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gotwig | hey | 05:57 |
gotwig | how can I remove the shopping scope in 13.10 | 05:57 |
gotwig | I removed the more_suggestions.scope | 06:02 |
gotwig | how can I calculate in unity | 06:28 |
gotwig | with smart scopes? | 06:28 |
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BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:25 |
susundberg | _o/ | 11:34 |
BluesKaj | hi susundberg | 11:48 |
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gotwig | hey | 14:56 |
gotwig | does someone here actually care about what I am saying | 14:56 |
Atlantic777 | gotwig: and what would you like to say? :) | 15:09 |
gotwig | Atlantic777, it sucks that ubuntu goes standby, when I close my notebook display, right when I want to startup, or shutdown my computer! | 15:09 |
gotwig | I packaged it out my case, and it was still on | 15:10 |
Atlantic777 | well, what do you want to happen when lid is closed? to completely shut down it or just to go to stand by (cooler is off both ways)? | 15:11 |
gotwig | Atlantic777, I dont want that it suspends, when I want to shutdown my pc | 15:17 |
gotwig | Atlantic777, and I close my screen. It just send a signal, DONT suspend anymore | 15:17 |
Atlantic777 | gotwig: so you want your computer to run normal even when you close the lid? | 15:18 |
AlanBell | that is just a power management setting, you can ask it to suspend or do nothing on battery or mains power | 15:19 |
Atlantic777 | or it doesn't shut down when you click the "shut down" button? sorry, i still don't understand what's the problem. :/ | 15:19 |
AlanBell | it does annoy me that it is possible to get into a situation where an application can dispute a suspend | 15:19 |
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AlanBell | if the lid is shut it should *always* suspend with no questions asked | 15:20 |
gotwig | I am talking about the fact | 15:21 |
gotwig | that when I press, shutdown, to shutdown my screen | 15:21 |
gotwig | it should shutdown | 15:21 |
gotwig | shutdown takes it time | 15:21 |
gotwig | but I want to move fast away | 15:21 |
gotwig | so I close my screen | 15:21 |
AlanBell | yeah, so set closing the lid to do nothing then | 15:21 |
gotwig | while it shutdowns, than it goes into suspend, and I tought it would shutdown | 15:21 |
gotwig | but t doesn | 15:22 |
gotwig | AlanBell, NO, only when it shutdowns | 15:22 |
AlanBell | indeed, then you open it and it wakes up and carrys on shutting down | 15:22 |
gotwig | AlanBell, isnt this ridicilous? | 15:22 |
AlanBell | yeah, somewhat | 15:22 |
gotwig | because it gets warm, uses electricity, etc. | 15:22 |
gotwig | some applications | 15:22 |
AlanBell | so a lid shut suspend signal should do nothing if a shutdown is in progress? | 15:22 |
gotwig | can stop suspend from happening | 15:22 |
gotwig | there are options | 15:23 |
gotwig | AlanBell, yeah | 15:23 |
gotwig | AlanBell, same for startup | 15:23 |
gotwig | there should be a beginning, and an end, when it works | 15:23 |
Atlantic777 | oh so when you start shutdown process and close lid during it, it still should do shutdown and not suspend? | 15:23 |
Atlantic777 | interesting problem | 15:23 |
gotwig | It makes no sense, that suspend works, while the strange ubuntu dots say the pc goes down | 15:23 |
gotwig | Atlantic777, you get my point :X | 15:24 |
AlanBell | I don't get the startup case? | 15:24 |
gotwig | this happened to me already like 4 times | 15:24 |
gotwig | I am a student, so I never have time after my lesson, and have to rush | 15:24 |
gotwig | AlanBell, I dont know if its a problem | 15:24 |
gotwig | maybe I just destroyed my 13.10 setup xD | 15:24 |
gotwig | lets ignore it for now.. | 15:24 |
gotwig | but the shutdown thing bucks me | 15:24 |
AlanBell | in order to turn on my laptop I have to open the lid anyway | 15:24 |
Atlantic777 | AlanBell: the problem is this situation, if I get it right. You click shutdown, close lid immedietely, it doesn't shutdown but goes to standby instead. | 15:25 |
gotwig | AlanBell, the thing is, what if you want that your pc starts, and right after that goes into suspend? | 15:25 |
gotwig | because if you do that, it doesnt work | 15:25 |
gotwig | its still normaly on, even when you closed the lid | 15:25 |
gotwig | because you closed the lid after you started the pc (?) | 15:26 |
AlanBell | hmm, why would you do that? | 15:26 |
gotwig | to save energy | 15:26 |
AlanBell | heh | 15:26 |
gotwig | and to want a PC in the standby mode? | 15:26 |
gotwig | IMHO its logical.. press startup, close lid, go away, come back later, and instantly work with it | 15:26 |
Atlantic777 | btw, I almost never shutdown my laptop, uptime is in months and it works great :) | 15:28 |
