| EDocToor | How do I create a group called 'nobody' ;;; when I type sudo chown -hR root:nobody /pub ;;; Error chown: invalid group: 'root:nobody' | 00:32 |
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| sarnold | EDocToor: if you want the files to be readable only by root, then root:root would be a better choice | 00:34 |
| EDocToor | I am creating a : nobody for my samba to access one directory on my lan | 00:35 |
| EDocToor | can a group nobody be created | 00:35 |
| sarnold | better would be to create a group with a more descriptive name :) who will use it? | 00:35 |
| EDocToor | as this tutorial assumes that I have knownledge | 00:36 |
| EDocToor | https://calomel.org/samba.html | 00:36 |
| EDocToor | is it addgroup? | 00:37 |
| sarnold | "The windows machines are going to access samba shares as the "nobody" user." *sigh* | 00:38 |
| sarnold | I'd find a better guide | 00:38 |
| EDocToor | LOL | 00:38 |
| sarnold | hrm, I thought for sure I had a nice long description on stackoverflow of something horribly stupd on that page, but google isn't finding it for me. thanks goog. | 00:39 |
| EDocToor | I love stackoverflow | 00:39 |
| EDocToor | I am edoctoor there as well | 00:39 |
| EDocToor | I created a script for adding a bot to a channel | 00:40 |
| EDocToor | using windows | 00:40 |
| EDocToor | Ok, when I search pages I get a lot of samba4 info... do you have a better tutorial or are you going to tell me the stupid part to avoid | 00:43 |
| EDocToor | PLEASE... oops forgot to nod my head and ask politely | 00:44 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: samba4 isn't yet in main, I'd suggest avoiding it for the time being. Obviously you're welcome to use it and file bugs :) but it probably won't be as reliable as samba3-based packages | 00:45 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: I don't know a better guide, but feel free to run away from just about anything that ever suggests you to use the 'nobody' user or 'nobody' group for anything. they're almost certainly wrong. :) | 00:45 |
| EDocToor | Yes, I have read about the END LESS loop of errors that follows samba4 | 00:45 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: you can probably create a new group for this use, 'windows' or 'shared' or something.. | 00:46 |
| EDocToor | and how would I do that Master | 00:46 |
| EDocToor | addgroup shared | 00:47 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: I think that's fine.. | 00:47 |
| EDocToor | I typed addgroup --help and none of it makes any sense as I am not knownledgeable with the terms | 00:48 |
| EDocToor | Awesome.. | 00:48 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: don't forget 'man addgroup' -- manpages often have examples and better descriptions of options... | 01:01 |
| EDocToor | sarnold, I am so glad that you mentioned that... I so forgot about the man manuals... thanks | 01:15 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: man -k is also wonderful, it'll search the manpage names and short descriptions to find relevant manpages -- try man -k compression for a good example :) | 01:16 |
| EDocToor | YES... this is exactly the tools I need... and I forgot that it was there... now when someone says "RTFM" I will know where the manual is.. I was to embarrassed to ask after such a comment | 01:21 |
| EDocToor | awesome so -k is like an peek to the subtitles so that you have // I have an Idea if I am opening the right manual... awesome tip... | 01:26 |
| === Overand_ is now known as Overand | ||
| EDocToor | Help: I wanted to create a backup root admin user called lets say 'cow' just incase I did something stupid like lock out my default root user.. I don't want to reinstall my whole server because I am learning passwd and chgpasswd commands... ::: That known; can anyone here assist me into creating a root level secondary user .. I have don't some reading.. but I almost locked myself out.. as described.. and would rather how to do it | 02:59 |
| EDocToor | ... then be here asking how to fix my admin mistakes | 02:59 |
| EDocToor | what I have done so far | 03:00 |
| EDocToor | adduser --system cow | 03:01 |
| EDocToor | adduser cow sudo | 03:01 |
| EDocToor | but when I reboot and login with cow | 03:01 |
| EDocToor | and give password | 03:01 |
| EDocToor | the screen flickers and returns to the LOGIN screen | 03:02 |
| EDocToor | could it be because cow doesn't have an non-admin login set | 03:02 |
| bradm | EDocToor: you told it to create a user with shell /bin/false when you used the --system option, so what you're describing is expected behaviour | 03:03 |
| bradm | EDocToor: if you type getent passwd cow as another user you should see the shell is /bin/false | 03:03 |
| EDocToor | bradm, arrrrrrrrrgh... | 03:03 |
| EDocToor | k | 03:03 |
| bradm | EDocToor: something like usermod -s /bin/bash cow should change its shell | 03:04 |
| EDocToor | Exactly | 03:04 |
| EDocToor | bradm, ok done.. now when I type 'getent passwd cow' it shows /home/cow:/bin/bash | 03:07 |
