[00:00] <shadows> cpscarface1: small donation gets you a shell at silenceisdefeat.com ;   one of the last remaining public shell hosts :)
[00:00] <shadows> sorry meant to msg that
[00:00] <shadows> kboodu: thanks for the confirmation and information
[00:02] <shadows> kboodu: kvm-qemu virtualization insists on chmod files in my home dir that are used for a running guest
[00:02] <shadows> it's somewhat annoying
[00:03] <kboodu> shadows: I generally put them in another directory and then symlink it from MY home directory so I can at least browse it.
[00:04] <kboodu> shadows: I don't like how it manages permissions / owns the files either.  But I deal with it (and use sudo cp to backup the files)
[00:05] <gaz1069> hi
[00:08] <gaz1069> does anyone here know much about ubuntu 11.04?
[00:09] <Hexagonite> Why 11.04?
[00:10] <gaz1069> it's the version I've got.
[00:10] <Hexagonite> What do you need help with it?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> ! eol | gaz1069
[00:11] <gaz1069> I need to install octave and it won't go and fetch the files.  is there any way to get it to just download the debs it needs?
[00:12] <th0r> gaz1069: the repos are no longer available....11.04 is no longer supported
[00:13] <gaz1069> ok, so how do I get it to download from a different repository?
[00:13] <kboodu> gaz1069: Upgrade to a supported version.
[00:14] <gaz1069> not a chance, I can't find out any way of upgrading it and not getting stuck with damn unity.  That's why I'm still on 11.04
[00:14] <Hexagonite> Install gnome-fallback on 13.04 then?
[00:15] <Skymont> is there a file tree program i can use so i know what is taking up so much space on my hdd?
[00:15] <th0r> Skymont: du?
[00:15] <kboodu> Skymont: du --max-depth=1 will tell you from the command line the size of each directory
[00:15] <jmurrib21> is there an IRC channel for lubuntu or is this channel okay for all ubuntu flavors
[00:16] <Hexagonite> #lubuntu
[00:16] <gaz1069> Disk Useage Analyser is good for that @Skymont
[00:17] <gaz1069> So does gnome-fallback basically look like gnome2?  and is it definitely available for 13.04?
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> gaz1069, There are about 50 desktops up can run.
[00:19] <gaz1069> is there a way of getting 11.04 to download packages for a supported version? I only want software, not OS updates.
[00:20] <Tex_Nick> Hexagonite:  trigger ubbotu with ! insteda of # ;-)
[00:21] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: 11.04 is an LTS
[00:21] <Hexagonite> What?
[00:21] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: why don't you want to keep it updated?
[00:21] <kboodu> gordonjcp: 11.04 is NOT LTS.  10.04 and 12.04 are.
[00:21] <gordonjcp> kboodu: bah, you're right
[00:21] <gordonjcp> 11.04 is probably out of support
[00:22] <kboodu> 11.04 IS out of support.
[00:22] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: okay, so 11.04 is out of support
[00:22] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: you should update
[00:22] <gaz1069> I just need to get octave installed for now.  I'll update it when I'm sure I can get round the unity problem.
[00:22] <kboodu> gaz1069: What unity "problem?"
[00:23] <Hexagonite> You can get around the unity problem by installing another de?
[00:24] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: what problem are you having with Unity?
[00:24] <gaz1069> urm... the big buttons for 3 year olds and the complete lack of any common sense.  Sorry for anyone here who likes unity. I just don't get on with it, and I just find it intensely annoying.
[00:24] <gordonjcp> what "big buttons for 3 year olds"?
[00:25] <gordonjcp> Unity is the only WM worth using
[00:25] <Hexagonite> 'the big buttons for 3 year olds' resize it then?
[00:25] <gordonjcp> the rest are all crap
[00:25] <th0r> Jeez
[00:25] <gordonjcp> KDE is too concerned with having whizzy animations for everything
[00:25] <gaz1069> whatever the rip'off of the OSX dock is called on the left hand side.
[00:25] <EDocToor> Question: with the chown command and users... I guess I have to create a user before this command will work: --------------- chown -hR root:nobody /pub
[00:25] <gaz1069> I want an application menu, dammit. lol
[00:25] <gordonjcp> Gnome 3 has ridiculously huge icons and tiny fonts
[00:25] <gordonjcp> openbox?
[00:26] <Hexagonite> Then get 'gnome-fallback'?
[00:26] <gordonjcp> Openbox is great, if you like writing 24 pages of haskell to change the desktop background and if you like talking about trains to everyone you meet
[00:26] <gordonjcp> if you don't like Unity, there's something wrong with you
[00:26] <th0r> Edoctoor: no, but you need to use sudo
[00:27] <citric> how can I make a link to a .sh program ? like instead of running it in a terminal and having to have a terminal window open + the program
[00:27] <gaz1069> true gordon.  I've got KDE on my laptop.  I wish KDE would sort themselves out.  The graphics are a bit too shiny, and you need someone from mensa to help with installing a printer. lol
[00:27] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: KDE guys just *looooooove* their settings menus
[00:27] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: you know how it would be *possible* but not necessarily practical to make a car with a 47-speed gearbox?
[00:27] <gordonjcp> that's KDE
[00:27] <kboodu> gordonjcp: Have you looked at installing AWN (Avant Window Navigator) along with unity?
[00:28] <gordonjcp> kboodu: nope, what does it do?
[00:28] <EDocToor> th0r, when I use sudo chown -hR root:nobody /pub the result is "chown: invalid group: 'root:nobody'"
[00:28] <gaz1069> maybe there's something wrong with me then gordon.  I admit I spend most of my time in a terminal.
[00:28] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: so do I
[00:28] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: but I use Unity for my WM
[00:28] <kboodu> gordonjcp: It puts a menu bar at the bottom (by default) with the options for File Folders and the "old style menu"
[00:28] <gordonjcp> kboodu: then no, I haven't tried it and I don't intend to
[00:29] <kboodu> gordonjcp: Do a quick google for it.  I use it with Unity.  Helps me for certain things.
[00:29] <th0r> Edoctoor: you need to create the group nobody
[00:29] <gordonjcp> kboodu: the old style gnome 2 thing was fine in the 90s
[00:29] <gaz1069> oooh kboodu, that sounds perfect :)
[00:29] <gordonjcp> kboodu: I don't want stuff along the bottom of my screen
[00:29] <gordonjcp> my screen is wider than it is tall
[00:29] <gordonjcp> sticking it at the side makes sense
[00:29] <gaz1069> urgh, since when did the era have anything to do with the userbility of a computer?
[00:29] <kboodu> gordonjcp: Sorry, I guess that was for gaz1069.
[00:30] <EDocToor> th0r, And that is back to my question... how do I create a group nobody
[00:30] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: since they were invented...
[00:30] <gaz1069> unity will be perfect when everyone has touch screen monitors.
[00:30] <kboodu> gaz1069: Take a look at it.  (And you can move it to sides or top or have multiple)
[00:30] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: don't see why that would be, touch screen monitors are hard to use
[00:31] <gaz1069> Gnome2 is impossible on a touch screen.  The larger icons in unity would probably work quite well though.
[00:31] <th0r> Edoctoor: I am not presently in my linux box. I think the command is addgroup. There is also Users and Groups gui in xfce...don't know about unity
[00:33] <gaz1069> kboodu, thank you very much.  I'll take a look at it on my m8s box before risking the purgatory of unity on mine. lol
[00:33] <EDocToor> th0r, thanks .. thats should be enuff to get me going in the right direction
[00:33] <kboodu> gaz1069: Take a look at some web sites and that will give you some idea if you WANT to install it.
[00:34] <kboodu> gaz1069: Try this:  https://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[00:34] <kboodu> gaz1069: There are also many screenshots of people who've installed it, if you look at google images.
[00:35] <gaz1069> well it's either going to be awn or gnome-fallback I think
[00:35] <kboodu> And if nothing else, Lubuntu / Xubuntu and install the software from Ubuntu you want. ;)
[00:37] <gaz1069> first screenshot I foud on google, someone had made the anoying unity laeft hand bar into an OSX dock. lol at least the menu bar comes back though.
[00:37] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: that's one of the things that annoys me about OSX
[00:38] <gordonjcp> gaz1069: why is the dock at the bottom?  It should be at the size
[00:38] <gordonjcp> *side
[00:38] <pixlepix> Having a problem
[00:38] <gaz1069> I don't have time to do the update right now though, so I've still got to work out how to get 11.04 to download debs.
[00:38] <kboodu> gordonjcp: You can move it to either side or the top.  Most people like it at the bottom (probably because of Winders)
[00:38] <pixlepix> I have a macbook pro set up to dual boot ubuntu
[00:38] <amazon-experimen> hi
[00:39] <pixlepix> I tried upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10
[00:39] <amazon-experimen> I do need some help setting up a FOG server any help from here ??
[00:39] <pixlepix> I was stupid, and turned it off mid-install
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> gaz1069, you can get free standing debs on the web sometimes.
[00:39] <pixlepix> I booted into recovery mode, and it appeared to finish the install
[00:39] <Tex_Nick> gaz1069:  i used "Gnome Classic" on 12.04 & 12.10 ... 13.04 no longer supports "Gnome Classic" ... so i'm using "Gnome-Fallbak" now ... fallbac has a few glitches that i've been anable to resolve ... however it's wo0rking good enough fo me to continue using it
[00:40] <pixlepix> But now, when I go into ubuntu, I am faced with only a terminal
[00:40] <pixlepix> And, worse, my computer does not appear to be working
[00:40] <gaz1069> gordon, the mac fanboy is a strange beast.  There is no explaining why they have their dock at the bottom of the screen, of why they have a large glowing apple on the back of it. lol
[00:41] <pixlepix> Hey, I have my dock on my side, thank you very much
[00:41] <pixlepix> :)
[00:41] <gaz1069> ouch pixle.  does it boot from the install CD
[00:41] <pixlepix> I might try that
[00:41] <pixlepix> Worth noting that It works perfectly fine from osx
[00:42] <pixlepix> But...I fell in love with ubuntu :)
[00:42] <gaz1069> I'm guessing you're on a mac pixel
[00:42] <talesofhorror> hi everyone
[00:43] <gaz1069> I love ubuntu on small PC laptops, it doubles the speed compared to wondoze. lol
[00:43] <gaz1069> hi tales
[00:45] <gaz1069> does anyone know how I can add the lucid repository in natty?
[00:46] <BluesKaj> gaz1069, not good practice to mix release repos
[00:46] <kboodu> gaz1069: You can really run into dependency issues and conflicts mixing repositories.  Wouldn't recommend it.
[00:47] <kboodu> gaz1069: You might add a PPA with specific software however to solve *some* issues.
[00:48] <treehau55> hey everyone, I am trying to do something a little risky and was wondering if someone who knows linux well can make sure Im not doing anything stupid
[00:48] <gaz1069> yeah, I know.  I can't just download the debs annoyingly.  HOw would I add a PPA?
[00:48] <gaz1069> what are you trying to do treehut?
[00:49] <treehau55> gaz1069,  trying to enable autosuspend on the WiMax portion of my network card
[00:49] <treehau55> im pretty sure the usb  device is under sys/bus/usb/devices/2-1.3:1.0 but not sure
[00:49] <kboodu> gaz1069: Here is how to add a PPA - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/how-to-add-a-ppa-to-software-sources-in-ubuntu
[00:49] <kboodu> gaz1069: However, you need to find the appropriate PPA for the software you want to install - and determine if it's even available.
[00:49] <BluesKaj> gaz1069, . if one is available for the package you want , check out launchpad for the package
[00:50] <kboodu> treehau55: Did you look at dmesg to see what it showed when the USB device was connected to the system?
[00:50] <_nothing__> what is different between sbin and bin?
[00:50] <BluesKaj> !ppa > gaz1069
[00:51] <kboodu> _nothing__: sbin is for more "secure" binaries that normal users shouldn't need.
[00:51] <somsip> _nothing__: bin for executables, sbin for executables that relate to system setup
[00:51] <somsip> *startup
[00:51] <treehau55> kboodu, im not sure what dmesg is , is that the text that appears in black and white right before ubuntu boots up?
[00:52] <kboodu> treehau55: dmesg shows some of that info...and other related system messages after bootup
[00:52] <_nothing__> what is different between /sbin and /bin?
[00:52] <kboodu> treehau55: It's kernel related messages.
[00:53] <kboodu> _nothing__: Most binaries in /sbin are for the root user to "run" or during system start-up.
[00:53] <kboodu> _nothing__: programs in /bin are for normal user usage.
[00:54] <treehau55> kboodu,  dang theres lots of errors here
[00:54] <kboodu> treehau55: Errors?  Warnings?  Messages?
[00:54] <_nothing__> what is different between /sbin and /bin?
[00:55] <kboodu> treehau55: You can also run "dmesg | less" to page through the info it provides.
[00:55] <_nothing__> what is different between /sbin and /bin?
[00:55] <somsip> _nothing__: and now is the time to stop
[00:55] <nyRednek> is there a way to force ssl?
[00:55] <somsip> nyRednek: on what sort of connection?
[00:56] <new_> what is different between /sbin and /bin?
[00:56] <treehau55> kboodu, https://gist.github.com/treehau5/2bccce88b92e2c45d52b
[00:56] <nyRednek> somsip, http, forcing it to be an https url
[00:56] <somsip> !ops _nothing__ is trolling repeating the same question despite receiving replies
[00:56] <somsip> nyRednek: only if the target host is setup to use https
[00:56] <somsip> !ops | _nothing__ is trolling repeating the same question despite receiving replies
[00:57] <_nothing__> sorry my connection get trouble
[00:57] <_nothing__> time to stop?what u mean?
[00:57] <kboodu> treehau55: Some of that is a problem with the file system.  Disk corruption?  (ext4 is a file system)
[00:57] <knnl4110> _nothing__: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=difference+between+sbin+and+bin
[00:57] <somsip> _nothing__: you've asked the same question 5 times in 5 mins and recieved 3 replies from two different people
[00:58] <IdleOne> knnl4110: Please don't give lmgtfy links, it is rude and wouldn't have been easier for you to link them directly.
[00:58] <kboodu> treehau55: Did you have an "unclean" shutdown?  That's what lines 1 - 2699 look like
[00:58] <knnl4110> IdleOne: ok.
[00:58] <IdleOne> thank you
[00:58] <somsip> IdleOne: sorry - maybe I was a bit over eager withthe ops call...
[00:58] <treehau55> kboodu,  ive had 2 constant issues my 2 years of using ubuntu, 1. problems with my graphics card (fglrx) and 2. problems with my wireless (iwlwifi)
[00:58] <IdleOne> somsip: no worries
[00:58] <seronis> IdleOne: it seemed quite appropriate here actually
[00:58] <_nothing__> i'm sorry sir , caused my internet connection get trouble, connect and disconnect so i can not to know that my question was stored in channel. i'm so sorry all..
[00:58] <treehau55> kboodu,  maybe be the fact that i originally installed ubuntu as a dual boot along side windows on a SSD, then migrated to to a hard drive. 2. yes I did, I had to force shut down I was messing with the compiz settings and did something that locked up the system
[00:58] <knnl4110> seronis: if he hadn't had internet trouble, yeah.
[00:58] <IdleOne> seronis: it is never appropriate to be rude.
[00:59] <seronis> blunt != rude
[00:59] <kboodu> treehau55: That explains the "errors," but those are expected in an "unclean" shutdown - disk buffers that weren't "commited" to the disk.
[00:59] <treehau55> kboodu, okay, well as far as getting this usb device to autosuspend, you think you can help me? I just want to be sure im not doing anything stupid
[01:00] <kboodu> treehau55: The remainder of that looks ok.  Not sure about the CPU related things.
[01:00] <knnl4110> seronis: IdleOne is right. My apologies!
[01:00] <kboodu> treehau55: What USB device?
[01:00] <treehau55> im *fairly* certain its 2-1.3:1.0
[01:00] <pianogmx> hello , I am going to school for programming but how can I find a development team to mentor me and help me contribute to something?
[01:00] <_nothing__> i'm little strees in learnn.can help me how to fix it?
[01:01] <kboodu> treehau55: i2400m_usb?
[01:01] <somsip> pianogmx: look into contributing to open source projects. Easy ones, maybe
[01:01] <kboodu> treehau55: That look slike a WiMax device on wmx0.
[01:01] <Mattheus> Hello, I'm having a bit of a crisis here. Hopefully someone can help me
[01:01] <treehau55> kboodu, I have an Intel wimax 6150 network card, which is suprisingly supported by the kernel, and the installation docs state I will get better performance if I place the WiMax portion of the device in power save mode
[01:01] <_nothing__> help about what focus i must learn in unix
[01:01] <_nothing__> first
[01:01] <somsip> !manual | _nothing__
[01:02] <treehau55> kboodu,  i never use the wimax, I always just use it to connect to networks through wifi
[01:02] <Mattheus> A few minutes ago I tried installing linux mint, and the installer failed in the partition process. Now when I startup neither windows or ubuntu loads up, it just brings me to a grub rescue command line
[01:02] <seronis> pianogmx: also idle in #learnprogramming or some of the language specific channels.  pay attention to common problems and solutions others give them
[01:02] <kboodu> treehau55: You might try googling that.
[01:02] <_nothing__> not in manual but in directly,tips
[01:02] <Mattheus> so now i'm on the ubuntu live cd wondering how to recover my partitions
[01:02] <kboodu> I'm not sure how to put it in PowerSave mode and the impacts.  It *should* be ok.
[01:03] <_nothing__> such as how to manage schedule in learning
[01:03] <somsip> _nothing__: when you need to do something, research it yourself properly. Read man pages when you need to use a command. Expand your knowledge slowly. Don't just rely on others for answers
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Mattheus, This a uefi windows or mbr
[01:03] <Mattheus> wilee-nilee: sorry I'm really new to this stuff, so that was a foreign language to me :)
[01:03] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get the 32bit versions of gstreamer, and will it ruin my 64bit packages?
[01:04] <DarkAceLaptop> s/ruin/want to remove
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Mattheus, Windows 7?
[01:04] <Mattheus> Yeah
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> Mattheus, Follow this chroot to reload grub to the mbr. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[01:05] <Mattheus> So you don't think I'll lose my windows 7 stuff?
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> Mattheus, We are assuming mint did no damage, reloading the ubuntu grub should get you up and running.
[01:06] <_nothing__> somsip thx for idea, i founded it that why i'm streess caused too much what i learn,not such as your tips for me to get learn slowly,thx.
[01:06] <Mattheus> OK, thanks very much wilee-nilee. I'll take a look
[01:06] <aum> hi - adobe reader shows blank menus on 12.04LTS - screenshot here: http://picpaste.com/HAiQiDu5.jpg - any ideas or options?
[01:07] <_nothing__> somsip maybe i too quickly in learning, i must change it to slowly mode.
[01:08] <clockworks> hi do .deb files embody the ability to add repositories to your sources.list or wherever?
[01:08] <clockworks> i mean
[01:08] <clockworks> just installing a .deb file
[01:08] <clockworks> will it add the repo
[01:09] <clockworks> or can it
[01:09] <clockworks> ?
[01:09] <FloodBot1> clockworks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <clockworks> im just a fast typer
[01:09] <clockworks> not a flooder
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> clockworks, Some debs will for example google chrome does.
[01:09] <clockworks> wilee-nilee: how exactly do they do it and why dont more debs do it?
[01:09] <clockworks> wilee-nilee: are you implying most dont?
[01:10] <_nothing__> you all here, in learning are you use notebook to write ?
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> clockworks, Not sure how, I can't say most don't but I have seen few in 7 years
[01:11] <clockworks> hm weird wilee-nilee
[01:11] <_nothing__> notebook(manual book to write)
[01:11] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get the 32bit versions of gstreamer, and will it ruin my 64bit packages?
[01:11] <clockworks> wilee-nilee: whats the prefered way to add a repo?
[01:11] <kboodu> clockworks: I'm not sure that most .deb files add a repository. They *usually* just install binaries / config files / anciliary files (but maybe not all dependencies)
[01:12] <clockworks> thanks kboodu but i dont get why not all debs that come from a repo (most do) add their repo
[01:12] <kboodu> _nothing__: I usually use a wiki of some kind.  Sometimes Zim on my computer (and my Zim files are shared across computers with Dropbox)
[01:12] <Tickle> ifconfig is giving me "Command 'ifconfig' is available in 'sbin/ifconfig
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> clockworks, If a ppa there is a ppa add that includes the key, otherwse I would put it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <Tickle> it was working before i restarted the machine.
[01:13] <kboodu> clockworks: It depends if you add the repo and install or if you download the deb and install it.
[01:13] <_nothing__> kboodu thx for your tips
[01:14] <jmurrib21> i can't install lubuntu 13.04 in an old pc
[01:14] <jmurrib21> it says number:longhaul
[01:14] <stan879nz> hello i have disabled my wireless from the top right and can't renable it becuase i cant find it there can some please help
[01:15] <knnl4110> jmurrib21: why not try a liter distro?
[01:15] <jmurrib21> like?
[01:15] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get the 32bit versions of gstreamer, and will it ruin my 64bit packages?
[01:15] <jmurrib21> tried proteus
[01:15] <jmurrib21> the same
[01:15] <knnl4110> jmurrib21: google "distros for old computers" there are some superl ight one (puppy)
[01:16] <jmurrib21> ok
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> stan879nz, Have you gone to network settings from the icon?
[01:16] <kboodu> jmurrib21: Try something like DSL / Puppy / Slax
[01:16] <sere> jmurrib21: slax?
[01:16] <jmurrib21> will look at slax
[01:17] <_nothing__> for several day, i have HATE virus creator that have make me busy in time,.. he not smart but stupid, he is script kidies only,. maybe if i have get knowledge about something, i want to kill some virus program.
[01:17] <sere> jmurrib21: porteus is a port of slax.. and its kinda outdated.. slax 7 is the new of the three
[01:17] <stan879nz> i have edit conection but nothing in there about enabling or serching
[01:17] <_nothing__> he is not have ETichal in programming
[01:18] <clockworks> _nothing__: are you chinese?
[01:18] <_nothing__> he is  not have etichal in programming
[01:18] <_nothing__> clockworks, not. are you english?
[01:18] <clockworks> yep
[01:19] <clockworks> anglistic
[01:20] <_nothing__> come all we support ethical programming,
[01:20] <somsip> _nothing__: how about we all get back on topic. You should take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:21] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I get the 32bit versions of gstreamer, and will it ruin my 64bit packages?
[01:21] <stan879nz> i can only see wirred no wireless i right click the network top right cnr and unticked wireless network now i cant retick it
[01:22] <_nothing__> somsip sorry it is just little intermezo from me. i know about it. but caused i like ubuntu caused it programmer is good, and have ethical, caused that i just to tell heart to heart about fact.
[01:22] <kboodu> stan879nz: What does dmesg say when you re-click it?  Does it signal anything to the kernel?
[01:22] <_nothing__> intermezo==fact that i have get in my self,
[01:23] <stan879nz> no because the option for wireless network is nolonger there
[01:24] <aum> hi - adobe reader shows blank menus on 12.04LTS - screenshot here: http://picpaste.com/HAiQiDu5.jpg - any ideas or options?
[01:24] <kboodu> stan879nz: Not sure why it would disappear from your menu.
[01:25] <kboodu> stan879nz: Are you using Network Manager?
[01:25] <stan879nz> yes
[01:26] <stan879nz> network manager 0.9.4.1
[01:26] <kboodu> stan879nz: Will restarting network manager cause you any problems (are you doing anything on the wired network)?
[01:26] <stan879nz> no i am on another pc atm till i fix
[01:26] <kboodu> stan879nz: MAYBE that will solve the issue?
[01:26] <kboodu> stan879nz: But it's pretty "strange"
[01:27] <stan879nz> so just try to restart the device?
[01:27] <kboodu> Device?
[01:27] <kboodu> No.  The service.
[01:27] <syntroPi> is there any tablet with stylus which is supported by normal desktop ubuntu ui?
[01:28] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: I see gstreamer in my apt-cache repository (Ubuntu v12.04).  Is it in yours?
[01:29] <Fenb> somebody that can recommend me a terminal, i tried xterm but that one is to inflexeble
[01:29] <somsip> Fenb: what flexibility do you need? What features that aren't in xterm?
[01:29] <kboodu> Fenb: What are you trying to do?
[01:29] <DarkAceLaptop> yeah, but I don't see the 32bit versions; I'm trying to fix wine
[01:29] <DarkAceLaptop> and they directed me here
[01:29] <Bronze> konsole is one of the most flexible
[01:29] <sethj_> Fenb: What's wrong with Gnome-terminal?
[01:29] <kboodu> Fenb: There is gnome-terminal and roxterm.
[01:29] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: Fix Wine?
[01:30] <Alikexhi3> DarkAceLaptop, I'm just a simple wine user ^^
[01:30] <DarkAceLaptop> kboodu, yeah, apparently it wants the 32bit versions
[01:30] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: Wine wants a 32-bit version of gstreamer?
[01:30] <DarkAceLaptop> kboodu: it's not using the 64bit version I have installed
[01:30] <DarkAceLaptop> yes
[01:30] <DarkAceLaptop> I think, anyway
[01:30] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: Why are you running it under wine?
[01:31] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: It's a native Linux application.
[01:31] <Fenb> i think its not wrong with xterm but i wanna hear the opinions from others
[01:31] <DarkAceLaptop> a Windows game wants sound, and wine uses gstreamer
[01:31] <somsip> Fenb: tell us what you need then
[01:31] <nyRednek> question, could one have two ssl certs pointing to same ip?
[01:31] <kboodu> Fenb: It depends on what you're doing.  I bounce between lxterm, gnome-terminal, xterm, roxterm, and rxvt all day long
[01:32] <Fenb> DarkAceLaptop: last time i checked wine is using 32-bit cus it most stable i think.. i heard
[01:32] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: I have no idea.  That's a ...puzzle.
[01:33] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: I think you might have some conflicts around that though unless it's installed specifically under Wine to ensure you don't run into shared library issues.
[01:33] <kboodu> DarkAceLaptop: Maybe compile from source...but, that's going to be a lot of work.
[01:33] <stan879nz> service network-manager start has not fixed the problem wireless is still missing only Enable Networking - Enable Notification - Edit Connections... - About is visible
[01:33] <Fenb> hehe copy commands, but nothing serious, havent seen another uses for terminals? :]
[01:34] <kboodu> Fenb: Screen.  :)
[01:34] <kboodu> stan879nz: Was that a start or a restart?
[01:34] <stan879nz> i stopped the service ad started the service again
[01:34] <Alikexhi3> DarkAceLaptop, maybe this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1643197
[01:35] <kboodu> stan879nz: Ahh.  Then it sounds like it can't detect the Wireless for whatever reason.
[01:35] <kboodu> stan879nz: Not sure why that would happen.  Maybe something in dmesg or in /var/log/syslog
[01:36] <Fenb> kboodu: i dont know.. what you mean screens?
[01:36] <kboodu> Fenb: Check out man screen.  I use it to connect to all the remote server4s.
[01:38] <somsip> Fenb: you want copy on keys rather than on mouse?
[01:38] <Fenb> somsip: what you mean?
[01:38] <ikk-> failed to load session "gnome" , how to fix this , I installed awesome, and echo "exec awesome" > .xinitrc
[01:39] <anomaly> I have one pci-e video card doing dual monitors.  I want to add another pci to gain two more.  to ask the naive question, would this present a problem for 13.04 or difficulty in getting running, software wise?
[01:39] <somsip> Fenb: well, highlight with mouse drag and paste with middle button is one way of copying that should work across everyting linuxy. So what functionality are you looking for?
[01:39] <ikk-> I installed xdm , and purge gdm kdm lightdm
[01:44] <leptone> i have aMacBook Pro dual boot OSX and Ubuntu 12.04. lately i've had problems booting into ubuntu. when i select the tux icon in rEfit the tux icon stays in the middle of the screen and freezes there. i am in ubuntu right now, but idk how...
[01:45] <Fenb> somsip: i dont know any other use :/
[01:45] <kboodu> Fenb: The terminal allows you to execute commands and interract with the operating system.
[01:46] <Bronze> ARRRGGGHHH
[01:46] <kboodu> Fenb: If xterm isn't working, try and install another and see if it meets your needs or google it online and see how others use it.
[01:46] <ikk-> I purged gnome-session , but xdm still say Failed to load session "gnome"
[01:46] <somsip> Fenb: So I'm trying to help, but I get impatient when I have to drag details out of people. So I use urxvt but I cannot tell you whether this will be helpful for you or not. So there you go
[01:46]  * Bronze smacks kboodu with a trout
[01:46] <Bronze> kboodu: Stop conflating "terminal" with the bash shell. 9or theshell of your choice)
[01:47] <ikk-> I rm -rf /etc/xdg/autostart/ , but xdm still say Failed to load session "gnome"
[01:47] <leptone> my dual boot macbook pro freezies when trying to boot to ubuntu
[01:47] <ikk-> help
[01:48] <wheatthin> ikk I think you want to use dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:48] <Fenb> somsip: i said earlier that i wanted others opinions or what its called :]
[01:48] <ikk-> wheatthin: I want use xdm , instead of gdm
[01:48] <wheatthin> right, it'll give you a choice
[01:49] <Fenb> somsip: i just wanted something else to try out
[01:49] <kboodu> Bronze: I'm not sure how you're confusing the Appearance (terminal) and it's functionality with the shell (which interprets the commands - which can be bash, zsh, or others)
[01:49] <stan879nz> omg thanks guys.. the problem was with me the user. when i unticked wierless from network manager i had to press FN+F2 to turn it back on
[01:50] <kboodu> stan879nz: Great...glad that's fixed for you.  Not sure I would have guessed that though.
[01:51] <Bronze> kboodu:  I wrote my first serial io driver in 1986. All the terminal does is pass characters back and forth. The shell iswhat doing all the work of allowing you to interact with the operating system.
[01:51] <Bronze> kboodu: did you start out on MAC OSX?
[01:51] <kboodu> Bronze: No.  CP/M
[01:51] <Fenb> i heard something called Terminator, i think it is a terminal?
[01:52] <Bronze> Fenb: yes.
[01:52] <Bronze> cute name too.
[01:52] <Bronze> kboodu: CP/M?  what hardware?
[01:52] <kboodu> Bronze: You're mixing a hardware terminal with the abstract term of a Terminal in Linux.
[01:52] <kboodu> Bronze: Northstar.
[01:53] <Bronze> kboodu: no I'm not.  From the perspective if a *NIX user, the hardware and the software emulator of the hardware are the same.
[01:53] <Bronze> *of a
[01:53] <Fenb> haha, something that includes lots of stuff for a terminal i think?
[01:54] <Bronze> Fenb: I suspect so
[01:55] <wheatthin> ikk work for you?
[01:55] <stan879nz> how do i run a program as non root when logged in under root?
[01:56] <wheatthin> su username
[01:56] <Fenb> for a new user, would xterm be recommended or?
[01:57] <Fenb> stan879nz: or sudo
[01:57] <wheatthin> he doesn't want to run as root
[01:57] <wheatthin> when he's already root
[01:57] <Bronze> Fenb: I have always found konsole to be the most flexible and easiest to configure. That may or may not matter to a new user
[01:58] <kboodu> stan879nz: Why don't you "become" the user?
[01:58] <kboodu> stan879nz: su *username*
[01:58] <Rallias> I did kpartx on a VM image that has an LVM mapping. How do I deactivate the LVM mappings long enough for me to remove the kpartx mapping?
[01:58] <Fenb> Bronze: i dont use a DE, i use Ze Openbox
[01:58] <Braden`> Hello
[01:59] <Bronze> Fenb: then your choices will be limited
[01:59] <Bronze> I think....
[01:59] <Braden`> Is there a simple control panel that I can install in ubuntu that allows the user to add e-mail addresses, etc. from a web interface?  It would be nice if it shows hdd capacity, etc.   Sort of like how Plesk and CPanel work but without all of the other nonsense.
[02:00] <w4ve> Webmin
[02:00] <w4ve> Braden: Webmin
[02:00] <Braden`> I will check it out.  Thanks
[02:00] <somsip> !info webmin | Braden`
[02:00] <somsip> Braden`: ah. It used to be amessage saying this is not support or recommended anymore. Not sure why.
[02:01] <wheatthin> no, it just does not exist
[02:01] <Epoxx> Hi everyone. Does anyone know if Ubuntu installs well with UEFI bios nowadays? I tried with linux mint (oh, the shame! :P) somewhat recently and I never could get it to work :(
[02:01] <wheatthin> webmin can be downloaded from their site, still as a debian package
[02:01] <Braden`> Ok
[02:01] <somsip> wheatthin: yes, but i meant supported in ubuntu. I should have been more clear.
[02:01] <Fenb> Epoxx: did you boot it in UEFI?
[02:02] <kboodu> somsip: Webmin notifies you of updates itself and will all you to install it from inside itself.
[02:02] <Jeruvy> Perfect
[02:02] <Epoxx> Fenb what do you mean? Right now I have win8 64bit in EFI mode
[02:02] <somsip> kboodu: thanks, but of no interest to me :)
[02:02] <kboodu> somsip: Then what are you trying to do?
[02:03] <Fenb> Epoxx: nah i meant if you booted in UEFI then you installed ubuntu with the cd
[02:03] <somsip> kboodu: let Braden know that webmin is no longer supported or recommended as an official Ubuntu package
[02:03] <sere> Does Rainy tomboys sync server need to use a public ip.. i would think if the syncing computer is in on the same network it could use a local ip?
[02:03] <kboodu> somsip: Oops. Grabbed the wrong name...
[02:03] <somsip> kboodu: np :)
[02:04] <Fenb> ok thanks for the advice i think im gonna try it out
[02:04] <kboodu> Braden`: The Webmin notifies you of updates and allows you to update it from inside itself. Even though a debian package is available, it is not offiically supported in Ubunut.
[02:05] <Epoxx> Also, anyone here work for Google by any chance? :D
[02:06] <Azorian> g'd up!
[02:06] <tjbiddle> How can I ensure the proper user's $HOME is used when using `sudo -u username_here` ?
[02:06] <tjbiddle> It keeps using the user I'm logged in as, not the one I'm specifying
[02:07] <Azorian> that seems like a potential bug in the operation of sudo?
[02:07] <Azorian> all though I understand why it would still use the active environment vars
[02:07] <wheatthin> that's why I suggested using su
[02:07] <kboodu> tjbiddle: sudo -u username command allows you to execute the command with the permissions of the user.
[02:07] <Epoxx> It does not keep the active environment vars
[02:07] <somsip> tjbiddle: su - username
[02:08] <somsip> tjbiddle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_(Unix)
[02:08] <kboodu> tjbiddle: What somesip said.  Then you will "become" the user.
[02:08] <tjbiddle> somsip: I think the server has login disabled for this user. Don't feel like lifting it as it's probably for a reason
[02:08] <somsip> tjbiddle: you mean there is no password? I sudo -i and then su
[02:08] <samgabbay> hi i cant hear anything on my username but on others i can
[02:08] <kboodu> tjbiddle: Is the shell /bin/false for that user?
[02:09] <Azorian> tjbiddle, if you are worried about a security concern just change the password then su to the user
[02:09] <Azorian> I can' see any reason not to lift the login
[02:09] <somsip> Azorian: not a good idea. usually acounts have no password for a reaon. www-data, nobody, etc...
[02:09] <tjbiddle> kboodu: Yup! That's what it is, thanks!
[02:09] <kboodu> tjbiddle: Don't forget to change it back when you're done!
[02:10] <tjbiddle> kboodu: Is that something harmful?
[02:10] <Azorian> yes but I assume he is talking about a user account
[02:10] <Azorian> not a sys account
[02:10] <tjbiddle> Azorian: It's a user we're using to pull in puppet modules from git
[02:10] <somsip> Azorian: he has his answer. Maybe we're at cross-purposes a little <shrugs>
[02:10] <Azorian> apparently so
[02:11] <tjbiddle> Well many thanks :) Only run into having the shell set to /bin/false once before - Completely slipped my mind to check.
