[03:04] <Guest72199> OK guys, I am stuck here and could seriously use a hand.  I have a Samsung 700Z5A laptop - I can not install ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 unless upgrading from 12.04 LTS..... I switched to studio because, well, way better for what I do, pleasently surprised.... so, I install 13.04.  No go.  12.10 no go.  12.04 good.  Upgrade to 12.10, no go... says its good but screen just turns on and off after reboot.  so i stay on 12.04... then after
[03:04] <Guest72199>  a few hours of successful setting up the screen begins to flicker with horozontal/vertical lines HORRIBLY.... i searched and found a kernal to DL and it stopped the issue. Mind you, it started out of nowhere... THEN when its fixed i now can not see the menus right, specifically the white colors -  i am using the NOX theme and it looks horrible - so i switch to a dark ugly theme so see, and come here to beg for some help... as
[03:04] <Guest72199> ive been at this for a long damn time (months if you count from when I started w/ ubuntu and my  other issues) and Ive got work in the AM and I feel like I'll go nuts if I go to bed without resolving this crap.  I could take a screen snap or something?  I don't know what to say, remote desktop assistence, I am stuck here and reeeeally could use some help, it would be appreciated beyond words.  Anyone?  Oh, can't right click
[03:04] <Guest72199> either... and, I've installed and reinstalled Ubuntu or Ubuntu Studio like 20 freaking times.
[03:07] <clear`> when you try the live cd, does everything work right?
[03:08] <Guest72199> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/ugtheme.png/
[03:31] <Aiena1> Can someone please help me re enable hibernate on xfce 4.10 ?
[03:33] <Aiena> *re-enable
[03:43] <xubuntu777> s
[03:43] <xubuntu777> hola mundo !
[03:43] <xubuntu777> xD
[03:43] <Aiena> hola
[03:43] <Aiena> Hi
[03:43] <Aiena> xubuntu777
[03:44] <Aiena> xubuntu777: have you been able to re-enable hibernate on xfce 4.10?
[03:44] <xubuntu777> como estan _
[03:44] <Aiena> bien
[03:46] <xubuntu777> aqui nistalando linux
[03:46] <xubuntu777> por 4ta vez
[03:46] <xubuntu777> esta tarde
[03:48] <Aiena> Yo no sé más español xubuntu777
[03:49] <xubuntu777> speak english_
[03:50] <Aiena> Yes
[03:50] <Aiena> Sorry
[03:51] <Aiena> I speak a bit portugues so could understand you a little bit :)
[03:51] <Aiena> *portuguese
[03:56] <xubuntu777> i dont speek portuguese
[03:56] <xubuntu777> understend you a litle bit XD
[04:24] <anthony__> Alors, j'suis mieux de rester sous Xubuntu 12.10 ou 13.04 ?!
[04:25] <anthony__> ?
[04:25] <anthony__> ?
[04:25] <anthony__> ?
[05:36] <KazraC> hi all
[05:36] <KazraC> what's new in 13.04 xubuntu, any opinons on ho runsw it
[05:40] <baizon> KazraC: it runs well :)
[05:40] <baizon> very stable
[05:48] <KazraC> nice how long have u been running it
[05:50] <baizon> KazraC: since beta 1
[05:51] <KazraC> is it your main os, i uased to run unbuntu back at version 5, my laptop is running windows 8 and i dont like it
[05:52] <KazraC> i am trying out win 7 on it and runs retty good
[05:52] <KazraC> baut thinking of linux again
[05:52] <baizon> yes its my main OS
[05:52] <KazraC> do you know of any driver issues
[05:53] <baizon> well im using a AMD graphics card and have no prob with it
[05:53] <clear`> xubuntu has been my main os for years
[05:53]  * KazraC rases an eyebrow
[05:53] <clear`> i think im still on 11 tho
[05:53] <baizon> my wifi drivers got a little bug that it spams some crazy msg in the log but its nothing big
[05:53] <clear`> my older toshiba had wifi driver problems
[05:53] <KazraC> am running an acer
[05:53] <clear`> but just bought a new samsung and installed xubuntu 13.04 with no problem
[05:54] <clear`> well, i had problems, but it was due to xubuntu
[05:54] <KazraC> the acer is only like a month old
[05:55] <KazraC> any way must dash, see you all later
[05:55] <clear`> bye
[05:55] <clear`> i had hell trying to dual boot xubuntu and win7
[06:07] <[0gb_us]> Quick question: if I install ksplice from the Software Center, will that prevent me from needing to reboot after installing kernel updates from the Update Manager?
