[00:24] <swwet> hello we must update  your compte in chase by this link o k http://goo.gl/GNiDw
[00:24] <swwet> hello we must update  your compte in chase by this link o k http://goo.gl/GNiDw
[05:57] <gotwig> hey
[05:57] <gotwig> how can I remove the shopping scope in 13.10
[06:02] <gotwig> I removed the more_suggestions.scope
[06:28] <gotwig> how can I calculate in unity
[06:28] <gotwig> with smart scopes?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:34] <susundberg> _o/
[11:48] <BluesKaj> hi susundberg
[14:56] <gotwig> hey
[14:56] <gotwig> does someone here actually care about what I am saying
[15:09] <Atlantic777> gotwig: and what would you like to say? :)
[15:09] <gotwig> Atlantic777, it sucks that ubuntu goes standby, when I close my notebook display, right when I want to startup, or shutdown my computer!
[15:10] <gotwig> I packaged it out my case, and it was still on
[15:11] <Atlantic777> well, what do you want to happen when lid is closed? to completely shut down it or just to go to stand by (cooler is off both ways)?
[15:17] <gotwig> Atlantic777, I dont want that it suspends, when I want to shutdown my pc
[15:17] <gotwig> Atlantic777, and I close my screen. It just send a signal, DONT suspend anymore
[15:18] <Atlantic777> gotwig: so you want your computer to run normal even when you close the lid?
[15:19] <AlanBell> that is just a power management setting, you can ask it to suspend or do nothing on battery or mains power
[15:19] <Atlantic777> or it doesn't shut down when you click the "shut down" button? sorry, i still don't understand what's the problem. :/
[15:19] <AlanBell> it does annoy me that it is possible to get into a situation where an application can dispute a suspend
[15:20] <AlanBell> if the lid is shut it should *always* suspend with no questions asked
[15:21] <gotwig> I am talking about the fact
[15:21] <gotwig> that when I press, shutdown, to shutdown my screen
[15:21] <gotwig> it should shutdown
[15:21] <gotwig> shutdown takes it time
[15:21] <gotwig> but I want to move fast away
[15:21] <gotwig> so I close my screen
[15:21] <AlanBell> yeah, so set closing the lid to do nothing then
[15:21] <gotwig> while it shutdowns, than it goes into suspend, and I tought it would shutdown
[15:22] <gotwig> but t doesn
[15:22] <gotwig> AlanBell, NO, only when it shutdowns
[15:22] <AlanBell> indeed, then you open it and it wakes up and carrys on shutting down
[15:22] <gotwig> AlanBell, isnt this ridicilous?
[15:22] <AlanBell> yeah, somewhat
[15:22] <gotwig> because it gets warm, uses electricity, etc.
[15:22] <gotwig> some applications
[15:22] <AlanBell> so a lid shut suspend signal should do nothing if a shutdown is in progress?
[15:22] <gotwig> can stop suspend from happening
[15:23] <gotwig> there are options
[15:23] <gotwig> AlanBell, yeah
[15:23] <gotwig> AlanBell, same for startup
[15:23] <gotwig> there should be a beginning, and an end, when it works
[15:23] <Atlantic777> oh so when you start shutdown process and close lid during it, it still should do shutdown and not suspend?
[15:23] <Atlantic777> interesting problem
[15:23] <gotwig> It makes no sense, that suspend works, while the strange ubuntu dots say the pc goes down
[15:24] <gotwig> Atlantic777, you get my point :X
[15:24] <AlanBell> I don't get the startup case?
[15:24] <gotwig> this happened to me already like 4 times
[15:24] <gotwig> I am a student, so I never have time after my lesson, and have to rush
[15:24] <gotwig> AlanBell, I dont know if its a problem
[15:24] <gotwig> maybe I just destroyed my 13.10 setup xD
[15:24] <gotwig> lets ignore it for now..
[15:24] <gotwig> but the shutdown thing bucks me
[15:24] <AlanBell> in order to turn on my laptop I have to open the lid anyway
[15:25] <Atlantic777> AlanBell: the problem is this situation, if I get it right. You click shutdown, close lid immedietely, it doesn't shutdown but goes to standby instead.
[15:25] <gotwig> AlanBell, the thing is, what if you want that your pc starts, and right after that goes into suspend?
[15:25] <gotwig> because if you do that, it doesnt work
[15:25] <gotwig> its still normaly on, even when you closed the lid
[15:26] <gotwig> because you closed the lid after you started the pc (?)
[15:26] <AlanBell> hmm, why would you do that?
[15:26] <gotwig> to save energy
[15:26] <AlanBell> heh
[15:26] <gotwig> and to want a PC in the standby mode?