[02:11]  * tjbiddle write in notes
[02:15] <Fenb> what is recommended to use then i got a hybrid graphics?
[02:17] <jj123> can I configure the IGMP timeout?  I'm using qemu on 13.04 and my application's multicast data just stops after exactly 5 minutes.  I don't have this problem with 12.04, so I'm looking at the only non-kernel/qemu difference - IGMP v3/v2
[02:18] <ikk-> how to uninstall gdm and gnome in 12.10 ? I'll use awesome and xdm
[02:19] <wheatthin> ikk purge them
[02:19] <somsip> ikk-: I found it trinkly to completely remove gnome and ended up with fresh install from minimal. Then just apt-get-install awesomewm and wait a while. Not sure about xdm - use slim here
[02:19] <somsip> *tricky
[02:20] <Tex_Nick> jj123:  if you don't gea answer here you might ask in #Ubuntu-server
[02:21] <ikk-> somsip: wheatthin: how to use xdm and awesome , without uninstall gdm and gnome
[02:21] <jj123> crossing my fingers
[02:21] <somsip> ikk-: just told you. I have no idea about xdm
[02:22] <somsip> ikk-: sorry - misread. You can install awesome as a session to gdm, but no idea about xdm
[02:23] <ikk-> somsip: ok , i'll try slim
[02:24] <wheatthin> with hardware these days I don't get why not just use gdm and use the sessions manager to use awesome like somsip said
[02:24] <Fenb> what do i do if i got a hybrid graphic card?
[02:24] <somsip> ikk-: this might help with awesome on gnome. It looks familiar to when I tried it out. Ignore the 'compiling awesome' bit as awesome is in the repos. Scroll down to the '[Desktop Entry]' bit http://is.gd/NgPGkP
[02:24] <somsip> !gq | Fenb
[02:25] <Ari-Yang> !distupgrade
[02:25] <wheatthin> <-- personally loves gnome 3 :)
[02:25] <Fenb> somsip: i got a intel, nvidia graphic card in my laptop?
[02:26] <somsip> Fenb: and...? I'm not dragging this out of you again. I'll just give up and do some work instead...
[02:28] <Greygan_> Fenb: are you trying to install a graphics driver or what???
[02:28] <Fenb> Greygan_: yea
[02:28] <Greygan_> Fenb: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:29] <ikk-> somsip: why xdm disable ctrl+alt+f1 key when "Failed load session xxx "
[02:29] <Fenb> Greygan_: but i got a intel/nvidia how do i do then?
[02:29] <somsip> ikk-: last time I repeat it - I have no idea about xdm
[02:30] <ikk-> somsip: ok
[02:30] <Greygan_> Fenb: all nvidia cards use the nvidia driver no matter the branding on the card
[02:31] <Fenb> Greygan_: ok, but i got 1 intel and one nvidia in the laptop
[02:31] <somsip> Greygan_: isn;t there something - Optimus - that is different? Something about needing jockey? <vague>
[02:31] <Greygan_> Fenb: your laptop has 2 video cards???
[02:32] <wheatthin> Fenb, mac laptop?
[02:33] <Fenb> wheatthin: nope
[02:33] <Fenb> Greygan_: yes, hybrids
[02:33] <wheatthin> Greygan_, I think it's for power conservation.. when the laptop needs more gpu power it then switches to nvidia
[02:34] <Greygan_> Fenb: not sure then...
[02:34] <wheatthin> Fenb, I'd imagine it would be two "Device" sections in xorg.conf
[02:34] <dsnyders> Hi all.  My mail has stopped sending (It gets about 40% through a message and then fails).  Is there a log somewhere?  It's thunderbird 17.0.6
[02:35] <Greygan_> somsip: yes the Optimus line is a bit different, wasnt thinking of them.
[02:35] <somsip> Fenb: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics#NVIDIA_Optimus and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[02:36] <somsip> Greygan_: bumblebee, apparently. I knew I was vague...
[02:36] <Fenb> god, how do i copy in xterm :/
[02:37] <somsip> Fenb: drag with the mouse to highlight, go to where you want to paste, middle click
[02:38] <Fenb> somsip: thank you :)
[02:40] <Greygan_> Here is a write up on bumblebee for the Optimus line. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/bumblebee-321-released-with-ubuntu-1304.html
[02:41] <Greygan_> nevermind I see somsip beat me to it... lol
[02:41] <somsip> Greygan_: today's hints are brought to you by....CAFFEINE!
[02:41] <Greygan_> lol
[02:41] <wheatthin> and alot of patience
[02:42] <somsip> wheatthin: not so much sometimes if I'm honest...OT
[02:42] <wheatthin> lol
[02:44] <wheatthin> I wish ubuntu wouldn't try to dynamically set my monitor settings..  some times my monitor isn't recognized and gets stuck at 60hz on a crt 0.o
[02:46] <wheatthin> It makes the astigmatism seem even worse
[02:51] <somsip> wheatthin: can't you fix it in CCSM? http://is.gd/lxXsMZ
[02:52] <wheatthin> there's no compiz in gnome 3
[02:52] <FoShizz> Hi guys. I accidently deleted the location of xinitrc. Can someone read what theres says so I can fix mine?
[02:52] <Tex_Nick> wheatthin:  switch over to a newer LCD monitor ... that way linux can poll the monitor ... use that old CRT for a boat anchor ;-)
[02:52] <somsip> FoShizz:  in ~/ it is empty
[02:52] <wheatthin> lol no doubt, if I wasn't so poor i'd probably do so
[02:52] <FoShizz> its at /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[02:53] <FoShizz> just cat it pwease :)
[02:53] <sethj_> FoShizz Just a sec.
[02:53] <somsip> FoShizz: . /etc/X11/Xsession (yes, that's all except for some comments)
[02:53] <sethj_> FoShizz http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760167/
[02:53] <somsip> FoShizz: oh, shebang for sh
[02:53] <FoShizz> I just need to know is there anything under "invoke global Xsession script?
[02:54] <FoShizz> nice seth thanks1
[02:54] <FoShizz> i apprecitate it alot seth :)
[02:54] <sethj_> No problem.
[02:55] <wheatthin> Tex_Nick, I can't even afford glasses atm, so a newer lcd isn't an option atm
[02:57] <Tex_Nick> wheatthin:  ah ok i understand ... no glasses and a poor display is a pain in the patut then :-(
[02:57] <samgabbay> hiii im having a big issue i cant hear when i put the volume up for example or any ubuntu sound effects
[02:57] <FoShizz> Is it normal not to have a .Xauthority?
[02:59] <sethj_> FoShizz I have too many :O http://i.imgur.com/gPdPhsB.png
[02:59] <FoShizz> :O
[02:59] <Nautilus> A while back I saw a status sort of display someone had set up, it was almost 'tile' like in that there were maybe 4 boxes on the left half the screen and one 4x size box on the right. Each had live stats. Anyone know what program(s) that would make that easy?
[03:00] <somsip> !info conky | Nautilus
[03:00] <wheatthin> Nautilus, are you talking about Enlightenment?
[03:00] <FoShizz> For some reason I can't login. I seem to be in a login loop, where whenever I enter my password it simply black screens for a flash then goes back to the login.
[03:01] <sethj_> FoShizz: Well .Xauthority is an Xsession cookie.. so that might be the problem.
[03:01] <wheatthin> FoShizz, sounds like a wrongly configured xorg
[03:01] <Nautilus> somsip: looking
[03:01] <FoShizz> How would i go about fixing it?
[03:01] <Nautilus> wheaties: looking :)
[03:02] <Nautilus> wheatthins: ^
[03:02] <somsip> FoShizz: login in text mode and check the log files for x. ~/.xsession-errors possibly
[03:02] <somsip> !text | FoShizz
[03:02] <wheatthin> god I love that bot :P
[03:02] <FoShizz> im in tty already.
[03:03] <sethj_> FoShizz: Can you log in to the Guest account?
[03:03] <FoShizz> ill try
[03:04] <FoShizz> yep
[03:04] <FoShizz> im guest right noe
[03:04] <sethj_> OK
[03:05] <somsip> FoShizz: guest may not give the permissions you need to read the X error files, especially if they belong to your usual user. Can't you log in as your usual user in text?
[03:05] <FoShizz> yea i was just doing that
 wheaties: looking :)
[03:06] <wheaties> lol
[03:06] <wheatthin> lol
[03:06] <Nautilus> somsip & wheatthin: what I saw looked a lot like Windows tiles UI, in that it was full screen and had just rectangles of color for each area's background, then stats on top of those. Maybe one of those apps does that but it's unclear from google pics
[03:06] <wheaties> damn
[03:06] <wheaties> im that guy
[03:06] <wheaties> that guy who everyone hates because they have to tab one more damn time
[03:07] <Nautilus> heh
[03:07] <somsip> Nautilus: conky is very configurable. I get the idea most people use transparent backgrounds, but you could use big bold squares of color for that Win8 look
[03:07] <wheatthin> lol
[03:07] <somsip> Nautilus: but then again, it may not be conky...
[03:07] <Tex_Nick> wheatthin:  check out the bot's knowledge base at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <Nautilus> nod, I'll look at it some more, maybe set it up. thanks!
[03:07] <pragmaticenigma> somsip: Is there any sort of WYSIWYG editor for conky applets?
[03:07] <FoShizz> how do i find my xsession errors
[03:08] <somsip> pragmaticenigma: never looked for one so I don't kno
[03:08] <somsip> FoShizz: ~/.xsession-errors
[03:08] <FoShizz> ty
[03:09] <sere> Rainy sync server help please.. Here is all my settings and commands used already to debug cant seem to get it to connect though..http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760189/
[03:09] <somsip> Nautilus: this? Not how you described but maybe close http://is.gd/54pFfl
[03:09] <sethj_> There are also Xorg logs in /var/log
[03:10] <somsip> Nautilus: nicer ones on a google image search for 'conky metro'
[03:10] <FoShizz> not a direcotry :(
[03:11] <Nautilus> somsip: yea that could be it
[03:12] <Nautilus> is it easy to make conky widgets?
[03:12] <Nautilus> actually, a good number of mine just nee editable text
[03:12] <FoShizz> cd ~/.xsession-errors gives me no file or directory
[03:12] <somsip> Nautilus: they are just editable text :)
[03:12] <somsip> FoShizz: you cant cd to a file
[03:12] <FoShizz> oh its a file?!
[03:12] <FoShizz> lol i should have none
[03:12] <Nautilus> somsip what about a phhoto gallery widget?
[03:13] <somsip> Nautilus: no idea
[03:13] <Nautilus> s'ok
[03:16] <FoShizz> so which part am i supposed to read to you guys?
[03:17] <somsip> !pastebin | FoShizz
[03:17] <somsip> FoShizz: the last bit, where it might say EE or ERROR
[03:18] <FoShizz> fatal IO error 11 (Resource temp unavailable) on server :0.0.
[03:18] <Nautilus> hm, maybe I should make it a web app.
[03:20] <newhoa> Question: I installed a new MB/CPU/RAM, but have continued using the same HDD with Ubuntu. When Ubuntu installs, is it optimized for the hardware it's installed on? Would there be any advantage in reinstalling with the new hardware?
[03:21] <clockworks> hi what im trying to do is this, ubuntu live cd creates a desktop link "install ubuntu" that reappears after every boot even if you delete it and have a casper-rw
[03:21] <clockworks> i figured it must sit in initrd.gz
[03:21] <clockworks> but maybe it doesnt?
[03:21] <clockworks> also maybe i can just delete it on boot every time automatically
[03:21] <clockworks> whats the script that gets run earliest in the boot process? so i can add a line that deletes the desktop icon
[03:21] <clockworks> where does the damn desktop icon come from..
[03:21] <FoShizz> newhoa just update our drivers. thatll be your optimization
[03:23] <FoShizz> somsip: Are you still here?
[03:25] <newbie|2> hola
[03:25] <newbie|2> necesito ayuda
[03:25] <newbie|2> instale el skupy
[03:25] <newbie|2> skype
[03:25] <newbie|2> y no me sale en la lista de programas y cuando lo abro y kiero ke funcione
[03:25] <newbie|2> no funciona
[03:25] <newbie|2> es como si estuviera pero no esta
[03:26] <kostkon> !es | newbie|2
[03:26] <sere> no habla espaino...locento
[03:26] <Tex_Nick> !es newbie|2
[03:27] <FoShizz> #ubuntu-es es para usted
[03:27] <sere> :p
[03:27] <dacdave> How to upgrade 11.10 to current version (13.4?)?
[03:27] <xangua> !eol | dacdave
[03:28] <xangua> dacdave: or you can just make a clean install
[03:29] <FoShizz> that bot is all knowing
[03:29] <sethj_> docdave: http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[03:29] <newhoa> FoShizz: Thanks. I just didn't know if during installation certain configs were optimized for specific hardware. I figure at least the kernel is preconfigured with extra options enabled for really broad hardware support? As in, when you install Ubuntu x84_64, it is generically configured?
[03:30] <sethj_> Is there a manual for the bot?
[03:30] <kostkon> sethj_, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <newhoa> I have to say, though, I'm really impressed that I can make such drastic changes to my system and have Ubuntu/Linux handle it with no problem. Changing a single component on Windows is a nightmare, if the system will even boot.
[03:31] <clockworks> which encryption algorithm does the ubuntu rightclick > compress tool use?
[03:31] <FoShizz> newhoa those are drivers that allow for support. And yes, ubuntu does come equipped with an array for generic drivers.
[03:31] <bennis> Anybody know a good tutorial for putting firefox/flash on ubuntu GNOME remix 12.10?
[03:31] <kostkon> clockworks, you mean compression algorithm?
[03:31] <clockworks> kostkon: no, there is optional encryption
[03:32] <clockworks> in the compress tool
[03:32] <kostkon> clockworks, oh right sorry
[03:32] <clockworks> you can choose the compression algorithm, but it doesnt say anything about the encryption algorithm
[03:32] <xangua> bennis: adobe flash plugin¿
[03:33] <bennis> yes, adobe flash and mozilla firefox
[03:33] <xangua> bennis: just open software center
[03:33] <bennis> ubuntu GNOME remix 12.10 doesn't seem to support either out of the box
[03:33] <Leon> hi, im new to ubuntu and i need some help
[03:33] <FoShizz> The .xauthority is uneeded because it simply creates a new one every boot, right?
[03:33] <bennis> xangua: thank you, but i'm on a different derivative than vanilla
[03:34] <kostkon> !hi | Guest73580
[03:34] <kostkon> damn
[03:34] <kostkon> Guest73580, just ask the question
[03:36] <woo> 13.04 x64 I keep loosing my keyboard and mouse functionality
[03:38] <LeonIsNew> ok so my motherboard says it has onboard apu performance, what does this mean, does this have onboard processor or what? if so why is ubunto not loading up
[03:38] <LeonIsNew> *ubuntu
[03:39] <LeonIsNew> anyone have any info?
[03:41] <Kihokki> People are sleeping/working /waking up now
[03:41] <Nautilus> google
[03:41] <LeonIsNew> dont know what to google
[03:41] <sethj_> APU is Accelerated Processing Unit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_processing_unit
[03:41] <Nautilus> onboard apu performance
[03:42] <Nautilus> that will tell you -what- it is (graphics controller built into CPU), but not answer the ubuntu install issue
[03:42] <newhoa> FoShizz, sounds good. Thanks for the help!
[03:43] <sethj_> LeonIsNew: What motherboard/graphics card do you have?
[03:43] <kostkon> LeonIsNew, yeah you need to provide some more information about your hardware
[03:43] <LeonIsNew> let me cehck again hold on
[03:44] <kostkon> probably amd
[03:44] <Nautilus> APU seems to be a AMD term
[03:44] <Nautilus> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/apu-technology-explained/
[03:44] <newhoa> LeonIsNew: APU is what AMD calls their CPUs with integrated graphics.
[03:44] <newhoa> LeonIsNew: Also, what CPU do you have. Not all CPUs that fit in the APU boards have integrated graphics.
[03:44] <LeonIsNew> i know what an apu is
[03:44] <LeonIsNew> and i dont have a cpu atm
[03:45] <LeonIsNew> apu is cpu+gpu thats alli know
[03:45] <LeonIsNew> im waiting for my cpu to come in
[03:45] <LeonIsNew> im just confused as to what in the world my motherboard means by onboard apu performance
[03:45] <Nautilus> sales-speak for "suppots AMD APU"?
[03:46] <kostkon> yeah
[03:46] <newhoa> Yeah, it supports CPUs with integrated graphics. It doesn't have onboard CPU or graphics built in.
[03:46] <LeonIsNew> alright, well, if i have ubunto installed on my external/internal hdd
[03:46] <soy_el_pulpo> I thought that APU was a character form the Simpsons?
[03:47] <LeonIsNew> and i have it in my new machine
[03:47] <LeonIsNew> it wont start up unless i have a cpu in it?
[03:47] <newhoa> A PC won't boot without a CPU
[03:47] <kostkon> soy_el_pulpo, is it spelled "apu" though?
[03:47] <kostkon> lets c
[03:47] <LeonIsNew> okay see thats waht i wasnt sure about
[03:47] <kostkon> soy_el_pulpo, indeed
[03:47] <LeonIsNew> i know more about gpu and stuff like that
[03:47] <soy_el_pulpo> lol
[03:47] <Nautilus> the whole box of electronics is only THERE to support the CPU (APU)
[03:48] <Nautilus> the *PU -IS- the computer
[03:48] <LeonIsNew> well anyway
[03:48] <Tanathos> hola mundo
[03:48] <LeonIsNew> im brand new to ubuntu, anything i should know?
[03:48] <soy_el_pulpo> like the human body, is there to keep the brain alive...
[03:48] <Nautilus> SoylentY_: ++
[03:49] <Nautilus> soy_el_pulpo: ^
[03:49] <samgabbay> how do i set a sound theme
[03:49] <Nautilus> grumble, forgot it's a big channel
[03:49] <LeonIsNew> anything i should know about using ubuntu?
[03:49] <newhoa> Are you coming from Windows?
[03:49] <Nautilus> LeonIsNew: finish building the computer, install ubuntu, try it.
[03:50] <LeonIsNew> well ubuntu is installed on the hdd
[03:50] <bennis> i prefer the GNOME 3 version
[03:50] <LeonIsNew> and i cant exactly afford an Os atm
[03:50] <bennis> Unity i find irritating more often than not
[03:50] <alien64> #ubuntu-offtopic for this chit chat
[03:50] <Nautilus> ah you did say it's on the HD. If theres no data you want to keep, a clean install might be nice.
[03:51] <Nautilus> ubuntu is priced right though
[03:51] <LeonIsNew> ubuntu is free
[03:51] <Nautilus> yep
[03:51] <bennis> alien64 but we're talking about ubuntu, aren't we?
[03:51] <kostkon> $£€¥0.00
[03:51] <alien64> not support
[03:51] <LeonIsNew> so, what all should i know about ubuntu?
[03:52] <bennis> alien64 ah, i hadn't read the bit about official support channel
[03:52] <LeonIsNew> and when i say ubuntu is on my hdd, i mean i just installed it, today
[03:52] <Nautilus> what all should you know about toilet paper?
[03:52] <Nautilus> thats a hard Q to answer... maybe you're the bean counter at the TP company
[03:52] <kostkon> LeonIsNew, you could start from here http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[03:53] <newhoa> I would just say be patient... it takes some learning and getting used to. Don't expect it to be exactly like what you came from. And it's very customizable, so if there is something you don't like it can usually be changed (Don't like Ubuntu the Unity side dock, try installing XFCE, LXDE, or KDE or use Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu)
[03:53] <LeonIsNew> should i be worried?
[03:54] <kostkon> LeonIsNew, about what?
[03:54] <LeonIsNew> according to fedex...my cpu went from colorado, to illinois the state i live in, to kentucky
[03:54] <Nautilus> sounds about right
[03:55] <LeonIsNew> that shouldnt happen though
[03:55] <Nautilus> you might be surprised
[03:55] <xangua> !ot
[03:56] <LeonIsNew> i think im gonan head to bed, maybe my cpu will come tomorrow who knows
[03:56] <Nautilus> LeonIsNew: really, get the box together, install ubuntu clean, play with it, then come back with questions
[03:56] <newhoa> Happens all the time, don't worry. Kentucky is a big parcel hub, lots of things in surrounding states go there for sorting and then back out. Good luck with everything.
[03:57] <alien64> dudes obey channel rules or leave
[03:57] <ejv> read this http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz , fully, *then* come back with questions ;)
[03:58] <kostkon> what kind of file is that ejv?
[03:58] <ejv> man gzip
[03:58] <Nautilus> "big"
[03:58] <kostkon> ejv, yeah i know. i'm mostly worrying about its contents
[03:59] <ejv> it's not a virus, learn about the structure of the internet people lol
[04:00] <madsy> When I hook up my synthesizer to Qsynth via jackd, the normal audio from Spotify, Chrome etc via PulseAudio is silent. How can I make PulseAudio play ball with jackd?
[04:00] <ejv> per RFC 2626, as of HTTP/1.1, clients are able to receive compressed HTTP responses and send compressed requests
[04:01] <kostkon> ejv, even so, you didn't describe the contents of that page beforehand.
[04:01] <ejv> excuse me 2616*, three compression methods are available, gzip, zlib, and compress: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616
[04:02] <kostkon> ejv, it's not an easily recognisable url, like for example paste.ubuntu.com, google.com, you get the point
[04:03] <ejv> yes it is. gz is pretty widely accepted, learn the interwebs :P
[04:03] <ejv> anyways, it's a manual, a good one. bookmark it.
[04:03] <IdleOne> ejv: Please stop. kostkon you too please. The link is safe.
[04:03] <kostkon> ejv, i meant the url. anyway, it has become ot so i think let's put an end to it
[04:03] <kostkon> IdleOne, yeah sorry
[04:04] <ejv> The conversation was already over IdleOne.
[04:05] <IdleOne> ejv: yet you chose to comment one more time to me so you can get the last word. You proved your leetness. Now please stop.
[04:05] <alien64> just go to #ubuntu-offtopic not everything goes but pritty much:)
[04:06] <madsy> I think I figured out the answer to my question. You can use the PA module pulseaudio-module-jack to setup PA as a jack source
[04:12] <uw> magic time
[04:17] <devslash> im dual booting ubuntu with os x. Ubuntu automatically mounts the OS X file system but once I browser to /media/Macintosh/Users/devslash  I cant access all of the sub folders because of permissions. Is there a way to force override it ? The file system is mounted as read only which how I want it to be.
[04:20] <sere> Rainy sync server with tomboy help please..http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760189/
[04:25] <MannyVel> Help: I have a HP C7180 multifunction printer scanner. On the same workstation, the scanner works on Ubuntu but does not work on Kubuntu. Any ideas why it doesn't work on Kubuntu. Both OS's are 13.04.
[04:32] <thunder1212> hi
[04:33] <MannyVel> Help: I have a HP C7180 multifunction printer scanner. On the same workstation, the scanner works on Ubuntu but does not work on Kubuntu. Any ideas why it doesn't work on Kubuntu. Both OS's are 13.04.
[04:33] <MannyVel> Anyone?  Someone? Anybody ????    ;;;sigh;;;
[04:35] <thunder1212> I have a usb pendrive and its not showing up the out put of lsusb is< Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1f75:0916 > and also when i open disk utility the device is there and when i format drive with mbr i get this error<Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[04:37] <Greygan> MannyVel: You may want to try the #kubuntu channel...
[04:38] <Whiskey`Wonka> in my efforts to figure out my fan issues i have discovered that /proc/config.gz doesnt not exist on my install. How do i find out the flags the kernel was compiled with short of compiling my own?
[04:38] <MannyVel> Greygan <---    Oh! ok. Thanks so much. Didn't know there was on  :-
[04:38] <MannyVel> )
[04:38] <Greygan> np
[04:41] <Whiskey`Wonka> !! ah HAH
[04:41] <Whiskey`Wonka> required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[04:41] <Whiskey`Wonka> so, there is why my toshiba laptop overheats
[04:46] <somsip> Whiskey`Wonka: some patches for old kernels. Maybe they are still valid? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/toshset/+bug/644898 (comment #13)
[04:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> somsip: yea im not running a old kernel, at lest not /very/ old
[04:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> oh hell when did iswitch back to -generic?!
[04:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> 3.8.0-23-generic
[04:47] <somsip> Whiskey`Wonka: what kernel are you on
[04:47] <somsip> laaaag
[04:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> it should be -lowlatency that fixed much of my fan issues
[04:49] <somsip> Whiskey`Wonka: what version of ubuntu?
[04:49] <Whiskey`Wonka> RR
[04:50] <somsip> !info toshset | Whiskey`Wonka - is this any good?
[04:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> somsip: that is what gave me the error above about no kernel support
[04:50] <somsip> Whiskey`Wonka: ah sorry - just read that myself :/
[04:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> no problem
[04:53] <somsip> !ppa | Whiskey`Wonka but is this worth a go? https://launchpad.net/~keks9n/+archive/main
[04:55] <leetcarder> Hi :D
[04:55] <Whiskey`Wonka> somsip: well i really do nto like using untrusted sources
[04:56] <somsip> Whiskey`Wonka: hence the !ppa
[04:56] <somsip> Whiskey`Wonka: seems like the alternative is building the module yourself. I quite understand the reticence though
[04:57] <Whiskey`Wonka> i do not mind making the module
[04:57] <Whiskey`Wonka> with the config.gz missing I would have to also build the kernel, something i dislike on ubuntu
[04:57] <Whiskey`Wonka> if i was in gentoo sure
[05:03] <ChRisHansen> does anyone know why when I click on a link here on irc, since installing lubuntu, it opens an abiword document or whatever instead of firefox ? how to set my click on link in irc Konversation app to open firefox on click instead of abiword?
[05:03] <newhoa> Does anyone know how to disable window snapping (windows snapping to the edges of other windows and side of the screen) in Gnome3?
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, I don't know, but they might know in #lubuntu
[05:07] <root> bojour
[05:07] <root> bonjour
[05:07] <root> :)
[05:07] <root> qui est là ?
[05:07] <ChRisHansen> Seven_Six_Two: is it related to that then ? must it be that ? could it just be a side issue ? I also did some other things. I installed Tor, I did sommething else too, I was attempting to gksudo wiresharek, and it told me to do it another way , I had to allow normal users permission to analyze networks or whatever. and that didnt work out so well i dont think
[05:09] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, Oh it could be a number of things, but it's generally your wm that controls default launchers. It isn't likely to be related to tor or wireshark.
[05:10] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, sorry, I guess it would be "DE", not "WM"
[05:11] <ChRisHansen> Seven_Six_Two: ok
[05:11] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, What does lubuntu use? is it XFCE4?
[05:12] <timb_> Seveas: LXDE
[05:12] <timb_> Seven_Six_Two: LXDE
[05:12] <Seven_Six_Two> timb_, thanks. ChRisHansen sorry, I don't know how to do it, but it would be related to LXDE settings.
[05:14] <mob001> Hi, how to install and configure mod_jk connector in ubuntu 10.04 server. pls help on this.
[05:14] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, can you edit your ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[05:14] <nyRednek> i believe i need some help with postfix now
[05:15] <ChRisHansen> how to purge again ? like say i did the snmp-mibs downloader, and i want to purge that ? what is the command?
[05:15] <somsip> ChRisHansen: is it using the same terminal program? I know my 'click to open' for terminals is set in the terminal rc config
[05:15] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, add "browser=opera" to the end, without the quotes
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, add "browser=firefox" to the end, without the quotes
[05:16] <ChRisHansen> say what ? browser=opera ? to the end of what ? snmp-mibs downloader ? i think i did apt-get on that didnt i ?
[05:17] <sere> im getting alot of Buffer I/O error on device sdc1, logical block 44788876 on my usb western digital 1.tb drive.. is this bad?
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, you asked about clicking on a link in irc
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> sere, yes. especially if it's noisy
[05:18] <ChRisHansen> oh sorry , how to edit my local/share etc?
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> yes
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, are you asking me how to edit a file?
[05:18] <ChRisHansen> Seven_Six_Two: yes i guess so
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> is there an ubottu canned answer?
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> !ubottu edit
[05:19] <sere> Seven_Six_Two: it comes and goes..i know on both my usb 2.0 drives if a barely touch them when its on it gets disconnected
[05:19] <sere> the cables that is
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> sere, I would backup asap. do you leave them plugged in? on a UPS?
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, one moment
[05:21] <sere> Seven_Six_Two: yes they are plugged in.. whats UPS?
[05:21] <Seven_Six_Two> sere, uninterruptable power supply
[05:23] <sere> its plugged into a power supply... and i have been using it to download / watch all my movies so its getting alot of use.. i download alot to :x
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> sere, it could be dying. If you can remove it from the case and put it in to a desktop pc, you can do a low level scan of the drive,
[05:24] <johndoe__> mirror it.. easy
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, !Bash
[05:24] <Seven_Six_Two> !Bash ChRisHansen
[05:25] <ChRisHansen> Seven_Six_Two: huh ?
[05:25] <somsip> Seven_Six_Two: !bash | user
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, sorry. I don't know how to do it.
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> !Bash | ChRisHansen
[05:25] <Seven_Six_Two> somsip, thx
[05:25] <somsip> Seven_Six_Two: np
[05:26] <ChRisHansen> Seven_Six_Two: so in this link is the "how to" info on what i need to know how to edit that ~/.local/share file ?
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, Yes. It will start you out with the very basics, so that you can become easier to help in the future.
[05:28] <ChRisHansen> Seven_Six_Two: ok obviously this will be my homework for tonight. thanks and bbl tomorrow with more questions for SURE!
[05:29] <sere> Seven_Six_Two: thanks for the help.. i will get on this asap
[05:29] <thunder1212> I have a usb pendrive and its not showing up the out put of lsusb is< Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1f75:0916 > and also when i open disk utility the device is there and when i format drive with mbr i get this error<Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error>
[05:29] <Seven_Six_Two> ChRisHansen, any time!
[05:30] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, what's the device that is showing up?
[05:31] <ChRisHansen> thunder1212: hey man i been having the same issues with usb drives, but yesterday i finally got it done by using unetbootin to create the start up live usb. if you format with disks app for some reson it default creates a w95 Bootable fat-32. it puts the casper /boot/wubi folders on your usb. at least it did for mine. am still learning about Ubuntu and USB drives but be cautios with the format option on Ubuntu.
[05:31] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, what filesystem have you used, and is there only one partition?
[05:32] <thunder1212> ChRisHansen: ok will try that, thanks
[05:32] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, are you booting from the usb key?
[05:33] <Whiskey`Wonka> is there a /simple/ way to compile the ubuntu kernel??
[05:33] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: i used to but now its not formating so am not able to use ot
[05:33] <thunder1212> *it
[05:34] <Seven_Six_Two> Whiskey`Wonka, why are you compiling kernel?
[05:34] <ChRisHansen> thunder1212: dont let anyone tell you its a RAM issue, its not.
[05:34] <Whiskey`Wonka> Seven_Six_Two: to enable some things that have been leftout
[05:34] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, does it show up on another pc, or does another usb key show up when plugged into the same spot?
[05:35] <Seven_Six_Two> Whiskey`Wonka, do you need RT? drivers?
[05:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> No i need toshiba kernel supprot
[05:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> support even
[05:35] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: i have tried all that, i think there is some issue with the usb drive
[05:35] <ChRisHansen> thunder1212: no dont go there, its not that . i am still learning but i will learn the answer to this in/out error with usb drives
[05:36] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, have you tried repartitioning it without mbr and then creating single partition?
[05:36] <Seven_Six_Two> and formatting that ext3
[05:36] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[05:36] <thunder1212> ChRisHansen: dont go where?
[05:37] <Whiskey`Wonka> Seven_Six_Two: so you have a solution to compiling kernel suppor witho ut compiling the kernel??
[05:37] <Seven_Six_Two> Whiskey`Wonka, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:37] <ChRisHansen> thunder1212: I mean hardware issue blaming. i bought a brand new usb stick and got the same error, as well as my RAM is fine
[05:37] <Seven_Six_Two> Whiskey`Wonka, it's not easy, that's why I asked. Some people make that mistake unnecessarily
[05:37] <thunder1212> ChRisHansen: ok, mine is also new!
[05:38] <StarOnD> Hello everyone, I installed grub4dos on my windows computer and I need to make windows as my default distro, I think it is done by editing menu.lst,but where IS menu.lst located in windows ??
[05:38] <ChRisHansen> thunder1212: dont give up you will learn alot about drive partitioning and such solving this thing.
[05:39] <Whiskey`Wonka> Seven_Six_Two: yea its not easy. infact its stupidly complex. makes me want to go back to gentoo cept their damn issues with ATi drivers never being stable has me soured for a bit.
[05:39] <Whiskey`Wonka> this tochiba support issue with ubuntu is souring me real fast heh.
[05:39] <Whiskey`Wonka> bah im so tired i can not type
[05:39] <Seven_Six_Two> what special hardware do they have?
[05:40] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: i am trying to create bootable disk with unetboootin but the drive letter is not showing
[05:40] <Whiskey`Wonka> i have no idea what is special about it. there is NO correct ACPI support with out the toshiba kernel packages
[05:40] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, it won't show if there isn't a filesystem to mount
[05:40] <Whiskey`Wonka> and some how they were left out of the mainline ubuntu kernel and installing the toshset tools does not trigger a kernel compile for them
[05:41] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: ok any command to format it
[05:41] <Whiskey`Wonka> this isnt the first broken support setup ive found on RR
[05:41] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, do you have a gui?
[05:41] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[05:41] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: i have tried gparted also
[05:43] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, try gnome-disks
[05:43] <toobluesc> Anyone know how to create a Makefile target that is a symlink to a non-existent file and have it look at the mtime of the symlink, not its destination?
[05:43] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: i have tried the disk utility
[05:44] <malfunc> h
[05:44] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, does it show a partition or available space?
[05:44] <R44TWR4NGNULL> HI
[05:44] <malfunc> 
[05:44] <R44TWR4NGNULL> EVERYONE
[05:46] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: disk utility shows not partitioned device: /dev/sdb model: SRT USB 3.0 JET 16G  Volumes: Unknown 16GB
[05:46] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, can you select it and create a new partition?
[05:47] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: there is an option to format volume and format drive  but both the options give an error as i have said earlier
[05:47] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, you don't format yet. You have to make a partition first.
[05:48] <Seven_Six_Two> hmmm...That's not right. It shows that you can format an unpartitioned device?
[05:48] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: how? the format drive option  erases and partitions the drive
[05:49] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: right.
[05:50] <Seven_Six_Two> What does Contents say? Unallocated Space (Master Boot Record)
[05:50] <R44TWR4NGNULL> mbr
[05:50] <R44TWR4NGNULL> basic disk
[05:52] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, in disk manager, what happens if you use the "+" just under the blue box/
[05:53] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: can i share a screenshot with you and how?
[05:55] <R44TWR4NGNULL> ya thunder1212
[05:55] <thunder1212> R44TWR4NGNULL: how?
[05:55] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, yes, but I don't know how. maybe a pic sharing service
[05:55] <R44TWR4NGNULL> ya seven six two saying true
[05:56] <Seven_Six_Two> R44TWR4NGNULL, please don't be like that. you're not adding anything.
[05:57] <SCC> Hey guys
[05:58] <R44TWR4NGNULL> seven six two what do u mean
[05:58] <R44TWR4NGNULL> ?
[05:58] <SCC> can you tell me what the difference is between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu DVD?
[05:59] <xangua> SCC: the dvd only contains more languages
[05:59] <R44TWR4NGNULL> i think ubuntu desktop is install in pc
[05:59] <SCC> that's it?
[05:59] <R44TWR4NGNULL> and ubuntu dvd is live os
[05:59] <xangua> well actually ubuntu no longer fits on a cd right¿
[06:00] <SCC> but if you want to view webpages or do writing in other languages, you still need the DVD right?
