| wallyworld_ | thumper: hi, just taking to dog to the vet. i'm just about to propose the status stuff. took ages to get the new tests passing. i ended up exporting ParentId() and adding a couple of other helpers | 01:32 |
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| wallyworld_ | i'll do the watcher stuff next | 01:32 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: ok | 01:32 |
| wallyworld_ | the status stuff supported arbitary nesting | 01:33 |
| wallyworld_ | bt we don't use it yet but it will be there for when we do | 01:33 |
| wallyworld_ | bbiab | 01:33 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: found another problem - there are docs ordered by machine id which do an Atoi() but container ids fail that since they are not numbers. so i'll have to find a way around that | 02:23 |
| thumper | hahaha | 02:24 |
| thumper | bummer | 02:24 |
| wallyworld_ | yeah, i'll need to split the id and process from left to right | 02:25 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: we you have a moment https://codereview.appspot.com/10252044 | 03:00 |
| wallyworld_ | when | 03:01 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: question about container watchers - i'll first do a lifecycle watcher. does that suit your needs? | 03:07 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: hey, | 03:18 |
| wallyworld_ | ho | 03:18 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: I think that is what I need | 03:18 |
| wallyworld_ | ok, can add an entity watcher later if needed | 03:18 |
| thumper | what's the difference? | 03:18 |
| wallyworld_ | i think lifecycle is created/deleted etc, entity is state changes and such | 03:19 |
| wallyworld_ | not sure exactly yet | 03:19 |
| wallyworld_ | i'll know once i write some tests | 03:19 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: I want a watcher like the one that he provisioner watches :) | 03:28 |
| thumper | don't know what type that is | 03:28 |
| wallyworld_ | ok | 03:28 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: https://codereview.appspot.com/10250044 | 03:58 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: soon | 04:06 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: no problem, just wanted to let you know they were there | 04:06 |
| thumper | kk | 04:06 |
| * thumper crosses fingers | 04:48 | |
| * thumper waits for ec2 to bootstrap | 04:54 | |
| thumper | wallyworld_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760381/ | 05:11 |
| === tasdomas_afk is now known as tasdomas | ||
| === thumper is now known as thumper-afk | ||
| rogpeppe1 | mornin' all | 07:29 |
| === thumper-afk is now known as thumper | ||
| thumper | hi rogpeppe1 | 07:47 |
| rogpeppe1 | thumper: yo! | 07:47 |
| thumper | rogpeppe1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760381/ | 07:48 |
| thumper | rogpeppe1: manual poking to get to this stage | 07:48 |
| thumper | but the bits are working | 07:48 |
| thumper | well, mostly working | 07:48 |
| rogpeppe1 | thumper: why the lack of quotes around the container name? | 07:49 |
| rogpeppe1 | thumper: good stuff BTW! | 07:49 |
| thumper | rogpeppe1: yaml output | 07:49 |
| thumper | needed around 0 so not an int | 07:49 |
| rogpeppe1 | thumper: ah of course. a number needs to be quoted | 07:49 |
| thumper | but 1/lxc/0 is obviously a string | 07:49 |
| thumper | so no quotes needed | 07:49 |
| thumper | still using manual hackery to manually create a provisioner on the machine | 07:50 |
| thumper | but it is using the provisioner task and lxc broker | 07:50 |
| thumper | with a real cloud-init to start the machine agent | 07:50 |
| * thumper jumps into the meeting hangout | 07:51 | |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: saw the pastebin earlier, looks nice, eill look even nicer with my juju status branch landed :-) | 07:55 |
| jam | mgz: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d3f48db1cccf0d24b0573a02f3a46f709af109a6 | 08:01 |
| jam | wallyworld_: ^^ | 08:02 |
| wallyworld_ | oh different | 08:02 |
| wallyworld_ | TheMue: ^^^^^^^^^^ | 08:02 |
| jam | wallyworld_: where did you get your link from? (This one was on the calendar) | 08:03 |
| wallyworld_ | jam: the calendar | 08:03 |
| fwereade__ | wallyworld_, jam, I think I'm in the calendar one too... https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/bf3f4cfe715017bf60521d59b0628e5873f2a1d3 | 08:04 |