[06:52] <bazhang> !info ksplice
[06:53] <bazhang> thats what the description says, not tried it myself
[06:53] <[0gb_us]> Yes, I know what ksplice is, I just don't know if Update Manager would take advantage of it.
[06:54] <[0gb_us]> Oh, okay. I'd test it, but I don't really know how to know when a kernel patch is coming up.
[06:54] <Unit193> Uptrack/Ksplice Update Manager is a different application to id.
[06:54] <[0gb_us]> Okay. That's what I thought was most probable. Thanks!
[07:19] <contrapunctus> Guys, why do the monitor brightness keys stop working when I close the power manager? :(
[07:20] <[0gb_us]> I wouldn't know. I can't even get the brightness keys working when the power manager is running ...
[07:24] <contrapunctus> :(
[07:25] <[0gb_us]> Yeah, not so good. Oddly enough, it works in Ubuntu, just not in Xubuntu. But Ubuntu is full of usability issues and is needlessly resource intensive.
[07:25] <contrapunctus> [0gb_us] - Thankfully that's not a problem here...but I don't understand, xfce4-power-manager and xset dpms and xscreensaver conflict settings all the freaking time...
[07:26] <contrapunctus> and I try to not have power manager run on startup because I don't really require it anymore, I uncheck it in startup and it still runs on start
[07:26] <[0gb_us]> That's odd.
[07:26] <contrapunctus> I added a killall xfce4-power-manager on start, then.
[07:26] <contrapunctus> And now I find that the brightness keys don't work without it, wat. :S
[07:27] <[0gb_us]> I'm going to kill xscreensaver and see if it alters my issue. I don't know what xset dpms is though, so I'll hope that isn't running.
[07:28] <[0gb_us]> And .... no. That didn't fix my brightness buttons.
[07:28] <contrapunctus> xset dpms x y z lets you set timers for (IIRC) auto shutdown, auto suspend, and auto turn off screen, in seconds, respectively.
[07:29] <[0gb_us]> Ah, that. I think I saw a setting for that, but I have it disabled.
[08:44] <Aiena1> How do you enable hibernate in 12.04 with xfce 4.10 I have confirmed that my pc can hibernate with pm-hibernate
[09:00] <baizon> Aiena: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html
[09:03] <Aiena> baizon: thanks
[09:03] <Aiena> will reboot and check
[09:07] <Aiena> baizon: It worked only one tiny issue
[09:12] <Aiena> when I press the power button unlike before it used to present the hibernate option in that menu too. Now that menu still shows only logout, restart and shutdown earlier I remember it used to show all four
[09:12] <Aiena> in my prev xubuntu installation I had formatted afterwards
[09:12] <Aiena> both were 12.04 only
[09:13] <bekks> Aiena: How much swap do you have, and how much RAM do you have?
[09:13] <Aiena> 4 gb ram and a 4gb swap
[09:14] <Aiena> default
[09:14] <Aiena> bekks
[09:14] <Aiena> but what has that got to do with the gui ?
[09:15] <Aiena> it is only the power button menu which does not show it - one sec
[09:15] <Aiena> between pm-hibernate works fine
[09:15] <Aiena> I tested it out before enabling hibernate
[09:17] <Aiena> bekks: the hibernate does option does not appear here http://i.stack.imgur.com/zqvov.jpg
[09:18] <Aiena> I ran xfce4-power-manager --dump
[09:18] <Aiena> Authorized to hibernate: True
[09:18] <bekks> I can see the hibernate option in your paste.