[06:00] <R44TWR4NGNULL> hm but u can take care of optical media
[06:00] <R44TWR4NGNULL> of os
[06:00] <reisio> xangua: the images that don't don't, those that do do
[06:01] <iceroot> SCC: in the end both will deliver the same system
[06:01] <SCC> so it doesn't contain more applications than the DVD
[06:01] <SCC> gotcha
[06:02] <iceroot> SCC: every ubuntu system can deliver the same system, you can install in every ubuntu version all the software packages
[06:02] <SCC> yea, i've just gotten a x61s and i'm debating to install ubuntu 12.04 or opensuse
[06:02] <iceroot> SCC: you can try both with a live-cd and decide yourself which system you like more
[06:02] <SCC> gotcha, via the network right?
[06:02] <iceroot> SCC: you install applications via the network, yes
[06:02] <iceroot> !repos | SCC
[06:03] <reisio> maybe one day they'll stop calling them DVD images just because they don't fit on CDs, which even the smaller images frequently no longer do :p
[06:04] <SCC> thanks iceroot and xangua
[06:04] <SCC> i already have the desktop iso, and i'm downloading the dvd right now. looks like it should stop the download
[06:05] <iceroot> SCC: yes
[06:05] <SCC> heh yea
[06:05] <satriani1> hi guys.. i have one quick question that bothers me. Does pidgin's facebook plugin works at all?? (i know the other ways to connect through, but i think the plugin is wasted...)
[06:05] <SCC> save more bandwidth
[06:06] <satriani1> does anyone knows if pidgin's facebook plugin works ??? !!
[06:07] <reisio> satriani1: probably someone knows
[06:07] <reisio> I thought facebook just used xmpp
[06:07] <SCC> one more thing, how hard is it to develop a desktop environment
[06:07] <reisio> SCC: not hard at all
[06:07] <reisio> potentially tedious, however :)
[06:08] <satriani1> reisio: yeah.. i know, but the pluggin has a lot of nice feautures!! :)
[06:08] <SCC> haha yea
[06:08] <SCC> do you guys know if there's book on this?
[06:08] <SCC> or should I just read through something like gnome's codebase and reverse engineer it
[06:09] <corehook> hi all
[06:09] <corehook> folks need help
[06:09] <corehook> after reboot my server with nginx stopped sending back packets
[06:10] <greyhatpython> hey guys i installed ubuntu 13.04 Server but it's not showing the eth0. I tried to configure /etc/network/interfaces but still it shows there's no eth0  device when i run ifup eth0 command. Please Help. Thank You
[06:10] <corehook> by tcpdump i see incoming packets
[06:10] <corehook> iptables rules is clean
[06:10] <corehook> greyhatpython: hi, dmesg|grep eth
[06:10] <corehook> btw ghp nice book :)
[06:10] <greyhatpython> trying now.....
[06:10] <reisio> ghp?
[06:10] <aeon-ltd> SCC: think about lxde, it's essentially lxpanel+openbox+assortment of applications, and it would be considered a DE even though it's not as truly cohesive as unity
[06:11] <reisio> greyhatpython: what's in /sys/class/net/ ?
[06:12] <greyhatpython> hi corehook it's detecting the hardware
[06:12] <reisio> oh, ghp
[06:12] <reisio> grAy, innit? :p
[06:12] <greyhatpython> But i am not sure why it's running the network i have configured auto eth0 dhcp
[06:12] <greyhatpython> reisio checking now
[06:13] <greyhatpython> reisio it shows em1 lo vibr0
[06:13] <greyhatpython> But no eth0...
[06:15] <SCC> aeon-ltd  you are right. i'm fairly good at c#, and I was thinking about writing one with it. always in the back of my mind. never seriously looked into it
[06:15] <corehook> ghp==grayhatpython
[06:15] <reisio> greyhatpython: it's possible it could be one of those you want
[06:15] <demonoid_me> 3800216120168
[06:15] <demonoid_me> 3800216120168
[06:15] <FloodBot1> demonoid_me: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:15] <SCC> but you are right, it's essentially just those things
[06:15] <reisio> I don't keep up with Ubuntu's network device naming
[06:15] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: http://troll.ws/image/4fbcf2ee
[06:15] <greyhatpython> reisio i think i need to rename em1 to eth0?
[06:16] <reisio> possibly the reverse, someone else will know
[06:16] <demonoid_me> 3800216120168
[06:17] <greyhatpython> i don't know why  server is not detecting eth0 while the desktop detects seamlessly....
[06:18] <reisio> potentially because not using eth0 is more beneficial to servers, which might have more network devices
[06:18] <reisio> greyhatpython: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[06:18] <reisio> greyhatpython: but again, I don't know what Ubuntu does in this regard
[06:18] <Grivvel> Does anyone know if I have to do anything special to get /etc/pam.d/remote working in Ubuntu? I created one, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Is this file just not supported?
[06:18] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, can you show me the 500 selected?
[06:18] <greyhatpython> ok i am checking
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, are you on 12.04
[06:19] <reisio> Grivvel: what is it you'd like it to do?
[06:19] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: yes
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, I'm on 13.04, so yours might look different than mine.
[06:20] <Grivvel> reisio: I'm trying to use the google-authenticator auth module with shellinabox
[06:21] <reisio> complex
[06:21] <Grivvel> reisio: I have it working when connecting with normal ssh, but shellinabox seems to bypass that and just ask for a password.
[06:22] <SCC> thanks again guys
[06:23] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, here's what mine looks like:  http://troll.ws/image/126b2f56
[06:25] <hygl_> hi, I do not get any twitter updates in gwibber (12.04) since a day or two, neither by manual refresh nor  automatically?
[06:25] <hygl_> has anyone a hint?
[06:26] <thunder1212> hi
[06:26] <reisio> hygl_: either your software locally changed a day or two ago, or the upstream servers' did
[06:26] <reisio> thunder1212: hi
[06:27] <hygl_> reisio: thought perhaps it would have been a known issue.
[06:27] <Seven_Six_Two> hygl_, try deleting and re-adding the account in gwibber.
[06:27] <greyhatpython> reisio nothing works.....
[06:27] <reisio> greyhatpython: for what?
[06:28] <greyhatpython> reisio i actually skipped network configuration during the installation of ubuntu server
[06:28] <thunder1212> Seven_Six_Two: yes?
[06:28] <greyhatpython> is that affecting the network eth0 not being enabled?
[06:29] <Coburn> try a ipconfig eth0 up
[06:29] <Coburn> if the iface is down, it's not going to be able to transmit data
[06:29] <Coburn> sorry, ifconfig
[06:29] <Coburn> ipconfig is windows >_<
[06:30] <clockworks> ifconfig is deprecated
[06:30] <clockworks> please use iproute2
[06:30] <Seven_Six_Two> thunder1212, oh that's all. I don't have any further suggestions. It does seem to be good and borked.
[06:30] <reisio> oh right
[06:30] <reisio> greyhatpython: maybe you should talk to the server channel: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*
[06:31] <Seven_Six_Two> greyhatpython, does anything show up for ifconfig -a
[06:34] <hygl_> Seven_Six_Two:  now gwibber crashes when I try to readd the account.
[06:35] <Seven_Six_Two> hygl_, looks like a bug. can you kill gwibber and restart it from the terminal
[06:36] <greyhatpython> Seven_Six_Two it's showing em1 for eth0
[06:36] <Seven_Six_Two> greyhatpython, I'm not sure what you mean by em1
[06:36] <greyhatpython> well it's showing like that
[06:36] <greyhatpython> there's now eth0
[06:36] <greyhatpython> no eth0
[06:37] <greyhatpython> lo and vibr0 listed
[06:37] <Seven_Six_Two> oh, it shows em1 where you would expect to see eth0.
[06:37] <Seven_Six_Two> can you do    sudo service networking restart
[06:37] <Seven_Six_Two> and tell me what happens
[06:38] <Seven_Six_Two> clockworks, hey I didn't know it was dep. thanks.
[06:39] <greyhatpython> Seven_Six_Two it's shows network is running
[06:39] <gotwig> how can I use smartscopes to do calculations in the dash
[06:39] <hygl_> Seven_Six_Two: Found the reason: https://dev.twitter.com/blog/api-v1-retirement-final-dates
[06:41] <reisio> greyhatpython: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035670.html
[06:41] <reisio> so, as conjectured
[06:41] <hygl_> think gwibber still uses 1.0 api.
[06:42] <Seven_Six_Two> hygl_, perhaps the new api is used in 13.04's gwibber
[06:42] <clockworks> np Seven_Six_Two
[06:42] <hygl_> Seven_Six_Two: didn't they replace gwibber with the friends app in 13.04?
[06:43] <Seven_Six_Two> hygl_, I have no idea. I don't have friends.
[06:44] <gotwig> Seven_Six_Two, :O
[06:44] <Seven_Six_Two> gotwig, no need to worry. It's by choice.  ;)
[06:48] <facetoe> Hello, can someone please tell me the default Ruby version on Ubuntu?
[06:50] <barzogh> ruby -v : this command shows what you are asking for
[06:50] <facetoe> I'm not on Ubuntu at the moment unfortunately
[06:50] <SwedeMike> facetoe: in 12.04 it seems to be 1.8, 1.9.1 and 1.9.3 which is available for installation
[06:50] <facetoe> SwedeMike: Thankyou
[06:51] <jazzon> ckServ identify klr669
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> facetoe: like barzogh says: lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ ruby -v
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> ruby 1.9.3p194 (2012-04-20 revision 35410) [x86_64-linux]
[06:52] <zainnuri> hi
[06:54] <reisio> hi zainnuri
[06:54] <thefunc5> not sure if this is the place to ask, but with running an openvpn server on ubuntu, if i configure it to use a PSK could i just setup the clients to authenticate via l2tp+psk? or would that not work at all, my understanding is quite rough.
[06:54] <zainnuri> hi reisio
[07:09] <mister2> anybody know why i get a "not in software sources" error when i try to install flashplugin-installer on ubuntu GNOME remix 13.04?
[07:09] <mister2> google brings up irrelevant search results
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> mister2: did you check the boxes during install: install third party software?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> mister2: you can try install ubuntu-restricted-extras aswell
[07:12] <mister2> lotuspsychje i'm on a live install, but i checked all the source boxes including multiverse
[07:13] <mister2> lotuspsychje got the same error, i think it has something to do with being live or on the GNOME derivative
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> mister2: you havent complete your setup?
[07:14] <mister2> lotuspsychje i have no internal hard drive
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> ic
[07:15] <mister2> inconvenient
[07:15] <mister2> i mostly want to fix the flash issue then i don't mind so much... i can mostly get around this by just downloading the stuff i wanna watch off of some youtube downloading site so it works to an extent...
[07:19] <loganlee> how to install ubuntu?
[07:21] <reisio> loganlee: download the install image, boot it
[07:21] <loganlee> ic
[07:23] <n-iCe> guys any idea why I can play audio files in Ubuntu? I mean they play, but I cannot listen, volume is up since I can hear youtube videos.
[07:23] <reisio> n-iCe: what's an audio file, then?
[07:23] <loganlee> install mplayer
[07:24] <n-iCe> a mp3 file
[07:24] <n-iCe> discs
[07:24] <n-iCe> Does not play audicius rhythmbox
[07:24] <n-iCe> vlc
[07:24] <reisio> n-iCe: you might need to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:24] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:24] <n-iCe> I installed it
[07:24] <n-iCe> do I need to restart?
[07:26] <loganlee> 항문성교
[07:26] <Godricglow> how  do I put @ in a bash command ?
[07:26] <Godricglow> its a part of password but bash looks at it as domain
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> howto add a w7 usb on virtualbox?
[07:27] <reisio> Godricglow: try \@
[07:27] <reisio> loganlee: yes please :)
[07:27] <reisio> lotuspsychje: why usb?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> reisio: because i only got a win7 usb install fixed
[07:28] <Godricglow> \@ didn't work
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> resio: its on a netbook without cdrom
[07:28] <Godricglow> that escape sequence in not working
[07:28] <reisio> lotuspsychje: well, you can (make sure guest additions are installed? and) connect the usb device from the menu at the top
[07:29] <reisio> lotuspsychje: or dd the usb to an image and mount that image from the menu at the top
[07:29] <reisio> ask #vbox
[07:30] <reisio> Godricglow: yeah, actually '@' should be fine on its own, IIRC
[07:30] <reisio> Godricglow: your problem is probably something else
[07:30] <loganlee> how to install ubuntu inside ubuntu?
[07:30] <reisio> loganlee: VirtualBox would be one way
[07:32] <Godricglow> reisio: o I am installing jekyll and its giving
[07:32] <Godricglow> reisio:
[07:33] <Godricglow> reisio: problem in that network is proxied and username and pass contains @
[07:33] <Godricglow> reisio: bash is not recognizing it
[07:33] <reisio> okay, maybe there is some artificial/silly password requirement, then
[07:33] <Godricglow> i used %40 with apt.config
[07:33] <Godricglow> it worked
[07:33] <Godricglow> not with gems
[07:34] <Godricglow> reisio:
[07:34] <Godricglow> reisio: but I have to follow that requirement
[07:34] <reisio> hrmm?
[07:38] <ztyuio> hello there
[07:38] <loganlee> hi
[07:38] <ztyuio> a question ?
[07:40] <ztyuio> anyone there ?
[07:40] <vedic> Is there any way I can do programmatically, i.e. I write a city name and I get timezone of that city?
[07:41] <arquebus> !ask
[07:41] <loganlee> !ronaldo
[07:41] <reisio> vedic: so many ways
[07:41] <reisio> vedic: none so much to do with Ubuntu specifically :)
[07:42] <reisio> vedic: and don't cross post :)
[07:42] <loganlee> !wine
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio: im gonna download an iso, might be easier to add in virtualbox tnx anyway
[07:43] <llutz> vedic: 1 way: see geonames.org, use their API, write a short script for it
[07:43] <edag0> Do you think trying to install nvidia drivers in an ubuntu VM would be a good way to try them ( Because of previus expierences, all my system crashed )
[07:43] <ztyuio> well i got a file like FMDUE103|FMDUE581|FMDUE123
[07:44] <vedic> llutz: ok, looking at it
[07:44] <loganlee> edag0 need to allocate video ram
[07:44] <reisio> edag0: it'd probably be quite complicated to emulate nvidia hardware to utilize them
[07:45] <edag0> ohh ok. I just don't want to reinstall all my programs if something faill again ( 5th time )
[07:46] <ztyuio> well i got a file like FMDUE103|FMDUE581| if i would liket to add something like this FMDUE555 after | what i have to do  ?
[07:46] <ztyuio> without open the file using vi
[07:46] <llutz> ztyuio: echo whatever >> file
[07:46] <ztyuio> let me check
[07:46] <edag0> I guess I'll be ok with intel graphics
[07:47] <edag0> for a while
[07:48] <loganlee> how to power off ubuntu
[07:49] <Corey> sudo poweroff
[07:49] <Corey> sudo shutdown -h now
[07:49] <vlt> sudo halt
[07:49] <edag0> loganlee - sudo shutdown -h now
[07:49] <loganlee> ic
[07:49] <ztyuio> perfect working  but not working  as well as i expected llutz
[07:50] <ztyuio> file name : file.conf  it contains this on :  FMDUE103|FMDUE581|FMDUE123
[07:53] <loganlee> 1/2 + 3/4 = ?
[07:53] <llutz> 5/4
[07:53] <loganlee> :)
[07:53] <llutz> ztyuio: and?
[07:54] <ztyuio> when you do echo FMDUE123 >> file.conf it write FMDUE123 under this line  : FMDUE103|FMDUE581|FMDUE123
[07:54] <ztyuio> how to  llutz
[07:54] <ztyuio> but i want next to it
[07:54] <llutz> ztyuio: echo -n whatever >> file
[07:54] <ztyuio> how to do ?
[07:54] <llutz> ztyuio: make sure your file doesn't contain a trailing newline
[07:56] <ztyuio> echo -n not working too
[07:56] <ztyuio> i think you don't understand my question
[07:56] <ztyuio> let me explain you again
[07:56] <llutz> ztyuio: so your file has a trailing newline. use sed to replace it with the text you want to add
[07:57] <ztyuio> i don't want to replace anything
[07:57] <ztyuio> i simply would like to add some new thing
[07:58] <ztyuio> hold down
[07:59] <ztyuio> well this is my file list : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760651/
[08:01] <ztyuio> on line one i would like to add this : /bin/false next to this : root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash to have this as result : root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash/bin/false how to do ?
[08:02] <qin> ztyuio: whatever you do, you will be in trouble
[08:02] <llutz> ztyuio: you don't
[08:02] <ztyuio> you don't or you can't ?
[08:02] <llutz> ztyuio: you don't
[08:02] <ztyuio> this is just an example
[08:02] <ztyuio> don't worry about
[08:02] <ztyuio> it
[08:02] <ztyuio> it is just a example
[08:03] <ztyuio> using sed or echo how to  add  something next to particular area ?
[08:03] <ztyuio> on a file
[08:03] <ztyuio> how to do ?
[08:04] <vlt> ztyuio: Sounds horrible but sed 's/foo/bar' should do it.
[08:04] <llutz> sed -ir 's/(root.*)$/\1\:addsomething_and_be_prepared_to_break_stuff/' file
[08:04] <llutz> ztyuio: man sed
[08:05] <streulma> does someone know someting about openvpn ?
[08:05] <vlt> streulma: Nobody knows anyting about openvpn
[08:06] <RAJ_> vlt are you sure about every one
[08:06] <streulma> I have a question about vboxnet0 (virtualbox) and openvpn
[08:07] <vlt> RAJ_: Yes. The first rule of openvpn.
[08:07] <RAJ_> wwell i know nothing about it but it seems you know a lot about it and hiding :P
[08:08] <vlt> RAJ_: You know I have to kill you now.
[08:08] <vlt> !ot | vlt
[08:08] <johndoe__> lmao
[08:08] <RAJ_> killing me isnt easy
[08:08] <vlt> sudo kill -9 RAJ_
[08:09] <RAJ_> lol
[08:09] <vlt> damn, RAJ_ is a zombie
[08:09] <RAJ_> you misssed the shot
[08:09] <RAJ_> well i have an issue
[08:10]  * vlt didn’t miss RAJ_ completely at least
[08:10] <RAJ_> actually i tried a lot but couldnt connect my micromax usb modem "mmx352g 3g "
[08:11] <vlt> RAJ_: Does it appear listed in `lsusb`?
[08:11] <RAJ_> yes
[08:11] <qin> ?
[08:11] <johndoe__> usb 3.0 port?
[08:12] <RAJ_> no its 2.0
[08:12] <johndoe__> ah
[08:15] <RAJ_> vlt
[08:16] <ztyuio> sorry for the delay i got sed: -e expression #1, char 18: unknown option to `s'
[08:18] <ztyuio> sorry for the delay i got sed: -e expression #1, char 18: unknown option to `s' llutz
[08:19] <emx> is there an mta that simply saves sent mails (e.g. by php) to files instead of sending them to the smtp-server?
[08:23] <llutz> emx: read about smtp-sink, part of postfix
[08:24] <emx> llutz, thanks
[08:26] <hron84> Hi! How can I prevent my system to upgrade automatically to package from PPA?
[08:26] <hron84> I know the way is apt pinning
[08:26] <llutz> !pinning | hron84
[08:26] <hron84> llutz: yeah i know
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> hron84: could remove the ppa
[08:26] <hron84> but i do not know what priority can i set
[08:27] <boydoy> h! any suggestion to how i can make an mail server? either out of the box base on ubuntu?
[08:27] <hron84> ActionParsnip: i don't want to do it. I would like to keep track packages what I installed from there (synaptic can mark these for me) but I do not want slient upgrades
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> can i download vbox extension pack from apt-get?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> to support usb 2.0
[08:28] <RAJ_> anyone knows how to connect  mmx352g 3g modem to ubuntu
[08:28] <hron84> lotuspsychje: not, but you can download it from virtualbox
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> hron84: ok lemme check the site
[08:31] <Simson-san> Hello
[08:31] <RAJ_> hello simson'
[08:31] <RAJ_> simson *
[08:31] <Simson-san> how can i ensure that my etherpad-lite upstart conf starts only after mysql has started?
[08:32] <svenx> does ubuntu have a metamirror with geoip support that gives me a nearby archive mirror, like http.debian.net?
[08:32] <svenx> i need it for debootstrap (for sources.list i'll use 'deb mirror://...')
[08:32] <Simson-san> etherpad-lite fails to start: [2013-06-13 03:04:57.928] [ERROR] console - ERROR: Problem while initalizing the database
[08:32] <Simson-san> [2013-06-13 03:04:57.932] [ERROR] console - Error: connect ECONNREFUSED
[08:33] <RAJ_> it seems like ubuntu have lots of issues and a few issue solver
[08:34] <llutz> Simson-san: see upstart-cookbook "start on started mysql"  (start depends on other service)
[08:34] <MonkeyDust> RAJ_  do you know any system or anything at all that has no issues?
[08:34] <Simson-san> ok
[08:35] <vlt> RAJ_: Making a certain device work is usually the kernel’s business.
[08:35] <ztyuio> how to parse something on a file using find command ?
[08:35] <RAJ_> monkeydust windows has less issue and many issue solver
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> hron84: tnx the pack install worked, but still not able to catch my external drives
[08:35] <vlt> RAJ_: Does a driver for your device exist in any kernel tree?
[08:35] <vlt> RAJ_: Windows has what?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> hron84: oh it did found it tnx
[08:36] <vlt> RAJ_: Then I recommend using that instead.
[08:36] <RAJ_> nvlt nvm actually i know nothing about kernel
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> RAJ_  windows has less issues? or less issues solved?
[08:37] <RAJ_> vlt i want to learn ubuntu, not because its free, its because i can learn basics in it easily and explore things
[08:38] <vlt> RAJ_: Ok, please be careful with expression liek yours regarding Windows and issues.
[08:38] <vlt> RAJ_: Do you know what the linux kernel is?
[08:38] <RAJ_> monkeydust lets argue, but everyone knows windows is more user friendly than linux/ubuntu is
[08:38] <DJones> !ot | RAJ_
[08:38] <llutz> RAJ_: hrhr, good joke, time to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <vlt> RAJ_: No, it heavily depends on the *users*!
[08:39] <RAJ_> vlt i just know there is something called kerner thats all
[08:40] <MonkeyDust> RAJ_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[08:41] <RAJ_> ty monkeydust, i am scared od getting boooted from here, so i wont argue anymore
[08:41] <RAJ_> vlt do you have any idea, i shall appreciate you help, if you could guide me to connect mmx usb modem to my ubuntu 12.20
[08:42] <RAJ_> 12.10*
[08:42] <vlt> RAJ_: You’re welcome to argue w/o being kicked in #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[08:42] <quessst> lol
[08:42] <Nitrodex> hello
[08:43] <vlt> RAJ_: You have to find out whether someone has written a driver for your specific device that has been included in the main kernel tree.
[08:43] <vlt> RAJ_: Take the device id from lsusb and google it.
[08:44] <MonkeyDust> RAJ_  this may help to convince you that it's not all that bad and I end discussion here http://www.cbronline.com/news/nasa-opts-for-linux
[08:45] <RAJ_> vlt : i have googled about it, i have got the procedure but i am stuck at 3rd step
[08:45] <llutz> ztyuio: find ... | grep pattern            or grep -ri pattern path/*
[08:46] <RAJ_> monkeydust: thanks this is really convincing for advanced users
[08:46] <ztyuio> what is pattern ?
[08:47] <llutz> ztyuio: the pattern you search for
[08:47] <ztyuio> ok
[08:48] <ztyuio> and what do you mean by find ... | grep pattern      find ... | grep pattern
[08:48] <ztyuio> ...
[08:48] <ztyuio> ?
[08:48] <vlt> ztyuio: man find
[08:49] <vlt> ztyuio: man grep
[08:51] <dfghjk76567> ubuntu 12.04.2 system is not booting no error or anything just stops at the ubuntu screen with dots and does not boot further. running on my laptop dell vostro 1450
[08:52] <ChRisHansen> can someone help me understand what this means? i located my home folder but there is just other folders/ how to save text to my home folder ?"Copy Paste and Save as flip.pl in your home folder the following"
[08:52] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: ?
[08:53] <ChRisHansen> I know how to copy and paste ok , but how do I copy paste and then Save as plip.pl to "home folder"?
[08:53] <llutz> ChRisHansen: "gedit ~/flip.pl"  then copy/paste the text in, save, done
[08:53] <ChRisHansen> *flip.pl whatever
[08:53] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: ubuntu 12.04.2 system is not booting no error or anything just stops at the ubuntu screen with dots and does not boot further. running on my laptop dell vostro 1450
[08:53] <dfghjk76567> llutz: ubuntu 12.04.2 system is not booting no error or anything just stops at the ubuntu screen with dots and does not boot further. running on my laptop dell vostro 1450
[08:54] <llutz> !patience | dfghjk76567
[08:55] <ChRisHansen> llutz: oh , so i need to run the "gedit ~/whateverfile.whateverextension" and then inside there i copy paste save .. but how to save once i have the text copied in there ?
[08:55] <llutz> ChRisHansen: gedit is an editor with gui, it has a menu with a "save" option i guess
[08:56] <ChRisHansen> oh ok , Chris hansen needs to learn about gedit then thank you
[08:56] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: manybe you can boot from a live usb ?
[08:56] <llutz> ChRisHansen: from terminal you could use "nano ~/flip.pl" then c&p text in, ctrl-x to save/quit
[08:57] <llutz> ChRisHansen: you can use whatever editor you like to store text like that, just avoid using ms-office with wine :)
[08:57] <ChRisHansen> llutz: so this ~/flip.pl already exists and i am just copying this text in there so i can run the flip text thing? or i am creating the flip.pl as i use the nano command ?
[08:57] <exnntech> In need of help
[08:58] <llutz> ChRisHansen: if ~/flip.pl already exists, it will be opened. if not, it gets created
[08:58] <exnntech> How do I setup multiple IP addresses?
[08:58] <ChRisHansen> llutz: oh wow, nice to know that , in theory.
[08:59] <exnntech> (Sorry for intruding chat)
[08:59] <hd5770> can some one make a 700mb img of ubuntu
[08:59] <exnntech> Why?
[08:59] <hd5770> coz i only got 700mb disks
[08:59] <llutz> !mini | hd5770
[09:00] <DJones> hd5770: The iso's are designed to fit on a dvd now, there's not enough space to put them on a cd, you can use the Minimal CD image if necessary, or use a USB stick to install from
[09:00] <exnntech> So how would I have ubuntu server on multiple IP addresses?
[09:00] <hd5770> whats the best version to go for i just want to play around with it really
[09:01] <hd5770> latest?
[09:01] <k1l_> hd5770: why dont you just take a live-usb-stick?
[09:01] <MonkeyDust> exnntech  there's also #ubuntu-server
[09:01] <hd5770> USB DOES NOT WORK
[09:01] <exnntech> I know but nobody replies
[09:01] <hd5770> tryed meny times
[09:01] <k1l_> hd5770: choose 13.04, which is the latest
[09:01] <hd5770> just get droped at boot to boot>
[09:02] <k1l_> hd5770: no need for caps!
[09:02] <ztyuio> very basic question i
[09:02] <hd5770> k1l_ ill do as i want thank you
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> hd5770  what happens when you try to boot from USB ?
[09:02] <Baribal> Hi. I just installed Raring on my laptop and noticed something... disturbing. In the "The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates"-dialog, where did the "I'll do that later"-button and the "close"-windowdecorator go??
[09:02] <Guest37615> 1
[09:02] <hd5770> i get droped to a boot cmd
[09:02] <ztyuio> i simply would like to add something on a file which contains several line
[09:03] <hd5770> as it cant find the boot img and it wants me to find it
[09:03] <DJones> hd5770: Is the computer fairly recent, if its an older machine with limited memory, you may be better with Lubuntu or Xubuntu rather than Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> ztyuio  echo blahblah >> your_file
[09:03] <ztyuio> what i would like to add is something on the end of the line
[09:03] <ztyuio> how tod .
[09:03] <hd5770> Current System Configuration —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[09:03] <hd5770> Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional, Service Pack 1 up for 3 hours, 2 minutes 9 seconds
[09:03] <hd5770> CPU/RAM: 6x AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor with Currently 3187 of 8190MB in use which is 38.91%
[09:03] <hd5770> Storage System: 588.69GB Internet Connection: n/a
[09:03] <hd5770> Display System: 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series using a Default monitor at 1920x1080 32bit color 60Hz refresh
[09:03] <FloodBot1> hd5770: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <ztyuio> ech blahblah >> your_file will not work
[09:03] <ztyuio> it will add blahblah on the end of the file
[09:03] <k1l_> ztyuio: open a text editor like nano and add the stuff there
[09:04] <ztyuio> what i would like to add is at the end of  the first  line only
[09:04] <ztyuio> are you k1l_  joking ?
[09:04] <llutz> ztyuio: sed -ir 's/$/whatever-to-be-added/1' file
[09:05] <ztyuio> llutz: explain me what you command do N?
[09:05] <llutz> ztyuio: man sed
[09:05] <param_> hi
[09:05] <llutz> ztyuio: replace newline of th e1st line with some text
[09:05] <param_> whats the name of software like we have outlook in windows, whats there in ubuntu ?
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> param_  thunderbird, evolution
[09:06] <vj9252> thunderbird param
[09:06] <DJones> param_: Email client? Thunderbird or Evolution
[09:06] <Nitrodex> hi all
[09:06] <param_> ok
[09:06] <vj9252> hi Nitrodex
[09:06] <llutz> s/newline/EOL/
[09:07] <ztyuio> llutz: i don't want to replace anything
[09:08] <llutz> ztyuio: you want
[09:08] <invalid> hi..all
[09:08] <vj9252> u don't want but how would u know last of line
[09:08] <llutz> ztyuio: replacing EOL = adding stuff to a line
[09:09] <llutz> ztyuio: try the sed command given above without -i  to test
[09:12] <BlackPanx> i have a question about leap second issue. Can i have one global NTP server and have that one be aware of Leap second that potentially happens and my other ntp clients would be correctly handled, when they connect to it ?
[09:14] <ztyuio> are you joking llutz ?
[09:14] <ztyuio> this is the output of your command : [testuser@pc2 ~]$ cat file                                                     root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash                                                  daemon:x:1:1:daemon:/usr/sbin:/bin/sh                                            bin:x:2:2:bin:/bin:/bin/sh                                                       sys:x:3:3:sys:/dev:/bin/sh                                                    
[09:14] <llutz> ztyuio: no, why?
[09:14] <ztyuio> wiat
[09:15] <ztyuio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760808/
[09:15] <ztyuio> here
[09:15] <llutz> ztyuio: well an messing with /etc/passwd is a nice way to break things
[09:16] <ztyuio> well do you understand ?
[09:16] <ztyuio> what is the probleme is
[09:16] <llutz> ztyuio: grml, drop the "-r"
[09:17] <ztyuio> i simply asking you to add bashwhatever-to-be-added  and your command add whatever-to-be-added    in everywhere
[09:18] <Ben64> ztyuio: it added stuff to the end... which is what you wanted
[09:18] <llutz> ztyuio: sed  '1 s/$/whatever-to-be-added/' file      to add text to the end of first line of file
[09:19] <ChRisHansen> I am running lubuntu and can not open links on irc into firefox with a click, instead it opens a abiword document. i wanted to change this, so i want to edit local/share/applications/default.list i think , but when i gedit this or nano this, i just get a blank gedit or a blank nanoscreen? how to do this ?
[09:20] <llutz> ztyuio: ah now i see the problem. my bad, wrong paste from a line used before.
[09:22] <Matthew> any one here?
[09:22] <ChRisHansen> Matthew: type your wuestiona dnwait
[09:22] <RAJ_> mathew i think we have more than one in the list
[09:23] <williangliao> Matthew: +1
[09:24] <zhuzhenfeng> hello
[09:24] <pilsa> hi ... using synaptic package manager on 12.04 i just wanted to install 'httrack'. however there is a warning "You are about to install software that cant be authenticated blablabla ...". never had this before. its a package from the ubuntu repositories, so why this warning. what should i do?
[09:25] <k1l_> pilsa: can you run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade" in terminal and show the output in a pastebin?
[09:25] <dfghjk76567> ubuntu 12.04.2 system is not booting no error or anything just stops at the ubuntu screen with dots and does not boot further. running on my laptop dell vostro 1450
[09:26] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: hey man it sounds like you need to change your boot priority and boot from usb bro
[09:26] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: then what?
[09:26] <pilsa> k1l_, unfortunately not. right now i'm on a volume limited intenet connection and dont want to waste volume on a system update/upgrade.
[09:26] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: then reinstall Ubuntu
[09:27] <ballock> I have an interesting apt-get behaviour on 12.04 64-bit
[09:27] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: :) wow great but what is the problem that its not booting because i made no change anywhere?
[09:28] <ballock> I am running apt-get remove sun-java6-bin and it offers me to install 149 packages
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> ballock  use pastebin to show it to the channel
[09:28] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: and what if this is repeated?
[09:28] <ballock> mostly :i386
[09:28] <zhuzhenfeng> sorry
[09:29] <pilsa> k1l_, interesting, its not specific to "httrack" but other packages, too. system corrupted?
[09:29] <zhuzhenfeng> what's this
[09:29] <ballock> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5760833/
[09:29] <pilsa> k1l_, i'll do the update/upgrade later. thx.
[09:29] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: then get to another computer with a new usb and create a live USB bootable drive using unetbootin and a good download of Ubuntu "whatever distro". you can check your distroiso for md5sum first to see if its good
[09:31] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: is there some issue with newer ubuntu versions and dell laptops?
[09:31] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: did you do a clean install or are you installing along side of windows etc? did you do a wubi.exe install?
[09:31] <ztyuio> llutz: your command work but properly
[09:31] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: no clue about dell and Ubuntu issue
[09:31] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: shouldnt be
[09:31] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: no its a clean install / swap home
[09:31] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: use Unetbootin then with a new usb i guess
[09:31] <ztyuio> look at here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760847/
[09:32] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: thats just my method , i just keep at it until it sticks , if you make sure you got a good Live USB with a good .iso then it should be good.
[09:32] <llutz> ztyuio: man sed (-i  is what you want)
[09:33] <llutz> ztyuio: and again, don't mess with /etc/passwd
[09:33] <ztyuio> perfect working
[09:33] <ztyuio> now if i want to add |whatever-to-be-added instead of whatever-to-be-added what i have to do  ?
[09:34] <Ben64> ztyuio: why are you messing with the passwd file anyway? you're probably going to break your system
[09:34] <ballock> Is there an option to apt-get so it explains why it wants to install those packages?
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> ztyuio  what do you want to achieve, what's the end goal, maybe there's a better solution?
[09:34] <ztyuio> sorry
[09:35] <pilsa> k1l_, i just did "sudo apt-get update" (without upgrade). everything back to normal. thanks.
[09:35] <ztyuio> now if i want to add /whatever-to-be-added instead of whatever-to-be-added what i have to do  ?
[09:35] <ChRisHansen> dfghjk76567: if you have one of those "made for windows" computers then maybe that is the problem , I am not sure but if my pc said made for windows on it I might not try to run Ubuntu.
[09:35] <dfghjk76567> ChRisHansen: no
[09:35] <ChRisHansen> dfischer: lol then your good
[09:36] <Ben64> ChRisHansen: uh, just about every computer has a windows sticker on it. they run linux just fine
[09:36] <ChRisHansen> Ben64: oh lord, I never stop learning. thank you .
[09:36] <llutz> ztyuio: change the part you want to add, you might need to escape the / using \/
[09:36] <ztyuio> i m just trying to understand
[09:37] <Ben64> ztyuio: understand what? and why won't you answer why you want to mess with /etc/passwd ?
