut the card itself is not recognized13:07
Xaysiahow do I get the software-properties-gtk?13:07
XaysiaI can try see if I have it already, I think I already have it though13:08
Sysipress ctrl alt F1, login, remove the packages you installed and /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have one13:08
Sysisoftware-properties is graphical, you need to get to the desktop first13:08
Xaysiahow do I see which packages I have installed?13:09
XaysiaI'm a bit new to the xubuntu system13:09
Sysistart with nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates13:09
Xaysiadd, purged those13:10
Xaysiahow do I proceed?13:12
XaysiaSysi: purged nvidia*13:13
Sysirm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot13:13
XaysiaSysi: reboot done13:14
Sysididn't get to desktop?13:15
Xaysiayeah, on desktop atm13:15
SysiI think you should have menu entry for installing drivers in settings dialog13:15
Xaysiasettings dialog?13:16
XaysiaI cant find anything that has to do with drivers13:17
Sysiwell try launching software-propoerties from terminal13:18
Xaysiavia which command?13:19
Sysi"software-[press Tab]"13:22
Xaysiaah, I'm on software & updates now13:23
XaysiaNo proprietary drivers are in use.13:23
XaysiaWhere do I find the drivers?13:25
XaysiaSysi: lmk13:27
xubuntu193i want to learn something13:57
xubuntu193while installing xubuntu13:57
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bluewhaleHi! Happened to have a small problem here, came to see if someone can help me. I was using my Xubuntu desktop, and the light went off. Then, when I turned it on again, the resolution was low (1024x768), and I can't set it higher through the menu14:31
bluewhaleAnyone has any idea on how to solve this14:31
bluewhale?14:31
bgardnerbluewhale: When you say the light went off, do you mean you had a power outage?14:31
bluewhalebgardner: yes14:35
bluewhale(I'm not a native English speaker, sorry)14:35
bluewhaleIn the menu, there just isn't any resolution option higher than 1024x76814:37
bgardnerbluewhale: Please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file (or review it yourself for clues).14:37
bluewhalehi, here it is http://pastebin.com/W1WaNvEm14:39
bluewhaleoops14:39
bluewhalesorry, just a sec14:39
bluewhalethis is from the wrong computer14:39
bluewhalehere: http://pastebin.com/nARsS5cD14:41
bluewhaleany idea? :S14:46
bgardnerbluewhale: Hang on, reading.14:47
bluewhaleOk.14:47
bgardnerbluewhale: Well, according to the log file everything is working properly.  Do you remember the resolution you had set before the crash?14:53
bluewhalebgardner: yes, 1600x90014:57
bluewhaleThe resolution bacame seriously degraded...14:58
bgardnerbluewhale: Power it completely off, then power off the monitor.  Wait briefly, then turn everything back on.  After a power blip you never know what got rattled.14:58
bgardnerbluewhale: Please let us know how that goes.14:59
bluewhalebgardner: I have done that already. The power went down a few days ago, and the problem is happening since then.14:59
bluewhaleI have powered the computer off and on a couple of times, since then14:59
bluewhalethe monitor too15:00
bluewhalepretty sure it's a problem in the system15:00
bluewhalecan the Xorg configurations have been disconfigured?15:00
bgardnerbluewhale: Okay, let's walk it through then.  Do this: sudo lshw -C video15:00
bluewhaleok, just a sec15:03
bluewhalehere http://pastebin.com/JBVdjdW715:04
bgardnerbluewhale: Stand by one.15:06
bluewhaleok.15:06
AienaIs there a way to list all files installed by a package in terminal ?15:07
brainwashman dpkg15:08
brainwashshould be  dpkg -L <package>15:08
bluewhale(I'm still here, for the record)15:11
bgardnerbluewhale: Others here are probably smarter than me about X, but the way I read the log it looks like the monitor capabilities being reported by auto-probing it are what is resulting in your reduced resolution.15:13
bluewhaleso, any idea on how to fix it?15:14
bgardnerbluewhale: I do understand that can't be the root cause since you said the only difference is the power outage.15:14
bluewhaleI with there was some way to just reset everything related to Xorg...15:15
bluewhaleThis is a really annoying problem15:15
bluewhaleAny lead on what might take me to a solution?15:20
bluewhaleanything15:24
bluewhalejust anything15:24
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bluewhale:(15:34
bgardnerbluewhale: I apologize, got torn away.  I'm still looking.15:40
bgardnerbluewhale: Do you have a config file at /etc/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf?15:41
bluewhalelet me see15:46
bluewhaleno, I don't15:46
bluewhaledoes that tell something?15:46
bgardnerbluewhale: Sometimes - I'm mostly just gathering clues right now.15:47
bgardnerbluewhale: My current theory is that your monitor isn't replying with a correct EDID, but I've never had a situation where a power cycle didn't clear the issue.15:47
bluewhaleok15:47
bluewhalehm15:48
bluewhaleoh, might be relevant that my /home folder is mounted from a server15:48
bluewhalea storage server I have here15:48
bluewhalethat acts as my router as well15:48
bluewhale(it's in my LAN)15:49
bgardnerbluewhale: Thanks, I'll keep it in mind but for now I don't think that should be a part of the issue.15:49
bgardnerbluewhale: Try this: sudo apt-get install read-edid15:52
bgardnerbluewhale: Then: sudo get-edid | parse-edid15:52
bgardnerbluewhale: Then pastebin the result.15:52