| EDocToor | can I reboot now and test? | 03:08 |
| bradm | EDocToor: great - you should be able to login now | 03:08 |
| EDocToor | Thanks.. I was afraid to do anything.. ;;; I really apreacate it ... and I have locked myself out before.. not kidding | 03:09 |
| EDocToor | have a great /day/night/afternoon | 03:09 |
| EDocToor | depending where you are | 03:09 |
| bradm | no worries, you too | 03:10 |
| EDocToor | OMG.. your awesome bradm ... that worked as expected..... | 03:13 |
| bradm | good to hear. | 03:15 |
| EDocToor | one more.. before I get back at it... say I am logged in as root user 'cat' can I set the 'passwd cow' ? | 03:15 |
| bradm | when you say root user, what do you mean? | 03:16 |
| bradm | its a user who can sudo? | 03:16 |
| EDocToor | has admin right | 03:16 |
| EDocToor | yes | 03:16 |
| bradm | sudo passwd cow | 03:16 |
| EDocToor | Time to go and play... thanks again everyone... | 03:18 |
| mop | I have an 'unkown TCP' process run by root on nethogs. Should I be worried? | 03:31 |
| mop | also nethogs seems to get like 15% of cpu usage | 03:34 |
| === oleg is now known as Guest17482 | ||
| pii3 | Hi | 07:24 |
| pii3 | i want to setup ubuntu as a gateway and capture all traffics passing from my gateway and Log them all for on year | 07:24 |
| pii3 | i need to log all URL in http and https and for other protocols just source and destination address | 07:25 |
| byprdct | Hey guys what do I use if I want to use a password instead of a identityfile in my .ssh/config file? | 08:18 |
| byprdct | I tried Password but doesnt work | 08:18 |
| exnntech | Looking for multiple IP help | 08:55 |
| exnntech | Hey | 08:56 |
| exnntech | Won't lie, this channel is a bit dead | 08:56 |
| soren | byprdct: You can't. Also, why would you do that? | 08:59 |
| Daviey | byprdct: What are you trying to achieve ? | 09:01 |
| Daviey | exnntech: multiple IP help? | 09:01 |
| exnntech | Need Ubuntu server to have ip's 66.45.***.*** and 176.***.***.** | 09:02 |
| exnntech | Any idea how? | 09:03 |
| greppy | exnntech: edit /etc/network/interfaces | 09:05 |
| greppy | if you need more info 'man interfaces' | 09:05 |
| exnntech | Cheers, only used this for a week so bit of a noob | 09:06 |
| exnntech | Still don't know what I'm doing :P | 09:13 |
| exnntech | .. | 09:23 |
| === huats_ is now known as huats | ||
| jcastro | utlemming: we don't have any doc pages on vagrant do we? | 13:12 |
| jcastro | like workflows, etc. | 13:12 |
| === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood | ||
| girl | hi | 14:14 |
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| === ^rcaskey is now known as rcaskey | ||
| zul | jamespage/yolanda: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-quantumclient/README-fix/+merge/169216 | 14:23 |
| utlemming | smoser: Bug 1189571 has updated branches for Quantal and Raring. Validation on the updated branches is done. | 14:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1189571 in isc-dhcp "[SRU] "Unable to set up timer: out of range" caused by bad 64_bit timer" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1189571 | 14:53 |
| Siebjee | Does anyone has experienced strange unexplainable performance differences between Dell PowerEdge M420's ? | 14:54 |
| === medberry is now known as med_ | ||
| smoser | utlemming, i'll take a look at that now. | 15:18 |
| smoser | one question for you, utlemming | 15:18 |
| smoser | have you done any work on that "*.json -> index.json" ? | 15:18 |
| smoser | (ie, for simpelstreams index.js merging stuff) | 15:18 |
| smoser | i'm interested in using it for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/maas/netinst2ss/changes | 15:19 |
| === Jikan is now known as Jikai | ||
| utlemming | smoser: yes, I have, incidently. I was just switching gears to get that done. I think I just need to integrate it. | 15:20 |
| smoser | roaksoax, rbasak ^ your feedback on that simplestreams stuff would be appreciated. | 15:20 |
| smoser | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761763/ is what the streams file looks like. | 15:23 |
| smoser | that'd be mirrored (with the files) some where. | 15:23 |
| smoser | netinst2ss just scrapes archive data (checks signatures, downloads ... ) | 15:24 |
| smoser | rbasak, it is currently void of arm stuff | 15:24 |
| smoser | which is kind of why i'm asking your input | 15:24 |
| smoser | note, 'kernel-release' is there as 'base' meaning "precise if release is precise" | 15:26 |
| rbasak | smoser: thoughts, as they come into my head | 15:26 |
| rbasak | smoser: any plans on signature verification? | 15:26 |
| smoser | to differenciate it from quantal netboot kernel/intiramfs for installing precise (which is available, but I explicitly skip it at the moment) | 15:26 |
| smoser | rbasak, yes. obviously we'd add .sjson there also | 15:27 |
| smoser | its also missing 'size' on the items... | 15:27 |
| smoser | which is good ot have, but i have to http-stat all the urls to get it, and that just slows the process down | 15:27 |