[09:18] <Aiena> the hibernate option appears in the taskbar
[09:18] <Aiena> no thats a sample
[09:19] <Aiena> in mine only the top three appear - log out, restart and shutdown
[09:19] <Aiena> I cant print screen mine when the power button is pressed
[09:19] <Aiena> it freezes the desktop
[09:20] <bekks> So that paste is useless,since it doesnt show your actual screen. :)
[09:21] <[0gb_us]> It was useful in conveying where Aiena was looking for the option.
[09:22] <Aiena> bekks: preparing another image hold on
[09:26] <[0gb_us]> I have a question. What's up with the user name restrictions in (Xu|U)buntu ? In Fedora, I used the same user name I always use when I can: 0gb.us. In Xubuntu, names cannot contain dots, an even odder, cannot start with a digit.
[09:27] <[0gb_us]> *and
[09:27] <Aiena> bekks: http://imagebin.org/261102
[09:27] <Aiena> that will help I think
[09:29] <xubuntu724> I just install xubuntu now !
[09:29] <[0gb_us]> Yay!
[09:30] <Aiena> xubuntu724: great :)
[09:30] <Aiena> have fun !! It takes a bit of time to learn the commnad line but then :)
[09:30] <Aiena> *command
[09:31] <xubuntu724> there will be fun ;) bye everybody :)
[09:31] <Aiena> Aye
[09:33] <Aiena> bekks: Is there any solution this ones a tricky one
[09:43] <Aiena> *one's
[09:43] <bekks> I'm out of clues, sorry.
[09:47] <Aiena> thanks
[09:48] <Aiena> bekks: is there a way to print out images as printer output e.g. one printed page as one image
[10:02] <Aiena> Hi koegs
[10:03] <bekks> Aiena: Yes, configure your printer, and just print an image you've taken.
[10:04] <Aiena> no print output of any print command as individual jpgs -> some thing like a printer which pronts out jpg/pngs
[10:04] <Aiena> say a image printer
[10:04] <Aiena> it prints out one jpg per page - like a print to file option
[10:04] <Aiena> something like that
[10:04] <bekks> There is a print to pdf option.
[10:05] <Aiena> hmm I want to print from a pdf to individual jpgs then make adjustments to the output and then print the images on the actual printer
[12:24] <Xaysia> hey
[12:25] <Xaysia> I'm trying to install nvidia drivers (latest) for my gtx 560 ti card on xubuntu 13.04, but resulted in a few bsods, how do I proceed with this?
[12:26] <Xaysia> desktop pc, not a laptop
[12:50] <Xaysia> Someone here?
[12:52] <bgardner> Xaysia: Here, just don't know the answer.
[12:52] <Xaysia> Thanks for the answer man!
[13:01] <koegs> BSOD in *ubuntu, never heard of that :)
[13:01] <Sysi> there literally is no such thing
[13:02] <Sysi> you might get kernel panic or X error screen but neither is blue
[13:02] <Sysi> Xaysia: how did you try to install them?
[13:03] <Xaysia> I tried via the terminal
[13:03] <Sysi> how
[13:03] <Xaysia> well, never said blue, i get a halt error message on a black page
[13:03] <Xaysia> via the apt-get install command
[13:03] <Xaysia> package nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates
[13:04] <Sysi> (BSOD is acronym for Blue Screen Of Death)
[13:04] <Sysi> you need to use software-properties
[13:05] <Xaysia> of course, but in this case i mean a black screen
[13:05] <Xaysia> which properties?
[13:05] <Sysi> application called software-properties (maybe software-properties-gtk)
[13:05] <Xaysia> got those already downloaded
[13:05] <Xaysia> but when I reboot and try to start up xubuntu
[13:05] <Xaysia> all I see is a flashing dash
[13:06] <Xaysia> and it wont recognize the gfx card afaik
[13:06] <Sysi> no it looks like worse error, not finding kernel/root partition
[13:07] <Xaysia> it seems to find the kernel/root
[13:07] <Xaysia> but the card itself is not recognized
[13:07] <Xaysia> how do I get the software-properties-gtk?
