[03:30] hey, i installed firefox from the tar.gz file they give you, but i can't get flash (also from the tar.gz) to work... a lack of instruction in this regard i think. Anybody know a good tutorial for putting firefox/flash on ubuntu GNOME remix 12.10? [03:34] bennis: Ubuntu GNOME comes with Firefox, please don't use a .tar.gz to install it [03:34] https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.html [03:36] interesting, i don't see a firefox that comes with this... all i see is 'web'. which doesn't support flash according to several google searches... perhaps you are unclear as to what OS i'm running? ubuntu GNOME remix 12.10 [03:38] oh, 12.10 comes with Web, 13.04 comes with Firefox [03:38] yep, going to download 13.04 as soon as i've an opportunity [03:39] 13.04 is a bit easier to use as it also comes with Ubuntu Software Center which is an easy way to install software [03:39] just doing this on a non-tech friend's machine, and he wants to watch youtube so i got firefox, downloaded the flash .so file, and dumped itt everywhere i found an so file in firefox's install directory :P [03:39] i've gotten used to apt-get [03:39] but i didn't want to funkify the repos [03:41] sudo apt-get install firefox [03:41] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer [03:41] yeah, still doesn't work on 12.10 :P [03:42] though it would if i added the conventional ubuntu 12.10 repo [07:01] hey, anybody know why flashplugin-installer isn't found in my current software sources on a live 13.04 session? === jbicha is now known as Guest30774 === Guest30774 is now known as jbich_ === jbich_ is now known as jbicha_ [14:00] Hi all! I have a wee issue installing the flashplugin-installer found in the ubuntu software center in ubuntu GNOME remix 13.04. It's listed as not in my software sources. I checked the universe under software sources, but i didn't see any apt lines under that tab... [14:01] rather, the tab next to it where the apt lines should be, just don't recall what it was called [14:02] mister2: (We're not a remix anymore) Are you looking for the "Other Software" tab? [14:04] No, i don't think so. [14:04] mister2: It's in Canonical Partners I think. [14:04] mister2: The flashplugin-installer package anyway [14:05] hm, well i checked all except the experimental boxes on the software sources main thing, but under the Other Software tab (where the PPAs should be listed, right?) it's blank. [14:05] and it's listed in ubuntu software center, but apt doesn't see it at all [14:05] Oh dear. [14:05] OH, i'm on a live thing. is that a problem? [14:05] mister2: Live image? You'll need to manually enable it. [14:05] install the package adobe-flashplugin [14:05] lack of a hard drive adds issues [14:05] from partner [14:06] i'll look for it, but i haven't seen it, and i apt cache searched for adobe and flash with grep to filter... [14:06] sonikkuamerica how would i manual enable what now? [14:06] bjsnider: He doesn't have partner in the Live image software sources for some reason... I think that's what he means. [14:07] yeah, i have no ppas listed, i was going to ask on the #ubuntu channel for the default ppas cause google brings up SO MUCH random not useful but interesting things. [14:07] Tack these lines onto /etc/apt/sources.list (use gedit or nano with sudo): (a) deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner (b) deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner [14:07] mister2: Except replace "maverick" with "raring" [14:08] excellent, exactly what i was looking for [14:08] thanks :D [14:08] Then run [ sudo apt-get update ] and then install the Flash plugin. [14:08] why is flash an issue if you're using a livecd? [14:08] because it's a permanent live cd [14:08] no internal HDD [14:08] i feel like we talked about this last night on #ubuntu [14:10] i don't know who "we" is [14:10] Neither do I; I wasn't here last nite [14:10] i hope you have permanent uptime with this kind of setup otherwise you'll have to do all of this again [14:10] we would be bjsnider, and yes, i have persistence enabled [14:11] i'm not in the channel you mentioned [14:11] alright, i said i thought [14:12] you don't even have a flash drive for