| smoser | rbasak, i also dont know where i would get installer kernel/initramfs info for arm | 15:28 |
| smoser | found it. | 15:29 |
| smoser | [DIR]linaro-vexpress/23-Apr-2012 20:04 - | 15:29 |
| smoser | [DIR]omap/23-Apr-2012 20:04 - | 15:29 |
| smoser | bah | 15:29 |
| smoser | http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armel/current/images/ | 15:30 |
| smoser | so i'd have to also hit ports.ubuntu for arm stuff. | 15:30 |
| smoser | netinst2ss would need additional support for that. | 15:30 |
| rbasak | smoser: sorry, I need to go afk for a bit. I'll get back to you. And about that other thing. Tomorrow I promise :) | 15:31 |
| roaksoax | smoser: looks good to me, and for my purposes i guess it is sort of enough infromation | 15:31 |
| === Jikai is now known as Jikan | ||
| === Jikan is now known as Jikai | ||
| === Jikai is now known as Jikan | ||
| smoser | roaksoax, for your purposes, at the moment you can just basically know tha tofr a release, you're interested in 'base.generic.initrd' | 15:58 |
| smoser | at the moment. that name might change.. but once we're settled, it wont | 15:58 |
| roaksoax | smoser: ok cool. Yeah wont start working on it right away so I don | 16:00 |
| roaksoax | smoser: ok cool. Yeah wont start working on it right away so I don't need it right now :) | 16:01 |
| smoser | roaksoax, if you need want to play with it, you can just branch that, run it, and then point the sync at the 'out.d' that it creates. | 16:02 |
| smoser | ie, out.d as the reote source | 16:02 |
| roaksoax | smoser: ok cool, so I guess we will be consuming those scripts in maas-import-* | 16:02 |
| roaksoax | smoser: r will those files be available on the mirrors | 16:03 |
| smoser | the data in 'out.d' will be available on some irror | 16:04 |
| smoser | either maas.ubuntu.com or cloud-images.ubuntu.com or possibly cdiamge.ubuntu.com (or somethign to that affect) | 16:04 |
| roaksoax | smoser: ok cool | 16:05 |
| smoser | but largely that doesn't atter, you just will sync with *some remote source* that looks like that (where 'remote' can even be local filesystem) | 16:05 |
| smoser | the sstream-sync doesn't care if it is file:/// or http:/// | 16:05 |
| roaksoax | yeah | 16:05 |
| roaksoax | smoser: so these scripts will be packaged them and consumable | 16:05 |
| roaksoax | by maas-scripts* | 16:05 |
| smoser | sstream-sync is in raring, but not in a super great state.. | 16:06 |
| roaksoax | smoser: i see, cause initially I thought to manually access the json files in the mirrors from maas-improt-p* beucase that way we don't depend on any external tool not within maas | 16:06 |
| smoser | the wway i'd at leat like to pursue is that some program 'maas-import-ephemeral' invokes 'sstream-sync' (which then hooks to another progra (or possibly the first) to do the work). | 16:07 |
| smoser | if that isn't deeed suitalle (usage of sstream-sync) , then we could write a Mirror class like (GlanceMirror) in python and use it from maas | 16:08 |
| roaksoax | smoser: right, but TBH it makes no sense to keep maas-import-pxe-files and maas-import-ephemerals, and I was hoping to merge thouse together and in python | 16:08 |
| smoser | either case, maas will depend on simplestreams. | 16:08 |
| roaksoax | ok | 16:09 |
| smoser | look at the way tools/hook-check-downloads works. | 16:09 |
| smoser | you invoke 'hook-check-downloads', it invokes sstream-sync and tells sstream-sync (via cmdline flags) to call it back to operate on 'insert item' and such. | 16:10 |
| roaksoax | right | 16:11 |
| === koolhead17 is now known as koolhead11 | ||
| bananapie | hey, I just compiled a software using make and make install. It dumped some so files in /usr/local/lib/ and when I run the executable it can't find the files that are in the said directory. I added a .conf file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ which points to that folder. Do I have to run a script or something so that it updates? | 17:01 |
| bananapie | I have to run ldconfig | 17:03 |
| bananapie | thanks | 17:03 |
| autif | I am installing 12.04 server - xubuntu ISO is able to detect network drivers, while ubuntu-server ISO does not. Can I install server with networking using additional tools? | 17:41 |
| patdk-lap | able to detect network drivers? | 17:42 |
| patdk-lap | are you using 12.04? 12.04.1 or 12.04.2? | 17:42 |
| autif | patdk-lap: 12.04.2 | 17:45 |
| autif | I meant detect network hardware | 17:46 |
| patdk-lap | well, that should have it, maybe try 12.04.1? | 17:46 |
| autif | xubuntu was 12.04 - will try server 12.04 instead of 12.04.2 | 17:48 |
| TriJetScud | is it just me or does ubuntu server's oem-config package do really need all of those dependencies on a text-only server? | 18:03 |
| TriJetScud | http://pastebin.com/Vb1gr4cQ | 18:04 |
| TriJetScud | that pastebin for refrence if somebody is interested | 18:05 |
| Slyboots | Hello :) | 18:05 |
| Slyboots | lHaving some problems with an install of Ubuntu-server 12 :( Process goes through the entire process but fails when it tries to install the GRUB boot-loader. Its a 6x Disk system and, due to how its listing the disks I've installed Ubuntu onto /dev/sde, Grub by default goes to /dev/sda and fails | 18:06 |