bluewhalejust a sec15:53
bluewhalehere15:56
bluewhalehttp://pastebin.com/sx8C14Db15:56
bluewhalenot sure what all that means15:56
bluewhaleseems like some sort of error15:57
bgardnerbluewhale: Well, that looks to me like it's related.  On my system that results in a modeline appropriate for X to use.  I'm wondering if your monitor was damaged from the power blip and now isn't responding with proper EDIDs.  Do you have another monitor you can test so you can rule in/out the video card & software?16:02
bluewhaleno, I don't...16:03
bgardnerbluewhale: Well, if I were you my next move would be to dismantle your video: Power off, then unplug the monitor from everything (data & power), clean all your connections and plug everything back in, then power it all back on.16:04
bgardnerbluewhale: I admit, I'm stymied.16:04
bluewhalewell, let's try16:05
bluewhalebut you provided me with some useful info16:05
bluewhalethese errors on the last pastebin16:05
bgardnerbluewhale: Glad to help, let us know if you have any luck.16:05
bluewhaleI think I can search for more info with them :)16:05
bluewhaleok16:05
contrapunctus!hi16:05
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xubuntu084Hello,  just installed 12.04 on Presario C500.  Need propriet. drivers for wireless card.  When choosing "additional drivers" from menu, there are none that show up.  I need the broadcom STA to show so I can select it.18:43
bgardner!broadcom | xubuntu08418:44
ubottuxubuntu084: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:44
well_laid_lawnthe kernel has a module now that handles alot of broadcom chips18:45
xubuntu084thanks!18:59
djonohey are there any touchpad tweaks? im index finger on the left button and scroll with the middle. but two fingers on this touchpad stops  the pointer19:35
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Guest40319Hi all20:24
Guest40319Cannot delete files from ntfs partition Xubuntu 12.04: unable to find or create trash directory. What is the problem20:25
Guest40319?20:25
Unit193It's trying to put them in the trash, try Shift+delete, but that also most likely won't work as I'm guessing you mounted read only.20:28
Guest40319shift + del worked20:31
Guest40319so why it is not deleted just by del?20:32
KaurinHey there. I just set up Autofs for some of my cifs (samba), nfs and USB drives. All this works, however, is there a way for autofs to actually mount all these shares/devices at startup without me having to cd into those paths?20:44
Kaurini've been stumbling about the manpages and can't seem to find anything that suggests this20:44
Kaurinalso, i've failed hard at google-fu20:44
bgardnerKaurin: Well, if you just want them to be mapped at startup, perhaps autofs isn't the way to go?20:45
Kaurinbgardner, there is one more thing20:47
Kaurinthose cifs mounts - some are for when i'm at home, and some are for when i'm at work20:47
Kaurini'd like autofs to be persistent and keep polling those mounts20:47
Kaurinand mount them when they are available20:47
Kaurini know that a simple cronjob could do this "cd <mountpoint> > /dev/null 2>&1" but... you know :)20:48
Kaurinif there is a cleaner way, i'd really like to know it :D20:48
bgardnerKaurin: ...what?  That's a pretty good idea, actually.20:48
Kaurinwhat idea? cronjob / cd ?20:49
bgardnerKaurin: Although I don't know that I would send the output to null - if it fails, perhaps you want to keep the output.20:49
bgardnerKaurin: Yeah, I was actually going to suggest it.20:49
Kaurinit will always fail for some mounts :) don't really need the output20:50
bgardnerKaurin: Sounds like you answered your own question - just go the cron job route.20:50
Kaurinif something is horribly wrong, then i'd disable that cronjob, and do automount -v -d -f (verbose / debug / foreground)20:50
Kaurinsigh20:50
Kaurinseems like i'll have to :D20:50
Kaurinthank you for words of encouragement bgardner20:52
bgardnerKaurin: My pleasure, good luck with your project20:52
Kaurinbtw: autofs package is kind of weird. the auto.master has two directives that don't make sense, and can't get parsed by default: +auto.master and +auto.master.d./ ... why would auto.master refer back to itself, and why is there a line refering to a directory which does not exist upon autofs install... sigh20:54
xubuntu268hola alguien me puede asesorar que versionn convien para una pc vieja21:05
xubuntu268hola alguien me puede asesorar que versionn convien para una pc vieja21:05
Unit193!es | xubuntu26821:06
ubottuxubuntu268: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.21:06
David-Axubuntu268: abla usted ingles?21:07
xubuntu268muy poco21:07
David-Axubuntu268: y yo muy poco espaniol :(21:09
xubuntu268what version is good for a old machine21:10
genii32 bit21:10
xubuntu268yes21:11
xubuntu268?21:12
David-Axubuntu268: Xubuntu need less power than Ubuntu, and Lubuntu need less power than Xubuntu21:13
xubuntu268thx david21:14
Guest40319How to remove a grey background around icon on desktop on 12.04?21:17
xubuntu986hi guys i hope someone s online to answer me. i bought an old sony vaio netbook and wanted  to install my first linux on it. where do i get drivers? or do i not need them in linux ?!?23:56
Unit193xubuntu986: Depends on what devices you have, but mostly it comes with what you need.23:57
Unit193(There are of course exceptions.)23:57

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