storage? [14:12] oh, no i'm using two usb drives, one for the OS one for personal files [14:13] well, that's permanent storage isn't it? [14:13] yes? [14:13] since you can download stuff you can just directly download the adobe-flashplugin deb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/11.2.202.291-0raring1 [14:13] did i say it wasnt? [14:13] meh, having a repo setup could be useful in future [14:14] it's not my computer, the person using it might need some sort of program and not be able to install it due to no repos [14:16] also is there a way to disable the fancy boot up graphics and just have the standard text output like the older linuxes used? [14:16] i'm just not sure where to look for the setting [14:18] mister2: In /etc/default/grub, put a stick of dynamite near anything that says "quiet splash", save it, and light the darned thing with [ sudo update-grub ] [14:19] awesome, thanks :D [14:19] strange request [14:19] The dynamite is that Backspace key on your keyboard of course :) [14:19] oh, i was thinking it was a # [14:20] Well you could comment the line out, but if there's any other command param listed there it also goes up in flames (it's not common to though) [14:29] Does the "install alongside" option still not work in the stable Live images? The bug mentioned on the site says it's for 13.04 Beta 2. [14:30] i've no idea, haven't tried to install anything myself. [15:34] SonikkuAmerica: as far as I know bug 1164592 is still unfixed [15:34] bug 1164592 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity freezes in Install Alongside screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164592 [15:35] jbicha_: Well looks like I'll be running a test of my own. Ubuntu GNOME is broken beyond repair and I also have a Fedora that doesn't work in another partition... I'mma try it tomorrow. [15:36] SonikkuAmerica: will you be trying Saucy or Raring, we definitely know that Raring is broken for that option [15:37] jbicha_: I can try both if you want, I'll have time to grab and deploy both images [15:37] if it doesn't work, you can try if the advanced partioner works to resize [15:37] All right. [15:38] and if that still doesn't work, you can probably boot a Ubuntu live image and use gparted to set up the partitions the way you like (in case it's resizing that doesn't work) [15:38] and then try Ubuntu GNOME [15:38] jbicha_: I might actually do the gparted resizing in Fedora, because it recognizes the ext4 partition there. [15:39] But first I have to fix Fedora. [15:40] I'll also try both via Grml Rescue System and dd'd media. === SonikkuAmerica is now known as Guest42206 === SonikkuAmerica2 is now known as SonikkuAmerica [18:32] hiho guys === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy [19:28] hello room, Application menu in gnome classic: (I'm using compiz and cairo dock), the gnome classic application menu has those two arrows (on top and bottom) that will show the rest of the menu items on mouse-over, i just want to increase the menu length. anyone? [19:29] aamer: Frankly, I've never seen that problem with the Apps menu. [19:30] SonikkuAmerica I'm seeing it in different ways each time i change the theme, should i send you a screenshot? [19:33] aamer: I guess, if you think it would help... [19:39] SonikkuAmerica can't take a screenshot while the application menu is active! [19:39] O_o [19:40] You can't hit the PrintScreen button? [19:42] I mean when another window is in focus, i can take screenshots but not when the menu is in focus, yes I can hit the PrintScreen button, but usually when I hit it i get a camera click effect and get the screenshot saved to the pictures directory, but when the menu is in focus nothing happens, and I tried to paste in GIMP but it said there's no image data in the clipboard. [19:42] SonikkuAmerica [19:42] Hmm. Let me check somethign. [19:42] *something [19:44] aamer: That's odd, I can't do the same thing either. [19:44] aamer: What's your screen res? [19:44] 1280*1024 [19:44] SonikkuAmerica [19:44] OK that shouldn't be a problem then... I have a 1024x768 res... [19:45] SonikkuAmerica: running a vm? [19:45] I'm not [19:45] This is a frugal install. [19:47] well, linux is not