| Slyboots | If I force it to /dev/sde, when the system reboots I.. just got a blinking underscore (no GRUB loader) | 18:07 |
| Slyboots | Im kind of stumped as to what I should do. I would ahve figured installing gRUB on the MBR of /dev/sde should work but... | 18:08 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: does your BIOS need to know which drive to boot as well? | 18:09 |
| Slyboots | Im nmot sure.. its a HP Microserver so its bios is a bit.... odd | 18:10 |
| Slyboots | Mm, hold on, it is something that simple.. | 18:13 |
| Slyboots | DOh, yea that was it :P | 18:14 |
| Slyboots | wrong disk set to firstboot in bios | 18:14 |
| sarnold | yay :) | 18:15 |
| Slyboots | Uh.. maybe not | 18:16 |
| Slyboots | "/boot is not available or mount failed" | 18:16 |
| Slyboots | lol.. | 18:16 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: yay :) that's a forward step. | 18:18 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: did you put your /boot into a raid5 or raid6 or something? grub is particular about what it can read. | 18:18 |
| Slyboots | no only 1 disk contains the OS, its a very basic flat /dev/sde1 is boot in ext4 and /dev/sde2 is / | 18:19 |
| Slyboots | lathough oddly the system still booted OK | 18:19 |
| Slyboots | Just told it to skip tryingto mount /boot and after afew seconds I was at the login screen | 18:19 |
| sarnold | o_O | 18:23 |
| Slyboots | Hm.. how do you get the UUID for a disk, maybe fstab id wrongt | 18:23 |
| Slyboots | .. somehow | 18:23 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: run blkid (as root; I understand it can return stale results if run as non-root) | 18:25 |
| Slyboots | Yea.. fstab was wrong | 18:25 |
| Slyboots | Thats pretty weird.. | 18:25 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: the /dev/sd[abcde] order can change based on .. well, presumably adding / removing drives or controllers, maybe other situations | 18:26 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: perhaps it was correct at one point and is now wrong. | 18:26 |
| Slyboots | This is its first boot ^_^ | 18:26 |
| sarnold | haha | 18:26 |
| sarnold | /dev/disk/by-*/ symlinks are nice | 18:26 |
| Slyboots | But just updated the UUID entry to the correct value and.. its good | 18:26 |
| Slyboots | sarnold, I thought that wa the point of UUID's that they should never change | 18:27 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: indeed, uuids shouldn't. | 18:27 |
| Slyboots | I guess the installer got a bit chewed up somehow | 18:27 |
| === robawt is now known as drinksailorjerry | ||
| sarnold | (my pal who complained about the stale values was complaining about it -after- formatting the drives with a new filesystem) | 18:28 |
| === drinksailorjerry is now known as robawt | ||
| Slyboots | Mmm | 18:28 |
| Slyboots | Right, so.. | 18:28 |
| Slyboots | Do I use btrfs.. | 18:28 |
| Slyboots | or ZFS | 18:28 |
| Slyboots | Shoot tahts right.. cant use btrfs -.- | 18:31 |
| === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy | ||
| EDocToor | Hello everyone; I have a brand new server and wonder if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaServerGuide is the guide that applies to configuring samba on Ubuntu Server... I ask this question as I don't know if this guide only applies to the GUI Ubuntu... or... maybe you could reply with a link to configure Samba (the samba that was installed during the install) | 18:50 |
| RoyK | EDocToor: ubuntu server doesn't come with gui | 19:07 |
| === koolhead11|away is now known as koolhead17 | ||
| RoyK | EDocToor: is this a single server, or do you have something like ldap or active directory around for authentication? | 19:08 |
| Slyboots | Is there not a easy way to repeat a command several times in succession but change the values each time | 19:10 |
| Slyboots | For exampe, in this case, I need to run the command "zfs create tank/$VALUE" where value changes each time | 19:11 |
| EDocToor | RoyK, I understand that Ubuntu Server is Command line.. .. I am looking for a beginner tutorial to configure samba on a server so that my XP and other UBuntu can share files | 19:11 |
| Slyboots | So do you ahve to just keep retyping and retyping.. | 19:11 |
| Slyboots | This comes up ALL the fecking time x.x | 19:11 |
| EDocToor | Slyboots, do you mean... UP ARROW | 19:12 |
| Slyboots | EDocToor, No I do not mean up-arrow | 19:12 |
| RoyK | or perhaps "for i in 1 2 3 4; do asdf $i ; done" | 19:12 |
| EDocToor | by bad | 19:12 |
| Slyboots | It would be preferable if I coudl so something like "zfs create tank/$value1,$value2.." | 19:12 |
| RoyK | Slyboots: pretty basic scripting | 19:12 |
| RoyK | Slyboots: why are you creating several pools? | 19:13 |
| RoyK | or was that filesystems? | 19:13 |
| RoyK | "datasets" | 19:13 |
| Slyboots | its a ZFS filesystem, different datasets for differnet datasets | 19:13 |
| Slyboots | :D | 19:13 |