[09:37] <ztyuio> for can you post the command  ? llutz
[09:37] <ztyuio> don't worry i m not working on it
[09:37] <k1l_> ztyuio: man sed, and ##bash would be more appropraite
[09:38] <Ben64> ztyuio: every one of your examples has been on it
[09:38] <ztyuio> i take /etc/passwd as contains lots of information simply
[09:38] <llutz> ztyuio: stupid thing, never mess with system-files
[09:38] <ChRisHansen> ztyuio: trying to get the helpful Ubuntu nerds to help you hack passwords lol?
[09:39] <Eren|Phone> what are floodbots?
[09:39] <Ben64> Eren|Phone: bots that control floods
[09:39] <Eren|Phone> yeah but what do they do actually
[09:39] <param_> Hi, I downloaded evolution from this link , now how to compile the code http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/download.shtml
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> Eren|Phone  they tell you not to flood the channel
[09:40] <k1l_> param_: no need to compile.
[09:40] <DJones> Eren|Phone: They stop people from copy/pasting large amounts of text into the channel
[09:40] <param_> than ? how to installl
[09:40] <Eren|Phone> ah ok
[09:40] <k1l_> param_: ubuntu already ships a package for it in the software repos
[09:40] <Eren|Phone> when was the last ubuntu update?
[09:40] <k1l_> param_: "sudo apt-get install evolution"
[09:40] <param_> yeah but i get error from software centre
[09:40] <ChRisHansen> Every April and October
[09:41] <k1l_> param_: which error?
[09:41] <param_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:41] <AnilBafila> hello
[09:41] <param_> when i run this command - i got an error
[09:41] <Eren|Phone> hm so my wlan stick is probably working now? didn't get it to work some years ago
[09:41] <k1l_> param_: did you read what it says?
[09:41] <param_> yes
[09:41] <param_> i always get this error
[09:41] <k1l_> param_: and? is there another program opened that uses the software repos?
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> param_  try deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[09:42] <ballock> Hey, MonkeyDust or ChRisHansen, any ideas for apt-get installing the cruft when told to remove it?
[09:42] <k1l_> like software center, updateservice etc?
[09:42] <dhs227> How to setup static IP in 13.04 vmware box? I paste /etc/network/interfaces at here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760869/
[09:42] <AnilBafila> i am having a problem in flash setting  Flash player settings dialog is unclickable using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:42] <param_> are you sure, MonkeyDust i deleted once and whole my ubuntu got screwed
[09:43] <ztyuio> ok on the same file
[09:43] <param_> i am using 12.04
[09:43] <param_> no i dont think so any other prog is using this software repos
[09:43] <ballock> ok, found the thing:
[09:44] <ballock> apt-get remove sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre does the right job
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[09:44] <k1l_> param_: close all programs, and make sure no "updates are available" is opened. then try again with the terminal command i gave you
[09:44] <ztyuio> if there is some annotation how to skip that annotation and how to count the first line without annotation ?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> ballock: how old is your install?
[09:44] <ztyuio> to do modification
[09:44] <Guest18024> How to change the mount point's name? My ntfs partition is mounted as /123 I want it to mount as /maindata
[09:44] <ballock> so it seems removing sun-java6-bin fails the sun-java6-jre package
[09:45] <k1l_> ztyuio: man sed, and ##bash would be more appropraite
[09:45] <ballock> and this package depends on either sun-java6-bin or ia32-sun-java6
[09:45] <ChRisHansen> ballock: so it seems
[09:45] <ballock> and apt-get tries to install ia-32-sun-java
[09:45] <ballock> it seems it's too simple dependency resolution on apt-get's part
[09:46] <param_> my all programs are closed :(
[09:46] <ztyuio> this is the file
[09:46] <ztyuio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760876/
[09:46] <AnilBafila> you can see  Flash player settings dialog unclickable by going to youtube.com and right click on running video and click setting you will stuck thre after
[09:46] <ChRisHansen> ballock: `interesting
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ballock: do you want oracle java?
[09:47] <Sling> I want to increase /sys/module/xt_recent/parameters/ip_pkt_list_tot (iptables module parameter), so I put "options xt_recent ip_pkt_list_tot=500" in /etc/modprobe.d/options, but this breaks the module altogether
[09:47] <ballock> I have that in parallel as oracle-java7-{bin,jre,plugin}
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> ballock: ahh from the webupd8 ppa?
[09:47] <ballock> but I wanted to clean up the old one and that seemed bizarre
[09:47] <ballock> actually it's from rraptorr's github
[09:47] <ztyuio> and if i do sed  '1 s/$/whatever-to-be-added/' file   it add "whatever-to-be-added" at the end of the file
[09:47] <AnilBafila> can anyonne help me controling flash
[09:47] <ztyuio> and if i do sed  '1 s/$/whatever-to-be-added/' file   it add "whatever-to-be-added" at the end of the first line
[09:48] <ztyuio> i would like to add it on the first line excepting annotation how to do ?
[09:49] <AnilBafila> you can see  Flash player settings dialog unclickable by going to youtube.com and right click on running video and click setting you will stuck thre after
[09:49] <AnilBafila> you can see  Flash player settings dialog unclickable by going to youtube.com and right click on running video and click setting you will stuck thre after in ubuntu 12.04
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> AnilBafila: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    please?
[09:50] <ztyuio> that's my issue ?
[09:50] <AnilBafila> 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> AnilBafila: ok and what browsr are you using?
[09:51] <AnilBafila> mozilla
[09:51] <MonkeyDust> AnilBafila  you mean firefox, mozilla is a company
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> AnilBafila: firefox you mean? mozilla is the developer
[09:51] <AnilBafila> i want to control my audio and video device yes
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> AnilBafila: mozilla make a number of products
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> AnilBafila: do you open .doc file in Windows with a program called 'Microsoft'?
[09:53] <AnilBafila> you can change settings by using this site http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> AnilBafila: tried the Unity 2D session
[09:53] <AnilBafila> not yet
[09:54] <AnilBafila> how to try 2d session
[09:55] <ChRisHansen> i thin ki broke the CLassBot in Ubuntu-classromm channel.?
[09:56] <AnilBafila> i have checked many desktops have this problem
[09:56] <AnilBafila> i have checked many desktops have this problem +laptos version of ubuntu 12.04
[09:57] <AnilBafila> i had searched web but unable to  get my answer
[09:58] <Takumo> Question all, I keep getting GTK Warnings that it can't find the "pixmap" theme engine, is there a package to install?
[09:59] <ChRisHansen> I am having diplomacy issues with the classBot in Ubuntu-classroom. bbl thanks again.
[10:01] <AnilBafila> no on e is able to solve the problem of flash control system
[10:01] <AnilBafila> no one is able to solve the problem of flash control system
[10:03] <streulma> hello, how can I do an fsck on a corrupt disk ?
[10:03] <streulma> the system gives error grub
[10:03] <streulma> can't mount filesystem from installer
[10:06] <StarOnD> hello everyone, I am using raring ringtail, and my skype is working fine. But it does not allow me to turn on video. I can;t click on the button. can someone help me ?
[10:08] <nate_river> do synaptic package manager in ubuntu 12
[10:08] <nate_river> do not support
[10:09] <DJones> nate_river: You have the choice of Synaptic Package Manager or Software Centre, from memory, Synaptic isn't installed by default so you would need to install it yourself
[10:10] <ezra-s> nate_river, you can use synaptic no problem
[10:10] <loganlee> !ubuntu
[10:11] <DJones> nate_river: If you need to install it, this page will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/131979/how-to-install-synaptic-package-manager
[10:11] <loganlee> !gnome
[10:11] <nate_river> first open show  "You will not be able to apply any changes. But you can still export the marked changes or create a download script for them."
[10:11] <nate_river> what is that
[10:12] <loganlee> 23*23=?
[10:12] <Ben64> nate_river: you need to use gksudo to open synaptic to get the correct permissions
[10:13] <loganlee> 23*23=?
[10:13] <auronandace> that !gnome factoid ought to be removed, none of the ubuntu versions that shipped with gnome2 are supported anymore
[10:13] <DJones> loganlee: The bot doesn't do things like
[10:13] <Ben64> loganlee: this is not a math channel, use a calculator
[10:15] <nate_river> thanks for information
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: its gnome3, so still 'gnome'
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: the !gnome factoid doesn't meantion gnome2
[10:19] <Ben64> but its not really a gnome de, its unity
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> loganlee: use google for calculations if you want, or run 'bc' in terminal
[10:19] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: the default desktop up to 10.10 was specifically gnome2
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: it is, gnome is still the DE, Unity is a Shell for gnome
[10:19] <Ben64> its just kind of misleading, i think it should be updated
[10:20] <Ben64> especially since there is a gnome-ubuntu now
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: you can suggest factoids for ubottu
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: if you type:  /msg ubottu !factoid is description
[10:20] <Ben64> !lxde | something like this, but for gnome
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: eg:  /msg ubottu !bourbon is Bourbon is an awesome spirit
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: they are reviewed and added / tweaked if required etc
[10:21] <ChRisHansen> i did the lubuntu install yesterday over my 13.04 amd64. clean install and it worked fine . my boot up screen is now BLUE!
[10:22] <basiclas-> hey guys does annyone know of a service whereby I can access a remote GUI install of debian/ubuntu on another machine? In the same vein as free shells. I use free shells but there are some GUI softwares I need to run remotel
[10:22] <basiclas-> y
[10:22] <Ben64> basiclas-: vnc
[10:22] <Ben64> basiclas-: or x-forwarding, but it can be very slow
[10:24] <basiclas-> Ben64: Are there any versions where i dont have to actually set up the PC? like companies selling remote access?
[10:24] <Ben64> basiclas-: i'm sure there are, but thats not really related to ubuntu support
[10:24] <basiclas-> ok thanks
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[10:29] <ChRisHansen> so in theory gedit is a way to edit a file ?
[10:29] <ChRisHansen> why whenever i open gedit i get a blank page then?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ChRisHansen: its a ext editor, like notepad in windows
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> *text editore
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  new = empty
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> basiclas-: what are you wanting to access the remote system to do?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> basiclas-: you could use VNC (through ssh tunnel if it is over WAN)
[10:31] <ChRisHansen> ActionParsnip: i know about text editor i used it on a macOSX editing CSV files by hand until i found about CSV editor application lol.
[10:32] <ChRisHansen> so what file to i need to gedit then to get my Firefox to open links on this irc ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ChRisHansen: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/textmate2-goes-open-source-could-come-to-linux   seen this
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  gedit reads text files, not links, use a browser to open links
[10:34] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: no what i am trying to do is get my clicker to open the link from irc to firefox again like before , now when i click a link here it opens abiword. i need to change that
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  i had a similar issue, go and look in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list      there may be something wring there
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> wrong*
[10:35] <ChRisHansen> ActionParsnip: well good on Allan Odgaard for that .
[10:36] <ChRisHansen> ok let me check that path, should i gedit it or nano it ?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> ChRisHansen: not bad, I prefer vi
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> ChRisHansen: either is fine, nano is just a terminal based editor
[10:37] <peregring-lk> one question, if I want to see files reading/writting by an application
[10:37] <peregring-lk> I can see them by typing lsof, right?
[10:38] <peregring-lk> or lsof -c process-name
[10:38] <peregring-lk> for specific process
[10:38] <peregring-lk> right?
[10:38] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: i got a problem "looking" into anything right now. when i type gedit and then the path , i get a blank page. nothing.
[10:40] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: yeah i type gedit, space and then the path , when i do this gedit opens but its just a cursor and a blank page.
[10:40] <ChRisHansen> what am i doing wrong here ?
[10:41] <auronandace> ChRisHansen: editing anything outside your home directory will very likely require root privileges, use gksudo gedit
[10:42] <ChRisHansen> auronandace: oh lord just as soon as i looked it up in the support and it said the same thing i gotta gksudo it first duh ?
[10:43] <ChRisHansen> auronandace: at least i did my homework and i understand the concept now of sudo su and gksudo
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  try a simpler path to test gedit, still a blank page?
[10:45] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: yeah still blank , my mimeapps.list is blank after gksudo but it opened a untitled document1.?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> odd
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  and with leafpad?
[10:46] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: how to leafpad?
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  install it first, it's the most simple and basic graphical text editor
[10:48] <ChRisHansen> http://pastebin.com/UVqLmA3D what does this mean and how do i auto remobe this ?
[10:48] <ChRisHansen> *remove MonkeyDust
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  ignore that for now, type leafpad path_to_file
[10:49] <CaTeGoRe> ubuntu needs better smartcard support
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> CaTeGoRe  ubuntu aims to constantly improve, you may be right, report it in launchpad, if needed
[10:50] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: ok i typed leafpad followed by "~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" and got blank with cursor
[10:51] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust:  i could always boot from my usb and re install and then run lubuntu clean again why not ?
[10:51] <ChRisHansen> i would lose a few pictures is all
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  just to test: type leafpad ~/.bashrc
[10:51] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: wait one
[10:53] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/w3WcdPmJ result of command
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ChRisHansen  great, so it does work
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> that's something
[10:54] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: yep
[10:54] <ChRisHansen> my mimeapps.list is gone lol
[10:54] <MDgd> Hey gang, quick question
[10:54] <MDgd> I want to limit the degree of access any and all processes have to the system's resources.
[10:54] <MDgd> For instance, there's no reason any process should ever be able to use more than 90% of the CPU
[10:55] <MDgd> How do I achieve this?
[10:55] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: i wanted to try this anyway for kicks . am gonna back up my movies/pics to my exHdd and reinstall and then ummedietely run lubuntu install first . then i will bll ok ?
[10:55] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: from my USB i mean
[10:56] <ChRisHansen> i gonna back up my movies, boot from usb, reinstall clean 13.04 and then run lubuntu install first thing , and then i bbl .
[10:57] <CaTeGoRe> MonkeyDust, sorry just venting.. been tasked to get full disk encryption smartcard system and 2 factor vpn working on 12.04 LTS 64 Alt
[10:57] <ChRisHansen> MonkeyDust: just for fun
[11:11] <Agalloch> Hello, please, is t here any way to have the same functionality of keys ALT+TAB, which also switchs the running game ? I must always quit game
[11:14] <penos> how to use ubuntu?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> penos  start with a live usb stick and try it for some time
[11:18] <penos> how to spell ubuntu?
[11:18] <penos> you boon too
[11:19] <vj9252> ?yes
[11:20] <penos> is ubuntu linux?
[11:21] <vj9252> yes
[11:21] <jose__> hi
[11:21] <penos> oic
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> penos  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsApplicationsEquivalents
[11:21] <pillar> is this a help channel?
[11:22] <k1l_> !details | pillar
[11:25] <penos> is ubuntu difficult to use?
[11:25] <pillar> ubuntu 13 during boot splash turns magenta in upper left corner in small font  "download firmware () no first image under that line 14.621447 saa7164 download firmware () upload failed. (file not found. under that lis is 14.621494 failed to boot firmware no features registered
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> penos  it's easy to use, but there's a learning process, like there was for windows or mac
[11:26] <penos> oic
[11:26] <pillar> what is this type of error
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> pillar  first install of ubuntu? what was on the pc before?
[11:27] <temp_> if i create a persistent live usb disk and i install various sotwares like skype, vlc, etc. and then if i install from that live usb disk will all the softwares be installed on the target system
[11:28] <BananaCo> is there a new realease? im on 13.04 and just run `do-release-upgrade -d` and it updated heaps of packages
[11:28] <k1l_> BananaCo: -d stands for developer
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> BananaCo  13.04 is the latest stable
[11:29] <k1l_> BananaCo: so you updated to the 13.10 which is in development untill october
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> !13.10
[11:29] <BananaCo> oh ok, thanks
[11:29] <BluesKaj> BananaCo, you just upgraded to 13.10 by using the -d option
[11:29] <BananaCo> i hope it all works lol
[11:29] <BluesKaj> works here , BananaCo
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> BananaCo  hope you have backups
[11:30] <BananaCo> yeah i do
[11:30] <k1l_> BananaCo: hope you have backups. development releases will have issues
[11:31] <dhs227> I ran ubuntu in vmbox that have static IP. from the host OS ping the ubuntu is okay with <1ms response, but each HTTP request takes 10 seconds before server actually receive. What is the possible solution for this?
[11:31] <BluesKaj> well , I had more issues with 13.04 , than I've had with 13.10
[11:31] <penos> can i browse web in ubuntu?
[11:31] <iceroot> penos: sure
[11:31] <k1l_> penos: stop that.
[11:32] <temp_> temp_:
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> penos  start with a live usb stick and try it for some time
[11:32] <DJones> penos: Please don't troll, you've been kicked from the channel enough times for trolling to know what the channel quidelines are
[11:32] <temp_> if i create a persistent live usb disk and i install various sotwares like skype, vlc, etc. and then if i install from that live usb disk will all the softwares be installed on the target system
[11:32] <pillar> I have multiboot pc win 7 on a 250gb hdd and all linux on 2tb hdd i partitioned  /dev/sdc1  ext4 Mint, /dev/sdc2 swap, /dev/sdc3 ext4 ubuntu, /dev/sdc4 ext4 Mofo dueing each install each linux distro on it's own partition mounted /. I loaded mint first then ubuntu but mint grub is being used.  to answer your question I zeroed the drive before I started
[11:34] <BluesKaj> pillar, mint grub should still show your ubuntu kernel , run sudo update-grub in mint
[11:34] <temp_> persistence
[11:34] <pillar> I did that
[11:35] <temp_> how?
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | temp_
[11:36] <shoaib> hi guys i want to ask how to remove applications in ubuntu 12.04
[11:36] <pillar>  confused because grub2 sees different kernals of ubuntu on the list is grub seeing mint as ubuntu/
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> shoaib  sudo apt-get purge [app name] or use synaptic or the software center
[11:37] <shoaib> synaptic how can i do with synaptic i did not understand
[11:37] <shoaib> how to use
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> shoaib  open synaptic and look for the app you want to remove
[11:38] <pillar> I don't get this error booting mint
[11:39] <DoctorWedgeworth> is there any way to have a local version of /etc/hosts for user-specific changes?
[11:39] <nudtrobert> ubuntukylin-devel
[11:39] <pillar> can you please explain the error to me
[11:40] <shoaib> in synaptic i get many thing how to see what is installed apps
[11:42] <BluesKaj> pillar ,  run , sudo grub-install /dev/sdc from your mint OS
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> shoaib  use the software center, it's more user friendly
[11:42] <penos> use synaptic
[11:42] <temp_> MonkeyDust: suppose i install any software on my persistent usb drive like i install openshot. Then i install from the usbdrive to a target desktop so will openshot also be installed by default?
[11:43] <shoaib> in software center how can i see what is installed
[11:44] <pillar> will do one other problem Mofo is a special portable porteus distro  how do I get grub to see it
[11:44] <Kruppt> shoaib:there is a search function use it...or browse installed packages, right click on the package you want to remove a choose appropriate selection in menu
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> temp_  i havent tried such persistent install myself, i'm no great help
[11:45] <pillar> be back need to reboot
[11:45] <pillar> thank you
[11:46] <Eagleman7> How can i do the following in a bash script? export PASSPHRASE="=H:k<a'TTj$S$\;"  ?
[11:47] <DJones> Eagleman7: Probably a question for #bash (or is ##bash)
[11:47] <BluesKaj> pillar, run sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[11:48] <Takumo> HEy all, I've got a problem with apt , GPG Error NO_PUBKEY for http://extras.ubuntu.com/
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> !gpg | Takumo
[11:49] <Takumo> I know what GPG is, I just want to know why suddenly its failing for the extras repo.
[11:49] <Takumo> did the keys change between 12.10 and 13.04?
[11:50] <pillar> do I still run sudo grub-install /dev/sdc ?
[11:50] <DoctorWedgeworth> is there any way to have a local version of /etc/hosts for user-specific changes?
[11:56] <airtonix> how come the raring version of wpasupplicant isn't compiled with CONFIG_AP=y ?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> DoctorWedgeworth, it is local  afaik
[11:56] <airtonix> DoctorWedgeworth: no, BluesKaj, obviously is meant "can /etc/hosts have a user override file"
[11:56] <DoctorWedgeworth> BluesKaj, it's /etc/hosts so would effect everyone
[11:57] <DoctorWedgeworth> effect? affect?
[11:57] <DoctorWedgeworth> affect
[11:57] <BluesKaj> DoctorWedgeworth, matbe /etc/hosts.allow
[11:58] <BluesKaj> maybe
[11:58] <BluesKaj> DoctorWedgeworth, effect is the noun , affect is the verb
[12:00] <BluesKaj> but of course grammar isn't taught much in schools anymore
[12:01] <DoctorWedgeworth> stupid language :-/
[12:01] <DoctorWedgeworth> it's like certain pitfalls were put in place deliberately to trip people up
[12:01] <DoctorWedgeworth> hosts.allow is a whitelist of IPs allowed to connect to the server (I think), not the same functionality
[12:03] <BluesKaj> DoctorWedgeworth, then I don't know what "functionality" you want
[12:05] <DoctorWedgeworth> BluesKaj, the local DNS overriding functionality provided by /etc/hosts, but on a per-user basis instead of in /etc. It's okay to say you don't know, you don't have to try to be condescending.
[12:05] <airtonix> BluesKaj: isn't it obvious? he/she wants ~/.hosts to override entries in /etc/hosts
[12:06] <airtonix> DoctorWedgeworth: perhaps you haven't exhausted this yet: google.com.au/search?q=per+user+%2Fetc%2Fhosts
[12:06] <dhs227> How to list DNS server currently using? The box is DHCP IP configure. I tried ifconfig -a but it does not show DNS
[12:06] <BluesKaj> DoctorWedgeworth, don't misread my attitude ..functionality is a misused word all too often
[12:07] <Pumpkin-> dhs227: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> dhs227  try dig
[12:07] <alan__> my first logging in ...
[12:07] <dhs227> Pumpkin- no such file /etc/resolv.conf in 13.04
[12:07] <Pumpkin-> oh wow
[12:07] <airtonix> DoctorWedgeworth: tl;dr > yes but it's not easy and it won't work with all programs.
[12:08] <DoctorWedgeworth> thanks airtonix. Oh well, I'm sure there's a good security reason for it not existing :)
[12:08] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:08] <alan__> so,here are some foreign people.
[12:08] <Laurenceb> i have a problem with gedit
[12:08] <airtonix> DoctorWedgeworth: can I ask what is your use case? or is it rather broad/wide ?
[12:08] <Laurenceb> the latex plugin option is greyed out
[12:09] <DoctorWedgeworth> airtonix, testing DNS migrations and blocking some sites I procrastinate with, on a thin client
[12:09] <dhs227> Pumpkin-: my problem is, when using DHCP everything fine, when specify static IP, the web request become very slow like 10 seconds lag.
[12:10] <dhs227> I just wonder maybe DHCP gives some nice DNS setting, while I need to manually specify in static IP
[12:10] <airtonix> DoctorWedgeworth: ok so pretty broad. if you really want to d this then : http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/57598
[12:10] <Litepool> trying to do "apt-get install  libboost1.48-all-dev" but i get "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.48-all-dev'
[12:10] <Litepool> "
[12:10] <Litepool> E: Unable to locate package libboost1.48-all-dev
[12:11] <alan__> well ,good-bye you gays
[12:11] <DJones> !find libboost
[12:11] <DoctorWedgeworth> eek. Thanks airtonix. I'll bookmark it for a braver day :)
[12:11] <Pumpkin-> dhs227: yeah, I'd be looking at what DNS differences you had as the first port of call, but if 13.04 has removed resolv.conf, I've no idea what it is doing to do DNS resolution (and I've got no 13.04 boxes at the moment to poke around on).
[12:12] <DJones> Litepool: Looks like its 1.49-dev rather than 1.48-dev in the repo's (I'm assuming that is for 13.04 though)
[12:12] <nevyn> I'm having some problems with the startup disk creator. the erase and make boot disk functions both fail in different ways (13.04)
[12:12] <brave> okay
[12:12] <nevyn> when I click create startup disk I get a "invalid version GNU/Linux" after a bit.
[12:13] <Litepool> still couldn't find DJones
[12:13] <nevyn> when I click erase I get a dbus error.
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> nevyn  what's the ouptut of        cat /etc/issue ?
[12:13] <airtonix> DoctorWedgeworth: the proper way to do this if you are the systems deployer would be to create a module for nsswitch
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> output*
[12:14] <DJones> Litepool: Try just using sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:14] <Litepool> sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[12:14] <Litepool> libboost-all-dev is already the newest version.
[12:14] <Litepool> wiered
[12:14] <DJones> Litepool: That would suggest you've got it installed
[12:15] <Laurenceb> the latex plugin option is greyed out in gedit
[12:15] <Laurenceb> any ideas why?
[12:15] <Litepool> Thanks DJones
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Laurenceb  maybe you have to install the plugin, first
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: did you manually insall the plugin?
[12:15] <Laurenceb> no, i ued the repo
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: what package did you install?
[12:15] <Laurenceb> gedit-latex-plugin
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> !info gedit-latex-plugin
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> hmm, sec
[12:16] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: yep
[12:16] <nevyn> Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid \n \l
[12:16] <nevyn> sigh.
[12:16] <nevyn> wrong box. ;P
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> nevyn  that happens :)
[12:16] <nevyn> MonkeyDust: nevyn@dromedary:~$ cat /etc/issue
[12:16] <nevyn> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: debian isnt supported here
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140574
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  s/he mistyped
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-latex-plugin/+bug/402094
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: http://linux.windows8az.com/1140574-ubuntu-cannot-enable-gedits-latex-plugin
[12:18] <Laurenceb> if i start from terminal, the terminal returns
[12:18] <Laurenceb> seems it forks gedit or soemthing
[12:19] <Laurenceb> ill check my folders
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:20] <airtonix> how come the raring version of wpasupplicant isn't compiled with CONFIG_AP=y ?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> DoctorWedgeworth, braver indeed , that tutorial look duanting :)
[12:21] <BluesKaj> looks
[12:22] <Eagleman7> Why is duplicity asking for a signing key when I already exported it in the same script?
[12:25] <DJones> airtonix: Thats a pretty specific question, you may need to email the developer/maintainer to get an answer, http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/wpasupplicant shows ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com as the mailing list
[12:27] <DJones> airtonix: Or maybe ask the question on via the answers.launchpad link on the page
[12:27] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: yep.
[12:29] <Eagleman7> Why is duplicity asking for a signing key when I already exported it in the same script?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: too you a while....
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: did you simply point unetbootin at the ISO or did you do something else?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: have you tried the usb-creator app?
[12:32] <ThisIsMrBig> hi
[12:33] <kurtwp_> trying to connect to Win server2008 using ubuntu remote desk top and it won't - however when using win7 pc I can connect - any suggestion
[12:34] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: that's what I'm trying
[12:34] <nevyn> usb-creator
[12:34] <ThisIsMrBig> nevyn what's up?
[12:34] <dhs227> How to add 'search localdomain' in /etc/resolv.conf permanently? This file seems overwrite each reboot...
[12:34] <Litepool> Unpacking libboost-all-dev (from .../libboost-all-dev_1.42.0.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb)
[12:34] <nevyn> it seems to be fullofail in tht it looks pretty but it fails to create a bootable usbe "Invalid version string GNU/Linux"
[12:35] <Litepool> i want to install version 1.47
[12:35] <Litepool> anyone know of a way?
[12:35] <nevyn> or wipe a usb key "dbus error)
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: tried unetbootin?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Litepool: is it in the wine ppa?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> dhs227, put your settings in  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: sounds like a bad usb devcie
[12:35] <Litepool> ActionParsnip, just trying to install libboost-all-dev boost 1.47 to be exact
[12:36] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: installing it now
[12:37] <tuxtoti> are there any software packages which allow running remote commands on multiple hosts using SSH...preferably with a GUI?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Litepool: if you can find a PPA for it, or a deb, you can install it
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: cssh
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: cssh server1 server2 server3 server4
[12:37] <BluesKaj> dhs227, it writes the /etc/resolv.conf file , but if you use networkmanager then it's settings overwrite both
[12:37] <Litepool> action http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/libboost-all-dev/download i think i found it
[12:37] <Litepool> how will i go forward?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: you get a little text entry box and the text goes to all the servers you stated
[12:38] <Eagleman7> Why is duplicity asking for a signing key when I already exported it in the same script?
[12:38] <Litepool> nvm
[12:38]  * Litepool facepalms
[12:38] <tuxtoti> ActionParsnip: ..hmm I see.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Litepool: those are 1.48
[12:38] <nevyn> ActionParsnip: hrm that's working.
[12:38] <dhs227> BluesKaj: I use default 13.04 installation, not sure if networkmanager is using or not... Maybe not?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: great application, specialy for clusters, hence the name
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: I use it every day for work, makes editting 10 boxes in a cluster a lot easier as the files are identical :)
[12:40] <Litepool> ActionParsnip, sorry man, i still don't get it
[12:40] <tuxtoti> tuxtoti: i guess it'll fit our needs. Basically we have a set of machines on a VPC in AWS. Will have to run commands like changing passwords regularly..etc.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> yes networkmanager is default , dhs227 ...check network manager for the option to 'search local domain'
[12:41] <tuxtoti> ActionParsnip:
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[12:43] <DJones> spatialul: No spam thank yyou
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: or easy if you have:  hosts="server1 server2 server3"; for i in $hosts do ssh $i "commands here"; done     etc
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: the syntax may be whack but you get the idea, if you make scripts like that it makes your life easier
[12:44] <dhs227> BluesKaj: my actual problem is, when use DHCP, web access is very instant but when specify static IP, it's very slow. I am just visit from host OS to vmware.
[12:44] <dhs227> BluesKaj: I wonder if this is DNS relatedfurther looked into /etc/resolv.conf and notice the only difference
[12:45] <Guest62656> I changed the name of mount point in /etc/fstab and after reboot the old name is in root dir. how to rtemove old mount name?
[12:45] <tuxtoti> ActionParsnip: Yeah..thats how i'm doing it now :). But was wondering if there was a better tool which'll also keep track of the stderr/stdout etc.. ClusterSSH looks good.
[12:45] <dhs227> BluesKaj: I wonder if this is DNS related problem. I further looked into /etc/resolv.conf and notice the only difference is "search localdomain"
[12:45] <gordonjcp> dhs227: sounds like slow dns resolution
[12:45] <dhs227> BluesKaj: But now I use static IP and add this line, it still slow...
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: I'd go with the scripts, you can then make scripts to run those scripts for even more simplicity :)
[12:46] <dhs227> gordonjcp: maybe because the dns, but how to solve that? It is suppose to be fast on same machine..
[12:46] <tuxtoti> ActionParsnip: ..hmm. anyway quick question clusterssh supports file transfer too?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> dhs227, i run without the networkmanager and set the dns nameservers and static ip in the /etc/network/interfaces file and my connectioons are fast as possible
[12:48] <dhs227> BluesKaj: where to disable such networkmanager and can you share your interfaces file?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> dhs227, then you don't have networkmanager overwriting your settings
[12:49] <dhs227> BluesKaj: It appears so.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> dhs227, just remove network manager ..here's my /etc/network/interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761355/
[12:52] <BluesKaj> dhs227,  better still ,check this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[12:55] <streulma> hello, can someone help me with openvpn?
[12:55] <streulma> I can't ping the gateway
[12:57] <BluesKaj> streulma, ask in #openvpn
[12:59] <mprat> Where are the values of environment variables stored? My PATH variable was changed but I want to change it back.
[13:04] <dhs227> BluesKaj, I followed the article but lag problem standstill..
[13:05] <dhs227> what is tools to trace that?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> dhs227, did you remove network manager ?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> dhs227, check the software center
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: you'd have to check the man page
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> tuxtoti: you could always use a for look and use scp, again another script to make life simple
[13:11] <tuxtoti> ActionParsnip: ..well its easy to create one..but to maintain them ..its a pain.
[13:12] <GOR> Hi i need program for delite dublicates
[13:13] <GOR> hey?
[13:13] <GOR> any here?
[13:14] <dhs227> BluesKaj, i removed the pack and reboot but still very slow...
[13:14] <marianne> GOR: be patient, they will answer you... do you mean delete duplicates?
[13:14] <dhs227> can you show me /etc/resolv.conf
[13:14] <fellipe> hi! I am running ubuntu 13.04 64bits. I've downloaded DBDesigner 4 (wich is for 43bits) and I've installed ia32-libs. When I try to run it I get an error wich says: "libjpeg.so.62 file not found". I already installed many libjpeg62, dev, dbg... what else should I do?
[13:14] <GOR> mar yes
[13:14] <BluesKaj> dhs227, how do you mean s"low"
[13:14] <fellipe> ops 32 bits
[13:14] <BluesKaj> err slow
[13:15] <GOR> I need program for search and delite dublicates
[13:15] <GOR> or script
[13:16] <GOR> dublicates of different files
[13:16] <GOR> pictures docs and other
[13:16] <dhs227> BluesKaj it takes around 10 seconds to response to every http client request. I trace the server log that server actually receive the request around 9+ seconds and revert in ms... so this must be something wrong in dns.
[13:16] <GOR> md sum maybe use
[13:16] <GOR> Any can help plz?
[13:17] <dhs227> BluesKaj I mean server receive the request after 9+ seconds...
[13:18] <aqil> GOR,    fdupes
[13:19] <GOR> have gui?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> dhs227, you have to set your dns nameserver settings in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  ...like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761424/
[13:19] <aqil> GOR,no
[13:20] <GOR> Give full command please
[13:20] <GOR> i have folders 6 on partitions
[13:20] <th0r> Gor: man fdupes
[13:20] <GOR> ewerywhere need search
[13:20] <dhs227> BluesKaj, gateway.2wire.net is the host name?
[13:20] <GOR> its harde
[13:21] <GOR> fdupes only search and even cant delite?
[13:21] <dhs227> BluesKaj, 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.222.220 are internet DNS?
[13:21] <neo2> Hi.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> dhs227, don't take my settings literally , it's only meant as an example , 2wire is my router
[13:21] <krypto> on my ubuntu 12.04.2 its using deadline scheduler but in 12.04.1 its cfq any idea why its so
[13:22] <GOR> I have ~56600 dubles there are
[13:22] <GOR> i need all automatical
[13:22] <neo2> Is it possible to boot my Ubuntu  on the HD from a boot CD ?
[13:22] <neo2> How can it be accomplished?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> yes dhs227 my settings from opendns , use your own dns entries
[13:24] <GOR> waaaa http://www.pixelbeat.org/fslint/ any know it?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> neo2: you can chroot to the installed OS and run commands
[13:26] <neo2> ActionParsnip, how exactly do I boot the OS on the HD from the boot CD? What do I have to change in the boot files?
[13:26] <GOR> ok thx bb to all
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> neo2: omgubuntu has a guide called: sticking it to grub
[13:28] <neo2> ActionParsnip, thanks
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> neo2: you can boot to the liveCD and chroot to the installed OS. The commands you run will then affect the installed OS, not the live CD OS
[13:29] <neo2> ActionParsnip, that's exactly the info I needed
[13:37] <khyra> what is the command to check if my firewall is running?
[13:37] <cheshair> hi! I want to install ubuntu 13.04 on an asus x54h that comes with a default windows 7 (core i3). Should I go for 32 or 64 bit?
[13:38] <acerimmer> cheshair, depends on if your machine is 64 bit capable.  look it up
[13:39] <acerimmer> khyra, sudo ufw status
[13:39] <contrapunctus> khyra - sudo ufw status
[13:39] <contrapunctus> lol
[13:39] <acerimmer> contrapunctus, little slow there, son ...
[13:39] <contrapunctus> haha
[13:41] <khyra> thanksX2 :)
[13:42] <cheshair> acerimmer: hi! thanks! well, i guess the machine itself is capable... it's fairly recent
[13:42] <acerimmer> cheshair, check your windows info to be sure .. should specify windows 7 64.  if so, go for it.
[13:43] <CoilDomain> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/release/ the documentation located in the images says there should be a disk1 file, but after uncompressing it i only see the ec2 images
[13:43] <cheshair> acerimmer: very helpful, thank you very much!
[13:43] <CoilDomain> anyone know where i can get the image for use in openstack?