gotwig | do you think my problem with the shutdown + close lid thing could be consired a bug? | 15:28 |
gotwig | Atlantic777, I hate such statements xd | 15:29 |
gotwig | energy killer -..- | 15:29 |
Atlantic777 | I didn't experience loosing too much bat. energy in standby... | 15:29 |
gotwig | should I report a bug? | 15:30 |
gotwig | if so, where? | 15:30 |
Atlantic777 | on launchpad, of course | 15:30 |
gotwig | there are more like 5000 projects | 15:30 |
gotwig | just saying. | 15:30 |
Atlantic777 | you report it, someone decides if it's ok or not | 15:30 |
Atlantic777 | anyway, launchpad is the right place for reporting a bug in ubuntu | 15:31 |
gotwig | -..- so unspecific ;D | 15:32 |
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gotwig | Atlantic777, do you got any URL for me? | 16:40 |
Atlantic777 | this one maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs | 16:41 |
Atlantic777 | there's an irc channel for ubuntu bugs, too | 16:41 |
gotwig | Atlantic777, I know how to report bugs.. In fact I am an ubuntu member =) | 16:41 |
gotwig | I just dont know what is affected, here | 16:41 |
gotwig | which software | 16:41 |
Atlantic777 | oh, sorry, I didn't now... :) | 16:41 |
Atlantic777 | I would say power manager maybe even acpi... | 16:42 |
gotwig | I am going to ask in #ubuntu-bugs | 16:42 |
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smallfoot- | anyone running ubuntu+1? | 17:29 |
smallfoot- | hows sauay? | 17:29 |
smallfoot- | its a mess, or it works solid? | 17:29 |
bazhang | smallfoot-, it's very early days. | 17:30 |
smallfoot- | ya, 2 of 6 months | 17:30 |
smallfoot- | so its 1/3 | 17:30 |
johnjohn101 | "alpha 1" next week | 17:33 |
genii | smallfoot-: I'm using it with Kubuntu desktop ( KDE 4.10.4 ) ... works great | 17:38 |
genii | I do two updates a day.. one in morning, one at night... so as not to let them pile up | 17:38 |
smallfoot- | oh | 17:39 |
johnjohn101 | i was running 13.10 but had to reload, there was an update that broke something. | 17:42 |
smallfoot- | run apt-get update, then its fixed | 17:56 |
smallfoot- | :D | 17:56 |
johnjohn101 | is there anyway to get my apps to launch from dash without hitting launch? | 18:04 |
trism | johnjohn101: if you hit enter it will launch the first result | 18:05 |
johnjohn101 | can't i just do it with the mouse? | 18:05 |
trism | johnjohn101: or you can use the arrow keys | 18:05 |
johnjohn101 | double click or somthing? it's annoying | 18:06 |
trism | johnjohn101: you should just be able to click them, did they change the dash again? | 18:07 |
johnjohn101 | seems like something has changed. I pull up dash and hit the s key. software updater comes up. i hit with mouse, it tells me what software updater is and then there is a launch button. | 18:08 |
trism | johnjohn101: hmm interesting, I'll reboot to saucy and take a look | 18:08 |
johnjohn101 | same with every other program | 18:17 |
trism | johnjohn101: oh I see what you meant, that is a very strange thing to do when the software is already installed, wonder if it is a bug | 18:26 |
trism | johnjohn101: it would make sense when clicking on something not already installed | 18:26 |
johnjohn101 | i'm sure it will be fixed at some point. | 18:27 |
trism | johnjohn101: oh bug 1189088 , seems there is a key to shut it off in comment #2 | 18:29 |
ubottu | bug 1189088 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity Dash, left mouse button starts preview instead of directly the application" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189088 | 18:29 |
trism | johnjohn101: though you were right about the double click to start | 18:34 |
johnjohn101 | so it' can be fixed? | 18:35 |
trism | johnjohn101: yeah: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity double-click-activate false; | 18:36 |
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johnjohn101 | well it fixed it for now. expecting it to break again! | 18:41 |
johnjohn101 | i wasn't worry, i know ubuntu will fix those types of things | 18:41 |
johnjohn101 | worried | 18:41 |
SorenHolm | Hi!. Anyony running kubuntu 13.10-daily. I'm having issue with suspend to ram to being available. 'echo "mem" > /sys/power/state' works, so it is supported on my system | 20:03 |
FernandoMiguel | SorenHolm: closing the lid or pm-suspend works for me | 20:05 |
FernandoMiguel | but that's about it the only thing that works | 20:05 |
FernandoMiguel | in terms of power management :\ | 20:05 |
SorenHolm | FernandoMiguel: Oh well ... I'm thing that it might be machine dependant. Do you know how KDE figures out the systems capabillities ? | 20:39 |
SorenHolm | s(think/thinking/g | 20:39 |
FernandoMiguel | SorenHolm: nope | 21:11 |
johnjohn101 | smart scopes is nice | 22:15 |
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