| RoyK | for i in data rubbish porn private; do zfs create tank/$i ; done | 19:13 |
| Slyboots | lol | 19:13 |
| Slyboots | are you watching my console? :P | 19:13 |
| RoyK | :D | 19:13 |
| EDocToor | hehe | 19:14 |
| Slyboots | RoyK, Ah neat thats handier | 19:14 |
| RoyK | Slyboots: using zfsonlinux or zfs fuse? | 19:15 |
| Slyboots | zfsonlinux | 19:15 |
| RoyK | ok | 19:15 |
| Slyboots | ITs a little funky, their package doesnt bother checking if you have the kernel-headers installed :P | 19:15 |
| Slyboots | So it was broken when I installed it heh | 19:15 |
| RoyK | considering it myself after some bad data happens to come from a drive and I can't sort out which drive's bad... | 19:15 |
| RoyK | chose md because of flexibility, but seems that's overstated | 19:16 |
| Slyboots | Yea I couldnt be bothered building a mdadm array and waiting forever till it builds | 19:16 |
| Slyboots | I've used it in Nas4free and the like and its quite nice, although i dont use things like Dedup | 19:16 |
| RoyK | I don't care about build time, but I do care about data quality | 19:16 |
| Slyboots | Too memory hungry | 19:16 |
| RoyK | zfs dedup is rather hungry, yes | 19:17 |
| * RoyK has worked with zfs on open{indiana|solaris} for some years with half a peta of storage | 19:17 | |
| * Slyboots nods "I was curuis to try brtfs but it doesnt have RAID5/6 style support yet, so it was a no-go | 19:18 | |
| jcastro | it does now | 19:18 |
| lifeless | jcastro: orly? | 19:18 |
| RoyK | it does | 19:19 |
| lifeless | jcastro: just a few months back it was still only mirror capable | 19:19 |
| jcastro | yeah, I haven't tried a live migration yet | 19:19 |
| Slyboots | mm | 19:19 |
| jcastro | yep, it landed last major kernel release I think? let me look it up | 19:19 |
| RoyK | but it doesn't assemble disks autoamtically on boot | 19:19 |
| RoyK | which somewhat takes the fun away | 19:19 |
| lifeless | jcastro: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#Can_I_use_RAID.5B56.5D_on_my_Btrfs_filesystem.3F | 19:19 |
| jcastro | yeah, linux 3.9 | 19:19 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: maybe also this would work: zfs create tank/{foo,bar,baz} -- the shell does some expansions like that in handy ways | 19:19 |
| lifeless | jcastro: 'The first drop of the code, in experimental form, is in the 3.9 kernel.' | 19:19 |
| lifeless | jcastro: I don't like the sound of that :> | 19:19 |
| Slyboots | sarnold, I'll give it a little try | 19:19 |
| lifeless | jcastro: goes on to say 'This is currently only suitable for testing, as it is known to not be crash-safe, and many important (or even vital) features are missing.' | 19:20 |
| RoyK | I tried it - wasn't too stable | 19:20 |
| jcastro | lifeless: nor me, which is why I'm sitting on my RAID1 mirrors still, though I might snag another HP Microserver to play with it | 19:20 |
| Slyboots | sarnold, hehyy, that works doo! | 19:20 |
| Slyboots | Thats even handier :) | 19:20 |
| lifeless | jcastro: gotta love the microservers. | 19:21 |
| jcastro | lifeless: "I solved my RAID4/6 problem by using 2 servers and Ceph instead with disks way bigger than I intended." | 19:21 |
| jcastro | I mean Raid5/6 of course | 19:21 |
| sarnold | Slyboots: and sometimes, after you've run a command, you can use ^foo^bar to make a change: try this, ls -l /etc -- then ^etc^var | 19:21 |
| Slyboots | ... | 19:22 |
| Slyboots | *mind* *blown* | 19:22 |
| * Slyboots scribbles this stuff down | 19:22 | |
| Slyboots | Hrm.. wait that cant be right | 19:23 |
| Slyboots | 5.28TB available with 6x 2TB disks? | 19:23 |
| RoyK | yes, difference between TB and TiB | 19:24 |
| RoyK | 1TB ~= .9TiB | 19:24 |
| RoyK | linux reports TiB, like most platforms | 19:24 |
| RoyK | try du -H | 19:24 |
| RoyK | erm | 19:24 |
| RoyK | df -H | 19:24 |
| Slyboots | How does 5 2TB disks only equal 5.28 o.O | 19:24 |
| Slyboots | Tahts nearly half the storage missing o.O | 19:25 |
| RoyK | Slyboots: reported from zpool status? | 19:25 |
| Slyboots | by zfs list | 19:25 |
| RoyK | pastebin zpool status | 19:25 |
| RoyK | and zfs list | 19:25 |
| Slyboots | I see the problem.. I made a Raidz2 array | 19:25 |
| Slyboots | Only supposed to be raidz :P | 19:25 |
| Slyboots | (2x parity, instead of 1) | 19:25 |
| RoyK | raidz2 is good (tm) | 19:25 |
| RoyK | since sector errors usually are observed during rebuild | 19:26 |
| Slyboots | Meh, not fo rmy use. I keep backups of everything and theres nothing "critical" | 19:26 |
| RoyK | so better add another driev or two | 19:26 |
| RoyK | ok | 19:26 |
| RoyK | go on :) | 19:26 |
| Slyboots | hehe, the machines already full to the gills with disks :P | 19:26 |
| RoyK | small sas 92xx controller, external sas expander, lots of drives => lots of storage | 19:27 |
| Slyboots | haha, its a little HP Microserver for my media collection :) | 19:28 |
| Slyboots | I've already had to hijack the eSATA port so I had a disk to install the OS ^_^ | 19:28 |
| Slyboots | I just keep mt TV/Movies.. some backups.. photos.. and anything thats not easly replaced I keep backed up to a external SATA disks | 19:28 |