[13:43] <acerimmer> #openstack
[13:44] <CoilDomain> ubuntus own documentation says they provide it….
[13:46] <kingugo> good day
[13:46] <CoilDomain> man, sometimes i hate those pages
[13:46]  * CoilDomain walks off in shame
[13:46] <acerimmer> CoilDomain, devstack.org
[13:46] <kingugo> i have a problem with bruteforcing a rar file on bt5r3
[13:46] <CoilDomain> not even that
[13:47] <acerimmer> !backtrack|kingugo, BT is not supported here.  sorry.
[13:47] <kingugo> pls who can help
[13:47] <CoilDomain> the page was loaded with launch options for ec2 that i forgot these pages usually have file listings
[13:47] <kingugo> thanks ubottu
[13:48] <kingugo> but i think bt is a derivative of ubuntu
[13:48] <kingugo> who knows bt irc channel and how i can join?
[13:49] <acerimmer> kingugo, as stated in the factoid ... #backtrack-linux
[13:49] <SonikkuAmerica> kingugo: use >>> /join #backtrack-linux
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> isn't it kali now?
[13:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: I think Offensive Security is doing both versions
[13:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Well they did until their first release of Kali
[13:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !kali
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> SonikkuAmerica: no idea, it doesn't interest me
[13:52] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[13:52] <Litepool> Can someone please help me with the command to install libboost1.47 and over version through apt-get or anything, i did "sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[13:52] <Litepool> " and it installed 1.42 please helpppppppppppppppp
[13:53] <jacekmigacz> Litepool: http://askubuntu.com/questions/87306/how-to-install-libboost-1-48
[13:56] <SonikkuAmerica> !pm | kingugo
[13:56] <Litepool> thanks jacekmigacz goign to see how i goes
[13:57] <kingugo> oh, am so sorry. am new to irc
[13:58] <kingugo> i needed help on bt and i couldnt get to d channel. i installed xchat and i tot "oh bt is a derivative of ubuntu" so i decided to ask here.
[13:59] <DJones> !backtrack | kingugo If you can't join the backtrack channel, you should join #freenode and the people there will be able to help you connect to the right channel,
[14:00] <SonikkuAmerica> kingugo: (a) The /join command works; (b) Backtrack isn't supported here; (c) Backtrack isn't supported at all anymore anyway, you should use Kali.
[14:01] <kingugo> ok
[14:01] <kingugo> thanks sonikkuamerica
[14:03] <calimero_82> hello
[14:03] <ubukou> hey there folks. does anyone have any idea where i can find sony vaio recovery disks? i ve formated it to linux and now sony wants me to buy them in order to repair it.
[14:03] <ubukou> thanks
[14:04] <calimero_82> i'm downloading lubu-12.10,how do I know if it is ok for my pc?
[14:06] <th0r> ubukou: I would think the only place to get them is from Sony
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> calimero_82: its one of the lightest buntu's around, wil be fine
[14:06] <ubukou> th0r, so do i, but 70 euros is a bit harsh
[14:07] <th0r> ubukou: well, that is a windows install set, so I doubt you will find any support on a linux forum
[14:11] <LeonIsNew> hey i have a question about ubuntu
[14:11] <LeeCo> ?
[14:11] <LeonIsNew> is it possible to run a few windows apps on it? mainly resident evil 4 and resident evil 5
[14:11] <DJones> !wine | LeonIsNew
[14:12] <LeeCo> yes wine
[14:12] <LeonIsNew> alright, and wine is free, right?
[14:12] <DJones> LeonIsNew: I'd say look at the wine database to see whether the apps will run, some things do, some don't
[14:12] <LeeCo> yes
[14:12] <DJones> Yes its free
[14:12] <SonikkuAmerica> LeonIsNew: Yep; so is the PlayOnLinux frontend
[14:12] <LeonIsNew> okay, i actually didnt know wine was on linux
[14:13] <LeonIsNew> i used it on my macbook to play resident evil 4 so i know it works for that
[14:13] <DJones> LeonIsNew: Wine also has its own irc channel for support ##winehq, the people there should be able to give you more detailed help if you need it
[14:13] <LeeCo> But it's not very stable
[14:14] <Pegaso_R> hi there :-)  Can somebody help me with a usb3 problem in 13.04?
[14:16] <th0r> Pegaso_R: that depends on the question, doesn't it?
[14:16] <Pegaso_R> my sharkoon base for 4 hard disks is not waorking in 13.04 if I use a usb3 cable... was working in 12.10, but now it doesnt
[14:17] <Pegaso_R> if I boot the computer with it connected it works, but if I unplug and hotplug again, it doesnt
[14:17] <e-cuellar> #dev
[14:17] <Pegaso_R> it works perfectly if I use a usb2 cable
[14:17] <Janhouse> Cool, my console network speedtest project on github needs only 2 stars to reach 100. Maybe it could come in handy for someone here? https://github.com/Janhouse/tespeed
[14:18] <e-cuellar> join #dev
[14:18] <Pegaso_R> ok, thx :-)
[14:19] <neo2> How can I update my live Ubuntu in 2GB pen drive? I try first thing to update it but it runs out of space.
[14:20] <Pegaso_R> only one person in #dev.. and inactive for 114hours :-/
[14:21] <Guest46026> good morning
[14:21] <rgargente> hi all
[14:21] <rgargente> i have a problem associating a program to a file type, i have tried many solutions without success
[14:22] <rgargente> anyone can help, please?
[14:22] <Guest41706> it won't let me change my nick?
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest41706: It means that nick is registered with NickServ and you can't use it.
[14:23] <Guest41706> what is the chat for bonhi Linux?
[14:23] <Pegaso_R> guest, you are usung registered nickes, try something "not so common" ;-)
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !bodh
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> !bodhi
[14:23] <DJones> !alis | Guest41706
[14:30] <Pegaso_R> does anybody know if there is some activity in #dev at some special time of the day?
[14:34] <joooo> #anonymous
[14:35] <neo2> How can I update my live Ubuntu in 2GB pen drive? I try first thing to update it but it runs out of space.
[14:36] <SonikkuAmerica> neo2: You can't update a Live image like that.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> neo2  why update something temporary? when you switch off the pc, it's gone
[14:37] <neo2> SonikkuAmerica, so how can I?
[14:37] <neo2> MonkeyDust, err, sorry it's not a live CD, it's a bootable usb drive
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> neo2: uninstall unused apps tp free space, libreoffice is a good one to pull off
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> neo2  after the upgrade, you'll have to reboot for the kernel upgrade and all will be lost, so what's the use?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> ok
[14:38] <neo2> ActionParsnip, lol it's so simple..
[14:38] <Pici> Pegaso_R: We don't know things about arbitrary channels, especially ones that have nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[14:38] <SonikkuAmerica> neo2: In addition to what ActionParsnip said, if you need a word processor or something, put GNOME Office (AbiWord and Gnumeric) on.
[14:39] <Pegaso_R> pici, somebody from here sent me to that channel when I assked a question here....
[14:39] <Pegaso_R> i thought it was related somehow...
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Pegaso_R: They probably meant #ubuntu-dev
[14:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Or maybe not
[14:39] <Pici> Pegaso_R: They weren't answering you.
[14:39] <Pegaso_R> oops, heheh, sorry then
[14:40] <Pegaso_R> it was a question about a usb3 device that is not working in 13.04 (but was working in 12.10)... could it be they were sending me to #ubuntu-dev?
[14:41] <Benihana68> y heeeeeere?
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Pegaso_R: Not sure... but #ubuntu-dev only has one person in it...
[14:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Benihana68
[14:42] <Pegaso_R> ok, then I'll try my question later to see if there's any luck :-)
[14:42] <Pici> Pegaso_R: Probably not, our devel channels are really for support.
[14:42] <SuperLag> If I want to type n ""n" with a ~ over it... rather than opening the character map, searching for the one I want, and doing a copy/paste... is there a simple keystroke I can use?
[14:43] <SuperLag> an "n" with a ~ over it, that is
[14:43] <Pegaso_R> ñ
[14:43] <th0r> SuperLag: you can redefine a key on the keyboard...research xmodmap
[14:43] <SonikkuAmerica> SuperLag: You might also try the Alt Gr keyboard layout.
[14:45] <SuperLag> th0r: heh, I use a similar remap to eliminate the Caps Lock, and make it Ctrl
[14:45] <th0r> SuperLag:
[14:45] <th0r> SuperLag: yeah...capslock is why I first learned about it
[14:46] <SuperLag> setxkbmap -option "ctrl:nocaps"
[14:46] <SuperLag> I have that autostart, when I set up my external displays
[14:47] <Pumpkin-> you might find http://spanish.about.com/od/writtenspanish/a/dia_ubuntu.htm interesting
[14:47] <SuperLag> I haven't figured out how to get the system to automatically enable my external displays, when I get to work and dock my ThinkPad
[14:47] <jeremiah_> Is it possible to move the /home folder with everything in it to another partition?
[14:47] <SonikkuAmerica> jeremiah_: Yes
[14:47] <th0r> jeremiah_: copy it to the new partition, change fstab, and once you are satisfied it is all working fine....delete the old /home
[14:48] <jeremiah_> What i want to do, is to duel boot, and i want to have Ubuntu on one partition, Windows on another, and all my data on a third partition. I want to beable to see all my info from bothe oses
[14:48] <SuperLag> Pumpkin-: good stuff. Thank you.
[14:48] <th0r> jeremiah_: nope....windows can't read a linux format partition, and /home has to be a linux partition I believe
[14:49] <Pegaso_R> jeremiah... windows cant see linux partitions...
[14:49] <jeremiah_> th0r, What is fstab??? I have been hearing a lot about it lately, yet still don't know
[14:49] <jeremiah_> th0r, Isn't there a partition both can read?
[14:49] <th0r> jeremiah_: /etc/fstab, where the initial mount points are defined
[14:49] <jeremiah_> th0r,  Ah
[14:49] <th0r> jeremiah_: both can read vfat and ntfs, but /home can't be in those formats
[14:49] <evanvarvell> ..
[14:50] <jeremiah_> th0r,  Ah...
[14:50] <jeremiah_> th0r,  Is there any alternative/loophole?
[14:50] <th0r> jeremiah_: there is some support for windows reading ext3....but I wouldn't depend on it, and it is an addon, not from microsoft
[14:50] <Pegaso_R> but, jeremiah... i suppose what you want to share between both OS is only "your documents" and not all your /home
[14:50] <jeremiah_> th0r,  Ah.... So basically, no real alt?
[14:51] <th0r> jeremiah_: you can put your data in an ntfs partition and mount it to /home/data or some such...keep all your pictures, docs, music, in that partition
[14:51] <jeremiah_> Pegaso_R,  Yes, but that means placing it all into a seperate file.. :/
[14:51] <jeremiah_> th0r, ^
[14:52] <jeremiah_> Would it be possible to have my windows my computer linked to ubuntu?
[14:52] <zaZa> Hello world!
[14:52] <SuperLag> not really, not easily anyways
[14:52] <zaZa> SuperLag: can you please help me.
[14:52] <zaZa> what does this command mean?
[14:52] <zaZa> arp -s 172.16.0.1 00:10:18:74:d4:3c
[14:53] <Pici> zaZa: have you read the arp manpage?
[14:53] <jeremiah_> So basically, I'm boned..
[14:53] <zaZa> since, I am in somewhere, and it says "to protect urself from arp soof, run that command"
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: using a shared NTFS partition for casual data is going to be easiest. Also makes backups super simple
[14:53] <zaZa> ActionParsnip; what does this command mean, arp -s 172.16.0.1 00:10:18:74:d4:3c
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> zaZa: have you read the arp man page?
[14:53] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip,  That would be the idea... In case one os or the other fails...
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: indeed
[14:54] <SuperLag> jeremiah_: it's not the most convenient of suggestions... but maybe you should look into a NAS appliance for the data you want to share between OSes
[14:54] <zaZa> is this a 'evil' command? arp -s 172.16.0.1 00:10:18:74:d4:3c
[14:54] <jeremiah_> ActionParsnip,  But also to be able to swap in between oses, and have all my data easily accessed in both
[14:54] <fyksen> Hey! I'm trying to open xbmc with an Xbox 360 game controller.  The remote works in games and in xbmc, but I can't map a key to open an application. Any tips? :)
[14:55] <Pici> zaZa: Its a new arp table entry. Its 'evilness' depends on the context.
[14:55] <jeremiah_> SuperLag,  I guess i could look into it...
[14:55] <th0r> jeremiah_: this is really sneaky...mount the entire windows partition to someplace like /mnt/windows, then create soft links such as /home/pictures to the pictures folder in /mnt/windows...etc
[14:55] <jeremiah_> th0r,  So, mount my files into a partition.. I think we must go deeper...
[14:56] <zaZa> Pici: I am in a hotel, and they say, "Protect yourself from ARP spoof, run this command: arp -s 172.16.0.1 00:10:18:74:d4:3c
[14:56] <th0r> jeremiah_: mount the entire C drive to a mount point like /mnt/windows, then link individual folders in C drive /home
[14:56] <zaZa> also, im using their wifi
[14:56] <zaZa> and they told me to run that command to protect myself from arp spoof
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> jeremiah_: yes, a separate NTFS partition will fix that as Windows can only access a few file systems, so you accommodate its shortcomings
[14:56] <jeremiah_> th0r I guess that could potentially work..
[14:57] <SuperLag> zaZa: dude. Just don't worry about it.
[14:57] <th0r> jeremiah_: it would appear to be /home/user/pictures, but would really be /mnt/windows/Users/my documents/ pictures....or whatever windows calls it <smile>
[14:57] <zaZa> are you sure, superlag
[14:57] <SuperLag> zaZa: the chances of that happening in a hotel you're only going to be in for a limited time... very very slim
[14:57] <jeremiah_> th0r,  I get the idea...
[14:57] <jeremiah_> th0r,  I guess i could try that out.
[14:57] <Pici> zaZa: I'd be more wary of adding a new custom arp table entry.
[14:57] <jeremiah_> th0r,  Whenever i have time, I'll try it out
[14:57] <SuperLag> yeah, no kidding
[14:58] <jeremiah_> Thnx guys! Toodloo!
[14:58] <Mark_> zaZa: Beyond "protecting" from a potential mitm, that doesn't do squat :P
[14:58] <Mark_> Even then, I'm hesitant to consider that some kind of "mitigation" against arp spoofing.
[14:59] <GSM434>   /part
[14:59] <zaZa> I see
[14:59] <zaZa> Mark_: well, I use their wifi and they told me "protect yourself from arp spoof and run that command" so I did, now I am wondering if they can get my pws and stuff...
[15:00] <Mark_> zaZa: Anyone who controls intermediate network devices can inject, steal, monitor your data streams passively if you don't encrypt to the end point.
[15:01] <djono> hello all. im move my finger around on the touch pad and lines follow the cursor like i was in paint
[15:01] <zaZa> Mark_: I just ran that command, am I safe?
[15:01] <SuperLag> ugh.... how many times
[15:01] <Mark_> zaZa: No, not at all.
[15:02] <cprofitt> zaZa: I agree with Mark_ as well
[15:03] <cprofitt> infact running that command, depending on who gave that to you could actually be a bad thing
[15:03] <djono> hello all. im move my finger around on the touch pad and lines follow the cursor like i was in paint
[15:03] <zaZa> "This command prevents your machine from arp netcut"
[15:04] <Sora1995|Cloud> hmm... whenever i try to mount my tablet, i get this message: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[15:04] <Sora1995|Cloud> i'm on zorin os 6, which is based on 12.04
[15:05] <_striker_> Guys m not hearing anythin from my headphone on 12.04
[15:05] <_striker_> Any idea why?
[15:08] <_striker_> quit
[15:09] <Wolverine> Hey guys
[15:09] <Wolverine> I've got an issue, My wifi's working on ubuntu, but not on Windows.
[15:09] <harryflintlock> Partinks spee spaga speel scrap.  Ruda Trooda.  Ejection request.  Heffy the jello wup.  Juffo-wup!  rab locid rebbasmoth.  The Proteus Animal Plannable.  Poo da Boo!  need 10-15 people straight  Groaning my grurch nords.
[15:09] <auronandace> Sora1995|Cloud: not supported here
[15:09] <djono> you need the drivers wolverine
[15:09] <harryflintlock> agrillio mellish.  Blakes my bog.  kedda mah go go mageezik  Renna manuck to the ruthafied sneffal  The Rump Shaking Rider Crew - Fuck You!  Wren a men a menna menna moo, filling my jolts and filling my shoe, plenk a  peek a pokie zal nawl knife
[15:10] <harryflintlock> Shaar nag lililly linomp nip.  Many mini minotaur taurs, hate tar tar sauce.  I am a robibbob meme.  Have you ever thought about where the bird goes?  Squirnish Mernish.  Jelly jolaggalan joo!  Chuh lap lap rillip.  Oh I grew three years.  I'm old now.
[15:10] <Wolverine> djono - I've updated from the Intel website (I've got an Intel Wifi card)
[15:10] <harryflintlock> Does anyone heck teck the rooga beega bagga?  Hebber master hoon a ferr fee.  Hilly a mackhole.  The shiny dot in the middle of a liddle light, of the middle of a lep lep lains!  Gotta get that schit ass shcrap  biteoad.  Ruproudj a malef loo
[15:10] <harryflintlock> Moistie bather.  riberian schmecklef  Mulla Malee loo lup the new flood wars.  Chuddy dip, chuddy dip, chuddy microchip.  Bucka lucka loo, bucky lucky blay.  Bucka lucky blay lee.
[15:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !ops | WE HAVE A SPAMMER!
[15:10] <Sora1995|Cloud> auronandace: i wasn't sure if zorin had their own channel or not, so thought i'd ask in here seeing as though it's based on 12.04
[15:10] <Sora1995|Cloud> thanks
[15:11] <roasted> hello friends. I thought I remembered a way to have a live rsync continually run. does anybody by chance know what that is offhand?
[15:11] <djono> wolverine better to use the comps manufacturers website
[15:12] <Wolverine> djono - they redirect to the Intel site.. lol
[15:14] <djono> wolverine is a new install of windows?
[15:15] <SonikkuAmerica> roasted: cron?
[15:15] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: I found it, I think. it's async.
[15:15] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: it's basically a continual rsync, forever. not scheduled.
[15:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[15:15] <w4ve> roasted: rsync dosen't monitor filesystem changes, you'd need to write a script/daemon to check for changes then run rsync
[15:15] <w4ve> ahhh
[15:15] <Wolverine> no, same windows install.. I was using ubuntu from live usb because the system file was corrupt, and needed to do a copy of the old hives from the C:/Windows folder... and I didn't have the WIndows XP CD
[15:16] <Wolverine> (sorry, that was @djono)
[15:16] <djono> u need the xp drivers
[15:17] <Wolverine> djono, yeah.. the intel website has this Java applet that detects your OS, and hardware and downloads the appropriate drivers..
[15:17] <Wolverine> still doesn't work..
[15:17] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica, w4ve, I lied, it's lsyncd. just for what it's worth. :D
[15:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Ah.
[15:18] <Wolverine> I'm wondering if Using wifi on ubuntu changed something in the card itself? Is that even possible?
[15:18] <Wolverine> some config settings, so that now Windows can't understand the card?
[15:18] <w4ve> roasted: Yah it looks like lsyncd is just a daemon that monitors tree changes and then starts rsync, thats pretty neat
[15:19] <roasted> w4ve: should come in handy for a linux based surveillance system. That way if 1st box is stolen or blows up, a live copy is existent elsewhere. :D
[15:19] <djono> no ubuntu wouldnt change anything
[15:20] <Wolverine> Hmm.. I guess I'll try the drivers one more time
[15:21] <w4ve> roasted: It would be interesting to see how well rsync will work for this purpose. I guess it depends on how your dvr software records/writes files.
[15:21] <roasted> w4ve: I use Motion from the repos, so things are recorded as AVIs right to a specific directory.
[15:22] <roasted> w4ve: rsync would work brilliantly, but rsync can only run if triggered, whether manually or via cron.
[15:22] <roasted> w4ve: I kind of wanted a raid 1 mirror style setup, just between 2 boxes instead of 2 internal drives.
[15:25] <w4ve> roasted: I understand the limitations of rsync, but from what ive read it looks like lsyncd is just a daemon that starts rsync when it finds a file system change. Im just interested to see the network/proccessing toll from constantly scanning the files for changes and copying them. (Because the video file will always be changing)
[15:25] <soy_el_pulpo> roasted: that is called replication
[15:26] <soy_el_pulpo> roasted: you will have to independent servers that are replicating the content of a share or filesystem
[15:26] <roasted> soy_el_pulpo: lsyncd is actualy doing exactly as I want. Just fired it up.
[15:27] <roasted> soy_el_pulpo: I just want a raw copy of data on a 2nd server thats always updated
[15:28] <Alexpenfold> hiii
[15:29] <soy_el_pulpo> roasted: great, take a look at: Distributed Replicated Block Device (DRBD) in the Ubuntu server guide
[15:30] <roasted> soy_el_pulpo: what would that provide me that lsyncd doesn't?
[15:30] <soy_el_pulpo> not sure, never used lsyncd ;)
[15:31] <mprat> I'm having some problems with my ld linker for gcc/g++ - it keeps trying to use the linker stored at /usr/local/bin rather than the one stored at /usr/bin - any ideas how to fix that?
[15:39] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:39] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[15:41] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[15:41] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[15:42] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[15:42] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:42] <somsip> mprat: change the order of your $PATH. But seems like a strange thing to have to do...
[15:43] <mprat> i know how to change the $PATH
[15:44] <mprat> but how do i change it permanently instead of having to do it every time?
[15:44] <mprat> (incidentally, changing the path doesn't solve the problem)
[15:44] <somsip> mprat: ok. Maybe not the right idea then
[15:47] <mprat> What file do the environment variables get set in?
[15:48] <sherlock_regus> transparency not available in gnome 3.8
[15:48] <sherlock_regus> what to do
[15:48] <WeThePeople> hi i am haveing trouble getting my mic to work properly, nobody can here me when i speak into it and the volume is turne all the way up
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> sherlock_regus: contact the PPA maintainer of the PPA you added
[15:49] <auronandace> sherlock_regus:  3.8 isn't supported here (same with all ppas)
[15:49] <mprat> WeThePeople: do you have the right drivers installed?
[15:49] <WeThePeople> mprat, how do i check this
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> sherlock_regus: if you start adding 3rd party sources to your OS, don't be surprised if you get issues
[15:50] <WeThePeople> mprat, im on 12.04.2 gnome
[15:52] <sherlock_regus> but gnome is a trusted one
[15:52] <sherlock_regus> early version had transparency property
[15:52] <sherlock_regus> for windows
[15:52] <pc175> hi ubuntu fans.... problem for editing proxychans.conf...... someone help?
[15:55] <Sirisian|Work> I just setup a fresh ubuntu server using the newest version in a VM and turned on bridged adapter and then set a static ip and installed ssh, but when I try to ssh into the ip I set (that shows in ifconfig) I just get "Network error: Software caused connection abort" immediately. (Doesn't matter what static ip I use).
[15:55] <pc175> plz help to edit .... /etc.proxychans.conf
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> sherlock_regus: its not the package from the Ubuntu repos so is not supported here
[15:56] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, i am having a problem with my mic, the volume is turned up all the way and nobody can hear me
[15:56] <pc175> dear ... how can i edit .. / etc/proxychans.conf
[15:57] <pc175> someone plz help me ubuntu 12.04
[16:00] <[OS]Cazazo> Hi there
[16:01] <Hamed> Hi everybody.
[16:01] <[OS]Cazazo> I need help to clean the mess done by install and uninstall KDE
[16:01] <Hamed> May you please help me with broken drivers?
[16:02] <[OS]Cazazo> most of my apps have the bloody KDE theme...
[16:02] <[OS]Cazazo> and font...
[16:02] <[OS]Cazazo> even after uninstall
[16:03] <maxiaojun> anyone played https://www.cubeslam.com/ ?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> [OS]Cazazo  start with sudo apt-get autoremove, to remove any unwanted remainders
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> maxiaojun  wrong channel
[16:03] <maxiaojun> it is a nice game but in Chrome many stuff renders black
[16:03] <[OS]Cazazo> i did it...
[16:03] <pseudoweb> Hi there, anibody can support me? i need make a question about something
[16:04] <devoid> hi all, how do I get the source for linux 3.8.0-23?
[16:04] <maxiaojun> MonkeyDuct: problem is it renders differently in Firefox and Chrome
[16:04] <maxiaojun> Firefox seems ok
[16:04] <pseudoweb> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for test
[16:04] <maxiaojun> Chrome many black areas
[16:04] <pseudoweb> can anybody help me pls
[16:04] <[OS]Cazazo> MonkeyDust: any thing else I could try?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> [OS]Cazazo  in synaptic, residual config, maybe?
[16:05] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[16:05] <[OS]Cazazo> will try that now...
[16:05] <pseudoweb> passwd: You may not view or modify password information for test
[16:06] <somsip> pseudoweb: if you are trying to change the password for a user, you must use 'sudo passwd username'
[16:06] <Hamed> I Installed compat-drivers (https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation/compat-drivers#Building_and_installing) and it broke everything. I uninstalled it by starting-up in command root mode and using sudo make unistall. It seems that everything is right now, but my graphics is broken. (Graphics is not broken under older images in advanced booting). May you please help me fixing my default boot?
[16:07] <pseudoweb> user@ubuntu:~$ sudo passwd games
[16:07] <pseudoweb> passwd: User not known to the underlying authentication module
[16:07] <pseudoweb> passwd: password unchanged
[16:07] <somsip> pseudoweb: is there a user called 'games'?
[16:07] <pseudoweb> yep
[16:07] <pseudoweb> im try to change this user passwd
[16:07] <pseudoweb> and the user test then
[16:08] <somsip> pseudoweb: do the users have loging enabled?
[16:08] <pseudoweb> yep
[16:08] <somsip> *login
[16:08] <maxiaojun> anyone reproduced my problem?
[16:09] <pseudoweb> i dont understand
[16:09] <pseudoweb> why i have user: user
[16:09] <pseudoweb> and be on etc passwd seems like a shadowed
[16:09] <pseudoweb> and test user
[16:09] <pseudoweb> have normal
[16:10] <somsip> pseudoweb: what version of ubuntu?
[16:10] <pseudoweb> 7.10
[16:10] <somsip> pseudoweb: ouch
[16:10] <genii> pseudoweb: Does the user called "user" have sudo rights?
[16:10] <pseudoweb> yep
[16:10] <pseudoweb> an example.... of a user...
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> maxiaojun  if it's a chrome issue, try chromium instead, it"-s in the repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[16:10] <pseudoweb> system:$1$7P8cYoZw$etYkAKqgcDJdPr3g6d8wI1:1040:30000:,,,:/home/system:/bin/bash
[16:11] <pseudoweb> when test
[16:11] <pseudoweb> have normal
[16:11] <pseudoweb> an example of my tets user system:x:545:545::/home/:/bin/bash
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> pseudoweb: is the file system mouted read only?
[16:11] <pseudoweb> Duno
[16:11] <somsip> pseudoweb: check /var/log/auth.log for more helpful messages
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> pseudoweb: 7.10 is very EOL
[16:11] <maxiaojun> MonkeyDust: i used to have chromium-browser installed, but Google Hangouts make it messy
[16:12] <pseudoweb> :<
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> Hi :-) I have a problem when I plug a external dock for 4 hard disks (this one: http://www.tweaktown.com/pressrelease/5236/sharkoon_sata_quickport_quattro_for_up_to_four_sata_hard_drives_and_ssds/index.html )
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> It works if I plug it using a usb2.0 cable, but if I use a usb3.0 cable... the nightmare starts.
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> Using Ubuntu 12.10 everything worked.
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> Since I installed 13.04 it doesn't work (fresh install, not upgrade). If I boot with the device already connected, it works, but if I unplug and plug again (hotplug), my system freezes for 10 seconds, and then the PCIe USB3 card is "disabled".
[16:12] <FloodBot1> Pegaso_R: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <steffen_java> Type here:
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> (sorry for the flood, oops)
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> I've pasted results of lspci, lsusb and dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761868/
[16:12] <Pegaso_R> Can someone give me a hand? :-)
[16:13] <somsip> pseudoweb: found one recommendation to rebuild the shadow - *NEEDS MORE RESEARCH* but man pwconv for more info
[16:13] <[OS]Cazazo> oh man...
[16:13] <[OS]Cazazo> gnome classic still messed up by kde
[16:14] <pseudoweb> somsip thanks a lot... i will try... if not work im gonna download the latest version of ubuntu
[16:14] <[OS]Cazazo> what would be the best way to remove the kde from the system??
[16:14] <ubuntuisawesome> purge
[16:14] <ubuntuisawesome> ...sudo apt-get purge plasma-desktop
[16:14] <somsip> pseudoweb: it really would be a good idea.
[16:14] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[16:14] <maxiaojun> chromium-browser black also
[16:14] <[OS]Cazazo> will try taht now
[16:15] <pseudoweb> thanks for all, c ya later, thanks again
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pseudoweb: i'd go for Precise
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pseudoweb: it is LTS and supported til April 2017
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> maxiaojun  if you know the cause of the issue, remove that cause... what's google hangouts?
[16:15] <Hamed> Any idea about my problem? :(
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pseudoweb: the latest stable won't be supported after January 2014
[16:16] <pseudoweb> Ok Thanks
[16:16] <maxiaojun> MonkeyDust: i decided to report bug to chromium
[16:16] <devoid> any kernel devs around here? I think I found a regression on the ixgbe driver?
[16:16] <devoid> I need to get the 3.8 source though to confirm.
[16:17] <devoid> and I can't seem to find it?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> devoid  #ubuntu-kernel
[16:17] <maxiaojun> google hangouts is a chromium/chrome extension that can be launched from firefox when it is enabled in gmail
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> maxiaojun  you like to keep things simple?
[16:18] <devoid> MonkeyDust: thx
[16:18] <maxiaojun> MonkeyDust: sure, i switched back to origin gtalk, but i do like some of google hangouts' feature
[16:19] <Sector_0> which is the better driver in terms of stability and performance, the proprietary ATI driver or the opensource driver?
[16:19] <Sector_0> I'm using the ATI radeon 5500HD redwood
[16:19] <Sector_0> also I want to be able to use OpenCL
[16:20] <Pegaso_R> Hi :-) I have a problem when I plug a external dock for 4 hard disks (this one: http://www.tweaktown.com/pressrelease/5236/sharkoon_sata_quickport_quattro_for_up_to_four_sata_hard_drives_and_ssds/index.html ).  It works if I plug it using a usb2.0 cable, but if I use a usb3.0 cable... the nightmare starts.   Using Ubuntu 12.10 everything worked.   Since I installed 13.04 it doesn't work (fresh install, not upgrade). If I boot with the device already connec
[16:20] <Pegaso_R> ted, it works, but if I unplug and plug again (hotplug), my system freezes for 10 seconds, and then the PCIe USB3 card is "disabled".
[16:20] <Pegaso_R> I've pasted results of lspci, lsusb and dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761868/   .  Can someone give me a hand, please? :-)
[16:21] <sere> Rainy sync server with tomboy help please..http://paste.ubuntu.com/5760189/
[16:23] <cheshair> Hi I am installing Ubuntu on a pc and would like to put there pretty much the same sw I have installed on another ubuntu pc (both of them are 13.04)
[16:23] <cheshair> How can i do that?
[16:23] <DJones> !cloning | cheshair
[16:23] <cheshair> DJones: hey! that's super fast and super helpful!!
[16:23] <cheshair> DJones: thanks!
[16:24] <Hamed> I Installed compat-drivers (https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation/compat-drivers#Building_and_installing) and it broke everything. I uninstalled it by starting-up in command root mode and using sudo make unistall. It seems that everything is right now, but my graphics is broken. (Graphics is not broken under older images in advanced booting). May you please help me fixing my default boot?
[16:26] <bananapie> hey, I am trying to compile some C code I found on the internet. It says 'glib.h: No such file or directory' So I changed the glib.h to /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h. Now I get hundreds of messages for glib/*.h files. So how do I tell the compiler to look for header files in /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib.h ?
[16:27] <Pegaso_R> Sorry, I'm not very used to this king of chats... Is there a way to know if someone is looking at a question i made before? (don't want to ask it again if there's someone already looking at it)
[16:27] <Pegaso_R> king=kind
[16:29] <SouLcRy> ıfgf
[16:32] <maxiaojun> bug filed: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=249376
[16:33] <DJones> Pegaso_R: You'll only know if somebody has seen your question if they reply to you, if you don't get an answer, its probably best to repeat the question at about 10-15 minute intervals
[16:34] <Pegaso_R> DJones, thanks :-)
[16:35] <atomx> Is it possible to install IOS 7 on my iphone, if I connect the iphone to Ubuntu ?
[16:37] <OerHeks> atomx, unlikely, you need iTunes for that.
[16:38] <atomx> I entered the iphone in Itunes Mode , and I connected it to ubuntu
[16:38] <atomx> however, there is no reaction
[16:38] <samgabbay> how can i speed up my ubuntu 13.04
[16:39] <atomx> [171378.015261] usb 2-1.2: new high-speed USB device number 10 using ehci-pci
[16:39] <atomx> [171378.109025] usb 2-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1281
[16:39] <atomx> [171378.109036] usb 2-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=4
[16:39] <atomx> [171378.109042] usb 2-1.2: Product: Apple Mobile Device (Recovery Mode)
[16:39] <atomx> [171378.109047] usb 2-1.2: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[16:39] <FloodBot1> atomx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:39] <atomx> [171378.109052] usb 2-1.2: SerialNumber: xxxx SRNM:[yyyy]
[16:40] <samgabbay> How do i speed up my ubuntu 13.04
[16:40] <samgabbay> (raring)
[16:40] <atomx> So , no chamnce to connect it ?
[16:40] <atomx> samgabbay: I updated from 12.04
[16:40] <bazhang> samgabbay, speed up what exactly, be very clear
[16:41] <samgabbay> Speed up in terns of faster response cause sometimes it just freezes randomly and like i want just the op to be fast
[16:41] <sere> samgabbay: you can clear certain caches and programs with bleachbit
[16:41] <bazhang> samgabbay, what does that mean "the op to be fast"
[16:42] <atomx> samgabbay: sorry, I thought you asked "how can I update from ...."
[16:42] <samgabbay> bazhang, for the operating system to be fast
[16:42] <samgabbay> atomx,  its okay man
[16:42] <samgabbay> sere,  how do i do that
[16:42] <samgabbay> guys is there like a single program to fully speedup and optomize ubuntu
[16:42] <bazhang> samgabbay, what exact operations are slower than before, how much ram do you have, what cpu, what things in the OS are slow
[16:42] <sere> samgabbay: sudo apt-get install bleachbit
[16:44] <temeraire> samgabbay: What do yoy mean by 'freezes up'... does is stop responding?
[16:44] <samgabbay> temeraire,  yes especially when i do vm
[16:44] <samgabbay> bazhang,  here it is http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02618765&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=5037998 but with ubuntu 13.04
[16:45] <bazhang> samgabbay, how much ram. what video card, and what driver, what cpu. please tell us here
[16:45] <atomx> Seems that it is impossible to access the iphone 's itunes from Ubuntu
[16:45] <temeraire> samgabbay: does the mouse pointer stop responding?
[16:45] <atomx> However, did somebody know when ios7 will be available for everybody ?
[16:45] <samgabbay> temeraire,  not really its mostly programs
[16:46] <bazhang> atomx, thats correct. iTunes will not run on Linux.
[16:46] <samgabbay> bazhang, its on there its too long to copy
[16:46] <temeraire> it's not freezing then, its just being slow
[16:46] <atomx> bazhang: I see here http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-ios-7-device-update-20130611,0,2466162.story
[16:46] <bazhang> atomx, try in an apple channel, thats not an ubuntu issue
[16:46] <samgabbay> atomx,  yes ios will be available usually after 2-4 months usually probs when school starts again
[16:46] <sayd> I just tried adding the add-apt-reposititory program via `apt-get install python-software-properties` but its still not available
[16:46] <atomx> that will be available in fall
[16:46] <samgabbay> temeraire,  howcan i speed it up
[16:47] <temeraire> samgabbay: i have to ask you, is it faster in windows?
