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gotwighey05:57
gotwighow can I remove the shopping scope in 13.1005:57
gotwigI removed the more_suggestions.scope06:02
gotwighow can I calculate in unity06:28
gotwigwith smart scopes?06:28
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BluesKajHiyas all11:25
susundberg_o/11:34
BluesKajhi susundberg11:48
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gotwighey14:56
gotwigdoes someone here actually care about what I am saying14:56
Atlantic777gotwig: and what would you like to say? :)15:09
gotwigAtlantic777, it sucks that ubuntu goes standby, when I close my notebook display, right when I want to startup, or shutdown my computer!15:09
gotwigI packaged it out my case, and it was still on15:10
Atlantic777well, what do you want to happen when lid is closed? to completely shut down it or just to go to stand by (cooler is off both ways)?15:11
gotwigAtlantic777, I dont want that it suspends, when I want to shutdown my pc15:17
gotwigAtlantic777, and I close my screen. It just send a signal, DONT suspend anymore15:17
Atlantic777gotwig: so you want your computer to run normal even when you close the lid?15:18
AlanBellthat is just a power management setting, you can ask it to suspend or do nothing on battery or mains power15:19
Atlantic777or it doesn't shut down when you click the "shut down" button? sorry, i still don't understand what's the problem. :/15:19
AlanBellit does annoy me that it is possible to get into a situation where an application can dispute a suspend15:19
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AlanBellif the lid is shut it should *always* suspend with no questions asked15:20
gotwigI am talking about the fact15:21
gotwigthat when I press, shutdown, to shutdown my screen15:21
gotwigit should shutdown15:21
gotwigshutdown takes it time15:21
gotwigbut I want to move fast away15:21
gotwigso I close my screen15:21
AlanBellyeah, so set closing the lid to do nothing then15:21
gotwigwhile it shutdowns, than it goes into suspend, and I tought it would shutdown15:21
gotwigbut t doesn15:22
gotwigAlanBell, NO, only when it shutdowns15:22
AlanBellindeed, then you open it and it wakes up and carrys on shutting down15:22
gotwigAlanBell, isnt this ridicilous?15:22
AlanBellyeah, somewhat15:22
gotwigbecause it gets warm, uses electricity, etc.15:22
gotwigsome applications15:22
AlanBellso a lid shut suspend signal should do nothing if a shutdown is in progress?15:22
gotwigcan stop suspend from happening15:22
gotwigthere are options15:23
gotwigAlanBell, yeah15:23
gotwigAlanBell, same for startup15:23
gotwigthere should be a beginning, and an end, when it works15:23
Atlantic777oh so when you start shutdown process and close lid during it, it still should do shutdown and not suspend?15:23
Atlantic777interesting problem15:23
gotwigIt makes no sense, that suspend works, while the strange ubuntu dots say the pc goes down15:23
gotwigAtlantic777, you get my point :X15:24
AlanBellI don't get the startup case?15:24
gotwigthis happened to me already like 4 times15:24
gotwigI am a student, so I never have time after my lesson, and have to rush15:24
gotwigAlanBell, I dont know if its a problem15:24
gotwigmaybe I just destroyed my 13.10 setup xD15:24
gotwiglets ignore it for now..15:24
gotwigbut the shutdown thing bucks me15:24
AlanBellin order to turn on my laptop I have to open the lid anyway15:24
Atlantic777AlanBell: the problem is this situation, if I get it right. You click shutdown, close lid immedietely, it doesn't shutdown but goes to standby instead.15:25
gotwigAlanBell, the thing is, what if you want that your pc starts, and right after that goes into suspend?15:25
gotwigbecause if you do that, it doesnt work15:25
gotwigits still normaly on, even when you closed the lid15:25
gotwigbecause you closed the lid after you started the pc (?)15:26
AlanBellhmm, why would you do that?15:26
gotwigto save energy15:26
AlanBellheh15:26
gotwigand to want a PC in the standby mode?15:26
gotwigIMHO its logical.. press startup, close lid, go away, come back later, and instantly work with it15:26
Atlantic777btw, I almost never shutdown my laptop, uptime is in months and it works great :)15:28
gotwigdo you think my problem with the shutdown + close lid thing could be consired a bug?15:28