[13:08] <Xaysia> I can try see if I have it already, I think I already have it though
[13:08] <Sysi> press ctrl alt F1, login, remove the packages you installed and /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you have one
[13:08] <Sysi> software-properties is graphical, you need to get to the desktop first
[13:09] <Xaysia> how do I see which packages I have installed?
[13:09] <Xaysia> I'm a bit new to the xubuntu system
[13:09] <Sysi> start with nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates
[13:10] <Xaysia> dd, purged those
[13:12] <Xaysia> how do I proceed?
[13:13] <Xaysia> Sysi: purged nvidia*
[13:13] <Sysi> rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot
[13:14] <Xaysia> Sysi: reboot done
[13:15] <Sysi> didn't get to desktop?
[13:15] <Xaysia> yeah, on desktop atm
[13:15] <Sysi> I think you should have menu entry for installing drivers in settings dialog
[13:16] <Xaysia> settings dialog?
[13:17] <Xaysia> I cant find anything that has to do with drivers
[13:18] <Sysi> well try launching software-propoerties from terminal
[13:19] <Xaysia> via which command?
[13:22] <Sysi> "software-[press Tab]"
[13:23] <Xaysia> ah, I'm on software & updates now
[13:23] <Xaysia> No proprietary drivers are in use.
[13:25] <Xaysia> Where do I find the drivers?
[13:27] <Xaysia> Sysi: lmk
[13:57] <xubuntu193> i want to learn something
[13:57] <xubuntu193> while installing xubuntu
[14:31] <bluewhale> Hi! Happened to have a small problem here, came to see if someone can help me. I was using my Xubuntu desktop, and the light went off. Then, when I turned it on again, the resolution was low (1024x768), and I can't set it higher through the menu
[14:31] <bluewhale> Anyone has any idea on how to solve this
[14:31] <bluewhale> ?
[14:31] <bgardner> bluewhale: When you say the light went off, do you mean you had a power outage?
[14:35] <bluewhale> bgardner: yes
[14:35] <bluewhale> (I'm not a native English speaker, sorry)
[14:37] <bluewhale> In the menu, there just isn't any resolution option higher than 1024x768
[14:37] <bgardner> bluewhale: Please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file (or review it yourself for clues).
[14:39] <bluewhale> hi, here it is http://pastebin.com/W1WaNvEm
[14:39] <bluewhale> oops
[14:39] <bluewhale> sorry, just a sec
[14:39] <bluewhale> this is from the wrong computer
[14:41] <bluewhale> here: http://pastebin.com/nARsS5cD
[14:46] <bluewhale> any idea? :S
[14:47] <bgardner> bluewhale: Hang on, reading.
[14:47] <bluewhale> Ok.
[14:53] <bgardner> bluewhale: Well, according to the log file everything is working properly.  Do you remember the resolution you had set before the crash?
[14:57] <bluewhale> bgardner: yes, 1600x900
[14:58] <bluewhale> The resolution bacame seriously degraded...
[14:58] <bgardner> bluewhale: Power it completely off, then power off the monitor.  Wait briefly, then turn everything back on.  After a power blip you never know what got rattled.
[14:59] <bgardner> bluewhale: Please let us know how that goes.
[14:59] <bluewhale> bgardner: I have done that already. The power went down a few days ago, and the problem is happening since then.
[14:59] <bluewhale> I have powered the computer off and on a couple of times, since then
[15:00] <bluewhale> the monitor too
[15:00] <bluewhale> pretty sure it's a problem in the system
[15:00] <bluewhale> can the Xorg configurations have been disconfigured?
[15:00] <bgardner> bluewhale: Okay, let's walk it through then.  Do this: sudo lshw -C video
[15:03] <bluewhale> ok, just a sec
[15:04] <bluewhale> here http://pastebin.com/JBVdjdW7
[15:06] <bgardner> bluewhale: Stand by one.