| * fwereade__ leaves | 08:04 | |
| wallyworld_ | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/bWFyay5yYW1tLWNocmlzdGVuc2VuQGNhbm9uaWNhbC5jb20.mut2dk4mvoj39eq8jqni20ukoc | 08:04 |
| === danilos__ is now known as danilos | ||
| thumper | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/bWFyay5yYW1tLWNocmlzdGVuc2VuQGNhbm9uaWNhbC5jb20.mut2dk4mvoj39eq8jqni20ukoc | 08:04 |
| wallyworld_ | fwereade__: yes, thumperstuffed up :-) | 08:05 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: were you going to chat about containers? perhaps a joint meeting with me too? | 08:07 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: I wanted to discuss the provisioner refactoring | 08:07 |
| wallyworld_ | ok, i have some questions as well | 08:08 |
| mramm | hey all, | 08:43 |
| mramm | sorry I set my alarm wrong | 08:43 |
| mramm | just went off | 08:43 |
| mramm | and I realize the team meeting is not starting in 15 min, it started 45 min ago | 08:43 |
| mgz | mramm: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d3f48db1cccf0d24b0573a02f3a46f709af109a6 | 08:45 |
| mramm | jam: did you guys chat about when tarmac is going to "land"? | 09:05 |
| jam | today | 09:06 |
| jam | mramm: I'll be making it live today. Everyone seemed happy with the plan I proposed. | 09:06 |
| mramm | cool | 09:07 |
| mramm | sounds good | 09:07 |
| === tasdomas is now known as tasdomas_afk | ||
| === tasdomas_afk is now known as tasdomas | ||
| jam | thumper: quick poke about the "InParallel" test. | 09:21 |
| jam | What if we change it from sleeping, to having one subprocess block until the other one is started? | 09:22 |
| thumper | jam: yes... | 09:22 |
| jam | so it would wait for a file that the other one creates, for example | 09:22 |
| thumper | I don't really care how it is changed as long as it is testing the parallel gathering | 09:23 |
| jam | you could have subprocess a creates file a and waits for b | 09:23 |
| jam | and vice versa | 09:23 |
| jam | so they must both be called at the same time | 09:23 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: ping | 10:15 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, pong | 10:35 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, still eating lunch | 10:35 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, I may have failed to communicate that if yur tests depend on some specific number of events they're Doing It Wrong | 10:36 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, but if the tests just watch for events until there are no more cleanups to perform... then... hmm. there may actually still be a race. bah | 10:36 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, yeah, there's a race, but it only affects the followup | 10:37 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, so all you need to do is watch for cleanup events until you get one and there aren't any more cleanups required | 10:37 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, at that point you can be sure that the cleaner did its job | 10:38 |
| jam | fwereade__: https://codereview.appspot.com/10234047 makes a test that occassionaly fails due to timing hiccups into a faster and reliable 'event' sort of mode. | 10:38 |
| jam | Something I'd like to land before switching to tarmac | 10:38 |
| fwereade__ | jam, LGTM | 10:39 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: Yeah, it does. Only want to talk about the timeout with you. | 10:39 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, ah, go on | 10:39 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: You wondered about a "typo", but sadly it is none. The watcher in the test gets the second event (where then no more cleanups are needed, I followed it) after such a long time. | 10:41 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: Maybe you've any idea for the reason. | 10:41 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: Because that definitely should not be. | 10:41 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, ah, are you not syncing in your select loop? StartSync at the start of that loop, sorry I missed it | 10:41 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, default sync period is 5s | 10:41 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, ha | 10:42 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: IMHO I've tested it also with StartSync in the loop, but