[05:35] morning [06:52] good morning [07:00] haaui [07:37] morning magespawn and others [07:40] hey Kilos, sleeping late? [07:41] sorry [07:42] just asking if you were sleeping late, it is good ifbnot well [07:43] ya just slept in somehow and then had to rush to get sheeps concentrates mixed [07:43] so pc had to wait [07:43] pc are good at that. [07:44] hahaha [07:45] they are not impatient at all, and sheep need attention [07:45] yeah [07:45] hyows things there magespawn ? [07:46] how too [07:46] ice in water here again [07:46] sigh [07:46] busy with a Department of Education meeting as a member of the SGB. [07:47] ah well hear what they ngotta say [07:51] does not bode well, was supposed to start at 09:00 [07:52] oh my [08:13] good morning [08:13] Maaz: coffee on [08:13] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:17] Coffee's ready for charl! [08:17] Maaz: thanks [08:17] charl: No problem [08:18] hi charl [08:23] hmm... [08:28] goeie more Kilos [08:28] lo inetpro [08:31] haai [08:31] hi Vince-0 [08:37] hi Xethron [08:37] hi Kilos [08:38] sorry connection dropped... seems like ipv6 on the wifi here is unstable [08:38] it's a new thing though, they're probably still working on it [08:38] can only get better [08:40] Kilos: are you over the flu?? [08:41] nope charl but much better [08:41] good to hear [08:41] still the runny nose and cough [08:41] ty [08:41] i have a stomach bug that has been bothering me for the last month [08:41] it isn't serious but it just doesn't seem to want to leave [08:42] i need to go to a meeting, bbl === Xethron_ is now known as Xethron [11:01] hi tonberryE352 superfly [11:05] Hey Kilos, looks like the net is still sick. [11:06] yip [11:11] is it twitter thats blocked the clients from working there [11:11] what would be the reason for that [11:12] i wonder if that guy got the grub prob fixed [11:12] shame [11:14] we can only hope so [11:14] yes twitter on their side stopped the version 1 access [11:14] swines [11:18] there could be all sorts of reasons for that [11:20] i see there a new twitter app called birdie [11:21] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/new-linux-twitter-app-birdie [11:22] just havent found when they said it was new yet [11:23] might be worth a try [11:24] looking at it now [11:24] do not usually us the pc for that sort of thing, do it all through the phone and tablet [11:24] how is this for a dodgy site? http://getofficesuite.com/join.php [11:24] arent there probs from them too [11:25] you opening it with windows [11:25] anything not ms based is dodgy to them [11:27] if you see that logo in the top left, that is the open office logo [11:34] but we libreoffice now [11:34] openoffice is old [11:34] i have clicked through to the payment area and it is actually for a product called novus office standard [11:35] WAYTTD [11:35] hehe [11:35] first time ive used that [11:35] WAYTTD [11:35] what are you trying to do [11:35] hehe [11:41] lol [11:41] i got an email, and thought i would check it out [11:43] ah [11:44] birdie connects now i gotta figure where to type [11:47] yay magespawn birdie works but can only accept one account at the moment, they are still developing it [11:49] cool Kilos [11:49] aw it crashed [11:50] all gone [11:50] sigh [11:54] restarts easy enough [11:58] they are still working on it [12:06] yeah [12:06] at least it gets in [12:10] pick up kids time bbl [12:10] k [12:12] * Squirm looks around [12:12] * Squirm yawns [12:13] lo there tired one [12:57] meh [12:58] so now I hear Google is giving websites with no mobile site a lower score :/ [12:58] everything is pointing mobile direction methinks [12:58] more mobiles than pcs already im sure [13:08] hey all [13:22] hi magespawn [13:24] good afternoon [13:25] hi charl [13:25] hi Kilos [13:25] hi magespawn, Squirm [13:25] hi charl [13:25] Squirm: google mobile search prioritises what it believes to be mobile websites, that's an old thing [13:26] Squirm: as for the rest, don't believe rumors, it's these seo-douchebags that keep going with it [13:26] Maaz: coffee on [13:26] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [13:26] i am really thirsty, been working too hard [13:27] been doing some cool stuff with w3c dom in java and apache commons httpcomponents [13:30] Coffee's ready for charl! [13:34] charl details or links [13:47] magespawn, of any interest to you? [13:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad-Aware [13:48] will have a look [13:48] magespawn: ??? [13:48] sorry was busy writing a mail there [13:49] no worries, was just interested in what you said namely been doing some cool stuff with w3c dom in java and apache commons httpcomponents [13:49] oh sorry, that [13:49] 1 sec [13:50] http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/org/w3c/dom/package-summary.html [13:50] http://hc.apache.org/ [13:50] sorry it's no longer part of apache commons, to correct myself [13:51] ty charl [13:51] it comes from apache commons httpclient [13:51] np [13:52] Kilos that is not one that that i have used before, but it uses the avira engine which i have seen before [13:52] ah [13:54] i liked the bit that it does malware spyware and virus [13:54] if it actually does that is [13:58] poor windows peeps [13:58] what a life [14:02] i run win8 inside a VM, mainly for office and one or two other applications [14:02] i just let security essentials do its job and don't worry about it further [14:02] but if i ever get problems with it, it would be trivial to revert to an earlier snapshot or even reinstall [14:03] if you