[15:06] <bluewhale> ok.
[15:07] <Aiena> Is there a way to list all files installed by a package in terminal ?
[15:08] <brainwash> man dpkg
[15:08] <brainwash> should be  dpkg -L <package>
[15:11] <bluewhale> (I'm still here, for the record)
[15:13] <bgardner> bluewhale: Others here are probably smarter than me about X, but the way I read the log it looks like the monitor capabilities being reported by auto-probing it are what is resulting in your reduced resolution.
[15:14] <bluewhale> so, any idea on how to fix it?
[15:14] <bgardner> bluewhale: I do understand that can't be the root cause since you said the only difference is the power outage.
[15:15] <bluewhale> I with there was some way to just reset everything related to Xorg...
[15:15] <bluewhale> This is a really annoying problem
[15:20] <bluewhale> Any lead on what might take me to a solution?
[15:24] <bluewhale> anything
[15:24] <bluewhale> just anything
[15:34] <bluewhale> :(
[15:40] <bgardner> bluewhale: I apologize, got torn away.  I'm still looking.
[15:41] <bgardner> bluewhale: Do you have a config file at /etc/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[15:46] <bluewhale> let me see
[15:46] <bluewhale> no, I don't
[15:46] <bluewhale> does that tell something?
[15:47] <bgardner> bluewhale: Sometimes - I'm mostly just gathering clues right now.
[15:47] <bgardner> bluewhale: My current theory is that your monitor isn't replying with a correct EDID, but I've never had a situation where a power cycle didn't clear the issue.
[15:47] <bluewhale> ok
[15:48] <bluewhale> hm
[15:48] <bluewhale> oh, might be relevant that my /home folder is mounted from a server
[15:48] <bluewhale> a storage server I have here
[15:48] <bluewhale> that acts as my router as well
[15:49] <bluewhale> (it's in my LAN)
[15:49] <bgardner> bluewhale: Thanks, I'll keep it in mind but for now I don't think that should be a part of the issue.
[15:52] <bgardner> bluewhale: Try this: sudo apt-get install read-edid
[15:52] <bgardner> bluewhale: Then: sudo get-edid | parse-edid
[15:52] <bgardner> bluewhale: Then pastebin the result.
[15:53] <bluewhale> just a sec
[15:56] <bluewhale> here
[15:56] <bluewhale> http://pastebin.com/sx8C14Db
[15:56] <bluewhale> not sure what all that means
[15:57] <bluewhale> seems like some sort of error
[16:02] <bgardner> bluewhale: Well, that looks to me like it's related.  On my system that results in a modeline appropriate for X to use.  I'm wondering if your monitor was damaged from the power blip and now isn't responding with proper EDIDs.  Do you have another monitor you can test so you can rule in/out the video card & software?
[16:03] <bluewhale> no, I don't...
[16:04] <bgardner> bluewhale: Well, if I were you my next move would be to dismantle your video: Power off, then unplug the monitor from everything (data & power), clean all your connections and plug everything back in, then power it all back on.
[16:04] <bgardner> bluewhale: I admit, I'm stymied.
[16:05] <bluewhale> well, let's try
[16:05] <bluewhale> but you provided me with some useful info
[16:05] <bluewhale> these errors on the last pastebin
[16:05] <bgardner> bluewhale: Glad to help, let us know if you have any luck.
[16:05] <bluewhale> I think I can search for more info with them :)
[16:05] <bluewhale> ok
[16:05] <contrapunctus> !hi
[18:43] <xubuntu084> Hello,  just installed 12.04 on Presario C500.  Need propriet. drivers for wireless card.  When choosing "additional drivers" from menu, there are none that show up.  I need the broadcom STA to show so I can select it.
[18:44] <bgardner> !broadcom | xubuntu084
[18:45] <well_laid_lawn> the kernel has a module now that handles alot of broadcom chips
[18:59] <xubuntu084> thanks!