I'll verify it. | 10:42 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, no, I know what's going on, sorry | 10:42 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: Oh *listening* | 10:42 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, StartSync just at the top of the loop is not good enough | 10:42 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, because the watcher event could come in after that | 10:43 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, you need to keep on independently StartSyncing as you go through | 10:43 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, with StartSync at the top, `case <-time.After(50 * time.Millisecond): continue` should do the trick | 10:43 |
| jam | mgz: can you look at https://codereview.appspot.com/10234047 so I can land it? | 10:44 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: ah, push harder, nice idea | 10:44 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: will add it and come back to you | 10:44 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: but please don't let me disturb you at lunch, i'm sorry | 10:45 |
| fwereade__ | jam, fwiw, I think there may still be branches approved that aren't necessarily ready to land, please unapprove them before you start tarmaccing ;) | 10:45 |
| mgz | looking at it | 10:46 |
| mgz | and ugh, shell | 10:47 |
| jam | mgz: :) | 10:47 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: just one last thing: fantastic, it works! | 10:48 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: thanks | 10:48 |
| jam | mgz: so have I turned you off so completely ? | 10:53 |
| mgz | jam: commented | 10:53 |
| jam | mgz: thanks | 11:05 |
| * TheMue => lunchtime | 11:13 | |
| danilos | mgz, jam: hey, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8868e66b07fa02bdc903be4601200d470dae9ee3 :) | 11:30 |
| mgz | ta | 11:31 |
| danilos | mgz, I am back, fwiw (and actually already fixing another annoyance I hit) | 12:42 |
| mgz | likewise | 12:43 |
| danilos | anybody wants to take a peek at trivial branch: https://codereview.appspot.com/10244044 | 12:44 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: any good idea on how to test the resumer? | 12:47 |
| danilos | jam: you had a fix for StateSuite.TestOpenDelaysRetryBadAddress failure or was that something else? | 13:09 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, none whatsoever -- just start it and stop it I reckon | 13:22 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, (sorry I mised you) | 13:22 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, we'd have to inflict damage to the transaction log on purpose to test it, and spending time on that in particular seems like a bit of a waste of effort | 13:23 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: no pro, i'll add this. the rest has been simple. cleaner is also proposed again | 13:23 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: yep, think so too. i took a look on how ResumeAll() works, and here we would have to do evil stuff under the hood :) | 13:24 |
| === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood | ||
| jam | mgz or danilos: the juju cross-team meeting is supposed to happen in about 10 minutes, could one of you make it? | 14:25 |
| mgz | I can if needed | 14:25 |
| jam | mgz: thanks, I can't really make it today | 14:26 |
| jam | (today is my wife's b-day) | 14:26 |
| jam | mgz: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/YW50b25pby5yb3NhbGVzQGNhbm9uaWNhbC5jb20.2ijeg1lk8l6gq6d4ilo6jot1j4 is the link from email | 14:26 |
| mgz | ta | 14:26 |
| TheMue | tarmac help needed. i've got an "old" branch now with two lgtms (after a final local change). now i've committed and merged it locally. but i'm not sure about the reproposal for launchpad. | 14:49 |
| mgz | see the instructions in jam's post to the list | 14:50 |
| TheMue | mgz: i've seen them, but still have problems/questions. if i set my branched to approved now the final changes won't be in there. | 14:51 |
| mgz | you just go to the branch webpage, and repropose against lp:juju-core | 14:52 |
| TheMue | with "resubmit proposal"? | 14:53 |
| mgz | yup | 14:53 |
| TheMue | and my still local changes? simple bzr push before resubmit? | 14:54 |
| mgz | yes | 14:55 |
| TheMue | that sounds good, thanks | 14:56 |