[16:47] <atomx> (the first phrase in this article says that)
[16:47] <bazhang> atomx, iOS is not on topic here
[16:47] <samgabbay> temeraire,  yea but i got rid of windows and i wanna use ubuntu only
[16:47] <nimbiotics> I have linux mint installed and want to move to ubuntu studio. I have three questions: 1) Can I make a backup in mint and restore it in the to be installed ubuntu? 2) What is a good backup tool? and 3) Please point to a good tutorial on backups! TIA!
[16:48] <atomx> bazhang: there are people he who tried to connect it to ubuntu
[16:48] <atomx> but my problem is solved
[16:48] <DJones> atomx: That doesn't help the fact that iOS/iTunes isn't designed to work on Ubuntu
[16:48] <temeraire> samgabbay: looking at the GPU, i think it's the fact that 13.04 (compiz) needs hefty 3d acceleration and if you used a different DE it might be quicker
[16:48] <atomx> I will update in fall
[16:48] <samgabbay> temeraire,  what should i do?? i have compiz settings on here
[16:48] <atomx> bye.
[16:48] <bazhang> nimbiotics, the installer may give you an option to not delete /home  . back up /home nonetheless
[16:48] <OerHeks> atomx, connecting to ubuntu or update/upgrade/install software are 2 different things, itunes won't work for your issue
[16:49] <sere> samgabbay: you could try a lighter derivative of ubuntu .. lubuntu
[16:49] <temeraire> samgabbay: you could try one of the ubuntu spins like xubuntu or something, they're linked on the main website. i think your prblem is basically compiz needs a fast gpu
[16:49] <samgabbay> sere,  but i wanna keep ubuntu i really love it
[16:49] <samgabbay> are there any tweaks i can use on compiz settings
[16:49] <samgabbay> i did some tweaking to speed up unity search and it worked
[16:50] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone I have a problem with snmpd on ubuntu 11.04 it responds to a snmpwalk -v2c localhost but not if I'm on an external machine running the snmpwalk -v2c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx , if I use -v 1 it works as expected
[16:50] <samgabbay> but i juust did it i dont knwo if il be for the whole system
[16:50] <temeraire> unity or compiz:  I dont know which
[16:50] <bgardner> samgabbay: You can try out xubuntu or lubunu without committing permanently.
[16:50] <bazhang> samgabbay, you have yet to tell us the video card or how much ram
[16:50] <temeraire> bazhang: he has linked the spec already
[16:50] <samgabbay> i already posted all the hardwware info
[16:50] <samgabbay> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02618765&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=5037998
[16:50] <samgabbay> bgardner,  i jsut really like ubuntu itself
[16:50] <sere> samgabbay: if your running VM's that will slow down your machine alot
[16:51] <meganerd> samgabbay: just disable all of the fancy effects
[16:51] <temeraire> bazhang: radeon 4250 HD and some AMD phenom i dont remember,
[16:51] <samgabbay> sere,  im not running the vm at the moment
[16:51] <samgabbay> meganerd,  how?
[16:51] <samgabbay> meganerd,  fallback?
[16:51] <nimbiotics> bazhang: OH, didnt know that ... Thanks! Nevertheless my /home is huge as I do have to manage lots of large files: What is a good to do backups??
[16:52] <temeraire> that GPU wont run starcraft 2
[16:52] <meganerd> samgabbay: I don't remember off the top of my head, I am at work with my laptop which runs KDE
[16:52] <samgabbay> meganerd,  can u check for meh
[16:52] <samgabbay> and guys i got bleachbit but should i run it as root?
[16:52] <Remowylliams> Hello everyone I have a problem with snmpd on ubuntu 11.04 it responds to a snmpwalk -v2c localhost but not if I'm on an external machine running the snmpwalk -v2c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx , if I use -v 1 it works as expected
[16:52] <bazhang> nimbiotics, that depends; if you wish to clone, then clonezilla, if more gradual then rsync or others
[16:52] <meganerd> on my slow machine at home I remember going in to the settings menu and just disabling all the fancy effects
[16:52] <Remowylliams> err sorry snmpwalk -v2c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -c public
[16:53] <sere> samgabbay: do you use any  memory management programs.. like gkrellm, conky, top
[16:53] <nimbiotics> bazhang: Thanks
[16:53] <meganerd> Remowylliams: check the firewall, check to make sure that snmpd is accepting connections from remote hosts, IIRC v2 requires authentication
[16:53] <Remowylliams> it's setup the same on 2 ubuntu 12.04 and works fine
[16:53] <samgabbay> sere,  nope
[16:53] <meganerd> samgabbay: I won't be home for at least 8 hours :)
[16:54] <samgabbay> meganerd,  :/
[16:54] <Remowylliams> meganerd: I don't think I'm running any firewall on this machine it does respond to -v 1 just fine
[16:55] <samgabbay> guys do it run bleachbit on root?? and how do i remove keytouch
[16:56] <sere> samgabbay: i would suggest to start.. conky is nice, runs on the desktop.. gkrellm is simple.. top is console base ... either one you can see what is using your ram / cpu and when so you can narrow down what is using all the ram when it slows down\
[16:57] <samgabbay> sere,  can u give me the guide on how to get conky with the google theem]
[16:57] <Slash> sup guise
[16:57] <sere> samgabbay: sudo apt-get install conly
[16:57] <sere> conky*
[16:57] <samgabbay> google now theme **
[16:57] <SteveBell> hi all. I did something immensly stupid. while fiddeling with a harddrive I managed to copy lots of data instead to the expeted target drive to the internal ubuntu harddrive. this drive seems to be full to the last byte now. and it does no longer boot up. all I see is a screen taht "the system is running in low-graphics mode" is there anything I can do now to get this working again?
[16:59] <neo2> SteveBell, you don't have a live cd you can use?
[16:59] <SteveBell> I have a bootable usb stick
[16:59] <sere> samgabbay: here http://www.deviantart.com/art/Conky-Now-369072046
[16:59] <DarkAceLaptop> http://pastebin.com/8VsESwsS anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm following a very old documentation to set up a 32bit chroot
[16:59] <MrGarlic> Which version of Ubuntu has the best MacBook Pro support? I hear it's 12.10. Is this true?
[16:59] <samgabbay> sere,  found it im installing it one second
[17:00] <neo2> SteveBell, so what's the problem then?
[17:00] <sere> samgabbay: there are alot but i would learn how use conky  before editing themes etc.
[17:00] <samgabbay> sere,  how do i use it?
[17:00] <samgabbay> sere,  im using this guidehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/google-now-themed-conky-for-ubuntu-desktop
[17:00] <SteveBell> neo2 current problem is, I can#t boot. so what would I do with that USB then?
[17:02] <neo2> SteveBell, boot from the usb then... you can set the bios to boot first from a usb
[17:02] <samgabbay> btw guys how do i remove keytouch
[17:02] <samgabbay> and how do i remove conky
[17:02] <samgabbay> i meant
[17:02] <samgabbay> how do i use it
[17:02] <nimbiotics> Using grsync, I am trying to backup to a dvd+r, but I cannot see the device in destinations. Please help. TIA!
[17:02] <SteveBell> neo2: ok I get that, but what would I do then? simply reinstall from USB or boot from USB and try to erase files to clear some space?
[17:02] <br0tat0chip> is anyone running Ubuntu (or any flavor) on a macbook air?
[17:03] <xangua> !anyone | br0tat0chip
[17:03] <br0tat0chip> okay.  what's the battery life on a macbook air running linux
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics  i guess because rsync has no burn option
[17:03] <^Mike> I have an external HDD enclosure, with an LVM logical volume spanning both drives. I want to replace that with an encrypted LV. Am I correct in thinking that I can shrink the existing LV so it only fits the current files, then create a new encrypted LV in the remaining space, then move files over to the new LV, readjusting the LV sizes as I go, and then finally removing the old LV? The filesystem on the existing LV is ext4, which I believe can be shrunk,
[17:03] <^Mike>  right?
[17:03] <sere> samgabbay: that theme doest give your top cpu / top memory usage.. only how many processes open
[17:03] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: how can I acomplish this then?
[17:04] <samgabbay> sere, is there a nice theme that doesent fully look like a simple command promt
[17:04] <DarkAceLaptop> I'm following a very old documentation to set up a 32bit chroot
[17:04] <DarkAceLaptop> but I don't know what http://pastebin.com/8VsESwsS
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics  not sure, never tried
[17:04] <paul_> i need to have a driver daemon (razerd) start automatically each time along with some xinput commands to set mouse acceleration (those only after razerd has been initialized) is rc.local the place to do this ?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> !burn | nimbiotics
[17:06] <xangua> samgabbay: conky colors is easy to set http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=92328
[17:06] <samgabbay> xangua, like is theme a theme with weather at least
[17:07] <sobczyk> hi, which package contains the kernel config file for raring?
[17:07] <trism> DarkAceLaptop: if it is an ubuntu/debian chroot you'll need to: echo "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" | sudo tee -a /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local; before you reconfigure locales so it builds a locale
[17:08] <samgabbay> anyone knows hwo to geet rid of keytouch
[17:08] <trism> DarkAceLaptop: though I'm not sure why you care in a chroot
[17:08] <DarkAceLaptop> trism: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[17:08] <DarkAceLaptop> they're telling me to ┐('～`；)┌
[17:08] <minimec> sobczyk: The kernel package... ;) The config file is in /boot for all installed kernels.
[17:09] <sobczyk> minimec: you mean the binary, not the source?
[17:09] <minimec> sobczyk: binary
[17:09] <bin_bash> br0tat0chip, did you need help, my son?
[17:09] <hanner> hi, is there a way to further increase the mouse' speed, if i am already at max via ubuntus GUI? do i have to create a xorg.conf if i don't want to workaround this using pointer acceleration and xset?
[17:09] <DarkAceLaptop> Generation complete.
[17:09] <DarkAceLaptop> thanks trism
[17:09] <trism> DarkAceLaptop: yeah you don't need to do that, especially for en_US since the C locale is basically the same
[17:10] <sere> samgabbay: http://pbrd.co/1413Itx : im not sure what you like the console but you can output anything conky.. if you want a black or white background you can do that to
[17:10] <DarkAceLaptop> oh, too late :P
[17:10] <trism> DarkAceLaptop: not going to hurt anything though
[17:10] <DarkAceLaptop> great
[17:11] <Pegaso_R> Hi :-) I have a problem when I plug a external dock for 4 hard disks using 13.04.  It works if I plug it using a usb2.0 cable, but if I use a usb3.0 cable... the nightmare starts.   Using Ubuntu 12.10 everything worked. Any help, please?
[17:11] <sobczyk> isn't schroot better than dchroot? it handles passwd and similar automatically
[17:12] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: I still can't figure out how to backup/restore to/from multiple cd/dvd's. Can you give me a hint on that?
[17:13] <tking> please how do i put file in this directory /usr/share/stardict/dic
[17:14] <sere> cp -r file_location  /usr/share/stardict/dic'
[17:14] <sere> no '
[17:15] <daftykins> sere: you'd need sudo before it, most likely
[17:16] <sere> daftykins: i was think that..hopefully he can figure that out when it tells him
[17:16] <bin_bash> sere, you don't need -r if it's just a file
[17:16] <tking> sere i right click in the folder and it did work, i have many folders and file to put there
[17:17] <tking> sere didn't work when i tried to paste
[17:17] <tking> how do i give the folder permission?
[17:18] <sere> tking: you can open a root nautilus and just move then into that root window
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics  try creating tar-files and copy those to dvd
[17:18] <tking> sere how please?
[17:19] <tking> how to open root nautilus?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> tking  not
[17:19] <bakaguyjam> whats the worst phone ubuntu can run on?
[17:19] <star12> hjbuibhi
[17:19] <DJones> !phone | bakaguyjam
[17:20] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: thx
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> nimbiotics  or use the batch method    rsync --write-batch=backup     then copy 'backup' and 'backup.sh' to dvd
[17:21] <yeehi>  I have a permission denied error when I try the following command: sudo cat isoimage.iso > /dev/sdX
[17:22] <sere> tking: cd /usr/share/stardict/dic/ then run sudo nautilus
[17:22] <trism> yeehi: > is captured by the shell, so it isn't running as root
[17:22] <yeehi> ooh, trism, thank you. What should I do to get the command to work?
[17:22] <trism> yeehi: sudo -i; first would be the most straightforward way
[17:23] <yeehi> let me try that, trism...
[17:23] <Pici> yeehi, trism: I personally would prefer doing: cat something | sudo tee /foo/bar
[17:23] <nimbiotics> MonkeyDust: now u want to drive nuts ... this is too much info for me to handle on a day like the one I'm having :D
[17:23] <yeehi> Hi, Pici, that is a little beyond me
[17:24] <armin> is there some example code that can put text elements in the upper unity panel?
[17:25] <armin> i don't use the menu integration so i have plenty of free space there now
[17:25] <yeehi> Oh, thank you so much, trism! That seems to have got it working for me.
[17:27] <Pegaso_R> Hi :-) I have a problem when I plug a external dock for 4 hard disks using 13.04.  It works if I plug it using a usb2.0 cable, but if I use a usb3.0 cable... the nightmare starts.   Using Ubuntu 12.10 everything worked. Any help, please?
[17:27] <sere> Pegaso_R: explain your dream please
[17:28] <Pegaso_R> sere: I've pasted results of lspci, lsusb and dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761868/
[17:28] <Pegaso_R> can you take a look please?
[17:29] <trism> Pici: indeed, generally that'd be my preference too
[17:30] <sere> Pegaso_R: sure
[17:30] <SteveBell> neo2: I booted from the USB. trying to delete that overly large folder now, but "move to trash" is greyed out. also the rm command in terminal didn't do anything
[17:30] <Pegaso_R> sere: thanks :-)
[17:31] <SteveBell> terminal says can't remove folder path: Is a directory
[17:31] <kboodu> SteveBell: Try sudo rm -rf directory_name
[17:32] <Eer> do a rm -rf  /path/to/directory
[17:32] <kboodu> SteveBell: Just be very certain you are removing the correct directory and everything below that.  This does a recursive (-r) force (-f) delete.
[17:32] <bin_bash> SteveBell, try to do rm -r before rm -rf
[17:32] <bin_bash> you don't wnat to force something if you don't have to
[17:32] <SteveBell> ok thx
[17:33] <bin_bash> SteveBell, rm -r removes files recursively, and allows you to delete directories. Also do NOT use sudo unless it's a root directory. If you make a typo,you can delete your entire system
[17:34] <tim__> how can i tell if the dd command is running? I did a dd command to overwrite the hd, and hit enter and it just has a big cursor, so i dont know if its working or not
[17:34] <Ilhami> Hey why is Ubuntu so bad?
[17:34] <bin_bash> tim__, that means it's running
[17:34] <br0tat0chip> Ilhami: in what way
[17:34] <bazhang> !ot | Ilhami
[17:35] <bin_bash> tim__, next time you can use the -v option which makes it vebose
[17:35] <bin_bash> verbose*
[17:35] <DarkAceLaptop> what does the cp command?
[17:35] <DarkAceLaptop> what does the cp command do?
[17:35] <bin_bash> DarkAceLaptop, copy
[17:35] <br0tat0chip> DarkAceLaptop: copies a file
[17:35] <DarkAceLaptop> ah
[17:35] <br0tat0chip> man cp
[17:35] <DarkAceLaptop> thought so
[17:35] <Ilhami> brb
[17:35] <DarkAceLaptop> I keep forgetting about man
[17:35] <Ilhami> I will tell you why
[17:35] <bin_bash> DarkAceLaptop, never run a command unless you know what it does
[17:35] <DarkAceLaptop> and --help
[17:35] <FloodBot1> DarkAceLaptop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <tim__> any rough idea how long it will take to overwrite a 180gig PATA drive (randomly) on a pentium 4?
[17:36] <bin_bash> tim__, couple hours maybe
[17:36] <tim__> hmm, i am at least 8 hours in
[17:36] <SteveBell> bin_bash: I tried do rm -r 'pathtofolder' and that results in "syntax error near unexpected token 'do'
[17:36] <Ilhami> When I installed it I got so many different errors.. drivers which were missing and so...
[17:37] <br0tat0chip> SteveBell: no need for "do"
[17:37] <bin_bash> tim__, just wait until it's done
[17:37] <tim__> bin_bash:  but if a big flashing cursor means its working, then i will just check back in another 8 hours right?
[17:37] <br0tat0chip> just rm -r /path/to/folder
[17:37] <bin_bash> SteveBell, give me the exact path
[17:38] <bin_bash> SteveBell, I need to know the exact command
[17:38] <bin_bash> you're using
[17:38] <changeover> hello all. how do i enable finger resting on an integrated touchpad?
[17:38] <br0tat0chip> bin_bash: he's using "do rm -r /path/to/file". he doesn't need the "do"
[17:38] <SteveBell> bin_bash I'm on antoher machine but it looks like '/media/longRowOfLettersAndNumbers/media/Data1' (data1 is the target drive name, where the files were intended to go but it was disconnected so now I have that data1 folder on the ubuntu drive.
[17:38] <Ilhami> Is Ubuntu open source????
[17:39] <DJones> Ilhami: From memory, the server side is closed source, client side may be open source
[17:39] <elisa87> Does anyone know how I can find "(LLVM_OBJ_ROOT)" ?
[17:40] <DarkAceLaptop> $ dchroot -d
[17:40] <DarkAceLaptop> W: No chroots are defined in ‘/etc/schroot/schroot.conf’ or ‘/etc/schroot/chroot.d’
[17:40] <DarkAceLaptop> E: default: Chroot not found
[17:40] <DarkAceLaptop> what exactly do I need to put in one of those files
[17:40] <SteveBell> bin_bash: ok without "do" it seems to be working. but I get asked for every single file if I want to remove write-protected regular file
[17:40] <bin_bash> SteveBell, lol.
[17:40] <bin_bash> wow
[17:41] <bin_bash> in the future
[17:41] <bin_bash> when someone says "do <this command>"
[17:41] <error404_> hey guys, i wanted to ask some questions about the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu
[17:41] <bin_bash> the do is not included
[17:41] <bin_bash> error404_, they're the same OS just different DE/WM
[17:41] <changeover> error404 xubuntu is really lightweight
[17:41] <changeover> but both the same
[17:41] <error404_> well i am running an old dell c400 laptop with half gig ram and 20 gig harddrive and im currently on ubuntu 12.4. 32bit
[17:42] <bin_bash> error404_, i wouldn't use ubuntu at all.
[17:42] <error404_> and i have been using it for almost 6 months, i love it but the desktop environ is slow
[17:42] <sere> Pegaso_R: not really sure.. i did however find this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775543
[17:42] <changeover> yeah definately xbuntu or lubuntu
[17:42] <bin_bash> error404_, I'd use a more lightweight distro like crunchbang
[17:42] <sere> Pegaso_R: it sounds like thats the same issue you are having
[17:42] <Ilhami> Windows > Ubuntu :)
[17:42] <changeover> crunchbang if u don't care about gui
[17:42] <Eer> I'm using pinguy 12.04 LTS on a vm works great
[17:42] <vabre> hi there. I need help with a screen problem in ubuntu 10.04. The desktop does not fill all the laptop's screen
[17:43] <changeover> i prefer lucid puppy
[17:43] <bazhang> Ilhami, take it elsewhere
[17:43] <DarkAceLaptop> Ilhami torl xDD
[17:43] <Ilhami> LOL
[17:43] <DJones> Ilhami: This channel isn't for discussion about which is better
[17:43] <bin_bash> error404_, crunchbang is a lightweight debian-based distro that uses openbox. it's probably the best choice for your dilemma
[17:43] <Pegaso_R> sere: thx... saw that one before, but i think it's a bit different...
[17:43] <error404_> well in the six months i have had ubuntu i have collected a good bit of info (dosbox programs, snes emu's, some writings, some pictures ect ect.)
[17:43] <bazhang> !rude
[17:43] <DarkAceLaptop> I removed it
[17:43] <Ilhami> why would anyone choose Ubuntu over Windows?
[17:43] <DarkAceLaptop> lol
[17:43] <error404_> if i install xubuntu from synaptic will i keep those files?
[17:43] <bazhang> ok just checking
[17:43] <Ilhami> Serious question
[17:43] <bin_bash> error404_, no it doesn't work like that. you don't just install xubuntu from synaptic
[17:43] <error404_> ilhami... theres no such thing as stupid questions
[17:44] <Pegaso_R> sere: and remember my dock was working when I was using 12.10.... that's the strange thing
[17:44] <bazhang> Ilhami, not for this channel
[17:44] <Ilhami> where should I ask then? in the #PHP channel?
[17:44] <DarkAceLaptop> I thought I had removed it before, but I forgot to check
[17:44] <DJones> !ot | Ilhami
[17:44] <DarkAceLaptop> and apparently I hadn't
[17:44] <error404_> well on the xfce website it said i could get the xubuntu desktop environment from synaptic and i went on and it was there
[17:44] <bin_bash> error404_, your stuff is running slow because you're using emulators. lol. uninstall unity and install openbox or lxde
[17:44] <guest_zehexx> how to clean our history of file that we used in all program in ubuntu
[17:44] <bazhang> Ilhami, this is ubuntu support only. NOT chit chat
[17:44] <guest_zehexx> ?
[17:44] <changeover> Ilhami, crunchbang. puppy linux or a new computer
[17:44] <bin_bash> error404_, you can get xfce from synaptic. not xubuntu
[17:45] <error404_> ok thank you bin bash you have been awesome informative
[17:45] <Pici> bin_bash, error404_: you can install any/all of the packages that are included in xubuntu from apt.
[17:45] <Pegaso_R> sere: that bug talks about connecting to a usb2 port, but I'm always connectin to usb3 port (i just use usb2 cable)... don't know if that makes the same effect than when they use usb2 port in that bug...
[17:45] <error404_> so by adding crunchbag and removing unity i will have less desktop intreface lagg?
[17:46] <error404_> pici... i agree i went on synaptic and it said i could get the whole desktop environment from there
[17:46] <Ilhami> Unity is really bad.. Whats the alternatives? GNOME?
[17:46] <Pegaso_R> sere: I've been lookin for similar cases on the internet, but I must confess I'm totally lost in this one :-/
[17:46] <error404_> and that i could choose to boot ubuntu or xubuntu at login
[17:46] <bazhang> gnome-shell Ilhami
[17:46] <Pici> error404_: 'boot' wouldn't be the right word there, but yes, at login you can choose what session you'd like to use.
[17:47] <sere> Pegaso_R: it looks like you did your homework.. great report :).. only wish i couldnt help :x
[17:47] <bin_bash> error404_, no. it doesn't work like that. you can install xfce and then choose which you use at login
[17:47] <error404_> your right pici i see my phrasing error
[17:47] <changeover> just use some liveusb and test it out
[17:47] <Ilhami> bazhang I heard about some other alternatives before... hmm.. can you mention them?
[17:47] <w4ve0fl4g> So I'm trying to select all of the plain text configuration files from a folder that DON'T contain a certain configuration line (like authid="username") and copy them into another folder. Do you guys have any tricks for this?
[17:47] <bazhang> !notunity | Ilhami
[17:47] <sere> Pegaso_R: do you think it could be and issue with the kernel? since it did work
[17:47] <Pegaso_R> sere: thanks anyway, at least you tried! :-)
[17:47] <error404_> is crunchbag available in synaptic or do i have to go to a website and unpack tar.gz or something like that
[17:47] <changeover> how do i enable finger resting on an integrated touchpad?
[17:48] <Pegaso_R> sere: duno... but could be
[17:48] <changeover> crunch bang is a whole nother distro
[17:48] <Pici> error404_: crunchbang is another distro, not Ubuntu. We don't support it here.
[17:48] <Ilhami> LOL this bot is really annoying :) thanks for the answer
[17:48] <bekks> w4ve0fl4g: some pipe like grep -ri | awk | xargs cp ...
[17:48] <sere> Pegaso_R: ofcourse anytime :)
[17:48] <Pegaso_R> I'll try a couple more things, and then report as bug if I cannot find anything
[17:48] <kboodu> error404_: Crunchbang is a different Operating System.  You'll need to go to #crunchbang for help
[17:48] <error404_> oh ok pici that is vital info
[17:48] <changeover> Ilhami if you want something fast use puppy linux
[17:49] <Ilhami> whats puppy linux?
[17:49] <kboodu> Ilhami: It is a different linux distribution.
[17:49] <Pici> Not Ubuntu.
[17:49] <Ilhami> Is it fast?
[17:49] <bekks> Ilhami: Ask the puppy linux support - we really dont know :)
[17:50] <Ilhami> do they have a channel?
[17:50] <error404_> thank you, and bin_bash... if i wanted to wipe my system and do a fresh OS reimage i would just get the xubuntu live cd and make a usb boot disk
[17:50] <kboodu> Ilhami: Yes, they do
[17:50] <changeover> for ur system puppy linux would be the fastest
[17:50] <Ilhami> #puppylinux?
[17:50] <kboodu> Ilhami: Try #puppylinux
[17:51] <error404_> im trying to go from ubuntu 12.4 to xubuntu while retaining the information i already have
[17:51] <Ilhami> why dude? Why to xubuntu?
[17:51] <bekks> error404_: You should backup everything then.
[17:51] <changeover> error404 just get the xubuntu shell. nothing will be lost
[17:51] <gordonjcp> error404_: install xubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <jroc0912> Hey there. I was wondering if anybody could possible be of any help to me. I have been using Ubuntu for a while and absolutely love it. I by no means ever want to go back to windows, but the time has come when I need to purchace a new laptop. I really want to get the dell xps12 which is a laptop/tablet hybrid. before buying this computer I would like to know if I can install Ubuntu on it and still get complete fuctionality out of it
[17:52] <error404_> because ubuntu is running slowly in environment and i read and hear that xubuntu is a much lighter gui interfacew
[17:52] <jroc0912> it can be used in tablet mode as well as laptop mode
[17:52] <error404_> most of what i use my system for is playing games and practicing CLI from the linux bible or from "The Command Line"
[17:52] <changeover> error404 how much ram do u have?
[17:53] <Ilhami> changeover why did you assume I have a bad slow computer? :D
[17:53] <Pici> error404_: xubuntu is lighter, but you don't need to reinstall to try it.
[17:53] <guest_zehexx> how to backup our current ubuntu that is good state,?and can we give choice in grub menu to recover the backup?
[17:53] <changeover> if u can't handle ubuntu and ur asking questions about xubuntu and puppy
[17:53] <error404_> half gig of ram 20 gig harddrive dell c400
[17:54] <error404_> its a crappy old laptop
[17:54] <Ilhami> changeover I am just a curious man :)
[17:54] <error404_> thats why its just for video games and CLI practice
[17:54] <SteveBell> bin_bash: ok that's noted :P
[17:54] <Ilhami> I want to learn about the differences.. I can run Ubuntu and I had it for a period
[17:54] <bazhang> !ot | Ilhami
[17:54] <vabre> hi why ubuntu 10.04 doesn't fill all the screen?
[17:54] <Ilhami> change your resolution settings
[17:54] <kboodu> error404_: That's not a lot of Ram to run a full version of Ubuntu/Unity.  Lighter-weight distros will be a better alternative.
[17:54] <SteveBell> bin_bash: cana I extend that command so that I don't get asked for every single file to confirm it's deletion
[17:55] <kboodu> SteveBell: The rm -rf (force) will do that.
[17:55] <SteveBell> merci kboodu
[17:55] <kboodu> SteveBell: Just remember it won't ask for anything...it will just DO IT.
[17:55] <error404_> i understand this kboodu thats why i wanted to see if xubuntu would be easier, and i never asked about puppy. i was considering xubuntu or lubuntu for the faster desktop GUI
[17:55] <vabre> the problem is that the resolution is ok but at the right of screen are a black space
[17:55] <Ilhami> how much code does it take to make a OS like Ubuntu???
[17:55] <kboodu> error404_: You might be better off asking in those channels.
[17:56] <sere> Pegaso_R: something to maybe look at " Is it reusing the suspend/resume code of xhci.c? "
[17:56] <bazhang> Ilhami, this is not the right place to ask that
[17:56] <changeover> then they should be perfect for u. i use lubuntu with unity shell
[17:56] <LjL> Ilhami: that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:56] <bekks> Ilhami: Millions of lines.
[17:56] <gordonjcp> error404_: what's the spec of the machine you're running it on?
[17:56] <Ilhami> bazhang it's ubuntu related?
[17:56] <SteveBell> kboodu: using rm -rf folderPath I get cannot remove, permission denied
[17:56] <Ilhami> I thought you could ask anything ubuntu-related
[17:56] <bazhang> Ilhami, not tech support, no its not
[17:57] <Ilhami> is there a channel for Ubuntu-dev?
[17:57] <bazhang> Ilhami, this is tech support only, as I have said many times now
[17:57] <kboodu> SteveBell: That's because someone other than "you" (whatever account you're running the "rm" as) owns a file(s).
[17:57] <changeover> error404 lucid puppy is ubuntu based
[17:57] <error404_> gordonjcp running half gig of ram 20 gig harddrive... scroll up dude
[17:57] <kboodu> SteveBell: You can solve this with "sudo rm -rf /full/path" but be aware that this will delete everything with no questions.  VERY DANGEROUS.
[17:58] <changeover> how do i enable finger resting on an integrated touchpad?
[17:58] <kboodu> changeover: Do you mean you want to disable the touchpad?
[17:58] <Ilhami> Do you think Ubuntu supports that? :)
[17:59] <error404_> so all i really needed to know before i got all this excess info is .... if i install the xubuntu desktop from synaptic can i still access all my docs pics .zip files?
[17:59] <changeover> im one of those click with the index and move pointer with middle finger type users. when i rest my index on the touch pad i cant move the pointer with the middle finger
[17:59] <changeover> error404 yes yes and yes
[17:59] <bin_bash> error404_, it's not called the xubuntu desktop. it's called xfce.
[18:00] <error404_> thank you, and while keeping these accessable, i will be accessing them from a lighter less resource consuming system?
[18:00] <bin_bash> error404_, no.
[18:00] <bin_bash> error404_, you're not understanding
[18:00] <bin_bash> error404_, the only difference is that XFCE is a slightly smaller and more "lightweight" DE
[18:00] <bin_bash> that's it
[18:00] <changeover> kboodu. its a new system with an intergrated touchpad/button
[18:01] <bin_bash> changeover, is it a clickpad
[18:01] <changeover> error404 got to distrowatch and do research
[18:01] <changeover> bin_bash yes its an all in one. so the button is integrated with the touchpad.
[18:01] <Daniel80> Portuguese or English?
[18:01] <error404_> so i would be better off backing up my shit and making a new boot disk of a different OS
[18:02] <gordonjcp> error404_: to be honest there's not really much difference in performance between Unity and XFCE
[18:02] <SonikkuAmerica> bin_bash: I think he means xubuntu-desktop, as in the pointer package
[18:02] <bekks> distrowatch is a cool site showing how many bots clicked something. And its offtopic. :)
[18:02] <gordonjcp> error404_: especially not once you've got masses of RAM, like maybe 1GB or so
[18:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !clear | Daniel80
[18:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | Daniel80
[18:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !en | Daniel80
[18:02] <error404_> i have shit for ram gordon... shit for ram
[18:02] <error404_> thats why im trying to find a solution
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf | error404_
[18:03] <changeover> come on error404 im actually trying to get tech support
[18:03] <changeover> we've already told u
[18:03] <error404_> i understand, i will hit up distro watch
[18:03] <TriJetScud> oops, wrong channel
[18:03] <bin_bash> changeover, you should probably learn how to use that properly. you can change the settings using the config files
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> error404_: Have you heard of swap space?
[18:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !swap
[18:03] <Ilhami> Watch your mouth error404
[18:03] <bin_bash> error404_, you should probably switch to s more lightweight distro like crunchbang
[18:04] <error404_> ilhami..... they have a bot for that. shit your pie hole
[18:04] <gordonjcp> error404_: how much RAM have you got?
[18:04] <bradley__> what are the best programs for sending/receiving email on a ubuntu server, ?
[18:04] <error404_> half gig
[18:04] <bin_bash> gordonjcp, he said he has 512mb
[18:04] <gordonjcp> oh that's plenty
[18:04] <gordonjcp> oh well
[18:04] <changeover> yeah i guess. 3 years and me acer had seperate buttons and touchpad. and new system is killing me with me old habbits
[18:04] <Ilhami> get a new computer
[18:04] <bin_bash> gordonjcp, it's not really enough for ubuntu
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> He swore too much.
[18:04] <bazhang> Ilhami, thats enough
[18:04] <Ilhami> 512 mb is really not much these days
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Half a gig can run Lubuntu
[18:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !lubuntu
[18:05] <Ilhami> I have 4 GB and my laptop is 2 years old
[18:05] <SteveBell> bin_bash: kboodu thanks! working now. I can boot as expected again. and all is good now :)
[18:05] <bin_bash> SonikkuAmerica, barely. he's better off with crunchbang
[18:05] <bazhang> !behelpful | Ilhami
[18:05] <changeover> i have a new asus
[18:05] <bin_bash> SteveBell, glad we were able to help
[18:05] <kboodu> SteveBell: Good.  Just be very careful using that command in the future.
[18:05] <kboodu> SteveBell: But glad it's working for you.
[18:05] <bin_bash> changeover, you'll want to read up on synaptics.
[18:05] <SteveBell> will be. also will be more careful when cloning drives...
[18:05] <bin_bash> heh good idea
[18:06] <bradley__> what are the best programs for sending/receiving email on a ubuntu server, ? anyone?
[18:06] <changeover> i got synaptics thing and it just lets me modify gestures
[18:06] <SonikkuAmerica> changeover: Can you !pastebin the output of [ lspci ]?
[18:06] <Ilhami> bradley__ did you try google? :D
[18:06] <bin_bash> changeover, you can do it in the config
[18:06] <kboodu> !best | bradley__
[18:06] <bazhang> !google | Ilhami
[18:06] <Ilhami> !google
[18:06] <bazhang> Ilhami, last warning
[18:06] <Ilhami> bazhang ok... other channels always say google it first...
[18:06] <changeover> config?
[18:06] <kboodu> bradley__: What are you trying to do to define "best?"
[18:07] <Ilhami> your channel is weird... the opposite of all others
[18:07] <Ilhami> you have to get used to the rules
[18:07] <mong> Ilhami: or read them first
[18:07] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Ilhami: That's because it's dedicated to support, as per
[18:07] <Zippister54> Hello - does Ubuntu recognise my SSD and apply TRIM? Or do I have to edit that in my fstab?
[18:07] <ghoti> When I run `ifconfig eth1 hw ether 11:22:33:44:55:66` I get an error, "SIOCSIFHWADDR: Operation not permitted".  But I see reports on forums that other people can do this.  What am I missing?
[18:08] <SonikkuAmerica> ghoti: Did you run it with sudo?
[18:08] <phaidros> anyone familiar with gobi 2000 umts card? I have troubles getting sim card failures, tho 2 boxes with 2 (new!) sim cards .. the probabilty is very small that those sim cards are both broken
[18:08] <phaidros> any ideas what else could be wrong with umts card stuff?
[18:09] <changeover> SonikkuAmerica Lspci tv or t?
[18:09] <guest_zehexx> what is end version of ubuntu for this time?
[18:10] <tacomaster> guest_zehexx: 13.04 is that what your talking about?
[18:11] <bgardner> Zippister54: Ubuntu recognizes SSD drives, but you implement TRIM yourself.  See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[18:12] <jgalt> I'm looking for a way to use an mpeg stream as my video out any ideas?