| Slyboots | But RAIDz2 would be nice.. but Im not sure I Can justfiy the sizable drop in space | 19:29 |
| RoyK | zfs can handle some bad sectors without kicking the drive out | 19:30 |
| RoyK | but keep in mind to enable ERC if it's supported | 19:30 |
| RoyK | or increase drive timeout | 19:30 |
| Slyboots | Hmm | 19:31 |
| Slyboots | Well theses are WD "Red NAS" disks | 19:31 |
| RoyK | WD Red supports ERC | 19:31 |
| RoyK | Slyboots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5762473/ | 19:31 |
| RoyK | this is rather failproof | 19:31 |
| Slyboots | cool :) | 19:32 |
| RoyK | put that in /etc/rc.local | 19:32 |
| RoyK | perhaps I should have crafted one that parses /proc/partitions | 19:32 |
| RoyK | but then - you might want deep recovery for a single root drive | 19:32 |
| Slyboots | Hm? | 19:33 |
| RoyK | deep recovery is the mode of most desktop drives | 19:33 |
| RoyK | it can spend up to two minutes trying to recover a single sector | 19:33 |
| RoyK | doesn't work well in a raid setup | 19:33 |
| RoyK | the raid will kick out the drive rather early | 19:33 |
| Slyboots | Yea by that time it'll assume the disk is dead and drop it | 19:33 |
| RoyK | turning on ERC makes the drive return errors instead of timing out, which is fine in a raid setup, since it's got redundancy | 19:34 |
| Slyboots | Good tip, thanks :) | 19:34 |
| Slyboots | Oooh.. SATA port multipliers arnt cheap | 19:35 |
| RoyK | and they somewhat suck | 19:35 |
| RoyK | better get a good sas controller | 19:35 |
| RoyK | doesn't cost a lot more, and delivers far more bandwidth | 19:35 |
| Slyboots | heh, 2TB SAS disks would be nice but that .. quire require a lot more money, and pretty much a new setup | 19:35 |
| RoyK | the 1068-based controllers from LSI are rather cheap on ebay atm, but they don't support drives >2TiB | 19:36 |
| RoyK | you can connect SATA drives to a SAS controller, no problem | 19:36 |
| RoyK | just not the other way around | 19:36 |
| Slyboots | Holy crap LOL | 19:36 |
| Slyboots | £435 for a 2TB SAS? :P | 19:36 |
| Slyboots | Pass :P | 19:37 |
| RoyK | did you read what I just wrote above? | 19:37 |
| Slyboots | Oh right, hm intresting | 19:37 |
| RoyK | that price seems a bit high - in Norway, things usually cost a bit more, and I find this drive at NOK 1699 - http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=646289 - GBP 187 | 19:39 |
| RoyK | that's with 25% VAT | 19:39 |
| RoyK | so perhaps you were checking the wrong site? | 19:39 |
| Slyboots | I just happened to look at eBuyer | 19:39 |
| RoyK | GBP 150+vat | 19:40 |
| RoyK | not a lot more, and supports full duplex and better error handling | 19:40 |
| Slyboots | thats quite a bit cheaper, but yea.. would be overkill for my needs :D | 19:40 |
| RoyK | and better timing | 19:40 |
| RoyK | and ... | 19:40 |
| RoyK | still, you can attach SATA stuff to a SAS controller | 19:40 |
| RoyK | via a SAS expander or direct attach | 19:41 |
| Slyboots | Its certinally something to keep in mind, so would install a SAS card and attach a SAS expander | 19:42 |
| Slyboots | then just plug the disks int ito? | 19:42 |
| RoyK | yes | 19:43 |
| RoyK | or just attach the drives to the sas interface | 19:43 |
| RoyK | sas emulates sata | 19:43 |
| RoyK | no need for an expander | 19:43 |
| RoyK | the expander is just there if you need more drives attached to that controller | 19:43 |
| Slyboots | yea the SAS cards seem quite cheap actually on ebay | 19:44 |
| Slyboots | Like IBM ones etc for £20 | 19:45 |
| Slyboots | for.. *whistle* 8 more drive ports :D just need a caddy to contain the disks heh | 19:45 |
| Slyboots | Oh thats actually intresting :) my Microserver uses SAS already | 19:46 |
| Slyboots | (SAS cable to a SATA .. "rank" | 19:46 |
| Slyboots | *rack | 19:46 |
| RoyK | mhm - some 8087 plug | 19:46 |
| RoyK | or 8086 - don't remember | 19:46 |
| RoyK | external plug is the infiniband plug | 19:47 |
| Slyboots | Aye, just need a half-hight card (Dont think this thing is big enough for a full sized) | 19:47 |
| RoyK | they are mostly half-height, those I've seen | 19:47 |
| RoyK | meaning, they come with a second bracket | 19:47 |
| Slyboots | Its certinally a tempting idea, I hadnt considered this before | 19:47 |
| Slyboots | You dont know of any cheap ish sort of.. hodler, that you coudl put the disks into (cause, disks still need power) | 19:48 |
| RoyK | card comes with an 8087 plug (iirc) and you need a splitter to split those 4 sata buses into separate cables | 19:48 |
| Slyboots | AYe I've seen a few of the auctions on ebay with the SATA splitter. The only trick is still power though | 19:49 |
| RoyK | there are some 4-drives-in-3-5,25"-bay shelves around | 19:49 |
| RoyK | takes four sata connectors and some power and offers hotplug capabilities (given the OS driver supports it) | 19:49 |
| Slyboots | hehe, do they have actual names? | 19:49 |
| Slyboots | You mean like hot-swap bays? | 19:50 |
| RoyK | yes | 19:50 |