| TheMue | so, now i'm curious how it will work ;) | 15:04 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, mramm: ready? | 15:08 |
| mramm | so, meeting | 15:08 |
| mramm | yep | 15:08 |
| mramm | hangout? | 15:08 |
| TheMue | yep | 15:08 |
| fwereade__ | mramm, TheMue, I'll start one | 15:08 |
| rogpeppe1 | just going to pick up van from MOT test. back in 15 mins. | 15:22 |
| TheMue | fwereade__: ping => https://codereview.appspot.com/10266043 | 15:37 |
| fwereade__ | TheMue, cheers | 15:37 |
| === tasdomas is now known as tasdomas_afk | ||
| jamespage | mgz, do you have a release tarball for 1.11.0? | 16:56 |
| mgz | jamespage: no, but I can make one | 16:59 |
| mgz | it just won't be what was actually used (as I haven't switched dave onto the new method yet) | 16:59 |
| jamespage | mgz, great - it would be nice to stuff a new release into saucy as we make it he default | 16:59 |
| ahasenack | so juju-core trunk now wants a service name in the config yaml file? | 18:09 |
| ahasenack | https://code.launchpad.net/~fwereade/juju-core/config-5-state-service-config-yaml/+merge/168579 | 18:09 |
| ahasenack | just checking | 18:09 |
| rogpeppe1 | time to stop. g'night all. | 18:47 |
| thumper | morning folks | 21:34 |
| thumper | fwereade__: ping | 21:49 |
| * thumper bootstraps ec2 | 22:04 | |
| thumper | geez this takes a while... | 22:04 |
| thumper | mramm2: ping | 22:13 |
| thumper | jcastro: ping? | 22:15 |
| thumper | m_3: ping? | 22:16 |
| * thumper feels the loneliness of being at utc+12 | 22:17 | |
| jcastro | yo thumper | 22:18 |
| thumper | jcastro: hey man | 22:18 |
| jcastro | I am in the middle of BBQing, so in and out | 22:18 |
| jcastro | so keep talking | 22:18 |
| thumper | jcastro: what is a nice simple charm to deploy? | 22:18 |
| thumper | jcastro: the first one to be in an lxc container in ec2 | 22:18 |
| m_3 | thumper: pong | 22:19 |
| m_3 | what's up? | 22:19 |
| thumper | m_3: just feeling lonely :) | 22:19 |
| m_3 | ha | 22:19 |
| thumper | m_3: wanting an easy charm for testing | 22:19 |
| m_3 | mysql | 22:19 |
| m_3 | it's my goto for when I need to precache lxc and stuff like that | 22:19 |
| thumper | precache? | 22:19 |
| jcastro | thumper: wordpress is our defacto | 22:21 |
| jcastro | etherpad-lite has no deps though | 22:21 |
| jcastro | if you only want a single container with no relations | 22:21 |
| m_3 | thumper: yeah, the juju-0.7 worflow was pretty flawed wrt lxc | 22:21 |
| m_3 | thumper: you'd run juju bootstrap and that'd run zk and prep stuff | 22:22 |
| m_3 | but the lxc template images wouldn't build out (or download cloudimages) until the first time you actually _deployed_ a service | 22:22 |
| m_3 | um... without letting the user know what was going on | 22:23 |
| thumper | :) | 22:23 |
| m_3 | so it'd just quietly block while downloading | 22:23 |
| m_3 | you'd naturally kill it | 22:23 |
| m_3 | and wind up with a halfway downloaded image in /var/cache/lxc | 22:23 |
| jcastro | let's not spoil him with how it sucked | 22:24 |
| m_3 | ha | 22:24 |
| m_3 | sorry | 22:24 |
| m_3 | he asked | 22:24 |
| jcastro | that way he can come up with something awesome without being jaded like we are | 22:24 |
| m_3 | yes, /me will sit on his hands | 22:24 |
| jcastro | "and then, we asked 10 people to download 450mb of images on conference wireless for this charm school" | 22:24 |
| jcastro | hahahah | 22:24 |
| jcastro | <--- what were we thinking | 22:24 |
| * thumper has some thoughts around that | 22:24 | |
| thumper | jcastro: what if we wrote a simple go http server for you | 22:25 |
| thumper | jcastro: so at a charm school, you could run this, and it serves just the ubuntu-cloud lxc tempalte | 22:25 |
| thumper | people could then run wget to grab it locally | 22:25 |
| m_3 | we can cache cloud images lots of ways | 22:25 |
| m_3 | lxc builds nicely from cloud images now | 22:25 |
| m_3 | I also liked having the download happen during package install... i.e., if the local provider is in its own package, it can get the image templates during package install | 22:27 |
| m_3 | peiople are used to waiting on apt | 22:27 |
| m_3 | thumper: but really we're open to whatever makes sense man | 22:27 |
| thumper | well, I can see how to make the local provider now that I've messed around a lot with lxc | 22:28 |
| thumper | but containerisation first, then network, then local provicer | 22:28 |
| thumper | but it is coming | 22:28 |
| * m_3 loves lxc | 22:28 | |