[18:12] <changeover> SonikkuAmerica        http://pastebin.com/RyPJJL4L
[18:16] <treehau55> any assistance figuring out what the heck a password for openssh user is
[18:16] <changeover> SonikkuAmerica        http://pastebin.com/RyPJJL4L
[18:17] <th0r> treehau55: you want us to hack an ssh account for you?
[18:18] <amazon-experimen>  hi
[18:18] <amazon-experimen> Is there anyone that know how to restart a DHCP in Fog??
[18:19] <bekks> amazon-experimen: Whats "Fog"?
[18:19] <amazon-experimen> imaging server
[18:19] <aminosamigos> i am runing a ubuntu 13.04 and i can't run a py script because it's unable to import socks (imort error no module named socks ) how to solve this ?
[18:19] <jgalt> treehau55:  where's the box you need to access in relationship to you?
[18:20] <energizer> My Raring freezes sometimes (daily) with no obvious pattern. I'm not sure how to prevent it. (Mouse moves, everything else stops. Ctrl-Alt-F2 works.)
[18:20] <syntroPi> how would i play a stream (mp3) with rhythmbox? vlc plays it fine but not rhythmbox???
[18:20] <Zippister54> bgardner: Should I enable NOOP/Deadline? Deadline looks to be running on my system currently? Should I swap to NOOP?
[18:21] <Pici> aminosamigos: Have you installed the python-socksipy package?
[18:21] <syntroPi> is there any black magic required to play http streams with rhythmbox?
[18:21] <amazon-experimen> anyone knows about Fog??
[18:21] <olskolirc> how do I start the vmware view server in ubuntu 12.10 please?
[18:22] <Pici> amazon-experimen: The folks in #FOGimaging or on fogproject.org
[18:22] <bgardner> Zippister54: No reason that I am aware of to make any changes to your system.  I have only SSD drives in this machine and all I have done is add a trim call to /etc/rc.local - performance is excellent.
[18:22] <changeover> how do i enable finger resting on an integrated touchpad?
[18:23] <Daniel80> Well im back. I tried "#ubuntu-br" but lookslike theres no one alive there... :(
[18:24] <Zippister54> bgardner: okay, thanks! 13.04 seems to work nicely with SSDs. Apart from enabling TRIm via fstab or cron it works well.
[18:24] <Zippister54> *TRIM
[18:24] <Physmart> Greetings.
[18:25] <treehau55> can anyone help me identify why my system keeps locking up randomly, I believe xorg or compiz to be the culprit
[18:25] <tacomaster> syntroPi: What about the new internet radio station under music?
[18:26] <Physmart> I came just say goodby. I found a really good system. I am satisfied with the beatifull openSUSE. Bye Bye Ubuntu.
[18:26] <treehau55> Physmart, awesome, you really didn't need to tell us
[18:26] <Zippister54> Physmart: linux is about choice. Do what ever you want.
[18:27] <bgardner> !best | Physmart
[18:27]  * LargePizza  Picture of my ex-girlfriend naked: http://imagetwist.com/mfryntbe0bsj
[18:28] <Physmart> Absolutely. Guys, I still a linux, ubunt, open source fan. I like ubuntu. Its just about experience.
[18:28] <amazon-experimen> Hello any way to restart the dhcp server on ubuntu??
[18:28] <bazhang> !ot | Physmart
[18:28] <th0r> bgardner: close, that isn't a poll...it is a troll...and too many people are feeding it
[18:28] <syntroPi> tacomaster, i tried adding it with right click on radio "new internetradio"
[18:29] <HoNgOuRu> I have a problem with the sound, it is just a little quicker than normal, so voices and other sounds are not normal, just a little sharper
[18:29] <Zippister54> amazon-experimen: sudo /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart
[18:29] <HoNgOuRu> any possible solution to this ?
[18:29] <tacomaster> syntroPi: what "station" are you trying to add and i will see if i can help you.
[18:29] <syntroPi> tacomaster, under music my rhythmbox has no internet radio station
[18:30] <bgardner> amazon-experimen: sudo service dhcp3-server restart
[18:30] <syntroPi> tacomaster, ist "http://stream.uzic.ch:9010/"
[18:30] <HoNgOuRu> how do I slow down the speed of sound ?
[18:30] <tacomaster> syntroPi: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[18:30] <bgardner> th0r: Roger, thanks.
[18:30] <HoNgOuRu> ? how can I slow down the sound speed ?
[18:30] <James_Epp> I have used the guide here (http://goo.gl/1NiS8) to mount samba shares. It mounts perfectly, but how can I make it so that these folders can be manipulated by another user all the time (persist through reboots and such)
[18:31] <syntroPi> tacomaster, 13.04 x64 up to date and it always sais its interrupted when i try to play the stream, although vlc or mplayer has no problem with it
[18:31] <HoNgOuRu> maybe kernel related, or alsa... music plays some ms faster
[18:31] <seronis> i have chrome-beta installed and the google entry added to sources.list so that it will auto update.  yesterdays update mentions it cant install because of  'unauthenticated dependancies'.  how do i see what those are?
[18:31] <syntroPi> tacomaster, maybe its because mp3 is a restricted format or such?
[18:33] <tacomaster> syntroPi: i just went to the website and viewed the html and css. Then added the radio station url rather than the main site url and it worked for me?
[18:34] <tacomaster> syntroPi:  the url or the website for 56K is http://www.uzic.ch/tek24.m3u
[18:34] <HoNgOuRu> correction, only happens with chrome
[18:35] <syntroPi> tacomaster, well the stream url "http://stream.uzic.ch:9010/" is from their website 128k mp3 http stream right from the m3u file and that url plays in other players without problems, jsut not rhythmbox...?  btw all other mp3 streams wouldnt play either with rhythmbox... maybe it needs some black magic plugin for http and mp3?
[18:36] <aminosamigos> if i install python-socksipy that will solve it ?
[18:36] <aminosamigos> Pici,  thnx :) ill try :D
[18:37] <tacomaster> syntroPi: hmmm ok let me look in to that one second
[18:37] <gabkdlly> I found that I can use Thunderbird to read my Facebook feed, but does not let me log in, sending me instead to Facebook in Google Chrome. If I press the delete key when viewing a post, nothing happens.
[18:38] <guest_zehexx> thx
[18:38] <guest_zehexx> in grub menu can we give choice and access "bootable cd image?"
[18:38] <syntroPi> tacomaster, thx
[18:39] <Ilhami> how much space does ubuntu take on an USB?
[18:40] <bgardner> seronis: You should probably direct that question to #chrome-support
[18:40] <Ilhami> I have a 2 GB USB
[18:40] <gabkdlly> Ilhami: 2 GB will work fine.
[18:40] <Ilhami> Really? :D
[18:40] <Ilhami> neat
[18:40] <Sentro> Where i can say my problem? :(
[18:40] <Sentro> here or on another channel?
[18:41] <Greygan> here
[18:41] <Ilhami> I just saw puppylinux.. It looks really ugly with that puppy
[18:41] <gabkdlly> Ilhami: It depends on how big your "persistence" file is, but you don't have to use one.
[18:41] <tacomaster> syntroPi: ok i have figured out what is wrong. There is a bug filed on it already. So pretty much you can see if it has been fixed in a version past what ubuntu has in the repo's.  You can read about it here. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/227635
[18:41] <Ilhami> I dont like dogs... isnt there something called cattylinux with cats instead? haha
[18:41] <tacomaster> syntroPi: sorry i could not be of more help than that :D, but hope that helps
[18:41] <Sentro> Hi, i have problem with encryption of HDD in install Ubuntu 13.04 32bit ... iam 100% sure that i am getting right password (numbers+ letters). But system wont accept password (trying Kubuntu install too)
[18:42] <Sentro> wont accept password after finished install and first login ...
[18:42] <boern> guys.. i use ubuntu 13.04 as my default OS.. i have a windows 8 virtual machine and every time i do full screen, the resultion is not fullscreen.. there are some black bars.. do you how i can change that?
[18:43] <gabkdlly> Sentro: Are you 100% sure that you are using the same keyboard layout both times ?
[18:43] <SteveBell> what options do I have to check if an external ext2 file format drive is damaged using ubuntu?
[18:43] <Sentro> gabkdlly:  iam not BFU, i tried with CAPS and with NUM, now iam trying clean install and password with "letters" only ... so we will see in a moment.
[18:45] <tacomaster> syntroPi: you get both of my messages?
[18:45] <bgardner> SteveBell: Umount it and run e2fsck on it.
[18:45] <syntroPi> tacomaster, ooh thanks very much for that info i will look into that https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/227635
[18:46] <tacomaster> syntroPi: ok because it is not a fix, that link only shows that the bug has been filed but not fixed yet
[18:46] <Sentro> gabkdlly: where i can find layout? there isnt any "check" table where i can try my layout ... but i think that in DECRYPTION is US layout?
[18:46] <Sentro> (in install)
[18:47] <khalid_matroky> hiiiii
[18:47] <tacomaster> khalid_matroky: hello :D
[18:48] <saleem> is there any way to disable/remove google custom search from browsers on ubuntu??
[18:49] <Sentro>  Hi, i have problem with encryption of HDD in install Ubuntu 13.04 32bit ... iam 100% sure that i am getting right password (numbers+ letters). But system wont accept password (trying Kubuntu install too)
[18:49] <gabkdlly> Sentro: Oh, are you encrypting your whole hard disk ?  I don't have any experience with that. But if you have multiple layouts on your system, there should be an option at the top right hand corner of your screen.
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> saleem  i never had it so never had to remove it
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> saleem  what browser?
[18:50] <saleem> MonkeyDust, all browsers ,opera, firefox , chromium they all come by default with google cse
[18:50] <Sentro> gabkdlly: hmm, there will be mistake for sure! :-)
[18:50] <Sentro> gabkdlly: Yes, iam encrypting whole disk.
[18:51] <anonymaza> hiii
[18:51] <BluesKaj> saleem, click the small icon in FF search and choose adiifferent search engine , duck duck-go is a goodone , you can find them in FF addons
[18:52] <gabkdlly> Sentro: correction, the little keyboard icon should be up there, even if you are using only one layout on this system, I just checked that on my machine.
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> saleem  odd, I never had it
[18:53] <saleem> MonkeyDust, i have always seen it on ubuntu and is kind of annoying
[18:53] <Sentro> gabkdlly: yes, is there .... man with password: "tested" is normal function, so there will be mistake in layouts ... (i think) that one layout is used in install ... and another in checking password after install when i want run system
[18:53] <tking> how can i create an image of my ubuntu? with all files, settings, programs just in case i want to restore if anything gets broken or i want use same configuration in another system?
[18:56] <Sentro> tking: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[18:56] <zykotick9> tking: huge waste of space IMO.  but you might want to check out the clonezilla livecd for HD imageing.
[18:57] <gabkdlly> Sentro: Yeah, it has happened to me before, but that may have been when I was still using Gentoo Linux.
[18:57] <Sentro> gabkdlly:  What Distr. you have now?
[18:58] <gabkdlly> Sentro: ubuntu 12.04 on my main machine, 13.04 on my tablet.
[18:58] <Sentro> gabkdlly: nice, btw iam now making new clean install on notebook, to try new install with correct layout
[18:58] <saleem> MonkeyDust, you can see in this screenie what i mean about thise google cse
[18:58] <saleem> http://tinypic.com/r/6sc9rb/5
[18:59] <heikoo> is there software available in ubuntu for copying music to an ipod touch and especially for creating/modifying playlists?
[18:59] <tking> zykotick9, why is it waste of space?
[18:59] <Sentro> gabkdlly: i have there two keyboards .... and if i click on Czech (want to have ubuntu in czech) one keyboard dissapeared and isnt there o.O
[19:00] <Sentro> heikoo:  Clemente
[19:00] <tking> zykotick9, you know i easily break my ubuntu and i takes days to get it back to how i need it after i do a reinstall
[19:00] <zykotick9> tking: that should be obvious...  good luck.  (drive imagine is more a windows thing ususally...)
[19:02] <[OS]Cazazo> hi everybody...
[19:02] <[OS]Cazazo> i need some help with my system here...
[19:02] <[OS]Cazazo> I have installed KDE for a test and see if I could use it or not... and  I could not
[19:03] <[OS]Cazazo> I did sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[19:03] <[OS]Cazazo> but it did messed with my programs...
[19:03] <[OS]Cazazo> font and gui
[19:03] <heikoo> Sentro: already tried clementine without success. it shows "Double click to open". when I do that, it shows "updating 0%" for a while, and then it shows "0 songs" (the ipod is almost full). I don't see any way to edit playlists anywhere.
[19:04] <Sentro> heikoo: what version of clemente? (my is working)
[19:04] <[OS]Cazazo> pidgin, chrome, kvirc ... so on...
[19:04] <zykotick9> re: [OS]Cazazo does "apt-get autoremove" accept package names?  i wouldn't think it did?
[19:04] <Sentro> [OS]Cazazo: "kubuntu-desktop" isnt all :)
[19:04] <heikoo> Sentro: Version 1.1.1
[19:04] <[OS]Cazazo> zykotick9: I didi
[19:04] <Sentro> [OS]Cazazo: i have some manual, wait a sec ... (solving this some time ago)
[19:04] <[OS]Cazazo> zykotick9: but still having same thing
[19:04] <[OS]Cazazo> Sentro: ok
[19:04] <Sentro> BTW you try it on Ubuntu ? (what version) ?
[19:05] <[OS]Cazazo> ubuntu 12.10 32bits
[19:05] <[OS]Cazazo> gnome classic
[19:05] <SteveBell> bgardner: ok e2fsck says SuperBlock damaged. what does that mean? re-format or might there be physical damage to that drive
[19:06] <[OS]Cazazo> Sentro: I have seen something about the .font.config to rename or delete it... it didn't help me!!! :(
[19:06] <bgardner> SteveBell: Can you paste.ubuntu.com the entire output from e2fsck?
[19:06] <Sentro> [OS]Cazazo: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[19:07] <SteveBell> system is german :S
[19:07] <SteveBell> can I switch system language for the moment?
[19:07] <Muelli> SteveBell: export LC_ALL=C
[19:07] <Muelli> always recommended before pasting stuff from the command line
[19:09] <[OS]Cazazo> Sentro: is that right??? http://pastebin.com/r4LXujHS
[19:10] <Sentro> gabkdlly: maybe i solved a problem, now i get keyboard on my monitor with ONBOARD, and i am getting new install
[19:10] <Sentro> [OS]Cazazo: yes
[19:10] <[OS]Cazazo> Sentro: ok
[19:11] <[OS]Cazazo> oh shoots... is removing even gimp...
[19:11] <[OS]Cazazo> alien arena...
[19:11] <[OS]Cazazo> lol
[19:12] <[OS]Cazazo> oh gee...
[19:12] <[OS]Cazazo> vlc
[19:12] <SteveBell> bgardner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5762406/
[19:13] <sudoibn> why i get system error when connect usb bluethoos
[19:13] <bgardner> SteveBell: Don't panic yet, you needed to specify the partition, not the whole drive.  So like /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2.
[19:13] <studious> Hello #ubuntu
[19:14] <studious> anyone here try running ubuntu on Windows Azure platform?
[19:17] <diskless101> Hiall
[19:18] <diskless101> wtf?!!!
[19:18] <sere> hi
[19:18] <diskless101> wuttur?
[19:18] <diskless101> Umm..
[19:18] <Pici>  /lld10
[19:19] <Pici> diskless101: Can we help you with something?
[19:19] <diskless101> Wuttupp?
[19:19] <diskless101> yes
[19:19] <goddard> diskless101: lets hear it
[19:19] <goddard> :D
[19:19] <diskless101> I need to
[19:19] <diskless101> know how
[19:19] <diskless101> to
[19:19] <diskless101> transfer files
[19:20] <bazhang> !enter | diskless101
[19:20] <diskless101>  from
[19:20] <diskless101>  windows7
[19:20] <diskless101> to
[19:20] <bazhang> diskless101, stop that
[19:20] <diskless101>  my new
[19:20] <DJones> diskless101: One line please
[19:20] <diskless101> Xubuntu
[19:21] <Guest80476> #alid
[19:21] <nyRednek> ok, is there a simple way to set a virtual mail server to forward everything to one real email address on a system and allow imap access to that one account?
[19:21] <goddard> diskless101: is it on the same system?
[19:21] <diskless101> imap?
[19:21] <genii> diskless101: If you put the files on a USB stick that would be the simplest way and no special software, etc required.
[19:22] <diskless101> Oh.
[19:22] <diskless101> yes
[19:22] <diskless101> I can tranfer to dvd
[19:22] <goddard> a dvd would work but i would think if it is a desktop you would just pop the old drive into the new system
[19:23] <diskless101> I have ren an paper ready.
[19:23] <diskless101> please,
[19:23] <diskless101> one helper at a time
[19:24] <diskless101> don't confuse me.
[19:24] <bazhang> diskless101, stop with the enter key
[19:24] <diskless101> so I do dvd.
[19:24] <diskless101> then what?
[19:24] <[OS]Cazazo> Sentro: did fix the theme on the windows... but not the font at the browsers....
[19:24] <sere> unbind enter
[19:25] <[OS]Cazazo> it remover many programs I had installed...
[19:25] <diskless101> I'm interested in
[19:25] <diskless101> how to
[19:25] <[OS]Cazazo> removed*
[19:25] <diskless101> transfer
[19:25] <Pici> diskless101: Stop pressing enter between every 2 words. It makes it very difficult to read your questions.
[19:25] <diskless101> micrsoft files
[19:25] <diskless101> to
[19:25] <[OS]Cazazo> any idea how could I solve the font thing???
[19:26] <SteveBell> bgardner: hehe ok. command is running now. how long should that take for a 2TB drive? it'S still at Pass1. first info was: drive contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[19:27] <bgardner> SteveBell: Depends more on how full the drive is.  For ext2, it could be a long time, depending on a lot of factors.
[19:27] <SteveBell> well aroudn 50gb are free...
[19:28] <bgardner> SteveBell: That will probably take a while.  Just let it work and check back in an hour.
[19:29] <SteveBell> bgardner: ok. hope I don't trip on any more hhd wires until then :S thanks a lot for your help
[19:29] <[OS]Cazazo> Can anyone help me to fix the fonts on the browsers after removing KDE all the font's are messed up
[19:29] <bgardner> SteveBell: Come back when it finishes if you still have questions.
[19:29] <SteveBell> will do
[19:29] <[OS]Cazazo> actually all over the system...
[19:29] <[OS]Cazazo> even in KVirc has changed the font
[19:30] <[OS]Cazazo> Any Ideas?
[19:30] <[OS]Cazazo> what i did so far was removing kde...
[19:31] <[OS]Cazazo> sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[19:31] <noob_> hi all, need a bit of advice. i've just installed 13.04, and i don't like the interface (unity). i'm a fan of the old gnome interface. however, a little googling has shown a few different things like gnome 3.8, classic gnome, gnome shell, and i can't find any article that explains what each one is. i like the one where i have the taskbar at the bottom, and the main menu on top (the one with menus for applications, system settings, etc
[19:31] <[OS]Cazazo> and folowed this:
[19:31] <noob_> is that classic gnome?
[19:31] <[OS]Cazazo> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[19:31] <[OS]Cazazo> yes
[19:31] <[OS]Cazazo> ubuntu 12.10 32bits
[19:32] <noob_> so in order to get that, i need to install gnome-session-fallback?
[19:32] <[OS]Cazazo> yes... the fallback is the gnome classic
[19:32] <DJones> !notunity | noob_
[19:33] <noob_> and gnome-shell is the new gnome 3.8?
[19:34] <[OS]Cazazo> guys can any one help me to get my fonts and browsers to default configuration???
[19:34] <[OS]Cazazo> was before the terrible kde????
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: Not in 13.04; try adding the GNOME 3 PPA: [ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 ]
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa
[19:36] <noob_> SonikkuAmerica: okay, thanks. and if i understand, gnome 3.8 also has a "classic mode", which is much like what gnome-session-fallback would look like?
[19:37] <noob_> if so, is gnome 3.8's classic mode recommended over gnome-session-fallback?
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: Yes; however, to use it, you need to install gnome-shell-extensions. Also, gnome-session-fallback doesn't exist in 3.8
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> [OS]Cazazo: Can you clarify?
[19:38] <syntroPi> does someone know which program can stream to an upnp sink in the network (smartphone on amp) so that i can feed it over wlan with my linux box?
[19:38] <noob_> SonikkuAmerica: so the best thing for me would be to add gnome 3's ppa, and install gnome-shell-extensions ?
[19:38] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: And gnome-shell, of course
[19:38] <citric> I installed "terminology" a terminal, but i changed a setting that makes it not work so I tried removing it (apt-get remove --purge terminology) and tried re-installing to get it to its default settings but it doesn't work, any suggestions?
[19:38] <noob_> SonikkuAmerica: wouldn't that automatically be installed due to dependencies?
[19:39] <sere> Question : is it possible to change / toggle between languages for instance.. i use fluxbox and want to switch between english, korean, mandarian.. not even sure where to begin to search on this or what would switch it
[19:39] <bazhang> !ibus | sere
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: It may or may not; I use Ubuntu GNOME (see http://ubuntugnome.org), which has gnome-shell by default.
[19:39] <[OS]Cazazo> I have installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu 12.10 32 bits with gnome classic. After unintall that thing... it did messed up with my fonts all over the system
[19:39] <sere> bazhang: thanks :)
[19:40] <noob_> SonikkuAmerica: okay, thanks a lot for your tips!
[19:40] <[OS]Cazazo> as well as my browser
[19:40] <genii> !info terminology
[19:40] <genii> Hm.
[19:41] <[OS]Cazazo> I have followed a few instructions so far... sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[19:41] <citric> genii, how can I search to see if there is files still on my system for it?
[19:41] <noob_> SonikkuAmerica: one last question though - what is ubuntu-gnome-desktop, and do i need it as well?
[19:41] <[OS]Cazazo> this was suggested here in the forums http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[19:41] <[OS]Cazazo> and i did changed the ~/.fonts.config
[19:41] <[OS]Cazazo> or something like it
[19:42] <genii> citric: Well, I was going to suggest looking up the package on packages.ubuntu.com and then seeing the listing of files it installs. But it seems the package came from another place
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: If you want to switch to Ubuntu GNOME from Ubuntu (with Unity), you need to install that and the ubuntu-gnome-default-settings package, and remove ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-settings,
[19:42] <SonikkuAmerica> *.
[19:42] <noob_> SonikkuAmerica: agh. okay, thanks you once again
[19:43] <citric> genii, any way I can find where it's installed?
[19:43] <citric> ls
[19:43] <[OS]Cazazo> lol... man.. I can't get this thing to work
[19:43] <[OS]Cazazo> every one that ask me what happened disconnects lol
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> [OS]Cazazo  try starting all over, from the beginning, instead of trying to repair
[19:44] <genii> citric: What you can do, is make a directory like: terminology   then cd there, and do: apt-get download terminology     then do: ar -x  <filename-there>      then mkdir data     then tar -xvzf -C data     ... then look in that directory to see what it woulod put on your system
[19:44] <[OS]Cazazo> MonkeyDust: nvm...
[19:45] <[OS]Cazazo> thanks guys...
[19:45] <genii> citric: There may be some dot-file directory in your home directory like .terminology    or so that it made but can't remove, even with purge
[19:47] <dwatkins> Is the 'ip' command more low level than ifconfig? I was able to bring up my eth0 Atheros interface in 12.04 with 'ip link eth0 up' but it failed to come up at boot or with network-manager or ifconfig.
[19:49] <dwatkins> sorry, 'ip link set eth0 up' was the command
[19:49] <ebuneccar> Guten abend die experten wer kann mir helfen ddas design von ubuntu 13.04 auf ubuntu 12.04 zu insatllieren
[19:49] <DJones> !de | ebuneccar
[19:50] <bazhang> dwatkins, does sudo ifup nic work
[19:50] <dwatkins> will try, bazhang, I assume you mean after 'ip link set eth0 down' or a reboot
[19:52] <Kolorowa> czzz
[19:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Kolorowa
[19:52] <bazhang> !pl | Kolorowa
[19:53] <Kolorowa> well, anyone
[19:55] <dwatkins> bazhang: RTNETLINK answers: file exists    failed to bring up eth0
[19:55]  * dwatkins looks this up
[19:59] <dwatkins> I had to set the route manually, but I don't have multiple entries for the gateway in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:00] <dwatkins> did something here change between 11.10 and 12.04? this problem of eth0 not coming up at boot time started after upgrading.
[20:01] <Faraz> Hi, guys. I bought a new laptop today which has a Nvidia geforce 740m. but intel HD 4000 is more than enough for me, How can I completely disable my gpu?!
[20:02] <lonewulf85> Hello all I have a Compaq CQ50-110US with an atheros card I believe it is the AR5009 I had to replace the HDD and re-install Ubuntu 12.04. I need help with the ARxxxx drivers.
[20:02] <lonewulf85> would madwifi work for this, I had it working grate whith the other HDD but I forgot how I did it.
[20:06] <lonewulf85> I am wondering if the compat wireless would work better?
[20:07] <anominoususer> test
[20:07] <anominoususer> can anyone see me? :-)
[20:07] <tomjones14> hi
[20:07] <tomjones14> yes
[20:08] <murder> is security.ubuntu.com an alias for archive.ubuntu.com ?
[20:08] <SonikkuAmerica> anominoususer passed the test
[20:08] <anominoususer> woooohoooooo!  is this the actual Ubuntu IRC?  and what are floodbots?  those dont sound good
[20:09] <anominoususer> SonikkuAmerica: what test?
[20:09] <Ari-Yang> ......your test message
 test | <anominoususer> can anyone see me? :-)
[20:09] <anominoususer> oh... lol
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> !test
[20:10] <michagogo> I have Ubuntu installed on an external drive, complete with grub. I've noticed that grub offers me Windows as a boot option.
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> michagogo: And?
[20:11] <michagogo> Would that option actually work? Would it damage anything? And, if I were to use it, would I need to keep the external drive plugged in?
[20:11] <armin> anyone an idea how to disable maximization when moving a window against the top panel?
[20:11] <michagogo> s/?/ once Windows booted?/
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> michagogo: You can give it a shot... and yes, you'd have to keep the thing plugged in... a safer thing to do would be to fix the Windows MBR and get EasyBCD and write in a separate Windows bootloader entry for Ubuntu.
[20:13] <anominoususer> so is this a good place to get help with getting drivers configured?  I just built a new box, and I tried running Ubuntu.  The driver support for the Nvidia GTX 660 Ti seemed kind of lacking.
[20:13] <michagogo> SonikkuAmerica: Hmm? Why?
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> michagogo: Or maybe not... you can try unplugging and see if Windows boots up; it is an external HDD after all...
[20:14] <michagogo> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, with the drive unplugged Windows boots without a problem
[20:14] <sere> anominoususer: did you installed the driver.. nvidia-current ?
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> michagogo: I'd say you're fine then.
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> One sec...
[20:15] <michagogo> I was just wondering what would happen if I chose Windows 7 in grub
[20:15] <michagogo> Specifically, if it would make any changes that wouldn't be fixed by simply shutting down and unplugging, and therefore something to make sure never to do
[20:15] <trism> armin: looking at ccsm, you could try: Grid/Edges/Top Edge and change from Maximize to None
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> michagogo: I would assume GRUB 2 would chainload Windows without a hitch.
[20:16]  * michagogo goes to google chainload
[20:17] <crf> Hi mission-control is using 100% cpu for a while. Should I file a bug report?
[20:19] <BitterGeek> Is there any way to edit sudoers in the same way a crontab is edited by crontab -e?
[20:19] <anominoususer> sere: I am going to reinstall as soon as I download the latest version, then Ill get back on IRC and well take it from there.
[20:19] <Muelli> crf: yeah. maybe pkill -SEGV it so that you can file a bug report easily.
[20:19] <Muelli> BitterGeek: visudo I guess
[20:19] <sere> anominoususer: are you using the drivers from the nvidia site?
[20:20] <anominoususer> I believe I tried using their installer but it failed.  then I used various drivers that came w/ ubuntu.  and those were lacking.
[20:20] <anominoususer> lemme do a fresh install.  Im in windows right now
[20:20] <Tex_Nick> armin:  if you have compiz config settings manager installed ... you can uncheck the GRID option
[20:21] <Tex_Nick> armin:  if not see this ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970815
[20:21] <anominoususer> can I get 64 bit without sacrificing compatibility with drivers?
[20:21] <sere> anominoususer: oh i see.. dunno why it was lacking but the nvidia-current should be fine
[20:22] <sere> brb
[20:22] <armin> Tex_Nick: exactly what i needed - thank you.
[20:22] <Tex_Nick> armin:  welcome :-)
[20:23] <armin> also anyone a clue why hovering on notification popups will make them unreadable and some kind of transparent and even clicking on them doesn't close them?
[20:23] <blawiz> which package contains 'wc'?
[20:23] <treehau55> my entire desktop has frozen for the third time today, can anyone offer assistance debugging why?
[20:24] <onegeek> HI
[20:24] <Pici> blawiz: coreutils
[20:24] <blawiz> hi mon
[20:24] <Deceptor> hi
[20:24] <blawiz> pici thanks!
[20:24] <onegeek> Could somebody help me with a problem
[20:24] <crf> ok, thanks Muelli .
[20:25] <super> how do i setup a PXE server ubuntu 12.10
[20:25] <blawiz> onegeek, can you tell us the problem pls?
[20:25] <Deceptor> onegeek: what problem
[20:25] <Guest62242> name Super
[20:25] <onegeek> When I try to start up GRUB to startup Ubuntu I get only a squezed display in the display over 200px in height
[20:25] <Guest62242> nick super
[20:25] <Guest62242> how do i change my name?
[20:26] <DJones> Guest62242: /nick nickname
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest62242  /nick blah
[20:26] <Guest62242> still didn't change
[20:26] <treehau55> oh I see how it is no one wants to help me :(
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> tree or can help you
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> treehau55  or can help you
[20:26] <treehau55> my entire desktop has frozen for the third time today, can anyone offer assistance debugging why?
[20:26] <anominoususer> Can I use the 64 bit ubuntu without sacrificing driver compatibility?
[20:27] <Deceptor> treehau55: reinstall it ;)
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> treehau55  what were you doing when it happened
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> !details | treehau55
[20:27] <onegeek> treehau55> maybe you need a kernel update http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=traegZveTKo
[20:27] <treehau55> MonkeyDust, either using chrome or writing code in the terminal. using ubuntu 12.04 64bit kernal version 3.2.40, with ati graphics card
[20:27] <onegeek> When I try to start up GRUB to startup Ubuntu I get only a squezed display in the display over 200px in height
[20:28] <treehau55> everything freezes, mouse still works, nothing else, no keyboard, cant alt tab, cant ctrl+alt f1 to get into terminal
[20:28] <onegeek> How do I solve this
[20:28] <Deceptor> onegeek: try to reinstall grub
[20:28] <Deceptor> ?
[20:28] <babyswizz> please is it advisable to install a package from the universe sourse
[20:28] <treehau55> my intial suspicion is it is graphics, either Xorg, compiz, my graphics driver or combination of 3
[20:28] <Deceptor> onegeek: just boot a live cd ;)
[20:29] <onegeek> How do I exactly reinstall GRUB
[20:29] <onegeek> Should I do it in the 'try Ubuntu' with the live CD?
[20:29] <Deceptor> try ubuntu
[20:29] <johnjohn101> treehau55: using a lenovo laptop with a sandy bridge?
[20:30] <treehau55> johnjohn101, no samsung chronos 7 dont think its sandy bridge
[20:30] <Deceptor> onegeek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[20:30] <treehau55> this is the first time these errors have started
[20:30] <ihelpsu> --> hey im installing debian based unbuntu as a duel boot on win7 -- any good guides out tehre
[20:31] <Deceptor> ihelpsu: google got a lot :)
[20:31] <DJones> !install | ihelpsu
[20:31] <maxr__> I'm having a problem
[20:31] <Kruppt> treehau55:First time since what? you upgraded package/s?
[20:32] <blawiz> i think i might have deleted a file from an essential package, how can i reinstall/fix it? (coreutils) apt-get remove coreutils&&apt-get install coreutils gives warnings
[20:32] <maxr__> Everyone once in a while on my old Mac Mini which is running Lubuntu 13.04 I keep getting static on the music that is playing
[20:32] <bgardner> maxr__: What is your problem?
[20:32] <diverdude> Hi. Even though i do ps aux | grep skype and kill skypes PID, and also do killall skype, skype is not killed. What am I doing wrong?
[20:33] <maxr__> When I reboot the computer
[20:33] <maxr__> its fine
[20:33] <johnjohn101> treehau55: this bug may apply to you. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1188774
[20:34] <treehau55> diverdude, skype for linux is pretty terrible, I always have issues, try kill -9 [skype's PID]
[20:34] <maxr__> Is there something wrong with the Audio
[20:34] <maxr__> The speakers work fine
[20:35] <pklages> I have a quad 10Gigabit network port, set static ip's and connected two ports directly.  When I try to ping one from the other, it says Destination Host Unreachable. Anyone know how to set things to allow ping?
[20:35] <maxr__> Can someone please help
[20:35] <johnjohn101> treehau55: you are running a sandybridge Intel® Core™ i5 Processor 2430M.
[20:36] <treehau55> anyone, is compiz necessary? can I uninstall it
[20:36] <mrekko> hi
[20:36] <bgardner> maxr__: Sorry, not ignoring you, just don't know the answer.
[20:36] <ObrienDave> maxr__: someone is TRYING to help you. quit typing and READ your history
[20:36] <maxr__> ok
[20:37] <mrekko> i am running ubuntu 12.04 Minimal in VMware i worked fine with it but it´s stuck in the purple screen and doesn´t start! :(
[20:37] <mrekko> anyone knows what´s happening?
[20:37] <treehau55> johnjohn101, i have an i7
[20:37] <maxr__> bgardner thanks
[20:38] <treehau55> johnjohn101, Intel Core i7-2675QM CPU @2.20Ghz
[20:38] <mrekko> the vmware it´s the version 8.0.0 build-471780
[20:39] <mrekko> i can boot from a snapshot though
[20:39] <johnjohn101> treehau55: that's still sandybridge.   are you running kernel 3.8?
[20:39] <maxr__> Should I report a bug
[20:39] <mrekko> but everytime i try to boot it normally it get´s stuck in the ubuntu purple screen
[20:40] <Tex_Nick> maxr__:  shortly after 12.04 was released the was a bug with pulse audio that caused distortion on VLC, Skype and a few other applications ... i thought they had fixed that bug tghough ... you might see if the following post wil help ...http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad
[20:40] <ihelpsu> Deceptor> ihelpsu: "google got a lot :)" -- but i want the best one, and im not knowlable enough to tell the quality from the crap
[20:41] <ihelpsu> ubottu: i want to install it with this iso program that runs and install cds -- can i do that? i do that with all my cds
[20:44] <maxr__> Thanks
[20:44] <ihelpsu> ubottu: i use http://arainia.com/software/gizmo/ -- can i run and install duel boot from there?
[20:44] <ihelpsu> its actually bot... lol...
[20:44] <treehau55> it happened again, this time while I was searching on google :(
[20:44] <ihelpsu> for anyone, i use http://arainia.com/software/gizmo/ -- can i run and install duel boot from there?
[20:45] <treehau55> it looks like there is 64bit kernal updates though
[20:45] <ihelpsu> because when i restart the computer, wont it disappear
[20:45] <ihelpsu> the cd i mean
[20:46] <treehau55> anyone: is compiz necessariy or can I get rid of it?
[20:46] <gordonjcp> treehau55: you could use a different window manager
[20:46] <ihelpsu> ill rephrase, can you use an iso program like http://arainia.com/software/gizmo/  to run and install cds like you do with other cds?
[20:46] <treehau55> gordonjcp, id really rather ditch unity all together and switch to KDE, its more my style anyway
[20:46] <gordonjcp> ihelpsu: what is that link?