gotwigAtlantic777, I hate such statements xd15:29
gotwigenergy killer -..-15:29
Atlantic777I didn't experience loosing too much bat. energy in standby...15:29
gotwigshould I report a bug?15:30
gotwigif so, where?15:30
Atlantic777on launchpad, of course15:30
gotwigthere are more like 5000 projects15:30
gotwigjust saying.15:30
Atlantic777you report it, someone decides if it's ok or not15:30
Atlantic777anyway, launchpad is the right place for reporting a bug in ubuntu15:31
gotwig-..- so unspecific ;D15:32
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gotwigAtlantic777, do you got any URL for me?16:40
Atlantic777this one maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs16:41
Atlantic777there's an irc channel for ubuntu bugs, too16:41
gotwigAtlantic777, I know how to report bugs.. In fact I am an ubuntu member =)16:41
gotwigI just dont know what is affected, here16:41
gotwigwhich software16:41
Atlantic777oh, sorry, I didn't now... :)16:41
Atlantic777I would say power manager maybe even acpi...16:42
gotwigI am going to ask in #ubuntu-bugs16:42
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smallfoot-anyone running ubuntu+1?17:29
smallfoot-hows sauay?17:29
smallfoot-its a mess, or it works solid?17:29
bazhangsmallfoot-, it's very early days.17:30
smallfoot-ya, 2 of 6 months17:30
smallfoot-so its 1/317:30
johnjohn101"alpha 1"  next week17:33
geniismallfoot-: I'm using it with Kubuntu desktop ( KDE 4.10.4 ) ... works great17:38
geniiI do two updates a day.. one in morning, one at night... so as not to let them pile up17:38
smallfoot-oh17:39
johnjohn101i was running 13.10 but had to reload, there was an update that broke something.17:42
smallfoot-run apt-get update, then its fixed17:56
smallfoot-:D17:56
johnjohn101is there anyway to get my apps to launch from dash without hitting launch?18:04
trismjohnjohn101: if you hit enter it will launch the first result18:05
johnjohn101can't i just do it with the mouse?18:05
trismjohnjohn101: or you can use the arrow keys18:05
johnjohn101double click or somthing? it's annoying18:06
trismjohnjohn101: you should just be able to click them, did they change the dash again?18:07
johnjohn101seems like something has changed.  I pull up dash and hit the s key.  software updater comes up. i hit with mouse, it tells me what software updater is and then there is a launch button.18:08
trismjohnjohn101: hmm interesting, I'll reboot to saucy and take a look18:08
johnjohn101same with every other program18:17
trismjohnjohn101: oh I see what you meant, that is a very strange thing to do when the software is already installed, wonder if it is a bug18:26
trismjohnjohn101: it would make sense when clicking on something not already installed18:26
johnjohn101i'm sure it will be fixed at some point.18:27
trismjohnjohn101: oh bug 1189088 , seems there is a key to shut it off in comment #218:29
ubottubug 1189088 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity Dash, left mouse button starts preview instead of directly the application" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118908818:29
trismjohnjohn101: though you were right about the double click to start18:34
johnjohn101so it' can be fixed?18:35
trismjohnjohn101: yeah: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity double-click-activate false;18:36
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johnjohn101well it fixed it for now.  expecting it to break again!18:41
johnjohn101i wasn't worry, i know ubuntu will fix those types of things18:41
johnjohn101worried18:41
SorenHolmHi!. Anyony running kubuntu 13.10-daily. I'm having issue with suspend to ram to being available. 'echo "mem" > /sys/power/state' works, so it is supported on my system20:03
FernandoMiguelSorenHolm: closing the lid or pm-suspend works for me20:05
FernandoMiguelbut that's about it the only thing that works20:05
FernandoMiguelin terms of power management :\20:05
SorenHolmFernandoMiguel: Oh well ... I'm thing that it might be machine dependant. Do you know how KDE figures out the systems capabillities ?20:39
SorenHolms(think/thinking/g20:39
FernandoMiguelSorenHolm: nope21:11
johnjohn101smart scopes is nice22:15
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