| RoyK | but external or internal? | 19:50 |
| Slyboots | Well Im thinking if I installed a SAS card and jacked in.. another 4 disks lets say. It would be nice to just have a container to hold the disks and provide power to em | 19:51 |
| RoyK | try ebay or something | 19:51 |
| RoyK | there are several | 19:51 |
| Slyboots | Aye Im just trying to figure out the name for searching | 19:51 |
| Slyboots | Ah heres something, 5-bay enclosure | 19:52 |
| Slyboots | about £50ish odd quid.. | 19:53 |
| RoyK | url? | 19:53 |
| Slyboots | expencive for what it is but still in the "Tempting" side of things | 19:53 |
| Slyboots | http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0&_nkw=sata+hot-swap&_sacat=0&_from=R40 | 19:53 |
| Slyboots | Seem to be SATA / eSATA enclosures with power to the disks | 19:54 |
| RoyK | this one? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONNET-ENC-SATA-DT4-B-Fusion-400-External-Hot-Swap-4-port-Sata-Hard-drive-cage-/300916636732?pt=UK_Collectables_HardDriveEnclosures_RL&hash=item4610077c3c | 19:54 |
| Slyboots | Yea I mean they are about that price | 19:54 |
| Slyboots | I think thats the sort of thing I would want/need | 19:54 |
| Slyboots | Just plug that in, wire up the drives to the SAS card.. Lots-a-storage | 19:55 |
| RoyK | probably better if you find a chassis that takes an 8087 in the arse | 19:55 |
| Slyboots | haha, yea that might be better but Im just thinking from "This is the sort of thing I should be looking at" ratther than that specific model | 19:56 |
| Slyboots | Ahh Backplane, think thats the right name for em | 19:58 |
| RoyK | backplane is just a switchboard | 19:58 |
| Slyboots | Its a very tempting idea, maybe when payday comes around and my pet is no longer dying from metal poisoning I can think about it :P | 19:59 |
| Slyboots | hehe | 19:59 |
| Slyboots | I would be badly tempted to wipe the backup disks and just intergrate them all into the array in a big raid2z or whatever array | 20:00 |
| Slyboots | .. all that storrage lol | 20:01 |
| Slyboots | I dont know what I would do with it :P | 20:01 |
| * RoyK is more than slightly tempted to replace md with zfs after seeing silent errors only detected by ext4's metadata checksumming | 20:02 | |
| Slyboots | Aye I've notcied a few of my videos taht I've known where good copies have tiny ammouts of corruption | 20:02 |
| Slyboots | Wa quite shocking, espically as even a little on video is super noticable | 20:02 |
| RoyK | did you see that zfs presentation? | 20:03 |
| RoyK | http://wiki.illumos.org/download/attachments/1146951/zfs_last.pdf | 20:04 |
| RoyK | only problem with zfs is that you have to give away flexibility for safety | 20:04 |
| Slyboots | aye you cant "grow" an array | 20:05 |
| Slyboots | That is kidna fustrating | 20:05 |
| RoyK | you can add more VDEVs as in single drives or raidz? or something, but not extend a VDEV | 20:05 |
| RoyK | or you can replace every drive with a larger one | 20:06 |
| Slyboots | You can create another "Pool" and merge them together.. but you cant say.. jam in a single 2tb disk and grow your main pool | 20:06 |
| RoyK | then, eventually, it'll grow | 20:06 |
| Slyboots | Its a little bit odd | 20:06 |
| RoyK | and since the drive producers are only three now, they tend to keep the prices high and no larger drives have appeared for almost two years | 20:07 |
| RoyK | no, it's not corruption, it's just craftmanchip, as if :P | 20:07 |
| Slyboots | heh | 20:07 |
| keithzg | Arghh. I hate MySQL so, so much. Read the logs? Oh, they're binary. Okay, cool there's a utility to read those....oh, despite being processed by mysqlbinlog the actual events are still written in binary not plaintext, so I still can't see the actual events, only the header comments. Sigh. | 21:19 |
| * keithzg suspects this might just be due to his company using MySQL as a backend for Fogbugz and Access 2000. | 21:20 | |
| EDocToor | hi... I am still researching samba and anything IP confuses the crap out of me.. So I am going to politely ask for help.. or hints.. I am trying to share files from my Ubuntu Server to my Ubuntu with GUI.. What I have done is: smb.conf comment=Home Directories; browseable=yes;read only=no.. $ sudo smbpasswd -a cow $ sudo smbpasswd -e cow $ sudo smbd reload "temp enabled router DMZ" $ sudo chmod 0750 /home $ sudo chmod 0766 /home/ | 21:55 |
| EDocToor | cow/Downloads $ sudo chown cow:cow Downloads... On the other GUI Ubuntu the error is Cannot display location cow@cow/home/cow/Downloads | 21:55 |
| EDocToor | Failed to mount windows share | 21:55 |
| EDocToor | I have done a lot of research.. it is that I am not that bright | 21:56 |
| Slyboots | This is such a pain in the ass | 22:15 |
| Slyboots | Trying to get fuckign permissions working right with a windows client -.- | 22:15 |
| Slyboots | Beh, going to bed. | 22:17 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: can you pastebin the output of ls -l /home /home/cow /home/cow/Downloads ; ps auxw | grep -i smb | 22:17 |
| EDocToor | sarnold... guess I should get ssh going first so I have access to paste bin | 22:29 |