[20:46] <joeytwiddle_> blawiz: aptitude reinstall coreutils
[20:47] <gordonjcp> treehau55: then install kubuntu-desktop
[20:47] <ihelpsu> its an iso program i use
[20:47] <ihelpsu> its old
[20:47] <Ari-Yang> treehau55, I think you can get rid of it
[20:48] <Ari-Yang> or use a DE or WM that doesn't use it?
[20:48] <gordonjcp> ihelpsu: I'm not sure how that's going to help you dual-boot
[20:49] <syntroPi> is there any upnp server which wouldnt crash on a LOT of files? minidlna and rygel just crash on scanning media dirs :-(
[20:49] <joeytwiddle_> i guess ihelpsu wants to use it for installation.  which won't work
[20:49] <ObrienDave> ihelpsu: is that a WINdoze program?
[20:49] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: how many fines?
[20:49] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: *files?
[20:49] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu: maybe ty a method with a USB stick?
[20:49] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, many thousands
[20:50] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: minidlna should be okay
 i guess ihelpsu wants to use it for installation.  which won't work -- but i install every other cd with it, well anyhow, how does the usb method work?
[20:50] <ihelpsu> i have a 2 gb usdb
[20:50] <ixio> ! ot
[20:50] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: have you got many thousands of files *in one directory*?
[20:50] <Breivik> fuck allah kill muslim
[20:50] <ObrienDave> !install | ihelpsu
[20:50] <ihelpsu> ObrienDave: im not sure if it works on all OSs, this is duel boot with win 7
[20:51] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, nope its a file tree to which i am pointing with symlinks from my home directory (which is configured as media source dir)
[20:51] <treehau55> somebody ban Breivik?
[20:51] <treehau55> thank you
[20:51] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: hmm, what happens if you just point it at the files rather than the symlinks?
[20:52] <treehau55> ihelpsu, ugh dual booting sucks, just do yourself a favor and migrate ubuntu over to its own installation and boot grub first, i originally installed ubuntu through windows 8 and im still getting headaches bc of it i think
[20:52] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, its on external usb hdd (ntfs), may that cause any problems with inotify?
[20:52] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: uhm, quite possibly
[20:52] <dhci> I'm trying to boot an external usb cdrom drive (connected through a PCI card expansion, not a port on the motherboard itself.) and I don't really see a boot menu appear to select a boot device. I have seen the menu appear on occasion when a boot error has occured
[20:53] <ihelpsu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStickQuick doesnt explain duel-botting though
[20:53] <gordonjcp> dhci: there's probably a key you need to press at the bios screen
[20:53] <gordonjcp> dhci: try F12
[20:53] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: I've not tried it with NTFS
[20:54] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, i will try to point to them directly and disable inotify
[20:54] <treehau55> ihelpsu, no, no it doesn't, you're right about that
[20:54] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu: all the install methods give you a GUI that will ask if you want to dual boot (yes/no)
[20:54] <dhci> can I add a boot option to grub or is there a command or two to type in manually, to select external usb drive as boot device? (root hd0,0) style
[20:54] <gordonjcp> dhci: that would only work if you had grub on the boot sector of the boot drive already...
[20:54] <ihelpsu> joeytwiddle_: so does it do everything by itself, like sectioning the harddrive, i heard you have to do that
[20:54] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu: just don't delete your windows partition.  the installer will detect the other OS and make a boot for it
[20:55] <ihelpsu> ok sounds simple enough
[20:55] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu: yeah it's 2013 now
[20:55] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, do you know if i can point to more than one audio directory with minidlna.conf?
[20:56] <dhci> gordonjcp: i do have a grub installed on first disk but i'm trying to get an iso image booted so I can install fresh onto a new drive (ssd)
[20:56] <treehau55> whats the sysrsq key
[20:56] <veryhappy> hey guys: 2 questions, first off: does anyone know a "minimize-to-tray addon" that doesn't open thunderbird twice at start? second off: i need help with compiling because i still don't really know how that works. i want to compile a newer version of compiz because this version that i got is very buggy, i mean it.
[20:57] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: I haven't tried it, don't see why not though
[20:57] <ihelpsu> "<treehau55> ihelpsu, ugh dual booting sucks, just do yourself a favor and migrate ubuntu over to its own installation and boot grub first, i originally installed ubuntu through windows 8 and im still getting headaches bc of it i think" -- not sure what a grub is, but the duel booting sounds easier
[20:57] <ihelpsu> and dont know what "its own installation" mean -- this usb way sounds better
[20:58] <treehau55> ihelpsu,  when you install ubuntu under windows, what windows will do is make a virtual drive that contains that installation. This gives you two problems right off the bat: no swap file (you cant hibernate) and you are stuck to that same harddrive, so if you ever want to say, for example, upgrade to an SSD, have fun
[20:58] <treehau55> then there is debugging issues, you'll have to do most of your system recovery through windows
[20:58] <blockworks> hi i tried setting a nonempty password for both my standard user accound and the root account on a 12.04 live cd doing this: sudo -s; passwd; exit; now when i try sudo -s again i i do get a password prompt BUT i can just press enter, it accepts the emtpy password still. i cant imagine what is causing this weird behavior, do you have a clue? i also looked into /etc/shadow and turns out the hash is
[20:59] <blockworks> properly set for the new password which i verified using mkpasswd. interestingly enough in /etc/shadow for my non-root user i dont get a full hash though, just some tiny hash or something without a $n$ inidicator
[21:00] <joeytwiddle_> veryhappy: how far did you get with the compiling?  (Personally i found compiz 0.8 under Debian worked better than the new one in Unity :P )
[21:00] <blockworks> actually this is a hard questoin
[21:01] <veryhappy> last time i tried i didn't get further than looking through the directory and the strange script that i should execute before the compiling...
[21:02] <joeytwiddle_> blockworks: trying to set you passwordon a LiveCD? O_o  Are you using it regularly with persistence?
[21:02] <joeytwiddle_> veryhappy: most C apps go: more ./README.txt ; ./configure && make && make install
[21:02] <Tex_Nick> I used "Gnome Classic" with 12.04 & 12.10, i loved the enviornment ... 13.04 no longer supports it so i'm using "gnome-fallback" now, it's working great for me with one exception ... occasionally when i maximize a window the title bar "close, minimize & maximize" buttons cease to function ... i have to right click on the application tab on the bottom panel and choose unmaximize ... any help there ?
[21:02] <treehau55> i dont have a sysrq key on my keyboard
[21:02] <treehau55> :x
[21:02] <ihelpsu> 1) "you cant hibernat" -- is ok, my compu always on. 2) "upgrade to an SSD" -- i always you install a new OS, when you change drives, 3) "debugging issues, you'll have to do most of your system recovery through windows" -- well i hepe nothing goes wrong cos i know nothing about this.....
[21:03] <anominoususer|2> I am going to attempt to install Ubuntu from my harddrive.  is http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html the easiest way?  I am on the last step, which is installing GRUB, but I am reading the file and it is telling me that it is very dangerous to my MS OS :-)
[21:03] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, do you have any idea to which group i would add the user minidlna so it would have read access to external usb hdd ntfs drives which are automounted from nautilus? i tried adding it to my users group with no effect...?
[21:03] <blockworks> yes exactly joeytwiddle_
[21:03] <treehau55> anominoususer|2, i dont think I would follow any guide from 2007
[21:03] <blockworks> joeytwiddle_: with a casper-rw
[21:03] <anominoususer|2> lol.  I got that from someone who posted it here about 20 min. ago
[21:03] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu: u won't be using that method with a USB stick anyway, don't worry
[21:04] <anominoususer|2> I dont have my USB stick
[21:04] <WeThePeople> hi
[21:04] <ihelpsu> "dont think I would follow any guide from 2007" -- the bot gave that guide, the bot is outdated -- i say we break it
[21:04] <joeytwiddle_> blockworks: sorry never used a LiveCD like that.  maybe you can't do it on a boot CD
[21:04] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, the drive is mounted with "type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)"
[21:05] <ihelpsu> install! | anominoususer|2
[21:05] <ihelpsu> !install | anominoususer|2
[21:06] <ihelpsu> !install | treehau55
[21:06] <treehau55> why are you doing that
[21:06] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: hm, it's possible that it *is* down to NTFS...
[21:06] <ihelpsu> break the bot, its the crap i couldnt tell from quality i was referring to earlier
[21:06] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu: try the homepageof the website.  just bacup your vital files and give it a go
[21:07] <ihelpsu> joeytwiddle_: usb sounds good, the bot is outdated though, someone should do something about it
[21:08] <BitterGeek> Is there any way to edit sudoers in the same way a crontab is edited by crontab -e?
[21:08] <Corey> BitterGeek: visudo
[21:08] <nimbiotics> I need help with the "dar command" I need to backup only a few directories that exist under my home directory (not all of them) in a single backup. I find the manuala bit hard to understand and is driving me nuts. Can someone please point me in the right direction? TIA!
[21:08] <pfhunk> I have some questions about the best way to go about installing ubuntu and windows 7 on a SSD (also have 1TB HDD)
[21:09] <blockworks> Corey: BitterGeek what would be the advantage of that instead of editing the files right away?
[21:09] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, just ask
[21:10] <Corey> blockworks: Syntax checking to make sure you don't leave yourself locked out of sudo.
[21:10] <joeytwiddle_> ihelpsu, anominoususer|2, fwiw i downloaded an Ubuntu iso, and burned it to my USB stick with unetbootin (which is out of date itself) but that worked fine
[21:10] <Corey> nimbiotics: Do you mean tar?
[21:10] <blockworks> i see
[21:11] <nimbiotics> no "dar" http://dar.linux.free.fr/doc/index.html
[21:11] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, hmm well i cant change that since the drive is rather full of data... i think its because the _new_ default ubuntu mount is /media/<username>/<medianame>  to restrict that read options somehow grml
[21:11] <pfhunk> Right, just the best way to do the partitions, in regards to speed and keeping the longevity of the SSD.. The Ubuntu partitioner actually killed my SSD last week, I don't want that to happen again.
[21:11] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: unmount it, and remount it wherever you like...
[21:11] <ihelpsu> joeytwiddle_: why is treehau55 trying to scare us about everything!!................................. its ok
[21:12] <nimbiotics> Corey: no, I meant "dar" http://dar.linux.free.fr/
[21:12] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, if you have doubts using your ssd use the hdd,
[21:12] <joeytwiddle_> he' just warning against what he did, installing on a virtual partition inside windows.  which does suck.  unless you end up deleting ubuntu, in which case it's ideal
[21:13] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, use gparted for the partitioner
[21:13] <pfhunk> well I have a new SSD now, and I want both ubuntu and windows partitions on it. I enjoy the speediness. Does it matter which I install first? Which would be easier?
[21:14] <ltxda> hi all.  Anyone know of a small utility that can be installed on a Ubuntu server to monitor HD space and send out an e-mail if free space = 10GB or if consumption is at 80%, etc?
[21:14] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, doesnt matter wich is installed first
[21:15] <tking_> TKing: hi
[21:15] <WeThePeople> idk how win 7 works but you might need boot repair
[21:15] <WeThePeople> pfhunk^^
[21:15] <Sirisian|Work> So on a scale of harmless to potential issue is it bad to set the root home directory to /var/www ?
[21:16] <joeytwiddle_> yeah i'd install windows first, let ubuntu build the bootloader.  pfhunk
[21:16] <ihelpsu> joeytwiddle_: that sounds like virtualbox, the unbuntu guide should mention these things said on here so it's not lost but last edited "2012-12-10"
[21:16] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, thats how i installed ubuntu with a win8 part.
[21:17] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, it should be configurable in the properties dialogue of that media from nautilus. though when i change it it immediately returns to previous settings  waaa
[21:17] <ihelpsu> and http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/ is not outdated, last updated 6/13
[21:17] <ihelpsu> 2013-06-06
[21:17] <pfhunk> Okay, I can try that, as far as partition sizes and things go, what should I be paying attention to?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> Sirisian|Work: why would you do that?
[21:18] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, look up on how to --bind sys, dev, proc, then chroot to reinstall, update grub
[21:18] <BitterGeek> I have a existing sudoers file in svn, I want to svn export it and overwrite the exiting sudoers. However my recipe script does something to sudoers that sudo doesn't like (syntax errors). What exactly does sudoers -f do? Can I use that to specify a sudoers file in /tmp and have it be saved in /etc/sudoers?
[21:18] <WeThePeople> chroot into ubuntu if you install windows 2nd
[21:19] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: <shrug> I have all my music and video on a SAN, and iSCSI across to another machine with the media server running in a VM
[21:19] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: this is clearly overkill
[21:19] <Sirisian|Work> gordonjcp, oh wait nvm. I don't need to. I didn't notice this software let you supply a directory.
[21:19] <gordonjcp> Sirisian|Work: what are you doing?
[21:20] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, sure that would be overkill i just want to prepare my external usb hdd for party tomorrow :)
[21:20] <pfhunk> WeThePeople I'm pretty new to linux, I'm trying to ease into it and go the simple route
[21:20] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: play.spotify.com ;-)
[21:20] <bertieb> Hello all, does anyone have experience of running mdadm (RAID) on top of lvm?
[21:21] <Sirisian|Work> Was messing around with dreamweaver. Didn't notice the directory option started from root. I thought it was asking for something else.
[21:21] <Sirisian|Work> (in their sftp connection stuff)
[21:21] <gordonjcp> Sirisian|Work: ugh, dreamweaver
[21:21] <Sirisian|Work> I know right.
[21:21] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, well yeah but my linux box is in another room and i want to play music over my smartphone on amp in party room
[21:22] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: Spotify for Android... ;-)
[21:22] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  on new linux system builds ... you might also want to create a separate partition for home
[21:22] <WeThePeople> pfhunk, install ubuntu 2nd then, you are still going to have to update grub
[21:22] <WeThePeople> iirc
[21:22] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, nooo i invested a lot of time in my collection
[21:22] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: oooh
[21:23] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: look into using kernel NTFS support (read-only) instead of FUSE
[21:23] <pfhunk> I thought I read that the ubuntu installer does that WeThePeople
[21:24] <WeThePeople> yeah it does
[21:24] <BluesKaj> syntroPi, get a raspberrypi for the party room
[21:24] <syntroPi> yeah its tomorrow
[21:24] <sere> syntroPi: I like minidlna for streaming.. its lightweight and works will on all platforms
[21:25] <gordonjcp> sere: yeah, but it's crashing loading "many thousands" of files off an NTFS external drive
[21:25] <pfhunk> Tex_Nick, what would a separate partition for home do? bear with me I'm pretty fresh to partitioning and linux in general
[21:26] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: aha, what happens if you add several audio source directories in the config, and split up the collection into groups?
[21:26] <thurstylark> Does anyone know anything about vinagre? I can't get it to accept my password to my server
[21:26] <bertieb> Anyone have experience of running mdadm (RAID) on top of lvm? It's not the usual way of doing things, but is there any reason to especially avoid it?
[21:26] <gordonjcp> bertieb: that seems an odd way round to do it
[21:26] <sere> gordonjcp: oh i see.. thats no good.. i have never tried streaming large amounts with it
[21:27] <taylorg> Sooo what kind of people are here, what do you guys ‪ to do ?
[21:27] <soy_el_pulpo> bertieb: it is backwards....
[21:27] <gordonjcp> sere: I have, but only with ext4 partitions
[21:27] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, you mean like media_dir=A,/dir1   and new line media_dir=A,dir2    and so on?
[21:27] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: yeah
[21:27] <soy_el_pulpo> lvm on top of RAID
[21:28] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  it keeps your application data separate from the system files ... if you decide to upgrade to a new distro in the future, your user files don't have to be reinstalled
[21:28] <bertieb> soy_el_pulpo / gordonjcp: I do have LVM on top of RAID as well, but I would like to join 2TB+1TB into a pv that can be added to the 4x3TB drives already in the md array
[21:29] <bertieb> like I say, not entirely standard use-case :)
[21:30] <pfhunk> Tex_Nick : alright, and as I recall, you can designate differently-purposed partitions in the ubuntu installer. So it'll know where to put stuff
[21:30] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  see the following post ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[21:31] <soy_el_pulpo> bertieb: sure you can! but I will not recommend it... the last part of you lvm, formed by the 2+1 tb disks will have no redundancy...
[21:31] <ihelpsu> what is strange is that the linuxmint chan has less ppl when its top -- http://distrowatch.com/
[21:31] <Corey> z/j #ubuntu
[21:32] <soy_el_pulpo> bertieb: It will be easier to buy one 3tb drive more and extend your raid
[21:32] <soy_el_pulpo> or buy 4 4tb drives and grow it
[21:32] <bertieb> soy_el_pulpo: there is that, but if I do (2+1)pv -> mdadm (raid6) -> LVM it should have all the benefits of being in a RIAD array (albeit with double the probability of a single drive failure)
[21:33] <bertieb> soy_el_pulpo: alas, if money were no issue :P (I already have the dives and it seems a shame to 'waste' them)
[21:37] <soy_el_pulpo> bertieb: raid 6 uses more space for protection. Use them for offline backups or other things rather thatn making the system more complex
[21:37] <soy_el_pulpo> the issue with raid and dispair devices is that rotational speed, seek ms, etc makes a huge diference.
[21:38] <soy_el_pulpo> bertieb: that explains the recommendation of having IDENTICAL disks
[21:38] <usr13> ihelpsu: Just because it gets more hits does not really mean it is really more popular, or used by more pople.
[21:38] <usr13> *people*
[21:39] <ihelpsu> usr13: yea its just hits, need better ranking system
[21:39] <ihelpsu> everyone add good solutions to https://wiki.ubuntu.com so nothing gets lost
[21:39] <ihelpsu> i dont like lost things
[21:39] <usr13> ihelpsu: And distor whatch obviously doesn't rank IRC channels.
[21:39] <ihelpsu> esp if they helpful
[21:39] <ihelpsu> and i don like redunancy
[21:39] <usr13> ihelpsu: It would be nice if everyone would use the linux counter.
[21:40] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  the link i provided above looks like it's more for moving home to a separate partion after linux has been installed ... the following link might be more helpful ... http://www.howtogeek.com/116742/how-to-create-a-separate-home-partition-after-installing-ubuntu/
[21:40] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, well adding several dirs does work but only if those are owned by minidlna user /stupid/
[21:40] <bertieb> soy_el_pulpo: the array is already built, and I wanted something I could not touch for years, so I went for RAID6 over (say) 5 or 10 - particularly if one of the drives does fail, given the size the long rebuild time and potential for UREs I was a bit hesitant to go for RAID5
[21:42] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  might also google for "ubuntu separate home partition" ... sorry, hope i'm not confusing you ;-)
[21:42] <bertieb> soy_el_pulpo: the 4 new drives in there are identical (same model, which is possibly a risk in and of itself), I'd just like to reuse drives I already have :)
[21:43] <pfhunk> Tex_Nick no worries I still need to find a blank DVD before I can get fully started so I'll be able to read up on a lot
[21:43] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  cool ... hey good luck man ;-)
[21:45] <Tex_Nick> pfhunk:  are you aware of "live usb" installs ? ... if you have a usb stick, that's the way to go
[21:46] <pfhunk> Tex_Nick I have ubuntu on a CD already, I need to burn my windows 7
[21:47] <volty> hi, sometimes updating firefox i lose the adobe flash player and (i presume) the flash-plugin-installer's "Firefox is now checking for available plugins ..." seems going forever.  How can I fix this?
[21:48] <Tex_Nick> ahhh ok ... i nolonger use windows ... however i think you can also use a usbstick to install win 7
[21:48] <usr13> volty: Re-install flashplayer.
[21:48] <usr13> volty: I just do it manually
[21:48] <gordonjcp> syntroPi: owned by or readable by?
[21:48] <Tex_Nick> i've gone that route with winXP
[21:48] <volty> usr13: ok, thx, i'll try with rpm one
[21:49] <usr13> volty: tgz one
[21:49] <pfhunk> I'll have to check it out
[21:49] <volty> usr13: ok :)
[21:50] <usr13> 11.2 is latest version
[21:50] <usr13> volty: Actually, you may already have it.
[21:51] <volty> usr13: so I have just to (re)copy it? from where to where?
[21:51] <usr13>  tar xvf flash-player-plugin.tar.gz ;
[21:52] <volty> yeah, i know what you mean: probably i have got it in the past // going to check, thanks a lot
[21:52] <nb-ben> gs123
[21:52] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, owned works ofc but also i added the user minidlna to my users group so when i give it g+rx it can read it even if my user owns it (insterad of minidlna)
[21:52] <ihelpsu> this nice -- > http://www.tutonics.com/p/ubuntu.html
[21:54] <tonyt> is there a way to make a usb flash drive bootable with a ubuntu iso image on it ?
[21:54] <syntroPi> gordonjcp, seems i just need to get nautllus to fuse mount it with g+rx and it should work. i know i can do mounts manually but i want to have it with nautilus gui for quick access with other drives
[21:54] <usr13> volty: Actually, it's  tar xvf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz  #And then just move libflashplayer.so to the plugins directory
[21:55] <platzhirsch> If I have a directory /a/b/c, is there a way to change the permission of c with chmod, and at the same time recursively apply the same operation on a and b? Something like a recursive operation but working from inside to outside
[21:56] <usr13> volty: which sould be /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[21:58] <syntroPi> Does anybody know where i would set the default mount options for gnome automount (usb -> fuse -> ntfs)?
[22:01] <DemoOn>  sh /home/arnis/.bash_alias /home/arnis/.bash_alias: 1: /home/arnis/.bash_alias: Syntax error: "(" unexpected when i try to http://pastebin.com/rSksnh1h
[22:03] <DemoOn> helo
[22:06] <lsi32> Hello everyone how can I convert my usb drive from linux filesystem to fat32 file system?
[22:07] <xangua> lsi32: use the Disk utility, type it on the dash
[22:08]  * syntroPi hates gnome3 more and more
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> syntroPi  it's meant to be beginner-friendly, if you're a more advanced user, you may want t try something else
[22:10] <lsi32> I used mkdosfs
[22:12] <lsi32> How can I do it using mkdosfs?
[22:13] <Dr_willis> lsi32,  use gparted and repartionit to be a vfat partion, instead of ext2/3/4 then reformat it.
[22:13] <Dr_willis> us what  i would do.
[22:13] <syntroPi> MonkeyDust, i used to like its configurability on version 2 but now it always feels like a fight to the restrictions the devs think are so nice to force on their users. dconf and such may not even help on some issues
[22:14] <Dr_willis> if its a 'ext3' partition you need to change its partition type i belive first. or things may get confused
[22:15] <lsi32> Could you please tell me how to do it....I am totally new to this.
[22:15] <Dr_willis> lsi32,  use the tool 'gparted' it has a nice gui. delete the partion on the usb. and remake it tobe the FS you want to use
[22:16] <lsi32> Ok thank you
[22:18] <ihelpsu> tonyt: yea i just did that, that's why you put it on teh web instead of this freenode thing
[22:19] <dhci> are there any settings perhaps with xset so that when I'm typing (usb keyboard, xwindows) the commands always go to where the cursor is hovering over
[22:26] <elisa87> I was trying to install   sudo apt-get install linux-libc-dev but I received this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5762976/
[22:27] <uw> looks like a problem
[22:29] <irreverant> Anyone know of any Polycom and Ubuntu support channels?
[22:29] <brontosaurusrex> elisa87, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-install-kernel-headers-package/
[22:29] <irreverant> Or how about a network channel on freenode?
[22:32] <random_guy> unable to install gparted using apt-get install....what to do?
[22:33] <Tex_Nick> irreverant:  #ubuntu-server ?
[22:34] <elisa87> I tried to install linux header for my kernel version but faced this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763002/
[22:34] <random_guy> unmet dependencies
[22:36] <sermatpy> hello, i'm having trouble with wi fi, it drops for no apparent reason, doesn't happen on windows
[22:36] <sermatpy> i'm using 12.04
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> sermatpy, are you using wifi proprietary driver? if you aren't, I recommend you switch to it
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> I remember using the open source wifi driver and I d/ced from wifi at least 1 a week
[22:38] <sermatpy> no, i´m using the stock driver from installation
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> switching to the proprietary one solved my problem.
[22:39] <meatmanek> I'm using the 10.04 PXE installer image to install onto servers here, and I need to include a newer version of the aacraid.ko kernel module. Is there a way to provide extra/newer drivers without rebuilding the initrd?
[22:39] <sermatpy> ok thanks i'll give it a try
[22:40] <meatmanek> like maybe a kernel command line option I could provide with a URL to a tarball/whatever of more drivers?
[22:40] <ivanelson> I have done a virtualbox with Ubuntu 8.10. There is still apt-get repositories for this version?
[22:40] <bekks> ivanelson: Most likely no.
[22:40] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | ivanelson
[22:41] <sermatpy> says there are no additional drivers for my wi fi driver
[22:41] <bazhang> ivanelson, since it's a vm though, just download the latest iso
[22:41] <sermatpy> *wi fi adapter
[22:42] <ivanelson> bazhang: I just want to download the postgres and tomcat via apt-get on ubuntu 8.10.
[22:42] <ivanelson> bekks: I just want to download the postgres and tomcat via apt-get on ubuntu 8.10.
[22:42] <bazhang> ivanelson, thats long long out of support
[22:43] <bekks> ivanelson: You're out of luck then.
[22:44] <ivanelson> bazhang: At these times we miss slackware! :)
[22:44] <bekks> ivanelson: We dont. :P
[22:45] <ivanelson> bekks: I also do not! :)
[22:46] <ivanelson> So, I run to find a tutorial. Install postgres8 and tomcat6 on hand.
[22:46] <DemoOn> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi What does it mean if there Package not aviable at gdb?
[22:48] <pgp-> Hi, guys i need some help, for some reason ubuntu marked my whole system as read only
[22:48] <pgp-> i manage to reboot and it repaired lots of it
[22:48] <pgp-> but i have 2 drives which are on ntfs are still marked as read only
[22:48] <pgp-> system drive is ok
[22:49] <pgp-> them 2 drives i use mainly for data storage , i can see them on samba on other drives and access too
[22:49] <pgp-> just cannot write to them
[22:49] <pgp-> any ideas?
[22:49] <daftykins> pgp-: can you pastebin /etc/fstab ?
[22:49] <pgp-> sure
[22:49] <pgp-> one sec
[22:50] <rasmo> hello folks
[22:51] <daftykins> pgp-: are you dual-booting with Windows also, or just using NTFS disks?
[22:51] <usr13> pgp-: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #And send resulting URL
[22:51] <DemoOn> http://pastebin.com/giwDrxzD is it fixable?
[22:52] <pgp-> daftykins:  just using ntfs disks
[22:52] <pgp-> no dual boot
[22:52] <daftykins> cool
[22:53] <pgp--> http://pastebin.com/qAb88yLH
[22:54] <pgp--> sdb1 and sdc1 are my nfts drives
[22:54] <pgp--> all they have is data
[22:54] <daftykins> pgp--: yeah it's being mounted 'ro' for read only. you're gonna need to edit that file and change 'ro' for 'rw' on both lines
[22:55] <usr13> pgp--: When you see  ro   it means read only
[22:55] <daftykins> usr13: i've got this
[22:55] <pgp--> yeah got it
[22:55] <pgp--> so the file is editable?
[22:55] <pgp--> sudo gkedit will do the job?
[22:55] <WireDemon> hi, was wondering if anyone could help me, im trying to install SDL2 on Ubuntu 13.04
[22:55] <daftykins> is that a graphical editor?
[22:55] <Ari-Yang> just gksudo drag and drop it in terminal and hit enter
[22:55] <daftykins> you want to use gksudo with graphical editors really
[22:55] <Ari-Yang> * gksudo geidt pathnamehere
[22:56] <pgp--> alright thanks guys :)
[22:56] <pgp--> lemme try
[22:56] <daftykins> seriously people - appreciate the input but have you ever heard of too many cooks spoiling the broth? jeez
[22:56] <usr13> daftykins: no
[22:56] <rasmo> i recently installed ubuntu 13.04 (beginner) and want to turn off bluetooth permanently, how do i get this done?
[22:56] <daftykins> my toes may never recover from all this trampling
[22:56] <daftykins> :P
[22:57] <daftykins> pgp--: let us know how it goes. easiest option will be to restart after editing + saving to test
[22:57] <pgp--> alright buddy :)
[22:58] <pgp--> gonna reboot
[22:59] <moses> how do i uninstall a program in ubuntu?
[22:59] <rti^> sudo apt-get purge [package name] i believe moses
[23:00] <Ari-Yang> or sudo aptitude purge package name here
[23:00] <FreakingTea> can anyone help me switch to chinese input on ubuntu 12.04? i've installed everything and it works sometimes on accident, but when i click on the icon at the top to switch the input language, it doesn't do anything.
[23:00] <moses> what if it was manually installed rti^ ?
[23:01] <rti^> i'm pretty new to ubuntu and i'm still trying to learn, but i don't think there would be a difference.. you might want to wait for a more experienced person to reply moses
[23:01] <rti^> sorry :\
[23:02] <th0r> moses: what do you mean by manually installed?
[23:02] <WireDemon> moses, if you used a make file, you might be able to do: make uninstall
[23:05] <moses> ok question
[23:06] <daftykins> moses: go for it
[23:06] <Kevin`> how can I tell grub2 that /boot is always on hd0?
[23:06] <moses> i messed up :/
[23:06] <moses> where does ubuntu keep all the programs
[23:06] <moses> ?
[23:07] <Kevin`> you want to add/remove programs as packages, not touch the files directly, unless you did something really strange
[23:07] <daftykins> moses: all over the place really. it's all about learning package management commands / programs to manage them
[23:07] <Snake2k> moses, usually /usr/bin (executable)
[23:07] <Snake2k> or /usr/local/bin
[23:08] <moses> usr/share/
[23:08] <moses> is where it put it
[23:08] <Snake2k> moses,  its files
[23:08] <moses> ?
[23:09] <th0r> moses: it would help if you just quit walzing around. Tell us where you downloaded the file from and what you did to install it.
[23:10] <moses> actually i just did sudo apt-get install openbabel
[23:11] <th0r> moses: did you try sudo apt-get remove openbabel?
[23:24] <pgp-> hi guys whenever i try to run a terminal i get error
[23:25] <daftykins> pgp-: back so soon! please describe
[23:25] <pgp-> lol indeed daftykins
[23:26] <pgp-> one sec i think i might have fixed it
[23:26] <pgp-> yup fixed!
[23:26] <daftykins> pgp-: what was it out of interest?
[23:27] <pgp-> i was fiddling with .bashrc
[23:27] <pgp-> which broke it
[23:27] <pgp-> now i got new query for ya :P
[23:28] <daftykins> ah ok :) sure what's up?
[23:28] <pgp-> i got this script
[23:28] <pgp-> http://pastebin.com/s1uE51X7
[23:29] <pgp-> in a /etc/init/xbmc.conf  themcontents.
[23:29] <pgp-> but i need to run this script automatically on boot up
[23:29] <pgp-> do i need to make it executable?
[23:30] <daftykins> pgp-: hrmm, not sure i'm afraid. XBMC wiki or the channels on freenode might help. yep it'd need to be executable i'd think
[23:30] <pgp-> ok let me try
[23:30] <pgp-> i thought so
[23:30] <pgp-> doesnt say about making it executable on wiki
[23:31] <WireDemon> Is it possible to install libsdl2 on ubuntu 13.04?
[23:31] <teslan> hi
[23:31] <teslan> someone now joomla_
[23:31] <teslan> ?
[23:31] <daftykins> teslan: ubuntu support only in here i'm afraid
[23:32] <teslan> someone know joomla?
[23:32] <teslan> someone know the channel for joomla?
[23:32] <eshietweb> hello
[23:32] <k1l> !alis | teslan
[23:33] <eshietweb> how can i delete a previous installation of ubuntu?
[23:34] <k1l> eshietweb: erase the partitions and choose another bootloader (if there is another OS on the disk)
[23:35] <veryhappy> someone here who can tell me how to compile or get a newer stable version of compiz to run in ubuntu 12.04.2 x84_64? thank you
[23:37] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb: you can't revert to a previous install (distro) ... however, to just remove the current version you would delete the partition
[23:38] <ryan-c> How the heck do I change apparmor configuration for a libvirt qemu/kvm guest? It says not to edit the file directly
[23:38] <eshietweb> k1l : i installed ubuntu 10.04 in my pc and after the release of 12.04 i installed it too. now i see 3 OS which is ubuntu 10.04, 12.04 and windows. and my hard disk is almost full. and i dont know why its dat ful.
[23:39] <k1l> eshietweb: so you can erase the partitions from 10.04 and give the space to the other partitions if you bootup a live cd (and have backups)
[23:40] <eshietweb> tex_nick  how can i do that?
[23:42] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  i didn't notice that kll had posted to you before i did ... i'm going to defer to kll ... kll is MUCH better than i am ;-)
[23:42] <eshietweb> okay ex thanks
[23:42] <k1l> Tex_Nick: ;p
[23:43] <Pricey> tsagu: success!
[23:43] <tsagu> Can anyone assist me? having problems removing Grub and Unbuntu. I deleted the partitions, but it gave me the Grub Rescue screen.
[23:43]  * Tex_Nick salutes kll ^5 man
[23:44] <k1l> tsagu: what other OS are on the system installed?
[23:44] <tsagu> Windows 8.
[23:44] <k1l> tsagu: so you need to reinstall the windows bootloader. grab a win cd and fixmbr
[23:44] <GeorgeTorwell> where can I get Ubuntu ISO hashes?
[23:44] <dragan_r> my software centre keeps crashing after 2 or 3 seckonds i tryed many options even reinstalled it but nothng
[23:44] <teslan7777> ji
[23:45] <xevil> Can anyone tell me why I can't get a Ubuntu 13.04 live DVD to boot on my desktop with Intel processor and Nvidia video card?  In fact I can't get a live CD or DVD past 11.10 to boot... what has changed between 11.10 and 12.04?  I've tried the special options of nomodeset to no avail...
[23:45] <k1l> tsagu: if you need help with that ask the ##windows guys in their channel
[23:45] <tsagu> I don't have a windows 8 disk. Was installed via microsofts site. I have a recovery file, but I can't find the burner for ubuntu to burn it onto disk
[23:46] <k1l> tsagu: i dont know if there is a standalone bootloader recovery from windows. just ask the ##windows guys
[23:46] <tsagu> ok so "/Join #Windows"?
[23:47] <k1l> "/join ##windows"
[23:47] <eshietweb> kil how cani join d windows
[23:48] <k1l> eshietweb: ?
[23:48] <GeorgeTorwell> where can I get Ubuntu ISO hashes?
[23:49] <k1l> GeorgeTorwell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[23:49] <GeorgeTorwell> thanks
[23:49] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  google "remove ubuntu" you'll find a lot of links for various situations ... is your box a dual boot with windows installed  ?
[23:50] <k1l> eshietweb: if you mean which program you need: gparted. that can erase and shove the partitions
[23:51] <eshietweb> tec nick yes
[23:51] <MrDyne> I just upgraded my Xubuntu rig from 3.5 to 3.8 and now it wont boot unless I use the 3.5 option in grub. How to I fix it so the upgrade works? When I boot 3.8 the top of screen becomes covered in random colored pixel static.
[23:53] <eshietweb> k1l how can i free up my hard disk?
[23:53] <eshietweb> in ubuntu
[23:53] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  ok then you could just remove the partition in windows using the drive administration tool ... or use an ubuntu live cd with gparted as kll sugested
[23:55] <k1l> eshietweb: i answered that already how you can erase the old ubuntu install
[23:56] <eshietweb> yes k1l
[23:57] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  see if this helps ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/133533/how-to-remove-ubuntu-and-put-windows-back-on
[23:58] <eshietweb> k1l i am having lots of files so i dont know how to remove some hidden files if there is
[23:58] <k1l> eshietweb: you told us you want to remove the complete 10.04
[23:59] <k1l> eshietweb: show a "df -h" in a pastebin please
[23:59] <eshietweb> yeah k1l