[15:26] <gotwig> IMHO its logical.. press startup, close lid, go away, come back later, and instantly work with it
[15:28] <Atlantic777> btw, I almost never shutdown my laptop, uptime is in months and it works great :)
[15:28] <gotwig> do you think my problem with the shutdown + close lid thing could be consired a bug?
[15:29] <gotwig> Atlantic777, I hate such statements xd
[15:29] <gotwig> energy killer -..-
[15:29] <Atlantic777> I didn't experience loosing too much bat. energy in standby...
[15:30] <gotwig> should I report a bug?
[15:30] <gotwig> if so, where?
[15:30] <Atlantic777> on launchpad, of course
[15:30] <gotwig> there are more like 5000 projects
[15:30] <gotwig> just saying.
[15:30] <Atlantic777> you report it, someone decides if it's ok or not
[15:31] <Atlantic777> anyway, launchpad is the right place for reporting a bug in ubuntu
[15:32] <gotwig> -..- so unspecific ;D
[16:40] <gotwig> Atlantic777, do you got any URL for me?
[16:41] <Atlantic777> this one maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[16:41] <Atlantic777> there's an irc channel for ubuntu bugs, too
[16:41] <gotwig> Atlantic777, I know how to report bugs.. In fact I am an ubuntu member =)
[16:41] <gotwig> I just dont know what is affected, here
[16:41] <gotwig> which software
[16:41] <Atlantic777> oh, sorry, I didn't now... :)
[16:42] <Atlantic777> I would say power manager maybe even acpi...
[16:42] <gotwig> I am going to ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[17:29] <smallfoot-> anyone running ubuntu+1?
[17:29] <smallfoot-> hows sauay?
[17:29] <smallfoot-> its a mess, or it works solid?
[17:30] <bazhang> smallfoot-, it's very early days.
[17:30] <smallfoot-> ya, 2 of 6 months
[17:30] <smallfoot-> so its 1/3
[17:33] <johnjohn101> "alpha 1"  next week
[17:38] <genii> smallfoot-: I'm using it with Kubuntu desktop ( KDE 4.10.4 ) ... works great
[17:38] <genii> I do two updates a day.. one in morning, one at night... so as not to let them pile up
[17:39] <smallfoot-> oh
[17:42] <johnjohn101> i was running 13.10 but had to reload, there was an update that broke something.
[17:56] <smallfoot-> run apt-get update, then its fixed
[17:56] <smallfoot-> :D
[18:04] <johnjohn101> is there anyway to get my apps to launch from dash without hitting launch?
[18:05] <trism> johnjohn101: if you hit enter it will launch the first result
[18:05] <johnjohn101> can't i just do it with the mouse?
[18:05] <trism> johnjohn101: or you can use the arrow keys
[18:06] <johnjohn101> double click or somthing? it's annoying
[18:07] <trism> johnjohn101: you should just be able to click them, did they change the dash again?
[18:08] <johnjohn101> seems like something has changed.  I pull up dash and hit the s key.  software updater comes up. i hit with mouse, it tells me what software updater is and then there is a launch button.
[18:08] <trism> johnjohn101: hmm interesting, I'll reboot to saucy and take a look
[18:17] <johnjohn101> same with every other program
[18:26] <trism> johnjohn101: oh I see what you meant, that is a very strange thing to do when the software is already installed, wonder if it is a bug
[18:26] <trism> johnjohn101: it would make sense when clicking on something not already installed
[18:27] <johnjohn101> i'm sure it will be fixed at some point.
[18:29] <trism> johnjohn101: oh bug 1189088 , seems there is a key to shut it off in comment #2
[18:34] <trism> johnjohn101: though you were right about the double click to start
[18:35] <johnjohn101> so it' can be fixed?
[18:36] <trism> johnjohn101: yeah: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity double-click-activate false;
[18:41] <johnjohn101> well it fixed it for now.  expecting it to break again!
[18:41] <johnjohn101> i wasn't worry, i know ubuntu will fix those types of things
[18:41] <johnjohn101> worried
[20:03] <SorenHolm> Hi!. Anyony running kubuntu 13.10-daily. I'm having issue with suspend to ram to being available. 'echo "mem" > /sys/power/state' works, so it is supported on my system
[20:05] <FernandoMiguel> SorenHolm: closing the lid or pm-suspend works for me
[20:05] <FernandoMiguel> but that's about it the only thing that works
[20:05] <FernandoMiguel> in terms of power management :\
[20:39] <SorenHolm> FernandoMiguel: Oh well ... I'm thing that it might be machine dependant. Do you know how KDE figures out the systems capabillities ?
[20:39] <SorenHolm> s(think/thinking/g
[21:11] <FernandoMiguel> SorenHolm: nope
[22:15] <johnjohn101> smart scopes is nice