| EDocToor | ok... thanks | 22:29 |
| EDocToor | I'll put samba on the shelve for now | 22:29 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: the 'pastebinit' package is also pretty useful :) | 22:29 |
| EDocToor | nice | 22:29 |
| EDocToor | brb | 22:29 |
| EDocToor | awesome first time with pastebinit http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763009/ | 22:40 |
| EDocToor | Notice the Download folder/directory does not show | 22:41 |
| EDocToor | my bad | 22:42 |
| EDocToor | I must have done something wrong | 22:42 |
| EDocToor | let me do it again.. I rushed ... | 22:42 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: that might be because /home/edoc/Downloads is owned by root:root, not edoc:edoc | 22:43 |
| EDocToor | awwwwwwww | 22:44 |
| EDocToor | it is | 22:44 |
| EDocToor | something else strange | 22:44 |
| EDocToor | when I type edoc# ls -l Downloads | 22:44 |
| EDocToor | it displays | 22:45 |
| EDocToor | when I type edoc# ls -l /home/edoc/Downloads | 22:45 |
| EDocToor | it doesn't | 22:45 |
| EDocToor | I am having fun... | 22:45 |
| EDocToor | thanks | 22:45 |
| EDocToor | I can not see BLUE on a BLACK screen.. so I might have done a mistake | 22:47 |
| sarnold | no one can see blue on black :) I've tried a dozen times, it never works. hehe. :) | 22:47 |
| EDocToor | I will change it to yellow later | 22:47 |
| EDocToor | but that is how the default setup displays folders | 22:47 |
| EDocToor | I have the tutorial loaded... just haven't got there yet | 22:48 |
| EDocToor | sarnold, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763039/ | 22:58 |
| thumper | hallyn: ping | 23:00 |
| thumper | hmm... 6pm | 23:01 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: ~edoc/Downloads/ is now edoc:edoc 766 -- this means only edoc and root can read or write files in Downloads, and everyone can get directory listings of downloads.. | 23:04 |
| EDocToor | sarnold, I take it ... that isn't what I want.. ;-) | 23:06 |
| EDocToor | smbclient -L 192.168.1.121 ... looks good and I can see a printers folder.. I just can not get my /home/edoc/Download folder to show up on client | 23:10 |
| EDocToor | oh... and I take it that I should $ sudo chmod 0750 /home | 23:11 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: or leave it at the default 755 | 23:12 |
| EDocToor | yes... 755 was the default... but I read that I should add /etc/adduser.conf | 23:15 |
| EDocToor | DIR_MODE=0750 | 23:15 |
| EDocToor | as that is too advanced for me... | 23:15 |
| sarnold | that makes it significantly harder to share files among users on a system | 23:15 |
| EDocToor | I see that... | 23:15 |
| sarnold | fine if you want to prevent sharing :) but most places are fine to store private things in a directory under home with 700 permissions | 23:16 |
| EDocToor | My goal is to KISS and learn to slowly get more complicated | 23:16 |
| EDocToor | brb.. thanks | 23:17 |
| JoeBlacken | Hi, how can I disable boot messages in Ubuntu 12.04, I already disabled the splash, I also want to remove the text messages from boot | 23:21 |
| sarnold | JoeBlacken: adding loglevel=0 to your kernel command line (grub or whatever bootloader..) might help cut down on some | 23:25 |
| sarnold | JoeBlacken: look in the linux kernel's Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt file for more details | 23:25 |
| JoeBlacken | sarnold, is there a way to do that without re-compiling the kernel? | 23:26 |
| sarnold | JoeBlacken: just edit your kernel command line wherever it is set and reboot | 23:27 |
| JoeBlacken | sarnold, thank you, I will try that | 23:27 |
| === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away | ||
| JoeBlacken | sarnold, it worked, thank you again | 23:30 |
| sarnold | JoeBlacken: woo :) | 23:33 |
| EDocToor | sarnold, every day I am getting a tiny bit smarter.. thanks.. Note: I still haven't got it.. but I like to grind a bit before I dig here... I think I am missing a line in the smb.conf that tells samba what folder to share | 23:35 |
| EDocToor | bbl | 23:35 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: step #2 here.. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html | 23:36 |
| EDocToor | sarnold, tanks a million ;-) | 23:37 |
| EDocToor | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt Nope this isn't is.. I can see the prompt.. I want to change the default DIRECTORY COLOR... can that be my next step | 23:39 |
| EDocToor | LOL | 23:39 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: man ls, you'll see the environment variable name in there... | 23:40 |
| EDocToor | perfect.. let me do some work.. but tell me what to read | 23:41 |
| EDocToor | so I get used to finding help within Ubuntu | 23:41 |
| EDocToor | ha ha man -k ls wow | 23:42 |
| EDocToor | I had no idea | 23:42 |
| sarnold | EDocToor: the manpage for dircolors, then your ~/.bashrc file | 23:42 |
| EDocToor | dircolors | 23:42 |
| EDocToor | cake | 23:43 |
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