just frugal it's also a really good OS [19:47] Linux isn't an OS; it's a kernel :) Ubuntu, Debian, openSUSE, Fedora, Red Hat - they're all really Linux [19:48] which ubuntu r u running? [19:48] Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 [19:48] and fell back to gnome classic? [19:48] :D [19:49] Who, me? Not really; I keep GNOME Classic (shell extensions) for historical purposes but I usually use the shell [19:49] I wish i could enable the dash on gnome classic it's a lot better [19:49] It's still there... [19:50] yeah but i couldn't find a way to run it from gnome classic [19:50] Apps > Activities Overview or stick the mouse in the upper-left corner [19:50] aamer: Oh, wait... are you using 3.6? [19:50] only the shell, not the launcher [19:51] SonikkuAmerica: GNOME 3.4 [19:51] aamer: Are you using 12.10? [19:51] SonikkuAmerica: 12.04 LTS [19:52] Oh wow. Then you still have Fallback mode. I have 3.8 from the PPA [19:53] SonikkuAmerica: yes I have that feature of sticking the mouse on the top-left corner, but not in gnome classic session, but in GNOME. [19:53] OK. I see where you're going. Are you having the problem you're having in Shell mode or Fallback mode then? [19:54] fall back [19:54] Ohhhh... [19:54] I don't really think we can help you then... meantime, try Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 with the GNOME 3 PPA added so that you have 3.8 [19:57] I can update GNOME to 3.8 and still use 12.04 LTS can't I? however, I prefer the GNOME Classic it's a lot faster and I don't want any of the features provided in the new GNOME Shell, because I'm using 3rd. party apps to get the rest i.e. compiz, cairo-dock... SonikkuAmerica. [19:59] If you prefer GNOME Classic, maybe you should give the MATE desktop a try. http://mate-desktop.org/ [20:00] The fact is, though, that fallback mode is dead to the GNOME people. [20:01] SonikkuAmerica: no lol I tried it last week and decided that I should never use mint again, i even deleted the iso, although i kept open-suse, ubuntu 12.04, 13.04 and more than 10 other distros... [20:01] SonikkuAmerica: take a look at this, and tell me what u think [20:01] Ubuntu with MATE != Linux Mint... lol [20:02] Other options might be Cinnamon or XFCE. [20:02] What's "this"? [20:03] SonikkuAmerica: i used LMDE, I tried Cinnamon and didn't like the menu, in LMDE I think things are messed up in the Synaptic Package Manager, I think ubuntu is a LOT better. [20:04] after all, ubuntu is built on Debian, so why do ppl say Debian edition is better?! [20:04] aamer: LMDE is closer to Debian though... [20:04] Debian isn't a commercial distro like Ubuntu is. [20:04] you're right... [20:05] And a lot of people think Ubuntu is trying to become the Microsoft Windows of Linux. [20:05] but for a newbie like me, or say a desktop user, I liked ubuntu [20:05] :) [20:05] I think ubuntu is closer to the Mac than to Windows [20:05] Linux itself is; both are UNIX-based [20:06] u know, not only the unity menu, but the simplicity, the elegance, [20:06] yep [20:06] that's one of the reasons why... [20:06] I can't say it's hard to get used to. I just tried Fedora for the heck of it and it's almost as easy as Ubuntu, but (a) it isn't as software-intensive and (b) it uses gnome-packagekit, which is every GNOME user's hell. [20:06] anyways [20:07] yesssssss that's why i didn't like it toooo! [20:07] :) [20:08] u know what [20:08] i think open SUSE with KDE is something [20:09] that's closer to Windows, but better I think [20:09] I think we're getting a little !ot here though... let's try #ubuntu-offtopic [20:09] !ot [20:09] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [20:22] SonikkuAmerica: http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8697/screenshotfrom201306132.png [20:24] Oh that's right, you're using cairo-dock. [20:24] You might ask in there. [20:24] /join #cairo-dock [20:25] SonikkuAmerica thank you man [21:38] Application menu in gnome classic: (I'm using compiz and cairo dock), the gnome classic application menu has those two arrows (on top and bottom) that will show the rest of the menu items on mouse-over, i just want to increase the menu length. anyone? === jbicha is now known as Guest26134