don't run IE as your default browser, don't install from untrusted sources, and have good server-side email filtering, there is minimal chances of getting malware on your pc [14:04] the rest is just unnecessary worrying [14:24] tell that to the peeps with crashed pcs [14:24] hehe [14:25] thank heavens for ubuntu [14:26] well if you install random binaries on ubuntu you might also end up with some malware [14:27] but the chances are minimal [14:27] most malware authors target the most popular platforms, windows #1 and osx #2 [14:27] most popular desktop platforms, i should say [14:27] if gnu/linux was a popular desktop operating system it would have been targeted too [14:27] mostly only linux-based servers are targeted though [14:28] because it's probably the world's #1 server o/s [14:28] oh and android-based phones [14:29] oh my them too [14:31] i actually find IE on win7 much better than the old ones [14:32] give the devil his due, they have improved some [14:42] i still would not use IE for the life of me, but you are correct, it has improved [14:46] it is so bad they actually made a self-ridiculing site http://www.browseryoulovedtohate.com/ [14:46] hen they replaced it with a new campaign http://www.beautyoftheweb.com/ [14:47] however their market share continues to drop http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp [14:48] chrome continues to rise and all other browsers continue to fall, google is taking over the web [14:52] can someone explain this http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=59975 [14:53] is it on cells only the free bit [15:00] "This morning, at G-South Africa, in Cape Town, 8ta announced “Free Zone powered by Google” - a service that gives people access to mobile Web search and feature-phone-friendly versions of Gmail and Google+ with zero data charges." [15:01] mobile web search is the mobile site [15:01] i think it was anything that used an 8ta sim like a tablet or phone but not for the modem on a pc [15:01] typically only accessible from a mobile web browser like the type you have on a mobile phone [15:01] yup that makes sense magespawn [15:02] and it was only the search and the first linked page of the search [15:02] you could perhaps fool it by using a mobile web browser inside an android emulator (for example) on a tethered pc [15:02] maybe you could past it if you could get a mobile browser on the pc [15:02] no guarantees though [15:02] lol [15:03] they say great minds think alike magespawn :) [15:03] not sure about dumb ones though :( [15:03] it also seems to count for mobile apps [15:03] indeed, they also say something else, that slips my mind at the moment [15:03] hah [15:04] i don't know how they calculate the billing, it's hard to know how they differentiate unless you have technical knowlege of the implementation [15:05] have an outrageously good evening all :) [15:05] ya man nokias use opera [15:24] hey magespawn we min here man [15:31] yup 31 [15:32] 30 [15:32] oops [15:32] ai! [15:33] maybe ill get G+ free if i use opera then i can go there [15:33] hehe [15:33] here be more info [15:34] Kilos: not sure if that would work, i think is only google search [15:34] http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2012/11/13/got-an-8ta-sim-card-you-now-get-free-web-access-with-google/ [15:34] they say in there the g+ is a free thing too [15:35] and the internet seems to recognise opera as a mobile browser [15:36] maybe you gotta join their freezone first [15:36] * Kilos looks [15:37] Share and search on your phone with no data charges [15:37] sounds like a deal [15:37] but no english the apart from philipines and sri lanka [15:37] grrr [15:39] which of them is close to za english [15:39] i also want free data and all [15:41] wont work thats for location [15:41] grrr [15:52] not sure Kilos, experiment [15:53] i am off home, later [15:53] go safe magespawn [15:54] ended up at my broadband but dont understand their random question [15:54] Please give the name and surname in the following list which are the odd ones out (sample answer like: Johan Pretorius): Akhona, Buhle, Celiwe, Diliza, Entla, Fundani, Gabhaza, Hloniphile, Isiwelwa, Jabulile, Khwezi, Louis, Mangaliso, Neziswa, Othembela, Phaphama, Qedusizi, Reneilwe, Schoeman, Thonjeni, Unathile, Veliswa, Wonga, Xabaquba, Yawilweca, Zondlile [15:55] ah maybe now [15:56] i dont read to well [15:57] what a schlep [17:02] good evening [17:03] hi inetpro [17:03] birdie works [17:04] Kilos: good for you [17:04] ty [17:05] but it sounds like an old thing that I tried some time ago [17:05] will use till you say choqok is working [17:05] its still under developement so i dunno [17:05] no frills they say [17:06] Kilos, magespawn: that g+ 8ta freezone thing is no more [17:06] look at the date [17:07] then read the later date story at: http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/79371-free-zone-powered-by-google-is-no-more.html [17:07] ai! [17:07] i got to the mybroadband thing and waiting for a confirm email [17:07] grrr [17:07] it was stupid to start with anyway [17:08] aw its gone? [17:08] * inetpro wbb [17:08] oh well [17:40] lo [17:41] hi [17:45] wb Xethron [17:58] whew its cold again [18:57] night all. sleep tight [19:17] o0o0 [19:18] herro ubuntu-za [19:25] good evening zeref [19:41] ohi zeref [19:56] superfly: how are uou today? [19:56] you as well [20:08] inetpro: meh. [20:09] hmm... whatever that means? [20:10] sounds like you have lost the interwebs [20:21] whaoh [20:21] anybody tried wicket? [20:25] What's that? [20:25] Apache Wicket?