| bennis | hey, i installed firefox from the tar.gz file they give you, but i can't get flash (also from the tar.gz) to work... a lack of instruction in this regard i think. Anybody know a good tutorial for putting firefox/flash on ubuntu GNOME remix 12.10? | 03:30 |
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| jbicha | bennis: Ubuntu GNOME comes with Firefox, please don't use a .tar.gz to install it | 03:34 |
| jbicha | https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.html | 03:34 |
| bennis | interesting, i don't see a firefox that comes with this... all i see is 'web'. which doesn't support flash according to several google searches... perhaps you are unclear as to what OS i'm running? ubuntu GNOME remix 12.10 | 03:36 |
| jbicha | oh, 12.10 comes with Web, 13.04 comes with Firefox | 03:38 |
| bennis | yep, going to download 13.04 as soon as i've an opportunity | 03:38 |
| jbicha | 13.04 is a bit easier to use as it also comes with Ubuntu Software Center which is an easy way to install software | 03:39 |
| bennis | just doing this on a non-tech friend's machine, and he wants to watch youtube so i got firefox, downloaded the flash .so file, and dumped itt everywhere i found an so file in firefox's install directory :P | 03:39 |
| bennis | i've gotten used to apt-get | 03:39 |
| bennis | but i didn't want to funkify the repos | 03:39 |
| jbicha | sudo apt-get install firefox | 03:41 |
| jbicha | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer | 03:41 |
| bennis | yeah, still doesn't work on 12.10 :P | 03:41 |
| bennis | though it would if i added the conventional ubuntu 12.10 repo | 03:42 |
| mister2 | hey, anybody know why flashplugin-installer isn't found in my current software sources on a live 13.04 session? | 07:01 |
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| mister2 | Hi all! I have a wee issue installing the flashplugin-installer found in the ubuntu software center in ubuntu GNOME remix 13.04. It's listed as not in my software sources. I checked the universe under software sources, but i didn't see any apt lines under that tab... | 14:00 |
| mister2 | rather, the tab next to it where the apt lines should be, just don't recall what it was called | 14:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mister2: (We're not a remix anymore) Are you looking for the "Other Software" tab? | 14:02 |
| mister2 | No, i don't think so. | 14:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mister2: It's in Canonical Partners I think. | 14:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mister2: The flashplugin-installer package anyway | 14:04 |
| mister2 | hm, well i checked all except the experimental boxes on the software sources main thing, but under the Other Software tab (where the PPAs should be listed, right?) it's blank. | 14:05 |
| mister2 | and it's listed in ubuntu software center, but apt doesn't see it at all | 14:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh dear. | 14:05 |
| mister2 | OH, i'm on a live thing. is that a problem? | 14:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mister2: Live image? You'll need to manually enable it. | 14:05 |
| bjsnider | install the package adobe-flashplugin | 14:05 |
| mister2 | lack of a hard drive adds issues | 14:05 |
| bjsnider | from partner | 14:05 |
| mister2 | i'll look for it, but i haven't seen it, and i apt cache searched for adobe and flash with grep to filter... | 14:06 |
| mister2 | sonikkuamerica how would i manual enable what now? | 14:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | bjsnider: He doesn't have partner in the Live image software sources for some reason... I think that's what he means. | 14:06 |
| mister2 | yeah, i have no ppas listed, i was going to ask on the #ubuntu channel for the default ppas cause google brings up SO MUCH random not useful but interesting things. | 14:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Tack these lines onto /etc/apt/sources.list (use gedit or nano with sudo): (a) deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner (b) deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner | 14:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mister2: Except replace "maverick" with "raring" | 14:07 |
| mister2 | excellent, exactly what i was looking for | 14:08 |
| mister2 | thanks :D | 14:08 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Then run [ sudo apt-get update ] and then install the Flash plugin. | 14:08 |
| bjsnider | why is flash an issue if you're using a livecd? | 14:08 |
| mister2 | because it's a permanent live cd | 14:08 |
| mister2 | no internal HDD | 14:08 |
| mister2 | i feel like we talked about this last night on #ubuntu | 14:08 |
| bjsnider | i don't know who "we" is | 14:10 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Neither do I; I wasn't here last nite | 14:10 |
| bjsnider | i hope you have permanent uptime with this kind of setup otherwise you'll have to do all of this again | 14:10 |
| mister2 | we would be bjsnider, and yes, i have persistence enabled | 14:10 |
| bjsnider | i'm not in the channel you mentioned | 14:11 |
| mister2 | alright, i said i thought | 14:11 |
| bjsnider | you don't even have a flash drive for storage? | 14:12 |
| mister2 | oh, no i'm using two usb drives, one for the OS one for personal files | 14:12 |
| bjsnider | well, that's permanent storage isn't it? | 14:13 |
| mister2 | yes? | 14:13 |
| bjsnider | since you can download stuff you can just directly download the adobe-flashplugin deb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/11.2.202.291-0raring1 | 14:13 |