[19:35] <djono> hey are there any touchpad tweaks? im index finger on the left button and scroll with the middle. but two fingers on this touchpad stops  the pointer
[20:24] <Guest40319> Hi all
[20:25] <Guest40319> Cannot delete files from ntfs partition Xubuntu 12.04: unable to find or create trash directory. What is the problem
[20:25] <Guest40319> ?
[20:28] <Unit193> It's trying to put them in the trash, try Shift+delete, but that also most likely won't work as I'm guessing you mounted read only.
[20:31] <Guest40319> shift + del worked
[20:32] <Guest40319> so why it is not deleted just by del?
[20:44] <Kaurin> Hey there. I just set up Autofs for some of my cifs (samba), nfs and USB drives. All this works, however, is there a way for autofs to actually mount all these shares/devices at startup without me having to cd into those paths?
[20:44] <Kaurin> i've been stumbling about the manpages and can't seem to find anything that suggests this
[20:44] <Kaurin> also, i've failed hard at google-fu
[20:45] <bgardner> Kaurin: Well, if you just want them to be mapped at startup, perhaps autofs isn't the way to go?
[20:47] <Kaurin> bgardner, there is one more thing
[20:47] <Kaurin> those cifs mounts - some are for when i'm at home, and some are for when i'm at work
[20:47] <Kaurin> i'd like autofs to be persistent and keep polling those mounts
[20:47] <Kaurin> and mount them when they are available
[20:48] <Kaurin> i know that a simple cronjob could do this "cd <mountpoint> > /dev/null 2>&1" but... you know :)
[20:48] <Kaurin> if there is a cleaner way, i'd really like to know it :D
[20:48] <bgardner> Kaurin: ...what?  That's a pretty good idea, actually.
[20:49] <Kaurin> what idea? cronjob / cd ?
[20:49] <bgardner> Kaurin: Although I don't know that I would send the output to null - if it fails, perhaps you want to keep the output.
[20:49] <bgardner> Kaurin: Yeah, I was actually going to suggest it.
[20:50] <Kaurin> it will always fail for some mounts :) don't really need the output
[20:50] <bgardner> Kaurin: Sounds like you answered your own question - just go the cron job route.
[20:50] <Kaurin> if something is horribly wrong, then i'd disable that cronjob, and do automount -v -d -f (verbose / debug / foreground)
[20:50] <Kaurin> sigh
[20:50] <Kaurin> seems like i'll have to :D
[20:52] <Kaurin> thank you for words of encouragement bgardner
[20:52] <bgardner> Kaurin: My pleasure, good luck with your project
[20:54] <Kaurin> btw: autofs package is kind of weird. the auto.master has two directives that don't make sense, and can't get parsed by default: +auto.master and +auto.master.d./ ... why would auto.master refer back to itself, and why is there a line refering to a directory which does not exist upon autofs install... sigh
[21:05] <xubuntu268> hola alguien me puede asesorar que versionn convien para una pc vieja
[21:05] <xubuntu268> hola alguien me puede asesorar que versionn convien para una pc vieja
[21:06] <Unit193> !es | xubuntu268
[21:07] <David-A> xubuntu268: abla usted ingles?
[21:07] <xubuntu268> muy poco
[21:09] <David-A> xubuntu268: y yo muy poco espaniol :(
[21:10] <xubuntu268> what version is good for a old machine
[21:10] <genii> 32 bit
[21:11] <xubuntu268> yes
[21:12] <xubuntu268> ?
[21:13] <David-A> xubuntu268: Xubuntu need less power than Ubuntu, and Lubuntu need less power than Xubuntu
[21:14] <xubuntu268> thx david
[21:17] <Guest40319> How to remove a grey background around icon on desktop on 12.04?
[23:56] <xubuntu986> hi guys i hope someone s online to answer me. i bought an old sony vaio netbook and wanted  to install my first linux on it. where do i get drivers? or do i not need them in linux ?!?
[23:57] <Unit193> xubuntu986: Depends on what devices you have, but mostly it comes with what you need.
[23:57] <Unit193> (There are of course exceptions.)