[11:27] <DJones> Hmmh, I wondered why 'penos' sounded familiar, a couple of bantracker entries for trolling
[11:28] <k1l_> yep
[11:28] <k1l_> he starts to visit us since some weeks
[11:28] <k1l_> again
[11:34] <k1l_> i told him to stop trolling and sticking to the guidelines in query. but no respons
[11:38] <DJones> He seems to have stopped anyway, maybe your pm and me telling him to stop in channel have made him aware he's being watched
[11:39] <k1l_> i think he is just taking a breath to start again. but anyway, we will see
[11:48] <elky> yeah he's an ongoing issue
[11:50] <Tm_T> rings my bells, and that comes from relatively long time ago
[16:51] <bazhang> yeah. why not just say: 1 gb ram, intel video card or whatever
[17:35] <bazhang> troll detected
 Hey why is Ubuntu so bad?
[17:40] <bazhang> server side of ubuntu is closed source?
[17:40] <bazhang> or is that trolling a troll
[17:41] <jbroome> what constitutes "server side"?
[17:41] <bazhang> DJones, ^
[17:41] <DJones> I misread the question, I thought they were asking about Ubuntu One
[17:41] <bazhang> hahahaha
[17:41] <DJones> Ah well, troll the troll :) even if it is accidently
[17:42] <DJones> Wonder how long they'll spend trying to track that info down
[17:48] <bazhang> anyone who calls the bot bad deserves  a b
[17:49] <bazhang> crunchbang is like a less flexible lubuntu
[17:49] <Pici> That bot is so annoying. I wish it would stop giving me the information I need.
[17:49] <bazhang> hah
[17:49] <bazhang> if you make the smallest change to crunchbang, it's screwed
[17:50] <bazhang> lxde/openbox yeah, but very rigidly set
[17:51] <DJones> Ilhami> do they have a channel? ..... Its questions like that when I think it should be allowable to say "Have you googled it?"
[17:51] <bazhang> hah
[17:52] <bazhang> we have the !alis command for that one
[17:52] <bazhang> changeover seems to be a puppy dev or something
[17:58] <bazhang> if he's told about the -dev channel, he will just spam that
[17:58] <bazhang> how many lines of spam are in #ubuntu from me before I get removed?
 get a new computer
[18:07] <bazhang> brilliant support advice
[19:22] <bazhang> .
[19:22] <bazhang> .
[19:22] <bazhang> .
[19:24] <DJones> Has your troll detector gone off yet
[19:24] <bazhang> hehe
[19:25] <bazhang> it's on overdrive, so unreliable at this point
[19:26] <bazhang> sufficiently clueless users are indistinguishable from trolls
[19:26] <Pici> aye
[19:27] <bazhang> paraphrasing Arthur C. Clarke
[19:29] <genii> I think he he's on his phone and hits Enter when the text starts disapppearing on the left as he types
[19:32] <bazhang> yet he never once acknowledged any of the many many warnings given
[19:32] <bazhang> more than half a dozen
[19:41] <bazhang> autoremove accepts arguments?
[19:42] <genii> Dunno, never tried to feed it any before
[19:59] <genii> My piece-o-crap router is overheating and cutting out.
[19:59] <bazhang> mine is acting up as well
[19:59] <bazhang> it's odd that IRC keeps working when dns fails
[19:59] <bazhang> ie using Firefox or the like
[20:05] <tsimpson> you don't need DNS once you're already connected to the network, it's a constant connection
[20:06] <tsimpson> or even once it's in your DNS cache
 woooohoooooo!  is this the actual Ubuntu IRC?  and what are floodbots?  those dont sound good
[20:09] <bazhang> thanks tsimpson
[20:11] <DJones> Why do people join and ask what are floodbots without seeing them in action, I can only assume that its somebody who already knows and is trolling, its not as if they stand out in amongst the other 1600 user
[20:11] <bazhang> yeah that was odd
[20:12] <Pici> DJones: Because they're opped and they show up at the top of the userlist on some clients.
[20:12] <tsimpson> they are +o many clients do show that
[20:12] <DJones> There's been a couple of people done that in the last couple days or so, all asking what are the floodbots when they join
[20:44] <genii> For someone new that all they generally know is that the bots they've heard about aren't all that great, like adbots or callbots etc, one named floodbot sounds like it might start suddenly raining bots
 "dont think I would follow any guide from 2007" -- the bot gave that guide, the bot is outdated -- i say we break it
 break the bot, its the crap i couldnt tell from quality i was referring to earlier
[21:07] <bazhang> thats way past +b imo
[22:24] <genii> bazhang: I do think the tinyurl link from !install should be gotten rid of, that's the 2007 instantfundas link. Since we have "installing without a CD" as part of the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  page
[22:24] <genii> !install
[22:25] <genii> ubottu: install is <reply> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall -  See also !automate
[22:25] <genii> ubottu: no install is <reply> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate
[22:26] <Unit193> If you're looking at factoids, there were some recommendations in -irc yesterday.
[22:27] <genii> Unit193: I was going through them ages ago and making a list, but then I got busy at work for a long time, it went dormant, etc
[22:34] <bazhang> yep looks good
[22:35] <genii> Unit193: In fact, I just found the page again: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/FactoidCleanup
[22:37] <Unit193> genii: Nice!  Just note that number of calls doesn't include ubot# just ubottu.  (Going through it now.)
[22:45] <genii> Unit193: If you have a log of the recommendations, could you email them to me and I can maybe append the wiki list