| mister2 | did i say it wasnt? | 14:13 |
| mister2 | meh, having a repo setup could be useful in future | 14:13 |
| mister2 | it's not my computer, the person using it might need some sort of program and not be able to install it due to no repos | 14:14 |
| mister2 | also is there a way to disable the fancy boot up graphics and just have the standard text output like the older linuxes used? | 14:16 |
| mister2 | i'm just not sure where to look for the setting | 14:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | mister2: In /etc/default/grub, put a stick of dynamite near anything that says "quiet splash", save it, and light the darned thing with [ sudo update-grub ] | 14:18 |
| mister2 | awesome, thanks :D | 14:19 |
| bjsnider | strange request | 14:19 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The dynamite is that Backspace key on your keyboard of course :) | 14:19 |
| mister2 | oh, i was thinking it was a # | 14:19 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Well you could comment the line out, but if there's any other command param listed there it also goes up in flames (it's not common to though) | 14:20 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Does the "install alongside" option still not work in the stable Live images? The bug mentioned on the site says it's for 13.04 Beta 2. | 14:29 |
| mister2 | i've no idea, haven't tried to install anything myself. | 14:30 |
| jbicha_ | SonikkuAmerica: as far as I know bug 1164592 is still unfixed | 15:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1164592 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity freezes in Install Alongside screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164592 | 15:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha_: Well looks like I'll be running a test of my own. Ubuntu GNOME is broken beyond repair and I also have a Fedora that doesn't work in another partition... I'mma try it tomorrow. | 15:35 |
| jbicha_ | SonikkuAmerica: will you be trying Saucy or Raring, we definitely know that Raring is broken for that option | 15:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha_: I can try both if you want, I'll have time to grab and deploy both images | 15:37 |
| jbicha_ | if it doesn't work, you can try if the advanced partioner works to resize | 15:37 |
| SonikkuAmerica | All right. | 15:37 |
| jbicha_ | and if that still doesn't work, you can probably boot a Ubuntu live image and use gparted to set up the partitions the way you like (in case it's resizing that doesn't work) | 15:38 |
| jbicha_ | and then try Ubuntu GNOME | 15:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha_: I might actually do the gparted resizing in Fedora, because it recognizes the ext4 partition there. | 15:38 |
| SonikkuAmerica | But first I have to fix Fedora. | 15:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I'll also try both via Grml Rescue System and dd'd media. | 15:40 |
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| levela | hiho guys | 18:32 |
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| aamer | hello room, Application menu in gnome classic: (I'm using compiz and cairo dock), the gnome classic application menu has those two arrows (on top and bottom) that will show the rest of the menu items on mouse-over, i just want to increase the menu length. anyone? | 19:28 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: Frankly, I've never seen that problem with the Apps menu. | 19:29 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica I'm seeing it in different ways each time i change the theme, should i send you a screenshot? | 19:30 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: I guess, if you think it would help... | 19:33 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica can't take a screenshot while the application menu is active! | 19:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | O_o | 19:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You can't hit the PrintScreen button? | 19:40 |
| aamer | I mean when another window is in focus, i can take screenshots but not when the menu is in focus, yes I can hit the PrintScreen button, but usually when I hit it i get a camera click effect and get the screenshot saved to the pictures directory, but when the menu is in focus nothing happens, and I tried to paste in GIMP but it said there's no image data in the clipboard. | 19:42 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica | 19:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Hmm. Let me check somethign. | 19:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | *something | 19:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: That's odd, I can't do the same thing either. | 19:44 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: What's your screen res? | 19:44 |
| aamer | 1280*1024 | 19:44 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica | 19:44 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK that shouldn't be a problem then... I have a 1024x768 res... | 19:44 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: running a vm? | 19:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I'm not | 19:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | This is a frugal install. | 19:45 |
| aamer | well, linux is not just frugal it's also a really good OS | 19:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Linux isn't an OS; it's a kernel :) Ubuntu, Debian, openSUSE, Fedora, Red Hat - they're all really Linux | 19:47 |
| aamer | which ubuntu r u running? | 19:48 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 | 19:48 |