| jcastro | thumper: that sounds like a plan | 22:30 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: you happy with the juju status mp now? | 22:40 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: sorry, not looked at it | 22:40 |
| thumper | trying to work out why what worked yesterday isn't today | 22:41 |
| wallyworld_ | np. fat chance i'll get a 2nd +1 today :-( | 22:41 |
| thumper | at least I have worked out why my programs were hanging | 22:45 |
| wallyworld_ | reason? | 22:48 |
| thumper | hmm... | 22:49 |
| thumper | lxc isn't nice | 22:49 |
| thumper | golxc runs lxc-start | 22:49 |
| thumper | then waits forever for it to be running | 22:50 |
| thumper | if there is an error in the config somehow... | 22:50 |
| thumper | then it won't start | 22:50 |
| thumper | and lxc-start doesn't return non-zero exit | 22:50 |
| thumper | also found | 22:50 |
| thumper | that if I pass the lxc.conf file to lxc-create, the mount works | 22:51 |
| thumper | if I only pass it to lxc-start, the mount fails | 22:51 |
| thumper | so it doesn't start | 22:51 |
| * thumper quietly rages | 22:55 | |
| thumper | wallyworld_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763044/ | 22:58 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: niiiiiice | 22:59 |
| wallyworld_ | would look better with my juju status :-) | 22:59 |
| thumper | :) | 22:59 |
| wallyworld_ | can we wrap lxc-start somehow? | 22:59 |
| thumper | that is with --force-machine | 22:59 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: I am | 22:59 |
| thumper | twice | 22:59 |
| wallyworld_ | maybe 3 times | 22:59 |
| thumper | I'm going to ask for some help around that | 23:00 |
| * thumper continues blindly (well with poor vision) | 23:01 | |
| thumper | wallyworld_: I think part of the reason is that we are asking to start --daemon | 23:02 |
| thumper | which appears to be fire and forget | 23:02 |
| wallyworld_ | sounds about right | 23:02 |
| thumper | so, zero rc, all good | 23:02 |
| wallyworld_ | my lxc foo is not excellent | 23:02 |
| thumper | but the issue appears to be "we wait forever" | 23:02 |
| wallyworld_ | i really wish we had decent progress monitoring | 23:03 |
| wallyworld_ | baked into the cli | 23:03 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: I am using my logging to trace stuff though | 23:03 |
| thumper | very nice | 23:03 |
| wallyworld_ | \o/ | 23:03 |
| wallyworld_ | but we need to productise stuff for a user | 23:03 |
| * thumper nods | 23:04 | |
| thumper | yeah | 23:04 |
| === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away | ||
| thumper | wallyworld_: lxc containers on the bootstrap node are working fine | 23:32 |
| wallyworld_ | yay | 23:32 |
| thumper | wallyworld_: got a machine agent up and running on machine 0 | 23:32 |
| thumper | 0/lxc/0 that is | 23:32 |
| wallyworld_ | manually? | 23:32 |
| thumper | sure... | 23:32 |
| thumper | I need that container watcher | 23:32 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: up for review yesterday | 23:33 |
| thumper | can't automate the provisioner until I get that | 23:33 |
| mramm2 | thumper: pong | 23:33 |
| thumper | \o/ | 23:33 |
| thumper | hi mramm2 | 23:33 |
| thumper | mramm2: was nothing important, was feeling lonely :) | 23:33 |
| mramm2 | haha | 23:33 |
| wallyworld_ | thumper: i did tell you it was there :-P | 23:33 |
| * thumper sighs | 23:33 | |
| mramm2 | thumper: I don't know when andrew starts | 23:34 |
| mramm2 | but nate the other new hire is now slated to start on the 29th | 23:34 |
| thumper | mramm2: so... using --force-machine, you can deploy into a running container | 23:34 |
| thumper | mramm2: but the 29th of july, not june | 23:34 |
| mramm2 | manual network bridging or what | 23:34 |
| thumper | mramm2: just using the lxc default bridge | 23:34 |
| mramm2 | july | 23:35 |
| thumper | so no access in, just out | 23:35 |
| mramm2 | wow, I missed that | 23:35 |
| mramm2 | you are of course right | 23:35 |
| mramm2 | that is a long time | 23:35 |
| mramm2 | hopefully andrew will start sooner | 23:35 |
| * thumper nods | 23:35 | |
| mramm2 | so you are bridging out, and everything is working | 23:36 |
| mramm2 | rock and roll | 23:36 |
| === mramm2 is now known as mramm | ||
| === mramm is now known as mramm22 | ||
| === mramm22 is now known as mramm | ||
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