| aamer | and fell back to gnome classic? | 19:48 |
| aamer | :D | 19:48 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Who, me? Not really; I keep GNOME Classic (shell extensions) for historical purposes but I usually use the shell | 19:49 |
| aamer | I wish i could enable the dash on gnome classic it's a lot better | 19:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | It's still there... | 19:49 |
| aamer | yeah but i couldn't find a way to run it from gnome classic | 19:50 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Apps > Activities Overview or stick the mouse in the upper-left corner | 19:50 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: Oh, wait... are you using 3.6? | 19:50 |
| aamer | only the shell, not the launcher | 19:50 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: GNOME 3.4 | 19:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: Are you using 12.10? | 19:51 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: 12.04 LTS | 19:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh wow. Then you still have Fallback mode. I have 3.8 from the PPA | 19:52 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: yes I have that feature of sticking the mouse on the top-left corner, but not in gnome classic session, but in GNOME. | 19:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK. I see where you're going. Are you having the problem you're having in Shell mode or Fallback mode then? | 19:53 |
| aamer | fall back | 19:54 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ohhhh... | 19:54 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I don't really think we can help you then... meantime, try Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 with the GNOME 3 PPA added so that you have 3.8 | 19:54 |
| aamer | I can update GNOME to 3.8 and still use 12.04 LTS can't I? however, I prefer the GNOME Classic it's a lot faster and I don't want any of the features provided in the new GNOME Shell, because I'm using 3rd. party apps to get the rest i.e. compiz, cairo-dock... SonikkuAmerica. | 19:57 |
| SonikkuAmerica | If you prefer GNOME Classic, maybe you should give the MATE desktop a try. http://mate-desktop.org/ | 19:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The fact is, though, that fallback mode is dead to the GNOME people. | 20:00 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: no lol I tried it last week and decided that I should never use mint again, i even deleted the iso, although i kept open-suse, ubuntu 12.04, 13.04 and more than 10 other distros... | 20:01 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: take a look at this, and tell me what u think | 20:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Ubuntu with MATE != Linux Mint... lol | 20:01 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Other options might be Cinnamon or XFCE. | 20:02 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What's "this"? | 20:02 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: i used LMDE, I tried Cinnamon and didn't like the menu, in LMDE I think things are messed up in the Synaptic Package Manager, I think ubuntu is a LOT better. | 20:03 |
| aamer | after all, ubuntu is built on Debian, so why do ppl say Debian edition is better?! | 20:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | aamer: LMDE is closer to Debian though... | 20:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Debian isn't a commercial distro like Ubuntu is. | 20:04 |
| aamer | you're right... | 20:04 |
| SonikkuAmerica | And a lot of people think Ubuntu is trying to become the Microsoft Windows of Linux. | 20:05 |
| aamer | but for a newbie like me, or say a desktop user, I liked ubuntu | 20:05 |
| aamer | :) | 20:05 |
| aamer | I think ubuntu is closer to the Mac than to Windows | 20:05 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Linux itself is; both are UNIX-based | 20:05 |
| aamer | u know, not only the unity menu, but the simplicity, the elegance, | 20:06 |
| aamer | yep | 20:06 |
| aamer | that's one of the reasons why... | 20:06 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I can't say it's hard to get used to. I just tried Fedora for the heck of it and it's almost as easy as Ubuntu, but (a) it isn't as software-intensive and (b) it uses gnome-packagekit, which is every GNOME user's hell. | 20:06 |
| aamer | anyways | 20:06 |
| aamer | yesssssss that's why i didn't like it toooo! | 20:07 |
| SonikkuAmerica | :) | 20:07 |
| aamer | u know what | 20:08 |
| aamer | i think open SUSE with KDE is something | 20:08 |
| aamer | that's closer to Windows, but better I think | 20:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I think we're getting a little !ot here though... let's try #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | !ot | 20:09 |
| ubot5 | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 20:09 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8697/screenshotfrom201306132.png | 20:22 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh that's right, you're using cairo-dock. | 20:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You might ask in there. | 20:24 |
| SonikkuAmerica | /join #cairo-dock | 20:24 |
| aamer | SonikkuAmerica thank you man | 20:25 |
| aamer | Application menu in gnome classic: (I'm using compiz and cairo dock), the gnome classic application menu has those two arrows (on top and bottom) that will show the rest of the menu items on mouse-over, i just want to increase the menu length. anyone? | 21:38 |
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